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domathy
05-04-2011, 04:06 PM
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gnosis_dub
06-04-2011, 04:13 AM
Nice info there.
Some more alkaline tips:
Lemon and watermelon have an alkaline pH of 9.0
Cayenne Pepper has a pH balance of 8.5
More Extremely Alkaline Forming Foods:
Baking soda
Sea salt
Lentils
taro root
Dried dates and figs.
Kelp and other sea vegs., Agar
Grapes
Watercress
Parsley
Mango, Papaya
Coconut
Pineapple
Apples
Bananas
Oranges
Carrots
Onions
Kiwi
Moderately Alkaline -apple cider vinegar,
jconnar
06-04-2011, 04:40 AM
Lemons!!!!! Fantastic, fresh lemon juice is warm water. Even better, plant your own lemon tree.
My secret formula. Green Tea, Hot water, grated garlic clove, grated ginger, finely chopped parsley, juice of one lemon.
domathy
06-04-2011, 07:48 AM
Nice info there.
Some more alkaline tips:
Lemon and watermelon have an alkaline pH of 9.0
Cayenne Pepper has a pH balance of 8.5
More Extremely Alkaline Forming Foods:
Baking soda (use bicarb from a pharmacy - bp grade - baking soda from supermarkets can be tainted)
Sea salt - (use himalayan salt - salt from open mines or the sea is polluted)
Lentils
taro rootDried dates and figs.
Kelp and other sea vegs., Agar
Grapes
WatercressParsleyMango, Papaya
Coconut (baby coconut)Pineapple
Apples
Bananas
Oranges
CarrotsOnions
Kiwi
Moderately Alkaline -apple cider vinegar,
The tradiditonal method of testing pH is flawed. THey take the food and incinerate it - then thest the ash for mineral content.
Fruit has alkaline minerals - but is very, very high in sugar. Sugar acidifys the body no least because it is like rocket fuel for yeasy/candidia. But all the sugar is burned with the ash method so not taken into account.
Cider vinegar may have an alklaine pH but is totally proton saturated so drains your electron/energy reserves. If someone had a really clogged colon. it acts a bit like darino so they get perceived health benefits - in the long run you just burn health tissue and drain energy. There are better ways such as using magnesuim oxide to cleanse the colon.
The ones I highlight green I would agree with though. Fruit is hybridised to have more sugar, even carrots are mush sweeter than they used to be.
Thanks for your reply :D
domathy
06-04-2011, 07:49 AM
Lemons!!!!! Fantastic, fresh lemon juice is warm water. Even better, plant your own lemon tree.
My secret formula. Green Tea, Hot water, grated garlic clove, grated ginger, finely chopped parsley, juice of one lemon.
Lemons are very alkalizing. Only use ripe lemons though. :D
herbes
06-04-2011, 07:56 AM
great information there thanks for posting i have sen it on to a few of the family as they never listen to me
curtaincat
06-04-2011, 03:53 PM
I am so dead now.
Unless I find some lemons.
Jesus suffering fuck, i think we are all totally fucked.
How come we are still alive??
this whole post is madness, scaring people to death, :eek:
domathy
06-04-2011, 06:46 PM
I am so dead now.
Unless I find some lemons.
Jesus suffering fuck, i think we are all totally fucked.
How come we are still alive??
this whole post is madness, scaring people to death, :eek:
No, the body can take a lot of abuse, I didnt eat veg till past 20 and spent my teens on drugs - the body has fantastic capaicity to regenerate. THe thread address why people get sick - therefore it is empowering. If someone is not sick they can use the info to get rediculous ammounts of energy for life and exercise etc.
domathy
06-04-2011, 08:07 PM
I am so dead now.
Unless I find some lemons.
Jesus suffering fuck, i think we are all totally fucked.
How come we are still alive??
this whole post is madness, scaring people to death, :eek:
I used the above info to cure chronic fatigue, heamophilia, thrombophelia and a bunch of other stuff. I have been sharing this info with 1000's of people over the past 7 years and I promise you it works. It is important, as you point out, not to get scared, freaked out or take it out of context. The body can survive on most diets and people can collect a number of symptoms and still drag their body out of bed in the morning.
Just don't get stressed about things (ie worrying about too much acid) - as stress causes more acid than diet.
originn
07-04-2011, 12:56 PM
Domathy can you please provide us the original link so we can see the pictures?
Thank you.
jconnar
07-04-2011, 01:10 PM
I am so dead now.
Unless I find some lemons.
Jesus suffering fuck, i think we are all totally fucked.
How come we are still alive??
this whole post is madness, scaring people to death, :eek:
Get this Cat some lemons Stat.
http://vampjac.com/lj/humor/lolcat/2008/lemon.jpg
curtaincat
07-04-2011, 02:56 PM
OK, now I have read the whole thread again..
and i got lemons from a neighbour, real home grown lemons, not supermarket fakes.
super pleased, and will be trying them with water first ting in morning. I think that is wot u sposed to do?
Any hints of lemons would be appreciated, folks. :)
I finally got some real lemons, wow! :cool:
Ty OP, great thread! ( soz about being freaked out, that is just me) :o
curtaincat
07-04-2011, 02:58 PM
Get this Cat some lemons Stat.
http://vampjac.com/lj/humor/lolcat/2008/lemon.jpg
lol, cute :):D
curtaincat
07-04-2011, 03:07 PM
yes, just read it again for the 3rd or 4th time.
ty jconnar for the recipe - is it to be taken every day? Cos i can get all that stuff and do that. Is it a daily thing?
to OP. Have you got any info on Himalayan Salt? I would love to know more ...
I am really getting into this thread, thanks :cool::)
domathy
07-04-2011, 03:23 PM
yes, just read it again for the 3rd or 4th time.
ty jconnar for the recipe - is it to be taken every day? Cos i can get all that stuff and do that. Is it a daily thing?
to OP. Have you got any info on Himalayan Salt? I would love to know more ...
I am really getting into this thread, thanks :cool::)
Thanks for your interest, yes,am busy on skype for the next hour or so, I will do my very best to answer any questions and also will try to include the missing pictures somehow :D
curtaincat
07-04-2011, 03:27 PM
Thanks for your interest, yes,am busy on skype for the next hour or so, I will do my very best to answer any questions and also will try to include the missing pictures somehow :D
Thanks very much, i have to go to bed soon anyway, so pls do not hurry on my account!
Plenty of time :)
I will look again tomorrow. No worries, I am really pleased with this thread. I think it is wat i need, alkalising.
And I have me lemons, wow! Real lemons, not suprmarket crap wiv no juice.
ty :cool:
domathy
07-04-2011, 06:04 PM
Thanks very much, i have to go to bed soon anyway, so pls do not hurry on my account!
Plenty of time :)
I will look again tomorrow. No worries, I am really pleased with this thread. I think it is wat i need, alkalising.
And I have me lemons, wow! Real lemons, not suprmarket crap wiv no juice.
ty :cool:
Lemons are great, so just squeeze the juice into water and drink. I've never even seen a non-supermarket lemon so you got an advantage already. Sodium bibarbonate is a very very effctive way to alkalize your body. Start with say, a quarter of a tespoon in a glass of water then build up. normally I put at 2 teaspoons in a litre of water. Chlorophyll is really important too, and there some brilliant alkalizing green drinks around - If you PM me I can point you in the right direction- maybe not to my own site as I dont think advertising is allowed here so I will check on the sies policy here. But just by doing lemon & bicarb (not together in same glass as will fizz I think) you can really get a lot of acid out of your body and eat lots of green veg.
harvie316
07-04-2011, 11:06 PM
cliffs on OP sorry :$
jconnar
08-04-2011, 01:13 AM
yes, just read it again for the 3rd or 4th time.
ty jconnar for the recipe - is it to be taken every day? Cos i can get all that stuff and do that. Is it a daily thing?
to OP. Have you got any info on Himalayan Salt? I would love to know more ...
I am really getting into this thread, thanks :cool::)
curtaincat I make that because I'm weird, the taste is not for the faint hearted. Don't take it too seriously, although I think it helps, but have nothing to back that up with.
I would say start off with just Green Tea, try and get the proper stuff from an Asian Grocery store if you can find one.
Its probably better to cut out the acid forming foods first. If 90% of the diet is acid forming, then the Green tea is not going to do that much. Try for a week to eat alkaline forming foods, and see how you go. Much better to have the majority of your food alkaline forming compared to majority acid forming but then have a few lemons, green tea etc.
domathy
08-04-2011, 12:14 PM
OKay, here is the article but with pictures included!
http://www.scribd.com/full/52580467?access_key=key-2aaemk8bozoabwfqcoaa
domathy
08-04-2011, 12:29 PM
Thanks to all who are contributing. I think I will start a new thread with the article including pictures this time.
domathy
08-04-2011, 12:33 PM
As requested I am now posting the alkalizing article again - this time with pictures. If you have any questions about anything discussed here then just ask. If you have a question about a specific health problem then feel free to Private message me - I am a trained nutritional blood microscopist (since 2003) so know this subject inside and out and I am more than happy to help.
]This article is posted on the scribd website - in case you are not special with computers - to enlarge to text you need to right-click the mouse and press the zoom option 3 or 4 times until you can clearly see the writing.]
http://www.scribd.com/full/52580467?access_key=key-2aaemk8bozoabwfqcoaa
(again please forgive any grammar or other details - this article is all my own work and has not been edited and is not 100% complete - that said, I think it explains the fundamentals of the subject quite well)
Is that your article? You wrote it?
domathy
08-04-2011, 12:43 PM
Is that your article? You wrote it?
Yes I wrote it. I am a nutritional blood microscopist and trained 8 years ago so know the subject well. But this is the first time I've tried to really condense all this info into a way that its really approachable for people. Any feedback would be very much appreciated.
lizzy
08-04-2011, 12:51 PM
hello domathy.........I have bookmarked your article.......it makes sense to me.....I had a good diet until I got totally side tracked into nwo research, which has burnt me out , along with other of life's challenges, It's time to get back on track while we still have some totally un-radiated food to eat.
We need to be strong and healthy for what awaits us.
Thankyou.;)
domathy
08-04-2011, 12:57 PM
hello domathy.........I have bookmarked your article.......it makes sense to me.....I had a good diet until I got totally side tracked into nwo research, which has burnt me out , along with other of life's challenges, It's time to get back on track while we still have some totally un-radiated food to eat.
We need to be strong and healthy for what awaits us.
Thankyou.;)
Your'e welcome. The NWO research can maybe be acidic too sometimes :D
But - yes its a good idea to be as healthy as poss now as it means you can be more flexible in times ahead.
domathy
08-04-2011, 01:02 PM
Lemons!!!!! Fantastic, fresh lemon juice is warm water. Even better, plant your own lemon tree.
My secret formula. Green Tea, Hot water, grated garlic clove, grated ginger, finely chopped parsley, juice of one lemon.
If that works then I won't knock it - but in the long run, as I understand it, even green tea is harmful to the small intestine. Its fine to drink it for pleasure, and much better than reg tea/coffee - but I would not say its a health drink. Also garlic can be a bit irritating to the gut wall. But thats the joy of nutrition - no one agrees on everything. We have to find what works for us :D
domathy
08-04-2011, 01:03 PM
The tradiditonal method of testing pH is flawed. THey take the food and incinerate it - then thest the ash for mineral content.
Fruit has alkaline minerals - but is very, very high in sugar. Sugar acidifys the body no least because it is like rocket fuel for yeasy/candidia. But all the sugar is burned with the ash method so not taken into account.
Cider vinegar may have an alklaine pH but is totally proton saturated so drains your electron/energy reserves. If someone had a really clogged colon. it acts a bit like darino so they get perceived health benefits - in the long run you just burn health tissue and drain energy. There are better ways such as using magnesuim oxide to cleanse the colon.
The ones I highlight green I would agree with though. Fruit is hybridised to have more sugar, even carrots are mush sweeter than they used to be.
Thanks for your reply :D
I meant to say cider vinegar acts like 'Draino' (the drain unblocker people use in their homes)
domathy
08-04-2011, 01:09 PM
yes, just read it again for the 3rd or 4th time.
ty jconnar for the recipe - is it to be taken every day? Cos i can get all that stuff and do that. Is it a daily thing?
to OP. Have you got any info on Himalayan Salt? I would love to know more ...
I am really getting into this thread, thanks :cool::)
(where you see pHlavour mentioned, it refers to a brand - I reccoment www.realsalt.com or any good pink salt you can find)
Herds of elephants risk injury and death in a perilous journey to hidden salt caves where
they supplement their sodium deficient diets.
Our pets also suffer from sodium deficiency. Farmers place salt-blocks on their pasture so that their livestock and all other animals can lick the salt to their heart's content.
An abundance of the ingredients in unrefined liquid pHlavor salt are as synonymous with life today as they were a billion years ago before single cells appeared here.
Lack of salt is synonymous with birth defects, organ failure, decay, dis-ease, premature aging and death at a young age.
Long before the earth knew pollutants of any kind, a huge, ancient sea covered what is now North America.
Pure, natural salt was the main ingredient of this sea, and over millions of years, the water in the sea evaporated, leaving the salt in undisturbed deposits - like the Great Salt
Lake where we farm pHlavor liquid salt.
In her marvellous book, Wild Health: How Animals Keep. Themselves Well and What We Can Learn From Them, Cindy Engles, Ph.D. documents that for millennia, humans have observed animals in the wild eating plants and minerals and applying naturally occurring topical anti-acids or anti-toxins from the same sources to combat wounds, parasites and internal disorders.
Herds of elephants risk injury and death in a perilous journey to hidden salt caves where they supplement their sodium deficient diets.
Monkeys rub poisonous millipedes on their fur to repel biting, dis-ease-carrying insects. Birds line their nests with parasite-resistant herbs.
Engel details a world where nature is the pharmacy and every animal is its own practitioner.
Alert: don't supplement your diet or your animal's diet with sodium chloride (common table salt); all of the other beneficial elements have been removed. Humans and
animals need unrefined, unprocessed real salt, like pHlavor liquid sea salt.
Major producing companies dry their salt in huge kilns with temperatures reaching 1200 degrees F, changing the salt's chemical structure, which in turn adversely affects the human or animal body.
Avoid the common refined table salt.
For the right kind of salt go to:
Humans and domesticated animals need the right kind of salt - liquid pHlavor salt with all of its naturally occuring minerals.
One way to provide salt to your animal (you can also do this for yourself) is to provide two separate water bowls (or two separate polycarbonate 1 liter bottles for humans).
One bowl (or bottle) with real-unrefined-unheated-natural-liquid pHlavor sea salt and one bowl (one bottle) without salt, so that the animals (you) can consume as much salt as
they (you) require.
They (you) will drink from the bowl (bottle) that contains liquid pHlavor salted water, however once they (you) have had enough salt, they (you) will drink from the bowl (bottle) that has plain water.
armoured_amazon
08-04-2011, 01:10 PM
Subbed to read properly tonight.
domathy
08-04-2011, 01:14 PM
curtaincat I make that because I'm weird, the taste is not for the faint hearted. Don't take it too seriously, although I think it helps, but have nothing to back that up with.
I would say start off with just Green Tea, try and get the proper stuff from an Asian Grocery store if you can find one.
Its probably better to cut out the acid forming foods first. If 90% of the diet is acid forming, then the Green tea is not going to do that much. Try for a week to eat alkaline forming foods, and see how you go. Much better to have the majority of your food alkaline forming compared to majority acid forming but then have a few lemons, green tea etc.
True, but bicarb and lemon will really speed progress.
curtaincat
08-04-2011, 01:39 PM
Hi Domathy, I just logged in, just as your 2 threads were being merged and got a weird notice... about it not existing, but i found it now , lolz :)
thanks heaps, i am gonna get right into the green vegies stuff asap.
A few questions from me, if u dont mind, please.
Q1 .... do you have any advice about green smoothies ~ ie made in a blender... is it ok to heat them up in winter ( as to make a soup?)
what about using a microwave?
Q2.... I bought some Himalayan pink salt. the brand is called Karom Himalayan Crystalsalt, granular. 100%.
product of Pakistan : Analysis = Sodium chloride 98.85%
Calcium as CaCl2 0.36%
Magnesium 0.39%
Iron 0.001%
Sulphate as Na2SO4 0.15%
Iodine present @ <0.01%
... it cost $7.00 for 250gram net.
Tastes nice. so it would be good if i chucked out my old salt and just used this stuff?
Q3.... I thought that Braggs Organic Apple Cider Vinegar is supposed to be good but ... your article suggests otherwise... confused.
No hurry to answer.
thanks very much for your Thread . Very informative. :cool:
curtaincat
08-04-2011, 01:45 PM
curtaincat I make that because I'm weird, the taste is not for the faint hearted. Don't take it too seriously, although I think it helps, but have nothing to back that up with.
I would say start off with just Green Tea, try and get the proper stuff from an Asian Grocery store if you can find one.
Its probably better to cut out the acid forming foods first. If 90% of the diet is acid forming, then the Green tea is not going to do that much. Try for a week to eat alkaline forming foods, and see how you go. Much better to have the majority of your food alkaline forming compared to majority acid forming but then have a few lemons, green tea etc.
Thanks jconnar, and I will try to get some Asian Grocery Store Green Tea, we have lots of Asian grocery stores in the market in town. I just need to get into town more often.
I will try it, and i bet it is better than the supermarket commercial brands. thanks matey ! :)
jconnar
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
Thanks jconnar, and I will try to get some Asian Grocery Store Green Tea, we have lots of Asian grocery stores in the market in town. I just need to get into town more often.
I will try it, and i bet it is better than the supermarket commercial brands. thanks matey ! :)
Yes the supermarket green teas tastes so different from the proper Asian green tea you get at the Asian grocery stores.
curtaincat
08-04-2011, 02:13 PM
Yes the supermarket green teas tastes so different from the proper Asian green tea you get at the Asian grocery stores.
I will definitely get some of the real stuff then. :cool:
And to any MODS that are reading this, how come we suddenly got a spell-checker in our posts? Cos that is a great idea!!! It helped me spell "definitely", lol, I had accidently spelt it as 'definately'.
Now, it is hassling my 'accidently' so that is obviously wrong, and so is my 'spelt' LOL.
It doesn't like 'lol' , either, LOL !!!
The spell-checker is helpful, ty to whoever decided to put it in. Sometimes i actually use it, sweet! :D
Yes I wrote it. I am a nutritional blood microscopist and trained 8 years ago so know the subject well. But this is the first time I've tried to really condense all this info into a way that its really approachable for people. Any feedback would be very much appreciated.
Amazing
domathy
08-04-2011, 03:08 PM
Amazing
Thanks - I'm just really glad other people can make sense of what I wrote as it is a condensed version of a much larger volume of research. I appreciate the feedback :D
sephera
08-04-2011, 03:18 PM
I only drink filtered alkaline water. I believe acidity also cause cancer and a myriad of other diseases.
domathy
08-04-2011, 03:24 PM
Hi Domathy, I just logged in, just as your 2 threads were being merged and got a weird notice... about it not existing, but i found it now , lolz :)
thanks heaps, i am gonna get right into the green vegies stuff asap.
A few questions from me, if u dont mind, please.
Q1 .... do you have any advice about green smoothies ~ ie made in a blender... is it ok to heat them up in winter ( as to make a soup?)
what about using a microwave?
Q2.... I bought some Himalayan pink salt. the brand is called Karom Himalayan Crystalsalt, granular. 100%.
product of Pakistan : Analysis = Sodium chloride 98.85%
Calcium as CaCl2 0.36%
Magnesium 0.39%
Iron 0.001%
Sulphate as Na2SO4 0.15%
Iodine present @ <0.01%
... it cost $7.00 for 250gram net.
Tastes nice. so it would be good if i chucked out my old salt and just used this stuff?
Q3.... I thought that Braggs Organic Apple Cider Vinegar is supposed to be good but ... your article suggests otherwise... confused.
No hurry to answer.
thanks very much for your Thread . Very informative. :cool:
1)Greens smoothies are great. I'll get back to you with a link, my friends got a great raw food website but I can't find the link - loads of smoothies on there.
Soup is good raw/warm:
Heat some mixed veg in a pan till it goes tender, using just enough water to cover the veg - I add cinamon and salt too (goes well with carrot and most veg). Add things like asparagus, tomato etc last as it cooks faster.
Put in some avocado, blend to a creamy consistency - then serve. I will be putting more recipes together.
2) This info is from their website - looks good to me:
Karom Himalayan Crystalsalt is sourced from the Salt Range in NW Province of Pakistan which is a southern extension of an ancient, weathered fold-mountain type chain of the Western Himalayan Mountains.
It is recovered from seams erupting from strata laid down over 200 million years ago.
Karom Himalayan Crystalsalt contains 84 of the 92 elements naturally occurring in Earth.
This is considerably more mineral availability than common sea-salt, which typically contains 54 elements.
What makes Karom Himalayan Crystalsalt most effective as a provider of mineral nourishment is the aeons of time during which it was formed. This process of maturation under compression allowed abundant time for the rich mineralization of what was originally sea-salt by its surrounding matrix of rock. Himalayan Crystalsalt is effectively super-charged sea salt without the threat of pollution from compromised sea water.
Thus the nervous system as well as the body cells benefit from a full spectrum infusion of rarely available elements
3) Re braggs:
It is slightly acidic, not alkalizing. This is to be used as a substitute for soy, but you still need to use it in moderation. (now that you know salt is good for you, you can use salt for flavour where poss - try a dressing made with salt, lemon, cold pressed oil.)
I'll get back to you with that link :D
domathy
08-04-2011, 03:26 PM
I only drink filtered alkaline water. I believe acidity also cause cancer and a myriad of other diseases.
Yes, cancer can only exist in an acidic terrain - and same applies to all other diseases. Do you use a water ionizer?
domathy
08-04-2011, 03:28 PM
For anyone wanting to drink better quality water - then I really rate this product. Its very cheap too.
http://www.panosun.org/AVE-S1.html
Long story short, water holds memory - even if its been filtered. When you put water through a vortex it erases the memory of what the water has been in contact with.
domathy
08-04-2011, 03:38 PM
:
Okay here's that link:
www.vitalitycircle.com
Yes, cancer can only exist in an alkaline terrain - and same applies to all other diseases. Do you use a water ionizer?
You mean acid?
sephera
08-04-2011, 05:20 PM
Yes, cancer can only exist in an alkaline terrain - and same applies to all other diseases. Do you use a water ionizer?
Not yet, that Aqua vortex device is similar to the Grander water penergizer
http://www.grander.com.au/
I have a device that is suppose to ionise the whole house.
gnosis_dub
08-04-2011, 05:32 PM
More valuable High Alkaline Foods
Raw organic Goji Berry soaked in water - Drink the Soaked Water :0 (Gojis are soaked in water overnight)
Wheat & barley grass
Organic Bee Pollen
Raw organic cocoa nibs
Magnesium rich foods (Magnesium oil)
Alkaline Ash Foods
Edible Green Clay
Zeolite
avocado
raw organic almonds soaked in water overnight
Gotu Kola herb
Stevia
Olive Oil
:)
naju89
08-04-2011, 06:20 PM
Lemons are great, so just squeeze the juice into water and drink. I've never even seen a non-supermarket lemon so you got an advantage already. Sodium bibarbonate is a very very effctive way to alkalize your body. Start with say, a quarter of a tespoon in a glass of water then build up. normally I put at 2 teaspoons in a litre of water. Chlorophyll is really important too, and there some brilliant alkalizing green drinks around - If you PM me I can point you in the right direction- maybe not to my own site as I dont think advertising is allowed here so I will check on the sies policy here. But just by doing lemon & bicarb (not together in same glass as will fizz I think) you can really get a lot of acid out of your body and eat lots of green veg.
