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scottishryan
23-07-2011, 08:30 AM
domathy, do you have a website?

<----- Still has mild dental pain, reason why so quiet :D

Had a few days of non alkaline foods to be honest...just been grabbing portions of chips et al through lack of motivation. Still reading and thinking though ;)

oh and guzzling Bicarb water as I type, managed to get some Sodium Bicarbonate B.P. from Boots yesterday :eek:

akana
23-07-2011, 08:30 AM
I missed this post too! I think the main difference is the speed at which the sugar enters the blood sugar. Fructose is like rocket fuel and causes big spikes of insulin levels. Whereas grains, legumes and fats convert much more slowly.
Fats are the best source of energy/blood sugar because the convert so sugar slow and steady plus create much less acid when metabolised.

i posted that before reading your post about sugar metabolism vs clean fat metabolism, but now i'm considering being an avocadotarian instead :D (jk :p)

akana
23-07-2011, 08:34 AM
Good news: Bob's Red Mill baking soda is aluminum free! :)

Are your baking soda and baking powder aluminum free?
Yes. Our baking soda and baking powder are aluminum free.

http://www.bobsredmill.com/bobs-red-mill-faq.html#SP1

domathy
23-07-2011, 09:17 AM
domathy, do you have a website?

<----- Still has mild dental pain, reason why so quiet :D

Had a few days of non alkaline foods to be honest...just been grabbing portions of chips et al through lack of motivation. Still reading and thinking though ;)

oh and guzzling Bicarb water as I type, managed to get some Sodium Bicarbonate B.P. from Boots yesterday :eek:

I have a web page but its just for alkalizing products atm.
Sorry youre having a tough time atm - why not psyche yourself up and just go see the dentist - even if you need a drink to get your head around the idea, its better in the long run to just get it done. When was the last time you went to the dentist? They got better equipment these days so its all much more comfortable than in the old days. Its hard to stay motivated when your in pain all the time.

i posted that before reading your post about sugar metabolism vs clean fat metabolism, but now i'm considering being an avocadotarian instead :D (jk :p)

:D

Good news: Bob's Red Mill baking soda is aluminum free! :)

http://www.bobsredmill.com/bobs-red-mill-faq.html#SP1

Ah good news :)

carlperkins
24-07-2011, 06:27 PM
5 weeks today from my last alcoholic drink! Yipee! Today I bought 12 avacados, the most I've ever bought in one go. Thankfully they are my favouritr food. Domathy, thanks for the advice about bicarbing in the middle of the night, it really helped. I've noticed the bicarb works almost immediately. If my sinus goes wild, a quick shot of bicarb sorts it out in a bout a minute. Amazing breakthrough for me. I have noticed though that (sorry about the graphics here) my stools are "floating" (no, in the bowl, not in the air!) a lot more, is this the bicarbing?

Domathy, what is your opinion on sneezing fits? Any experiences? I am presuming they will clear as the sinus clears.

Thread seems to have quietened down, what happened?

CP

domathy
24-07-2011, 08:09 PM
5 weeks today from my last alcoholic drink! Yipee! Today I bought 12 avacados, the most I've ever bought in one go. Thankfully they are my favouritr food. Domathy, thanks for the advice about bicarbing in the middle of the night, it really helped. I've noticed the bicarb works almost immediately. If my sinus goes wild, a quick shot of bicarb sorts it out in a bout a minute. Amazing breakthrough for me. I have noticed though that (sorry about the graphics here) my stools are "floating" (no, in the bowl, not in the air!) a lot more, is this the bicarbing?

Domathy, what is your opinion on sneezing fits? Any experiences? I am presuming they will clear as the sinus clears.

Thread seems to have quietened down, what happened?

CP

Good work with no booze and your new avocado habit :)
Also good work for bicarbing in the night, great news that its helping.
My understanding with sneezing is that its one of the body's emergence avenues for eliminating acids - ie the body sneezes to try and force acids out.
My understanding is the floating stools is the result of the liver not processing fats properly - so it could be that the liver is a bit stressed, i would say keep an eye on it and it should pass in time. Glad to hear the poos are not going neil armstrong on you :)

lulushka8
24-07-2011, 08:43 PM
well done carl! (for the no booze not the floating poos)

just want to say that i had this small red eczema patch for 2+ years that would never go away, until now! it's been gone for ages now which makes me think it was yeast related, there was the biggest ever flare up one week into the diet and it looked the worst i'd ever seen it, it must have been a detox reaction as it disappeared the next day and hasn't returned after having it for 2 years, i can't believe it. my gut feeling tells me it was caused by the fruit as i had a fairly clean diet before, just a lot of fruit and yeast products. i just can't believe it's been gone so long, good riddance! this proves that you can expect good results within a month. :D

lulushka8
24-07-2011, 08:49 PM
@carlperkins: this is off-topic but i think george harrison used to liken himself to carl perkins in the early days of the beatles, called himself something-Perkins and used to sing all his songs, everytime i see your name i think of George Harrison. :)

carlperkins
24-07-2011, 09:18 PM
@carlperkins: this is off-topic but i think george harrison used to liken himself to carl perkins in the early days of the beatles, called himself something-Perkins and used to sing all his songs, everytime i see your name i think of George Harrison. :)

Off topic, sorry Domathy, but to let you on to a little secret it's not my real name. I'm a massive fan of rockabilly, hillbilly and early country music and Carl Perkins is a bit of a God in that genre. The Beatles loved him, they covered more CP songs than any other artists songs they covered. Check out this brilliant footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA5ueer-xIQ
He went on to die of cancer ten years ago or so. He spent many years at the wrong end of a whisky bottle, and therefore I suppose over acidified his system. Now if only he knew how to alkanise himself he may have survived a bit longer.

domathy
24-07-2011, 09:52 PM
well done carl! (for the no booze not the floating poos)

just want to say that i had this small red eczema patch for 2+ years that would never go away, until now! it's been gone for ages now which makes me think it was yeast related, there was the biggest ever flare up one week into the diet and it looked the worst i'd ever seen it, it must have been a detox reaction as it disappeared the next day and hasn't returned after having it for 2 years, i can't believe it. my gut feeling tells me it was caused by the fruit as i had a fairly clean diet before, just a lot of fruit and yeast products. i just can't believe it's been gone so long, good riddance! this proves that you can expect good results within a month. :D

Awesome. I knew someone with terrible psoriasis down his arms, back and chest - and cleared within 3 weeks on alklaizing supplements

Off topic, sorry Domathy, but to let you on to a little secret it's not my real name. I'm a massive fan of rockabilly, hillbilly and early country music and Carl Perkins is a bit of a God in that genre. The Beatles loved him, they covered more CP songs than any other artists songs they covered. Check out this brilliant footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA5ueer-xIQ
He went on to die of cancer ten years ago or so. He spent many years at the wrong end of a whisky bottle, and therefore I suppose over acidified his system. Now if only he knew how to alkanise himself he may have survived a bit longer.

Thats a great voice!

This is some badass harmonica:

Carl Perkins - Lucille - YouTube

:D

carlperkins
25-07-2011, 10:53 AM
Amazing development, my sinuses cleared in the middle of the night, still not 100%, more like 80%, but enough for me to be able to breathe through my nose, such joy! This diet/treatment seems to be working, looks like you have haelped me out domathy, many thanks. I might start taking a closer look at your Liver Flush thread!

domathy
25-07-2011, 03:20 PM
Amazing development, my sinuses cleared in the middle of the night, still not 100%, more like 80%, but enough for me to be able to breathe through my nose, such joy! This diet/treatment seems to be working, looks like you have haelped me out domathy, many thanks. I might start taking a closer look at your Liver Flush thread!

Great, well done :)

carlperkins
25-07-2011, 03:20 PM
Hi Domothy
Have you any opinion on how asthma may be a result of an acid based diet at all?

domathy
25-07-2011, 03:32 PM
Hi Domothy
Have you any opinion on how asthma may be a result of an acid based diet at all?

Asthma is mostly about dehydration i think. The body restricts breathing to reduce loss of water through respiration (we lose lots of water this way)
Anyway, clears up quick on a good alklaine diet.

domathy
25-07-2011, 03:32 PM
You need good blood if you want a healthy body. Blood cells become bone, muscle and all other body cells. Bad blood=bad body.
Good blood:
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2521/picture1qr.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/picture1qr.png/)
Bad blood:
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domathy
25-07-2011, 03:33 PM
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1309/picture7v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/picture7v.jpg/)


Blood is produced in the small intestine. The body can improvise and build blood out of just about anything. But conversion is required and this uses nerve energy. Also if it is converting inferior nutrients into blood cells, then the blood will be inferior quality. This translates to a less healthy body.
Here is a cross section of the small intestine. The purple dots are new RBC's being formed:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2330/picture7x.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/picture7x.jpg/)

27 feet long
7,200 square feet of surface area
3 to 4 million red blood cells made per second
New blood every 120 days
The heart beats 100,000 times a day, moving 21/2 ounces of blood per pulse – about 8 tons each day.
All the blood circulates throughout the entire body and then through the heart every 3 minutes.

domathy
25-07-2011, 03:34 PM
You build blood with chlorophyll (and fats). In fact, if you look at the molecular structure of your hemoglobin you'll find that the core structure is identical to chlorophyll, except for the center atom—Magnesium in chlorophyll and Iron in heme.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8564/picture6ca.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/picture6ca.jpg/)

When i show these pictures to biologists they wonder why they never were taught this. It is a pretty big hint from mother nature. Strength is all about eating greens. Popeye was on a high chlorophyll diet.


Animal protein clogs the intestinal villus and acids cause damage which reduces absorbtion and compromises blood production:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2330/picture7x.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/picture7x.jpg/)

Acids compromise the small intestine:
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domathy
25-07-2011, 03:35 PM
This guy is vegan and eats pounds of vegetables and wheatgrass/green drink plus takes pints of EFA's per week. He builds blood with greens/fats and builds muscle with blood. Very low protein diet
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1567/picture1md.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/picture1md.jpg/)

Blood becomes skin:
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http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9818/picture2ym.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/picture2ym.jpg/)
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domathy
25-07-2011, 04:17 PM
Where does the Cow get Her Calcium?
From the transmutation of the Mg. which is
found in the chlorophyll molecule of Green plants!

Where does the Cow get Her Protein?
From the transmutation of the Sulfur to Phosphorus which is found in all Green plants!

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5048/picture8su.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/picture8su.jpg/)

Animal Protien clogs the colon:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7411/picture3aa.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/picture3aa.jpg/)

domathy
25-07-2011, 04:22 PM
Kirlian photography:

Steak:
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Ionized greens powder:
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Sprouted lentil:
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scottishryan
25-07-2011, 05:43 PM
Excellent Posts Domathy!!

Well I am successfully fighting my tooth infection...it had actually spread to another tooth in front...hence the amount of time its lingering!! worse I have had but subsiding fast with the use of MMS & Garlic cloves/tablets and some Echinacea to boost the immune system.

My eating is all to pot as I am just grabbing things when I can eat but fully believe that it would be gone if I was on higher alkaline eating just now. I am at around 50/50 to be honest and only just got back to my green juice this morning.

The reason for no dentist Domathy is I have a fear of needles :o, I have not been since getting a tooth out years ago and I knwo when I go, its a case of nothing can be done till infection is gone and popping me on Anti-Biotic which I feel can be matched with natural remedies...Its a sore test on myself finding a cure :p

MMS may be a key part though ;)

lulushka8
25-07-2011, 06:33 PM
aww Ryan I completely empathise with you, I have a similar fear as I had 4 teeth pulled out in my teens due to crowding and it was torture, plus anytime i have a blood test they have to do it 50 times with different sized needles cause they can never find my vessels properly or something like that, i've got weird blood vessels, it's horrible.

I'm know your pain will subside, sometimes this just happens and a good diet completely clears it up in a day so stay on the positive. :D

Carl, that's so interesting about CP, i knew the beatles were big fans of his but didn't know much about him. i had a sneaky suspicion that wasn't your real name. ;)

scottishryan
25-07-2011, 07:02 PM
Thanks lulushka8 :):)

My desk here is like a pharmacy and herbal shop mixed together :p:p The good point is, I am not needing as much pain killers, been nearly 12 hours since last and compare that to a few days ago whereas I was on then non-stop due to pain at times. This shows me that my body is winning now...will keep the Garlic, MMS, Echinacea and green juices going though till no sign at all.

I then need to gather my thoughts and get back to alkalising fully....I ask myself....what chance would such infections have in a body in perfect PH ;)

On a side note...had a lovely Millet breakfast (yes breakfast) mixed with spices, sweetcorn and organic peas with loads of garlic :p but my dinner was a horror acidic wise....slowly but surely ;)

lulushka8
25-07-2011, 07:44 PM
hahaha, what was the horrific dinner? fish and chips?? (promise i won't condemn)

scottishryan
25-07-2011, 08:14 PM
hahaha, what was the horrific dinner? fish and chips?? (promise i won't condemn)

Nah...I wont eat things that have lived :p

I made a cheese and onion with some jalapeños wrap but toasted it for added affect :D and had it with fries and baked beans....I could not resist. Call it, feeling sorry for self food but I enjoyed it fully and consciously so not too bad.

so half the day perfect, half the day not so much but at least I can laugh at it :p

I am more chuffed I got back into my green juices, got some bicarb water in the system and feeling a little more perked up ;)

lulushka8
25-07-2011, 08:36 PM
Nah...I wont eat things that have lived :p

I made a cheese and onion with some jalapeños wrap but toasted it for added affect :D and had it with fries and baked beans....I could not resist. Call it, feeling sorry for self food but I enjoyed it fully and consciously so not too bad.

so half the day perfect, half the day not so much but at least I can laugh at it :p

I am more chuffed I got back into my green juices, got some bicarb water in the system and feeling a little more perked up ;)

not that bad, at least you made it yourself, and plenty of fiber with the beans. :rolleyes: the fact that you enjoyed it means it shouldn't have much effect over your health anyway. green juices are excellent, and i feel the same about the animals, they can never be food in my eyes. :D

scottishryan
25-07-2011, 08:56 PM
not that bad, at least you made it yourself, and plenty of fiber with the beans. :rolleyes: the fact that you enjoyed it means it shouldn't have much effect over your health anyway. green juices are excellent, and i feel the same about the animals, they can never be food in my eyes. :D

Fully agreed regarding animals :) No one can in my eyes, justify why we need to eat animals and no amount of preaching will ever change my mind on this.

:D

domathy
25-07-2011, 09:28 PM
Fully agreed regarding animals :) No one can in my eyes, justify why we need to eat animals and no amount of preaching will ever change my mind on this.

:D

Hey, good to be reading your posts again :)
Keep on with the MMS - that will be making a difference. I think you can do a mouth wash if you google for directions.

moods999
25-07-2011, 09:35 PM
Hi, i will buy 6 sets mms in the next days. what else can i do to remove a lsd type fungus from my brain that posinons me all day long? :D I drink chlorella and lemon juice as much as i can.

akana
25-07-2011, 11:32 PM
What very well may be the largest free alkaline recipe database on the web! :)

http://acidalkalinediet.com/recipes/

akana
25-07-2011, 11:57 PM
From another site...

