Naga- or reptillians?

[stormahawk]

I found this on Naga in wikipidea. Very intersting and strangely coincindental.
Traditions about nāgas are also very common in all the Buddhist countries of Asia. In many countries, the nāga concept has been merged with local traditions of large and intelligent serpents or dragons. In Tibet, the nāga was equated with the klu (pronounced lu), spirits that dwell in lakes or underground streams and guard treasure. In China, the nāga was equated with the lóng or Chinese dragon.

The Buddhist nāga generally has the form of a large cobra-like snake, usually with a single head but sometimes with many. At least some of the nāgas are capable of using magic powers to transform themselves into a human semblance. In Buddhist painting, the nāga is sometimes portrayed as a human being with a snake or dragon extending over his head. One nāga, in human form, attempted to become a monk; when telling it that such ordination was impossible, the Buddha told it how to ensure that it would be reborn a man, able to become a monk.

Nāgas are believed to both live on Mount Sumeru, among the other minor deities, and in various parts of the human-inhabited earth. Some of them are water-dwellers, living in rivers or the ocean; others are earth-dwellers, living in underground caverns.


Egyptian pharaohs are also depicted with cobra like snakes over their heads. Coincidence?

[octopusrex]

No, of course not.

Nor is Odin One-Eye.

[woghd]

I don't believe in coincidences.

Archangel

[octopusrex]

There are no coincidences. There are lessons.

Life is a little like a school where you get EXACTLY what you want.

[stormahawk]

I dont believe in coincidences either. I think it is all referring to the same creature/being- the reptillians. And if someone was looking for historical evidence- here it is!

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There are no coincidences. There are lessons.

Life is a little like a school where you get EXACTLY what you want.how do you know, octopusrex

[octopusrex]

Cause I've been around, edit.

[cloudgazer]

Very interesting. Also did you see them's post in the "Reveal yourself" thread in the General forum, she showed a picture of the Kappa with a wikipedia link (from Japanese folklore). They are the water dwelling kind. You should read about them on wiki!

[mariag]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Kappa_water_imp_1836.jpg

most see kappa as child-sized humanoids, though their bodies are often more like those of monkeys or frogs than human beings. Some descriptions say their faces are apelike, while others show them with beaked visages more like those of tortoises or with duck beaks. Pictures usually show kappa with thick shells and scaly skin that ranges in color from green to yellow or blue.

Kappa inhabit the ponds and rivers of Japan and have various features to aid them in this environment, such as webbed hands and feet. They are sometimes even said to smell like fish, and they can certainly swim like them. The expression kappa-no-kawa-nagare ("a kappa drowning in a river") conveys the idea that even experts make mistakes.

The most notable feature of the kappa, however, is the water-filled depressions atop their heads. These cavities are surrounded by scraggly hair, and this type of bobbed hair style is named okappa-atama for the creatures. The kappa derive their incredible strength from these liquid-filled holes, and anyone confronted with one may exploit this weakness by simply getting the kappa to spill the water from its head. The kappa possesses a deep sense of etiquette, so one trusted method is to appeal to this, for a kappa cannot help but return a deep bow, even if it means losing its head-water in the process. Once depleted, the kappa is seriously weakened and may even die. Other tales say that this water allows kappa to move about on land, and once emptied, the creatures are immobilized. Stubborn children are encouraged to follow the custom of bowing on the grounds that it is a defense against kappa. In addition, the Japanese Folklore says that the kappa is a master of Koppo; the bone-breaking technique, which was actually invented by them.

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Cause I've been around, edit.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSM5JL5LDEc

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Inn ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPlXi0JErxg&feature=related

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China - ?
http://www.haspa.nl/users/hans/ebaypics/c211-AmataBoogje1.jpg
China - The art of clay- ?
http://www.nikerchina.com/english/laotou.jpg
China - the Great Wall - ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSIoW1E6CQw&feature=related

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hmm?http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/china/art/pictures/china4800bcpitcher.jpg

[stormahawk]

Interesting about the kappa. The chinese dragons or long, also live in water and caves. I will research more. Chinese literature and myths refer to many dragons besides the famous long. The linguist Michael Carr analyzed over 100 ancient dragon names attested in Chinese classic texts.[8] Many such Chinese names derive from the suffix -long:

