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firepoet
14-04-2011, 11:22 AM
Discovered: Hitler's secret escape sub Type XIB sunk off Cape Cod on 25th August 1944

Discovered: Hitler's secret escape U-boat Type XIB sunk off Cape Cod on 25th August 1944 - YouTube
Video 31min 39secs.

History said this vessel didn't exist, all contemporary accounts say the vessel couldn't even have been built.

tinyint
14-04-2011, 11:36 AM
The crucial question is, where did the sub leave? Kiel? Spain?
They had two routes, north and south. So we deal with route north here.

http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/feb99/type-xib.htm#cont

At the same time they sank (allegedly) the sub, Prince Bernhard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_Lippe-Biesterfeld) of the Netherlands was funnily at Cape Cod.

Is that Bill Ryan interviewing?

firepoet
14-04-2011, 11:47 AM
Efforts To Raise Super Secret Nazi U-Boat Off Cape Cod

"OPERATION CA-35" is a joint project of discovery conducted by Trident Research & Recovery, Inc. of Framingham, Massachusetts and Sub-Sea Research, Inc. of Portland, Maine. It is much more than just a marine salvage operation. Indeed, it is an attempt to discover the facts surrounding the sinking of a legendary German U-Boat off the coast of Cape Cod, Massachusetts in August of 1944, and to uncover the reasons for its secrecy for over fifty-four years.

The name assigned to this project is derived from the wartime German Naval marine quadrant location of the U-Boat wreckage initially located in 1993. The term 'CA' refers directly to the German navigational box coordinate designated for the area immediately off the eastern shore of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, with the numbers '35' referring to the location within that designated box.

The process of discovery is a very time consuming matter. The reader must keep in mind that this brief is preliminary and therefore, incomplete. As information is received and assessed by Trident and Sub Sea it will be duly posted within updated and revised versions of this briefing.


II. H I S T O R I C A L O V E R V I E W

The availability of recently declassified military, political and intelligence documents are slowly assisting the professional researcher in filling in the gaps of World War Two history. Instead of seeing what appears to be a convoluted series of events we are now starting to
understand just how the geopolitical strategies of the various governments involved in the conflict actually dictated the outcome of the battlefield scenario.

With this in mind, we will relate here a general status of World War Two as it stood during the summer and fall of 1944, and then lay in the minute details that actually affected the important events unfolding during this time frame.

During the summer of 1944 the United States and her Allies, namely Great Britain and the Soviet Union, had commenced the final push to victory over Germany's Third Reich in Europe. The now famous "D-Day" landings on the French Normandy coast were successfully accomplished on 6 June and the German battle lines gradually gave way under the Allied onslaught. The German High Command knew well that it was the beginning of
a long retreat and would ultimately end in a total defeat..

In fact, a little over a year earlier in the month of February, 1943 the German military and civilian populace witnessed the disastrous events unfolding on the Russian Front. With the loss of the city of Stalingrad to the Soviet forces those individuals inside Germany with any insight at all could see very well what the inevitable outcome would be. As a result of these German military losses the several Nazi-Opposition groups, already in place within Germany since 1939, now began to increase their activity. These particular individuals and organizations firmly believed that Hitler's plans of domination were a direct threat to their country's best interests. The groups incorporated many of the German social and political elite who had actually assisted Hitler's Fascist machine in the first place, most notably Germany's "Technocrats" of political leaders, industrialists, bankers and highly placed military officers. By February of 1943 these opportun ists became increasingly disillusioned with the Hitlerite agendas and commenced making their own arrangements for their post-war futures, both as individuals and as corporate entities.

Highly placed military leaders such as Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, Chief of Germany's leading intelligence agency the 'Abwehr', and Field Marshals' Walter von Kluge and Erwin Rommel, as well as several high-ranking staff officers within the Kriegsmarine and Wehrmacht, actively conspired in the failed attempt to assassinate Adolph Hitler on the 20th. of July, 1944.