Rejuvenating Alkaline Recipes

AsparaZincado Soup
15 minutes to prepare. Serves 3-5. This great soup is rich in zinc and has a rich tomatoeee flavor.
12 stalks medium asparagus (or 17 thin stalks)
1 avocado
5-6 tomatoes
1 cup fresh parsley
3-5 sun-dried tomatoes (bottled in olive oil)
¼cup dried onion
4 cloves fresh garlic
1 red bell pepper
Bragg Liquid Aminos to taste
1-2 Spice Hunter ’s Herbes de Provence
2 tsp. Spice Hunter Deliciously Dill
2 lemons or limes, cut in thin slices

Trim and dice the tips from the asparagus and set aside for a garnish. In a food processor or Vita-Mix blend the asparagus and red tomatoes, parsley, dried tomatoes, spices, garlic, onion and red bell pepper. Then blend the avocado until soup is smooth and creamy. Warm in an electric skillet and garnish with lemon or lime slices on top. Season with Bragg ’s to taste or serve cold in the summertime. Sprinkle diced asparagus tips on top just before serving. Yummy!

AvoRado Kid Super Green Shake
This is by far Dr. Young and Shelley ’s favorite cool green shake, and they enjoy it for breakfast, lunch and dinner-or anytime they want a snack. It ’s a great way to get concentrated nutrition and chlorophyll of green powder and soy sprouts powder. The cucumber and lime cool the body, and the essential fats in the avocado and soy sprouts make this shake one that you can burn on for many hours. Serves 1.
1 avocado
½English cucumber
1 tomatillo
1 lime (peeled)
2 cups fresh spinach
2 scoops soy sprouts powder
1 scoop SuperGreens
1 pkg. stevia (Shelley recommends Sweet Leaf With Fiber)
6-8 ice cubes

Blend on high speed to a thick, smooth consistency. Serve immediately.

Variations:
Add coconut milk or fresh almond milk for a cremiwer shake
Substitute a grapefruit or lemon for the lime for a different taste.
Add 1 tablespoon fresh grated ginger
Add some seasonings that are bottled in oil (without alcohol) for a new exciting twist of flavor.
In the summer, freeze AvoRado Kid into pops for a cool frozen treat.

Broccoli/Cauliflower Soup
1-2 cups broccoli, chopped
1-2 cups cauliflower, chopped
1 cup cucumber juice or veggie broth
1 avocado ( off cleanse can use ½cup soaked almonds)
1 clove garlic, minced
¼tsp. Curry powder
1 Tbs. lemon or lime juice
1 Tbs. Braggs Liquid Aminos
½tsp. Real Salt

In a food processor or blender, combine the almonds with the cucumber juice or broth, and garlic. Blend well. With machine still running, add the broccoli and cauliflower and blend until smooth. Lastly blend in seasonings and lemon/lime juice, Bragg Aminos and salt. Add more broth or water to desired consistency.
Variation: Use this recipe for salad dressing.

Celery Soup
4-5 stalks of celery (including leaves if fresh)
3 cups pure water
2 Tbs yeast-free instant vegetable broth

Cook celery until tenderized. Add water and broth mix. Pour all into blender. Blend 15-29 seconds. Reheat and serve. Use flax seed oil, Bragg liquid Aminos, and cayenne pepper to taste.


Celery/Cauliflower Soup

1 onion peeled and chopped
1 whole head of celery, trimmed & chopped
(save some celery leaves for garnish)
1 head cauliflower, trimmed and chopped

1 Tbs. Olive or Udo ’s Oil
1-2 quarts vegetable stock
½-1 quarts almond milk
salt, pepper to taste
use seasonings of choice to taste






1. Steam-fry the onion in a little water in a large soup pan for about 5 minutes without browning. Pulse-chop the celery and cauliflower in the food processor until finely chopped.
2. Add the celery and cauliflower mix to the pan and warm until tender. Add the vegetable stock, almond milk and simmer for about 15-30 minutes, or you can leave this raw and not cook at all.
3. Puree the soup mixture in a blender or food processor until smooth texture is achieved. Season with salt and other seasonings of choice. Serve warm or cold.

Chunkie Veggie Soup

2 1/2 cups fresh carrot juice
1 avocado
6-8 celery stalks
2 carrots
1 summer squash
small bunch of arugula
spice options: parsley, basil, coriander


For broth, blend carrot juice, avocado and 3-4 celery stalks. Grate squash and carrots and celery, adding finely chopped arugula and other fresh green spices last. Serve in a bowl or cup; decorate with fresh herbs.

Clean and Simple Soup
1 cucumber, cubed
1 avocado, cubed
mint (optional)

Place ingredients in food processor with S blade. Mix until almost smooth. Serve garnished with mint leaf.


Creamy or Crunchy Broccoli Soup
15 minutes to prepare. This high-protein soup is for broccoli lovers!

2 cups vegetable stock or water
3-4 cups broccoli, chopped
1 red bell pepper, chopped
2 red or yellow onions, chopped
1 avocado
1-2 stalks celery, cut in large pieces
braggs liquid amino to taste
cumin and ginger to taste



1. In an electric skillet, warm 2 cups of water or stock, keeping the temperature at or below 118 (finger test). Add the chopped broccoli and warm for 5 minutes.
2. In a blender, puree the warmed broccoli, bell pepper, onion, avocado, and celery, thinning with additional water if necessary to achieve the desired consistency. If desired, save the broccoli stalks, peeling off the tough outer skin; process them in a food processor until they are small chunks, and add to the soup just before serving to add crunch!
3. Serve warm, flavoring with bragg ’s, fresh ginger, cumin or any other spices you like. Add a slice of lemon on top to garnish.

Creamy Tomato Soup
4 Roma tomatoes
2 green onion tips (about 1 inch of white/light green part)
¼green pepper
1 cup vegetable broth
1 avocado
1 teasppon Real Salt
pepper to taste.

Liquefy in blender. Heat just to warm.


Creamy Vegetable Soup
Be sure to blend it thoroughly ( I think blender is best) so you get a rich, even, smooth, creamy texture.

1 cup onion, chopped
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 large leeks, chopped
3 celery stalks, chopped
2 cups shredded green cabbage
½lb asparagus, cut small
(use after cleanse1 pkg. soft FRESH tofu)
4 cups vegetable broth
2 tsp dried dill, 2 tsp dried basil, 1 tsp dried oregano
Real Salt and pepper to taste



In a skillet, steam-fry the onions and garlic for a few minutes. Add cabbage, celery and asparagus. Transfer to a large pot, add the leeks and vegetable broth. Stir in the parsley, dill, basil, oregano, salt and pepper. Simmer just to brighten veggies. Let cool a bit, (the puree in a blender or food processor two cups at a time with some of the tofu), and return to another pot. Heat soup, not to exceed 118, and serve.

Gazpacho

4 cups fresh tomato juice (you make)
½cup cucumber, chopped
¼cup green bell pepper, chopped
¼cup celery, finely chopped
1 Tbs. Olive Oil
½tsp. Pepper
½tsp. Basil
½tsp. Garlic, minced



Combine all ingredients. Cover and chill overnight.

French Gourmet Puree
Serves 6.
1 avocado
2 stalks celery
1 head Romaine lettuce
1 small tomato
1 handful spinach
1 small cucumber, peeled
2 cloves garlic
1/3 onion
2 tablespoons olive oil
Herbes de Provence
Sprouts (optional)

Puree all vegetables with a Green Star/Green Power juicer with a blank blade for pureeing, doing the onion last. Mix in olive oil, and Herbes du Provence to taste. Serve with sprouts sprinkled on top.


Green Gazpacho Two Ways
Serves 4-6 people. Wonderful alkaline soup, packed with chlorophyll.

2 avocados
2 green bell pepper
6 roma tomatoes
11/2 large English cucumbers (or 2 average size)
1 head Romaine lettuce
½red onion
3 cloves garlic
¼cup fresh lemon juice
¼teaspoon Real Salt
2 tablespoons loive oil
11/2 teaspoons basil
½teaspoon dill
¼teaspoon oregano
1/8 teaspoon sage powder

Chop all vegetables. Mix avocado, lemon juice and garlic in food processor (with S blade), until smooth and empty into bowl. Process tomatoes and romaine until smooth, and add to bowl. Pulse peppers, cucumbers and onion until chunky (approximately 1/8-1/4 inch) and empty into bowl. Mix well with salt and olive oil, and herbs if desired.


Green Power Coctail
4 cups sprouts
4 cups green tops
1 cup kale
1 cup beets
½wheat grass



Green Raw Soup
This is wonderfully alkalizing soup that I prefer served cold in the summer months and warmed in the winter months. It ’s energizing and easy to digest.
1-2 avocados
1-2 cucumbers, peeled and seeded
1 jalapeno pepper, seeded
½yellow onion, diced
juice of ½lemon
1-2 cups light vegetable stock or water
3 cloves roasted garlic
1 Tbs. fresh cilantro
1 Tbs. fresh parsley
1 carrot, finely diced

Puree all ingredients (except onions and carrots) in a food processor or Vita Mix. Add more or less water to desired consistency. Add onions and raw crunch bits at the end for a garnish. Yum!


Healing Soup
This soup is especially southing when tired, stressed or sick with cold flu and is very anti-fungal.

2-3 whole garlic cloves
1 large onion
3 Tbs yeast-free instant vegetable broth
2-3 quarts water or veggie broth
1 cucumber
(optional: carrots, cabbage, celery and any other veggie desired)
2 Tbs fresh cilantro
2 tsp frsh grated ginger
Real Salt to taste



Chop and crush garlic cloves into small diced pieces and lightly steam-fry. Set aside. Put whole onion in water in a deep pan, simmer until onion is transparent (approx. 1 hour). Add garlic and yeast-free instant veggie broth. Slice cucumber ( and optional veggies) and add to soup. Simmer 10-15 minutes. Add fresh ginger, cilantro and Real Salt to taste.

Minty Mock Malt
½English cucumber
juice of 1 lime & juice of 1 grapefruit
1 avocado
1 cup raw spinach
½can coconut milk
1 teaspoon SuperGreens
2 teaspoons Super Soy Sprouts
8-10 drops Prime pH
2-4 springs for fresh mint leaves or ½teaspoon mint flavoring (no alcohol)
14 ice cubes

Combine all ingredients and blend to desired consistency.
Variation: Leave out the ice cubes, and freeze malt into pops.
Mock Split-Pea Soup

2 carrots, shaved
2 celery stalks, cut as desired
6 sprigs of parsley
1 onion, chopped
4 cups water

2 cups crisp-steamed green beans
1 ½cups crisp-steamed asparagus
dash of mace
1 bay leaf
1 tsp. Vegetized or Real Salt


Chop all vegetable ingredients in food processor and add to 4 cups of water or
Vegetable stock in a soup pot. Lightly simmer until vegetables are just softened-about 8-10 minutes-then out contents into a blender and thoroughly puree until thick, creamy texture is achieved. Add salt and seasonings. Serve warm. Optional seasoning suggestions include ½tsp. Cumin, ½tsp. Dill, ½tsp. Herbs de provence, and a quirt or two of Braggs.

Popeye Soup
10 minutes to prepare. This is a wonderful alkalizing soup because of the cucumbers and greens. Serve warm with a fresh tortilla for dipping.

1 avocado
1 cup water or vegetable stock
2 cucumbers, unwaxed
2 green onions
1 clove garlic
1/3 red bell pepper
1 cup fresh raw spinach
Bragg Liquid Aminos or Real Salt to taste
Mid Eastern Spices (Spice Hunter ’s Garam Masala,
½-1 tsp., Curry Seasoning, ½-1 tsp., and Zip, ½tsp.)
fresh lime juice to taste

In a Vita- Mix or a blender, add the avocado and half of the water or stock and puree, then add the rest of the ingredients one at a time, blending to desired thickness and thinning with the remaining water if desired. Add Braggs Amino ’s or Real Salt to taste, and flavor with spices and lime juice to your desire. You might add a couple of minced sun-dried tomatoes too! Experiment!

Soothing Cooling Tomato Soup
Serves 2.

6 medium tomatoes, juiced and strained (pour through a fine mesh strainer or a nylon knee-high stocking)
½avocado
¾cup fresh coconut water (make sure this is fresh, taken from a coconut.)
1 cucumber, juiced
Real Salt to taste
Stevia (optional)

Blend until smooth. For a sweeter soup add stevia to taste.

Vegetable Minestrone Soup

1 small cabbage
1 onion
1 red bell pepper
2 carrots
2 celery
1 zucchini
1 yellow squash

Cut vegetables as preferred. Cover carrots and celery with water in soup pot. Cook gently until they just begin to “give ”, then add remaining ingredients. Do not overcook.

Serve hot with flax seed oil, Bragg Liquid Aminos and cayenne pepper to taste.

The Raw Perfection Morning Monster Juice
1 bunch of kale
1 whole head of celery
1 lemon
1 handful of spinach leaves
1 avocado
1 teaspoon SuperGreens
1 chili pepper
Put kale, celery and lemon through juicer,
Then combine in blender with remaining ingredients.

This juice is great when you need something that ’s going to stick with you until mid-day; the fat will help you feel full. Besides providing the fat, the avocado is the key to the creaminess of this smoothie.


Very Veggie Shake
1 cup distilled water
¼cup flax seed oil or olive oil
2 small cucumbers. Sliced
1 cup spinach
1/3 head Romaine lettuce
½cup broccoli
¼cup cilantro
¼cup parsley
2 stalks celery, cut into pieces
1/8 cup fresh mint leaves (or teaspoon dry)
2 medium limes (or 1 lemon)
1/8 cup fresh dill (optional)

Place water in a blender then add oil. Turn blender on low speed and add remaining ingredients one at a time. When everything is chopped up, turn blender to high speed until you get a beautiful smooth and creamy shake.

leon11
26-07-2011, 02:13 AM
domathy, you make things easier to understand by the day :)

page 77 was :eek:

that photography is amazing and says it all really

NOT MILK?! :cool:

leon11
26-07-2011, 02:14 AM
thanks for all the recipe links akana

scottishryan
26-07-2011, 02:42 PM
akana, you are a star...thank you :)

Domathy, You are right about the MMS...its fantastic! Another key to this is Garlic...natures antibiotic and from what I am reading....mostly goes after the bad stuff and not the good stuff. Right now I am drinking organic tomato, cayenne pepper, 10 garlic cloves( :eek:) Turmeric, ginger with some coriander which has been gently heated as a strong spicy soup.

I had various slight niggles in the tooth again you see so I want to blast this infection out rather than mask it with pain killers. I will flippen stink later :p

One question for all you good peeps though....any suggestions for something that can replace the good bacteria just in case? something staying in line with this topic :confused:

lulushka8
26-07-2011, 03:27 PM
Thank you Akana! :D:D:D

domathy
26-07-2011, 07:52 PM
domathy, you make things easier to understand by the day :)

page 77 was :eek:

that photography is amazing and says it all really

NOT MILK?! :cool:

Good, im glad it makes sense. :D I'll try and post more pics soon - my laptop is down and im using a horrid little netbook so cant do much atm.

akana, you are a star...thank you :)

Domathy, You are right about the MMS...its fantastic! Another key to this is Garlic...natures antibiotic and from what I am reading....mostly goes after the bad stuff and not the good stuff. Right now I am drinking organic tomato, cayenne pepper, 10 garlic cloves( :eek:) Turmeric, ginger with some coriander which has been gently heated as a strong spicy soup.

I had various slight niggles in the tooth again you see so I want to blast this infection out rather than mask it with pain killers. I will flippen stink later :p

One question for all you good peeps though....any suggestions for something that can replace the good bacteria just in case? something staying in line with this topic :confused:

Cool. Im doing 10 drops of MMS serveral times per day - and can feel it working. So keep going and building up the dose.