This may sound really dumb but is sodium bicarbonate the same as bicarbonate of soda that you use for baking etc? :) :confused:
domathy
08-04-2011, 06:20 PM
You mean acid?
Damn! yes - I mean acid terrain :eek: Thanks. phew, well spotted - I edited the post now....doing too many things at once.
domathy
08-04-2011, 06:29 PM
Not yet, that Aqua vortex device is similar to the Grander water penergizer
http://www.grander.com.au/
I have a device that is suppose to ionise the whole house.
Wow, you heard of grander :) I have used grander products before (penergizer, flexi unit, blue water), and although Grander products much more expensive (and have loads of great science evidence to back it up) I think the aqua vortex is almost as good for some reason. I have an ionizer now but still spin the water. My friend swears by the penergizer (though we both lost ours :() but maybe im not so sensitve to the more subtle effects.
Salt water, even after being distilled (ie now chemically pure) retains the memory of salt (you can see this in the molecular structure of the water under the microscope) so water retains memory of lots of stuff - even if its been filtered. When water reaches the center of the vortex, it spins on its axis and the memory is erased. I use green veg powder and other means to structure the water once it is a 'blank canvas'.
The grander products erase the memory then imprint with something positive.
Grander is proven in industrial applications hence why people take it so seriously and not dismissed as something esoteric - though scientist cant understand why his products work :rolleyes:
domathy
08-04-2011, 06:32 PM
Thank you, Domathy. :)
Most welcome :)
domathy
08-04-2011, 06:37 PM
This may sound really dumb but is sodium bicarbonate the same as bicarbonate of soda that you use for baking etc? :) :confused:
Not a dumb question - I still am not totally sure of the answer. I heard that baking soda is tainted with aluminium in the manufacturing process - or maybe there are anti-caking ingredients added/maybe aluinium added as an anti-caking ingredient? Will look into that.
Best to go for pharmaceutical grade (BP Grade) bicarb of soda.
But essentially the 2 are the same in function - but purity is the issue.
the reason 'gripe water' (for babies) and antacids are so effective is because of bicarb - which is the active ingredient.
domathy
08-04-2011, 06:39 PM
Just a note about lemons. They are acidic in their original pH - but the acids are very volatile and as soon as you eat/drink the acids vanish as vapour and you are left with lots of available oxygen (1/3 available oxygen) and also alkalizing minerals.
domathy
08-04-2011, 06:50 PM
More valuable High Alkaline Foods
Raw organic Goji Berry soaked in water - Drink the Soaked Water :0 (Gojis are soaked in water overnight)
Wheat & barley grass - fresh is good (dont buy freeze dried powders) if you buy a supplement wheatgrass it must be low heat dehydrated)
Organic Bee Pollen
Raw organic cocoa nibs - better than chocolate which is fermented, but still contains theobromine and still an acidic overall pH. Still good though
Magnesium rich foods (Magnesium oil) - the best way to addrss magnesium deficiency is using magnesium oil on the skin. You can only digest so much mag before you get diorrea - wheras can absorb loads through the skin.
Alkaline Ash Foods - Yes
Edible Green Clay - I need to do a whole thread on clay, it really is magic (not just green clay though)
Zeolite - great for getting heavy metals out the body, cures many hard to cure illnesses ie bi-polar and more
avocado - yes and yes again. Fibre, clean source of calories, minerals, electrons
raw organic almonds soaked in water overnight - not everyone knows they need to be soaked...they need to be peeled too. pour boiling water over to loosen skin. scrape off any mold/brown spots on the white exterior of the almond, use a knife to do this. (they can get the odd mold spot when stored)
Gotu Kola herb
Stevia - now banned by the EU i heard?? but yes, good to use.
Olive Oil - yes:)
Thats a very good list! (the green writing is what i added to your list)
Why should the almonds be soaked in water?:confused:
domathy
08-04-2011, 09:32 PM
Why should the almonds be soaked in water?:confused:
Nuts/seeds contain chemicals to prevent them being digested. Its so birds/animals eat them and swallow whole sometimes (its a numbers game) - then poop them out whole/undigested, in a different location, ready to grow a new plant. Thats how plant species spread.
Soaking tricks the nut into thinking it is planted in soil in the rainy season and it releases chems that keep it dormant.
So soak almonds in fridge, throw away soak water - as thats where these chemicals/substances are released and top up with fresh water if you want to store some almonds in fridge ie if you dont eat them all. Soak water is good for houseplants btw.
1 part almonds to 3 parts water when soaking.
eating raw, unsoaked almonds really stresses digestion as your body tries to digest something un digestible. Almond skins are a bit poisonous hence peeling.
Its better in the long run to soak whenever poss :D
jimj_wpg
08-04-2011, 09:50 PM
I will definitely get some of the real stuff then. :cool:
And to any MODS that are reading this, how come we suddenly got a spell-checker in our posts? Cos that is a great idea!!! It helped me spell "definitely", lol, I had accidently spelt it as 'definately'.
Now, it is hassling my 'accidently' so that is obviously wrong, and so is my 'spelt' LOL.
It doesn't like 'lol' , either, LOL !!!
The spell-checker is helpful, ty to whoever decided to put it in. Sometimes i actually use it, sweet! :D
Maybe some1 at your home installed a spell cheker in your web browser like FIrfox. :D
BTW, I like your cat avatar. My orange tabby used to climb my parka sitting on my coatrack when he was a kitten.
curtaincat
09-04-2011, 03:22 PM
Maybe some1 at your home installed a spell cheker in your web browser like FIrfox. :D
BTW, I like your cat avatar. My orange tabby used to climb my parka sitting on my coatrack when he was a kitten.
ty for that info , jimi, that must be it... my firefox updated itself or something.:D
Glad u like my avatar, cats are so cute and funny! I like your cute avatar too :):cool:
curtaincat
09-04-2011, 03:33 PM
Domathy,
what u said about magnesium being absorbed by the skin - I got some "Magnesium Miracle Soak" , to soak my tooties in about once a week. It is natural Epsom Salts.
The blurb on the pack says that a lot of Epsom salts available nowadays are chemically manufactured :eek: , but this is real. Pretty amazing info I keep discovering everyday.
the website for this product is powerbodycare.com
( i haven't checked them out yet)
but since you said it is better absorbed by the skin, i have done the right thing, i think.
I am slowly getting there. Too scared to do a major detox... i am doing everything slowly but surely like the tortoise.
I also now brush me teeth with baking soda.. I will have to find out if it is the best kind. ( it is from a supermarket, usually used in baking and cooking).
but taking this all slowly and not rushing.
I am reading all your posts over again. ( in my bookmarks).
this info from you is brilliant.
Going into Columbo mode here ~ just one more question.
About fungas things.
So mushrooms are not good 4 u, neither is yeast products?
What a pity, cos i love mushrooms, raw or cooked, and i love marmite/vegemite type of spreads. They always tell you those products are full of B Vitamins and are very nutritious.
So... no more fungus or yeast :( ?
domathy
09-04-2011, 07:11 PM
Domathy,
what u said about magnesium being absorbed by the skin - I got some "Magnesium Miracle Soak" , to soak my tooties in about once a week. It is natural Epsom Salts.
The blurb on the pack says that a lot of Epsom salts available nowadays are chemically manufactured :eek: , but this is real. Pretty amazing info I keep discovering everyday.
the website for this product is powerbodycare.com
( i haven't checked them out yet)
but since you said it is better absorbed by the skin, i have done the right thing, i think.
I am slowly getting there. Too scared to do a major detox... i am doing everything slowly but surely like the tortoise.
I also now brush me teeth with baking soda.. I will have to find out if it is the best kind. ( it is from a supermarket, usually used in baking and cooking).
but taking this all slowly and not rushing.
I am reading all your posts over again. ( in my bookmarks).
this info from you is brilliant.
Going into Columbo mode here ~ just one more question.
About fungas things.
So mushrooms are not good 4 u, neither is yeast products?
What a pity, cos i love mushrooms, raw or cooked, and i love marmite/vegemite type of spreads. They always tell you those products are full of B Vitamins and are very nutritious.
So... no more fungus or yeast :( ?
Hi Curtaincat,
Great work with the magnesium - will look at that site, thanks for the heads-up.
Im pretty sure most of the stuff of the market is good to use though. Bathing and/or footbaths are a great way to absorb mag, and really soothes the nervous system, be sure to hydrate/drink water during and after the foot soak.
The tortiose approach works very well in the long run - is normally the best approach :D then when you do decide on a detox your body will be more prepared and less of a shock to the system.
Baking soda is fine for brushing teeth with, some say its abrasive but I used it for ages with no problems - but now I use clay and really like it. I saw a dentist for the 1st time in 10 yrs and she was stunned at the health of my mouth.
Yeast & fungus best to reduce/eliminate - when your gut is healthy, your intestinal flora will produce plenty of B-vits (these companies always isolate the good aspects of their product ie choc has antioxidants - never mind sugar and acid and dairy :rolleyes:)
curtaincat
10-04-2011, 04:55 PM
Domathy
I am looking forward to your thread on CLAY ... I know nothing about it, should be interesting!
Wondering if i could eat dirt? yikes! The soil here is very heavy clay... i dunno if that is the same thing.
The CLAY thread interests me, especially if it is to do with teeth cleaning/re-mineralising, type of thing. :D the big grin is for the teeth, lol. :)
domathy
11-04-2011, 02:22 PM
Domathy
I am looking forward to your thread on CLAY ... I know nothing about it, should be interesting!
Wondering if i could eat dirt? yikes! The soil here is very heavy clay... i dunno if that is the same thing.
The CLAY thread interests me, especially if it is to do with teeth cleaning/re-mineralising, type of thing. :D the big grin is for the teeth, lol. :)
Clay is great, so yes its good to eat dirt....just dont eat any old dirt ie random soil samples :eek:
Is good to eat and also for healing the mouth and brushing teeth. Remineralising requires a very committed approach though.
kernelpower
11-04-2011, 08:13 PM
good thread, what about alkalising mineral drops do you use them??
theoneandonly
11-04-2011, 11:24 PM
This is very interesting thanks for posting!
Is there a good list of alkaline and acidic foods?
blackisis
11-04-2011, 11:53 PM
Nice info there.
Some more alkaline tips:
Lemon and watermelon have an alkaline pH of 9.0
Cayenne Pepper has a pH balance of 8.5
More Extremely Alkaline Forming Foods:
Baking soda
Important - In the UK, this is sold as Bicarbonate of Soda and not to be confused with Baking powder. They are two entirely different things.
healingisfreedom
12-04-2011, 01:22 AM
Thank you very much Domanthy for this thread. I've been a huge fan of Dr Young's work for some time and sticking as closely as possible to the COWS program, and I believe these guidelines are the best I've found yet. I also think it's great that he is promoting the suppressed legacy of Antoine Bechamp, Claude Bernard, Gunther Enderlein etc.
I had Live Blood done last year and my blood was fairly mediocre, had quite a few microforms and clot fibrins. I was already vegan and eating a lot of wholefoods and thought I was doing pretty well. After that I ditched alcohol completely and cut down on sweet fruits and processed foods, and ramped up the greens, vegetables and good fats. I taught myself a whole lot of recipes that were raw AND alkalizing - raw soups, creative salads, dips, raw nut loaf, raw falafel, raw zucchini hummous, sprouted quinoa tabbouleh, taco chilli with nut "meat", etc. The possibilities are endless.
I just had another test a month ago and the difference in my blood cells was profound - no more clumping, very few microforms or fibrins!
I have been hoping for a while that more people on the David Icke forum and other "truther" circles would explore this wonderful program.
domathy
12-04-2011, 06:46 PM
good thread, what about alkalising mineral drops do you use them??
I use sodium bicarbonate as i'm pretty healthy and don't feel as much benefit from pH drops as I used to. But I do reccomend them for most people as they are very effective. The pH drops i think are best come from this company:
http://www.essanteworldwide.com/allaboutenergy
go to pH Nutrition - the drops are called supreme pH. The greens are also excellent.
domathy
12-04-2011, 06:47 PM
Important - In the UK, this is sold as Bicarbonate of Soda and not to be confused with Baking powder. They are two entirely different things.
Well spotted, though I did clarify that previously in this thread. I always suggest people use BP grade sodium bicarbonate from a pharmacy.
domathy
12-04-2011, 06:56 PM
Thank you very much Domanthy for this thread. I've been a huge fan of Dr Young's work for some time and sticking as closely as possible to the COWS program, and I believe these guidelines are the best I've found yet. I also think it's great that he is promoting the suppressed legacy of Antoine Bechamp, Claude Bernard, Gunther Enderlein etc.
I had Live Blood done last year and my blood was fairly mediocre, had quite a few microforms and clot fibrins. I was already vegan and eating a lot of wholefoods and thought I was doing pretty well. After that I ditched alcohol completely and cut down on sweet fruits and processed foods, and ramped up the greens, vegetables and good fats. I taught myself a whole lot of recipes that were raw AND alkalizing - raw soups, creative salads, dips, raw nut loaf, raw falafel, raw zucchini hummous, sprouted quinoa tabbouleh, taco chilli with nut "meat", etc. The possibilities are endless.
I just had another test a month ago and the difference in my blood cells was profound - no more clumping, very few microforms or fibrins!
I have been hoping for a while that more people on the David Icke forum and other "truther" circles would explore this wonderful program.
Thanks for your post. COWS is the way forward - chlorophyll, water, oxygen and suplements (did i get that right?) I use a different way of explaining the fundamentals. If Bechamp's theroy had prevalied then medicine would be very different today.
I will be doing a thread on blood analysis as its pretty interesting.
Its good that you differentiate between raw/alkalizing...many raw foods are as bad as cooked food in terms of acidity - as you show theres no reason to get bored with this way of living as there is so much to eat. Good to drop the booze too, I did 11 yrs ago and dont even miss it. And as you have shown, when you make changes it is quickly reflected in the blood! Well done to you :D
porridge
12-04-2011, 07:06 PM
Surely you want to get your body neutral not too acidic or akaline. Plants like neutral for healthy growth.
domathy
12-04-2011, 08:20 PM
Surely you want to get your body neutral not too acidic or akaline. Plants like neutral for healthy growth.
Yes, blood is almost neutral (pH 7.365) - but biochemistry is such that it is very easy to become too acidic. The pH scale moves in increments of 10, so a cup of coffee is 10,000 x more acidic than blood. Plus it takes 20 parts alkalinity to buffer one part acid. Our diet should be 80-90% alkaline forming foods and 10-20% mild acid foods. Most people eat 90% high acid food and don't drink enough water to flush out acids.
If you read the article it is explained in full.
take it easy
12-04-2011, 09:27 PM
Brilliant stuff, i'm going to change my lifestyle with this information - it all feels very relevant to what is going on with me.
thank-you very very much Dom.
stillwakingup
12-04-2011, 10:49 PM
What is Zeolite,can you advise how its used and helps Bi-polar?
Great thread by the way!
rootcause
13-04-2011, 02:20 AM
Great post, I used to weigh 110 Kg a few years ago and i decided to shed the weight down to 75Kg using the calorie count diet – it worked and now I’m just over 80kg which is healthy for my height.
Then I began focusing on the Alkaline acid approach to dieting, I do a lot of weight training now so protein is very important, I have six meals a day 3 big meals and 3 small meals(snacks).
The snacks that I have are very alkaline:
First snack: Two chopped tomatoes in a bowl with a bit of olive oil/salt/ Balsamic vinegar.
Second Snack: Steamed broccoli or any other green vegetable.
Third Snack: Plain lettuce with some olive oil and sault
It is very important that I use organic stuff; organic grown fruits and vegies have up to 6 times the nutritional value of GM fruits and vegies.
The big meals consist of meat/potatoes/chicken/fish/rice.
I do drink lots of water, at least 10 glasses a day and also take protein shakes before and after my workouts, I have pepper mint tea and nettle tea as well as jasmine. (All organic), some days i put sliced lemons and ginger with honey in a cup of hot water.
Although I have to admit some days I get bored of cooking and eat out at McDonalds or burger king or pizza hut, but to be honest – psychologically it’s healthy to diverse from a strict diet from time to time :)
domathy
13-04-2011, 11:51 AM
What is Zeolite,can you advise how its used and helps Bi-polar?
Great thread by the way!
I will try and did more info up for you but here is something I just found:
http://nutrientscure.blogspot.com/2006/08/breakthrough-detoxification-discovery.html
domathy
13-04-2011, 11:57 AM
Great post, I used to weigh 110 Kg a few years ago and i decided to shed the weight down to 75Kg using the calorie count diet – it worked and now I’m just over 80kg which is healthy for my height.
Then I began focusing on the Alkaline acid approach to dieting, I do a lot of weight training now so protein is very important, I have six meals a day 3 big meals and 3 small meals(snacks).
The snacks that I have are very alkaline:
First snack: Two chopped tomatoes in a bowl with a bit of olive oil/salt/ Balsamic vinegar.
Second Snack: Steamed broccoli or any other green vegetable.
Third Snack: Plain lettuce with some olive oil and sault
It is very important that I use organic stuff; organic grown fruits and vegies have up to 6 times the nutritional value of GM fruits and vegies.
The big meals consist of meat/potatoes/chicken/fish/rice.
I do drink lots of water, at least 10 glasses a day and also take protein shakes before and after my workouts, I have pepper mint tea and nettle tea as well as jasmine. (All organic), some days i put sliced lemons and ginger with honey in a cup of hot water.
Although I have to admit some days I get bored of cooking and eat out at McDonalds or burger king or pizza hut, but to be honest – psychologically it’s healthy to diverse from a strict diet from time to time :)
THats great, calorie counting is not the best way to lose weight so its good that you switched. You need lots of calories to be fully healthy but need the right kind of calories. For protein try lentils too, and for energy avocados are good as have a few hundred calories per avocado and are great for training.
Keep vinegar to a minimum though as is a high acid/proton saturated product.
Also try and find alternatives to whey protein as is not great for the pancreas in the long run.
I agree about not being obsessive about food - i still eat chocolate, but then I have other times where i really make my diet clean and cleanse my body.
Im allergic to wheat so that makes my life easier, also eggs and alcohol are no good for me and i was raised vegetarian so Im cheating a bit :D
stillwakingup
13-04-2011, 03:05 PM
I will try and did more info up for you but here is something I just found:
http://nutrientscure.blogspot.com/2006/08/breakthrough-detoxification-discovery.html
Thanks Domathy you are very helpful.Is there a method for checking ph Levels on regular basis as I imagine you could swing to far the other direction?
Sorry if thats a dumb question ,but theres so much info to take in its hard to know how to achieve a realistic balance.
Also is Zeolite something you are advised to take as a supplement regularly?
thx again:)
domathy
13-04-2011, 03:59 PM
Thanks Domathy you are very helpful.Is there a method for checking ph Levels on regular basis as I imagine you could swing to far the other direction?
Sorry if thats a dumb question ,but theres so much info to take in its hard to know how to achieve a realistic balance.
Also is Zeolite something you are advised to take as a supplement regularly?
thx again:)
It is practically impossible to become too alklaine (when the blood pH is too alkaline it is because the body is dumping alkaline minerals into the blood but reflects systemic acidity). Urine/salive pH testing is a good method of monitoring body pH...I will try and find a document that explains how - I have put it somewhere safe and cant find it :rolleyes:
I dont have personal experience with Zeolite but I suggest you follow the suppliers instructions.
Chlorophyll is important too and the earth greens is a great product and helps to get heavy metals out of the body:
www.essanteworldwide.com/allaboutenergy
I will try to post lots more practical info on this subject soon. :)
stillwakingup
13-04-2011, 07:22 PM
Thanks Dr Dom your brilliant!!!
domathy
13-04-2011, 08:22 PM
Thanks Dr Dom your brilliant!!!
You're welcome :D
Here is some info I put together about live and dry blood analysis for you and anyone who wants to know more about how it works. It will help you understand this subject better.
Live and Dry blood analysis - Fullscreen
domathy
13-04-2011, 08:24 PM
Thanks Domathy you are very helpful.Is there a method for checking ph Levels on regular basis as I imagine you could swing to far the other direction?
Sorry if thats a dumb question ,but theres so much info to take in its hard to know how to achieve a realistic balance.
Also is Zeolite something you are advised to take as a supplement regularly?
thx again:)
Here's a link for pH testing:
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2008/03/testing-urine-and-saliva-ph.html
the lost
14-04-2011, 12:55 PM
Great thread and its good of you to be helping people the way you are :)
I cant say this is 100% true but I was looking into baking soda (for brushing), found out it was good to ingest too (looked into why) and through looking I seen it mentioned that it is the fridge cleaning variety that has the aluminum in it. Im still gonna try and get the pharmacy grade type you mentioned though. Will that be available in most chemists like boots, or maybe the small local chemists?
Also I really want to try cutting down my acid intake etc, I smoke, and drink way too much coffee, (nearly every drink I have in a day is coffee :o lol) and although Ive started eating healthier as Ive noticed from your info its still very acidic.
I have a limited budget to spend on food ATM and would like to start cutting down the acid, no offense but it seems most of the food mentioned cant make a meal (as in the erm traditional english food, chips/pasta/rice with meat/fish, lol) or take a lot of cooking and preparing. Im not complaining but the easier I can make it the better I will stick to it and the more Ill increase it... soooo could you list soem of the snacks/ smaller meals (easier to prepare) you have that are not acidic and easy to prepare.
Thanks :)
domathy
14-04-2011, 05:32 PM
Great thread and its good of you to be helping people the way you are :)
I cant say this is 100% true but I was looking into baking soda (for brushing), found out it was good to ingest too (looked into why) and through looking I seen it mentioned that it is the fridge cleaning variety that has the aluminum in it. Im still gonna try and get the pharmacy grade type you mentioned though. Will that be available in most chemists like boots, or maybe the small local chemists?
Also I really want to try cutting down my acid intake etc, I smoke, and drink way too much coffee, (nearly every drink I have in a day is coffee :o lol) and although Ive started eating healthier as Ive noticed from your info its still very acidic.
I have a limited budget to spend on food ATM and would like to start cutting down the acid, no offense but it seems most of the food mentioned cant make a meal (as in the erm traditional english food, chips/pasta/rice with meat/fish, lol) or take a lot of cooking and preparing. Im not complaining but the easier I can make it the better I will stick to it and the more Ill increase it... soooo could you list soem of the snacks/ smaller meals (easier to prepare) you have that are not acidic and easy to prepare.
Thanks :)
Love your avatar :D
Sodium bicarb is sooo cheap and you can achieve so much in terms of alkaizing the body- boots don't sell for some reason (prob cos people now using it to heal themselves) Try Lloyds pharmacy or any independent one.
Start with a quarter of tsp in a glass of water then build up the dose.
Gotta go, will get back to you with food ideas....i spend minumum time in kitchen so know where you are coming from. :D
razorbill
14-04-2011, 11:06 PM
Thanks for the great thread, Domathy.
