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masonfree party
30-12-2007, 11:24 AM
Please click on the link below to confirm your signature on the
petition at the bottom of this email.


http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Masonfreelaw/

The petition was created by Jim McCracken and reads:


'We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to The
Government should set up an independent (with overseas non
aligned legal academics) investigation into the fraudulent
criminal practices of the Freemasons within the UK Legal
establishment.'
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Freemasonry is an evil cult. I write this from personal experience. Most
Freemasons dont know what they are a part of. Their members infest UK
government at all levels. The UK establishment, police, judiciary etc. also
have an unhealthy number of Freemasons employed within it. There is however
a probable reason for this situation. The number of Freemasons in local
government is alarming. They help make decisionms on planning applications
etc. where there are often large amounts of gains.



I urge all people who are being abused by freemasons to contact "SECOND FAMILY".

Leave details on

0141 560 4743 or email voacs@mac.com

It's time for all the people out there, who have been victims, to have a place where they can be defended. We must meet and co-ordinate a defence plan, and a mode of going on the offensive. A good way to hit Freemasons now would be to question the validity of them being classed as a Charitable organization, losing this status would cost them millions. Also, i found out about the ninth degree entirely by accident , here on the internet.

Try and find out what the ninth degree means, and tell me this is a benevoilent organization.

Please sign this petition at downing street,

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freemasoncheck/#detail

Charities cannot be political, but we all know just how much masons strive to take political power surreptitiously. It's most prevalent in town halls where a large body of freemasons somehow become counsellors. They say they are non political but why are there masonic lodges in just about every county council building in the land ( who pays for these lodges? The public, or can freemasons prove they pay the rent etc. It would be ironic if the public paid for their lodge wouldn't it?) along with 2 masonic lodges in the houses of Parliament, if this isn't political , i don't know what is. Greenwich council threw out Masons because they absolutely ran the place, corruption was rife. They were replaced by asians who were believed to be non masonic. The Masonic answer to this was to make the Asians freemasons! I met one of the asians and geeze was he pissed off! All these people he had never met wanting huge favours from him)

Non political?

There was a military coup planned when Wilson was in power, each member of the coup were freemasons to a man, non political? A faction within MI5 brought Harold Wilson down with the approval of her majesty, these people only answered to Her Majesty who is, in turn, the grand patroness of world freemasonry.

Non political?

The World Wildlife trust is not allowed to be a charity because it's political but have they ever tried to take over council offices across the land to the point that all Counsellors were sacked for being corrupt Masons?

They are sexist, 50% of the population are not allowed to attend their meetings , namely females. Women don't count , do they? Geeze we even gave them the vote and how do they repay us? :-)

They are racist, although there are black lodges and white lodges across the world and the land, a mechanism is in place to prevent a black person from just turning up at a white lodge. This mechanism is solely in place to protect the racist white people in their lodges from being subjected to black men amongst them.

No one knows how their money is spent, trust me, even those fairly high up in freemasonry haven't got a clue how their charity money is spent.

I urge every good soul out there to ask questions about the right for a political, racist, sexist organization, unaccountable financially, to remain a charitable organization. I do know this, if i contacted the Charity Commision tomorrow, and told them i was going to set up exactly this kind of organization, they would reject my petition outright, and rightly so!

EVERYONE BAND TOGETHER AND CONTACT JOE STIRLING NOW, FORGET ABOUT YOUR OWN TALE OF WOE. FOCUS NOW AND WORK TOWARDS A SELF HELP GROUP. WE NEED PEOPLE IN THE PRESS TO HELP US, LAWYERS, ACCOUNTANTS, HONEST POLICEMEN, PEOPLE WHO WERE FORMERLY MASONS BUT DISCOVERED HOW CORRUPT THEY ARE. JOIN US AND AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WE WILL GET OUR VOICES HEARD. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION WHICH WILL HELP US , WE WILL GUARANTEE ANONYMITY.


The Queen is the "Grand Patroness" of world-wide freemasonry, this is the highest honour a female can be given. The secret services of our great nation only answer to her too, they do not answer to the ruling government.

Is it just me ,or does this seem to be an extraordinary conflict of interest? Likewise, there are many freemasons in the secret service but it's actually against the law and clearly a conflict of interest too, but who governs this seemingly serious breach of national security? The answer is NO ONE!.

Remarkably too, there are masonic lodges in the Houses of parliament, like they were somehow elected into power? What is a religious cult like Freemasonry doing there and who actually pays for it's upkeep the taxpayer? Similarly, there are lodges scattered across the land within county council buildings, are the public paying for this too?

If freemasons want power, why don't they run for government like everybody else who becomes a politician and let people decide if they want a mason to represent their constituency. They don't run for government because they would never get into power that way, so they get in "back door" and slowly remove the higher ranking politicians that are not Masons. Just look at who has been "shot down" in high ranking positions in the labour government recently. The ones who are not masons are slowly removed by some serious accusation or personal disclosures that are embarrassing to the party but you rarely see masons like Jack Straw given a bad time in the press.


If you are being abused by this organization, please email me but a "white hacker" has checked security on my email account and he has verified that all of my email is being intercepted. So write to your local newspaper too and your local MP, ask why there isn't an independent governmental unit to investigate such a claim. Go to the Police but just be vague about your complaint, don't let your enemy know what you have as proof against them either, just go to the police to get a beat number but know you are not going to get any help whatsoever there, just have it on record. The instant that someone does take you seriously, the powers that be higher up the chain of command will crush the investigation.

It wouldn't surprise me if some kind of cordon has been put on the site too, i get two complimentary emails every 6 weeks or so telling me to keep up the good work but i bet no one can see this out there. If i do find that the site is being interfered with, as i know that my emails are, then i am going to take the grand lodge to court UK.

HERE IS A SITE YOU CAN SEND A FAX DIRECTLY TO YOUR LOCAL MP, IT WILL ASK YOU TO ENTER YOUR POSTCODE AND THEY WILL CALCULATE THE REST, IT DOES WORK. THIS IS HOW I CONTACTED MINE.

http://www.writetothem.com/

I have finally got my web site back after over a year of not being able to ftp it. There is much for me to tell you, needless to say the intimidation has increased and i will update on this subject. For now, i want to urge all people who feel that their lives are being effected by a secret society to lobby their MP.

Remarkably, there is not place in the land to lodge an official compliant against Freemasons. I was told on more than one occasion to go to the police over this issue, it must be one of the biggest jokes of their secret society, the police ARE freemasonry. The labour government did try to do something about this, sending out a letter to every Police person in the land asking if they were Masons.

610 said that they were masons
49,431 said that they were not. (yeah , right)
and a whopping 101,042 did not respond.

Labour did nothing ( or could do nothing) with these findings, but i urge any member of the labour party to continue their ground breaking investigation, there are ways to obtain a list of every Mason in the land, just think about it, it's not hard, when masons make contributions to their own organization, it has a bank account like everyone else, it isn't hard to find out who makes these payments, then a list can be compiled and people in sensitive positions where freemasonry can clearly pervert justice should be asked to leave. I mean, how can a doctor or a judge be a Mason? It's just impossible to serve these two masters impartially.

Everyone knows about the pledges masons make to fellow masons, it's no secret and a brother will inevitably ask for help when they are in a courtroom, what does a judge do then? He cannot turn aside the call of another brother, he simply can't so where the hell is the concept of justice in all of this?

Judges cannot be Masons, it's really that simple. The same should apply to the Police force. Justice isn't something offered to a select few, it should be open to the whole population unencumbered by secret agendas. It's our society, should un-elected people decide our fate?

I have experienced direct interference when a mason contacted a policeman to come and give me a parking ticket, the policeman actually admitted to me that i wouldn't be getting the ticket if i hadn't upset someone. This sort of thing must happen all of the time, all over this land but the policeman is not acting on behalf of the public here, he has received his instructions from a fellow mason and is doing his bidding, he is not acting in an official capacity. Although he is doing work for a fellow mason it is the public who pay for this and perceive the policeman as doing official work, but of course, he is not. If you get stopped or believe that you are being intimidated by the police, then ask them if they are acting from an instruction he has been given from a police officer or is he working in an unofficial capacity as a mason abusing his position of trust and just acting out a grudge. Just as ethnic communities use the expression

"Is it because i am black?" People who are being abused by freemasons should use an equally exact expression to suggest that they are being discriminated against too.

" Have you stopped me officer in an official capacity or are you taking your orders from freemasons? If the later is so, i would like you to stop using the vehicle you were provided with and all equipment that came with it as the public paid for it and you are using their equipment in an unlawful manner, you are also abusing and misusing the trust society has placed in you and this should be made an offence ultimately leading to you losing your job"


Until recently, anyone above desk sergeant in the police force was a mason. I know there are women and ethnic groups, homosexuals and the like making inroads, but they will tow the line or be removed, it's as simple as that, if they don't they are forced out. Freemasons need to keep their power base, not dilute it so the few that are non masons in the police force are really just lapdogs, but i would love to be proved wrong. There was an article in the paper recently about endemic racism in the Police force, it's not racism as such, it's more like Freemasonry keeping it's hold over the justice system that's the real problem here because black people cannot be masons. At least in UK lodges.

I did actually talk to two investigating officers who came to my house and they were not Masons, they said not all detectives are masons, they are further up the ladder. They were investigating the claim that i was secretly filming personnel from a military base nearby. What i actually did was try to get evidence of tailgating as a whole bunch of cars come out of nowhere and place themselves inches away from my bumper, i mean they are doing 80-90 mph in a thirty mile an hour zone, but stop right behind me. This guy fitted the criteria, so for the first time in my life i decided to film the man and the number plate. I normally just take the number plate but as so many cars seem not to have registration plates, at least the ones that harass me, i decided to film the driver too.

Guess what? He WAS military and informed the police. I have been dogged by freemasons for 20 years + and the police have only ever given me 1 moment to express my views and the policeman talking to me gave me a masonic sign, so what a waste of time that was. I was never allowed to talk to detectives. This guy gets a whole bunch of police onto me to while i get shrugged off, and i am the one that has pictures of puncture marks on my skin that were filmed to be free of marks before i went out, but when i come home these marks are on exposed parts of my body, the wounds never heal either, i have photographs but they won't even look at them. Remarkable. I have a recording of a discrete signal being sent from my car which can only have come from my car proving there is a tracker onboard, but they won't listen to it. I have film of a colourless liquid which mysteriously covers the inside of my car window when i close it, it's colourless and evaporates in two/three seconds like an acetone, water never could evaporate like that, but they won't even look at the film. That night i had disrythmia of the heart and was rushed to hospital but there isn't a policeman out there who will even give me the time of day. Someone takes a picture of a guy speeding towards him like the usual intimidators on my tail and suddenly i am a spy!


So , we go to the police and tell them that we are being abused by freemasons, they come to our house, listen, and tell you that the case has been given a beat number, then they get in their car and have a good belly laugh, the case is closed.

Going to the police over Masonic harassment claims is a like asking a Christian to sleep in a den of Lions. I urge all of you to Lobby your MP demanding an Independent Governing body be set up to oversee our claims. In an open society, it is our right.

In some cases there will be a legal way to challenge their interference, for example, if you believe that the police are bugging you, or that your car has a GPS system installed without your consent, if the police, or military are directly harassing you, if your home is bugged and your mail interfered with, the police have to have a valid reason for any of this and it can be confirmed by the INVESTIGATORY POWERS TRIBUNAL

0207 035 3711

PO BOX 33220
LONDON
SW1H 9ZQ

Remember , they can only help if it's the police, armed forces or the secret service who are being seen to performing an illegal act intruding into your human rights of privacy. They cannot investigate a claim against freemasonry directly.