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/warfare-military/138-efforts-raise-super-secret-nazi-u-boat-off-cape-cod.html

knightofthegrail
14-04-2011, 11:58 AM
Who are these people and where is this interview taking place? :confused:

porridge
14-04-2011, 12:05 PM
Then he headed of to the north pole inner world portal & is living it up in Agartha...old news:p

tinyint
14-04-2011, 12:08 PM
Then he headed of to the north pole inner world portal & is living it up in Agartha...old news:p

Obviously not old enough.
No North pole involvement evident. :rolleyes::p

firepoet
14-04-2011, 12:26 PM
The crucial question is, where did the sub leave? Kiel? Spain?
They had two routes, north and south. So we deal with route north here.

http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/feb99/type-xib.htm#cont

At the same time they sank (allegedly) the sub, Prince Bernhard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_Lippe-Biesterfeld) of the Netherlands was funnily at Cape Cod.

Is that Bill Ryan interviewing?

I'm not sure if it is Bill Ryan interviewing, tried to watch the video but my laptop keeps crashing.

First I've come across this story.

Just trying to find out what Prince Bernhardt was doing in the US at that time, as commander of Dutch forces wouldn't he best placed in England for the DDay landings.

tinyint
14-04-2011, 12:43 PM
Just trying to find out what Prince Bernhardt was doing in the US at that time, as commander of Dutch forces wouldn't he best placed in England for the DDay landings.

You probably miss out that Bernhard was a German, who also was a SS-Officer, and later founder of the Bilderbergs. His house stems from an area with great military tradition. Schaumburg-Lippe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_of_Schaumburg-Lippe), basically the whole Lippe region..
He married into the House of Orange.

Funny, the positive words swindlepedia lets us read on SS in this case:

In the 1930s, with the rise of Adolf Hitler, Prince Bernhard’s younger brother Aschwin publicly declared his support for the Nazis. Prince Bernhard was a member of the honorary German Reiter SS Corps (SS cavalry corps). The Prince eventually went to work for the German chemical giant IG Farben, then the world’s fourth-largest company (which survives today as BASF, AGFA, and Bayer). After training, he became secretary to the board of directors at the Paris office in 1935. Because he was a Protestant of royal rank (the Lippe-Biesterfelds were a sovereign house in the German Empire), Bernhard was acceptable to Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands as a suitable husband for her daughter Princess Juliana.

firepoet
14-04-2011, 12:57 PM
You probably miss out that Bernhard was a German, who also was a SS-Officer, and later founder of the Bilderbergs. His house stems from an area with great military tradition. Schaumburg-Lippe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_of_Schaumburg-Lippe), basically the whole Lippe region..
He married into the House of Orange.

Funny, the positive words swindlepedia lets us read on SS in this case:


I got that from wiki also, strange they would list all of his career except the SS.

"During World War II the German-born prince was part of the London based Allied war planning councils and an active RAF wing commander flying both fighter and bomber planes into combat" wouldn't surprise me if the sewer rat had a hand in planning the Dresden Holocaust.

tinyint
14-04-2011, 01:03 PM
I got that from wiki also, strange they would list all of his career except the SS.

"During World War II the German-born prince was part of the London based Allied war planning councils and an active RAF wing commander flying both fighter and bomber planes into combat" wouldn't surprise me if the sewer rat had a hand in planning the Dresden Holocaust.

Yep, in my book, he most likely was a traitor, closely aligned with the other german royal traitors in UK.

But we'll never know, since wars have been fought in our history by marriages too. Was always good practice.

orage
14-04-2011, 01:24 PM
I got that from wiki also, strange they would list all of his career except the SS.

"During World War II the German-born prince was part of the London based Allied war planning councils and an active RAF wing commander flying both fighter and bomber planes into combat" wouldn't surprise me if the sewer rat had a hand in planning the Dresden Holocaust.

But... but... but... he spearheaded the poachers/big game hunters foundations, I mean the World Wildlife Fund.

m Laufe seiner Geschichte ist der WWF, der sich selbst als "Partner der Wirtschaft" versteht[7], auch von großen Unternehmen unterstützt worden, darunter Chevron und Exxon (die 1988 jeweils mehr als 50.000 US-Dollar spendeten) sowie Philip Morris, ExxonMobil und der Morgan Guaranty Trust. Der Corporate Club des WWF (siehe Weblinks) bietet Unternehmen in einigen Staaten an, die Organisation zu unterstützen und dafür mit dem Namen und dem Logo des WWF werben zu dürfen. Zurzeit arbeitet der WWF unter anderem mit Coca-Cola, Nokia und Canon zusammen.