That soup sounds potent :)

domathy
26-07-2011, 07:54 PM
Yes, thanks akana, I have the book that those recepies are from and its good - but lots of the recepies are a bit too much effort for me. That said i really do need to start being a bit more creative in the kitchen :)

akana
26-07-2011, 07:59 PM
Welcome :)

You got pretty good recipes yourself, Domathy.

Today I had fresh grapefruit juice for the first time since my sugar detox, and it tasted so sweet! I've never tasted grapefruit this sweet before. The only reason I made it, was because I was feeling sick and needed to up my vitamin C intake. Does anyone know any other good sources of Vitamin C, but comes with less sugar content?

And also, I'm pretty sure I have candida, so how long do I need to be starch/sugar/yeast free , before adding in the 20% into the mix?

domathy
27-07-2011, 10:54 AM
Welcome :)

You got pretty good recipes yourself, Domathy.

Today I had fresh grapefruit juice for the first time since my sugar detox, and it tasted so sweet! I've never tasted grapefruit this sweet before. The only reason I made it, was because I was feeling sick and needed to up my vitamin C intake. Does anyone know any other good sources of Vitamin C, but comes with less sugar content?

And also, I'm pretty sure I have candida, so how long do I need to be starch/sugar/yeast free , before adding in the 20% into the mix?

Spinach and broccoli are very high in vitamin C - did the grapefruit juice help and make you feel better?

Its difficult to answer the candida question without testing your blood. Also, most people i work with drink an alklaizing green drink which speeds the process of clearing the yeast. Maybe getting some 'Innerlight Supergreens' would be a good idea - the company is based in the USA - or get some pH Miracle greens and pH drops from Dr Youngs site www.phmiracleliving.com.

glacidtek
27-07-2011, 11:29 AM
This guy is vegan and eats pounds of vegetables and wheatgrass/green drink plus takes pints of EFA's per week. He builds blood with greens/fats and builds muscle with blood. Very low protein diet
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1567/picture1md.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/picture1md.jpg/)

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Thanks for this thread Domathy, I have been lurking and reading for some time.

I'm intregued by the above quote - EFA's.. is that essential fatty acids?
Who is the guy? I'm intregued by his diet and results.

I'm strict vegetarian and been trying to increase muscle mass for the last year and a half by weight training and high protein diet... although I have added 2 stones, I have not gained anything in 6 months.

I have cut sugars completely, cut white flours, grains and potatoes - replaced by variety of veg and loads of lentils, sprouts, nuts and seeds.

Nuts and seeds are being milked (thanks to advise on another thread - thank you Lulushka) to add to porridge and drink as after training protein base for smoothies.... and the fibre from the nut waste is recycled to make bread with 1/3 nut fibre, 1/3 spelt, 1/3 wholmeal flour Soda bread.

I have been spiking my water with fresh lemon and lime - and will be getting Sodium Bicarb soon, aswell as avokados galore!

I wondered what you can advise would help me gain lean musle mass - I'm weight trainin hard, but my diet cannot cope with the riggourus requierments to convert to muscle!!!

Thanks for your help.





(typical day:

breakfast -
nut/seed milk with homemade nut/seed/dried fruit musli

mid-morning -
2x boiled eggs

lunch -
dahl lentils/muung beans with salad or sweet potatoes

after gym -
handfull of nuts/seeds
nut/seed milk smoothie with fruit and 2x raw eggs

dinner-
fried beans, guacamolie on veg and swet potatoes)

akana
27-07-2011, 12:07 PM
Spinach and broccoli are very high in vitamin C - did the grapefruit juice help and make you feel better?

Its difficult to answer the candida question without testing your blood. Also, most people i work with drink an alklaizing green drink which speeds the process of clearing the yeast. Maybe getting some 'Innerlight Supergreens' would be a good idea - the company is based in the USA - or get some pH Miracle greens and pH drops from Dr Youngs site www.phmiracleliving.com.

Yes, thank you :)

Would a blood test detect only systematic blood candida, or would it also detect candida in the gut?

domathy
27-07-2011, 12:52 PM
Yes, thank you :)

Would a blood test detect only systematic blood candida, or would it also detect candida in the gut?

Im glad to hear youre feeling better :)

If there is an issue with candida in the gut then it will be reflected in the dry blood. But if you have a real problem with candida in the gut than i would expect to see it in the blood too.

akana
27-07-2011, 01:28 PM
Thank you. :) Noted.

btw I just made the best grapefruit slushie:

Add 1 peeled grapefruit in the blender
Add 1/4 cup water
Add 1 cup ice

Blend until smooth.

Note: for thicker consistency, add less water and more ice. For a thinner consistency, add less ice, and more water.

akana
27-07-2011, 02:14 PM
Essential Details on Acid and Alkaline-Forming Effects of Food and How Your Body Maintains a Healthy pH

The body has three major mechanisms at work at all times to prevent forces from shifting the pH of your blood outside of the 7.35 to 7.45 range.

These mechanisms are:


Buffer Systems

Carbonic Acid-Bicarbonate Buffer System

Protein Buffer System
Phosphate Buffer System
Exhalation of Carbon Dioxide

Elimination of Hydrogen Ions via Kidneys


The vast majority of highly processed foods - like white flour products and white sugar - have an acid-forming effect on your system, and if you spend years eating a poor diet that is mainly acid-forming, you will overwork some of the buffering systems mentioned above to a point where you could create undesirable changes in your health.

For example, your phosphate buffer system uses different phosphate ions in your body to neutralize strong acids and bases. About 85% of the phosphate ions that are used in your phosphate buffer system comes from calcium phosphate salts, which are structural components of your bones and teeth. If your body fluids are regularly exposed to large quantities of acid-forming foods and liquids, your body will draw upon its calcium phosphate reserves to supply your phosphate buffer system to neutralize the acid-forming effects of your diet. Over time, this may lead to structural weakness in your bones and teeth.

Drawing on your calcium phosphate reserves at a high rate can also increase the amount of calcium that is eliminated via your genito-urinary system, which is why a predominantly acid-forming diet can increase your risk of developing calcium-rich kidney stones.

Since your buffering systems have to work all the time anyway to neutralize the acids that are formed from everyday metabolic activities, it's in your best interest to follow a diet that doesn't create unnecessary work for your buffering systems.

source: http://drbenkim.com/ph-body-blood-foods-acid-alkaline.htm




EDIT: I just made my doggie her green smoothie. Kale, avocado, water, tomato, and a bit of organic powdered milk for the taste. She loved it! Now I'm baking her a sweet potato. She is going to benefit from veggies tremendously!

domathy
27-07-2011, 08:58 PM
Thanks for this thread Domathy, I have been lurking and reading for some time.

I'm intregued by the above quote - EFA's.. is that essential fatty acids?
Who is the guy? I'm intregued by his diet and results.

Hi and welcome :)

Yes, EFA's means fatty acids. This guy was one of Dr Young's clients and at the time he had been on a vegan diet and using lots of concentrated wheatgrass and oils. The wheatgrass powder alone would be about £25 per day so not affordable - but he's an extreme example to illustrate building muscle with blood.

I'm strict vegetarian and been trying to increase muscle mass for the last year and a half by weight training and high protein diet... although I have added 2 stones, I have not gained anything in 6 months.

You need oils and lots of raw greens to build blood with. L-carnatine is a useful supplement. But I use a really good wheatgrass based product which oxygenates the blood and reduces lactic acid and the results are incredible at the gym.

I have cut sugars completely, cut white flours, grains and potatoes - replaced by variety of veg and loads of lentils, sprouts, nuts and seeds.

Good work :)

Nuts and seeds are being milked (thanks to advise on another thread - thank you Lulushka) to add to porridge and drink as after training protein base for smoothies.... and the fibre from the nut waste is recycled to make bread with 1/3 nut fibre, 1/3 spelt, 1/3 wholmeal flour Soda bread.

Use hemp protein instead of whey or soy.

I have been spiking my water with fresh lemon and lime - and will be getting Sodium Bicarb soon, aswell as avokados galore!

Great, and avocados are key to success!

I wondered what you can advise would help me gain lean musle mass - I'm weight trainin hard, but my diet cannot cope with the riggourus requierments to convert to muscle!!!

Thanks for your help.

email me at all-about-energy@hotmail.co.uk and i can send attachments and details about what i reccomend for training. I will try to post soon pictures of all the different products and brands etc, but have my hands full atm.



(typical day:

breakfast -
nut/seed milk with homemade nut/seed/dried fruit musli

mid-morning -
2x boiled eggs

lunch -
dahl lentils/muung beans with salad or sweet potatoes

after gym -
handfull of nuts/seeds
nut/seed milk smoothie with fruit and 2x raw eggs

dinner-
fried beans, guacamolie on veg and swet potatoes)

Yeah, thats pretty good. Try to make sure you soak nuts and seeds. Just keep reading and learning and fine tune your diet as you go along.

Thank you. :) Noted.

btw I just made the best grapefruit slushie:

Add 1 peeled grapefruit in the blender
Add 1/4 cup water
Add 1 cup ice

Blend until smooth.

[COLOR="green"]That sounds lovely. Its actually warm enough in the UK today to actually want a cold drink!

Note: for thicker consistency, add less water and more ice. For a thinner consistency, add less ice, and more water.

Essential Details on Acid and Alkaline-Forming Effects of Food and How Your Body Maintains a Healthy pH

The body has three major mechanisms at work at all times to prevent forces from shifting the pH of your blood outside of the 7.35 to 7.45 range.

These mechanisms are:


Buffer Systems

Carbonic Acid-Bicarbonate Buffer System

Protein Buffer System
Phosphate Buffer System
Exhalation of Carbon Dioxide

Elimination of Hydrogen Ions via Kidneys


The vast majority of highly processed foods - like white flour products and white sugar - have an acid-forming effect on your system, and if you spend years eating a poor diet that is mainly acid-forming, you will overwork some of the buffering systems mentioned above to a point where you could create undesirable changes in your health.

For example, your phosphate buffer system uses different phosphate ions in your body to neutralize strong acids and bases. About 85% of the phosphate ions that are used in your phosphate buffer system comes from calcium phosphate salts, which are structural components of your bones and teeth. If your body fluids are regularly exposed to large quantities of acid-forming foods and liquids, your body will draw upon its calcium phosphate reserves to supply your phosphate buffer system to neutralize the acid-forming effects of your diet. Over time, this may lead to structural weakness in your bones and teeth.

Drawing on your calcium phosphate reserves at a high rate can also increase the amount of calcium that is eliminated via your genito-urinary system, which is why a predominantly acid-forming diet can increase your risk of developing calcium-rich kidney stones.

Since your buffering systems have to work all the time anyway to neutralize the acids that are formed from everyday metabolic activities, it's in your best interest to follow a diet that doesn't create unnecessary work for your buffering systems.

source: http://drbenkim.com/ph-body-blood-foods-acid-alkaline.htm

Thats a very good article :)


EDIT: I just made my doggie her green smoothie. Kale, avocado, water, tomato, and a bit of organic powdered milk for the taste. She loved it! Now I'm baking her a sweet potato. She is going to benefit from veggies tremendously!

Haha, love it!

plam
27-07-2011, 11:02 PM
EDIT: I just made my doggie her green smoothie. Kale, avocado, water, tomato, and a bit of organic powdered milk for the taste. She loved it! Now I'm baking her a sweet potato. She is going to benefit from veggies tremendously!

Just don't tell me you're turning your dog vegetarian? :D

lighthouse
28-07-2011, 09:03 AM
(typical day:

breakfast -
nut/seed milk with homemade nut/seed/dried fruit musli

mid-morning -
2x boiled eggs

lunch -
dahl lentils/muung beans with salad or sweet potatoes

after gym -
handfull of nuts/seeds
nut/seed milk smoothie with fruit and 2x raw eggs

dinner-
fried beans, guacamolie on veg and swet potatoes)

Either eat something real, or forget the idea you will put
on some real muscle mass.
Sorry, that's how it is.
With diet like that, there is nothing your body can do.

I know this alkalizing bunch will crucify me, :D,
but there aren't enough proteins for anything in what you're eating.
I made some great results at the gym, but not eating like that.
(I'm vegetarian too, by the way.)

Just don't tell me you're turning your dog vegetarian? :D

Talking of normal, eh? :D

akana
28-07-2011, 09:20 AM
Just don't tell me you're turning your dog vegetarian? :D

We tried to make my cats and dog vegan a while back, but now we've switched her to raw meat.

Feeding companion animals commercial pet foods may be jeopardizing their health. Supermarket pet foods are often composed of ground-up parts of animals that U.S. Department of Agriculture inspectors have deemed unfit for human consumption. The flesh of animals who fall into one of the categories of the four D’s—dead, dying, diseased, or disabled—is what often goes into pet food. One Food and Drug Administration (FDA) specialist says that the unrendered protein in food may come from heads, feet, viscera, and other animal parts. Many of these animals have died of infections and other diseases. Pet food has also been recalled during mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), outbreaks because of the risk that contaminated meat might have been processed into the food. One deputy commissioner states that cats in particular “are susceptible to BSE.”

http://www.peta.org/issues/Companion-Animals/meatless-meals-for-dogs-and-cats.aspx

Also most pet food is composed of primarily grain, a 'filler'. Dogs shoudn't be eating grain!

akana
28-07-2011, 09:23 AM
Talking of normal, eh? :D

One remarkable example is that of Bramble, a border collie whose vegan diet of rice, lentils, and organic vegetables contributed to a nearly record-breaking lifespan of at least 27 years.

scottishryan
28-07-2011, 10:46 AM
Vegetarian Dogs and Cats

Many vegetarians and vegans feed healthful, meatless diets to their companion animals. One remarkable example is that of Bramble, a 27-year-old border collie whose vegan diet of rice, lentils, and organic vegetables earned her consideration by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world's oldest living dog in 2002. Studies have shown that the ailments associated with meat consumption in humans, such as allergies, cancer, and kidney, heart, and bone problems, also affect many nonhumans. Pet food has also been recalled during mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), scares because of the risk that contaminated meat was processed into the food. One deputy commissioner states that cats especially "are susceptible to BSE."

The nutritional needs of dogs and cats are easily met with a balanced vegan diet and certain supplements. James Peden, author of Vegetarian Cats & Dogs, developed Vegepet™ supplements to add to vegetarian and vegan recipes. They are nutritionally balanced and also come in special formulas for kittens, puppies, and lactating cats and dogs.

Some people wonder if it's "unnatural" to omit meat from the diet of a dog or cat. Animals in the wild commonly eat quite a lot of plant matter. Besides, to feed them the meat that they would naturally eat, you would have to serve them whole mice or birds or allow them to hunt for themselves, an option that is unfair to native species of birds and other small animals, since companion cats and dogs have been removed from the food chain and have advantages that free-roaming animals lack. Vegetarian or vegan dogs and cats enjoy their food and good health, and a vegetarian diet for your companion animal is ethically consistent with animal rights philosophy.

http://www.peta.org/living/companion-animals/vegetarian-cats-and-dogs.aspx



Vegan Body-builders:

http://veganbodybuilding.com/profile_avi_3.jpg

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/profile_avi_2.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/php51S9HMPM.jpg

World Class Bodybuilder is RAW VEGAN- huge muscles from meatless diet - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_aAjxEHLw

Famous Vegetarian and Vegan Bodybuilders, Athletes, Sportmen and Sportwomen - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIcSuA2b_Wc

Who needs meat ;) If you want it, eat it, if you do not don't but do not preach to others....we are all different and do things for our own spiritual and physical growth :)

ps: My pets do eat meat but I am open to all possibilities and viewpoints...Horses and courses and all that :)

domathy
28-07-2011, 11:27 AM
One remarkable example is that of Bramble, a border collie whose vegan diet of rice, lentils, and organic vegetables contributed to a nearly record-breaking lifespan of at least 27 years.