Re. Zeolite: I took Liquid Zeolite and could feel the detox effects very clearly. At times I decided to eat from plastic spoons as it made me very adverse to metals.
I am a great fan of kombucha, I make it with ginger and/or sliced beetroot.
It was actually after one month of taking a daily dose of kombucha that I 'woke up' - it seems to have cleared my thought processes and made me sharper!
What's your take on kombucha?
domathy
15-04-2011, 06:35 PM
Thanks for the great thread, Domathy.
Re. Zeolite: I took Liquid Zeolite and could feel the detox effects very clearly. At times I decided to eat from plastic spoons as it made me very adverse to metals.
I am a great fan of kombucha, I make it with ginger and/or sliced beetroot.
It was actually after one month of taking a daily dose of kombucha that I 'woke up' - it seems to have cleared my thought processes and made me sharper!
What's your take on kombucha?
Thanks for sharing your experience with Zeolite...MMS also works well for clearing metals i think.
I used to drink Kombucha, I used to drink it myself but stopped as Dr Young reccomends to avoid anything fermented, but if you feel it works for you then i wont try and dispute it. Maybe try alkalizing and you will get the same benefits just without the fermentation. Sorry I cant give a more conclusive answer.
domathy
15-04-2011, 06:42 PM
Great thread and its good of you to be helping people the way you are :)
I cant say this is 100% true but I was looking into baking soda (for brushing), found out it was good to ingest too (looked into why) and through looking I seen it mentioned that it is the fridge cleaning variety that has the aluminum in it. Im still gonna try and get the pharmacy grade type you mentioned though. Will that be available in most chemists like boots, or maybe the small local chemists?
Also I really want to try cutting down my acid intake etc, I smoke, and drink way too much coffee, (nearly every drink I have in a day is coffee :o lol) and although Ive started eating healthier as Ive noticed from your info its still very acidic.
I have a limited budget to spend on food ATM and would like to start cutting down the acid, no offense but it seems most of the food mentioned cant make a meal (as in the erm traditional english food, chips/pasta/rice with meat/fish, lol) or take a lot of cooking and preparing. Im not complaining but the easier I can make it the better I will stick to it and the more Ill increase it... soooo could you list soem of the snacks/ smaller meals (easier to prepare) you have that are not acidic and easy to prepare.
Thanks :)
Basically i rely on avocados and lentils, millet, quinnoa and buckwheat for calories and food that is filling. Avo's are about 300 cals each and a great source of energy, but takes time to fully condition your body to burn fat really efficiently. Exercise is an important part of getting your body to burn fat, even just 30 mins brisk walking will do. Lentils are good but hard to digest for some. To cook lentils, boil for 5 mins, pour off the brown water, add fresh and boil for another 5 mins, pour off the brown water then add fresh and simmer for 20 mins - loads of energy and protein. Dont mix with cheese, meat, dairy or oils, or other carbs/starches. Make a big meal of lentils with avocado and maybe soup for proper digestion. If you cook a load of lentils, can keep for 24 hrs in fridge and use for several meals.
Sweet potatoes are good too.
Will try to put more info together soon. :D
yourbodyisall
15-04-2011, 09:40 PM
I've got a few questions I hope you can answer.
I distill my water but it still comes out with the same pH as tap water which is around a 6.2 according to pH paper. So how can I get my water to more balanced pH? Add lemon juice?
My other question is how come some foods like lemons, which are acid are still alkalizing while fights which are alkaline outside of the body have an alkalizing effect once eaten. Does it just have to do with how the body reacted to it rather than its initial pH?
domathy
15-04-2011, 09:55 PM
:)I've got a few questions I hope you can answer.
I distill my water but it still comes out with the same pH as tap water which is around a 6.2 according to pH paper. So how can I get my water to more balanced pH? Add lemon juice?
My other question is how come some foods like lemons, which are acid are still alkalizing while fights which are alkaline outside of the body have an alkalizing effect once eaten. Does it just have to do with how the body reacted to it rather than its initial pH?
For some reason pH paper is not accurate for testing water, you need an alt meter for that. All distilled water is pH 7 i think, but is proton saturated and unstructured. So need to preferably spin the water www.aqua-vortex.com
and then ideallystructure it. lemon, wheatgrass, sunlight are great ways to structure water.
Citrus has an acid pH but the acids are volatile and evaporate very quickly once inside the body leaving behind lots of oxygen and an alkaline ash (minerals).
yourbodyisall
15-04-2011, 09:59 PM
Awesome, thanks brotha! :)
ironcobra
17-04-2011, 06:53 AM
wow great thread domathy...i just started taking my health seriously after the same type of teenage/20's(it was fun tho) my budget is pretty bad right now but ive forced my self to start eating alot healthier..anyway where i live organic foods are expensive and hard to get a hold of i just bought this product http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/SUPPLEMENTS/FoundationalNutrition/PerfectFoodsupsupRAW/tabid/1836/Default.aspx
and after 2 weeks me and my father are really happy with the energy we have been getting are u familar with this product? do u think there is enough chlorophyll/wheat grass to justify the price, ive really been debating on wether i should start growing my own wheatgrass and buying a juicer, but my budget is tight right now, and its easier to spend 20 bucks on perfect food. I have pretty much substituted breakfast and lunch with a nice glass of this nasty tasting green drink but so far so good i mix it with blueberry juice is that a good fruit or another modified no no?
i am a chef and have absolutely no exp with vege/vegan cooking but have been inspired to start researching this style of cooking as its becoming quite popular where i live. you growing up as a vege are there any essential cookbooks u use for inspiration would really love to start cooking with these methods, i have already switched to baking soda for brushing/ingesting/deodarant(been using arm and hammer they swear there is no alum in the processing but im probaly better off buyin the mentioned type) and im trying to eliminate all the harsh chemicals and cleaners but thats very hard in my industry im bombarded everyday, anyway thanks for all this info had no idea many of the foods labelled as healthy were actually very damaging very good article well written for the non phd people:D
the lost
17-04-2011, 06:32 PM
Basically i rely on avocados and lentils, millet, quinnoa and buckwheat for calories and food that is filling. Avo's are about 300 cals each and a great source of energy, but takes time to fully condition your body to burn fat really efficiently. Exercise is an important part of getting your body to burn fat, even just 30 mins brisk walking will do. Lentils are good but hard to digest for some. To cook lentils, boil for 5 mins, pour off the brown water, add fresh and boil for another 5 mins, pour off the brown water then add fresh and simmer for 20 mins - loads of energy and protein. Dont mix with cheese, meat, dairy or oils, or other carbs/starches. Make a big meal of lentils with avocado and maybe soup for proper digestion. If you cook a load of lentils, can keep for 24 hrs in fridge and use for several meals.
Sweet potatoes are good too.
Will try to put more info together soon. :D
Thanks :)
I dont even know what lentils, millet, quinnoa and buckwheat are and ive never had them :o but if theyre anything like pasta i should be ok lol and ill definitely give the avocados a go.
Im gonna stick to the bicarb too but im not sure how to take it, on two occasion i had the runs lol :o though it was only erm what was in there and not continuous if you know what i mean, though that could have been something else.
So how much bicard should i be looking to build up to? im handling 2 glasses a day with nearly a full teaspoon, and i aint dead yet so whats the max i should work up to?
thanks again :)
It was amusing to me when I looked at your page and saw this picture of 'healthy blood cells' it put me in mind of the skin on Kate Middleton's neck in a filtered image.
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019731/ahealthybloodcells.jpg
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019733/akateskin.jpg
Then, when I read/scrolled down further, I saw this:
Blood becomes skin!
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019732/abloodbecomesskin.jpg
Talk about where my mind was at!
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019734/akateskincolor.jpg
source post (http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059678395&postcount=20)
Thought I'd throw that in.
Here's some info about sodium bicarbonate and pH that might interest and answer some things:
http://s3.zetaboards.com/For_My_Jee/topic/7479636/1/?x=0#post8160505
domathy, thanks for sharing your information and I really like this bit about lemon:
Just a note about lemons. They are acidic in their original pH - but the acids are very volatile and as soon as you eat/drink the acids vanish as vapour and you are left with lots of available oxygen (1/3 available oxygen) and also alkalizing minerals.
__________________
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059821192&postcount=53
Could you explain what the doctor has against fermented products?
Thanks :)
I dont even know what lentils, millet, quinnoa and buckwheat are and ive never had them :o but if theyre anything like pasta i should be ok lol and ill definitely give the avocados a go.
Im gonna stick to the bicarb too but im not sure how to take it, on two occasion i had the runs lol :o though it was only erm what was in there and not continuous if you know what i mean, though that could have been something else.
So how much bicard should i be looking to build up to? im handling 2 glasses a day with nearly a full teaspoon, and i aint dead yet so whats the max i should work up to?
thanks again :)
Lentils are small like split peas but they're really good though a recipe might help to begin with. I used some cooked lentils in some Miso soup a few weeks ago and it made a light soup heartier. I only say that about the recipe because the first time I had lentil soup a lady from Chile had made it and it was so good. I have no idea what recipe she used or what vegetables or condiments she might have added but I do know I had a very good impression of lentil soup after having some. It was delicious. I enjoyed the taste and texture.
As for Quinoa, you can get it as well as buckwheat, millet, and lentils, in some grocery stores that carry bulk items, some larger stores and most the health food stores.
Oh, Quinoa, you'll want to rinse it repeatedly before using it as it has some coating that is extremely bitter which it uses in nature to repel insects. I've tried to cook with it but I wasn't real happy with the look/texture/taste. I've tried boiling and popping it like popcorn still I wasn't very enthused.
Amaranth and Quinoa are said to qualify as 'complete proteins' having essential amino acids as found in meat. I was just reading that an adult is fine with the levels in it whereas a growing child would need much more and would need meat.
I tried making a loaf of bread with Amaranth flour one time only instead of substituting one quarter of the flour with Amaranth flour like the instructions said to, I used much more Amaranth and ended up with a heavy inedible loaf. It didn't exactly rise and was jell like and seemed undone in the center.
domathy
18-04-2011, 04:22 PM
wow great thread domathy...i just started taking my health seriously after the same type of teenage/20's(it was fun tho) my budget is pretty bad right now but ive forced my self to start eating alot healthier..anyway where i live organic foods are expensive and hard to get a hold of i just bought this product http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/SUPPLEMENTS/FoundationalNutrition/PerfectFoodsupsupRAW/tabid/1836/Default.aspx
Yeah, healthy eating is more expensive but theres so much more nutrition than in cheap food. I had to spend all my available money on supplements and food and had to go without other stuff that I wanted to buy - but its worth investing in yourself.
and after 2 weeks me and my father are really happy with the energy we have been getting are u familar with this product? do u think there is enough chlorophyll/wheat grass to justify the price, ive really been debating on wether i should start growing my own wheatgrass and buying a juicer, but my budget is tight right now, and its easier to spend 20 bucks on perfect food. I have pretty much substituted breakfast and lunch with a nice glass of this nasty tasting green drink but so far so good i mix it with blueberry juice is that a good fruit or another modified no no?
I've never tried that one, but this is the best greens product I know of: www.essanteworldwide.com/allaboutenergy (its called earth greens in the pH section) Many companies use freeze dried wheatgrass which is not nearly so good. Its better to buy a really good product but just take less if budget is an issue rather than scrimp and buy something not nearly so good. Breakfast is best to have a light meal so you are doing well there, otherwise if you dump heavy into your body in the morning it uses a lot of nerve energy to process and can really slow you down. Blueberry is good as its low sugar but not sure if its been hybridised - should still be fine though as is still low sugar and if you take with greens then will help with digestion and pH.
i am a chef and have absolutely no exp with vege/vegan cooking but have been inspired to start researching this style of cooking as its becoming quite popular where i live. you growing up as a vege are there any essential cookbooks u use for inspiration would really love to start cooking with these methods, i have already switched to baking soda for brushing/ingesting/deodarant(been using arm and hammer they swear there is no alum in the processing but im probaly better off buyin the mentioned type) and im trying to eliminate all the harsh chemicals and cleaners but thats very hard in my industry im bombarded everyday, anyway thanks for all this info had no idea many of the foods labelled as healthy were actually very damaging very good article well written for the non phd people:D
Sounds like you are on the right track. Im really lazy in the kitchen and tend to make really simple meals but google for some ideas there are plenty of free raw/veggie/vegan recepies about (just try and stick to ones that have alkalizing ingredients and adapt ingredients where necessary). Sorry i cant be more help there, I have some basic meals that I will hopefully post soon but nothing exciting enough to inspire you if your a chef :D
Baking soda is great, but for incesting make sure its sodium bicarb from a pharmacy as baking soda is not pharmaceutical grade. Try not to worry about chemicals as its really hard to avoid altogether, but just do your best and keep learning and eventually it will all be a natural way of life. JUst keep plodding along and small changed really add up over time. :)
domathy
18-04-2011, 04:34 PM
Lentils are small like split peas but they're really good though a recipe might help to begin with. I used some cooked lentils in some Miso soup a few weeks ago and it made a light soup heartier. I only say that about the recipe because the first time I had lentil soup a lady from Chile had made it and it was so good. I have no idea what recipe she used or what vegetables or condiments she might have added but I do know I had a very good impression of lentil soup after having some. It was delicious. I enjoyed the taste and texture.
As for Quinoa, you can get it as well as buckwheat, millet, and lentils, in some grocery stores that carry bulk items, some larger stores and most the health food stores.
Oh, Quinoa, you'll want to rinse it repeatedly before using it as it has some coating that is extremely bitter which it uses in nature to repel insects. I've tried to cook with it but I wasn't real happy with the look/texture/taste. I've tried boiling and popping it like popcorn still I wasn't very enthused.
Amaranth and Quinoa are said to qualify as 'complete proteins' having essential amino acids as found in meat. I was just reading that an adult is fine with the levels in it whereas a growing child would need much more and would need meat.
I tried making a loaf of bread with Amaranth flour one time only instead of substituting one quarter of the flour with Amaranth flour like the instructions said to, I used much more Amaranth and ended up with a heavy inedible loaf. It didn't exactly rise and was jell like and seemed undone in the center.
Couln't have said it better myself, thanks :)
Though I never had a bitter taste with quinnoa but maybe we get different stuff in the UK. As long as I cook with plenty of water it fluffs up really well and millet and quinnoa are a bit like cous cous I would say. Im going to make some youtube clips of how to make this sort of stuff.
domathy
18-04-2011, 04:40 PM
Thanks :)
I dont even know what lentils, millet, quinnoa and buckwheat are and ive never had them :o but if theyre anything like pasta i should be ok lol and ill definitely give the avocados a go.
Im gonna stick to the bicarb too but im not sure how to take it, on two occasion i had the runs lol :o though it was only erm what was in there and not continuous if you know what i mean, though that could have been something else.
So how much bicard should i be looking to build up to? im handling 2 glasses a day with nearly a full teaspoon, and i aint dead yet so whats the max i should work up to?
thanks again :)
Good luck experimenting with those foods, I will hopefully do some youtube clips soon showing how to cook this stuff but its not that hard and just needs some trial and error. If you get stuck then just ask and ill tell you what youre doing wrong. Will fill you up like pasta but so much more healthy. Maybe this eve will trype some quick instructions for you if I have time.
Good work with the bicarb!! If you get the runs its just the body blasting out old acids so is a really good sign. Stick with 1tsp per glass of water and drink 2 or 3 times per day. Its not an exact science so just see how your body reacts. What you are doing already with the bicarb will make a huge difference to your body pH so very well done :D
the lost
18-04-2011, 06:36 PM
Lentils are small like split peas but they're really good though a recipe might help to begin with. I used some cooked lentils in some Miso soup a few weeks ago and it made a light soup heartier. I only say that about the recipe because the first time I had lentil soup a lady from Chile had made it and it was so good. I have no idea what recipe she used or what vegetables or condiments she might have added but I do know I had a very good impression of lentil soup after having some. It was delicious. I enjoyed the taste and texture.
As for Quinoa, you can get it as well as buckwheat, millet, and lentils, in some grocery stores that carry bulk items, some larger stores and most the health food stores.
Oh, Quinoa, you'll want to rinse it repeatedly before using it as it has some coating that is extremely bitter which it uses in nature to repel insects. I've tried to cook with it but I wasn't real happy with the look/texture/taste. I've tried boiling and popping it like popcorn still I wasn't very enthused.
Amaranth and Quinoa are said to qualify as 'complete proteins' having essential amino acids as found in meat. I was just reading that an adult is fine with the levels in it whereas a growing child would need much more and would need meat.
I tried making a loaf of bread with Amaranth flour one time only instead of substituting one quarter of the flour with Amaranth flour like the instructions said to, I used much more Amaranth and ended up with a heavy inedible loaf. It didn't exactly rise and was jell like and seemed undone in the center.
Thanks for the info Yass :)
im new to all this type of cooking, living alone means i dont get very adventurous when cooking as it doesnt seem worth my while. i dont eat much so im gonna try all different types that Dr dom mentioned and find which one i like that is sort of like a pasta or rice (that will go with a type of sauce (still keeping in the 80/20 alk, acid ratio))
Avocados and broccoli/cauliflower will make up my other meals and water :( lol
the lost
18-04-2011, 06:55 PM
Good luck experimenting with those foods, I will hopefully do some youtube clips soon showing how to cook this stuff but its not that hard and just needs some trial and error. If you get stuck then just ask and ill tell you what youre doing wrong. Will fill you up like pasta but so much more healthy. Maybe this eve will trype some quick instructions for you if I have time.
Cool :) also i seen you mention in a post above that quinoa is like cous cous which ive had a lot of times and know what can go with that. As ive just mentioned in a previous post, i dont eat a lot so my breakfast could be the avocados, dinner could be broccoli etc and my main meal could be quinoa with a sauce, so that way it should be with in the 80/20 ratio and the more i learn about these food types the more stuff i can include and more variety i can add :)
Good work with the bicarb!! If you get the runs its just the body blasting out old acids so is a really good sign. Stick with 1tsp per glass of water and drink 2 or 3 times per day. Its not an exact science so just see how your body reacts. What you are doing already with the bicarb will make a huge difference to your body pH so very well done :D[/COLOR]
Thanks :o i dont mind having the runs cause of what youve said now hehe, and like i said its not like a body bug where it happens all day, it just seems to empty whats in your bowel, so any other readers wondering about it, its really not a problem, just be warned! try a lil tester fart before you let one rip :D i also like the idea that bicard can be so easy to take but does such a good thing in a small drink :)
One last thing, i read your thread to my girlfriend and shes interested but started asking me about the PH balance of food stuffs... i remember you mentioned that the normal method of checking foods PH isnt accurate enough as it incinerates the sugars (so checking ph on google isnt so useful.) So instead of me filling this thread up with 1000's of questions asking about individual foods PH, is there a website/link you can provide which would show different food stuffs real PH?
Again thanks for taking the time to respond :)
domathy
18-04-2011, 06:58 PM
Thanks for the info Yass :)
im new to all this type of cooking, living alone means i dont get very adventurous when cooking as it doesnt seem worth my while. i dont eat much so im gonna try all different types that Dr dom mentioned and find which one i like that is sort of like a pasta or rice (that will go with a type of sauce (still keeping in the 80/20 alk, acid ratio))
Avocados and broccoli/cauliflower will make up my other meals and water :( lol
Really good work :D
Dr Dom (lol) eats broccoli, avocado and tomato quite a lot as is very easy, filling and tastes good.
Lentils work well with sauce and see how you get on with the millet/quinnoa.
Stay in touch :D
domathy
18-04-2011, 07:01 PM
It was amusing to me when I looked at your page (http://www.scribd.com/full/52580467?access_key=key-2aaemk8bozoabwfqcoaa) and saw this picture of 'healthy blood cells' it put me in mind of the skin on Kate Middleton's neck in a filtered image.
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019731/ahealthybloodcells.jpg
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019733/akateskin.jpg
Then, when I read/scrolled down further, I saw this:
Blood becomes skin!
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019732/abloodbecomesskin.jpg
Talk about where my mind was at!
http://209.85.122.83/2505/120/0/p1019734/akateskincolor.jpg
source post (http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059678395&postcount=20)
Thought I'd throw that in.
Here's some info about sodium bicarbonate and pH that might interest and answer some things:
http://s3.zetaboards.com/For_My_Jee/topic/7479636/1/?x=0#post8160505
domathy, thanks for sharing your information and I really like this bit about lemon:
Could you explain what the doctor has against fermented products?
Ew thats creepy :eek:
Re fermented foods, Dr Young says just avoid things involved in the compost cycle of life ie mushrooms, algae, alcohol etc due to acid and mycotoxin content.
leon11
18-04-2011, 08:35 PM
ive been aware of the importance of pH levels for a little while....and this thread is a godsend. only properly read the first page as yet but thanks for the spot on (yet terrifying!) info. I say terrifying cos I smoke cigarettes, eat pork almost daily, etc etc... =/
I think it is imperative to, as you pointed out, implement these changes gradually...as us humans set in our ways tend to give things up if they are too much. we can all do this together though! maybe us brits can get a spiritual vibe of alkaline boost going ;)
thanks domothy for confirming what i suspected, and introducing a whole lot more. this type of info is so important to us.
i may get back to ya with a few quick questions if you dont mind, but i think most has already been covered. I believe there's also a good thread around for alkalising water for those interested.
Am i right in thinking domothy, that dietary choices should also be aligned to your blood group? is this your field?
another forum user posted a great link about this a while back, I'll try and find it.
subscribing....and definately trying from now on! cheers
peace
blue2
18-04-2011, 09:54 PM
Thanks :)
I dont even know what lentils, millet, quinnoa and buckwheat are and ive never had them :o but if theyre anything like pasta i should be ok lol and ill definitely give the avocados a go.
Im gonna stick to the bicarb too but im not sure how to take it, on two occasion i had the runs lol :o though it was only erm what was in there and not continuous if you know what i mean, though that could have been something else.
So how much bicard should i be looking to build up to? im handling 2 glasses a day with nearly a full teaspoon, and i aint dead yet so whats the max i should work up to?
thanks again :)
By the way Bicarb can be used each two hours for flu and colds a tspn i like with tspn Aspalls Organic Cyder Vinegar too, another allkaline. Puy Lentils are great see Merchant Gourmet and i can eat a bowl of them with olive oil on or Udo oil quite happily but not orange lentils as they are too carby for me... You will detox with Bicarb sometimes it is cleansing ! it's meant to get rid of the rubbish your body is holding onto ! or use once or twice daily...
lighthouse
18-04-2011, 10:32 PM
OK, now I have read the whole thread again..
and i got lemons from a neighbour, real home grown lemons, not supermarket fakes.
super pleased, and will be trying them with water first ting in morning. I think that is wot u sposed to do?
Any hints of lemons would be appreciated, folks. :)
I finally got some real lemons, wow! :cool:
Ty OP, great thread! ( soz about being freaked out, that is just me) :o
My friend told me like five years ago about great way to energize
the body after exhausting physical or/and mental activity:
lemonade with just a little salt.
Not sugar, salt.
Electrolites and stuff. :cool:
Tried it, great to drink if you are drinking,
deprives you from hangover tomorrow,
no dehidration at all. ;)
So, maybe there is really a point in those lemons...
ironcobra
19-04-2011, 01:45 AM
My friend told me like five years ago about great way to energize
the body after exhausting physical or/and mental activity:
lemonade with just a little salt.