Tianlong (Chinese: 天龍; pinyin: tiānlóng; Wade-Giles: t'ien-lung; literally "heavenly dragon"), celestial dragon that guards heavenly palaces and pulls divine chariots; also a name for Draco (constellation)
Shenlong (Chinese: 神龍; pinyin: shénlóng; Wade-Giles: shen-lung; literally "spirit dragon"), thunder god that controls the weather, appearance of a human head, dragon's body, and drum-like stomach
Fucanglong (Chinese: 伏藏龍; pinyin: fúcánglóng; Wade-Giles: fu-tsang-lung; literally "hidden treasure dragon"), underworld guardian of precious metals and jewels, associated with volcanoes
Dilong (Chinese: 地龍; pinyin: dìlóng; Wade-Giles: ti-lung; literally "earth dragon"), controller of rivers and seas; also a name for earthworm
Yinglong (Chinese: 應龍; pinyin: yìnglóng; Wade-Giles: ying-lung; literally "responding dragon"), winged dragon associated with rains and floods, used by Huangdi to kill Chi You
Jiaolong (Chinese: 蛟龍; pinyin: jiāolóng; Wade-Giles: chiao-lung; literally "crocodile dragon"), hornless or scaled dragon, leader of all aquatic animals
Panlong (Chinese: 蟠龍; pinyin: pánlóng; Wade-Giles: p'an-lung; literally "coiled dragon"), lake dragon that has not ascended to heaven
Huanglong (Chinese: 黃龍; pinyin: huánglóng; Wade-Giles: huang-lung; literally "yellow dragon"), hornless dragon symbolizing the emperor
Feilong (Chinese: 飛龍; pinyin: fēilóng; Wade-Giles: fei-lung; literally "flying dragon"), winged dragon that rides on clouds and mist; also a name for pterosaur (compare Feilong kick and Fei Long character)
Qinglong (Chinese: 青龍; pinyin: qīnglóng; Wade-Giles: ch'ing-lung; literally "Azure Dragon"), East one of the Four Symbols, mythological creatures in the Chinese constellations
Fewer Chinese dragon names derive from the prefix long-:

Longwang (Chinese: 龍王; pinyin: lóngwáng; Wade-Giles: lung-wang; literally "Dragon Kings") divine rulers of the Four Seas
Longma (Chinese: 龍馬; pinyin: lóngmǎ; Wade-Giles: lung-ma; literally "dragon horse"), emerged from the Luo River and revealed Bagua (concept) to Fu Xi
Chinese scholars have classified dragons in diverse systems. For instance, Emperor Huizong of Song canonized five colored dragons as "kings".

The Azure Dragon [Qinglong 青龍] spirits, most compassionate kings.
The Vermillion Dragon [Zhulong 朱龍] spirits, kings that bestow blessings on lakes.
The Yellow Dragon [Huanglong 黃龍] spirits, kings that favorably hear all petitions.
The White Dragon [Bailong 白龍] spirits, virtuous and pure kings.
The Black Dragon [Xuanlong 玄龍] spirits, kings dwelling in the depths of the mystic waters.[9]


Here is some stuff on Wikipedia on European dragons.
In European folklore, a dragon is a serpentine legendary creature. The Latin word draco, as in the constellation Draco, comes directly from Greek δράκων, (drákōn, gazer). The word for dragon in Germanic mythology and its descendants is worm (Old English: wyrm, Old High German: wurm, Old Norse: ormr), meaning snake or serpent. In Old English wyrm means "serpent", draca means "dragon". Finnish lohikäärme means directly "salmon-snake", but the word lohi- was originally louhi- meaning crags or rocks, a "mountain snake". Though a winged creature, the dragon is generally to be found in its underground lair, a cave that identifies it as an ancient creature of earth. Likely, the dragons of European and Mid Eastern mythology stem from the cult of snakes found in religions throughout the world.[citation needed]

I have noticed that the naga, chinese dragons, and the european dragons are subterranean and have an attraction for treasure

[cloudgazer]

I almost forgot to tell you all about the dragon myths from Michigan (where I'm from). My boyfriend read about it in a book called Weird Michigan. The title may be slightly off. Anyway, American Indians and even settlers spotted a serpent in the water and it is said to live underneath Michigan in the underground rivers that run under this state, and also in Lake Michigan and the other surrounding Great Lakes as well. I found something similar online about it.

http://www.crookedpath.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=190&FORUM_ID=13&CAT_ID=4&Forum_Title=Misc+Lore&Topic_Title=Dragons+in+North+American+Mythology&whichpage=1&tmp=1#pid439

The link also shows a picture of an Ojibwa (Amer. Indian tribe) rock painting of this serpent creature.

This link was also on that link. Dragons of fame: North America

http://www.blackdrago.com/famous_northamer.htm