Go Bramble :)

Here's a good animal case study:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2870/tigerh.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/tigerh.png/)



Vegan Body-builders:

http://veganbodybuilding.com/profile_avi_3.jpg

http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/profile_avi_2.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/php51S9HMPM.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_aAjxEHLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_aAjxEHLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIcSuA2b_Wc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIcSuA2b_Wc

Who needs meat ;) If you want it, eat it, if you do not don't but do not preach to others....we are all different and do things for our own spiritual and physical growth :)

ps: My pets do eat meat but I am open to all possibilities and viewpoints...Horses and courses and all that :)

Great post :)

domathy
28-07-2011, 11:32 AM
The High Protein Approach
19th Century German Research: 120 grams of protein per day
Conventional Nutritionists dropped this to: 60-90 grams of protein per day
Recent research suggests: 25 grams of protein per day or less
Dr Young's research suggests less than 5 grams

What is overlooked?
Body has a constantly changing, free amino acid pool

Derived from body sources as cells disorganize providing raw materials for protein complexes

Pool contributes about 70g of protein daily!

The idea that you have to eat all the essential amino acids simultaneously is erroneous.

domathy
28-07-2011, 11:35 AM
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domathy
28-07-2011, 11:44 AM
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1866/pantherc.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/pantherc.png/)

akana
28-07-2011, 11:47 AM
The High Protein Approach
19th Century German Research: 120 grams of protein per day
Conventional Nutritionists dropped this to: 60-90 grams of protein per day
Recent research suggests: 25 grams of protein per day or less
Dr Young's research suggests less than 5 grams



The original "you need protein for health" belief, came about after a study on rats, who were fed more protein, grew in size larger, and at an earlier age then the rats who were fed a normal diet. That was in the 1950s, I believe.

Since then, research has been done, and it was determined that consuming a high-protein diet, activates the growth hormone, and indeed allows a person to grow in size, it also significantly shortens their lifespan.

I don't have any links, but I read that in Dr. Joel Furhman's book, Fasting and Eating for Good Health.

scottishryan
28-07-2011, 12:07 PM
Excellent information guys! Its magnificent to see all sides of information and knowledge and then formulating an opinion...Bravo ;)

domathy
28-07-2011, 12:41 PM
The original "you need protein for health" belief, came about after a study on rats, who were fed more protein, grew in size larger, and at an earlier age then the rats who were fed a normal diet. That was in the 1950s, I believe.

Since then, research has been done, and it was determined that consuming a high-protein diet, activates the growth hormone, and indeed allows a person to grow in size, it also significantly shortens their lifespan.

I don't have any links, but I read that in Dr. Joel Furhman's book, Fasting and Eating for Good Health.

Thats funny, its kind of like telling people that heroin makes you happy.....but without mentioning the negative aspects.

"Protein makes you grow!! ah, but i will also kill you quicker :p"

Excellent information guys! Its magnificent to see all sides of information and knowledge and then formulating an opinion...Bravo ;)

:)

lighthouse
28-07-2011, 05:41 PM
One remarkable example is that of Bramble, a border collie whose vegan diet of rice, lentils, and organic vegetables contributed to a nearly record-breaking lifespan of at least 27 years.

You know how that animal feels living up to 27?
And how it felt for the last decade of his life?
You know that's "good" and "natural" for him?
We humans will torture everything around us
just to prove we're right.
And why, why must it always be the extremes?
One belief system replaced by another,
always diametrically opposite from the first one..
It's sad that we have the power over everything
around us, and everything around us needs to endure
the testing of our belief systems...

Don't take this personally :) , just a few thoughts on the subject.

Thats funny, its kind of like telling people that heroin makes you happy.....but without mentioning the negative aspects.

"Protein makes you grow!! ah, but i will also kill you quicker :p"


Are you all so afraid you won't live up to 100? :rolleyes:
Every achievement humans ever made was not brought out
by mediocracy and fear of how long will I live if I
don't sleep enough, eat enough and don't make my organic salad.
Life is made of intense experiences, not preserving the status quo.
And intense experience make you alive,
although you might live a shorter "life".

As for info for both sides, every hundred year old granpa or granma
will tell you it was little bit of everything in his/her life.
Glass of wine, maybe one smoke a day, maybe no meat for a week.
Balance, not extremes.
No, they were not living in a healthier world.
They lived through the second world war, and through the industrialization,
and no factory filters were known at the time.

I had a dog that had serious liver problems (he was beaten by his former
owners, almost completely destroyed as a young puppy).
He lived up to 11 years because the last years of his life he ate
mostly carbs, and lean meat every once in a while.
On the other hand, my third dog, when couldn't stand on her feet,
14 years old, was put to sleep.
No chyropractors, needles and acupuncture, and other bullshit
owners do to make them feel better as they torture their
pets who are half alive and can't escape the healing.

A little alkalizing advice, ScottishRyan, face the fear from going to a dentist,
and help yourself. :D
All the unneccesary pain your feeling is making
your body acidic.
Don't worry, I have my fears too.
Spending much more time thinking how I will resolve them,
than how many lemonade I drank last week.

This has become a religious thread, I will burn like a witch.. :D :p

scottishryan
28-07-2011, 06:17 PM
A little alkalizing advice, ScottishRyan, face the fear from going to a dentist,
and help yourself. :D
All the unneccesary pain your feeling is making
your body acidic.
Don't worry, I have my fears too.
Spending much more time thinking how I will resolve them,
than how many lemonade I drank last week.

This has become a religious thread, I will burn like a witch.. :D :p

I am actually unsure if you are saying the above out of a caring stance or being sarcastic and looking for things to say to try and get people into debate? I think caring but not sure and I have to make allowances as you are not from an English speaking country :) so please forgive, just being honest and no offence meant!

I am not scared of the dentist, I have a phobia of needles and do not wish to have one injected into my gub. I could face this and was going to this AM after a tough 24 hours but I am OK now and am much more focused on clearing the infection (which the dentist does before working on you anyway so would be days before extraction) . As for acidic or alkaline, I can honestly say I do not give a fook about that while trying to heal the body of this infection, I am just doing what my body feels good doing and trying my best...I am not going to stress over any of it! Clear the infection then heal the body of all the toxins afterwards from pills et al.

This is not a religious thread and on this Icke board I have noticed that some people go into topics and if they are lone voices against the grain of the subject they proclaim the same phrase...its like a dig at people to try and label and gain favour for their side of things. You have shared some great advice and do not need to pre-judge reposes or what is deemed as possible attacks or disagreements to your stance...do not stress it...this is not some witch hunt or right and wrong game. We are all different and know what our body needs and this will vary! who gives a toss what others think but certainly I would not label threads religious because a majority agree and minority do not especially if I was in one....

I would prefer you stay with your input as you make some good points but if the subject annoys you, you really should consider making a new topic and sharing your perspective?

As for the dog thing...know one can possibly know what the dog was feeling :D why not just accept it at face value...its no big issue really! :D

Peace x :)

domathy
28-07-2011, 06:21 PM
You know how that animal feels living up to 27?
And how it felt for the last decade of his life?
You know that's "good" and "natural" for him?
We humans will torture everything around us
just to prove we're right.
And why, why must it always be the extremes?
One belief system replaced by another,
always diametrically opposite from the first one..
It's sad that we have the power over everything
around us, and everything around us needs to endure
the testing of our belief systems...

Don't take this personally :) , just a few thoughts on the subject.



Are you all so afraid you won't live up to 100? :rolleyes:
Every achievement humans ever made was not brought out
by mediocracy and fear of how long will I live if I
don't sleep enough, eat enough and don't make my organic salad.
Life is made of intense experiences, not preserving the status quo.
And intense experience make you alive,
although you might live a shorter "life".

As for info for both sides, every hundred year old granpa or granma
will tell you it was little bit of everything in his/her life.
Glass of wine, maybe one smoke a day, maybe no meat for a week.
Balance, not extremes.
No, they were not living in a healthier world.
They lived through the second world war, and through the industrialization,
and no factory filters were known at the time.

I had a dog that had serious liver problems (he was beaten by his former
owners, almost completely destroyed as a young puppy).
He lived up to 11 years because the last years of his life he ate
mostly carbs, and lean meat every once in a while.
On the other hand, my third dog, when couldn't stand on her feet,
14 years old, was put to sleep.
No chyropractors, needles and acupuncture, and other bullshit
owners do to make them feel better as they torture their
pets who are half alive and can't escape the healing.

A little alkalizing advice, ScottishRyan, face the fear from going to a dentist,
and help yourself. :D
All the unneccesary pain your feeling is making
your body acidic.
Don't worry, I have my fears too.
Spending much more time thinking how I will resolve them,
than how many lemonade I drank last week.

This has become a religious thread, I will burn like a witch.. :D :p

I think i hear what youre saying. That is good to eat healthily and live life on the edge and to the fullest. Im not scared of death, and im not fussed about living to 100 - unless im happy and healthy and i have reason to. I try to be prepared and take my own food with me just because the state of food in most shops is terrible. I have a strong allergy to wheat and most dairy and eggs doesnt agree (i get spots on my face from eggs) - but my diet doesnt stop me being spontaneous. It did in the beginning, but it was my choice to make my life revolve round my diet, and not vice versa - and thats a choice that has now payed off as im healthy again.

And the grandmas and pappas were healthier - sorry. They grew up in their formative years with Good soil, organic veg, no EFM/wifi/mobile phones, no habitual use of antibiotics/vaccines, they were all breast fed, no pasteurization, pasture fed cattle, no intensive farming, clean ionized air (the ones in the country) no chemtrails, clean oceans (not polluted with mercury, DDT, agent orange, oil slicks, industrial chemicals, pesticides etc etc) No nuke testing (see 50's atmospheric nuke tests), no HAARP - and they were buffered by the good genetic strength of their parents. This has been diluted, much of the genetic strength was taken by WW2 (many of the strong males died - one of the main objectives of the war) . Im not saying the had perfect health, but they had seriously strong genetics and immune system. Most people today would be dead from a common cold back then.

But i think the problem is with you failing to see another persons POV - again you project and assume.

And you shouldnt criticise other dog owners unless they have done something cruel, as thats just rude.


So, you worry about your problems, and we'll worry about where our next lemonade is coming from :D

domathy
28-07-2011, 06:24 PM
I am actually unsure if you are saying the above out of a caring stance or being sarcastic and looking for things to say to try and get people into debate? I think caring but not sure and I have to make allowances as you are not from an English speaking country :) so please forgive, just being honest and no offence meant!

I am not scared of the dentist, I have a phobia of needles and do not wish to have one injected into my gub. I could face this and was going to this AM after a tough 24 hours but I am OK now and am much more focused on clearing the infection (which the dentist does before working on you anyway so would be days before extraction) . As for acidic or alkaline, I can honestly say I do not give a fook about that while trying to heal the body of this infection, I am just doing what my body feels good doing and trying my best...I am not going to stress over any of it! Clear the infection then heal the body of all the toxins afterwards from pills et al.

This is not a religious thread and on this Icke board I have noticed that some people go into topics and if they are lone voices against the grain of the subject they proclaim the same phrase...its like a dig at people to try and label and gain favour for their side of things. You have shared some great advice and do not need to pre-judge reposes or what is deemed as possible attacks or disagreements to your stance...do not stress it...this is not some witch hunt or right and wrong game. We are all different and know what our body needs and this will vary! who gives a toss what others think but certainly I would not label threads religious because a majority agree and minority do not especially if I was in one....

I would prefer you stay with your input as you make some good points but if the subject annoys you, you really should consider making a new topic and sharing your perspective?

As for the dog thing...know one can possibly know what the dog was feeling :D why not just accept it at face value...its no big issue really! :D

Peace x :)

Great post :)

domathy
28-07-2011, 06:58 PM
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lighthouse
28-07-2011, 07:24 PM
I have a strong allergy to wheat and most dairy and eggs doesnt agree (i get spots on my face from eggs) - but my diet doesnt stop me being spontaneous. It did in the beginning, but it was my choice to make my life revolve round my diet, and not vice versa - and thats a choice that has now payed off as im healthy again.


Glad we finally got to the bottom of this. ;)


And the grandmas and pappas were healthier - sorry. They grew up in their formative years with Good soil, organic veg, no EFM/wifi/mobile phones, no habitual use of antibiotics/vaccines, they were all breast fed, no pasteurization, pasture fed cattle, no intensive farming, clean ionized air (the ones in the country) no chemtrails, clean oceans (not polluted with mercury, DDT, agent orange, oil slicks, industrial chemicals, pesticides etc etc) No nuke testing (see 50's atmospheric nuke tests), no HAARP - and they were buffered by the good genetic strength of their parents. This has been diluted, much of the genetic strength was taken by WW2 (many of the strong males died - one of the main objectives of the war) . Im not saying the had perfect health, but they had seriously strong genetics and immune system. Most people today would be dead from a common cold back then.


Well, most of the stuff you put there, I simply don't buy into.
Not because of my need for belief this world is good,
but because that theories fail on many accounts.
I know we will never agree on that, I'm long enough on this forums
to know how it goes.
And, er.. Most people back then were dead from common cold.
Yes, I do believe in antibiotics,
and no, no need for us to go there.
No "research" links, thank you.
A very close person of mine did the whole lab research with
one modern widely used antibiotic, no pharma paws were in there,
no background invested money, just pure let's test this shit science.
I saw the results, and I knew everything about the research
from beggining to the end.


But i think the problem is with you failing to see another persons POV - again you project and assume.

And you shouldnt criticise other dog owners unless they have done something cruel, as thats just rude.


You haven't managed to surprise me once in this whole little conversation.
:p I assume very well. Be free to throw in something unexpected.

And by the way, human cries out very soon when he is in pain.
Animal almost never does.
We don't know how many pain we make our pets
go through by prolonging their lives with our
let's make 'em healthy ideas.


So, you worry about your problems, and we'll worry about where our next lemonade is coming from :D

Just be sure your whole life doesn't pass in worrying about that.
That would be a pitty.

Great post :)

Not religious? :rolleyes:
You don't get me do you? :D

Hey ScottishRyan! ;)
I don't see why you keep wondering about why I post on this thread.
I'm here because I'm not into Royal wedding and stuff. :p
I'm not on some kinda secret mission, just exploring
the world of people that are allegedly thinking "outside the box".
I'm interested is it true, and how atmosphere changes through
the years, what's new and is anything seriously new.

Don't have anything against you folks.
You should see me on anti - meat eating threads. :p

I just thought this thread can use something else
besides endless recipes and thank you, you are so great
tapping on the shoulder. :D

domathy
28-07-2011, 07:44 PM
Glad we finally got to the bottom of this. ;)



Well, most of the stuff you put there, I simply don't buy into.
Not because of my need for belief this world is good,
but because that theories fail on many accounts.
I know we will never agree on that, I'm long enough on this forums
to know how it goes.
And, er.. Most people back then were dead from common cold.
Yes, I do believe in antibiotics,
and no, no need for us to go there.
No "research" links, thank you.
A very close person of mine did the whole lab research with
one modern widely used antibiotic, no pharma paws were in there,
no background invested money, just pure let's test this shit science.
I saw the results, and I knew everything about the research
from beggining to the end.