LIBERTY may be able to guide you on your rights too.

http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk

Amnesty International are far more interested in taking money and causes in other countries than helping people suffering in their own land, so don't waste your breath there. It was one of their agents who, after hearing my story ( i was allowed to talk into a telephone for nearly 10 minutes on what is a very complex story) wasn't even allowed to talk to someone in person. They told me to go to the police on this matter.

USELESS

Don't bother with the press either, whether you believe me or not, look at the facts, you never see negative press about them, it's not paranoia, just look at the facts 800000 masons in the UK and not a single one of them does anything wrong? There isn't a family unit in the land who hasn't had one of it's members experiencing some form of negative manipulation by Freemasons, from "jobs for the boys" at one end to what's happening to me at the other end of the scale.

WHY SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS POWER?

I want to thank all the people who have contacted me , some of their stories are just horrendous but there is no place for their claims to be heard. They are hounded just as i am hounded but as long as we have no place to have our stories verified, freemasons can hound us just as much as they like, knowing that there are no repercussions for them. Knowing that the justice system is owned completely by them.

As long as they can keep their secrets secret, they will always have their cowardly victories. Someone told me that poisoning people is the cowards way of revenge, has anyone seen those masonic rings with hidden compartments? They are poison rings, even 5 years ago they were on sale on ebay! Cowards, that's a very good way to describe this kind of harassment. Bullying cowards, what a dreadful combination.

THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO, WITHOUT FEAR OF REPERCUSSIONS

Is it right that they should have a telephone number that they phone when they have committed a minor crime, and as long as the legal process hasn't gone to court, have that crime nullified? You see some people driving at speed through speed cameras, they know they are never going to be fined for it, they just make one quick telephone call.

One law for them and one law for us?

Since last having access to this site, they have stepped up their hatred campaign, i live fairly close to a military base and it's the military Freemasons who have passed their sentence over me all those years ago. If i go shopping, men dressed in army gear follow me in ( i have a gps (tracking) system in my car, they know exactly where i am 24/7. Please don't say "get another vehicle", it takes 2 seconds to install a temporary tracker, then, when they have more time available, say you park overnight at a hotel, embed the device in a more permanent part of the car.

Micro Alert 2 is a very thorough detector, which can have the sensitivity adjusted and you will have to do for the latest generation of sophisticated tracking devices. It worked when others failed. www.cpc.co.uk used to sell it if you are in need. I found a very discreet signal was being sent from my car every 10 mins or so lasting significantly less than a second.

Another good general bug hunter can be found here.

www.spies.org.uk/counter_surv_equip.html

I will digress here for a second as this is useful information. If you feel as though your house is being bugged, have a conversation with a friend in the room you feel might be bugged. Make the conversation pure fiction, but make it something irresistible to your enemy, something humiliating and something you desperately want to keep secret. It normally takes a couple of weeks to filter back to you but it will happen if you are bugged, be imaginative, you will know how to "dangle the carrot".

In my case i described myself as a Martyr and i knew that would really piss them off, true enough it came right back to me.

Wait for it to come back at you and you will know that you are bugged. Also, buy a "Frequency Counter" you can pick one up at Maplins, if you are being bugged, this will pick up a signal. You should think in terms of the bug feeding from your electrical supply so that's the place to point the counter, any electrical point. If someone is carrying a transmitting bug ( less likely), something like "Spyhunter" will pick this up, it's only £15 ish at Maplins. It's the size of a key fob so you can slip it into your pocket, you may find this very useful too.

So they would follow me in a very obvious way ( there are ways of tracking people without drawing attention to them, but this wasn't their aim) one MILITARY guy would gather another over to him and point directly at me, then the other would almost run out of the store, constantly looking back at me. To compound the farce, he would often wear a small badge on his lapel of two rifles which i later discovered was the indication of a marksman. Nothing would happen of course, the whole event was designed to unnerve me.

" I wonder what is going to happen to me when i go out of the store into the dark car park?"

INTIMIDATION IS HOW THEY WORK

Ramming you off the road too is a favourite occupation of theirs. Tailgating their favourite though, this happens ( until very recently) 5 or 6 times a day culminating one time in a fellow following me twice at high speed around a roundabout in Maidstone Kent. He was no further than 3 feet away from my bumper the whole time and i was really going some. Coincidentally, a van of policeman watched the whole thing, they found it most amusing, i guess i would have too but for the fact that i was clearly speeding as was my pursuer and they did nothing.

In fact, proximity seems to be an issue of late. Proximity is essential in fact, which sort of implies it's necessary for something, i do know that acoustic weapons have been developed which have a range of 50 m or so and emit frequencies which will cause harm, one of them works at 7Hz which disrupts the natural rhythm of the heart. It might explain why my heart burns after i have been out for a while ( could be psychosomatic ) but only while i have been out.

It's all intimidation designed to make me go telling this ridiculous string of events to anyone who will listen to the story and undermine me. They hit people in different ways, they have done a psychological profile of me and decided that the best way to deal with me is to alter my mental health. You do see people who are victims of their evil in the press, Michael Barrymore being a perfect example ( i will elaborate on this later ) . Does anyone remember when the television show "Coronation Street" started to mock Masons? Remember what happened to the stars involved in the mockery? They attack in the way they think will be most effective and because no one thinks in terms of a secret agenda, they just put the negative events happening in their lives down to bad luck.

Because i have gained some publicity, and still hold some credibility too, people are watching out for my safety now. Masons have made it very clear that they are going to get rid of me, but they have to be imaginative in just how to bump me off without the eyes of the world bearing down on them. It's no coincidence that wherever i go, when i return to the car, there is a van parked within 15 metres of me even in a vast car park that is almost empty. It will drive off just as soon as i do even if i sit in the car for half an hour. It's just intimidation but it could be worse.

Throughout history, freemasons have been most imaginative over bringing about a persons death. From poison rings, to arsenic, then later the muscle relaxant used in pre ops ( an overdose relaxes the heart too, so you have a heart attack) it leaves no trace in the body. Later still Helica Bacter was used to cause rupturing stomach ulcers but it didn't work with everyone. So, they had to come up with the perfect murder weapon, one that would leave the murderers virtually blameless, it was ingenious.

I was trying to figure out why so many vans had to be near me ( always parked outside my house for example down a small close) and then it dawned on me. Portable X-ray machines or acoustic weapons might be involved. I was told by an X-ray specialist, that just 6 roentgens has been exposed to me when i had an X-ray on my leg some years back. Portable X-ray machines can be bundled into the back of a Van, and 6 roentgens shots be applied 5-8 times a day, these harmless exposures would soon build up, get that figure repeatedly over a period of 6-8 weeks and you are on your way out. If ten people did this, even if they were caught would they all go to jail? By inducing cancer in their victim, it's a perfect murder. There will be proof in my bloodstream and DNA however, in a thorough autopsy. My claim that a smaller version of the Vehicle-Mounted Active Denial (VMAD) system, the VMAD is a giant version of your microwave oven, without the safety box surrounding it. It makes one's skin only light bulb hot, enough to force a person to run but not enough to cook him.
Smaller versions of V.M.A.D technology have also been used on me in the past,

It's the perfect murder. (Carry a phone with you at all times as X-ray will effect mobile phones or carry 35 mm film and see if it's been damaged when you have it developed, only use the film when you have witnesses a body of vans park up near you.). My claim is that my whereabouts in the natural course of a day has become the focal point of military exercises. Time after time i find people taking pictures of me with their phone camera, i don't think that the pictures are because of my good looks and superstar status ( all these people have short or no hair, are really fit and around the same age, they are seemingly not at work in the week but they also have that forces walk, do you know the one i am talking about a regimented gait? They have got that look in their eyes too, the one where they are prepared to kill. The walk has been drilled into them, and they find it hard to disguise. ) It's how they clinch their fist in exaltation and immediately walk away afterwards which suggest that the mission is accomplished. I think the photo is proof that they have completed their mission and would be like the shot in a real war scenario.

If these were serious manoeuvres though, i would have been dead years back. I have evidence to back up my claims of course, because this really does look like the ranting of a loony from where i am sitting and i am sure it must be the same for you. I mistakenly said in a private conversation in my house that i would drive all over the place and create red -herrings because i knew it would tie up their time and more importantly cost them money. They retaliated immediately after this conversation by making it very unpleasant for me to go anywhere. After a while you are forced to stay at home, driving is naturally an unpleasant experience too, because although you realize it's probably a bit of fun and games for them, ramming you off the road could have dire consequences.


I KEEP FINDING STRANGE SUBSTANCES DAUBED ON THE DOOR HANDLES OF MY CAR, WHEN I MAKE CONTACT WITH THE CHEMICAL , IT BURNS MY HAND AND FIVE MINUTES OR SO LATER, I GET RINGING IN MY EAR. I ALSO HAVE STRANGE ENCOUNTERS WHILST DRIVING MY VEHICLE WHERE AN OVERTAKING VEHICLE WINDOW OPENS AND SOME "FINE MIST " EMERGES FROM IT POINTED TOWARDS ME AND SPEEDS OFF AT TWICE THE SPEED LIMIT. I CHASED HIM BUT GAVE UP, MY JAG CAN REALLY GO BUT THESE SPEEDS WERE JUST PLAIN CRAZY.



THIS IS THE BOOT. THE STREAKS WERE CAUSED BY THE CAR TRAVELLING BUT THERE IS CLEARLY A GRAPHIC THERE, CAN ANYONE MAKE ANY SENSE OF IT?
This is just one of many pictures i have of substances that appear just above door handles which trickles down over the handle with gravity and wind. I recently fitted a fireplace in Tonbridge wells and a person who i have seen at lodge meetings suddenly appeared there, he was unaware of my presence as he ushered to another man, he tugged at an imaginary cable from above his head and allowed his head to lop to one side like a hanged man the hanged man. I have seen this gesture so many times over the last 2 decades. My lodge was some 20 miles from there and i was down an obscure country lane. He definitely has something to do with this, once you have seen this fellow you could never forget him, he is probably the ugliest man on the planet.


I AM NOT ATTACKING THE GOOD MASON HERE, THE ONE WHO FINDS WHAT FOLLOWS AS UNACCEPTABLE AS I DO. I AM ATTACKING THE ENDEMIC WAY THAT FREEMASONRY ALLOCATES FUNDS TO AND SANCTIONS THE DESTRUCTION OF A PERSONS LIFE.

Recently, Tony Blair's' government, boldly made efforts to ban secret societies, they insisted that people in power were to declare their interest in freemasonry, as its membership may conflict with the fair passage of justice etc. The Freemasons calculated reply was that they are not a secret society, but a society that has secrets.
Remarkably, this statement was enough to appease the government, as little or nothing has been done to clarify their reply.

“We are not a secret society, but are a society which has secrets”

What does that mean exactly?
Is it just me, or should someone had asked just exactly what they meant by this?

“ Oh they just have a few secrets, so that's okay then"

They have told us that they are not a secret society but surely, a society that declares that it has "some secrets", IS a secret society! In my opinion, the only reason this society has secrets is because if the public found out what what those secrets were, they would be horrified by them. This why i am putting this page together, not out of spite or vindictiveness after finding out what monstrous games they have been playing in my life, but to get to the bottom of this for once and for all.

WHAT SHOULD FREEMASONRY BE ALLOWED TO KEEP SECRET?


What is the "all seeing eye" doing in the logo of the MI5? Just how much does freemasonry influence us? I thought it was against the law for people in the secret service to be Freemasons, but no one actually gives a damn. I recently visited MI5's website where they list a whole bunch of "Urban Myths" about their organization. They categorically deny that they had nothing to do with Harold Wilson's demise and they are right, they didn't. Freemasons in MI5 however are guilty as charged, they helped their old buddy Dennis Thatcher ( a very high ranking Freemason ) , get just the right information to ruin him, it wasn't MI5 per say, just members of the secret service obeying their other master.