Not sugar, salt.
Electrolites and stuff. :cool:
Tried it, great to drink if you are drinking,
deprives you from hangover tomorrow,
no dehidration at all. ;)
So, maybe there is really a point in those lemons...
def something about those lemons ur right, i worked with a very good chinese chef for and while a every time the bug passed around the restaurant he would make a broth from chicken bones a ton of lemon and ginger, it would take him a day to make it (was crystal clear after he was done!) didnt matter how bad ur flu was u drank a tea sized cup of that broth and it would make u sweat like a sauna for a couple of hours and by the end of the shift the symptoms were gone,he called it chicken power in his funny chinese accent, looking back i wish i would have payed alil more attention when he made it although he was very cautious about giving away his chinese recipes.....love those lemons
gnosis_dub
19-04-2011, 07:24 AM
Thnks Dom for this thread.
Take a look at Dr. Young, as Domath mentions, he is a total renegade but I think he's on target. The interview of his ideas on PH here http://hlifemedia.com/2010/09/htalk-interview-dr-robert-young/ is great and makes total sense to me.
Some other items of note:
carbon 60 (animated ash). Supposedly releases oxygen when UV light is presented with it.
Colloidal silver is found to be powerfully alkaline. :D Look up on how to make it yourself.
An incorrect mental attitude produces more poisons and toxins than does eating bad food - Edgar Cayce
lighthouse
19-04-2011, 07:40 AM
an incorrect mental attitude produces more poisons and toxins than does eating bad food - edgar cayce
+1000
Couln't have said it better myself, thanks :)
Though I never had a bitter taste with quinnoa but maybe we get different stuff in the UK. As long as I cook with plenty of water it fluffs up really well and millet and quinnoa are a bit like cous cous I would say. Im going to make some youtube clips of how to make this sort of stuff.
Ok, I just read quinoa is now being pre-rinsed (not all of it but much of it).
Here is some info, recipes.
http://foodsforlonglife.blogspot.com/2011/02/spicy-vegan-quinoa-with-asparagus-and.html
http://gfedge.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/quinoa-%E2%80%93-learning-to-love-it/
http://www.allaboutfasting.com/cooking-quinoa.html
hypnoticspectre
19-04-2011, 09:57 AM
As anyone used the AQUA-VORTEX ? If so id love some feedback :)
I was looking into water filters the other day and now Ive stumbled upon this. It seems to be on another level. (or an elaborate scam :P)
I'm curious though does the water not just fall straight through the middle of the spiral or actually enter into it ?
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:25 PM
ive been aware of the importance of pH levels for a little while....and this thread is a godsend. only properly read the first page as yet but thanks for the spot on (yet terrifying!) info. I say terrifying cos I smoke cigarettes, eat pork almost daily, etc etc... =/
I think it is imperative to, as you pointed out, implement these changes gradually...as us humans set in our ways tend to give things up if they are too much. we can all do this together though! maybe us brits can get a spiritual vibe of alkaline boost going ;)
Yes, there really is no rush - unless you feel you want to just run with it in which case go right ahead. 'Alkalizing' can be a trap too, as with most things it depends how you use it. I have seen many people (myself included in the beginning) become obsessed with alklaizing and fearful of anything 'acidic'. You can be on a perfect alklaine diet but that doesnt guarantee health. Your physical health can only progress according to other areas of your being. Mind/body/spirit - imagine a triangle and you need to grow the triangle but keeping each side equal. I find my health has only prgogressed according to spritual/emotional development and it cant be forces. If people force the alkalizing process and focus on diet alone, life will just slingshot them back to where they belong, until they can raise their vibration consistently to resonate with the high levels of light involved in a high pH high electron diet and lifestyle. Alkalizing is a trap if people just focus on diet (ie the physical aspect) as it denys growth in other areas. It becomes a form of control, just like anorexia and i have seen many on this path who seem just as imbalanced as someone with an eating disorder.
So gently plod along at your own rate. The science behind this shows that acidity is a problem and that the food chain is disturbed but human spirit or whatever you want to call it needs to be taken into account. We also have the capacity to transmute toxins and our bodies are designed to withstand our spiritual unfolding so can take a lot of abuse. I am still editing the article and will be emphasising this info as how you approach this is the most important aspect
thanks domothy for confirming what i suspected, and introducing a whole lot more. this type of info is so important to us.
i may get back to ya with a few quick questions if you dont mind, but i think most has already been covered. I believe there's also a good thread around for alkalising water for those interested.
Am i right in thinking domothy, that dietary choices should also be aligned to your blood group? is this your field?
another forum user posted a great link about this a while back, I'll try and find it.
subscribing....and definately trying from now on! cheers
peace
Feel free to ask any questions, and also to include a link to the alklaine water thread, I will be covering water in deatail in another thread aswell.
Regarding blood group, in theory its interesting and there is some element of truth in the concept but in practice it doesnt work for me. Ie im O-type and supposed to eat meat and avoid avocados; I eat loads of avo's and no meat in my diet at all and am very fit and healthy. D'amo says avo's will make type-O blood clumpy, but i test my own blood using a microscope and never have clumpy blood from avo's. Stu Mittelman the marathon runner was using the O-type approach when running from east to west coast of USA, he started burning out so adopted the greens and avo's approach - he was tested by doctors and was healthier at the end of the race than he was at the beginning and also was the only person to finish the race. He talks about blood type in his book 'slow burn'. Also Im not sure if i buy the idea that we all started in africa then spread out across the world and hence different blood groups/diet requirements. I go for the human genetic modification expalanation myself ;)
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:27 PM
Ok, I just read quinoa is now being pre-rinsed (not all of it but much of it).
Here is some info, recipes.
http://foodsforlonglife.blogspot.com/2011/02/spicy-vegan-quinoa-with-asparagus-and.html
http://gfedge.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/quinoa-%E2%80%93-learning-to-love-it/
http://www.allaboutfasting.com/cooking-quinoa.html
Thanks for that i will take a look. I never tasted bitter quinnoa (so must be pre-rinsed) but always give it an extra rinse anyway.
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:28 PM
As anyone used the AQUA-VORTEX ? If so id love some feedback :)
I was looking into water filters the other day and now Ive stumbled upon this. It seems to be on another level. (or an elaborate scam :P)
I'm curious though does the water not just fall straight through the middle of the spiral or actually enter into it ?
Yes! I mentioned Aqua vortex earlier in this thread. In my experience it really does work. :D If you cant afford a water filter it is the best alternative. I even spin filtered water too.
stillwakingup
19-04-2011, 12:29 PM
what is the best bicarbonate and where can you get in?
Lots of options on the web but the better ones( red mill for instance) seem to be only available in the us?
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:31 PM
+1000
Emotional stress produces hydrochloric acid which is 3 x stronger than dietary acids. So attitude is very important.
That said, bad diet can cause a bad attitude/emotoinal state and reduce capacity to deal with stress.
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:48 PM
By the way Bicarb can be used each two hours for flu and colds a tspn i like with tspn Aspalls Organic Cyder Vinegar too, another allkaline. Puy Lentils are great see Merchant Gourmet and i can eat a bowl of them with olive oil on or Udo oil quite happily but not orange lentils as they are too carby for me... You will detox with Bicarb sometimes it is cleansing ! it's meant to get rid of the rubbish your body is holding onto ! or use once or twice daily...
I never get flu now so can't comment on the above remedy, but generally its best to avoid vineger, as although it is alkaline, it is proton saturated and will pull electrons (energy) from the body. If someone has a clogged colon full of rotting meat and other proteins (ie the reason people get flu) then it will dissolve this stuff and you get perceived benefit - but in the long run you will just burn healthy tissue. If taking vinegar with bicarb then its okay as the bicarb will sacrafice its electrons so your body doesnt get robbed - but I always reccomend magnesium oxide as an excellent way to dissolve old protiens in the colon. Also clay and psyllium (watch out for my colon cleansing thread soon).
I also love lentils and had a big bowl for breakfast. And i love Udo's oil with food too (just wait for food to cool otherwise heat will cause the oil to begin oxidising) And Udos oils is just great in general. Store in fridge, dont leave the lid off bottle too long, and dont expose to light (heat, air, and light will cause this amazing oil to oxidize and go off) Ask your local health store to keep some in the freezer for you as its good to transport it home frozen if poss. Otherwise just keep it cool and put in fridge as quick as poss.
Like you say, bicarb can make you detox and go to the toilet - but its just acids and toxins being flushed out.
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:51 PM
what is the best bicarbonate and where can you get in?
Lots of options on the web but the better ones( red mill for instance) seem to be only available in the us?
I use different brands according to whats available. I have not bought online as they sell at my local pharmacy so I save on postage. But if you are in the UK just ask for BP Grade bicarb or pharmaceutical grade. If its labelled as sodium bicarb and not baking soda then you cant go too far wrong.
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:53 PM
My friend told me like five years ago about great way to energize
the body after exhausting physical or/and mental activity:
lemonade with just a little salt.
Not sugar, salt.
Electrolites and stuff. :cool:
Tried it, great to drink if you are drinking,
deprives you from hangover tomorrow,
no dehidration at all. ;)
So, maybe there is really a point in those lemons...
Yes, though I drink salty water all day long. Especially when exercising - you get incredible energy from salt. Just dont drink regular salt as youll probably die :D I will do a thread on the right kind of salt soon and why it works.
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:55 PM
def something about those lemons ur right, i worked with a very good chinese chef for and while a every time the bug passed around the restaurant he would make a broth from chicken bones a ton of lemon and ginger, it would take him a day to make it (was crystal clear after he was done!) didnt matter how bad ur flu was u drank a tea sized cup of that broth and it would make u sweat like a sauna for a couple of hours and by the end of the shift the symptoms were gone,he called it chicken power in his funny chinese accent, looking back i wish i would have payed alil more attention when he made it although he was very cautious about giving away his chinese recipes.....love those lemons
Winner, winner, chicken-power dinner! :D
domathy
19-04-2011, 12:58 PM
Thnks Dom for this thread.
Take a look at Dr. Young, as Domath mentions, he is a total renegade but I think he's on target. The interview of his ideas on PH here http://hlifemedia.com/2010/09/htalk-interview-dr-robert-young/ is great and makes total sense to me.
Some other items of note:
carbon 60 (animated ash). Supposedly releases oxygen when UV light is presented with it.
Colloidal silver is found to be powerfully alkaline. :D Look up on how to make it yourself.
An incorrect mental attitude produces more poisons and toxins than does eating bad food - Edgar Cayce
I will look into that info - silver defo works though I hear its now banned in EU countries :mad:
Dr Young's info is great - but as I said above the alkalizing thing can be a trap if you get too obsessive. Im cautious as Dr Young is descended from bloodline Brigham Young (Mormon freemason :rolleyes:)
(also Dr Young is published by AOL time warner and always wears crocodile shoes)
stillwakingup
19-04-2011, 01:58 PM
I use different brands according to whats available. I have not bought online as they sell at my local pharmacy so I save on postage. But if you are in the UK just ask for BP Grade bicarb or pharmaceutical grade. If its labelled as sodium bicarb and not baking soda then you cant go too far wrong.
Thanks again Dom will try for it today.Look forward to the salt thread, I am an addict:( & its deffo all the wrong stuff!!!
lighthouse
19-04-2011, 02:37 PM
Emotional stress produces hydrochloric acid which is 3 x stronger than dietary acids. So attitude is very important.
That said, bad diet can cause a bad attitude/emotoinal state and reduce capacity to deal with stress.
You mean those two relate to each other? :D
Of course.
Five minutes of bad thinking can get you five years backwards.
- someone once said to me.
Yes, though I drink salty water all day long. Especially when exercising - you get incredible energy from salt. Just dont drink regular salt as youll probably die :D I will do a thread on the right kind of salt soon and why it works.
I use sea salt from Croatian sea. Works fine.
domathy
19-04-2011, 03:59 PM
You mean those two relate to each other? :D
Of course.
Five minutes of bad thinking can get you five years backwards.
- someone once said to me.
If your body is healthy then acid and adrenaline from stress can exit very quickly. But if the body is choked with acids from bad diet then acid and adrenaline from stress will hang around much longer and agitatie the person even further. So a good diet helps people to keep a cool head and recover from stress much more quickly. So stess/anger/negativity etc causes acid but an acid diet also perpetuates stress and agitation.
I use sea salt from Croatian sea. Works fine.
Personally i would not use any salt from any ocean that has been exposed to modern contamination. Try to get salt from ancient depostits that are protected from modern pollution ie underground or in mountains etc. That said I would still chose what you use over supermarket salt.
lighthouse
19-04-2011, 04:11 PM
Personally i would not use any salt from any ocean that has been exposed to modern contamination. Try to get salt from ancient depostits that are protected from modern pollution ie underground or in mountains etc. That said I would still chose what you use over supermarket salt.
That is our supermarket salt. :D
In Croatia we can still buy many healthy products,
comparing to the most of the western Europe and the States,
right of the supermarket shelves.
domathy
19-04-2011, 04:22 PM
That is our supermarket salt. :D
In Croatia we can still buy many healthy products,
comparing to the most of the western Europe and the States,
right of the supermarket shelves.
Well I don't know about Croatia, but the laws are very relaxed in the UK and if a brand of salt contains just 1% sea salt, then it can legally be labelled as 'sea salt' - even though it is 99% industrial chemical :confused:
So sea salt is healthier that the regular stuff that is bleached, kiln dried, stripped of minerals and anti-caking ingredients added (table salt is actually an industrial product) but I just dont trust anything that comes out of todays oceans. That said most people do not consume nearly as much salt as I do :) So for me purity is important.
gnosis_dub
19-04-2011, 06:32 PM
Dr Young's info is great - but as I said above the alkalizing thing can be a trap if you get too obsessive. Im cautious as Dr Young is descended from bloodline Brigham Young (Mormon freemason )
(also Dr Young is published by AOL time warner and always wears crocodile shoes):mad:'
How can you trust a man who wears crocodile shoes :p let alone is a freemason. What is his ultimate motive in the health circuit? To pull people in with a lot of truth, and then pull the rug out from under them with a leading astray idea that many may fall for??? Possibly. I still think his info is great though, although it most certainly will have flaws.
Yeah, the key is to stay balanced.
Since our life is the manifestation of two forces, our actions, living, and thoughts always have antagonism and contradiction. However, if there is antagonism, there should exist complementarity. Therefore, the most important lesson to learn from acid and alkaline is to accept an antagonism whenever you come across it, and turn it to complementarity in your life." - Herman Aihara
domathy
19-04-2011, 07:03 PM
:mad:'
How can you trust a man who wears crocodile shoes :p let alone is a freemason. What is his ultimate motive in the health circuit? To pull people in with a lot of truth, and then pull the rug out from under them with a leading astray idea that many may fall for??? Possibly. I still think his info is great though, although it most certainly will have flaws.
I don't think Dr Young is a mason, but his grandad was for sure. Maybe Dr Young is controlled by reptillians who use him to lure people into obsessing about their healthy. Or maybe not, I cant say but I know that healthy eating in general can be a trap if youu dont approach it in a balanced way. I think Dr Young may be too obsessed with getting the whole planet alklaine - and misses the big picture. But that said his info can be used to great effect if you tailor the approach to your own life. The leading astray could come in the form of thinking you need food/supplements to be healthy - sure these things help but people fall into a trap of depandency and trying to control how they feel using food, which is very disempowering. His alkaline info has helped many heal from cancer for example, but ive heard of many people healing without even changing their diet ie laughter therapy for example. That said Dr Young may just be totally straight and just doesnt see the big picture like Icke does - afterall he is a mormon.
Yeah, the key is to stay balanced.
Since our life is the manifestation of two forces, our actions, living, and thoughts always have antagonism and contradiction. However, if there is antagonism, there should exist complementarity. Therefore, the most important lesson to learn from acid and alkaline is to accept an antagonism whenever you come across it, and turn it to complementarity in your life." - Herman Aihara
Good reference :D
curtaincat
20-04-2011, 05:00 PM
great thread!
1st ... thanks Lighthouse #103, re the lemon and salt, i will keep that in mind ~:cool: :)
also, Ironcobra # 104 , re chinese broth of lemons, chicken bones and ginger ~will also keep that in mind , :cool: :)
Now to Domathy, ( re ur post # 109, i also agree with the genetic modification explanation)
I think it was in post # 114 , you mentioned you are doing a colon cleansing thread coming soon. Looking forward to that! :cool:
I am still a bit confused about Organic Pure Apple Cider Vinegar, cos I have only ever read really good stuff about it for years. I have a bit left in my last bottle... I wont be rushing out to get any more until I have checked out your info a bit more. But until u said what u said, I have only read good stuff...
One more question.. I like to lightly saute some cabbage and onion in extra virgin olive oil ( EVOO for short). Very yummy......
So far, I have added Oyster Sauce... Is that ok, or should I add my Himalayan Salt instead? I think that will be tasty, as well. ?????
Please answer my last question, and thanks again for a brilliant thread. :)
domathy
20-04-2011, 07:48 PM
great thread!
1st ... thanks Lighthouse #103, re the lemon and salt, i will keep that in mind ~:cool: :)
also, Ironcobra # 104 , re chinese broth of lemons, chicken bones and ginger ~will also keep that in mind , :cool: :)
Now to Domathy, ( re ur post # 109, i also agree with the genetic modification explanation)
I think it was in post # 114 , you mentioned you are doing a colon cleansing thread coming soon. Looking forward to that! :cool:
I am still a bit confused about Organic Pure Apple Cider Vinegar, cos I have only ever read really good stuff about it for years. I have a bit left in my last bottle... I wont be rushing out to get any more until I have checked out your info a bit more. But until u said what u said, I have only read good stuff...
Hi Curtaincat, If one's colon is clogged full of undigested proteins then drinking vinegar will burn away this impacted rubbish/congestion so that the colon can 'breathe' a little better. My dad used vinegar for arthritis (largley caused by acid congestion in the colon which leads to acid deposits elsewhere) and got a short term benefit - but if you continue to use it without addressing the root of the problem, you just end up burning healthy tissue. Also vinegar is proton saturated and pulls energy (electrons) from the body. Magnesium oxide is a perfect way to cleanse to colon of debris and you get the same benefit as vinegar plus loads of other benefits (alkalinity, electrons, oxygen) and without the damage caused by the vinegar. Plus vinegar is a product of fermentation. They say vinegar is high in potassium but avocados are a great source of potassium (4 x more than bananas I think)
One more question.. I like to lightly saute some cabbage and onion in extra virgin olive oil ( EVOO for short). Very yummy......
So far, I have added Oyster Sauce... Is that ok, or should I add my Himalayan Salt instead? I think that will be tasty, as well. ?????
Its best not to cook with olive oil ideally use extra virgin coconut oil as it tolerates high temperatures without oxidizing. But use olive oil until you get hold of some good coconut oil.
Salt is great to use instead but don't totally deprive yourself of foods you like. I dont reccomend oysters or anything that comes off the bottom of the ocean due to pollution but as i say just make small changes and take your time to find your feet. I will post a thread soon'ish with some youtube clips on how to make some basic recipies. In the mean time google for 'alkaline recepies' i think there are some very good ones here too:
http://www.phmiracleliving.com/t-recipes.aspx
Please answer my last question, and thanks again for a brilliant thread. :)
Thank you for your interest in this. Just keep plodding along and learning and making small changes - I will post more threads asap :D :D
Thank you for your interest in this. Just keep plodding along and learning and making small changes - I will post more threads asap :D :D
Speaking of coconut oil, I've never seen any. At one of my other groups someone posted about the health benefits of using coconut oil. I made a point to look for it at the supermarket last time I was there and there was none to be found.
Yes! I mentioned Aqua vortex earlier in this thread. In my experience it really does work. :D If you cant afford a water filter it is the best alternative. I even spin filtered water too.
Is that to create negative ions? I wonder if a salad spinner would do it. I posted here a while back about a salad spinner repurposed into a blood spinner (http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=126163&highlight=salad+spinner). Maybe we could repurpose a salad spinner to spin water. It is the action, it is when water crashes, like at a waterfall, or at the ocean, or in the shower, or when it pours rain, in which the water releases the negative ions which are good for our health.
Negative ions are really positive and positive ions are really negative. Allegedly, the terms 'negative' and 'positive' applied to the ions are a misnomer we can credit to Benjamin Franklin because at that time in the 1700's, atoms were not understood, and even though later they were more understood, the names given them had just stuck and were never changed. Positive ions will steal electrons from your body, and from what I've read, positive (really negative) ions are almost identical to protons. domathy mentioned that vinegar is proton saturated and will steal electrons from the body.
Negative (that are actually positive) ions can cure depression and kill bacteria in the air and perform other beneficial things. We have much less negative ions in our atmosphere now than in olden times and we have much more positive (actually negative) ions in the atmosphere, especially in cities due to pollution and other environmental factors.
Positive ions will make us restless and crabby among other things.
domathy
21-04-2011, 07:47 PM
Speaking of coconut oil, I've never seen any. At one of my other groups someone posted about the health benefits of using coconut oil. I made a point to look for it at the supermarket last time I was there and there was none to be found.
Hi Yass,
Need to go to a health store - its in most health stores these days due to lots of publicity and demand. Is the best oil for cooking and has many uses.
domathy
21-04-2011, 07:54 PM
Is that to create negative ions? I wonder if a salad spinner would do it. I posted here a while back about a salad spinner repurposed into a blood spinner (http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=126163&highlight=salad+spinner). Maybe we could repurpose a salad spinner to spin water. It is the action, it is when water crashes, like at a waterfall, or at the ocean, or in the shower, or when it pours rain, in which the water releases the negative ions which are good for our health.
The vortex doenst create ions - just erases memories from water to make it a blank slate. Only a vortex will work. Just spinning will not work, but nice idea though. You pour water into the funnel, it spins round but its when the water reaches the centre of the vortex that water molecules spin on their axis and this erases any memory in the water. Are you familiar with Masaru Emoto (messages in water) if not then google as its really interesting - covers this subject in more detail. Also Johan Grander is really worth checking out to understand how vortexes work.
Negative ions are really positive and positive ions are really negative. Allegedly, the terms 'negative' and 'positive' applied to the ions are a misnomer we can credit to Benjamin Franklin because at that time in the 1700's, atoms were not understood, and even though later they were more understood, the names given them had just stuck and were never changed. Positive ions will steal electrons from your body, and from what I've read, positive (really negative) ions are almost identical to protons. domathy mentioned that vinegar is proton saturated and will steal electrons from the body.
Negative (that are actually positive) ions can cure depression and kill bacteria in the air and perform other beneficial things. We have much less negative ions in our atmosphere now than in olden times and we have much more positive (actually negative) ions in the atmosphere, especially in cities due to pollution and other environmental factors.
Positive ions will make us restless and crabby among other things.