You haven't managed to surprise me once in this whole little conversation.
:p I assume very well. Be free to throw in something unexpected.

And by the way, human cries out very soon when he is in pain.
Animal almost never does.
We don't know how many pain we make our pets
go through by prolonging their lives with our
let's make 'em healthy ideas.



Just be sure your whole life doesn't pass in worrying about that.
That would be a pitty.



Not religious? :rolleyes:
You don't get me do you? :D

Hey ScottishRyan! ;)
I don't see why you keep wondering about why I post on this thread.
I'm here because I'm not into Royal wedding and stuff. :p
I'm not on some kinda secret mission, just exploring
the world of people that are allegedly thinking "outside the box".
I'm interested is it true, and how atmosphere changes through
the years, what's new and is anything seriously new.

Don't have anything against you folks.
You should see me on anti - meat eating threads. :p

I just thought this thread can use something else
besides endless recipes and thank you, you are so great
tapping on the shoulder. :D

You may believe people were not genetically stronger pre WW2/antibiotics/formula feeding - but youre wrong.

Antibiotics are totally unnecessary as we have something called an immune system. People were ill years ago due to rotten food and poor sanitation - and today we have good food and good sanitation - but have had our immune system destroyed. Different in Easten Euro countries, tend to have stronger genetics, but not in the UK or USA.


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1426/capture1ax.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/capture1ax.png/)

domathy
28-07-2011, 07:47 PM
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akana
28-07-2011, 07:52 PM
@lightgiver We don't need any derailing in this thread. We like posting our recipes. Thank you.

domathy
28-07-2011, 08:01 PM
@lightgiver We don't need any derailing in this thread. We like posting our recipes. Thank you.

Very concise :)

scottishryan
28-07-2011, 08:13 PM
I just thought this thread can use something else
besides endless recipes and thank you, you are so great
tapping on the shoulder. :D

Discussions + Recipes + Experiences + Assistance from those in the know = Alkalizing your body (Topic Title)

Add a little bit of manners and common curtsey (Thanks you and pat on back et al)

and we have baked a lovely topic of assistance....Simples ;)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/30/article-1239253-07A3F235000005DC-145_468x342.jpg

:p:p:p

domathy
28-07-2011, 08:14 PM
Discussions + Recipes + Experiences + Assistance from those in the know = Alkalizing your body (Topic Title)

Add a little bit of manners and common curtsey (Thanks you and pat on bak et al)

and we have baked a lovely topic of assistance....Simples ;)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/30/article-1239253-07A3F235000005DC-145_468x342.jpg

:p:p:p

And a pat on the back for you good sir :)

scottishryan
28-07-2011, 08:15 PM
And a pat on the back for you good sir :)

Thank You :D

domathy
28-07-2011, 08:20 PM
Thank You :D

Your'e welcome.....and well done :p

scottishryan
28-07-2011, 08:27 PM
Your'e welcome.....and well done :p

You are great :D Here is a tap on the shoulder for you :p

Sorry lighthouse, I could not resist :D:p All in good fun :)

lulushka8
28-07-2011, 08:29 PM
Discussions + Recipes + Experiences + Assistance from those in the know = Alkalizing your body (Topic Title)

Add a little bit of manners and common curtsey (Thanks you and pat on back et al)

and we have baked a lovely topic of assistance....Simples ;)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/30/article-1239253-07A3F235000005DC-145_468x342.jpg

:p:p:p

hmm, i don't know. i like all the above but quite like a bit of devil's advocate too. just saying it's nice to get both sides, especially when it comes to matters of health. this is new for me (eating more fats) so i welcome other people opinions/experiences. maybe (probably) i'm mad but i want to hear more of that, provided it's based on facts and put across in a nice way.

domathy
28-07-2011, 08:43 PM
You are great :D Here is a tap on the shoulder for you :p

Sorry lighthouse, I could not resist :D:p All in good fun :)

I love you man :)

hmm, i don't know. i like all the above but quite like a bit of devil's advocate too. just saying it's nice to get both sides, especially when it comes to matters of health. this is new for me (eating more fats) so i welcome other people opinions/experiences. maybe (probably) i'm mad but i want to hear more of that, provided it's based on facts and put across in a nice way.


Mutiny!!!!! :mad:

There is no other way. Its my way or the highway madam. THIS IS THE ALKALIZING THREAD. NOT THE 'GET A BALANCED ROUNDED PERSPECTIVE AND APPROACH DIETARY REFORM IN A HEALTH WAY THREAD'

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/473/unledhwe.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/718/unledhwe.png/)

lulushka8
28-07-2011, 08:50 PM
Mutiny!!!!! :mad:

There is no other way. Its my way or the highway madam. THIS IS THE ALKALIZING THREAD. NOT THE 'GET A BALANCED ROUNDED PERSPECTIVE AND APPROACH DIETARY REFORM IN A HEALTH WAY THREAD'

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/473/unledhwe.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/718/unledhwe.png/)

er, mademoiselle please.

scottishryan
28-07-2011, 09:02 PM
Hahahahahahaaa :D

As said, everyone has great posts and its great to see where everyone is at.. I truly learn from everyone, even people I do not initially agree with. I learn from you all.

I have come so far from what I believed to be healthy eating to my today stance thanks to you all!! Its all making more and more sense!

I am still not eating animals though mwahahahahahaha :p

lighthouse
29-07-2011, 10:52 AM
@lightgiver We don't need any derailing in this thread. We like posting our recipes. Thank you.

^this +


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^that

Yes, it's that obvious. :D

domathy
29-07-2011, 01:01 PM
^this +



^that

Yes, it's that obvious. :D

How come you still think big pharma/antibiotics are a good thing then? ;/

leon11
30-07-2011, 01:25 AM
Thanks for the great thread, Domathy.

Re. Zeolite: I took Liquid Zeolite and could feel the detox effects very clearly. At times I decided to eat from plastic spoons as it made me very adverse to metals.


I keep thinking about this....knowing the way that the 'prison' has been set up, im sure most of the metals we come into contact with affect us negatively. Romans gave soldiers lead pipes right which they knew would make them insane? This is how they roll!

Apparently cutlery used to mainly be made from silver, which has positive traits...but now it is made using stainless steel (SS! :eek:) or copper and nickel.
I dont know anything bout chemistry or enough about spirituality / energy to comment further though!

How did your zeolite detox go btw Bill (if youre still here)? I have zeolite but tend not to use it atm as it dehydrates you (and im trying to focus on hydrating & getting loads of greens and water down me)

I often don't make time for MMS too Domathy, as it has to be spaced out from the greens etc, although I know I should.

So Ive done a few months of bicarb use and healthier living (although admitedly still sometimes half-arsed out of long habit!)...and now about a week of regular ionised-greens water.....and I must say my problems and issues definitely seem to be subsiding.
Before I started I had bad pains in my arm (acid-filled weak spot I think), heart pains, skin issues, regular muscle fatigue and general tiredness,.....etc etc...most of the symptoms of acidosis in fact....and now things are better.

Especially since the greens, I feel sharper...less tired.....Ive done the same amount of work but my arm hurts much less... and I havent felt heart pains for weeks.
Skin issues and some problems are still apparent... but this is early days for me, and I am yet to implement all the changes or put much of my new knowledge to good use. Im getting there though, and its good to see some improvements.

Hope you're all keeping well

godner
30-07-2011, 04:27 AM
The alkalising your body with bicarb sounds interesting, I'm 50/50 at the mo but I wish I'd known about it a few years back when my Old Man was dying of The Big C/chemo. At that stage you'll try anything.

My own health motto is similar to that of what Bernard Manning used to say, "eat what you like, drink what you like, and smoke when you like", he didn't have a bad innings did he?

My normal position is that if the government say that something is good for you, then it generally isn't.
Must say that this policy has worked all right so far for me. :)

akana
30-07-2011, 04:52 AM
The alkalising your body with bicarb sounds interesting, I'm 50/50 at the mo but I wish I'd known about it a few years back when my Old Man was dying of The Big C/chemo. At that stage you'll try anything.

My own health motto is similar to that of what Bernard Manning used to say, "eat what you like, drink what you like, and smoke when you like", he didn't have a bad innings did he?

My normal position is that if the government say that something is good for you, then it generally isn't.
Must say that this policy has worked all right so far for me. :)

Make sure to add lime to your bicarb water.

domathy
30-07-2011, 11:05 AM
er, mademoiselle please.

I like how youre okay with the alkaline dictatorship.....as long as i address you properly :D

domathy
30-07-2011, 11:27 AM
I keep thinking about this....knowing the way that the 'prison' has been set up, im sure most of the metals we come into contact with affect us negatively. Romans gave soldiers lead pipes right which they knew would make them insane? This is how they roll!

Apparently cutlery used to mainly be made from silver, which has positive traits...but now it is made using stainless steel (SS! :eek:) or copper and nickel.
I dont know anything bout chemistry or enough about spirituality / energy to comment further though!

How did your zeolite detox go btw Bill (if youre still here)? I have zeolite but tend not to use it atm as it dehydrates you (and im trying to focus on hydrating & getting loads of greens and water down me)

I often don't make time for MMS too Domathy, as it has to be spaced out from the greens etc, although I know I should.

So Ive done a few months of bicarb use and healthier living (although admitedly still sometimes half-arsed out of long habit!)...and now about a week of regular ionised-greens water.....and I must say my problems and issues definitely seem to be subsiding.
Before I started I had bad pains in my arm (acid-filled weak spot I think), heart pains, skin issues, regular muscle fatigue and general tiredness,.....etc etc...most of the symptoms of acidosis in fact....and now things are better.

Especially since the greens, I feel sharper...less tired.....Ive done the same amount of work but my arm hurts much less... and I havent felt heart pains for weeks.
Skin issues and some problems are still apparent... but this is early days for me, and I am yet to implement all the changes or put much of my new knowledge to good use. Im getting there though, and its good to see some improvements.

Hope you're all keeping well

Yep, we're all metal'd up to the eyeballs. But chlorophyll and MMS work well.
Now your on the greens Ill help with a schedule. did you energizeforlife cookbook arrive? How does it look?!

You will feel sharper on the greens. Here is the electron field around a tub of greens with the lid off: (hence why not to open tub near cell phones etc)

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8193/picture4gw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/picture4gw.jpg/)
:D

and pH drops:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4802/picture1ph.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/picture1ph.jpg/)

Good that its working on your arm. Its probably RSI from tatooing people all day long, and acids build up causing pain. If you get rid of acid the body can heal.

One of my first case studies was a guy who broke both legs. He was in the RAF and his 1st chute failed then reserve parachute opened just before hitting the ground and slowed him down just enough for him to survive. For over 20 years was on 2 walking sticks all day long. After 3 months on greens was on one stick only for 50% of the time and no walking sticks the rest of the time ie walking with no walking sticks. His legs had broken in many places and acid from the initial trauma and then hospital food created deposits. So even 20 years on, by removing the deposits, the bones were able to heal!

Anyway, good work :)

The alkalising your body with bicarb sounds interesting, I'm 50/50 at the mo but I wish I'd known about it a few years back when my Old Man was dying of The Big C/chemo. At that stage you'll try anything.

My own health motto is similar to that of what Bernard Manning used to say, "eat what you like, drink what you like, and smoke when you like", he didn't have a bad innings did he?

My normal position is that if the government say that something is good for you, then it generally isn't.
Must say that this policy has worked all right so far for me. :)

Except even the govt say veg is good and drugs are bad :)

domathy
30-07-2011, 01:31 PM
Here's a good site to take a note of. Its run by some people I know who are building an alklaizing raw food retreat in france. The recepie section will be a good resource and there will be lots of good info on the site when its finished:

http://www.vitalitycircle.com/

leon11
30-07-2011, 01:51 PM
Yep, we're all metal'd up to the eyeballs. But chlorophyll and MMS work well.
Now your on the greens Ill help with a schedule. did you energizeforlife cookbook arrive? How does it look?!

I dont believe ya, somethin tells me you're not quite so metal'd up dom :p :)
the cookbook did arrive and it seems great, yeh. Its what I wanted as it is travel-size and concise - Im moving around a lot and get bogged down with trawling through web pages...Im sure these screens are bad for us (especially with mercury fillings?). But yeh Id recommend it if anyone has spare cash, although there are a lot of perfectly good free recipes posted here aye thanks to akana.

You will feel sharper on the greens. Here is the electron field around a tub of greens with the lid off: (hence why not to open tub near cell phones etc)

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8193/picture4gw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/picture4gw.jpg/)
:D

yeh im familiar ;) been puttin all that info together this week although there is a lot to get through! Its really helping cement things in my head though.
that photography is amazing, Im gonna look up how they do it! Is it like the aura photos they take of people?

Good that its working on your arm. Its probably RSI from tatooing people all day long, and acids build up causing pain. If you get rid of acid the body can heal.

its unusual, as if it was RSI I would've thought Id get pains in my wrist...but the pains are in a place that doesn't move much (middle of my upper arm). I think its just general lack of nutrition and holding my arms up all day but yeh, Im not clued up at all with these things.

One of my first case studies was a guy who broke both legs. He was in the RAF and his 1st chute failed then reserve parachute opened just before hitting the ground and slowed him down just enough for him to survive. For over 20 years was on 2 walking sticks all day long. After 3 months on greens was on one stick only for 50% of the time and no walking sticks the rest of the time ie walking with no walking sticks. His legs had broken in many places and acid from the initial trauma and then hospital food created deposits. So even 20 years on, by removing the deposits, the bones were able to heal!

interesting....sounds like fate that he survived! and there's hope for us all heheh

btw fella...could you theoretically be semi-healthy by just living on greens-water, sunshine and meditation?! or should this only be a more temporary detox?!
as soon as I recieved those greens, I could feel their vibes!...I know they will do me good :)
om

Anyway, good work :)

Except even the govt say veg is good and drugs are bad :)
yeh well they irradiate most of the veg and ganja definitely has spiritual benefits imo :p :D
NO benefits of organic food according to the govern-mente!
ah well

domathy
30-07-2011, 02:31 PM
Except even the govt say veg is good and drugs are bad :)
yeh well they irradiate most of the veg and ganja definitely has spiritual benefits imo :p :D
NO benefits of organic food according to the govern-mente!
ah well

haha, fair point. It is a very medicinal plant too. But the govt controlled drug supply chain is pretty toxic with almost no pharmaceutical grade stuff anymore.

and yes, the 'control-mind' people say pesticides are good for you and organic veg has no more vitamins than normal.

Anyway, i might need to put you in charge of the thread soon as have busy-ness to be doing soon - or maybe i just put a 'gone fishing' sign up :)

I look forward to your distilled version of the thread.

lighthouse
30-07-2011, 02:35 PM
How come you still think big pharma/antibiotics are a good thing then? ;/

Antibiotics work, that's why.
Big pharma? It grew too big,
like almost every industry in the western world today.
And people are obviously too lazy to think and educate themselves
to distinguish the unnecessary from medicine.
I could go again on the matter of extremes,
but you didn't seem to get it the first time,
so I won't bother this lovely uniformed thread with that again. :p


NO benefits of organic food according to the govern-mente!
ah well

Organic food industry will very soon be making as much money
as the McDonalds.
Field of organic soy next to the field of GMO one..
No interaction between plants, no, not a bit. :D
Frankly, when I check out the prices of organic food in very
fancy and awaken shops, I feel like a total sheep.
Oh, they are selling.. Yes they do. :D
And how people are full of trust when they give a fortune
for groceries that taste even more terrible,
but the brain registered the bio label and convinced
itself that's enough and suddenly everyone are feeling the difference...