Taken from the front of a book on Freemasonry

The currency of the United States of America

With a very high percentage of masons occupying a position of trust and power, ( Police ,Politicians, judges, lawyers, doctors etc.) its essential that we find out if these secrets have a detrimental effect on a public that relies on their impartiality to administer justice, whilst acting on their behalf.

I WAS A MASON, DUPED INTO JOINING.

What better way is there to keep a close reign on your enemy than to get them to join freely, the very same organization that is plotting his downfall?

KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE TO YOUR CHEST BUT KEEP YOUR ENEMIES EVEN CLOSER STILL.

I was a mason, invited into freemasonry solely to be subjected to a darker side of Freemasonry, i was invited in to actively bring about detrimental influences for the remaining period of my life, they don't kill you outright, what's the fun in that? Instead they embark on a program that will turn your life into an enduring hell, striping you of your good standing, your family and friends, your self respect, your wealth, health and happiness.

Out of respect to good Masons, of which there is a vast majority, i will never divulge any of their ceremonies and secrets learned whilst a freemason. What follows was learnt after or before i joined.

They have given me a special name, i am known as an "O" mason. Masons are often described as "On the Square" so an "O" is as opposite a shape to a square as you could possibly imagine.

I AM AN "O" MASON

It has since come to me that the O is really a Zero and that i am a Zero degree mason, you may have heard that there are up to 33 degrees well Zero degree is a special degree reserved for people like me.

The irony is, that a circle is made up of an infinite amount of tangents at 90 degrees to it's centre, i hope the this fact draws a chuckle from the more enlightened. I am not a real mason and in that sense, not bound by any pledge i made under these ceremonies, but i will respect their ceremonial secrets regardless.
The most significant proof that i possess concerning myself being different from true masons, is that Masons cannot harm each other, pretty obvious really, but it is very important to a mason ).
Without doubt, they have harmed me.
The only reasonable conclusion i can draw from this is that i am not a true Mason, and thus not bound by their oath.

So let's look at some of their darker secrets, the ones that infringe on human rights, actively discriminate against a colour or creed ( just how many black masons are there exactly in the UK?), pervert the course of justice and actively “cover up” travesties of justice, or cause physical and mental harm to the trusting subjects that live in our society. Shouldn't we be entitled to know of these secrets?
If it was just "Jobs for the boys", or phone numbers masons can ring to have their smaller prosecutions wiped from the records, then i wouldn't be making this page. Everybody knows that masons get special treatment and we just accept that don't we?

There are many people in this country , including myself, who are being disadvantaged by this society, and we do not have a voice on the news, or in the papers. There are an estimated 800000 masons in the UK, but judging by the negative press they never get, we can assume that the press are largely controlled by them, this isn't an unreasonable conclusion to make as the only other assumption is that there are 800000 people out there who have never committed any crime or foul deed.
I think not, 'tis human nature to stray from the "path of righteousness" from time to time, yet "four fifths" of a million people appear to be without sin.

The Pope is Jewish!

Here is an observation however, and it's pro Mason. The system is geared up for a fellow mason to help another and a lot of good comes out of that, the organization has tentacles that reach into every part of society and this can be put to good use. Most masons operate like this.

FOR THE GOOD

But this same system can be abused, bringing about huge changes in a persons life until it can be snuffed out in a very negative way, and this is the secret i want you to know about. You see they don't kill someone, they just make their remaining time on the planet hell.

I will argue their case further to the point where maybe someone has managed to escape normal justice by a technicality or what have you, let's say a Child molester has repeatedly escaped natural justice, maybe there should be something in place to bring about a secret justice.

A star chamber of sorts.
Rightly or wrongly, maybe society should have something like this in place.
But on a personal level now, and it's me who's being destroyed here, i know in my heart that i have committed no crime that could ever be taken to a court of law, i haven't even hit someone in anger for over 25 years. Yet i know they have passed sentence over me as they pass sentence over others and then they start their evil works, i know two people who are employed by freemasonry to do just this.

The process that follows is harrowing and the fate of the person the sentence has been passed on , predictable. You see the person who has had the sentence passed upon him is classed as a "Hanged Man" and the whole idea of the evil that follows is to result in that person reaching such a low point in his life that he eventually considers suicide. For him to take his own life is the ultimate aim. Most actions they take upon you are designed to result in you ending up with a prison sentence, for once they have you in there, they will destroy you making your life so desperate that many a good man has been found hung in prison.
I am writing this in an effort to warn others going through the very same formulated methods of demise.

I propose that the government set up a committee to look into their operation, for one and all, including masons to tell you their stories and then let the people decide whether this society has the right to harbour such despicable secrets.
Let the people come forth and tell you their story, like I wish to tell you mine, but let it be a completely open debate so that Masons themselves have their views expressed. You see, an extremely high percentage of Freemasons have no awareness of their own societies darkest secrets and if they did, being genuinely good people, would want these practices to end..
Nobody would seriously object to ceremonies being kept private provided they fall within the law of our land. No one would object to this this private moment which defines the identity of a group of people. It's their "other secrets" which they must not be allowed to keep secret.

Please give us a voice, there are many people suffering at their hands, please believe me, everyone knows about “Jobs for the Boys”, it doesn't take a big stretch of the imagination to tell you that sometimes ensuring the success of a Mason, involves cruel trickery at someone else's expense. Taken a stage further, some people are permanently disadvantaged and i am just one of many.

We must stop being their puppets and refuse to tolerate these kinds of secrets. As long as they are not accountable for their actions, they will continue their dark, secret works.
Other than the ceremony itself, why does a society have to have any secrets at all?
Its because the secrets are despicable and have to be kept secret for freemasonry to be tolerated in our society.

As a passing thought, you can still buy Masonic poison rings on Ebay.co.uk, what's that all about? It is the nature of man to utilize the technology of the day, and a secret society to embrace that technology. They are using it in every aspect of my life and others too, who have also fallen under their dark shadow.


I AM ACCUSING THEM OF UNLAWFULLY PASSING SENTENCE OVER PEOPLE
THEN EXECUTING THAT SENTENCE USING THEIR OWN PEOPLE FROM WITHIN AND PEOPLE DRAWN FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT ( ARMY, NAVY, BRITISH INTELLIGENCE ETC.) AND THE JUDICIARY AND PAID FOR BY TAX PAYERS AND NOT FREEMASONRY. IN EFFECT GETTING THE TAXPAYER TO FINANCE THEIR GRUDGES. THEY TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE DAY TO BRING ABOUT A PERSONS DEMISE. IF YOU WISH TO KNOW HOW THEY ACCOMPLISH THIS, I WILL GLADLY PROVIDE YOU WITH THEIR METHOD, WHICH IS QUANTIFIABLE.

METHOD
PASS SENTENCE
For reasons only known to themselves once they pass sentence on you they notify you of their sentence.
In my case i received a hand delivered booklet with the dramatic headline
THE MYSTERIOUS EXAMINER
Under this was a picture of a hanged man, black hood over his head, bare chest, hands tied behind his back and a noose around his neck.
HANGED MAN
Was written in huge writing under the picture, the booklet was given short thrift my me until i noticed that the following pages, made little sense and all the adverts adorning the borders of the publication had no addresses or telephone numbers. I was the only person in the street to receive the publication. I believe this was their way of letting me know that they had passed judgement on me but i suspect that they present this declaration differently, directed at an interest the victim has, in this way ensuring a reading of the sentence.

KNOW YOUR ENEMY
They embark on a fact finding mission, a whole series of people around me asked where "my local pub" was and they do this with others because this is the perfect place to learn about your enemy. Find out his habits, are their any rumours or weaknesses they can find about him? Find out who his closest friends are, does he have gambling habits, adultery, does he drink too much?
Police records are checked to see if he has some dark secret they can work on
Doctors files, find more weaknesses.
Tax records checked for irregularities, has he boasted to his friends that he regularly takes cash as income and doesn't declare it?
Does he drink and drive?
With all information absorbed, a profile is developed and a plan of attack created.
Destabilize his life.
Find out where he works and if his boss is a mason, get him the sack. If not, if he does have a dark secret spread rumours, keep spreading the rumours amongst his friends too, nasty rumours will get anyone the sack in time. Talk candidly about one of his close friends and tell him that he told you about the rumour (whatever it is), he will likely say something negative about his friend, duly report that back to his friend and break those friendships, it will take time but heck, you have all the time in the world.
If he drinks too much and drives place a police car on his journey home.
Get him into fights at the pub and spread rumours, he is trouble. This is again done though off duty policemen.
Slip things into his drink, certain bacteria will send his stomach into turmoil. This can be most unpleasant for the people around him.
Place a GPS ( tracking device) system in his car like the police did with me, you know where he is 24/7 then. If he parks on a yellow line, give him a ticket, if he's having an affair, expose it to his wife. If he has a gambling habit encourage him to gamble more and more.
THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO TAKE HIS FRIENDS, MONEY, WOMAN AND HAPPINESS AWAY FROM HIM.
It's less likely these days, but i used to pay taxes, council tax, penalties etc. by cheque, these cheques always disappeared, your files will disappear too, i was dragged into court once because they had lost my tax file!
A good indicator if there is any interference in your life is when you do get a parking ticket, did the police come around at night and pick up the fine personally like they did with me?
REMEMBER ME JOHN? JOHN ALWAYS PICKED UP THE FINE MONEY EVEN WHEN WE MOVED 10 MILES FROM OUR PREVIOUS HOME. THE WORST PART OF IT WAS I ACTUALLY LIKED THIS GUY & WAS GENUINELY CONCERNED WHEN I FOUND OUT HE WAS ILL, OH THE HYPOCRISY OF IT ALL!

THE POLICE
I have mentioned them above but it's time to mention them proper, until recently it was impossible to be anything above a Sergeant in the police force unless you were a mason. The police are the masons "lackeys" and will perform the masons bidding with total dedication. It isn't hard to get a cop to hate you, just put child molester on their records and even a non mason will give you some seriously nasty treatment.
You will find that you are stopped if you drink, that you are stopped if you speed ( the latest car trackers tell you what speed the vehicle is doing as you travel) so if you have got your foot down somewhere up the road expect a police car to be waiting for you. You will also be harassed, the first time i declared that i was going to the press over masonic treatment in my life ( a private conversation in my car ) within five minutes a police car coming in the opposite direction and at speed drove straight towards me, the driver putting his fingers to his mouth mocking that he was very scarred, i had to swerve away.

I don't know why they do it, but others in the same predicament get the very same treatment, but you'll find an awful lot of police cars speeding by with their sirens only on the section of the road where you are. I think it's intimidation, and a warning that they can take you whenever they like. Besides , if you do tell people this, you are David Icke.

YOUR VEHICLE

If you rely on this for your living, expect it to become unreliable, i have had 5 engines seize on me ( grinding paste in the oil)
Your heater will always fail in winter, and the alternator invariably be replaced at an alarming rate. If the mechanic is a mason, whenever your car is repaired, expect something else to go wrong in a week or two. They will repair the problem, but create another at the same time, draining you of your finances.
I know this part is going to look like it's away with the fairies but i found these articles in my workplace or in my car in a way far beyond the laws of probability so i think they are significant.