Very well said :D
the lost
22-04-2011, 04:07 PM
By the way Bicarb can be used each two hours for flu and colds a tspn i like with tspn Aspalls Organic Cyder Vinegar too, another allkaline. Puy Lentils are great see Merchant Gourmet and i can eat a bowl of them with olive oil on or Udo oil quite happily but not orange lentils as they are too carby for me... You will detox with Bicarb sometimes it is cleansing ! it's meant to get rid of the rubbish your body is holding onto ! or use once or twice daily...
hey blue :)
good info on the bicarb cold/flu treatment :)
i also use that vinegar :D they say it has an appley taste... still takes like feking vinegar lol, but yeah i have one bicarb glass a day with that in it and the other 2 bicards that day neat.
ill try that with the lentils, so thanks for that, im gonna be getting them all though just to see what theyre like.
its also good to know that was well as giving health benefits, bicarb can cleanse you, and i have no trouble taking 2/3 glasses of it a day.
theabbot 7
22-04-2011, 05:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yyL8J.png
how is a person suppose to get there protein
yourbodyisall
22-04-2011, 05:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yyL8J.png
how is a person suppose to get there protein
I found it easier to gain muscle when I stopped eating meat actually. Meat might have a high protein content by itself but that doesn't mean its very bio-available. And cooking reduces the usable protein of anything by at least 50%.
I get most of my protein from raw nuts and some leafy greens. I haven't experienced any protein problems, just listen to your body and it will tell you what it needs.
The classic example is the Gorilla which has huge muscles but eats mostly fruit and some greens and nuts.
sgh1971
22-04-2011, 07:45 PM
Brilliant post. I have been a vegetarian for several years now and thought I was eating perfectly healthy. This post woke me up to the acid/alkaline issue with regards to diet. Thank you.
Now I was just wondering, say with a "true" carnivore/omnivore, like a dog, does the opposite follow? As in will too much alkalinity in their diet destroy their health? Just wondering if you had any perspective?
domathy
22-04-2011, 08:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yyL8J.png
how is a person suppose to get there protein
Make sure you read the whole article as it explains how greens and oils are most important. As yourbodyisall correctly says, gorillas build muscle with greens and we can do the same as have similar intestinal tract. But you need to eat lots of greens if you want to really live that way.
You need a good a good mix of oils, greens, and protein from lentils, beans, nuts, seeds, etc.
My body is not in fantastic shape and my muscles as strong as they probably could be and I do not eat meat. People comment on how tones my muscles are and all without animal protien.
Truth is, in an ideal world we would need hardly any protien as much of the nutrients would be recycled. But the world we live in is pretty taxing, so need more protien as nutrients get spent instead of being recycled.
Its important to keep the colon clean so you can absorb nutrients more effectivley.
Bear in mind meat is totally unecessary. Its a recreational food as much of the protien is denatured during cooking.
domathy
22-04-2011, 08:27 PM
I found it easier to gain muscle when I stopped eating meat actually. Meat might have a high protein content by itself but that doesn't mean its very bio-available. And cooking reduces the usable protein of anything by at least 50%.
I get most of my protein from raw nuts and some leafy greens. I haven't experienced any protein problems, just listen to your body and it will tell you what it needs.
The classic example is the Gorilla which has huge muscles but eats mostly fruit and some greens and nuts.
Great post. I was just saying I gain muscle so much easier on a plant based diet - its like i can feel my body sucking up the nutrients and turning it into muscle when i exercise. ALso recovery time is much shorter. Plenty of raw greens and loads of wheatgrass (4 x more protien than meat - plus the protien is 100% bio-available, unlike meat as you say)
I think the gorilla gets oils from eating monkey brains :rolleyes:eek: once in a while (brain is 80% omega fatty acid) :D
domathy
22-04-2011, 08:38 PM
Brilliant post. I have been a vegetarian for several years now and thought I was eating perfectly healthy. This post woke me up to the acid/alkaline issue with regards to diet. Thank you.
Now I was just wondering, say with a "true" carnivore/omnivore, like a dog, does the opposite follow? As in will too much alkalinity in their diet destroy their health? Just wondering if you had any perspective?
THanks for your post,
I was raised veggie and know all to well that you need to know what youre doing or can end up low in nutrients and over acidic.
I have heard of animals being healthy on veggie diet. Dr Young who compiled all this alklaine info works with pets as well as humans, and works on lions, panthers etc etc. In the wild these animals eat the intestines first (full of alklaine grasses) as they need alkalinity to be healthy. Dr Y in is California and celebs keep these animals domestically and they often get sich due to acidity - so Dr Y feeds them greens to reverse cancer, diabetes etc in these animals. So is good to feed your pet at least some broccoli etc.
Carnivores have a shorter intestine and higher acid levels designed for eating meat and processing it quickly (before it rots, as it does in the long meandering human intestinal tract) - but can also eat veg too.
nirvana
22-04-2011, 08:48 PM
Is there any evidence that people live longer on this diet?
Is there a few healthy people past the age of 100 or do people still die at the average age?
Its all very confusing .I know a guy who is in his 80's and he eats really unhealthy but he is healthy.:confused: He is also a heavy smoker :confused:
domathy
22-04-2011, 09:36 PM
Is there any evidence that people live longer on this diet?
Is there a few healthy people past the age of 100 or do people still die at the average age?
Its all very confusing .I know a guy who is in his 80's and he eats really unhealthy but he is healthy.:confused: He is also a heavy smoker :confused:
Im not sure on that. I trained with Dr Young - last time i checked his bone density was still increasing well into his 50's.....that's a pretty good sign this approach works. This diet is adapted for the modern world according to blood profiles of people today and according to the corruption of specific foods in modern food production. To be honest im feeling great now and thats whats important to me. We all know someone who smokes etc and lives to an old age. But is that health? Its one thing to survive, and quite another thing to thrive.
I test peoples blood for a living:
http://www.scribd.com/full/52947976?...vpg5u7pw2im2ak
And the blood never lies. You can see in the pictures what healthy blood looks like. You need good blood if you want to have a seriously healthy body. Despite chemtrails, HAARP etc blah blah - Im healthier now than Ive ever been and get healthier with each year that passes. At times, I have practically unlimited amount of energy for physical activity. And I never ever get ill. HAvent had a doctor for over 8 years now.
Serious longevity is not possible in this day and age (plus other factors i believe) but this approach is the best way to stay on an even keel and upward trend.
hermitical
22-04-2011, 11:15 PM
sorry, couldn't open the scribd link?
actually, if the link above is the same as in the first post then don't worry!
manmade
22-04-2011, 11:26 PM
Is that to create negative ions? I wonder if a salad spinner would do it. I posted here a while back about a salad spinner repurposed into a blood spinner (http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=126163&highlight=salad+spinner). Maybe we could repurpose a salad spinner to spin water. It is the action, it is when water crashes, like at a waterfall, or at the ocean, or in the shower, or when it pours rain, in which the water releases the negative ions which are good for our health.
Negative ions are really positive and positive ions are really negative. Allegedly, the terms 'negative' and 'positive' applied to the ions are a misnomer we can credit to Benjamin Franklin because at that time in the 1700's, atoms were not understood, and even though later they were more understood, the names given them had just stuck and were never changed. Positive ions will steal electrons from your body, and from what I've read, positive (really negative) ions are almost identical to protons. domathy mentioned that vinegar is proton saturated and will steal electrons from the body.
Negative (that are actually positive) ions can cure depression and kill bacteria in the air and perform other beneficial things. We have much less negative ions in our atmosphere now than in olden times and we have much more positive (actually negative) ions in the atmosphere, especially in cities due to pollution and other environmental factors.
Positive ions will make us restless and crabby among other things.
That reminds me of this thing I saw.. I forget the details exactly but there were these people somewhere in Asia who would spend quite long periods of time spinning around in circles really fast with their arms out to the side. I wonder if it works along the same lines as swirling water creating a vortex because our bodies are mostly water.
jconnar
23-04-2011, 12:08 AM
What about chocolate? Thats pretty acidic for you?
If you drink more water help to bring your body back into balance?
cantata
23-04-2011, 08:41 AM
these people somewhere in Asia who would spend quite long periods of time spinning around in circles really fast with their arms out to the side.
The Whirling Dervishes of Turkey? (They spin to put themselves into spiritual frenzy/ecstacy - the religious purpose of it - and, nowadays, to amuse tourists too!)
:)
eta: I would have wondered what happens to these guys' brains from all that whirling... but that's another topic, isn't it..?
domathy
24-04-2011, 04:17 PM
What about chocolate? Thats pretty acidic for you?
If you drink more water help to bring your body back into balance?
I still eat chocolate (thats my one food vice) - yes its acidic and also they ferment the cocoa beans so thats not great either. They say dark choc is good (the anti oxidant line is just a sales pitch as cocoa is big business) but the theobromine content is much higher than in milk. If i eat too much dark choc then I get a headace (from the theobromine). So i stick to organic milk choc and compensate by taking bicarb (which alklaizes the kidneys), clay (thread coming soon) and magnesium oxide (thread coming soon). Water is essential too.
Trouble is, as this stuff i listed is so effective, it means my body recovers from the choc really quickly and I can easily munch 200g of choc in a day with out getting that "ugh I've eaten too much chocolate" feeling. But I know I am clearing the acids out and eat loads of healthy stuff and do periodic fasts and cleanses so in the long run it all balances out. I will aim to kick the habit eventually but giving up drugs was easy compared to chocolate :D
theabbot 7
24-04-2011, 06:14 PM
yeah um.. lentils have a lot of protein.. i get 90 grams of protein from lentils per day ( have them 3x a day with rice + fish) and i cook up oatmeal with water, and mix hemp cereal in it... am i have too much protein? cuz im eating more than 200grams of protein per day when i count everything else...
creation
24-04-2011, 08:03 PM
I drink lemon juice every day with cold water its very refreshing and is probably the most simple effective way of alkalizing the body, i simply feel better after drinking it, i don't know where i would be without my lemons. :p
knewt01
25-04-2011, 12:15 PM
Domathy - thank you so much for this post. I can't believe people (even gps) don't know about this stuff. I didn't until recently and I only came across it through trial and error trying to cure myself of things that modern medicine only trys to mask. I am currently treating myself for chronic psoriasis and joint inflammation and the results have been amazing so far. I am also supplementing with probiotics as I believe this to be the reason why I am so prone to infections in the first place.
Great post - get yourselves alkaline people!! :)
domathy
26-04-2011, 08:02 PM
yeah um.. lentils have a lot of protein.. i get 90 grams of protein from lentils per day ( have them 3x a day with rice + fish) and i cook up oatmeal with water, and mix hemp cereal in it... am i have too much protein? cuz im eating more than 200grams of protein per day when i count everything else...
I'm sorry for the late reply. I think what you are eating is fine if you feel it works for you. Its over consumption of animal protien that is the real problem.
Try using bicarb to keep your pH on the alkaline side also make sure you eat plenty of veg.
I drink lemon juice every day with cold water its very refreshing and is probably the most simple effective way of alkalizing the body, i simply feel better after drinking it, i don't know where i would be without my lemons. :p
Very alkalizing and oxygenating.
Domathy - thank you so much for this post. I can't believe people (even gps) don't know about this stuff. I didn't until recently and I only came across it through trial and error trying to cure myself of things that modern medicine only trys to mask. I am currently treating myself for chronic psoriasis and joint inflammation and the results have been amazing so far. I am also supplementing with probiotics as I believe this to be the reason why I am so prone to infections in the first place.
Great post - get yourselves alkaline people!! :)
Focus on alkalinity and less on probiotics. When you eat plenty of greens you provide fertile soil for your body to restore healthy flora, and drinking bicarb will really help your situation. Here's what Dr Young says:
Food digests from the inside out not the outside in. You need no enzymes or probiotics to digest food if you chew it well. Bacteria and enzymes are the waste products of digested foods and drinks. In fact, when the food or drink has a tangy or fizzy taste it is fermenting and that is when you know it is full of bacteria and acid that can make you sick, tired and fat.
We need to clean up our guts with alkalizing foods and drinks and throw away our probiotics and our digestive enzymes and start drinking salt water and sodium bicarbonate to help alkalize the food we eat and to help maintain the alkalinity
of the mouth, stomach and intestines. The pH of the stomach should not be at
1.5 to 3 but should be at 7.2 to 8.2. The stomach is not an organ of digestion
but an alkalizing organ that produces sodium bicarbonate to alkalize the food
and drink we eat in preparation for the small intestine. It is in the small
intestine where food is transformed into new blood. This happens in an alkaline
environment of 8.2 to 8.4 pH.
The reason obesity is associated with sugar and bacteria is when bacteria
ferments sugar it becomes acid (acetlyaldehyde and alcohol) and the body retains
fat to buffer or park these acids to protect the organs that sustain life. If
we want to be healthy and fit we need to maintain the alkaline design of our
body's and get off all our acidic foods, drinks and supplements. This includes
digestive enzymes and probiotics which are all acidic and a major contributor to
digestive disorders including cancer.
knewt01
26-04-2011, 08:34 PM
Thanks domathy - I may well drop the pbs in time, but they did seem to improve things drastically (I was obviously majorly lacking after thirty-odd years of abuse and neglect) before I started on the ph thing so am a bit hesitant to stop just yet. I have a funeral to attend this week and don't want any breakouts for this, so may ease off next week.
Would you care to be my on-line GP during this little experiment? You can't be any worse than my actual GP who looks at me like I have just done a turd on his desk when I mention this. :D
blue2
26-04-2011, 08:37 PM
Knewt01 you can see about it on www.phkillscancer.com too about the PH and this guy purports to get rid of his bone cancer in 11 days,his protocol is on there too,he held it at 8.0 for four days. www.luogocomune.net too is good. I know Bicarb works as it quickly gets rid of heartburn a teaspoon in water and i use Aspalls Organic Cyder Vinegar teaspoon of and it can be used each two hours for colds and flu. Be ready for lots of visits to loo on some days and drink more water.
There are other threads already on this forum just do a search on Bicarbonate Soda and one on Salt and MARK1963 was the first to do a thread on salt, there is The Good Salt Company too online. Mineral;s from sole So-Lay are also alkalising see www.detoxyourworld.com for Himalayan Pink Salt.
Also might interest you is www.bluelagoon.com it is in Iceland and they have the Clinic there for psoriasis-you can buy the minerals,Hot mineral springs there.Hemp oil too may be good for you.
Calamine lotion is soothng too applied frequently. Black coal tar used to be used in uk for it. Coal tar soap too..NHR Organics might have something-they do a nice soothing Camomile lotion/cream. Candida overegrowth internally maybe causing so alakising is good to do.
I love Puy lentils rather than orange ones much better and Merchant Gourmet do them,love them with olive oil sprinkled over and Himalayan salt. Organic Virgin Coconut oil would be nice on your skin too. As would Salt, the brine so- lay, from Himalayan salt internally and externally.
knewt01
26-04-2011, 08:47 PM
Thanks for info blue2 - I already know about the toilet visits!! Not that you probably want to know, but I'm a sharing kind of person, so I'll tell y'all (:D) - very interesting effect on urine from the sodium bicarb. I'm not sure if this an indefinate thing or dependant on how acid you actually are, but urine almost smells like beer when I'm on it - which kind of makes sense, I suppose.
Really noticed it the first day and the second day I woke up with pains where I think the kidneys are - which worried me a bit. Five days in now and no more pains. Inflamed toe has come down brilliantly, and that was bad for about a month, psoriasis is almost completely gone on hands and subsiding on feet. Other than that, am feeling great. Hope you don't mind my sharing!!
domathy
26-04-2011, 08:57 PM
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Cool :) also i seen you mention in a post above that quinoa is like cous cous which ive had a lot of times and know what can go with that. As ive just mentioned in a previous post, i dont eat a lot so my breakfast could be the avocados, dinner could be broccoli etc and my main meal could be quinoa with a sauce, so that way it should be with in the 80/20 ratio and the more i learn about these food types the more stuff i can include and more variety i can add :)
Thanks :o i dont mind having the runs cause of what youve said now hehe, and like i said its not like a body bug where it happens all day, it just seems to empty whats in your bowel, so any other readers wondering about it, its really not a problem, just be warned! try a lil tester fart before you let one rip :D i also like the idea that bicard can be so easy to take but does such a good thing in a small drink :)
One last thing, i read your thread to my girlfriend and shes interested but started asking me about the PH balance of food stuffs... i remember you mentioned that the normal method of checking foods PH isnt accurate enough as it incinerates the sugars (so checking ph on google isnt so useful.) So instead of me filling this thread up with 1000's of questions asking about individual foods PH, is there a website/link you can provide which would show different food stuffs real PH?
Again thanks for taking the time to respond :)
I was skimming this thread for a FAQ page for my own clients and realsied I missed one of your questions. Here's a chart with food pH values:
http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html
the lost
27-04-2011, 09:07 PM
I was skimming this thread for a FAQ page for my own clients and realsied I missed one of your questions. Here's a chart with food pH values:
http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html
thanks for that dom :)
i think it'll be really handy to everyone as well because other food ph values listed on sites (as you implied) are misleading cause of the process they use.
i was trying to cut out tomatoes and carrots cause i read they have chemicals that can mimic or increase estrogen which could lower libido (and mine is low enough) but im gonna go back on them cause i enjoy them and the few months ive spent off them didnt help anyway.
one last thing, i couldnt find broccoli on that list, so roughly what would you rate it, as i eat that a lot.
theabbot 7
27-04-2011, 11:47 PM
peace domathy What are the immediate side effects of too much acid in the body? For example: Drinking to much cups of coffee for a week straight.
lighthouse
28-04-2011, 09:37 AM
For example: Drinking to much cups of coffee for a week straight.
Feeling awake and being able to work? :D
domathy
28-04-2011, 09:37 PM
peace domathy What are the immediate side effects of too much acid in the body? For example: Drinking to much cups of coffee for a week straight.
This kind of answers your question in a generalised kind of way:
Alkalinity creates. . .
Sense of oneness & harmony
Allows for friendly bacteria
Healthy organs & glands
Decreased body aches
Diminished illness
Relaxed behavior
Mucousless body
Cellular health
Well-being
Happiness
Acidity creates. . .
Irritability
Depression
Mucous build-up
Autointoxication
Anxious behavior
Increased illness
Cellular degradation
Increases body aches
Allows for bad bacteria
Sense of separation & pain
theabbot 7
29-04-2011, 02:10 PM
Your body should be between 6.5 and 7.5 although I'm going to guess it's resilient enough to do another .5 in either direction without being noticeable, but I wouldn't try it. You want a neutral 7.4, because we are... water based and water is a 7.
Increasing the acidity or alkalinity of your body is dangerous. Overly Acidic is not healthy, but being too alkaline is worse. If you're worried about your body acidity simply take a health supplement. Calcium, sodium, potassium, and magnesium (Ie. electrolytes you can get in gatorade) should replace what is being used to neutralize acids. Stay away from massive amounts of acids, but most things are acidic.
domathy
29-04-2011, 03:29 PM
Your body should be between 6.5 and 7.5 although I'm going to guess it's resilient enough to do another .5 in either direction without being noticeable, but I wouldn't try it. You want a neutral 7.4, because we are... water based and water is a 7.
Increasing the acidity or alkalinity of your body is dangerous. Overly Acidic is not healthy, but being too alkaline is worse. If you're worried about your body acidity simply take a health supplement. Calcium, sodium, potassium, and magnesium (Ie. electrolytes you can get in gatorade) should replace what is being used to neutralize acids. Stay away from massive amounts of acids, but most things are acidic.
Blood is 7.365. Not much tolerance for fluctuation so the body constantly makes adustments to maintain balance. It takes 20 parts base to buffer 1 part acid in the body, also pH scale moves in increments of ten. So pH 4 (cup of coffee) is 1000 x more acidic than blood. If someones blood is too alkaline it is the result of systemic over acidity - the body is dumping alkaline minerals (sod, pot, cal, mag) into blood as an emergency measure. Acidity is the problem.
I drink tons of salt, bicarb, alkaline water, green veg and have NEVER become too alklaine. Acids are constantly being produced, even from healthy metabolism and it is practically impossible to become too alklaine unless you ingest something really silly.
Do not drink gatorade, it is high acid and proton saturated:
Gatorade is a 3.5 pH and its ORP is +325 :eek: :eek:
The body will leach calcium brom bones and magnesium from muscles in an attempt to buffer acid and neutralize protons when you drink such drinks.
http://www.thewatersofisis.com/why-ph-and-orp-are-important
If you read the article I wrote then you will understand what is being discussed here.
sgh1971
30-04-2011, 05:31 AM
Your body should be between 6.5 and 7.5 although I'm going to guess it's resilient enough to do another .5 in either direction without being noticeable, but I wouldn't try it. You want a neutral 7.4, because we are... water based and water is a 7.
Increasing the acidity or alkalinity of your body is dangerous. Overly Acidic is not healthy, but being too alkaline is worse. If you're worried about your body acidity simply take a health supplement. Calcium, sodium, potassium, and magnesium (Ie. electrolytes you can get in gatorade) should replace what is being used to neutralize acids. Stay away from massive amounts of acids, but most things are acidic.
Question: Since the majority of the foods we (humans) are designed to eat are alkaline in nature, how can it be that becoming too alkaline would be more dangerous than being too acidic?
I really am not trying to be an ass here, but it seems to follow the same logic that meat consumers throw at vegetarians all the time about the dangers of being protein deficient.
knewt01
30-04-2011, 11:10 AM
Does anybody have access to any studies that prove "over-alkalinity" pros and cons?
theabbot 7
30-04-2011, 08:06 PM
imma going to print this out and save this...great thread
domathy
01-05-2011, 06:23 PM
imma going to print this out and save this...great thread
Cool, just ask if you have any more questions at any point.
knewt01
01-05-2011, 06:24 PM
Does anybody have access to any studies that prove "over-alkalinity" pros and cons?
Guess not :)
domathy
01-05-2011, 06:26 PM
Guess not :)
The silence speaks volumes :)
reptilianwizard
02-05-2011, 02:35 AM
will have a look at this tomorrow when I get up, too tired now and that looks like alot of info.
If you can answer me this Domathy, when you are on this diet would you advise not to smoke weed?
Thanks,
RW
domathy
02-05-2011, 09:19 PM
will have a look at this tomorrow when I get up, too tired now and that looks like alot of info.
If you can answer me this Domathy, when you are on this diet would you advise not to smoke weed?
Thanks,
RW
If you must use weed then it is much better to ingest, as smoking changes molecular structure. Also avoid tobacco or switch to american spirit.
theabbot 7
03-05-2011, 05:04 PM
can you tell me the ph of the following:
orange juice
pineapple juice
cranberry juice
fruits:
is guava any good
theabbot 7
08-05-2011, 08:50 PM
bump
0ddity
16-05-2011, 10:39 PM
Do water ionizers actually work?
domathy
06-06-2011, 10:39 AM
can you tell me the ph of the following:
orange juice
pineapple juice
cranberry juice
fruits:
is guava any good
Here is a list of acid/alklaine fruits.
Bear in mind this doesnt take into account sugar content or proton saturation.
Or wether the fruit was picked before ripening (which they do for ease of transportation and to keep it fresh) which adds acidity.
Not too sure about guava though.
domathy
06-06-2011, 10:40 AM
Do water ionizers actually work?
Yes, the water is alklaine and electron saturated. I have tested the water from my machine and it is antioxidant water.
stillwakingup
06-06-2011, 11:42 AM
Yes, the water is alklaine and electron saturated. I have tested the water from my machine and it is antioxidant water.