Prinz Bernhard der Niederlande – erster Präsident des WWF International, Prinzgemahl von Juliana von Oranien-Nassau, Königin der Niederlande

Work with business

WWF has been accused by a number of environmental groups and campaigners, such as Corporate Watch and PR Watch of being too close to businesses to campaign objectively.[21][22] WWF says that it works with companies to help them reduce their impact on the environment. Examples of companies with which it has such partnerships include Coca-Cola, Lafarge and IKEA.[23] It also has a Corporate Club that provides promotional opportunities for companies to use the WWF name and logo as a promotional tool.

Previous donors have included Chevron, Exxon and Telekids (each donating more than $50,000 in 1989), Philip Morris, Mobil, and Morgan Guaranty Trust.[citation needed] WWF received about $7 million from corporations in 2007, about 4.3% of its revenues for the year.[24] @wiki

Years Name
1962–1976 HRH Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld
1976–1981 John H. Loudon
1981–1996 HRH Prince Philip of Great-Britain, Duke of Edinburgh
1996–1999 Syed Babar Ali
2000 Ruud Lubbers
2000–2001 Hon. Sara Morrison
2001–2010 Chief Emeka Anyaoku
from 2010 Yolanda Kakabadse
[edit] 1001 Club
Main article: 1001 Club

In the early 1970s, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands and Prince Philip of the United Kingdom, together with a few associates, set up the 1001 Nature Trust, its purpose being to cover the administrative and fund-raising aspects of the WWF. The club garnered 1001 members who each contributed $10,000 to the trust.[12]

BTW, the main site on the XIb has been scrubbed fro the wayback machine.

http://www.mallofmaine.com/uboat.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.mallofmaine.com/uboat.htm

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porridge
14-04-2011, 03:10 PM
Obviously not old enough.
No North pole involvement evident. :rolleyes::p

Seriously tho, I have heard that one along time ago from my inner earth research:p ..is serious stuff!

Hitler sure went off somewhere, this i'm sure most would agree with, no way was he in that bunker.

tinyint
14-04-2011, 03:28 PM
Seriously tho, I have heard that one along time ago from my inner earth research:p ..is serious stuff!

Hitler sure went off somewhere, this i'm sure most would agree with, no way was he in that bunker.

Well, yes, most likely that, since Stalin was convinced he was alive.
Soviet investigation"myth" started in 1947, and again an unofficial one in 1961, iirc.
1947 was also the year of Operation Highjump and Roswell.

Anyway, this uboat topic here is not connected with his alleged escape, nor with Antarctica.

firepoet
14-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Well, yes, most likely that, since Stalin was convinced he was alive.
Soviet investigation"myth" started in 1947, and again an unofficial one in 1961, iirc.
1947 was also the year of Operation Highjump and Roswell.

Anyway, this uboat topic here is not connected with his alleged escape, nor with Antarctica.

Wonder how much gold is in that sub?

orage
14-04-2011, 03:47 PM
All this info is from 1997, anything updated? Did the boat get raised or further investigated?

Bernhardt's WWF donor list has many of the old Standard Oil - IG Farben cartels spin-offs, Exxon, Mobil etc. Rock a fella.


GERMAN U-BOAT "SPECIAL MISSIONS" - 1944 PUBLIC RECORD



August 20 U1229 sunk by Air attack SE Newfoundland enroute to U.S. coast. 40 crew captured plus spy Oscar Mantel.

August 25 XIB sunk off Cape Cod by air attack. Lost with all hands.

November -Two German spies landed on Maine coast via U-boat insertion. Special agents of the FBI capture both within 60 days.