I FOUND AN ACORN ( three times and i don't live in the country, the acorn is a strongly masonic symbol) AND A PEG INSIDE MY CAR AND BY THE FRONT RIGHT-HAND HEADLIGHT ON THREE SEPARATE VEHICLES, LOOK IN YOURS AND SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING. THE PEG THEME OFTEN SURFACES, (WHEN MY CAR WAS SCRATCHED UP RECENTLY, IT WAS IN THE SHAPE OF A GRIP LIKE PEG, I THINK THIS WAS A WARNING TO OTHER MASONS) AS DOES A BLACK BALL, YOU MAY FIND MANY SUCH BALLS FORMED IMPROMPTU ALONG WITH A NOOSE FASHIONED FROM MATERIALS YOU WOULD FIND NATURALLY AROUND YOUR WORKPLACE ( NOOSE IS ONLY IF YOU ARE A HANGED MAN) . WHILST I WORKED UP AT THE TEMPLE BAR, EVERY TIME I RETURNED TO MY VEHICLE THERE WAS ALWAYS A BLACK BALL AND NOOSE LEFT BY THE DRIVERS CAR DOOR.
By letting down a tyre ( same one every week or so) you will think you have a slow puncture, you will buy 5 or 6 new tyres a year when your old one was perfectly fine.

IF YOU SUSPECT ANY OF THIS GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE LET ME KNOW

The overall aim though is to get you into prison, because once they have got you there, they have complete control over you and that is where you will lose your soul and all hope. The hope is that you take the opportunity they give you, and that is to hang yourself as living in this place will become a living hell.
HENCE THE SENTENCE "THE HANGED MAN" They don't kill you, YOU DO, you take your own life.

JOIN THE MASONS

Someone's going to try real hard to get you to join, because once you are in, they have an amazing amount of control over you.
Anyway, these are some of the methods adopted, but this is how it is done.
If you can't beat 'em , join 'em!
This will be their argument when confronting them. I want to keep specific events off of this page at the moment, because i intend to take action against them in the european courts. If anyone can help on this matter please email me. I understand that the Italian prime minister said recently that the european courts are run by Masons and Child Molesters, it's a desperately poor world where someone is forced to appeal to a child molester for justice, for i will get nothing from the masons!

Thanks
I URGE ALL GOOD MEAN AND TRUE, TO QUESTION THE ETHICS OF THEIR OWN ORGANIZATION. IF YOU FEEL THAT THE WHOLESALE DESTRUCTION OF A PERSON'S LIFE IS FAIR THEN BY ALL MEANS, REMAIN A MASON. IF YOU FEEL IT'S NOT RIGHT AND OR NECESSARY, THEN SAY SO OPENLY IN LODGE.

I seemingly have no rights in my own country, all reasonable avenues of free movement have been taken from me. Here is an extract from the Magna Carta, it was written in the 13th Century.

No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land.

I do not have these rights, they have been stripped from me by people who do not have a legal right to do so. Is there one person out there with enough clout to realize that there are people who are being abused by freemasons, but have no protection in society from their actions? Is there one person in this land who can bring about change?
Tony Blair, a plead from the heart. I have been told that you are a Mason now, i know that your weren't when you came to power. If you are one, they stand for everything you were against.

No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land.

I repeat it because i am filled with disbelief, those words were guarantees to people who walked the earth almost a thousand years ago, with the world more focussed than ever on human rights for the whole of mankind, i am not offered the rights given to people who had little knowledge of real justice.

I am a prisoner in my own home, my life has been taken away from me, i may as well be dead for the protection society gives me. I only want the same rights you relied on in getting to office in the first place, the law of the land which has been the cornerstone of our great country for almost a thousands years. Give me the rights that were offered to our people in 1215, let us have an independent investigative body, funded by the government with the same powers that the "untouchables" had in America. Give them power to act, and give the people their rights again. There are thousands of people who are going through the same demoralizing process that i am being subjected too. Indeed Mendleson, your friend, is one of them.


Stan Cumans


If you have a story where you believe Masons have had a negative influence on you or someone you know, we would love to hear from you. If you do not receive a reply from me, it's because they are up to their old tricks again. Please tell everyone about this site, try and get the press interested, copy and paste anything on your site. It's a human rights issue of a very great magnitude. They have warned me, that my presence on this planet is no longer required, so please spread the word, let's force a debate. Copy this page and spread it to the world. I swear by all that is holy, that their sentence on me is not just.

"YOU CAN BLOW OUT A CANDLE, BUT YOUR CAN'T BLOW OUT A FIRE"
Extract from a song by Peter Gabriel "Biko"
On my own, i'm not going to get very far, but if there are people out there who are prepared to join me in my fight against these completely evil people, then we will get our voices heard.
"A trouble shared is a trouble doubled...." Frank Spencer ( some mothers do 'ave 'em)
I think i know what he means.

Footnote
Over the last 2 years or so, i have had all manner of people contact me. To show you the kind of person a Mason is, all i ever got from them were threats, there was not a single mason prepared to ask if there was any truth behind my claim or prepared to investigate it, that says everything about them.

GUILTY

This page is getting longer and longer but i have been asked for advice on what to look for if you are being tracked in your car.

I'll keep this as brief as possible. As you are being tracked by GPS they can really sit back and keep a good distance from you, if this is the case then there is a very small chance that you will catch the perpetrators, except you may notice a car parked in your street regularly that you might see later when you park. One thing to look for is if you park up he may want to see what you are doing so take a micro cassette recorder and record all reg numbers over a period of time and see if some keep coming up again and again, also go shopping and jump out of your car quickly and go to an unexpected place and tuck yourself away (effectively hide but be able to have a good field of vision, duck into a store with glass windows for example). Keep an eye out for anyone who appears to do a general search and not buy anything, then note which car he returns to. You have to bring the odds into your favour so you have to make them think that close surveillance is required. You will have to be imaginative how you do this but try to get them to tail you closely and that's when they really give themselves away.

When close tailing occurs you will notice a car overtake you but then slow down so you overtake, he will only do this on parts of the road where you can't suddenly turn off like motorways. When they have to close tail you, signal right but go left and if they do the same it's a good chance they are following you. Don't drive predictably, if you are on a motorway ( and it's safe to do so) drive in the outside lane and suddenly turn off cutting across the three lanes and see if anyone does the same. If they do, it's a good indicator. The best one though is to take a stupid way out of town. You know the quickest way because that's the route most people take, so go the opposite of sensible and drive in an illogical way if you intend to go somewhere. If someone follows you and actually takes the stupid route with you. They are definitely worth checking out.

When you do park up, see who parks up with you and who drives off with you too ( my experience they want to park next to you i guess it gives them proximity validation but it also means they can fiddle with your car if they need to when you walk off. This only works if you have tricked them into close surveillance).

This is a useful piece of information, for general surveillance and something that good surveillance people do is take advantage of their Satellite route finders ( that's how they follow you) , they will look to see if your parked destination has to pass through a bottleneck (some lenght of the road you have to pass through returning from your parking spot. There might just be one road leading to a whole area, that sort of thing.) As they know you have to pass that piece of the road, they will park up there. So just look for someone who will not make eye contact with you there. A good trick here is if you have a suspicion about someone following you, if it's possible, try and drive one side of him and watch his body language. He will try to keep faced away from you. Then drive to the other side of him (most people will wonder what the fuss is all about and make eye contact with you) if he turns away again however, he will be wanting to hide his identity for a reason take his number and see if he turns up again. There seems to be a kind of Surveillance kit that most of them use and the bluetooth appliance has been adopted recently, if he's wearing that too, it all suggests that he may be following you. If you do suspect he is, then do not draw any attention to it, he may be pulled off your job if his cover is compromised. Make notes and wait for him to turn up again. In my experience , the cover seems to rotate over a period of time like 3 months. Be patient and never confrontational, just get the evidence on film if possible. Ebay sells an all purpose voice recorder, digital camera, movie camera and it fits comfortably in the palm of your hand and sits in your pocket without discomfort. It's great for proof. The battery will last about 40 mins so should cover most uses. Carry battery spares and practice recording so you know the machine inside out. The one time you get the proof you need could be foiled by pressing the wrong button.




cumans@murderingmasons.co.uk

masonfree party
30-12-2007, 11:58 AM
can you put this petition in 'sticky' catagory please

sentinal
30-12-2007, 03:39 PM
I would most definitely sign this if I were a UK citizen. Good luck with it!

salina
30-12-2007, 03:54 PM
you say they are a racist organization i have to stress u r very very wrong on that accusation

danucrom
30-12-2007, 04:01 PM
you say they are a racist organization i have to stress u r very very wrong on that accusation

Please elaborate.

salina
30-12-2007, 04:07 PM
ok my ex fiance is black and is one btw nice pic of kate bush

danielg
30-12-2007, 04:12 PM
They are a racist group. Just because they alow a few non-whites in doesn't alter this fact. The Royals, and their Darwinist lackies are all masons and all support Darwinist philosophy, which is a raist ideology.

Look at Albert Pike, who wrote Jock Rites Morals and Dogma, he created the KKK.

I know masons who are openly racist, and admit it is a white protestant (so they think!) organisation.

salina
30-12-2007, 04:15 PM
there are also non masons who r openly racist so that argument doesn't really stand up

danucrom
30-12-2007, 04:29 PM
ok my ex fiance is black and is one btw nice pic of kate bush

Thanks....Ok, so he is black and he is a mason, you should ask him how many other black masons are in his lodge, not very many I would bet.. They leave black members join the blue lodge to give a superficial image of equality and fairness to the public,the Blue Lodge is jokeshop freemasonry, nothing more than a public front.
Not very many black masons get to be any higher than fellowcraft in western countries, there are higher up black masons such as Trevor McDonald but they are very few and far between.

salina
30-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Thanks....Ok, so he is black and he is a mason, you should ask him how many other black masons are in his lodge, not very many I would bet.. They leave black members join the blue lodge to give a superficial image of equality and fairness to the public,the Blue Lodge is jokeshop freemasonry, nothing more than a public front.
Not very many black masons get to be any higher than fellowcraft in western countries, there are higher up black masons such as Trevor McDonald but they are very few and far between.

i would love to get into this with you and reveal a few nice titbits, unfortunately loyalty prevents me doin so, but the argument may stand in England, but across the pond i am afraid this is not the case so i will agree to say we are both partially correct (love your class of singer danucrom, she is deffo in my top3 female vocalists)

salina
30-12-2007, 04:34 PM
lol danucrom last thing i think he will do is talk to me i was getting hitched in 2 days time

malvern
30-12-2007, 05:32 PM
racist organization

they hate anyone who is not a member... and see them as low live..easy game..... any group that has to meet behind closed doors ... has something wrong going on and the mason are no different to all the other silly coward groups...... and should be stopped



freedom belongs to the grandchildren, we are just the caretakers :)

bennett211085
30-12-2007, 05:42 PM
they hate anyone who is not a member... and see them as low live..easy game..... any group that has to meet behind closed doors ... has something wrong going on and the mason are no different to all the other silly coward groups...... and should be stopped



freedom belongs to the grandchildren, we are just the caretakers :)

what like boy scouts and brownies?? :confused:

titurel
30-12-2007, 05:47 PM
you say they are a racist organization i have to stress u r very very wrong on that accusation
Masons in South Struggle with Racial Separation

Fraternal order grapples with tenacious tradition of segregation

Associated Press
24th October, 2006

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15405618/

Nationwide, Masonic groups operate in a separate-but-supposedly-equal system in which whites typically join one network of Masonic groups, called Grand Lodges, and blacks typically join another, called Prince Hall.

But in the South, it goes further: White-controlled Grand Lodges in 12 Southern states do not even officially recognize black Masons as their brothers — the Masonic term is “mutual recognition” — and in some cases, black lodges have taken similar stands.

Masons have quietly debated race relations for years, and the issue is increasingly coming into public view.