Hi Dom,
Any idea on re price re water ionizers? Do you use a water filter as well with the ionizer?( apologies if this is a stupid question I am not very well up in how it works!)
thx:)
domathy
06-06-2011, 01:19 PM
Hi Dom,
Any idea on re price re water ionizers? Do you use a water filter as well with the ionizer?( apologies if this is a stupid question I am not very well up in how it works!)
thx:)
There is a pre-filter which is built in. You need to change the filter cartridges every so often and they cost about £30 - we get through one in a month or two but we probably filter about 20 litres of water per day.
The filter contains carbon and other materials to remove the really nasty stuff in tap water, but it allows minerals to pass through as you need some mineral content for the ionising process to work. Its is actually the minerals which hold the electrical charge in ionized water. So no minerals means no negative ionization. The machine separates acid/alkaline minerals from mains water, and then ionizes the alklaine minerals/water and that is the water with comes out of the filter for you to drink. There is a 'waste' water pipe with carries the acidic minerals and water out of the machine and into the sink.
Acid water has some uses too so you can collect the acid water and also the machine produces low pH water on demand too.
I use a jupiter microlite - jupiter make a range of machines (melody and i forget the other) The microlite is the cheapest - as, it doesnt have the pre-cleaning facility. Basically, alklaine mineral deposits build inside the unit so the machine runs a cleaning cycle whereby it produces acid water for about 20 secs to dissolve the deposits. So there is a tune which plays, indicating not to drink this water being produced. So, in other words, you go to collect water but have to wait 20 secs for the machine to finish doing its thing. Other models are more fancy and you dont have to wait 20 secs. The water is the same though.
I Fill up a 2 litre water butt each time so is not a problem for me. (and you can bypass the cleaning mode if you are in a rush, and maybe run an extra acid cycle later on to compensate)
Microlite costs between £400-500 so its a case of googling to see what offers you can find. Otherwise just ask and ill point you to a reliable supplier.
Cheers :)
stillwakingup
06-06-2011, 02:19 PM
Thanks Dom,you are more than helpful and its apreciated.:):)
theabbot 7
06-06-2011, 03:58 PM
Here is a list of acid/alklaine fruits.
Bear in mind this doesnt take into account sugar content or proton saturation.
Or wether the fruit was picked before ripening (which they do for ease of transportation and to keep it fresh) which adds acidity.
Not too sure about guava though.
??
domathy
06-06-2011, 04:01 PM
??
Sorry! Big dur-brain moment:
http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html
domathy
06-06-2011, 05:10 PM
Sorry, my friend, but the stomach contains so much hydrochloric acid at such a low pH it would not be possible to "alkalise" the body. And if you did you would kill yourself!
Hi,
Firstly, quackwatch is operated on behalf of big pharma - a court case proved this. To be featured quackwatch is a comliment as it means you are ruffling feathers.
Secondly, on the subject of stomach pH:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=169478
Thirdly: no alkalizing advocate is claiming to alter blood pH. The blood has a constant pH of 7.365. I suggest you look at my article which addreses this issue: (click the scribd link at top of page)
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165023
cheers :)
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.htmlJust eat healthily and drink plenty of water!
Acid/Alkaline Theory of Disease Is Nonsense
Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
Have you seen advertisements for products such as coral calcium or alkaline water that are supposed to neutralize acid in your bloodstream? Taking calcium or drinking alkaline water does not affect blood acidity. Anyone who tells you that certain foods or supplements make your stomach or blood acidic does not understand nutrition.
You should not believe that it matters whether foods are acidic or alkaline, because no foods change the acidity of anything in your body except your urine. Your stomach is so acidic that no food can change its acidity. Citrus fruits, vinegar, and vitamins such as ascorbic acid or folic acid do not change the acidity of your stomach or your bloodstream. An entire bottle of calcium pills or antacids would not change the acidity of your stomach for more than a few minutes.
All foods that leave your stomach are acidic. Then they enter your intestines where secretions from your pancreas neutralize the stomach acids. So no matter what you eat, the food in stomach is acidic and the food in the intestines is alkaline.
Dietary modification cannot change the acidity of any part of your body except your urine. Your bloodstream and organs control acidity in a very narrow range. Anything that changed acidity in your body would make you very sick and could even kill you. Promoters of these products claim that cancer cells cannot live in an alkaline environment and that is true, but neither can any of the other cells in your body.
All chemical reactions in your body are started by chemicals called enzymes. For example, if you convert chemical A to chemical B and release energy, enzymes must start these reactions. All enzymes function in a very narrow range of acidity. (The degree of acidity or alkalinity is expressed as "pH."). If your blood changes its acidity or alkalinity for any reason, it is quickly changed back to the normal pH or these enzymes would not function and the necessary chemical reactions would not proceed in your body.
For example, when you hold your breath, carbon dioxide accumulates in your bloodstream very rapidly and your blood turns acidic, and you will become uncomfortable or even pass out. This forces you to start breathing again immediately, and the pH returns to normal. If your kidneys are damaged and cannot regulate the acidity of your bloodstream, chemical reactions stop, poisons accumulate in your bloodstream, and you can die.
Certain foods can leave end-products called ash that can make your urine acid or alkaline, but urine is the only body fluid that can have its acidity changed by food or supplements. ALKALINE-ASH FOODS include fresh fruit and raw vegetables. ACID-ASH FOODS include ALL ANIMAL PRODUCTS, whole grains, beans and other seeds. These foods can change the acidity of your urine, but that's irrelevant since your urine is contained in your bladder and does not affect the pH of any other part of your body.
When you take in more protein than your body needs, your body cannot store it, so the excess amino acids are converted to organic acids that would acidify your blood. But your blood never becomes acidic because as soon as the proteins are converted to organic acids, calcium leaves your bones to neutralize the acid and prevent any change in pH. Because of this, many scientists think that taking in too much protein may weaken bones to cause osteoporosis.
Cranberries have been shown to help prevent recurrent urinary tract infections, but not because of their acidity. They contain chemicals that prevent bacteria from sticking to urinary tract cells.
Taking calcium supplements or drinking alkaline water will not change the pH of your blood. If you hear someone say that your body is too acidic and you should use their product to make it more alkaline, you would be wise not to believe anything else the person tells you.
Dr. Mirkin, who practices medicine in Kensington, Maryland, is board-certified in four specialties: allergy and immunology; sports medicine; pediatrics; and pediatric immunology. He has served as a teaching fellow at Johns Hopkins Medical School, Assistant Professor at the University of Maryland, and Associate Clinical Professor in Pediatrics at the Georgetown University School of Medicine. He has written 16 books on sportsmedicine, weight control, and low-fat eating. His Web site offers broadcasts and reports on thousands of topics. He also offers a free weekly e-mail newsletter.
This article was revised on January 11, 2009.
It doesn't matter if the website is allegedly paid for by "Big Pharma" that document is correct information. I knew this information already and linked it for you to read. That was an "ad-hominen" attack. You did not address the perfectly valid science in the article.
Really my friend, statements like this :- "Except the acids in lemon juice are volatile, and evaporate quickly leaving behind an alklaine ash and 1/3 rd available oxygen.
"
Are also nonsense. The acids in Lemon juice are citric and Tartaric acid. These do not "evaporate" either quickly or at all. If you allow a solution of citric acid to evaporate off it's water you will get crystals of citric acid left behind. The citric acid does not "evaporate". That is simply incorrect science.
Please apologise to all on your thread and get your money back from the "water ionising" company. You have sadly been mislead into buying the "ionising" machine from some quack New Age pseudo scientist company. Get your money back from them as it is not possible to "add electrons" to water! :D Water would simply electrolyse in the presence of salts and would give off hydrogen and oxygen gas.
Oh, and I do know what I'm talking about, I was trained and educated as a scientist and worked in "Big Pharma" for over 20 years. I therefore know that the scientists in "big pharma" are well meaning good people who make a humble living making new drugs that cure people of diseases.
It is the managers and HR that are the evil buggers, not the scientists. This leads to malpractice by "Big Pharma" and dodgy dealings, the evil of the bosses of the company, driven by shareholder greed. Doctors and Scientists are good honest people.
Please don't delude yourself anymore with this "alkalising" nonsense! It is just New Age money making claptrap.
Take care
Look, lets just agree to disagree on this.
I have seen urine and saliva pH ot 1000's of people increase or decrease according to what they eat drink and by increasing pH have cured themselves of 'incurable' diseased. ie Type 1 diabetes in just 12 weeks of alkalising. Chronic kidney disease reversed in the same number of weeks.
Feel free to post on the thread but i just cant be bothered tbh (although i respect your right to your own opinion)
You didnt read my articles (i knew in advance that you wouldnt...sceptics never do lol) so I dont bother to read the quackshite stuff. As such it impossible to objectivley discuss this so, hence I request that we agree to disagree.
Is it possible to do the volcano experiment with lemon juice which has been stood round exposed to the air for a little while? I know it is acidic as I use it as a citric acid substitute when converting citric acid to chlorine dioxide to drink. Im not scientific tbh, but what Dr Young says all checks out, but that said, I may have misquoted him on the lemon thing -(regarding the mechanics anyway) but I know for an absolute fact that lemons have an alklaizing effect within in the body.
EDIT: true, you can add electons to water, but you can negativley ionize alklaine minerals in the water.
Alkaline water ORP test - YouTube
knewt01
06-06-2011, 05:17 PM
Look, lets just agree to disagree on this.
I have seen urine and saliva pH ot 1000's of people increase or decrease according to what they eat drink and by increasing pH have cured themselves of 'incurable' diseased. ie Type 1 diabetes in just 12 weeks of alkalising. Chronic kidney disease reversed in the same number of weeks.
Feel free to post on the thread but i just cant be bothered tbh (although i respect your right to your own opinion)
You didnt read my articles (i knew in advance that you wouldnt...sceptics never do lol) so I dont bother to read the quackshite stuff. As such it impossible to objectivley discuss this so, hence I request that we agree to disagree.
Is it possible to do the volcano experiment with lemon juice which has been stood round exposed to the air for a little while? I know it is acidic as I use it as a citric acid substitute when converting citric acid to chlorine dioxide to drink. Im not scientific tbh, but what Dr Young says all checks out, but that said, I may have misquoted him on the lemon thing -(regarding the mechanics anyway) but I know for an absolute fact that lemons have an alklaizing effect within in the body.
EDIT: true, you can add electons to water, but you can negativley ionize alklaine minerals in the water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMR8roO9dkk
Why would you PM something like this? Don't let the fuckers wear you down, Dom! :D
As for "new age money making". Dude, I bought some sodium bicarbonate from Boots. :rolleyes:
EDIT: £1.55!!!:eek:
stillwakingup
06-06-2011, 05:44 PM
Why would you PM something like this? Don't let the fuckers wear you down, Dom! :D
As for "new age money making". Dude, I bought some sodium bicarbonate from Boots. :rolleyes:
EDIT: £1.55!!!:eek:
+ most of the rest of us:D:D
domathy
06-06-2011, 05:50 PM
Why would you PM something like this? Don't let the fuckers wear you down, Dom! :D
As for "new age money making". Dude, I bought some sodium bicarbonate from Boots. :rolleyes:
EDIT: £1.55!!!:eek:
:cool:
+ most of the rest of us:D:D
:cool:
So, you guys....did you explode when you drank bicarb?
(i'll save you the trouble of answering)
"No Dom, we didnt)
Well, i guess that proves the stomach pH is not 1.5-3 :cool:
quackbusters.com be whackbusters.com
"Remove the acids and that old sports injury can heal."
Just quoted that here so I can go through my previous posts and read through this when I have more time, thanks. I've had problems with my heel injury since I was 13 (4 years ago); tore the achilles tendon and a ligament around the heel area, took 8 months to recover but still get pain now and then... :-/
godmoktail
11-06-2011, 04:42 PM
Thanks for sharing the info, Domathy. I've had a mild/minor candida (yeast) problem for a while, and decided that I need to change my diet. I made a post on Seborrheic dermatitis earlier.
I know you said you would make a post on alkalized water, but wanted to share this here (will do in the new thread too). I went to a candle/spiritual store in Brooklyn, NY, after finding this video:
http://youtu.be/DHlDPQQQeqA
I bought one of those Quartz water bottles (16 oz, $30). What do you think of the video, and the claims about the water bottles. I really like the bottle (although expensive), and am feeling better already (placebo or not). Alkalizing water/tea/juice on contact, once in the bottle? Sounds too good to be true.
Thanks again for the info.
bluesworthy
11-06-2011, 09:41 PM
Hi domathy, thanks for all the great threads. I agree with most of the things you write and you seem very knowledgeable on the subject. I have been observing my own health very closely the last few months and although I eat very healthy/alkaline, there are still some changes I would like to make. Before I get into anything too serious, I want to have my metal fillings removed and clean out my digestive tract.
For the digestive system, I have been looking at some supplementation with Bicarb, Clay, Magnesium Oxide and/or Epsom salts. I had a question about sources and what to look for when purchasing. I have found this source for MagOxide:
http://www.equinenutrition.ca/product/80460
It is for horses but claims to be pharmaceutical grade. I have read about some pretty serious side affects related to MagOxide. Just wondering if you had any suggestions related to sources and side affects. I will be looking for Bicarb and Epsom salts soon too, so I guess the same questions apply there. If you interested in having me go into more detail I could PM you sometime. Thanks man.
moods999
14-06-2011, 12:08 AM
Hi, What do you think about the Algaes E3 Life , Spirulina and Chlorella?
domathy
14-06-2011, 07:59 PM
"Remove the acids and that old sports injury can heal."
Just quoted that here so I can go through my previous posts and read through this when I have more time, thanks. I've had problems with my heel injury since I was 13 (4 years ago); tore the achilles tendon and a ligament around the heel area, took 8 months to recover but still get pain now and then... :-/
Alkalizing will really help. As would bathing in epsom salts. Clay packs (applying wet clay and wrapping with muslin cloth/cling film) are another option. I had a client who broke both legs when his parachute failed to open (2nd chute opened just enough to slow the fall so he didnt die). Spent 20 odd yrs on 2 crutches....but after 3 months alkalizing he was on just 1 walking stick 50% of the time and then the other 50% of the time he had no walking sticks and was walking normally with no pain. The injury was over 20 yrs old but as soon as the acids went the bones were able to repair.
Thanks for sharing the info, Domathy. I've had a mild/minor candida (yeast) problem for a while, and decided that I need to change my diet. I made a post on Seborrheic dermatitis earlier.
I know you said you would make a post on alkalized water, but wanted to share this here (will do in the new thread too). I went to a candle/spiritual store in Brooklyn, NY, after finding this video:
http://youtu.be/DHlDPQQQeqA
I bought one of those Quartz water bottles (16 oz, $30). What do you think of the video, and the claims about the water bottles. I really like the bottle (although expensive), and am feeling better already (placebo or not). Alkalizing water/tea/juice on contact, once in the bottle? Sounds too good to be true.
Thanks again for the info.
I will look into that. I have heard of bottles/jug filters which raise pH and orp (electron activity) - but they dont filter the water though. I will check out that link.
Hi domathy, thanks for all the great threads. I agree with most of the things you write and you seem very knowledgeable on the subject. I have been observing my own health very closely the last few months and although I eat very healthy/alkaline, there are still some changes I would like to make. Before I get into anything too serious, I want to have my metal fillings removed and clean out my digestive tract.
For the digestive system, I have been looking at some supplementation with Bicarb, Clay, Magnesium Oxide and/or Epsom salts. I had a question about sources and what to look for when purchasing. I have found this source for MagOxide:
http://www.equinenutrition.ca/product/80460
It is for horses but claims to be pharmaceutical grade. I have read about some pretty serious side affects related to MagOxide. Just wondering if you had any suggestions related to sources and side affects. I will be looking for Bicarb and Epsom salts soon too, so I guess the same questions apply there. If you interested in having me go into more detail I could PM you sometime. Thanks man.
DOn't drink epsom salts (except for doing the odd liver flush) as they dehydrate the body and is not very good for you. This is contrary to what you read on the side of epsom salt packaging but, it really is not great to use as a source of dietary magnesium.
I use that horse mag oxide and think its totally fine (Ive used 1lb so far and havent died yet :)) I havent heard of any magoxide side effects - but will look into that and see if there's any truth in it.
Feel free to PM me anythime - Im a bit bogged down with emails and PMs but will reply asap :)
Hi, What do you think about the Algaes E3 Life , Spirulina and Chlorella?
Well, Dr Young says to avoid anything associated with the compost/recycling phase of life ie yeast, mushrooms, algae - but, that said I have heard that people swear by the brand you mention. Though, I heard that broccoli has more chlorophyll and that the B12 in algae comes from bird droppings on the surface of the lake. tbh I dont know, but I think there are much better supplements around. I use earth greens made by essante (its micro-ionized so has an electron field similar to the kirlian pic in the alklaizing article)
moods999
14-06-2011, 08:27 PM
David Wolfe said the most alkaline forming thing he knows are medicinal mushrooms and he seems pretty sure about that Dr. Young isnt correct?!
domathy
14-06-2011, 09:36 PM
David Wolfe said the most alkaline forming thing he knows are medicinal mushrooms and he seems pretty sure about that Dr. Young isnt correct?!
Dr Young's stuff checks out though. I went to the raw food festival about 10 yrs ago before training with Dr Young, and a friend was doing live/dry blood analysis there and said the blood profiles of these raw foodists were appalling.
I have been looking at blood samples and pH levels for 8 yrs and have looked at blood from people on every imaginable diet ie macro, raw, atkins etc etc - and i only ever see healthy blood on high alklaine foods.
Wolfe and gabriel cousins admitted in more recent books, that since understanding dr youngs research, that there is/was too much fruit and sugar
in their programmes and now advocate more leafy greens. Even tony robbins made a public apology for advocating fruit after Dr Young rescued his health when he was falling apart.
Do you have a link cos i'd love to hear what David Wolfe has to say about mushrooms. tbh, I dont know the science here, but I have no reason to question Dr Youngs stuff as it seems to work better than any other approach I have seen/tried.
moods999
14-06-2011, 09:43 PM
Dr Young's stuff checks out though. I went to the raw food festival about 10 yrs ago before training with Dr Young, and a friend was doing live/dry blood analysis there and said the blood profiles of these raw foodists were appalling.
I have been looking at blood samples and pH levels for 8 yrs and have looked at blood from people on every imaginable diet ie macro, raw, atkins etc etc - and i only ever see healthy blood on high alklaine foods.
Wolfe and gabriel cousins admitted in more recent books, that since understanding dr youngs research, that there is/was too much fruit and sugar
in their programmes and now advocate more leafy greens. Even tony robbins made a public apology for advocating fruit after Dr Young rescued his health when he was falling apart.
Do you have a link cos i'd love to hear what David Wolfe has to say about mushrooms. tbh, I dont know the science here, but I have no reason to question Dr Youngs stuff as it seems to work better than any other approach I have seen/tried. Yes its in one of this video series http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+wolfe+calcium&aq=0L&oq=david+wolfe+cal . In this video he says portobello mushrooms are not good but in a more recent video he said that even this cheap mushrooms are good against calcification.
domathy
15-06-2011, 12:56 PM
Yes its in one of this video series http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+wolfe+calcium&aq=0L&oq=david+wolfe+cal . In this video he says portobello mushrooms are not good but in a more recent video he said that even this cheap mushrooms are good against calcification.
All I can say is that on an alklaine diet you will not get build up of cholesterol of calcuim in the body. Both calcium and cholesterol are protective and are used to buffer acids, but, over time these substances build up in the body and cause probs. If you eliminate acid then you eliminate the need for cholesterol or calcuim to be used to buffer acids and therefore they dont accumulate. The pathway is the same for stones, crystals and deposits of any kind. It is thebody attempting to make liquid acids less of a threat by mixing with minerals to form a solid and then dumping the crystals/deposits somewhere. liquid acids can access brain and other vital organs, so the body uses calcuim/magnesium etc to buffer the acids and form a crystal. Cholesterol is a goey substance used to trap acid. The body tries to throw the acid crystals to the extremeties (gout, arthritis, stones etc) but some will inevitabley build up in veins/arteries which is not great but at least the acid is being neutralised.
Not sure about mushrooms though. I think they are very bad. But even if im wrong, they certainly arent essential. Im not sure if animals in the wild eat mushrooms - will google that.
scottishryan
15-06-2011, 01:32 PM
domathy, I would like to personally thank you for all this information...I have sat and read the full topic thus far and hope it keep going strong! Makes perfect sense!!
I'm beginning to implement small changes and starting to understand why I was drawn to fresh lemons in water daily and leafy greens upped in my current way of eating :D all intuitively too! (became vegetarian 18 months ago too)
I took the decision last weekend to drastically reduce or remove alcohol as I was sure it was now having a bad effect on my health. One thing I noticed and makes sense from reading these posts here....I used to wonder why My body seemed to produce large amounts of mucus the day after drinking, constant blowing of the nose and feeling low energy wise.... Overly ACID??
Funny how things click into place!
An absolute thanks for this topic...I will be following this topic and slowly running through all the changes ;)
domathy
15-06-2011, 01:46 PM
domathy, I would like to personally thank you for all this information...I have sat and read the full topic thus far and hope it keep going strong! Makes perfect sense!!
I'm beginning to implement small changes and starting to understand why I was drawn to fresh lemons in water daily and leafy greens upped in my current way of eating :D all intuitively too! (became vegetarian 18 months ago too)
I took the decision last weekend to drastically reduce or remove alcohol as I was sure it was now having a bad effect on my health. One thing I noticed and makes sense from reading these posts here....I used to wonder why My body seemed to produce large amounts of mucus the day after drinking, constant blowing of the nose and feeling low energy wise.... Overly ACID??
Funny how things click into place!
An absolute thanks for this topic...I will be following this topic and slowly running through all the changes ;)
You're welcome! Im glad it all makes sense and that you resonate.
Mucus is used by the body to trap acids and escort out of the body. Hence why people get 'flu'. The body has purges once or twice per year depending on the degree of toxicity in an individual. Spring and Autumn are the 2 main cleansing periods hence why lots of people get 'colds'. Mucus carries acids out hence why people get 'snot'. Other times when people get 'colds' are xmas and other over-indulgence times where the body must do an express purge to eliminate the extra toxins to stay on an even keel. I had some food with vinegar the other day and within 5 mins I had a 'runny nose'. So, you have made a correct correlation between alcohol and mucus. It is a goey sticky substance and very effectctive for buffering acid.
Mucus is produced in the small intestine too to stop the delicate tissue being burned by acid from coffee, sugar, pasteurized dairy etc, but, as the years go by, mucus builds up and reduces absorbtion, so its good to clean the colon to get rid of hardened mucus.
scottishryan
15-06-2011, 02:06 PM
Excellent information and clicking greatly!!
Our bodies are amazing and my train of thought is now heading down the tracks of using full awareness to monitor our reactions to what we consume. Mucus, skin rashes, energy levels and the like so we can effectively tweak ourselves for top health.
What a weird progression I have been through.....
I have went from a meat munching 300lb plus guy 2 years ago and then bang, a wake up when I discovered we can eat to body signals whereas I dropped 120+ lbs in a year and kept it off. On from that I turned vegetarian one day out the blue but still ate lots of unhealthy foods :D now the natural progression feels like reduction of my weekend drinking habit, eating more raw veg style but following the principles of this thread. Amazing and pretty exciting too!!