I didn't drink milk for a week, my body hasn't said that it needs it.
Can I get a tap? :p :cool:

leon11
30-07-2011, 05:27 PM
haha, fair point. It is a very medicinal plant too. But the govt controlled drug supply chain is pretty toxic with almost no pharmaceutical grade stuff anymore.

and yes, the 'control-mind' people say pesticides are good for you and organic veg has no more vitamins than normal.

Anyway, i might need to put you in charge of the thread soon as have busy-ness to be doing soon - or maybe i just put a 'gone fishing' sign up :)

I look forward to your distilled version of the thread.

me?! no dude im not ready! heheh I think lulushka, akana and ryan will do a better job ;)

maybe the sign could read 'Gone pHishing' :D ah I crack myself up sometimes :cool:

dont leave us for long!?!

domathy
30-07-2011, 06:20 PM
me?! no dude im not ready! heheh I think lulushka, akana and ryan will do a better job ;)

maybe the sign could read 'Gone pHishing' :D ah I crack myself up sometimes :cool:

dont leave us for long!?!

But you have an avocado as your avatar...I thought you were ready :p

Yeah, thats a good one :D

(Alkaline dictator colonel GaddapHy has gone pHishing.....may all trolls pHuck off)

But yes, i get caught up in pointless mass-debating ;) on this forum, so need a break and also go do some real work. But will drop by to answer questions/give support once a day or every few days at least. Still on email tho
and awaiting your thread re-cap :cool:

domathy
30-07-2011, 06:27 PM
Antibiotics work, that's why. Big pharma? It grew too big, like almost every industry in the western world today. And people are obviously too lazy to think and educate themselves to distinguish the unnecessary from medicine. I could go again on the matter of extremes, but you didn't seem to get it the first time, so I won't bother this lovely uniformed thread with that again. :p

"THe germ is nothing, the terrain is everything" - thats my POV and its a strong conviction. Im open to other options, but im not going to change my mind because of your casual comments. So, may i suggest we agree to disagree?
ALso, as i say, im not going to be monitoring the thread so much and will just reply to people asking for help or who have a question. So dont take offence if i dont personally reply. But please format your comments as above as its disorientating for my dyslexic brain when sentences are broken up like you normally so.

Organic food industry will very soon be making as much money as the McDonalds. Field of organic soy next to the field of GMO one.. No interaction between plants, no, not a bit. :D Frankly, when I check out the prices of organic food in very fancy and awaken shops, I feel like a total sheep.
Oh, they are selling.. Yes they do. :D And how people are full of trust when they give a fortune for groceries that taste even more terrible, but the brain registered the bio label and convinced itself that's enough and suddenly everyone are feeling the difference...

I didn't drink milk for a week, my body hasn't said that it needs it.
Can I get a tap? :p :cool:

Anyway, well all be happy to get any food we can if the elite succeed with global control - but im bored of debating pros/cons. Some will resonate with this info - and nothing anyone says will stop that. For me it was the missing link, so im sharing it with others. People can judge and say im exploiting sick people (as i do this for a living) but i do it to help people. I could make a much better living from selling cars or something.

leon11
30-07-2011, 10:00 PM
Here's a good site to take a note of. Its run by some people I know who are building an alklaizing raw food retreat in france. The recepie section will be a good resource and there will be lots of good info on the site when its finished:

http://www.vitalitycircle.com/

the website looks like it will be good

Ive been thinking you should set up your own retreat sometime....then can fully work on that vocation of yours? And grow some avacados!
maybe the alkalising army will build it for ya heheh.

its a shame certain people (or maybe theyre just programs?!) seem to have been getting you down a bit
we shall hold the fort while youre away though :) thanks for getting us all started!

pHuck off :D heheh oj

i might print some t shirts with 'pH uk' on, yehh

akana
30-07-2011, 11:38 PM
I'm already eating no fruit, but for those fruitarians out there:

Eating Too Much Fruit Can Be Bad For Your Health
by Dr. Ben Kim

Many of us have come to believe that eating healthier means eating lots of fruits and vegetables. While fruits and vegetables are much better for you than refined foods like cookies and chips, my experiences and research have led me to believe that too much fruit can be harmful to your health.

A lot of the fruit that is grown today is much higher in sugar than they would be in a natural environment. Have you ever tasted a wild blueberry? How about a wild apple? On their own, they are delicious, but you may be surprised to discover that they aren't nearly as sweet as modern day varieties. Over thousands of years, humans have been able to make fruits larger and sweeter than their wild predecessors through hybridization.

But sugar from fruit is natural, so you should be able to eat as much as you want, right? This question is best asked of fruitarians - people who eat nothing but raw fruits. It is not uncommon for a strict fruitarian to eat five bananas and five dates for breakfast, one large canteloupe for lunch, and five large peaches for dinner.

Some fruitarians take a more balanced approach and eat lots of less sweet, seed-bearing fruits like tomatoes and zuchinni. They also eat plenty of greens like romaine lettuce.

Regardless of which approach is taken, I have not met a single strict fruitarian of more than two years who didn't have significant health challenges. The most common challenges are dental decay, osteoporosis, wasting of muscle tissue, inability to maintain a healthy weight, chronic fatigue, skin problems, thinning hair, weakening nails, and excessive irritability.

Some of these problems are the result of nutritional deficiencies. The most common deficiencies that I know of in this population are vitamins B12, A*, D, zinc, and certain essential fatty acids.

Another problem with a high fruit diet is that it can lead to problems involving the hormones that regulate your blood sugar; insulin, glucagon, and growth hormone. A chronic imbalance of these hormones is a sure way to develop cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

The encouraging news is that when you eat fruits in moderation, they can contribute to excellent overall health and fitness.

(sic)

Avocado - An excellent source of raw fat, which is essential for healing and maintenance of health. Avocados are also an excellent source of fiber, vitamins, and minerals. The fatty acids found in avocados provide excellent fuel for energy. A good avocado has a rich, creamy texture and a rich green color towards the outer part of its flesh.

If you want to eat super sweet fruits like bananas, grapes, and ripe persimmons, you may want to eat them with some dark green lettuce, celery sticks, and avocado, as the mineral density in these green foods will help to dampen the unhealthy effect that super sweet fruits have on your insulin levels.

I recommend staying away from fruit juices most of the time, as their concentrated sugars contribute to health problems related to too much insulin production.

* While it is true that vitamin A can be made from beta carotene, which is found in lots of fruits and vegetables, many people are unable to make enough vitamin A for their daily needs from beta carotene alone. Effective conversion of beta carotene to vitamin A depends on a number of factors, like a healthy gall bladder, sufficient dietary fat, and a healthy thyroid gland. Sufficient intake and absorption of vitamin A is essential to a number of processes, including building and maintaining healthy mucosal linings throughout your body, enhancing your immune system, and supporting your vision.
http://drbenkim.com/articles-fruit.html

akana
31-07-2011, 06:42 AM
Enemies of intestinal bacteria


Drugs- especially antibiotics, as one dose can eliminate all friendly bacteria in your intestines..

Alcohol- it destroys enzymes and lacto bacteria, not to mention actual cells (particularly brain cells).

Coffee- each cup can destroy 20% of the friendly bacteria in your gut..

Meat- it feeds the bacillus coli (harmful bacteria) which in turn destroy the good bacteria..

Bread- especially white flour or any wheat bread that was baked in an oven..

Sugar- that includes breakfast cereals, chocolate, cakes, pies, cookies, ice cream, soda pop, etc..

Fried foods- e.g. potato chips, fries, and anything fried in oil.

sicknote
31-07-2011, 06:56 AM
Do any of you guys recommend drinking alkaline water?.

If so, which product would you recommend?.

domathy
31-07-2011, 04:09 PM
the website looks like it will be good

Ive been thinking you should set up your own retreat sometime....then can fully work on that vocation of yours? And grow some avacados!
maybe the alkalising army will build it for ya heheh.

its a shame certain people (or maybe theyre just programs?!) seem to have been getting you down a bit
we shall hold the fort while youre away though :) thanks for getting us all started!

pHuck off :D heheh oj

i might print some t shirts with 'pH uk' on, yehh

Sounds like a plan :D Thats always been my dream. Would need to pay the bills but also do free retreats for DIF firends etc...we could all sing coom by ya round the fire :p Well, dont suppose i could charge if ya'll build the place!

Im okay now, but thanks :) A combo of Akanas thread http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=177948
plus a pint of almond milk and a couple of Jack Johnson tracks :confused: (and I never listen to JJ but did seem the help) The thing with this job is you accept there are lots of morons around and thats fine, but then you get people who you credit with more intelligence but find out they are secretly sucking the evil phalice of big pharma and the medical establishment. What i mean is, i get annoyed when people attack my motives and Dr Youngs (snake oil blah blah) - and, I want to ignore the posts but then other readers might believe the lies and so i feel obliged to reply. Also, people who judge without first gathering facts. Anyway, im putting together a generic document to counter all the usual objections and cliches, so i can just copy and paste to save my time and energy so i can focus on the people who resonate with the pH stuff and want to make it work for themselves. That said, if i ever do a bunk, i would be comfortable to let you, ryan and especially Akana (she's done her homework) take the reins:D

I'll have on of them T-shirts though please :p

akana
31-07-2011, 06:37 PM
Nutrition is debatable, but yah can't argue with common sense ! No one wants to be acidic. Those who cannot agree with that, are probably not raw vegans to begin with. Meat eaters aren't gonna change over night (altho I changed over night! ), so we just gotta keep posting valid info for them, and hopefully one day it will sink.

domathy
31-07-2011, 06:57 PM
Nutrition is debatable, but yah can't argue with common sense ! No one wants to be acidic. Those who cannot agree with that, are probably not raw vegans to begin with. Meat eaters aren't gonna change over night (altho I changed over night! ), so we just gotta keep posting valid info for them, and hopefully one day it will sink.

I agree, and i said on other threads that im curious about the effects of raw dairy on overall health. And i agree with Gabriel Cousens that some people, energetically at least, may need meat at least while they adjust themselves to align with live plant foods. I dont agree with everything Dr Young says but the one universal thing required by people is pH balance - at least until the body and blood are healed. I couldnt sustain the diet and recepies in dr youngs books in the long run - but its a good stepping stone. Once youre free of yeast youll be receiving more accurate signals from the body and can feel your way to a diet thats right for the individual. There is no one diet for every person in the long run. The alkaline thing is a stepping stone - but some people stick with it as it feels right.

morgen_hurst
31-07-2011, 07:24 PM
Lemons!!!!! Fantastic, fresh lemon juice is warm water. Even better, plant your own lemon tree.

My secret formula. Green Tea, Hot water, grated garlic clove, grated ginger, finely chopped parsley, juice of one lemon.

could you give some quantity's to the grated stuff plz :) or is it "just to taste"

And Domathy, thanks for a great post.

al209
31-07-2011, 08:44 PM
I'm already eating no fruit, but for those fruitarians out there:

Eating Too Much Fruit Can Be Bad For Your Health
by Dr. Ben Kim

http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/05/31/wild-and-ancient-fruit/

domathy
31-07-2011, 08:52 PM
http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/05/31/wild-and-ancient-fruit/

That looks like a good article, Ill read that tomorrow. Ive never even heard of most of those fruits. I have always said i'd love to live a high fruit diet in a warm climate - but its all seedless stuff in supermarkets picked before its ripe and with loads more sugar.

stillwakingup
31-07-2011, 09:07 PM
Hey Dom,

Where in France do you friends have their retreat? cant see much detail in their website.Sounds like a nice spot to stop off in!!

thx

akana
31-07-2011, 09:31 PM
Why can't people just eat vegetables to get their vitamin/mineral content? Why do some say that fruit must be incorporated into the diet? I like not eating fruit.

domathy
31-07-2011, 09:37 PM
Hey Dom,

Where in France do you friends have their retreat? cant see much detail in their website.Sounds like a nice spot to stop off in!!

thx

South of France, i can get details about whre they have set up if you want?

Why can't people just eat vegetables to get their vitamin/mineral content? Why do some say that fruit must be incorporated into the diet? I like not eating fruit.

I like the concept of fruit just as its so light to digest. I used to be a bit of a junkie for fasting and the light feeling associated with it, and fruit would have a similar effect if it were in its natural state and in season. Plus the idea you can just pick off a tree is appealing. But, i love veggies and that works well for me - but the concept of having fruit trees does seem appealing.

The argument that we need fruit for nutrients doesnt apply though as we can get everything from veggies without all the sugar.

akana
31-07-2011, 09:39 PM
Exactly, veggies reap the same benefits, and also I think that some people have an addiction or emotional attachment to fruit?

domathy
31-07-2011, 09:46 PM
Exactly, veggies reap the same benefits, and also I think that some people have an addiction or emotional attachment to fruit?

WHeatgrass is king of veg and blows fruit out of the water. Fruit is more stimulating due to the sugar - but i was imagining a scenario of eating oldskool fruit which didnt taste sweet, but i dont know what fruit used to taste like. But yes, people are emotionally attached to fruit.

People conveniently get excited about the nutrients in fruit, but not so excited about the equal or better nutrient properties in veg (as its not so exciting)

akana
31-07-2011, 09:50 PM
WHeatgrass is king of veg and blows fruit out of the water. Fruit is more stimulating due to the sugar - but i was imagining a scenario of eating oldskool fruit which didnt taste sweet, but i dont know what fruit used to taste like. But yes, people are emotionally attached to fruit.

People conveniently get excited about the nutrients in fruit, but not so excited about the equal or better nutrient properties in veg (as its not so exciting)

Sugar addiction is a big problem

domathy
31-07-2011, 09:52 PM
Sugar addiction is a big problem

How long have you been clean? I was 100% green/raw/zero sugar or starch for 2+ yrs but have hard sugars again now, just boredom really.

domathy
31-07-2011, 09:54 PM
Plus cold climate :(
Im half californian by blood so feel a craving for warmth - sungazing has really helped though.

akana
31-07-2011, 10:10 PM
How long have you been clean? I was 100% green/raw/zero sugar or starch for 2+ yrs but have hard sugars again now, just boredom really.

Uh, as soon as I read your thread. I read it, and I thought to myself, 'now that's logical' (when talking about your scribd document). And I really appreciated your 'cat poop' analogy, you know which one. How long has it been, about 3 weeks now? Maybe a month.

Once I see something that makes sense to me, I make the necessary dietary requirements change, even it's something 'so extreme', like cutting out simply fruit and sugar :D

How did you feel 100% green/raw/zero sugar after 2 years? What are you eating now?

akana
31-07-2011, 10:12 PM
Plus cold climate :(
Im half californian by blood so feel a craving for warmth - sungazing has really helped though.

Yeah I get that, I am lucky to live in a sub-tropical climate, in the winter time I sip on lots of hot green tea to keep me warm! Also taking cayenne pepper capsules, cuz they're spicey enough to raise your temperature.

akana
31-07-2011, 10:15 PM
Oh but I was raw vegan for a long time before, but also ate lots of fruit and breads, grains, dried fruits... you know, the bad stuff

stillwakingup
31-07-2011, 11:28 PM
Where in France do you friends have their retreat? cant see much detail in their website.Sounds like a nice spot to stop off in!!

thx
South of France, i can get details about whre they have set up if you want?