In Alabama, some dissident whites have split from the lodge system, and Republican Gov. Bob Riley’s membership in an all-white lodge has drawn fire in his campaign for a second term. In North Carolina, white Masons recently voted down a bid to recognize members of the black group as fellow Masons.

titurel
30-12-2007, 05:52 PM
there are also non masons who r openly racist so that argument doesn't really stand up
Albert Pike, on of the most prominent Freemasons in America, was a racist... Albert Pike was the owner and publisher of the Memphis, Tennessee Daily Appeal, in which Pike would often voice his opinions. In an editorial dated April 16, 1868, Albert Pike wrote:


"With negroes for witnesses and jurors, the administration of justice becomes a blasphemous mockery. A Loyal League of negroes can cause any white man to be arrested, and can prove any charges it chooses to have made against him. ...The disenfranchised people of the South ... can find no protection for property, liberty or life, except in secret association.... We would unite every white man in the South, who is opposed to negro suffrage, into one great Order of Southern Brotherhood, with an organization complete, active, vigorous, in which a few should execute the concentrated will of all, and whose very existence should be concealed from all but its members."

The following is a from a KKK Web site:

The Brotherhood of Klans, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

History of the Ku Klux Klan

http://www.robertelee-klavern.com/history.htm

Second era KKK was founded by Imperial Wizard William Joseph, who was a Freemason!:

The Klans Second Era Second Era takes place in 1915: The Ku Klux Klan of the Second Era is an entirely different organization, revived by Imperial Wizard William Joseph Simmons, who was a member of twelve (12) different Secret Societies, some of which were the Freemasons, and Knights Templar.

In the 1930's, the KKK was accepted by Freemasonry:

The following was taken from an article that appeared in the New Hampshire Sunday News in Manchester, N.H., May 29, 1983.

"Few remember that 50 years ago the Klan was an accepted and often respected organization. It donated to numerous charities, sponsored social clubs and with few exceptions, was a law abiding society accepted by other clubs such as the Masons, Knights of Pythias, Odd Fellows, and the Grangers. On April 24, 1924, during a dedication ceremony for a new organ at the First True Memorial Baptist Church, 20 Klansmen marched down the aisle, donated $67.00 to the church and left the service without incident."

Like Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, and other societies, the Klan carried on a fairly large amount of charity work wherever it was organized:

Politics eventually obscured every other form of Klan endeavor, but before southwestern Klansmen became thoroughly embroiled in political enterprises, the order had spread goodwill as a philanthropic institution. Like Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, and other societies, the Klan carried on a fairly large amount of charity work wherever it was organized. Imperial headquarters announced that local chapters gave more than $1,000,000 in charity during the year 1921.These contributions were distributed among a wide variety of worthy organizations and individuals; they ranged from modest donations to widows and sick people to ambitious fundraising drives for the construction of hospitals or orphans' homes. (pages 91-91)

500,000 Masons were citizens of the KKK, the "Invisible Empire", the KKK claimed:

In 1923, the Klan claimed that 500,000 Masons were citizens of the Invisible Empire. Both Simmons and his successor as Imperial Wizard, Evans, were Masons, and so many Masons joined the Klan that in some communities the Masonic lodge became simply an adjunct of the local Klan unit.

Railroad lines sometimes offered reduced fares to Klansmen and ran extra trains to take the sheeted Knights to their special Konklaves. (page 96)

thirdwave
30-12-2007, 06:00 PM
they hate anyone who is not a member... and see them as low live..easy game..... any group that has to meet behind closed doors ... has something wrong going on and the mason are no different to all the other silly coward groups...... and should be stopped



freedom belongs to the grandchildren, we are just the caretakers :)

I used to think this... but after having run ins with so many either religios people or just people with a limited belief systems here... I do wonder if all of these groups are actually evil and if sometimes the way they hide is understood...

there is no doubt there is ad has been for a very long time wrong doings going on and lots of evil things that need to be stopped... But I think with aloft of people it would not just be a case of stopping the bad people killing and holding down the innocents.. stopping them from having all the power and so on...But it will very much be generalised, viewed from their own belief systems that are very limited and could go back to the "Witch Hunt Days"..

In some cases I really do feel that people "Cant handle the truth"... and we see that here when people attack Icke and others...

Its just some of the scocities/families (the most power hungry ones) seem to want to keep it that way for their benifit...

for example... people view Magik and spirituality as evil ... mind control... satanic.... when this is not the case.... its like saying Eclecticity is evil because it can power things that make nuclear weapons... or can give people electric shocks... I could see a new kind of fascism come out of actually exposing the evil people... due to ignorance and fear of the un known.

Im sure looking at how some like to start Witch Hunts here bases on such limited info and understanding.. It surely will not encourage some of these groups to come out and educate the masses openly... would it?

and because if this ignorance it has aloud evil groups to take it to their full advantage...

the bottom line is the masses are far from perfect and do not always show a very mature outlook them selves... with most, anything they dont understand, they attack.... and the minority suffer because of this.

titurel
30-12-2007, 06:03 PM
Another racist quote by Freemason Albert Pike, the man who even wrote many of the rituals for Scottish Rite Freemasonry:

"I took my obligations to white men, not to negroes. When I have to accept negroes as brothers or leave Masonry, I shall leave it." - A line from a letter by Albert Pike (13th September, 1875), quoted in "A Critical Examination of Objections to the Legitimacy of the Masonry Existing Among the Negroes of America" by William H. Upton, 1902, p.214-15

kriss_crow
30-12-2007, 06:07 PM
I've been living in GB for almost one year now.
Am I allowed to sign the petition?

titurel
30-12-2007, 06:07 PM
David Icke wrote about Freemasonry in his book, The Biggest Secret (p.123), in which he associates Freemasonry with Satanism:

Venice was for centuries a hub of the reptile bloodlines who expanded into the Far East with the journeys of the Venetian, Marco Polo, of whom there is far more to know than official history suggests. The surviving royal families in Europe are the reptile bloodline of this Black Nobility, including Britain’s House of Windsor. This is why these royal houses, including the Windsors, are rife with Satanism and fundamentally connected with Freemasonry and other Elite secret societies.

malvern
30-12-2007, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malvern
they hate anyone who is not a member... and see them as low live..easy game..... any group that has to meet behind closed doors ... has something wrong going on and the mason are no different to all the other silly coward groups...... and should be stopped



freedom belongs to the grandchildren, we are just the caretakers

what like boy scouts and brownies??

i think you will find that scouts and brownies do not meet behind closed doors, all are welcome and do not have rules outside the law!!! unlike the freemasons. ... ...so in answer to your question...... no :D


freedom belongs to the grandchildren, we are just the caretakers

malvern
30-12-2007, 06:30 PM
hi thirdwave.... i do understand what your saying , but these group should not keep the truth from people.... people will seek it if they want and should be allowed...... man should be helping each other, not hiding from each other..


freedom is the truth

salina
30-12-2007, 06:30 PM
freemasonry - Giles Morgan

titurel
30-12-2007, 06:38 PM
"I feel that those who are part of The Craft possess an advantage over those who are not in it." - Freemason Dr. Robert Lomas (writing on Graham Hancock's forum last month)

danucrom
30-12-2007, 07:52 PM
I used to think this... but after having run ins with so many either religios people or just people with a limited belief systems here... I do wonder if all of these groups are actually evil and if sometimes the way they hide is understood...
From what I have seen so far it seems that your own belief system is pretty limited..Also given that your main idol is "affiliated" with a masonic order, and your other idol is Past Grand Master Frater Superior Aleister Crowley Baphomet XI, it doesn't suprise me that you are to a certain extent defending and sugar coating Freemasonry.
Btw, it may have slipped your attention, but Freemasonry is a religion, a compartmentalised religion that is very dogmatic and holds the vast majority in contempt.

there is no doubt there is ad has been for a very long time wrong doings going on and lots of evil things that need to be stopped... But I think with aloft of people it would not just be a case of stopping the bad people killing and holding down the innocents.. stopping them from having all the power and so on...But it will very much be generalised, viewed from their own belief systems that are very limited and could go back to the "Witch Hunt Days"..

Do you know how trite that silly comparison is?, What do you think the European "witch hunts" that took place between roughly 1450-1750 were all about?. Patriarchal Freemasonry in its various forms in Europe at the time was on the up and up and using the guise of "Christianity" to wage pogroms on people who wouldn't submit to their system, to be be successful it had to stigmatise and relegate women and monopolise knowledge.

for example... people view Magik and spirituality as evil ... mind control... satanic.... when this is not the case.... its like saying Eclecticity is evil because it can power things that make nuclear weapons... or can give people electric shocks... I could see a new kind of fascism come out of actually exposing the evil people... due to ignorance and fear of the un known.
Don't throw stones in glass houses TW.;)

i_am
30-12-2007, 08:49 PM
can you put this petition in 'sticky' catagory please

I have merged both threads and stuck for now in THIS forum.

masonfree party
30-12-2007, 09:32 PM
can anyone remember V.O.M.I.T newsletter....victims of masonic ill treatment...James Todd used to write it but he was in his 80's so may have died...or the bastards got him in the end

thirdwave
30-12-2007, 11:41 PM
From what I have seen so far it seems that your own belief system is pretty limited
LOL... I tell you what, I somtimes wish it could be!

..Also given that your main idol is "affiliated" with a masonic order,
How do you know who my main "idol" is... ? ...

and your other idol is Past Grand Master Frater Superior Aleister Crowley Baphomet XI,
Crowley is not my Idol.... just because I do not view his character in the same light as others and refuse to have my view rammed down my throat, it does not mean I worship them...

it doesn't suprise me that you are to a certain extent defending and sugar coating Freemasonry. I only speak facts.... not what people expect of me or what we should presume..... I have not seen any evidence that everyone who is "affiliated" with these groups are all in support of the NWO or Satanism... Infact your idol Alan Watt has often spoke about receiving documentation from Freemason friends of his... So why are you not suspicious on him?... why do they give him things?

I dont think we all know enough about the whole group to assume they all should be burnt at the stake..... We know the Illuminati is a power within them who are evil.... and have an evil agenda..... will kill and do anything to get it, thats all.

do you have Facts that every society is in support of this and kill innocent people ? As you will need them...

The thing is... Do you think these people have all the power because they are evil or is them being evil irrelevant to their power?..just who they are.. ... is it because they are evil they are at the top of the pyramid? ... or is it because they have an understanding of something the masses don't?... and what a big part of the masses cant seem to understand even when they are handed it on a plate.

I am saying the world will never turn this around and these people will never be beat until people actually wake up and open their mind to what this big "Secret" is! .... rather than thinking anything outside of a 5 sense reality is Satanic..evil ... and must not be trusted.... that is what the evil ones want you to think so they can sit pretty!

many Christians and other religions today would be happy to arrest anyone for being into Magik regardless of if they understand what they are even doing... because it challenges their beliefs.... and the same with others who dont feel comfy with it, they will be happy to cast it all under 1 umbrella... when History tells us that it is apart of us all ...

I am simply saying in order to defeat your enemy you need to identify it... but people are aiming at the hole board and not the hot points....

Thats how it feels to me.... recently there have been certain people here who IMO have been coming across as too narrow minded to solve this problem.... and I dont mean that in a stuck up way, and im not talking about those with a differing view to me... I mean the people who come here just to attack people ... and assume they have all the answers.... counter any of them and they don't like it, which to me exposes them.

When someone like Icke or Tsarion comes along and gives people incite into what these secrets are all about they start hitting them with a stick as well...


Btw, it may have slipped your attention, but Freemasonry is a religion, a compartmentalised religion that is very dogmatic and holds the vast majority in contempt.
Not really.... the fact they are all made to worship there view of the light...their god, where they think they draw energy from...then yes.... But I think its a much bigger concept than just a Religion.... and I also think there are several groups all with alternative view points and agendas.... I also think there are a good few who would be happy to come out with the truth but fear the consequences...

Do you know how trite that silly comparison is?, What do you think the European "witch hunts" that took place between roughly 1450-1750 were all about?. Patriarchal Freemasonry in its various forms in Europe at the time was on the up and up and using the guise of "Christianity" to wage pogroms on people who wouldn't submit to their system, to be be successful it had to stigmatise and relegate women and monopolise knowledge.
No it was not all about that.... as usual the powers that be will use anything to manipulate what they want... but it was also the way people thought back then in that anything that was out of the box was viewed as Satanic... and was met with a burning stick....