I wont even go into the realisation of conspiracies, spirituality and the whole plethora discussed all over the boards here. :p
domathy, what are your thoughts on MMS?
moods999
15-06-2011, 02:55 PM
All I can say is that on an alklaine diet you will not get build up of cholesterol of calcuim in the body. Both calcium and cholesterol are protective and are used to buffer acids, but, over time these substances build up in the body and cause probs. If you eliminate acid then you eliminate the need for cholesterol or calcuim to be used to buffer acids and therefore they dont accumulate. The pathway is the same for stones, crystals and deposits of any kind. It is thebody attempting to make liquid acids less of a threat by mixing with minerals to form a solid and then dumping the crystals/deposits somewhere. liquid acids can access brain and other vital organs, so the body uses calcuim/magnesium etc to buffer the acids and form a crystal. Cholesterol is a goey substance used to trap acid. The body tries to throw the acid crystals to the extremeties (gout, arthritis, stones etc) but some will inevitabley build up in veins/arteries which is not great but at least the acid is being neutralised.
Not sure about mushrooms though. I think they are very bad. But even if im wrong, they certainly arent essential. Im not sure if animals in the wild eat mushrooms - will google that.
Thank you! I will try your approach. IT IS THE BEST!
domathy
15-06-2011, 07:22 PM
Excellent information and clicking greatly!!
Our bodies are amazing and my train of thought is now heading down the tracks of using full awareness to monitor our reactions to what we consume. Mucus, skin rashes, energy levels and the like so we can effectively tweak ourselves for top health.
People think symptoms are the result of the body malfunctioning, but they are really just the result of the body trying to maintain homeostasis.
True what you say about monitoring reactions. I got a small rash between my eyebrows the other day......and I knew it was from some cheap chocolate I ate, my bodys way of saying "dont eat that shit again please" . People think I imagine it but i can link everything to what ive eaten.
What a weird progression I have been through.....
I have went from a meat munching 300lb plus guy 2 years ago and then bang, a wake up when I discovered we can eat to body signals whereas I dropped 120+ lbs in a year and kept it off. On from that I turned vegetarian one day out the blue but still ate lots of unhealthy foods :D now the natural progression feels like reduction of my weekend drinking habit, eating more raw veg style but following the principles of this thread. Amazing and pretty exciting too!!
Hey thats a good success story! Just keep learning and plodding along :)
I wont even go into the realisation of conspiracies, spirituality and the whole plethora discussed all over the boards here. :p
domathy, what are your thoughts on MMS?
MMS is awesome! Im experimenting with it atm and feels like its hitting the spots that alkalizing has failed to reach. I truly believe that on a 100% alklaine diet you can totally overhaul your health, but with chemtrails, stress, pollution etc etc I think MMS really gives extra support. Ive OD'd a couple times when playing about with high doses and made myself sick, but, its al good, it just means it is doing its job and confirms i still have metals and other toxins to clear out.
Thank you! I will try your approach. IT IS THE BEST!
Great, take from this what you want to use and also pick and choose from other approaches too.
scottishryan
15-06-2011, 08:29 PM
Excellent and thanks domathy!!
I have a small bottle of MMS here but never used it since last winter...Killed a cold within hours...Felt it come on and a few drops and whoosh :D
I was only up to 6 drops and over a few days and at that level had no reaction at all. Felt good and strong so may just do as you are and experiment a little....need some citric acid though so will need to look out the supplier site again as I have completely forgot the URL DOH lol :D
domathy
15-06-2011, 08:59 PM
Excellent and thanks domathy!!
I have a small bottle of MMS here but never used it since last winter...Killed a cold within hours...Felt it come on and a few drops and whoosh :D
I was only up to 6 drops and over a few days and at that level had no reaction at all. Felt good and strong so may just do as you are and experiment a little....need some citric acid though so will need to look out the supplier site again as I have completely forgot the URL DOH lol :D
Just use lemon juice...its purer that citric acid anyway. You need 5 x drops of lemon/lime juice per 1 x drop of sodium chlorite/MMS.
Has your MMS been kept in the dark and somewhere cool?
scottishryan
15-06-2011, 09:21 PM
Just use lemon juice...its purer that citric acid anyway. You need 5 x drops of lemon/lime juice per 1 x drop of sodium chlorite/MMS.
Has your MMS been kept in the dark and somewhere cool?
hmm not really...its in a dark bottle but been in the kitchen cupboard! Maybe better to buy another bottle of it? :o
Fresh Lemon juice or is bottled OK?
knewt01
16-06-2011, 05:23 AM
Just use lemon juice...its purer that citric acid anyway. You need 5 x drops of lemon/lime juice per 1 x drop of sodium chlorite/MMS.
Has your MMS been kept in the dark and somewhere cool?
Where's the best place to order MMS? Am guessing it can't be purchased from retail in the UK?
scottishryan
16-06-2011, 07:01 AM
Where's the best place to order MMS? Am guessing it can't be purchased from retail in the UK?
You can get it online in the UK from here - http://www.mmseurope.com/
;);)
knewt01
16-06-2011, 01:00 PM
You can get it online in the UK from here - http://www.mmseurope.com/
;);)
Thanks! :)
lulushka8
16-06-2011, 06:27 PM
Dom thanks for all the info you've put together on this topic, it's been really interesting reading. However, i'm really confused and was wondering whether you could shed some light, i read the pH books by Young a few years ago but didn't want to do the diet since i was a raw foodist and loved fruit too much, as well as things like spirulina, honey.... (i'm now high raw and have limited my intake of sweet fruits and am just eating wholefoods.) anyway i was reading about the Gerson therapy which involves eliminating all sources of sodium including sodium bicarb (i'm a salt fiend), and avoiding pulses, avos, nuts and seeds. i wouldn't be able to follow this diet either since i'd have little left to eat that i actually like. i'm so confused as to why 2 curative diets could be so different.
particlepopup
16-06-2011, 07:29 PM
Great thread and needs to be kept going, just bought some 35% hydrogen peroxide (h202) to go wi mi bicarb....I WILL BE INVINCIBLE....HA HA!!!! Meanwhile i shall finish washing the pots!!
Good read on h202
http://educate-yourself.org/hp/index.shtml
0ddity
16-06-2011, 07:30 PM
When is it best to drink the bicarb? i.e. before/after a meal, or on an empty stomach? Thanks. :)
particlepopup
16-06-2011, 07:36 PM
When is it best to drink the bicarb? i.e. before/after a meal, or on an empty stomach? Thanks. :)
Defo empty stomach unless you got heart burn (acid reflux)
domathy
16-06-2011, 07:41 PM
Great thread and needs to be kept going, just bought some 35% hydrogen peroxide (h202) to go wi mi bicarb....I WILL BE INVINCIBLE....HA HA!!!! Meanwhile i shall finish washing the pots!!
Good read on h202
http://educate-yourself.org/hp/index.shtml
I will reply to all the posts here, but just wanted to pick up on your post first. DO NOT take hydrogen peroxide internally! Yes, it will increase oxygen but there is too great a risk of it h202 combining with other things in the body to form the powerful free radical 'super oxide minus' - am a bit busy right now but will reply in more detail.
particlepopup
16-06-2011, 07:48 PM
I will reply to all the posts here, but just wanted to pick up on your post first. DO NOT take hydrogen peroxide internally! Yes, it will increase oxygen but there is too great a risk of it h202 combining with other things in the body to form the powerful free radical 'super oxide minus' - am a bit busy right now but will reply in more detail.
Oh :(! Isnt h202 already produced in the body and these free radicals help destroy unwanted nasties. Im no expert but what ive glanced over seems to give an opposing view.
domathy
16-06-2011, 08:03 PM
Oh :(! Isnt h202 already produced in the body and these free radicals help destroy unwanted nasties. Im no expert but what ive glanced over seems to give an opposing view.
Here it is from the horses mouth (Dr Young used to advocate h202 but now advises against using it internally):
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2011/03/supplemental-hydrogen-peroxide-good-or.html
MMS (miracle mineral supplement) which is activated sodium chlorite, gives all the same anti pathogen properties (and more) but with out the associated danger of h202. MMS is not powerful enough to oxidize healthy tissue but is powerful enough to oxidize pathogens and therefore presents no risk to your health:
Project Camelot interviews Jim Humble, the man behind MMS: Miracle Mineral Supplement - YouTube
Here is where to buy sodium chlorite in europe:
http://www.mmseurope.com/
Hope this sheds a bit more light on this.
particlepopup
16-06-2011, 08:10 PM
Thanks dom, i respect your opinion will check it all out. Thanks for putting a spanner in the works tho :rolleyes:
domathy
16-06-2011, 08:17 PM
Dom thanks for all the info you've put together on this topic, it's been really interesting reading. However, i'm really confused and was wondering whether you could shed some light, i read the pH books by Young a few years ago but didn't want to do the diet since i was a raw foodist and loved fruit too much, as well as things like spirulina, honey.... (i'm now high raw and have limited my intake of sweet fruits and am just eating wholefoods.) anyway i was reading about the Gerson therapy which involves eliminating all sources of sodium including sodium bicarb (i'm a salt fiend), and avoiding pulses, avos, nuts and seeds. i wouldn't be able to follow this diet either since i'd have little left to eat that i actually like. i'm so confused as to why 2 curative diets could be so different.
I was a 'raw foodist' when I trained with dr Young 8 yrs ago and really struggled with some of what he says. I didnt like the cooked food in his alkaline programme for example as believed 100% raw was the ONLY way. I was hooked on fruit too (was juicing lots of fruit and munching dates etc and was a total sugar junkie). But, gave it a try, well, I stayed raw but dropped the fruit. Thought I would really struggle and was really concerned......but, after 2 days, I suddenly realised I wasnt even missing sugar.
Honey is unnecessary and spirulina is soo overpriced for what you get.
Re Gerson, its an outdated model, though has saved lots of lives. Many people find their way onto the pH approach after plateauing on the gerson prog. Salt is essential, but needs to be the right kind. Table salt is highly refined and toxic. So, need to use himalayan salt, or redmond real salt. I drink it in water and add to all food. Sodium bicarb is very good. WHat are you trying to cure? (PM if you want) and btw there is very little agreement in the field of nutrition so its a case of finding what works for you - its all to easy to get confused and overwhelmed :confused:
When is it best to drink the bicarb? i.e. before/after a meal, or on an empty stomach? Thanks. :)
I drink bicarb before, during and after meals. But, if youre not used to bicarb, its best to drink on an empty stomach. I take about 2 tsp per litre of water, and drink 2 or 3 litres per day.
domathy
16-06-2011, 08:18 PM
Thanks dom, i respect your opinion will check it all out. Thanks for putting a spanner in the works tho :rolleyes:
Sorry :o :)
domathy
16-06-2011, 08:29 PM
For those new to my threads, here are some related threads and videos:
Blood analysis Thread:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165640
Liver flush thread:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165996
Which water to drink:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=169464
Alkalizing videos:
Alkalizing part 1 - YouTube
Alkalizing part 2 - YouTube
Alkalizing part 3 - YouTube
Alkalizing part 4 Clay - YouTube
Alkalizing part 5 Almonds - YouTube
lulushka8
16-06-2011, 09:29 PM
thanks for the advice, it's helped clear up some of the confusion. no, i no longer do totally raw either, as my main meal these days is always some kind of pulse with rice/potatoes, and i am pretty much following the ph principles apart from a bit of fruit and stuff, ok maybe not following it that closely, but you saying that the Gerson therapy is outdated and isn't the holy grail has helped ease my anxiety around the salt/bicarb/seeds/pulses issue, thanks for making that clear. I use pink himalayan salt, but tried to find a reliable brand (can't remember the name offhand).
I'm going to have another read of his books to help some of it sink in more, although this thread seems to have a tonne of good info in it alone.
...So do you avoid all fruit now, i don't reckon i could ever do that and that's the only thing that really holds me back. i'm not trying to cure anything in particular, just preventative and to have a clean system to enable spiritual growth. plus my liver needs all the help it can get as i have a genetic thing called Gilbert's, which makes it harder to detox, therefore i need my diet to be as good as i'm willing to make it.
Thanks again. :D
lulushka8
16-06-2011, 09:33 PM
and i like the videos! thanks for helping us :D
domathy
16-06-2011, 09:47 PM
thanks for the advice, it's helped clear up some of the confusion. no, i no longer do totally raw either, as my main meal these days is always some kind of pulse with rice/potatoes, and i am pretty much following the ph principles apart from a bit of fruit and stuff, ok maybe not following it that closely, but you saying that the Gerson therapy is outdated and isn't the holy grail has helped ease my anxiety around the salt/bicarb/seeds/pulses issue, thanks for making that clear. I use pink himalayan salt, but tried to find a reliable brand (can't remember the name offhand).
I'm going to have another read of his books to help some of it sink in more, although this thread seems to have a tonne of good info in it alone.
...So do you avoid all fruit now, i don't reckon i could ever do that and that's the only thing that really holds me back. i'm not trying to cure anything in particular, just preventative and to have a clean system to enable spiritual growth. plus my liver needs all the help it can get as i have a genetic thing called Gilbert's, which makes it harder to detox, therefore i need my diet to be as good as i'm willing to make it.
Thanks again. :D
I spent years being confused about what to eat and was very anxious about food for some time (a real danger when studying raw etc) so Im always happy to try and help others who are looking for answers. The salt you use is fine btw.
Dr Young's style of writing can be a bit off putting, hence why i have tried to condense his research so it contains just the relevant bits.. He makes the pH approach seem very unapproachable and a bit extreme, when actually it is very approachable if its presented properly. So, thats what Im trying to do with the vids.
I never thought i could quit mangos or pineapple, but now i never even think about friut. Sometimes have blueberries. If im abroad and its mango season, then I will eat some - fresh, seasonal fruit is very different to whats in shops in uk. If someone had told me i would quit fruit i never would have believed them, as i never wanted to imagine not wanting to eat fruit. But, i honestly dont miss it.
I'll see what Dr Young says about Gilbert;s.
and i like the videos! thanks for helping us :D
Will do more vids soon. Not very pro, but Im glad you enjoyed/found helpful :)
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Honey is unnecessary and spirulina is soo overpriced for what you get.
Oh, don't be that cruel to the bees:) I love honey and I can feel it improves my immune system.
domathy
16-06-2011, 10:11 PM
Oh, don't be that cruel to the bees:) I love honey and I can feel it improves my immune system.
Ah, but on an alkaline diet your immune system would not need propping up ;)
lulushka8
16-06-2011, 10:23 PM
yeah i agree that Dr Young does make the diet seem really hard and unapproachable, but seeing your videos has made it seem so easy and doable. i've even got that porridge & rice penne :) although i try to make veggies the focus like you've done there. I have a few plum and apple trees and will eat a tonne of plums and apples around august since they'd obviously be picked ripe, but i'll try to focus my attention on the more alkalising foods. i also want to do more juicing. i was wondering whether Bells was a good brand of bicarb to use, but then i saw it on one of your vids so that's cleared that up. thank you :)
domathy
17-06-2011, 10:19 AM
yeah i agree that Dr Young does make the diet seem really hard and unapproachable, but seeing your videos has made it seem so easy and doable. i've even got that porridge & rice penne :) although i try to make veggies the focus like you've done there. I have a few plum and apple trees and will eat a tonne of plums and apples around august since they'd obviously be picked ripe, but i'll try to focus my attention on the more alkalising foods. i also want to do more juicing. i was wondering whether Bells was a good brand of bicarb to use, but then i saw it on one of your vids so that's cleared that up. thank you :)
It needs to be easy and approachable else people wont bother, so Ill keep manking vids to cover stuff like the liver flush, water filters etc. Its easier to be shown than follow instructions off a page. Im the same with food, and just focus mainly on veg. The food in the vids was stuff I'd made for friends as persoanlly i dont eat fish, cheese or eggs. I am trying to get as many calories from raw fats atm (coconut oil, avocado, hemp seed, almonds etc) and move away from carbs where poss, but come winter will be eating more carbs probably.
We had apple trees when i was growing up but they tasted like crap, i dont think the trees were managed properly. Plums are good.
And, yeah, bells bicarb is good :D
lulushka8
17-06-2011, 05:37 PM
We had apple trees when i was growing up but they tasted like crap, i dont think the trees were managed properly. Plums are good.
haha :D ...the apples we have aren't so good either and i mainly juice them with carrots, but the yellow plums are amazing!
i'm high carb at the moment and it's hard coming from a background of 8/1/1 and mcdougall, to eating more fats although i used to love avos and ate 3 a day years ago. atm i'm slowly trying to increase my fats as i've been experiencing the benefits. like now i'm having hemp and a few soaked brazil nuts/coconut and my energy levels are increasing, my moods improved and have lost the brain fog, not so lethargic. when i was raw or all-fruit i used to feel exhausted even with more calories than normal, brain was always fogged up, puffiness and bloating. i reckon i do need more fats, but as i said it's hard switching from one discipline to another.
Also i think i eat too much protein since i have a bowl of lentils everyday, and my chronometer says i'm getting 16% protein - is that bad?? i keep hearing too much protein is not good, but then again i may even have an absorption problem that needs to be fixed (via alkalising)...
scottishryan
17-06-2011, 06:39 PM
Excellent information on here, Loving this thread. Still slowly making the switch here...Right now is a hard time...Friday night when I usually have a few beers and I am sitting here having an internal battle :D:D winning so far :p
I've been having a glass of water with bicarb in the morning and I swear within 15minutes I have some type of energy rush/perked up feeling....Placebo or have others noticed this! The rest of the day I usually manage another 1.5 litres with fresh organic lemon slices! I am going to up this!! Struggling with dinners the now, still having a cooked one with some nasties so will need to slowly alter over the days and weeks ahead.
All good stuff Guys & Gals :D
domathy
17-06-2011, 07:16 PM
haha :D ...the apples we have aren't so good either and i mainly juice them with carrots, but the yellow plums are amazing!
i'm high carb at the moment and it's hard coming from a background of 8/1/1 and mcdougall, to eating more fats although i used to love avos and ate 3 a day years ago. atm i'm slowly trying to increase my fats as i've been experiencing the benefits. like now i'm having hemp and a few soaked brazil nuts/coconut and my energy levels are increasing, my moods improved and have lost the brain fog, not so lethargic. when i was raw or all-fruit i used to feel exhausted even with more calories than normal, brain was always fogged up, puffiness and bloating. i reckon i do need more fats, but as i said it's hard switching from one discipline to another.
I got no idea what "8/1/1 and mcdougall" means, will google, I guess refers to 8 pts carb to 1 pt fat and 1pt protein? Yeah, thats not ideal.
Fats are a very clean source of fuel compared to carbs (which produce lots of acid when metabolised), but most of us have conditioned our body to burn carbs for fuel (prob cos its such a lazy way to consume energy). Its takes a while to condition the body to burn fats effectivley. Exercise is required in the beginning to raise metabolism every day (even brisk walking once or twice a day) otherwise the fats you eat wont be burned properly. Also, the 'little and often' approach is important. If you start downing fats and oils you will stall your digestion and feel sluggish. If you've ever made a small bonfire then dumped loads of wood on it, you will see how the flames go out as it chokes the flames. Its the same in the body, you need to stoke the fire gently (ie build metabolism) and, as your body burns fats better, you can keep adding more fat to your diet. Also its a mental shift as carbs give you a rush, and fats give you nothing exciting at first. But, as metabolism shifts you start to feel you are getting really good consistent energy from fat.
Also i think i eat too much protein since i have a bowl of lentils everyday, and my chronometer says i'm getting 16% protein - is that bad?? i keep hearing too much protein is not good, but then again i may even have an absorption problem that needs to be fixed (via alkalising)...
I dont get how your watch knows how much protein you eat :confused: :D
But, too much animal protein is bad. Plant protein is fine. In an ideal world, we would need very little protein, as much more would be recycled. But in reality, due to stress, poor absorption, yeast overgrowth etc etc, nutrients get spent instead of recycled, so protein requirements are higher. I would say you prob need to up the protein in your diet, whilst addressing absorption and maybe yeast issues too. Need omega 3&6 too.
Oh, you dont need to soak brazils, macadamias or pine nuts. But, its hard to find brazil nuts with their brown skins in tact, and so the white part of the nut is yellow and oxidized.
Excellent information on here, Loving this thread. Still slowly making the switch here...Right now is a hard time...Friday night when I usually have a few beers and I am sitting here having an internal battle :D:D winning so far :p
Gwaaaan!! You can do it.....we're there with you. The beer can fuck off. Who needs beer? you can do as many grams of bicarb as you want!! :D and no come-down.
I've been having a glass of water with bicarb in the morning and I swear within 15minutes I have some type of energy rush/perked up feeling....Placebo or have others noticed this! The rest of the day I usually manage another 1.5 litres with fresh organic lemon slices! I am going to up this!! Struggling with dinners the now, still having a cooked one with some nasties so will need to slowly alter over the days and weeks ahead.
All good stuff Guys & Gals :D
The mechanics are as follows:
Acids and protons in the body need to neutralized. So, the body uses electrons (energy) and alklaine minerals to buffer the protons and acids. Bicarb is full of electrons and alklainity - so the bicarb does the hard work and relieves you of the task mentioned above. So you get to keep all your electrons and minerals. You feel a bit of a rush when the burden is lifted and
the bicarb 'takes the weight off your shoulders'. Spare energy is then re-directed for healing and other tasks. You feel less of a buzz when you get more alklaine as there is less acids dragging you down so you dont get the same relief.
There will be ups and downs. Try to stay strong. Cave in when you need to as sometime you need to go backwards to go forwards. So, dont beat yourself up when you 'fail'. Just keep flushing and alklaizing with bicarb and lemon.
lulushka8
17-06-2011, 07:47 PM
that made me laugh :D Chronometer's not my watch, i meant the computer program that tells you if you're getting enough nutrients. 8/1/1 shorthand for 80% carb, 10% protein, 10% fat (Doug Graham's diet) Mcdougall is the regular (cooked) version of 80/10/10.
thanks for the info, i feel like i need the brazils cause of the selenium, i avoided them for years cause of the rancidity problem, but have sourced some really good quality organic white ones with intact skins, i wouldn't touch the regular yellow/chipped ones. i also make sure to only use raw cool-milled hemp/nut butters. i don't reckon i have a yeast issue but probably have absorption as well as adrenal problems, i'm looking into how to help with these. oh and i'm plant based only (diet not me) so no animal protein for me either. :)
domathy
17-06-2011, 08:12 PM
that made me laugh :D Chronometer's not my watch, i meant the computer program that tells you if you're getting enough nutrients. 8/1/1 shorthand for 80% carb, 10% protein, 10% fat (Doug Graham's diet) Mcdougall is the regular (cooked) version of 80/10/10.
thanks for the info, i feel like i need the brazils cause of the selenium, i avoided them for years cause of the rancidity problem, but have sourced some really good quality organic white ones with intact skins, i wouldn't touch the regular yellow/chipped ones. i also make sure to only use raw cool-milled hemp/nut butters. i don't reckon i have a yeast issue but probably have absorption as well as adrenal problems, i'm looking into how to help with these. oh and i'm plant based only (diet not me) so no animal protein for me either. :)
I just googled it and it said was a watch, so just thought you had a fancy watch lol.
If you had foggy head, bloating and puffiness then i would be suprised if you didnt have some yeast (in the colon and/or blood) as those are classic symptoms. When you eat sugar (fruit) the yeast feeds on the sugar then dumps (excretes/craps) toxins (into the blood) which break down to alcohol and other stuff, which makes your head foggy. I was like that for years. I see it all the time when i look at blood samples (can see adrenal stress too). Yeast normally is the absorption problem, along with bicarb deficiency and food combining etc.