Thanks would apreciate it.Could end up living there myself ( funds allowing)
Think it will take more than sungazing here to satisy me!!!!:D

akana
01-08-2011, 01:15 AM
Why am I so dizzy? Someone please help. I get dizzy a lot, and this is especially after I stand up.

akana
01-08-2011, 01:29 AM
mmm, i just made the best vegetable smoothie:

1 large tomato (this will give most of the flavor)
1/2 hass avocado
1 cup coconut milk (unsweetened)
1 small cucumber (english cucumber are too big, i had used a different sort)
1 green bell pepper


blend until smooth --- tastes amazing, my mouth is watering for another one

domathy
01-08-2011, 10:59 AM
Uh, as soon as I read your thread. I read it, and I thought to myself, 'now that's logical' (when talking about your scribd document). And I really appreciated your 'cat poop' analogy, you know which one. How long has it been, about 3 weeks now? Maybe a month.

I dont remember the cat poop thing?

Once I see something that makes sense to me, I make the necessary dietary requirements change, even it's something 'so extreme', like cutting out simply fruit and sugar :D

I know, Im the same when i really get motivated by something. I think we've known you more than a month tho, Ill go back and check

How did you feel 100% green/raw/zero sugar after 2 years? What are you eating now?

Well, amazing at times. Especially when jucie fasting on green juicing - I really felt high. But, i found it really hard being in that state then having to go and work in the real world and I thing i let people drag me down. Also, sometimes i was high, a bit like drugs, but more spaced out and i wasnt grounded. Anyway, Im a lots stronger now and im ready to pick myself out there and really commit, and stay grounded too. I think i have energetic/emotional stuff to clear and resolve before i get back on the wagon. I dont like yoyo'ing so though best to accept i wasnt ready than to beat myself up. Anyway, ive come a long way with my health and feel proud regardless, but would love to go 100% pure again.

Yeah I get that, I am lucky to live in a sub-tropical climate, in the winter time I sip on lots of hot green tea to keep me warm! Also taking cayenne pepper capsules, cuz they're spicey enough to raise your temperature.

Yeah, cayenne works, though i dont get on well with spices as find them too stimulating.

Oh but I was raw vegan for a long time before, but also ate lots of fruit and breads, grains, dried fruits... you know, the bad stuff

Where in France do you friends have their retreat? cant see much detail in their website.Sounds like a nice spot to stop off in!!

thx
South of France, i can get details about whre they have set up if you want?

Thanks would apreciate it.Could end up living there myself ( funds allowing)
Think it will take more than sungazing here to satisy me!!!!:D

Im the same, id love to set up in the south of france. I just need to reinstall skype then will get the location for you. But I swear, sungazing gets rid of SAD.

Why am I so dizzy? Someone please help. I get dizzy a lot, and this is especially after I stand up.

If you post, of PM me with what you eat/consume (i cant tell if you partake in illicit substances from your posts, but you hinted to a party lifestyle) i can say the main offenders and offer things to counter. Here is the cause of dizziness:

When blood is clumpy, it cant pass through capillaries single file. You have capillaries in the brain so blood doesnt reach the brain to deliver oxygen properly:

Edit: (i uploaded the wrong pic - this is from the basic microscopy course)

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/1906/capturerou.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/capturerou.png/)


Rouleau is a French word for “rolls.” The term has been derived from the appearance of the RBCs when the blood is in this condition. Rouleau occurs in direct proportion to the amount of exotoxins and mycotoxins present in the blood. These acids affect the electrostatic properties of the blood, which is coincident with a lowered charge on the cell membrane. This results in the cell’s diminished ability to repel the adjacent cells. Extreme incidences of rouleau are observed in extreme cases of hyperproteinemia, which results from the fermentation of morbid proteins. This blood picture is also indicated in the symptomatology of multiple myeloma.

A false appearance of this condition can be caused easily by expelling the blood from the pricked finger by pressurizing it. The cells may resume their normal appearance upon the slide being tapped lightly, which is generally not the case with aggregation and true rouleau. If the sample does not separate easily, take another sample, making sure to pierce the finger deeply enough to allow it to bleed freely. Soaking the hands in hot water may also help the subject to bleed more freely. Then wait for a period of time. Don’t allow the client to wring their fingers which disturbs the blood (common practice for diabetics.)


Normally the cells pass through the capillaries single file, accomplishing the transfer of oxygen and carbon dioxide. Rouleau clearly inhibits this process because of the reduction of available surface of the RBC and the stacked cell’s inability to enter the capillaries. This sticking together of the red cells is caused by emotional and/or physical stress, and can be an indication of severe disorganizing disease. The resultant loss of oxygen-carrying surface area of the RBC and the resultant inadequate circulation of blood which is associated with this condition, decrease the delivery of both oxygen and nutrients to the cells, resulting in disturbances to other cells and their morbid evolutions. Low valence indications include the symptomologies of fatigue, lethargy, and general malaise.

This condition can also be an indication of either an advanced disorganizing disease condition, or just poor digestion. (See Erythrocyte Aggregation.)

See also Protein Linkage. As this condition is a more advanced form of aggregation, additional signs may include stress on the heart, poor circulation, and cold hands and/or feet.

The blood will often show morbidly evolved microforms after having been left on the slide for several hours. This is not to be presumed to be microbial contaminations that have been inadvertently introduced onto the slide, as these forms will be seen immediately, moving freely in the serum, upon slightly crushing a sample from the same individual, thereby disturbing the RBC membrane and pleomorphic development of morbid microforms.

This is when the doctor puts you on aspirin, heparin, or cumatin and tells you not to each vegetables because of the vitamin K, which is clotting. These drugs thin the blood by breaking down the cells. Vegetables are intently full of electrons and attract protons which bind acidity. If you cut out the beef and beer then the vegetables will bind to body acidity. Your doctor is right, if you do eat more vegetables without changing your diet your blood will become thicker. If you change your diet and start adding more alkaline foods the blood will naturally become thinner. Acids are like molecular glue. Check blood viscosity and see if Dr. will start to take them off the drugs. (Remember -Microscopists NEVER advise people to come off their drugs, that is the doctor’s job.) Watch to see if the blood pressure is going up then more clumping is going on. Back off or go for the whole program. Key is increasing the fluids.

When people can’t walk up stairs their blood is not flowing. Start rebounding and getting the blood to flow, hydrate, eliminate the toxins.

Hemochromitosis or too many red blood cells are formed when the body is oxygen starved and produces more cells in order to carry oxygen. Traditional medicine will let the blood out.

The bottom line is oxygen deprivation.


Name off acidic foods…
Symptomologies….
Extreme rouleaus are indicative of stroke
Products… Marine Lipids Borage Oil, Sgs
Emotional issues are a leg on the stool of body, mind, healing. “Practicing the Power of Now” by Eckhart Toll
Chocolate creates tars in the liver.

Be sure this is a true rouleaux. The client may be dehydrated. Ask them to go and drink a glass of water and retake the blood sample.

This is a disorganizing symptomology caused by a lowered pH or acid imbalance, which varies the electrical charge of the cell membrane causing them to stick to each other. Indicates poor circulation, cholesterol LDL too high or too low, not exercising enough or low sunlight.

The negative change has been taken off the cells and the resulting positive charge causes the cells to stick together.

Thats all just copied directly from my microscopy disc, I dont have time to edit and explain properly but will help to clarify later.

mmm, i just made the best vegetable smoothie:

1 large tomato (this will give most of the flavor)
1/2 hass avocado
1 cup coconut milk (unsweetened)
1 small cucumber (english cucumber are too big, i had used a different sort)
1 green bell pepper


blend until smooth --- tastes amazing, my mouth is watering for another one

:D

lighthouse
01-08-2011, 02:38 PM
Maybe I missed it, but how do you feel about grapefruit?

The same as all other fruits or..?

I don't eat fruit, but sometimes a glass of orange/grapefruit juice
feels absolutely great.
Of course, no sugar added, like it sour as possible.

domathy
01-08-2011, 02:43 PM
Maybe I missed it, but how do you feel about grapefruit?

The same as all other fruits or..?

I don't eat fruit, but sometimes a glass of orange/grapefruit juice
feels absolutely great.
Of course, no sugar added, like it sour as possible.

Grapefruit is good as its low sugar. Orange is not as good, especially seedless oranges or ones with small non-viable seeds in as these are hybridized.
A good drink would be lemon/lime, G'fruit, and orange if you want it. Then add 50% water and some bicarb to evaporate off any acids (to save your body doing it) and also the bicarb makes it fizzy :D

lighthouse
01-08-2011, 03:06 PM
Grapefruit is good as its low sugar. Orange is not as good, especially seedless oranges or ones with small non-viable seeds in as these are hybridized.
A good drink would be lemon/lime, G'fruit, and orange if you want it. Then add 50% water and some bicarb to evaporate off any acids (to save your body doing it) and also the bicarb makes it fizzy :D

I loved my lemonade with salt, but my stomach acid was through the roof,
so I gave that up.
I guess bicarb will solve that out?
Although, I'm not a fan of something that makes me sick initially,
so I must add something to make it bearable.
For now, enjoying my grapefruit. :D

sicknote
01-08-2011, 03:53 PM
Blood becomes skin:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/289/picture3kd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/picture3kd.jpg/)



http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9818/picture2ym.jpg


She has make-up on in the 2nd pic?.

sicknote
01-08-2011, 04:21 PM
What I found interesting is that many of the world's healthiest foods which have been shown to have cancer-preventing and cancer-treating properties are acidic in nature (tomatoes fall into the 4.0-4.6 range), cranberries, plums, grapefruit, strawberries, raspberries, oranges, peaches, cherries, olives, pears, grapes etc are of a lower pH than tomatoes but you read there good for cancer & overall health :confused:.

domathy
01-08-2011, 06:39 PM
What I found interesting is that many of the world's healthiest foods which have been shown to have cancer-preventing and cancer-treating properties are acidic in nature (tomatoes fall into the 4.0-4.6 range), cranberries, plums, grapefruit, strawberries, raspberries, oranges, peaches, cherries, olives, pears, grapes etc are of a lower pH than tomatoes but you read there good for cancer & overall health :confused:.

Nutrition info always conflicts, but this approach is tried and tested so i trust it.

cranberries, plums, grapefruit, strawberries, raspberries, olives are all relativley low sugar, so not too bad.

Tomatos are alkaline when raw, here is a pH chart
http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html

Oh, and yes, I think she's wearing makeup in both pics.

scottishryan
01-08-2011, 07:02 PM
RIGHT!!!! My tooth infection has gone and I am able to concentrate again :D:D

My eating has been shockingly acidic since I became sore and in an ideal world I should have pushed harder with alkalising foods as it would have assisted me 10 fold :o

From now, I am back on the saddle though and my next meal will be back on track (tomorrow now as Iam done with foods for today)

Anywho.....

I am scanning youtube and taking notes and came across surprising information! Edgar Cayce through his sessions advocated alkalising way back when he was with us....here are some videos I am watching!!

Simone Gabbay on the Edgar Cayce diet

Simone Gabbay on the Edgar Cayce diet - Part 1 of 3 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk2rifAEZ6A&feature=related

Simone Gabbay on the Edgar Cayce diet - Part 2 of 3 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSX8mwPNHpE&feature=related

Simone Gabbay on the Edgar Cayce diet - Part 3 of 3 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuS24QhUfvA&feature=related

;)

akana
01-08-2011, 07:02 PM
Maybe I missed it, but how do you feel about grapefruit?

The same as all other fruits or..?

I don't eat fruit, but sometimes a glass of orange/grapefruit juice
feels absolutely great.
Of course, no sugar added, like it sour as possible.

I read that green bell peppers have the most VITAMIN C then of any grapefruit, or food, so i've cut the grapefruits out of my diet completely (replaced with bell peppers)

domathy
01-08-2011, 07:26 PM
RIGHT!!!! My tooth infection has gone and I am able to concentrate again :D:D

Awesome :D

My eating has been shockingly acidic since I became sore and in an ideal world I should have pushed harder with alkalising foods as it would have assisted me 10 fold :o

Hindsight is great isnt it? Sometimes its hard to see light at the end of the tunnel, especially when you have no idea how long you have to ride something out for. But maybe a bit of comfort food was required at the time. Anyways, the MMS is good stuff and clears stuff so well.
From now, I am back on the saddle though and my next meal will be back on track (tomorrow now as Iam done with foods for today)
Anywho.....

I am scanning youtube and taking notes and came across surprising information! Edgar Cayce through his sessions advocated alkalising way back when he was with us....here are some videos I am watching!!

Simone Gabbay on the Edgar Cayce diet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk2rifAEZ6A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk2rifAEZ6A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSX8mwPNHpE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSX8mwPNHpE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuS24QhUfvA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuS24QhUfvA&feature=related

;)

I remeber hearing about that, thanks for the links, I will look at those later.

I read that green bell peppers have the most calcium then of any grapefruit, or food, so i've cut them out of my diet completely

I'd heard that before, and i dont like green peppers anyway.

al209
01-08-2011, 10:33 PM
I read that green bell peppers have the most VITAMIN C then of any grapefruit, or food, so i've cut them out of my diet completelywhats wrong with vitamin c? Oh, is it because its ascorbic acid?

akana
01-08-2011, 10:35 PM
whats wrong with vitamin c? Oh, is it because its ascorbic acid?

what i meant to say was, i've cut out grapefruit, and replaced them with green peppers, as part of my 'no sugar' diet, because of its high vitamin C count, and low sugar count

al209
01-08-2011, 10:46 PM
what i meant to say was, i've cut out grapefruit, and replaced them with green peppers, as part of my 'no sugar' diet, because of its high vitamin C count, and low sugar count oh. i see.

akana
01-08-2011, 11:13 PM
Oh, and the cat poop analogy you, Domathy, mentioned went something like this:

That's how the supplement companies get you - such as in the case of raw cacao nibs - that it's full of anti-oxidants, so you should buy it, overlooking the fact that it has theobromine, a highly acidic chemical that will in turn, fuel more yeast overgrowth in the body.

Kinda like - cat poop: cats have poor digestion systems, so there's a lot of vitamins in their poop. But just because something has nutrition in it, doesn't mean it's good to eat.

domathy
02-08-2011, 03:25 PM
Oh, and the cat poop analogy you, Domathy, mentioned went something like this:

Oh yeah and i think i was referring to birds too. How theres lots of B-vits in bird poo.

domathy
02-08-2011, 04:43 PM
Here is a link to Robert Young's blog, with archives going back to 2006:

http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2012-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=50

akana
02-08-2011, 04:49 PM
Oh yeah and i think i was referring to birds too. How theres lots of B-vits in bird poo.


oooh, my bad :D

sorry for confuze.

and many thanks for the blog !

domathy
02-08-2011, 06:09 PM
oooh, my bad :D

sorry for confuze.

and many thanks for the blog !