Sure the Illuminati would be happy for a psychic Woman to be killed rather than educate people... but there goes my point... yes they would have burnt the illuminati members at the stake if they knew... but they would have also burnt people like David Icke.


Don't throw stones in glass houses TW.;)
I never do.... I have no reason to throw stones at all. I just like to know where the stones that are thrown are coming from and going to.

No doubt people will like to view these views as mislead or strange... But I cant hold it back when I see so many here seem so strong on stopping these people with these Secrets.... yet when presented with the secrets... they mock those people or they demonise them..... and in many case just curse them for any association they have had with some secret groups...

No Tsarion is not my Lord.... no I do not worship Crowley... No I am not an Icke'et

I simply ask questions.... and do not like to follow the hurd with there fire sticks... running at anyone that they choose to think is evil... Im more busy working on my self than attacking others...

masonfree party
31-12-2007, 06:34 AM
wake up....freemasonry is the common denominator in all countries more so than religions...they infiltrate every public sector in very influential positions...they must be eradicated before we bring an end to wars,taxes,big brother society... VOTE MASON-FREE PARTY!

thirdwave
31-12-2007, 01:06 PM
wake up....freemasonry is the common denominator in all countries more so than religions...they infiltrate every public sector in very influential positions...they must be eradicated before we bring an end to wars,taxes,big brother society... VOTE MASON-FREE PARTY!

While its clear this evil people must be stopped and that this agenda is not going to work.... Its also clear that It is not the only problem humanity face and exposing Freemasonry will not liberate us...

We will be free from them but judging from how many go on here.. we will still not be free from our ways which is how the Freemasons have always controlled us.... and I say again I have not head any info that states that all who are involved take part in sacrifice and follow the NWO.... and are evil.... We certainly here about the ones that are....

I simple to not generalise and guess my judgements..... I look at the whole picture.

the Masses are by no means innocent.

salina
31-12-2007, 05:06 PM
i think you will find that scouts and brownies do not meet behind closed doors, all are welcome and do not have rules outside the law!!! unlike the freemasons. ... ...so in answer to your question...... no :D


freedom belongs to the grandchildren, we are just the caretakers

very much like brownies and cubs, if u r not a member u have to go through an initiation to join, but it is open to all (if u r correct gender and age to do so)well anyone can become a freemason (within reason)

salina
31-12-2007, 05:07 PM
wake up....freemasonry is the common denominator in all countries more so than religions...they infiltrate every public sector in very influential positions...they must be eradicated before we bring an end to wars,taxes,big brother society... VOTE MASON-FREE PARTY!

do you not think governments would get away with more than they already do if it was not for some freemasons pulling rein on them?

masonfree party
31-12-2007, 06:07 PM
do you not think governments would get away with more than they already do if it was not for some freemasons pulling rein on them?

Governments are freemasonic...why do you think they have masonic lodges in the houses of parliament and council town hall buildings...most if not all primeministers are freemasons..certainly all major bankers are..eradicate the scum by voting MASON-FREE PARTY!

kweli
31-12-2007, 07:30 PM
very much like brownies and cubs, if u r not a member u have to go through an initiation to join, but it is open to all (if u r correct gender and age to do so)well anyone can become a freemason (within reason)

Could you explain that again please?

salina
31-12-2007, 07:48 PM
yeah, to join brownies, cubs, guides or even boys brigade, u have to be sworn in kinda thing.U have to attend a couple of sessions and once u say a prayer thing u r then announced as a whichever it is u joined into

does that make it easier ?

phildee3
31-12-2007, 08:00 PM
very much like brownies and cubs, if u r not a member u have to go through an initiation to join, but it is open to all (if u r correct gender and age to do so)well anyone can become a freemason (within reason)

My tribe good,
your tribe bad.

= endless war.

phildee3
31-12-2007, 08:44 PM
It's not a group, or groups, that need to be eradicated,
nor is it any of their ideologies,
it's the selfish, greedy, control freaks that get into powerful positions within them.

Petition against tyranny!!

thirdwave
01-01-2008, 02:09 AM
Governments are freemasonic...why do you think they have masonic lodges in the houses of parliament and council town hall buildings...most if not all primeministers are freemasons..certainly all major bankers are..eradicate the scum by voting MASON-FREE PARTY!


the thing is.... I am all for bringing down dictatorship and all this secrecy.... but if you think we only have to point the finger at these people to solve our problems you are wrong...

look how narrow minded people are.... look at the shit people like David Icke go through.... mostly from people who claim to be "awake", and you think its just the Freemasons who are dishing out the problems...

people got to wake up... bottom line.

dann
09-02-2008, 02:22 PM
the thing is.... I am all for bringing down dictatorship and all this secrecy.... but if you think we only have to point the finger at these people to solve our problems you are wrong...

look how narrow minded people are.... look at the shit people like David Icke go through.... mostly from people who claim to be "awake", and you think its just the Freemasons who are dishing out the problems...

people got to wake up... bottom line.

THis is a waste of time any way, this has already been through court

resevaz
16-02-2008, 09:11 PM
As far as I'm concerned this kind of public action is absolutely nessessary to the cause. The PTB would have us believe that our actions have very little sway with anyone else, I wonder why that would be. Eventually, this kinda action forces change.

meridiansun
21-03-2008, 09:49 AM
Please click on the link below to confirm your signature on the
petition at the bottom of this email.


http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Masonfreelaw/

Hey, that's pretty impressive. 38 signatures from the entire UK in 3 months. Great work.

masonfree party
24-03-2008, 06:30 PM
Hey, that's pretty impressive. 38 signatures from the entire UK in 3 months. Great work.

WHY DON'T YOU STICK YOUR MERIDIAN WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE MATEY!

meridiansun
24-03-2008, 06:53 PM
WHY DON'T YOU STICK YOUR MERIDIAN WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE MATEY!
I'm sorry, that was unfair of me. I am sure in the fullness of time, you will receive more signatures on your petition.

Perhaps you can tell us more about what the Mason Free party is?

I see that it's not a registered political party with the UK Electoral Commission (http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/regulatory-issues/partylinks.cfm#m) and the only US political party I can see that vaguely resemble your title is the Anti Masonic Party, which was disbanded in 1838.

How many members do you have in UK? Have you stood in any local elections? Do you have a party manifesto we can look at?

Would like to know more about what the Mason Free party stands for. Please forgive my ignorance on this, but I have never heard of it before.

jambolina62
08-04-2008, 10:14 PM
I've signed your very worthwhile petition.

Live and let live!!!!

thelonious
08-04-2008, 10:33 PM
I've signed your very worthwhile petition.

Live and let live!!!!

How exactly can you "live and let live", if you are opposed to a entire group living the way they deem right?

chrism
08-04-2008, 10:45 PM
How exactly can you "live and let live", if you are opposed to a entire group living the way they deem right?


Jackie doesn't seem to have grasped that!

Still, at this rate they will have over 56 signatures by the time the petition closes. If we are going to do something, we need to start NOW.:o:o:o

Chris

critical_analysis
09-04-2008, 10:05 PM
How exactly can you "live and let live", if you are opposed to a entire group living the way they deem right?
Surely an argument Hitler and his Nazi's could have used?

the duke
11-04-2008, 01:59 AM
Hey, I might know a guy who wants to sign their petition!!! That could bolster their support by nearly 3%!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha.....ha ha ha ha!!!!

Time wasters!!

danielson23uk
11-04-2008, 06:21 PM
Hey, I might know a guy who wants to sign their petition!!! That could bolster their support by nearly 3%!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha.....ha ha ha ha!!!!

Time wasters!!

Now now Sir Duke. What did Lord Percy Percy, Heir to the Duchy on the Tumberland say about gloaters!?

philidor
18-04-2008, 01:31 AM
I cannot, in good concious, sign the document since joining Freemasonry is a personal choice. The Catholic church committed FAR more muder, theft, coercion, and fraud then any other organization in history. But imagine the outrage there would be to outlaw Christianity! Some Freemasons may make bad decisions, but alot of them are just good people who like to have that fraternity to go to as an escape. Besides they put alot of money into charitable organizations. Of course they took alot of rituals from Rosicrucianism (as did Scientology but nothing above the second atrium, WITHOUT the concent of the ) but that was probably with the concent of Francis Bacon or other high initiates of Rosicrucianism.

I do know however without a doubt that some Freemasons are indeed members of the Illuminati-Order which has a noble cause of ending church and state oppression, and this is why the Catholic church, Zionist, Neocons, and religious nuts smear the IO! An Illuminati master once said " If a billionaire was being held at gunpoint by a homeless person who then truely has the power?" Since monopolization of resources is immoral (taking advantage of others misfortunes like charging $50.00 for a bottle of medicine that cost $.50 to make and putting into debt third world countries by printing money out of thin air and loaning it to third world countries, charging insane amounts of interest. The Power Elite that run the Federal Reserve and world bank actually HATE the Illuminati-Order and wish to destroy it.)

Refering to the top 13 bloodlines as "illuminati" is poor etymology since Weishupt saw the corruption of the Catholic church in the Jesuit schools he attended. Weishupt has nothing to do with the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, Royal families, etc which should be given a different name. "the parasitical super elite" should be applied to the top 13 families to avoid confusion with Illuminism and the Illuminati Order.

tokz1k
18-04-2008, 02:46 AM
This thread inspired me to start a petition against world governments. We shall live in anarchy.

chrism
18-04-2008, 11:19 AM
This thread inspired me to start a petition against world governments. We shall live in anarchy.

Cool - who do you give it to??!!

This thread is still a sticky - I have not worked out why yet... the Ask a Mason thread is far better subscribed.

C

tokz1k
18-04-2008, 12:11 PM
It was sarcasm, considering this petition will never work, my guess is... they made that petition site (the government) to watch us more carefully at what we dont want. But of coures that is my opinion.

chrism
18-04-2008, 12:19 PM
It was sarcasm

Mine too.

Shame about the original post though, eh?

Chrism

tokz1k
18-04-2008, 12:27 PM
Oh, I understand your post now. Sorry I just woke up and pressed the refresh button and read that:o

But as you said, Who would you give it to; Who would you give this one to...
As far as my knowledge goes, the FMs have a deep connection to government officials.

Therefore, this petition will fail with an excuse from the people that wont take it,
"This petition is like a petition against religion, You can't do this"

Nice try, but I think we should start at the base of the problem and pull it apart one by one, like they are doing to us.

Lets take away there eyes by breaking all government watched CCTV cameras, just like they took our air away by spreading toxic chemicals out into the sky from their flying metal machines.

chrism
18-04-2008, 12:47 PM
But as you said, Who would you give it to; Who would you give this one to...
As far as my knowledge goes, the FMs have a deep connection to government officials.

Therefore, this petition will fail with an excuse from the people that wont take it,
"This petition is like a petition against religion, You can't do this"

You have a good point there, I know that a probably disproportionate number of masons are councillors or hold other government positions (including such things as Justice of the Peace etc).

As a mason, I would like to think that this is because we have a philanthropic side and want to do something to help the people, but would be very interested to hear your opinion too!

As for handing in a petition, my personal approach is that even if you go against everything I stand for, you have every right to have your say. While I would not sign your petition, if you raised one I would carry it to the gates of number 10 myself if you could not - not because I agree with you but because I believe you have a right to be heard.

And when it comes to religion, I believe you should be able to petition anything, regardless of subject matter. Surely if everyone agreed with the laws, petitions would not be needed?

Smashing the state - not for me, but then I am more beatnik than bovver-boy. If you think it will do any good, then you take the choice yourself. I just think our taxes will increase to pay for the replacement CCTV cameras myself.