Have you got a link for them brazils!!? :)
plant based lol. :) yeah, im just not even tempted to eat meat now. Much easier now fat, protein and sugar levels are more balanced.
knewt01
17-06-2011, 08:38 PM
Excellent information on here, Loving this thread. Still slowly making the switch here...Right now is a hard time...Friday night when I usually have a few beers and I am sitting here having an internal battle :D:D winning so far :p
I've been having a glass of water with bicarb in the morning and I swear within 15minutes I have some type of energy rush/perked up feeling....Placebo or have others noticed this! The rest of the day I usually manage another 1.5 litres with fresh organic lemon slices! I am going to up this!! Struggling with dinners the now, still having a cooked one with some nasties so will need to slowly alter over the days and weeks ahead.
All good stuff Guys & Gals :D
Definitely not placebo imo - well done! Keep it up :)
domathy
17-06-2011, 08:42 PM
Definitely not placebo imo - well done! Keep it up :)
Good to see your'e still online :)
You shoud treat yourself to some 3 in 1 oil as its Friday :)
lulushka8
17-06-2011, 09:57 PM
If you had foggy head, bloating and puffiness then i would be suprised if you didnt have some yeast (in the colon and/or blood) as those are classic symptoms. When you eat sugar (fruit) the yeast feeds on the sugar then dumps (excretes/craps) toxins (into the blood) which break down to alcohol and other stuff, which makes your head foggy. I was like that for years. I see it all the time when i look at blood samples (can see adrenal stress too). Yeast normally is the absorption problem, along with bicarb deficiency and food combining etc.
hmm, ok maybe i do in that case. it's probably cause of the fruit. i know i've got adrenal problems, i have all the signs.
..i can't give you the link for the brazil nuts since when i said i sourced them i was lying! :eek: my bro-in-law gave me a bag from s. america where he's from so i froze them and have about 2 a day. sorry bout that :( the ones in shops here are pretty rancid.
domathy
17-06-2011, 10:12 PM
hmm, ok maybe i do in that case. it's probably cause of the fruit. i know i've got adrenal problems, i have all the signs.
..i can't give you the link for the brazil nuts since when i said i sourced them i was lying! :eek: my bro-in-law gave me a bag from s. america where he's from so i froze them and have about 2 a day, but they're the best ones ever and i never used to like them. sorry bout that :( the ones in shops here are pretty rancid.
Well, thats an anti-climax. :(
(this country sucks. Brazil nuts in shell have been banned and its easier to buy crack than non oxidized nuts)
knewt01
17-06-2011, 11:05 PM
Good to see your'e still online :)
You shoud treat yourself to some 3 in 1 oil as its Friday :)
Thanks, may well do that.
I simply can't stay away. I may have to go on the game but I WILL NOT lose my internet! :D
dalem
17-06-2011, 11:58 PM
Make your own Alkalizer.
Check out my fav Canadian Herbalist Tony Pantalleresco.
HerbsPlusBeadWorks's Channel - YouTube
scottishryan
18-06-2011, 06:53 AM
Thanks domathy and knewt01 :)
I sort of slipped last night HAHAHA...After I posted on here I had a call with a relative who came to our house. Now, Good point (glass half full person here, pun intended lol) I never bought beer or spirits I went for the least damaging from the website list on this thread....red wine!
Mixed it down with pure grape juice and at the end of the night.....big glass of bicarb water! This morning I have drank a litre of the same and will switch to lemon water this afternoon. A tiny step back and forth but all in all a very small change.
Maybe I can get down to some food changes now that my nemesis Friday has passed :)
Thanks for the support guys...It really does help and in a funny way, keeping me personally accountable through this transition time. I love this thread!!
domathy
18-06-2011, 03:41 PM
Thanks, may well do that.
I simply can't stay away. I may have to go on the game but I WILL NOT lose my internet! :D
Okay, well, pls send me a quote/price list if you decide to go down that route ;)
Make your own Alkalizer.
Check out my fav Canadian Herbalist Tony Pantalleresco.
http://www.youtube.com/user/HerbsPlusBeadWorks#p/u/2/gSoZxL74Hd8
Yeah, im not sure about this :confused:
Because, it just looks like the alkalinity will be neutralized by the acid and therefore defeating the point. I take various carbonate salts (cal, mag, sod, pot) in water and that works well. I dont see the relevance of adding an acid. I might give this a try though as it looks interesting and i like experimenting with myself anyway. But, if i explode then Im blaming you. I wont use vinegar as that stuffs shite. Also citric acid is made from aspergillus fungus (is aspergillus poo) - so will use lemon instead. I like fizzy stuff anyway as it reminds me of drinking coke so thats good too. Thanks for the link :)
Thanks domathy and knewt01 :)
I sort of slipped last night HAHAHA...After I posted on here I had a call with a relative who came to our house. Now, Good point (glass half full person here, pun intended lol) I never bought beer or spirits I went for the least damaging from the website list on this thread....red wine!
Yeah, I thouht you dropped off the radar. We were all quite suspicious :) Well, at least you showed the beer who's boss :D But, youve proved that its best to avoid relatives (well, most relatives anyway imo)
Mixed it down with pure grape juice and at the end of the night.....big glass of bicarb water! This morning I have drank a litre of the same and will switch to lemon water this afternoon. A tiny step back and forth but all in all a very small change.
Alcohol wouldnt even be such a problem if people would alklaize at the end of the night and in the morning, it makes such a difference to the liver and kidneys and blood.
Maybe I can get down to some food changes now that my nemesis Friday has passed :)
Thanks for the support guys...It really does help and in a funny way, keeping me personally accountable through this transition time. I love this thread!!
So, its all positive, just keep moving forward. Last night wasnt even a step back, it was just a smaller step forward then normal. Its wierd when your body is conditioned to expect stuff. When at college, and especially during the summer; thurs, fri, sat and sun were party/drug nights. So when i quit my body (and mind) was like "okay, so what are we supposed to do now?" . So, theres a bit of mental gymnastics required but you just got to work through in the best way you can. I didnt even know about bicarb and water, so you got that advantage.
scottishryan
18-06-2011, 05:50 PM
Thanks domathy! watched your videos earlier too and enjoyed them greatly! ;)
If you do not mind me asking, how did you progress and recondition your mind to overcome the old habits? Was it just a case of building new better ones or was it a bit of a struggle!
When I think back, I have not half abused my body in the past with smoking (quit a good 10 years ago) drugs and my final baddy is now Alcohol. I was thinking more research, study and applying of this topic (Alkalizing the body) and getting busy around the house and garden with projects may be the way to go. I am also still diving into ancient history, mindsets and a dash of quantum physics with the rest.....need to stay well clear of the conspiracies though...They haul you in and alter your mindset to the negative lol
Next step is to make up some food lists and menus for me..I am good if I am organised before I get hungry!!
scottishryan
18-06-2011, 07:07 PM
Ok, so what's the scoop on this Goji Juice? First I have heard of it!
Acidic Blood vs Alkaline Blood - YouTube
domathy
18-06-2011, 08:21 PM
Ok, so what's the scoop on this Goji Juice? First I have heard of it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhHe55s9rg
Goji is bad. It will dissolve rotten meat in the gut and may give perceived benefit as it acts like drain unblocker - not the best way to clean the colon though:
Goji Juice has a pH of 3.65, an ORP of +181 mV, a rH2 of 25.81. Furthermore, with the additional 132 grams of sugar per liter or 4 grams per 30 ml (1 liter of Goji Juice contains over 1/4 pound of sugar) , the cations (protons or acids) from sugar metabolism will drive the pH as low as 1.50, the ORP in excess of +500 mV, and the rH2 over 30, making this beverage highly acidic and toxic to the body. Summary: The quantity of organic cations (protons or acids) from high sugar fruits and fruit drinks like Goji Juice significantly exceeds the number of free anions (bases or electrons). Therefore, a net acidification occurs in the blood and tissues.
here's the full article:
http://www.phmiracleliving.com/Articles/2006-10-28-NoniGoji.html
Plenty of well marketed, overpriced junk on the market - touted as 'superfood' but really not all that healthy.
Goji will give you an adrenalie buzz as the body freaks out trying to deal with the acid/protons, but, its not good for you.
domathy
18-06-2011, 08:40 PM
Thanks domathy! watched your videos earlier too and enjoyed them greatly! ;)
If you do not mind me asking, how did you progress and recondition your mind to overcome the old habits? Was it just a case of building new better ones or was it a bit of a struggle!
No, dont mind at all. I had no choice. By age 17 i knew i needed to quit and get healthy. Did acid by 13, speed by 14, then cider, dope and anything cheap and nasty. When we couldnt get weed one time, we tried solvents - and then that became a bit of a habit (doing in class at school lol) - anyway, brain was pretty battered when i started college to decided to quit. But, met new friends and discovered skunk and ecstasy, so managed to squeeze a few more drug years out of my body. Spent a year giving up drugs evey day (flushing weed down toilet etc) Age 20 was just a total wreck (zero short term memory etc) and on new years eve quit everything. Now, I cant drink or do drugs even if i wanted to as my body just rejects it and it freaks me out the idea of going back to being brain dead. So, for me its easy. Plus im allergic to wheat, and dont react well with eggs or dairy. was raised veggie too (though ate meat for a short while) so, for me the diet is good just by default. I can down tons of chocolate which is a bugger.
In general, having goals, being clear, having vision etc are all important. Writing written intentions is helpful. I need to do this too as am not perfect.
Meditation is good - just sitting for 10 mins and not thinking - allows the brain the rewire itself and return to 'factory settings' - the brain knows how to rewire if you just shut up for a moment :) When I was in my really mental phase, i did some 10 day silent meditation retreats and i think that really helped allow my brains 'self-righting' mechanisms to kick-in. But 10 mins per day will add up.
When I think back, I have not half abused my body in the past with smoking (quit a good 10 years ago) drugs and my final baddy is now Alcohol. I was thinking more research, study and applying of this topic (Alkalizing the body) and getting busy around the house and garden with projects may be the way to go. I am also still diving into ancient history, mindsets and a dash of quantum physics with the rest.....need to stay well clear of the conspiracies though...They haul you in and alter your mindset to the negative lol
Next step is to make up some food lists and menus for me..I am good if I am organised before I get hungry!!
Studying Icke has kept me busy, and just understanding the nature of the world we live in has been healing as it frees up lots of energy previously spent on wondering wtf lifes all about. So, just keep busy. Write questions, just get a page and fill it with questions - see what happens.
You body can take a lot of abuse. It is designed to withstand the rollercoaster of spiritual evolution - including years of abuse.
Keep studying, but focus of freeing yourself, not on studying the prison cell and obsessing about the conspiracies (as you say this is a sure way to get into a negative, disempowered state)
cheers :)
scottishryan
18-06-2011, 09:00 PM
Magnificent pointers and advise and resonating very well indeed. Massive thanks!
Your earlier life sounds familiar too :D
Think I have hit the stage now where I have absorbed so much information relating to mind, body and spirit that I am crying out within to put it into action. Just knowing its not enough and god knows I have invested many many hours reading, watching and listening to a plethora online :D
Meditation is something I WANT to do and still for the life of me not made it a daily practice and I have no idea why...I have tons of information on techniques but only used it now and then. I need to build it into an early morning ritual I think.
I am a massive subscriber to the idea of our thinking affecting our reality due to personal experience and to go further the material by Bruce lipton (sp?) resonated highly with me so quietening the mind and really freeing it from stress and looking after the body is now a key aspect. So meditation and clear intentions and areas I need to push on in! Time to get of my ass in other words and use the stuff now
This whole topic has added another dimension to my thinking and glad I found it...I was a step away from stopping at going raw but this makes more sense.
Oh another one for you :p Green juices? Good? self made of course!
Thanks for the information on goji, lucky thing as I was searching through Holland and Barrett and pricing up :)
moods999
18-06-2011, 09:24 PM
Goji is bad. It will dissolve rotten meat in the gut and may give perceived benefit as it acts like drain unblocker - not the best way to clean the colon though:
Goji Juice has a pH of 3.65, an ORP of +181 mV, a rH2 of 25.81. Furthermore, with the additional 132 grams of sugar per liter or 4 grams per 30 ml (1 liter of Goji Juice contains over 1/4 pound of sugar) , the cations (protons or acids) from sugar metabolism will drive the pH as low as 1.50, the ORP in excess of +500 mV, and the rH2 over 30, making this beverage highly acidic and toxic to the body. Summary: The quantity of organic cations (protons or acids) from high sugar fruits and fruit drinks like Goji Juice significantly exceeds the number of free anions (bases or electrons). Therefore, a net acidification occurs in the blood and tissues.
here's the full article:
http://www.phmiracleliving.com/Articles/2006-10-28-NoniGoji.html
Plenty of well marketed, overpriced junk on the market - touted as 'superfood' but really not all that healthy.
Goji will give you an adrenalie buzz as the body freaks out trying to deal with the acid/protons, but, its not good for you.
I just saw DWs podcast about goji berry :).http://www.thebestdayever.com/news/ What do you think about the extract or putting goji berries in water and drink the water with the goji berry juice. interesting you said about adrenaline buzz i felt it once with blended goji berries and it felt good in the brain. will i stop goji berries completely...probably not :)
domathy
18-06-2011, 09:45 PM
Magnificent pointers and advise and resonating very well indeed. Massive thanks!
Your earlier life sounds familiar too :D
Think I have hit the stage now where I have absorbed so much information relating to mind, body and spirit that I am crying out within to put it into action. Just knowing its not enough and god knows I have invested many many hours reading, watching and listening to a plethora online :D
Im going to do a vid of a 'day in the life of domathy' - so people can see what i eat, drink and when and how to take supplements etc. Its taken me 8 yrs to get really proficient so I will try to share short cuts and tips. Just think; water/bicarb, food, water/bicarb, food etc right through the day. FOcus on veg and healthy grains/lentils and avocados.
Meditation is something I WANT to do and still for the life of me not made it a daily practice and I have no idea why...I have tons of information on techniques but only used it now and then. I need to build it into an early morning ritual I think.
Forget technique (is my advivce). I ignored all the teachings at meditation retreats. The phrase 'let go, and let god' (im not religious) stuck with me. I just tried to focus on inhale/exhale and quiet my thoughts. The brain is hungry for o2, so , just quietening the mind frees up lots of energy and oxygen too. Just focus on turning the volume down whilst keeping spine straight.
I am a massive subscriber to the idea of our thinking affecting our reality due to personal experience and to go further the material by Bruce lipton (sp?) resonated highly with me so quietening the mind and really freeing it from stress and looking after the body is now a key aspect. So meditation and clear intentions and areas I need to push on in! Time to get of my ass in other words and use the stuff now
This whole topic has added another dimension to my thinking and glad I found it...I was a step away from stopping at going raw but this makes more sense.
Oh another one for you :p Green juices? Good? self made of course!
yeah, good.
Thanks for the information on goji, lucky thing as I was searching through Holland and Barrett and pricing up :)
Try to avoid horrible barratt (their supplements are junk)
I just saw DWs podcast about goji berry :).http://www.thebestdayever.com/news/ What do you think about the extract or putting goji berries in water and drink the water with the goji berry juice. interesting you said about adrenaline buzz i felt it once with blended goji berries and it felt good in the brain. will i stop goji berries completely...probably not :)
Not sure tbh, but with pH values like that you might aswell just drink coke. Well, maybe not, but maybe sunny-D or something. Ill check it out anyway, but, i think goji;s are hyped, thats for sure, just cos theyre profitable.
harvie316
18-06-2011, 09:51 PM
this ph thing.
i brought some litmus paper
http://www.razor-gator.com/SkinAcidsPhotos/75020699.jpg
that one, everything it touches it just goes green. is this the right one, the fuck?
moods999
18-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Not sure tbh, but with pH values like that you might aswell just drink coke. Well, maybe not, but maybe sunny-D or something. Ill check it out anyway, but, i think goji;s are hyped, thats for sure, just cos theyre profitable. [/QUOTE] what? SO BAD? what ph do they have?
scottishryan
19-06-2011, 06:19 AM
Thanks Domathy, Looking forward to the video too!!
**As he sits drinking his Bicarb Water for the morning*** :D
domathy
19-06-2011, 03:15 PM
this ph thing.
i brought some litmus paper
http://www.razor-gator.com/SkinAcidsPhotos/75020699.jpg
that one, everything it touches it just goes green. is this the right one, the fuck?
Are those your pH results in your pic? They look like your avatar lol. Litmus paper is not right, i made that mistake once. This is what you need:
http://www.energiseforlife.com/item--Energise-pH-Test-Strips-80-Dual-Pad-Strips--96.html
Not sure tbh, but with pH values like that you might aswell just drink coke. Well, maybe not, but maybe sunny-D or something. Ill check it out anyway, but, i think goji;s are hyped, thats for sure, just cos theyre profitable. what? SO BAD? what ph do they have?[/QUOTE]
heres the pH of goji juice (see post 235 too)....not sure about the berries though;Goji Juice has a pH of 3.65, an ORP of +181 mV
Thanks Domathy, Looking forward to the video too!!
**As he sits drinking his Bicarb Water for the morning*** :D
***living the dream***
leon11
19-06-2011, 05:44 PM
You're welcome! Im glad it all makes sense and that you resonate.
Mucus is used by the body to trap acids and escort out of the body. Hence why people get 'flu'. The body has purges once or twice per year depending on the degree of toxicity in an individual. Spring and Autumn are the 2 main cleansing periods hence why lots of people get 'colds'. Mucus carries acids out hence why people get 'snot'. Other times when people get 'colds' are xmas and other over-indulgence times where the body must do an express purge to eliminate the extra toxins to stay on an even keel. I had some food with vinegar the other day and within 5 mins I had a 'runny nose'. So, you have made a correct correlation between alcohol and mucus. It is a goey sticky substance and very effectctive for buffering acid.
Mucus is produced in the small intestine too to stop the delicate tissue being burned by acid from coffee, sugar, pasteurized dairy etc, but, as the years go by, mucus builds up and reduces absorbtion, so its good to clean the colon to get rid of hardened mucus.
ahh....i have a flu this weekend like I mentioned domathy and my last one before that was exactly 6 months ago! twice a year indeed!...
and yeh a lot of people seem to be feelin the flu this month. maybe we all purge at the same time due to the one-consciousness...like women who live together and their periods!?! sorry!
hormones....chemicals...energy...reactions....sync hronicity !
just thinkin out loud =)
dude so much snot came out of me in the last two days I dont how I made it all but yeh maybe my alkalising isn't going too bad, and that the flu is just part of the required process.
and whoa dom i didnt realised you were actually trained by Dr.Young... Im not a master on these subjects yet ;) but I know he's very highly regarded...
Synchronistic that he is called Dr Young though aye?!
Its like the pope being called Mr Praise, or something.
or a record breaking runner called Bolt! there's prob better examples :p
I googled ironic names and the first that came up was a Urologist called... Dr.Cockburn!
do they make these up?!?!
sorry Im totally derailing the thread!
good work guys, seems like the the alkalising is going well for a few of you :)
Thanks for all the info:)
A couple of questions:
I drink Pom 100% Pomegranate juice.....is that a good thing or is it just too much sugar? Their website:
http://www.pomwonderful.com/products/
What do you think of quorn products?
domathy
19-06-2011, 06:35 PM
ahh....i have a flu this weekend like I mentioned domathy and my last one before that was exactly 6 months ago! twice a year indeed!...
and yeh a lot of people seem to be feelin the flu this month. maybe we all purge at the same time due to the one-consciousness...like women who live together and their periods!?! sorry!
hormones....chemicals...energy...reactions....sync hronicity !
I think there might be something in that, Ive thought this for a while. ie that its the vibe that spreads and not germs.
just thinkin out loud =)
dude so much snot came out of me in the last two days I dont how I made it all but yeh maybe my alkalising isn't going too bad, and that the flu is just part of the required process.
and whoa dom i didnt realised you were actually trained by Dr.Young... Im not a master on these subjects yet ;) but I know he's very highly regarded...
And you must talk to me with due reverence :)
Synchronistic that he is called Dr Young though aye?!
Its like the pope being called Mr Praise, or something.
or a record breaking runner called Bolt! there's prob better examples :p
I googled ironic names and the first that came up was a Urologist called... Dr.Cockburn!
do they make these up?!?!
sorry Im totally derailing the thread!
good work guys, seems like the the alkalising is going well for a few of you :)
haha. Yeah, theres the angel lady 'doreen virtue' and the guy behind MMS is called jim Humble (both a bit cringe worthy)
My fave one was my sisters friend;s dad was called Walter Wall and he sold carpets. So, his shop was called 'Walter Wall Flooring' (wall to wall flooring)
lol for cockburn though.
domathy
19-06-2011, 07:50 PM
Thanks for all the info:)
A couple of questions:
I drink Pom 100% Pomegranate juice.....is that a good thing or is it just too much sugar? Their website:
http://www.pomwonderful.com/products/
What do you think of quorn products?
Youre welcome.
The juice is quite high in sugar, and has a low pH (3.2 i think), and is pasteurized (boiled) to preserve the juice. That said, studies do show
pomegranate juice does have health benefits. Personally I would say to
use a CLA supplement which is oil extracted from pomegranate seed - as this will give all the benefits (plus lots more) but without the sugar and acid.
quorn is quite crappy too, but its better than meat i guess. Quorn is grown and is a mycoprotien ie it is a fungus i think. There are better ways to get protein.
But, if you enjoy the above products then they will not kill you any time soon, but they dont feature on the list of alklaizing foods.
Youre welcome.
The juice is quite high in sugar, and has a low pH (3.2 i think), and is pasteurized (boiled) to preserve the juice. That said, studies do show
pomegranate juice does have health benefits. Personally I would say to
use a CLA supplement which is oil extracted from pomegranate seed - as this will give all the benefits (plus lots more) but without the sugar and acid.
quorn is quite crappy too, but its better than meat i guess. Quorn is grown and is a mycoprotien ie it is a fungus i think. There are better ways to get protein.
But, if you enjoy the above products then they will not kill you any time soon, but they dont feature on the list of alklaizing foods.
Thanks for that...I'll follow your advice and substitute other things. I don't eat too much quorn as not all that keen anyway.
domathy
19-06-2011, 08:15 PM
Thanks for that...I'll follow your advice and substitute other things. I don't eat too much quorn as not all that keen anyway.
Okay - but, like i say, it wont kill you, but it wont alkalize you either. :)
leon11
19-06-2011, 10:30 PM
haha. Yeah, theres the angel lady 'doreen virtue' and the guy behind MMS is called jim Humble (both a bit cringe worthy)
My fave one was my sisters friend;s dad was called Walter Wall and he sold carpets. So, his shop was called 'Walter Wall Flooring' (wall to wall flooring)
lol for cockburn though.
heheh walter wall. Gary Neville's dad is apparently Neville Neville, but thats different.
Doctor Cockburn has a nice ring to it
whoa I just realised synchronocity = syn chrono city
so time + place = synchronicity! (syn = at the same time / together)
glitch in the matrix?
citi = vagina btw (symbolically giving birth to the civi-lisation)
and County, or Country....? take away the O..?!
I'll stop now!
peace out