TRIDENT RESEARCH & RECOVERY CHRONOLOGY

Summer 1941 Chief Petty Officer Robert Marr, U. S. Coast Guard,
Shows submarine wreck to Petty Officer Ronald Baker

September 1988 Ed Michaud told of Submarine wreck by tug Captain Warren LeGyte

June 5, 1993 Paul Machias on behalf of Ed Michaud conducts side scan sonar search revealing vessel on Orion Shoal

November 1994 E.E.&G. scan reveals unique XIB gun mounts

December 27, 1994 Ed Michaud conducts exploratory dive on Orion Shoal. Confirms XIB Submarine structure and bomb blast hole. Recovers small debris / artifacts from scour channel.

March 27, 1995 Trident Research & Recovery, Inc formed

June 26, 1995 Trident Research awarded Admiralty Claim to submarine wreck on Orion Shoal believes to be German XIB.

December 9, 1995 Second side scan sonar image obtained with superior technology (E.G.&G.). LOA, Beam determined http://www.subsearesearch.com/chronology.htm

tinyint
14-04-2011, 03:55 PM
Wonder how much gold is in that sub?

Yes, we again come across the missing gold.

That certainly remains a big mystery.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1058517492

The US have ordered a deal post WWII, which the west German "Govt" signed(had to), the so called "Kanzlerakte". Basically, every German Chancellor has to sign a paper, where he generally commits high treason to the German people.

Of course, the criminal establishment always cries wolf, hoax etc... but effectively it is pointless to deny to undeniable..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PZnvgQoWvQw/SPva2V-VyDI/AAAAAAAABZs/n1c4qormDr4/s1600/kanzlerakte.jpg

Point 1:
-supreme media control is to be executed by the occupiers until 2099
Point 2:
-the Kanzlerakte has to be signed by any German chancellor before he becomes inaugurated(that is why the Chancellors always travel to US before inauguration)
Point 3:
-all gold reserves of the former FRG have been confiscated by the US

So, the confiscated gold serve as guarantee for US troops and nukes, as one reason.
The other is the missing peace treaty.

firepoet
14-04-2011, 04:19 PM
Yes, we again come across the missing gold.

That certainly remains a big mystery.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1058517492

The US have ordered a deal post WWII, which the west German "Govt" signed(had to), the so called "Kanzlerakte". Basically, every German Chancellor has to sign a paper, where he generally commits high treason to the German people.

Of course, the criminal establishment always cries wolf, hoax etc... but effectively it is pointless to deny to undeniable..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PZnvgQoWvQw/SPva2V-VyDI/AAAAAAAABZs/n1c4qormDr4/s1600/kanzlerakte.jpg

Point 1:
-supreme media control is to be executed by the occupiers until 2099
Point 2:
-the Kanzlerakte has to be signed by any German chancellor before he becomes inaugurated(that is why the Chancellors always travel to US before inauguration)
Point 3:
-all gold reserves of the former FRG have been confiscated by the US

So, the confiscated gold serve as guarantee for US troops and nukes, as one reason.
The other is the missing peace treaty.

On the day that XI-B U-Boat was sunk "One of the most obvious details that stand out is the sudden departure from Chatham of Princess Juliana and her royal attendants on the morning of the 26th. of August, 1944, only hours after the known destruction of the Type XI fourteen miles to the southeast. This, combined with a published news report in the local Cape Cod Times for that date, quote the Princess as opening a short public statement upon her departure, stating: "I will not talk about anything political and cannot take questions". She goes on to say how the Royal Family enjoyed their stay at the Chatham Bars Inn, etc."

"Prince Consort Bernhardt was employed prior to, during, and after the war by I.G.Farben's Industrial Espionage Unit "NW-7" which, needless to say, placed him under great suspicions by both the British and American intelligence communities. The mere fact of his employment as an "industrial spy" for Farben places him squarely within the sphere of the German Industrial community, links for which have already been established with the Type XI-B U-Boat."

Prince Bernhardt was cleared by Ian Flemming (James Bond) to work for British Intelligence.

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/warfare-military/138-efforts-raise-super-secret-nazi-u-boat-off-cape-cod.html

tinyint
14-04-2011, 10:43 PM
Prince Bernhardt was cleared by Ian Flemming (James Bond) to work for British Intelligence.



http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=102619&page=6

firepoet
14-04-2011, 11:02 PM
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=102619&page=6

Cheers for the link tiny, some good information there.