Chrism

tokz1k
18-04-2008, 04:22 PM
Smashing the state - not for me, but then I am more beatnik than bovver-boy. If you think it will do any good, then you take the choice yourself. I just think our taxes will increase to pay for the replacement CCTV cameras myself.

Ahh, yes good point. Still mind mush this morning lol. I'm neutral on this Freemason subject, considering I don't not a lot about it, but I know enough to have an opinion about it.

I've been looking a lot into the Esoteric Agenda lately and what I heard about the FMs were petty crimes. I think I could put a Compton teen into the same category as FMs. They really just helped Great Britain keep USA enslaved to them. To this day, the UK owns everything and everyone in USA. The presidents are descendants of the UKs blood lines. So the nation of America is a huge fraud .

chrism
18-04-2008, 04:43 PM
The presidents are descendants of the UKs blood lines. So the nation of America is a huge fraud .

I really hope that does not mean I am related to GWB.

If I am, please accept my apologies.

I didn't know any better.

Oh - and you Americans owe us $8 trillion in back taxes. As one of only 70 million British people, you owe me personally £114,000 (or approx $200,000. I am setting up a paypal account as I write, please make payment as soon as possible to avoid legal action.

Thanks :D:D:D

Chris

thelonious
18-04-2008, 05:39 PM
To this day, the UK owns everything and everyone in USA.

Nope. That would be China.

lightgiver
21-04-2008, 12:03 AM
FBI,CIA,MI5,MI6,KGB,IRA,ULF,UDF,PLO,PPP,BBC,HMV,SA S,DUP,and on and on and on since the beginning of time:p:p:p:p:p:pR I P?AAAHHHHHH?:confused:OH and ITV,oh and the N W O 6 MILLION FREEMASONS plus Worldwide thats what we know of,and growing and they are all in power positions,they have even got a YOUTH Masons party:eek:REMIND you of something else(HITLER YOUTH):eek:AAAAAHHHHHH?ALL SECRET SOCIETIES SHOULD BE OUTLAWED?REAL FREEDOM SHOULD BE EXPRESSED THROUGH TRUTH IN A HONEST AND OPEN WAY.THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE POWER.WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD,we have concrete proof ,HONEST?YEAH RIGHT WEAPONS OF MASS DISTRACTION??????????????????????????????????

tokz1k
21-04-2008, 12:36 AM
FBI,CIA,MI5,MI6,KGB,IRA,ULF,UDF,PLO,PPP,BBC,HMV,SA S,DUP,and on and on and on since the beginning of time:p:p:p:p:p:pR I P?AAAHHHHHH?:confused:OH and ITV

You forgot NASA :p

chrism
21-04-2008, 12:06 PM
You forgot NASA :p

And the Peoples Front of Judea. Don't forget them.

Chrism

perry_mason
21-04-2008, 05:43 PM
And the Peoples Front of Judea. Don't forget them.

Chrism

Don't forget the Judean Peoples Front!;)

whatsontv
28-04-2008, 08:30 PM
Don't forget the Judean Peoples Front!;)

Touche.:)

zoloko
28-04-2008, 08:55 PM
I LOVE YOU!

As far as I“m concerned all "gangs" are made to keep certain people out! I was dissapointed that only Brits can sign this!

THANK YOU!

chrism
20-05-2008, 05:00 PM
The petition now has 41 signatories, meaning there have been 2 more in the last 2 months.

One of these is a joint entry from Diana, God and David Kelly, who join Donald Duck and Jesus Christ (from Bethlehem, therefore ineligible to vote, unfortunately) on the list.

just thought I would post a quick update,

Chrism

ban freekmasons
23-05-2008, 08:26 PM
chrism is one helluva dumb guy tee hee

chrism
26-05-2008, 10:07 PM
chrism is one helluva dumb guy tee hee

Yes. It's the unnerving way he has learned to use the shift key that first gave him away...

I'm sure you will get on to that when you start at Big School.

C

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 11:59 PM
CHRISM= a mixture of olive oil and balsam used for sacramental,
anointing in the,
GREEK ORTHODOX and
ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCHES:eek::rolleyes:
just a reminder just in case you forgot ;):D

chrism
11-06-2008, 12:20 PM
CHRISM= a mixture of olive oil and balsam used for sacramental,
anointing in the,
GREEK ORTHODOX and
ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCHES:eek::rolleyes:
just a reminder just in case you forgot ;):D

Chrism= A persona whose first name is Christopher and whose surname begins with 'M'

Just in case you had forgotten.

barney_rubble
11-06-2008, 05:17 PM
The signature count is up to a masive total of 45 from the entire UK in 6 months. :eek:

The deadline is 11 September 2008 so you better get crakin' on those signatures.

tinmenace
25-06-2008, 02:14 AM
http://vb.spiritual-nature.com/images/smilies/icon_bump.gif

paradox
03-07-2008, 01:09 AM
good.

marpat
11-07-2008, 12:22 PM
The signature count is up to a masive total of 45 from the entire UK in 6 months. :eek:

The deadline is 11 September 2008 so you better get crakin' on those signatures.


Amazing isn't it. These anti-freemasons claim to be fighting for the truth and for personal freedom and liberty but then they go and start a petition to take such liberty and freedom of choice away from people. Signs of a dictatorship that.

Maybe next they will start a petition to stop people going to church as obvioulsy a lot of people who run countries are christian and therefore the christian religion must be evil. We have only to look at what has been done by the west. Again we have the secret inner group who rule the nations and the christian lackies at the bottom, blissfully unaware that their religion is being used as a tool of evil. These are not my personal beliefs put I put them here to highlight how some of the stupid anti-freemason arguements can be applied to any group.

I have been in many threads regarding masons and what I have seen is a lot of nasty, stupid, baseless accusations leveled at freemasons. In return I have seen the masons behave with some dignity, showing convincing arguements.

chrism
11-07-2008, 08:35 PM
http://flabbergastedly.com/wp-content/uploads/Chatbilleder/Discount%20tent.jpg

izzy
11-07-2008, 09:54 PM
chrism i have just been reading your threads on the freemason forum :eek:

the one in the equivalent of the rant room .. the knob room or something .. haha it is really funny ..

element
11-07-2008, 09:55 PM
I see even Jesus Christ and Donald Duck have signed the petition. I might be tempted to sign aswell...

damagedbrainn
11-07-2008, 10:17 PM
I see even Jesus Christ and Donald Duck have signed the petition. I might be tempted to sign aswell...

Donald Duck is usually on the money about these things.

edelweiss pirate
11-07-2008, 10:36 PM
46 signatures.. That's pretty poor.

People are scared.

phildee3
11-07-2008, 10:41 PM
Donald Duck is usually on the money about these things.

Money is virtually obsolete.
Haven't you heard?

mike martin
12-07-2008, 12:01 AM
People are scared.

Of what?

How many DI followers here I'm sure it's more than 46. Are you saying that the "truthseekers" here are scared. Give over.

Mike

izzy
12-07-2008, 12:04 AM
46 signatures.. That's pretty poor.

People are scared.

i have to agree with mike martin here .. what are people scared of ?

I had never given freemasonry a second thought until i started to visit this forum .. some people on this forum are totally obsessed by freemasons ..

I dont think people are scared .. they are just happy to let people be members of which ever club or society they choose

mike martin
12-07-2008, 12:10 AM
i have to agree with mike martin here .. what are people scared of ?

I'd be careful Izzy, you'll find yourself in EP's "list of collaborators" then when the Ickist Pogrom begins you'll find yourself in the Camps along with us.

Mike

izzy
12-07-2008, 12:16 AM
I'd be careful Izzy, you'll find yourself in EP's "list of collaborators" then when the Ickist Pogrom begins you'll find yourself in the Camps along with us.

Mike

what are EP's ? oh well .. see you there ! :rolleyes:

oh ic see Edelweiss pirate :) YES i agree it sounds so programmed when people go on and on about masons .. ironic huh

darketernal
12-07-2008, 01:57 AM
I'd be careful Izzy, you'll find yourself in EP's "list of collaborators" then when the Ickist Pogrom begins you'll find yourself in the Camps along with us.

Mike

Wow just wow.... Mike for once you left me speechless.

rickcard
12-07-2008, 03:25 AM
If you just stand outside a Masonic Lodge and watch them file in ?

I did it at .... (well Mike can guess ?)

On the night I did it there was a provincial grand doodah stood outside.

I stood opposite side of the road. Just stood still and observed. Up screamed a sporty car driven way too fast. He jammed on the brakes, screeched to a halt. Leapt out of the car with his little case in hand. Spat the fag end out of his gob and trod it into the road as he crossed blowing smoke actually towards the provincial grand chap.

I just smiled a little. And the provincial grand poo bah looked across and quickly averted his eyes. I was imagining picking up the fag end and ramming it up the litter bug twats nostrils.

Then up revved another motor. 4 x 4 personalized number. Oh I know him I made him pay up the money to a charity after a boxing charity do once. He had overlooked to pay the money over to the charity. Sure enough he averted his eyes too. He has a reputation in the area as a hard man. He don't want to lose that by having me give him another load of woparse so his masonic buddies see his charity thieving arse get a kicking. That really makes me smile.

The Grand provincial man can see I am enjoying my quiet smiling vigil.

They did not join to seek moral enlightenment. What a load of bollocks. They were scum when they joined and remained scum afterwards only more confident of getting away with it.

To know Freemasonry just know Freemasons.

Use your own all seeing eye.

mike martin
12-07-2008, 11:55 AM
If you just stand outside a Masonic Lodge and watch them file in ?

I did it at .... (well Mike can guess ?)

On the night I did it there was a provincial grand doodah stood outside.

I stood opposite side of the road. Just stood still and observed. Up screamed a sporty car driven way too fast. He jammed on the brakes, screeched to a halt. Leapt out of the car with his little case in hand. Spat the fag end out of his gob and trod it into the road as he crossed blowing smoke actually towards the provincial grand chap.

I just smiled a little. And the provincial grand poo bah looked across and quickly averted his eyes. I was imagining picking up the fag end and ramming it up the litter bug twats nostrils.

Then up revved another motor. 4 x 4 personalized number. Oh I know him I made him pay up the money to a charity after a boxing charity do once. He had overlooked to pay the money over to the charity. Sure enough he averted his eyes too. He has a reputation in the area as a hard man. He don't want to lose that by having me give him another load of woparse so his masonic buddies see his charity thieving arse get a kicking. That really makes me smile.

The Grand provincial man can see I am enjoying my quiet smiling vigil.

They did not join to seek moral enlightenment. What a load of bollocks. They were scum when they joined and remained scum afterwards only more confident of getting away with it.

To know Freemasonry just know Freemasons.
Hardly a damning catalogue of crimes but I take your point about the bloke who didn't pay up, it does happen.

Although I would question your logic on thinking you should judge all Freemasons based on the few that you are acquainted with. If you stood outside my West Kent Lodge you would see different people and different behaviour.

No one said we were perfect, we just try to be better than we were, I know I do.

Mike

edelweiss pirate
12-07-2008, 02:24 PM
Hardly a damning catalogue of crimes but I take your point about the bloke who didn't pay up, it does happen.

Although I would question your logic on thinking you should judge all Freemasons based on the few that you are acquainted with. If you stood outside my West Kent Lodge you would see different people and different behaviour.

No one said we were perfect, we just try to be better than we were, I know I do.

Mike


Er... why are you speaking for a man you presumably don't know? What if the man were a child abuser too, would you back him up there as well.

You would wouldn't you, because you have to.

Your poor little souls are spread very thinly indeed Mike Martin.

izzy
12-07-2008, 03:45 PM
Er... why are you speaking for a man you presumably don't know? What if the man were a child abuser too, would you back him up there as well.

You would wouldn't you, because you have to.

Your poor little souls are spread very thinly indeed Mike Martin.


actually EP i think you are an agent - seriously .. i am not joking.

You are an agent to stop any free thinking and to stop any dialogue .. between two groups .. you are a free speech agent .. and i am not joking here ..

element
12-07-2008, 03:56 PM
46 signatures.. That's pretty poor.

People are scared.

Only UK'ers can sign it.

mike martin
12-07-2008, 07:49 PM
Er... why are you speaking for a man you presumably don't know? What if the man were a child abuser too, would you back him up there as well.

You would wouldn't you, because you have to.

Your poor little souls are spread very thinly indeed Mike Martin.

Err, hmmm, err??

Well actually I was just pointing out the blindingly obvious and not actually defending anyone in particular.

However, thank you once again for that scary insight into how your mind works on these things.

Mike

cacadores
24-07-2008, 02:48 PM
They are a racist group. Just because they alow a few non-whites in doesn't alter this fact. The Royals, and their Darwinist lackies are all masons and all support Darwinist philosophy, which is a raist ideology.
Look at Albert Pike, who wrote Jock Rites Morals and Dogma, he created the KKK.
I know masons who are openly racist, and admit it is a white protestant (so they think!) organisation.
How come there are black Freemasons, black lodges and black Freemasonic orders then?

doesn't alter this fact.Yet you've given us no facts. Only insinuations about what you believe the Royals (which Royals?) and a man who lived 100 years ago believe.

1) Royals ''support'' Darwinism. Any evidence?
2) Albert Pike was racist. Any evidence this was not normal for the time?
Do you know what sort of troops Pike chose to lead and be associated with in the Civil War?
Do you know what races he willlingly gave the rules of Scottish Rite Masonry to?
Do you know what races he assisted with setting up their own lodges?
Do you know who wrote:
''Again, if the negro lodges are not regular, they can easily get regularized. If our Grand Lodges won't recognize negro lodges, they have the right to go elsewhere. The Grand Lodge can't say to eight or more Masons, black or white, we will not give you a charter because you are negroes, or because you wish to work the Scottish Rite, and you shall not go elsewhere to get one: That latter part is bosh''.

I just ask:)

barney_rubble
25-07-2008, 01:53 PM
Originally Posted by edelweiss pirate
46 signatures.. That's pretty poor.

People are scared.
Only UK'ers can sign it.


Actually I am pretty sure Donald Duck is American.

element
25-07-2008, 04:01 PM
Actually I am pretty sure Donald Duck is American.

He does have heritage to Scotland? Scrooge McDuck was Scottish. Donald got Scottish blood.
Maybe he even was a 33th degree mason of Scottish Rite. OMG!!!:D

tinmenace
25-07-2008, 04:07 PM
He does have heritage to Scotland? Scrooge McDuck was Scottish. Donald got Scottish blood. Maybe he even was a 33th degree mason of Scottish Rite. OMG!!!:D

OMG! What about the similar hats? :eek:

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/scrooge.jpg http://spiritual-nature.com/images/freemasontophat.jpg

:D

tinmenace
25-07-2008, 05:42 PM
OMG! What about the similar hats? :eek:

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/scrooge.jpg http://spiritual-nature.com/images/freemasontophat.jpg

:D

Scrooge surrounded by dollar signs, which we automatically assume means money.

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/scrooge2.jpg

Where does the dollar sign come from? Nobody knows for sure, but one theory is that it represents the Caduceus carried by Hermes, the god and protector of merchants and thieves (among other things).

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/caduceus.png
Caduceus

The Caduceus is often mistaken as the Staff of Asclepius (Ęsclepius, Asklepios), which is the symbol for medical or healing arts (most doctors don't fit that description).

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/staff.jpg
Staff of Asclepius

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/worldhealth.jpg (http://www.who.int/en/)
World Health Organization logo (http://www.who.int/en/)

So, the dollar sign possibly represents the protection of merchants and thieves (some descriptions include bankers, liars and gamblers). Ol' Scrooge, what an interesting character!

:eek:

element
03-08-2008, 08:05 PM
Scrooge surrounded by dollar signs, which we automatically assume means money.

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/scrooge2.jpg

Where does the dollar sign come from? Nobody knows for sure, but one theory is that it represents the Caduceus carried by Hermes, the god and protector of merchants and thieves (among other things).

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/caduceus.png
Caduceus

The Caduceus is often mistaken as the Staff of Asclepius (Ęsclepius, Asklepios), which is the symbol for medical or healing arts (most doctors don't fit that description).

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/staff.jpg
Staff of Asclepius

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/worldhealth.jpg (http://www.who.int/en/)
World Health Organization logo (http://www.who.int/en/)

So, the dollar sign possibly represents the protection of merchants and thieves (some descriptions include bankers, liars and gamblers). Ol' Scrooge, what an interesting character!

:eek:




Yeah , excellent stuff.

The masons are caught red-handed now. I bet they're pissing in their pants now.
Scrooge wants all the money in the world are we connecting dots?:D:D:p

miss_splitfoot
03-08-2008, 08:15 PM
i signed this petition & just checked to see how many names are down. 51 (including Jesus & Donald), that's disappointing :/

phildee3
04-08-2008, 11:04 AM
i signed this petition & just checked to see how many names are down. 51 (including Jesus & Donald), that's disappointing :/



It restores my faith in people,
and in the hope that sanity rules!

masonfree party
17-08-2008, 11:41 AM
don't worry you masonic filth are heading for a big fall soon....recruits are falling,the old ones are dieing and the internet is exposing all your lies and deceits.

jacob sladder
17-08-2008, 07:57 PM
don't worry you masonic filth are heading for a big fall soon....recruits are falling,the old ones are dieing and the internet is exposing all your lies and deceits.

Hey! Not in my Lodge or Province! We're packing 'em in!! :D

barney_rubble
09-10-2008, 03:44 PM
Well the petition has closed.

Let's see it was opened from (at least) Dec 30, 2007 until Sept 11,2008.
That is 8 months and 12 days (if my math holds).

And after discounting the following signatures we have a grand total of 52 signers: Jesus Christ (from Bethlehem)
Donald Duck
How many more civilians must sustain Evidenced Death Threats from an occult "state religion"?
Not Likely


Pretty impressive. The Prime Minister must surely act on this with such public outcry.

element
09-10-2008, 03:47 PM
Well the petition has closed.

Let's see it was opened from (at least) Dec 30, 2007 until Sept 11,2008.
That is 8 months and 12 days (if my math holds).

And after discounting the following signatures we have a grand total of 52 signers: Jesus Christ (from Bethlehem)
Donald Duck
How many more civilians must sustain Evidenced Death Threats from an occult "state religion"?
Not Likely


Pretty impressive. The Prime Minister must surely act on this with such public outcry.


Hhahahhah.

A ''Barney Rubble and Fred Flintstone'' would complete it though. :(

phildee3
09-10-2008, 03:51 PM
we have a grand total of 52 signers



Fifty-two???

OMG!!

That's the number of playing cards in a deck!

And we all know that the orogin of playing cards is - gulp -

the illuminati generated, occult masonic Tarot!!

eastbeast
15-10-2008, 03:25 PM
I sincerely hope that any who genuinely signed the petition took the time to find out about Freemasonry and Freemasons before committing themselves.

Masonfree party seems to have an incredibly biased view against Freemasons.
'you masonic filth' he calls us amongst other things.

On a somewhat related note, I had a wonderful bloke working for me once who swore blind that he was being followed, persecuted etc. Stragely it all came to an end when he stopped smoking Cannabis.
I'm sure the above two aren't connected, it was pure coincidence.

runciter
15-10-2008, 03:38 PM
I sincerely hope that any who genuinely signed the petition took the time to find out about Freemasonry and Freemasons before committing themselves.

Masonfree party seems to have an incredibly biased view against Freemasons.
'you masonic filth' he calls us amongst other things.

On a somewhat related note, I had a wonderful bloke working for me once who swore blind that he was being followed, persecuted etc. Stragely it all came to an end when he stopped smoking Cannabis.
I'm sure the above two aren't connected, it was pure coincidence.

recommended reading:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41EPK98AYML._SL500_AA240_.jpg

eastbeast
15-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Thanks for the recommend runciter, I will try to get hold of that. (As I have an open mind and am capable of forming my own opinions)

Thank you also for having some dignity and class, not just jumping on the back of another one of those 'masonic filth'.

barney_rubble
15-10-2008, 05:07 PM
recommended reading:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41EPK98AYML._SL500_AA240_.jpg


I have heard of this book from a number of sources, but I can not find it.


I can not even find it on Steven King's official web site:
http://www.stephenking.com/

If you can find and ISBN number please pass it on - I would love to order the book as I am a Stephen King fan. I am in earnest.

barney_rubble
15-10-2008, 05:11 PM
I have heard of this book from a number of sources, but I can not find it.


I can not even find it on Steven King's official web site:
http://www.stephenking.com/

If you can find and ISBN number please pass it on - I would love to order the book as I am a Stephen King fan. I am in earnest.


Never mind I found it:
Title: The Brotherhood
Publisher: HarperCollins Publishers Ltd (1985)
ISBN-10: 0586059830
ISBN-13: 978-0586059838

Still strange I do not see it on Stephen King's site anywhere.
Has Stephen disowned this work????

runciter
15-10-2008, 05:16 PM
this stephen is not a king,

http://www.midisegni.it/storia/disegni/parsifal.gif

but only a knight..

eastbeast
15-10-2008, 05:17 PM
Never mind I found it:
Publisher: HarperCollins Publishers Ltd (1985)
ISBN-10: 0586059830
ISBN-13: 978-0586059838

Still strange I do not see it on Stephen King's site anywhere.
Has Stephen disowned this work????

Stephen King might have but Stephen Knight who looks like he wrote it probably hasn't...............:D

barney_rubble
15-10-2008, 05:21 PM
this stephen is not a king,

http://www.midisegni.it/storia/disegni/parsifal.gif

but only a knight..

Stephen King might have but Stephen Knight who looks like he wrote it probably hasn't...............:D


Oh what an idiot I am.
Well now I am not so eager to read it.

Thank you both for the correction.

phildee3
15-10-2008, 09:37 PM
I had a wonderful bloke working for me once who swore blind that he was being followed, persecuted etc. Stragely it all came to an end when he stopped smoking Cannabis.
I'm sure the above two aren't connected, it was pure coincidence.



Of course they are connected.
When he stopped smoking cannabis, he stopped noticing.

You're not paranoid.
They really are out to get you!

eastbeast
16-10-2008, 11:09 AM
Of course they are connected.
When he stopped smoking cannabis, he stopped noticing.

You're not paranoid.
They really are out to get you!


Ha ha good one.........Anyway who said I'm not paranoid.......And why....

phildee3
16-10-2008, 11:29 AM
"You're not paranoid.
They really are out to get you!"

who said I'm not paranoid.......And why....



Sorry, I should have put that in quotation marks.
It's a well known phrase or saying - for everyone.

It wasn't aimed towards you at all; more, perhaps to your friend.

luckyjag
21-03-2009, 05:47 PM
so sorry i missed the deadline on these but will watch for future petitions and def sign them

eastbeast
22-03-2009, 11:39 AM
As you can see not many signed so every one helps.

stewart edwards
22-03-2009, 08:19 PM
Eastbeat

Mind you I only got 21 signatures on my one
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/MorefromLife/

:(

Wonder if I should start one getlessfromlife and see how that goes.:rolleyes:

verndewd
10-04-2009, 02:53 AM
I wouldnt sign one. I dont believe in witch hunts.

nihil
22-08-2009, 07:22 AM
I don't believe in witch hunts


This is a Petition questioning Masonry , while Catholicism dealt with Witches in the past .