No,no! thats very good advice to not eat cat poo.

andresmunizaga
02-08-2011, 07:07 PM
I am new in the forum I see this subject and you don´t talk about alkaline ionized water I think is the best way of alkaline your body. Also DON´T drink soda specially coke, "sports drinks" like gatorade, "energy drinks" like Red Bull, these beverages are very ACIDIC please avoid this.
Have an happy alkaline day!!!!!! :)

domathy
02-08-2011, 07:16 PM
I am new in the forum I see this subject and you don´t talk about alkaline ionized water I think is the best way of alkaline your body. Also DON´T drink soda specially coke, "sports drinks" like gatorade, "energy drinks" like Red Bull, these beverages are very ACIDIC please avoid this.
Have an happy alkaline day!!!!!! :)

Welcome to the forum :)

This thread is all about alkaline water!

Which alkaline machine do you use? I have a Jupiter Microlite and the water is amazing :)

andresmunizaga
03-08-2011, 02:06 AM
Well for your surprise I´m from Guayaquil-Ecuador this beautiful city in South America.

My ionizer is a Venus is the best in the market.

I´m glad you are talking about this is very important for the health. :)

domathy
03-08-2011, 07:14 PM
Well for your surprise I´m from Guayaquil-Ecuador this beautiful city in South America.

My ionizer is a Venus is the best in the market.

I´m glad you are talking about this is very important for the health. :)

Thats a great machine....thought i think the new chanson is now the best out there :D

happy1
03-08-2011, 08:49 PM
Domathy,

I understand your passion for 1200 dollar alkalizing machines But don't you know that blood is naturally buffered around 7.5 on the PH scale? and did you know that your stomach produces Hydrochloric acid. That is like a PH of 1.5.

scottishryan
03-08-2011, 08:56 PM
Domathy,

I understand your passion for 1200 dollar alkalizing machines But don't you know that blood is naturally buffered around 7.5 on the PH scale? and did you know that your stomach produces Hydrochloric acid. That is like a PH of 1.5.

Does Domathy have a passion for $1200 machines? And you do too as you understand it? hmmmmm

Welcome to the site and I am glad you have dived in here on your early posting count to take part, the more the merrier in my view!

Looking forward to you're views, suggestions and getting to know what you suggests to further the topic friend :)

carlperkins
03-08-2011, 09:09 PM
Talking of expensive equipment, I want one of these:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oNpIwuKzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Ain't it a beauty? Stainless steel, does carrots too.
Does anyone know of a uk supplier?

domathy
04-08-2011, 09:28 AM
Domathy,

I understand your passion for 1200 dollar alkalizing machines But don't you know that blood is naturally buffered around 7.5 on the PH scale? and did you know that your stomach produces Hydrochloric acid. That is like a PH of 1.5.

The pH of the blood is 7.356. We are not trying to alklaizie the blood, but rather assist the body in maintaining the natural pH. Most people have too much acid in the body and this threatens the delicate pH of the blood and the body must sacrifice alkaline minerals to buffer acids and stop them spilling over into the blood and this wastes energy.

The pH of the stomach is misunderstood, as I explanin here: http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=169478

Welcome to the thread.

domathy
04-08-2011, 09:29 AM
Talking of expensive equipment, I want one of these:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oNpIwuKzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Ain't it a beauty? Stainless steel, does carrots too.
Does anyone know of a uk supplier?

I had one of those, it actually works really well for wheatgrass - Im not sure where to buy one, but ill have a quick google now.

EDIT: I found a stainless steel one for £109....but this one is only £30 :)
http://www.wholisticresearch.com/shop/home/m/Shop/id/360/page/1/

carlperkins
04-08-2011, 10:57 AM
That juicer looks interesting, but I reckon the plastic will split with carrots. Do you use an electric juicer? It seems that the best ones will be £100+.

Fell off the wagon last weekend at Womad festival, now my clearing sinus pays a heavy price.

domathy
04-08-2011, 11:11 AM
That juicer looks interesting, but I reckon the plastic will split with carrots. Do you use an electric juicer? It seems that the best ones will be £100+.

Fell off the wagon last weekend at Womad festival, now my clearing sinus pays a heavy price.

The plastic one would be great for wheatgrass only, but its worth investing in a better one if using regularly and for tough veg.

I used to be really into juicing and had an expensive electric masticating juicer (though cant remember which model) but sold it due to using an ionized powdered juice formula instead. I always struggled with the idea of using powders, but its sprouted stuff thats carefully dehydrated - and the dormant enzymes are re- activated when added to water. I spent so much of my early 20's stood behind a juicer that I got a bit bored tbh - and the powder works very well. But, when i get my own place, and hopefully grow my own veg, i will get back into juicing as there is nothing like fresh veg juice for a tasty refreshing drink. If you dont use a masticating juicer you will kill the veg as the centrifugal juicers create too much friction.

Hopefully your sinuses are back on track soon :)

glacidtek
04-08-2011, 12:04 PM
Either eat something real, or forget the idea you will put
on some real muscle mass.
Sorry, that's how it is.
With diet like that, there is nothing your body can do.

I know this alkalizing bunch will crucify me, :D,
but there aren't enough proteins for anything in what you're eating.
I made some great results at the gym, but not eating like that.
(I'm vegetarian too, by the way.)



Talking of normal, eh? :D

Thanks for the response Lighthouse...... do you care to elaborate? You seem quite critical with out offering any actual advise, so I'm intregued by what this 'eat somethin real' with 'enough protein' may be?

Nuts. seeds, sprouts, lentils, eggs, beans... what other protein sources are you suggesting???

Also what results have you achieved - what diet and what training?

Thank you, I look forward to your answers!

domathy
04-08-2011, 12:04 PM
The 'Alkalizing videos' thread:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1060094712#post1060094712

glacidtek
04-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Domathy.... I dont know if you missed my post ten or so pages back? Thigs seem to have got quite heated fast straight after.

I realy would be interested in your perspective if you have time?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060075128&postcount=790

domathy
04-08-2011, 01:09 PM
Domathy.... I dont know if you missed my post ten or so pages back? Thigs seem to have got quite heated fast straight after.

I realy would be interested in your perspective if you have time?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060075128&postcount=790

Im really sorry! I must have got distracted - I meant to come back to this.

Thanks for this thread Domathy, I have been lurking and reading for some time.

I'm intregued by the above quote - EFA's.. is that essential fatty acids?
Who is the guy? I'm intregued by his diet and results.

This guy is a case study, but not one of mine so all I have is the pictures. I remember hearing about him from Dr Young and he was taking lots of EFA'a (essential fatty acids) plus other oils like cocount and olive oils and avocados.
But, he was also taking tons of wheatgrass powders too.

Did you read the scribd article about how blood is made in the small intestine? Also about how chlorophyll has the same molecular structure as blood?
If you can get your head round that then you just need to know the right nutrients to build blood with. Muscle is made with blood - so if you build good blood with the right foods and combine that with weight training then you will gain (healthy) muscle without high protein requirement. So, you need a good source of chlorophyll and a good source of fats. But, you cant just do a couple big doses. Blood is produced all day long (2-4 million new blood cells per second) so you need to be consistent with nutrient intake. So, taking oils and greens every hour is great if you are training - so you are constantly flooding your body with the necessary nutrients for building blood. Google for 'Udo's oil' and 'Doc Broc Greens' - try energizeforlife.com

I'm strict vegetarian and been trying to increase muscle mass for the last year and a half by weight training and high protein diet... although I have added 2 stones, I have not gained anything in 6 months.

Fats and greens!! Plus, rebounding (bouncing on a mini trampolie is great for priming your muscles for exercise)

I have cut sugars completely, cut white flours, grains and potatoes - replaced by variety of veg and loads of lentils, sprouts, nuts and seeds.

Nuts and seeds are being milked (thanks to advise on another thread - thank you Lulushka) to add to porridge and drink as after training protein base for smoothies.... and the fibre from the nut waste is recycled to make bread with 1/3 nut fibre, 1/3 spelt, 1/3 wholmeal flour Soda bread.

Avoid whey and also soy perotein is mostly GM and extracted using hexane (a petrolium based solvent)

I have been spiking my water with fresh lemon and lime - and will be getting Sodium Bicarb soon, aswell as avokados galore!

I wondered what you can advise would help me gain lean musle mass - I'm weight trainin hard, but my diet cannot cope with the riggourus requierments to convert to muscle!!!

Thanks for your help.

Yep - its like youre driving your car without oil. You NEED fats to build muscle. I promise, within a very short time of supplementing with oils your body will start to fire up. The greens will blow you away too, especially when training. Less lactic acid and shorter recovery times. I work with the head chef at jamie olivers restaurant and he does all the marathons in america - and since using greens and oil his times have dramatically improved and has gained lots more lean muscle. Look at getting an L-carnatine supplement too. Make sure it is pure and with no magnesuim stearate or other ingredients if poss. I think there is a good supplier in california - so just google.

Something like this would work very well
*Drink greens and pH drops 1st thing AM to flush kidneys.
*10 mins later 2 tbs of Udo's oil
*Breakfast - Avocado, Gluten free porridge (millet, rice, quinnoa flakes) etc
*40 mins later - greens drink
*10 mins later Udos Oil
*20 mins later greens/water
*oil
*lunch
*greens
*oil
*DInner
*greens
*oil

Something like that.

If you followed a schedule like that you could report back in a few weeks with amazing results - thats a promise that I am making in public and putting my neck on the line. I can help you fine tune.

As your muscle get bigger, you will need to keep increasing your calorie intake else the body justs eats itself - so just make sure you carry a box of grain or lentil etc and plenty of avocados and dont ever let yourself get hungry as thats totally counterproductive as you eat your own muscle (talking to myself here too :mad:)


Body building with greens and fats:

pH miracle body building -Ryan Marcotte by: Dr. Young - YouTube


Also, adding some pink salt (read my article for the right salt - not talking table salt here) to water is incredible for energy for sports:

Drinking Salt Water is Good For You | Alkaline Minerals - YouTube

lighthouse
04-08-2011, 02:43 PM
Thanks for the response Lighthouse...... do you care to elaborate? You seem quite critical with out offering any actual advise, so I'm intregued by what this 'eat somethin real' with 'enough protein' may be?

Nuts. seeds, sprouts, lentils, eggs, beans... what other protein sources are you suggesting???

Also what results have you achieved - what diet and what training?

Thank you, I look forward to your answers!

If you got the expression I'm critical, well, I am. :D
Because the folks here have crucified me on the simple topic of milk.
When I train hard my body is literally obssesed with milk,
my muscles visualise tall shaker, full with 0.5 liter whey protein shake.
But you probably don't want to hear about it, don't you?
Feel free to prove otherwise. :)

I've lost 23 kilos (about 50 pounds in 3 years, and never got any of it back).
Became much more stronger,
I'm not a bodybuilder, but my figure shows I lift heavier stuff. ;)
My training is really hard, and I give 110%.
I always try to hit my limits, and maybe I few reps beyond that.

If you want to grow, you must add calories.
Serious calories. Serious carbs and fats.
2 eggs? How about 20? That should work better.
If you want to cut back, you must restrain yourself from food.
It's not nuclear science actually.

Without dairy products, I simply can't train, my body colapses,
no matter how many this or that vegetables I take in,
or this or that seeds and juices.
I just can't.
And that's just me.
Maybe you can.
If you can, I'm really glad, but most people can't.

I'm not suggesting anything for you,
you should do how you feel it's right and what your body likes.
Me, when I can't achieve something I look for other options,
if reality proves my theory is crap.

If Domathy's plan works for you, excellent! :)
I would be happy if this whole nutrition pilgrimage will make people
more happier and less judgmental to other folks who shake their whey. ;)

domathy
04-08-2011, 03:23 PM
If you got the expression I'm critical, well, I am. :D
Because the folks here have crucified me on the simple topic of milk.
When I train hard my body is literally obssesed with milk,
my muscles visualise tall shaker, full with 0.5 liter whey protein shake.
But you probably don't want to hear about it, don't you?
Feel free to prove otherwise. :)

I've lost 23 kilos (about 50 pounds in 3 years, and never got any of it back).
Became much more stronger,
I'm not a bodybuilder, but my figure shows I lift heavier stuff. ;)
My training is really hard, and I give 110%.
I always try to hit my limits, and maybe I few reps beyond that.

If you want to grow, you must add calories.
Serious calories. Serious carbs and fats.
2 eggs? How about 20? That should work better.
If you want to cut back, you must restrain yourself from food.
It's not nuclear science actually.

Without dairy products, I simply can't train, my body colapses,
no matter how many this or that vegetables I take in,
or this or that seeds and juices.
I just can't.
And that's just me.
Maybe you can.
If you can, I'm really glad, but most people can't.

I'm not suggesting anything for you,
you should do how you feel it's right and what your body likes.
Me, when I can't achieve something I look for other options,
if reality proves my theory is crap.

If Domathy's plan works for you, excellent! :)
I would be happy if this whole nutrition pilgrimage will make people
more happier and less judgmental to other folks who shake their whey. ;)

I never said you cant build muscle with whey/dairy. Im currently writing a piece which explains, in no uncertain terms, why i advocate this particular approach over other approaches. But basically, this ticks all the boxes - muscle, fitness and health. I cant help a client get clean blood when they are drinking whey. Now, you can build muscle with meat/dairy - but you will not have clean blood like this:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2521/picture1qr.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/picture1qr.png/)


So, on this approach you can have strength, health and clean blood. So every area of a persons health will improve. There are lots of examples of athletes who burn out in later life as they got fit at the expense of their health. Flo Jo got a heart attack and so many other examples. If you want to be fit and healthy than it worth understanding this.

If you need milk to train then maybe you have other undelying issues - but there are lots of other, cleaner ways to fuel and build the body, thats all im saying with this.

lighthouse
04-08-2011, 07:13 PM
If you need milk to train then maybe you have other undelying issues - but there are lots of other, cleaner ways to fuel and build the body, thats all im saying with this.

You mean, in your humble opinion, yes? :D

You simply can't let it go. Your way or highway isn't it?
And relax, I'm not arguing with you,
but there is not one single thing I would advocate so firmly
in this world of everlasting change like you advocate this diet.

But that's just me, again. ;)

I would always stick with you if we were talking to a bunch of
fast food eaters. But we're not, I hope this can be an exchanging
of thoughts on some other level.
So, stay cool. :)

al209
04-08-2011, 07:46 PM
You mean, in your humble opinion, yes? :D

You simply can't let it go. Your way or highway isn't it?
And relax, I'm not arguing with you,
but there is not one single thing I would advocate so firmly
in this world of everlasting change like you advocate this diet.

But that's just me, again. ;)

I would always stick with you if we were talking to a bunch of
fast food eaters. But we're not, I hope this can be an exchanging
of thoughts on some other level.
So, stay cool. :)Some info on milk you may find interesting (http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=178489)

domathy
04-08-2011, 07:51 PM
You mean, in your humble opinion, yes? :D

You simply can't let it go. Your way or highway isn't it?
And relax, I'm not arguing with you,
but there is not one single thing I would advocate so firmly
in this world of everlasting change like you advocate this diet.

But that's just me, again. ;)

I would always stick with you if we were talking to a bunch of
fast food eaters. But we're not, I hope this can be an exchanging
of thoughts on some other level.
So, stay cool. :)

Thats a very defeatist attitude.

What i mean is, for this blink of an eye in time - this diet will work good if you have a health problem or want peak fitness. Nothing wrong with saying that.

If you read between the lines, this is just info. Im perparing a generic disclaimer which i will post on each page of this thread - to help people read between the lines.

There is nothing wrong with me saying its best to avoid corn, due to the way it is stored and farmed as its full of fungus. Its just info - take from it what you want.
I have healed myslef using nutrition - now i eat the diet that works for me. Ive said a hundred times - its a stepping stone. I dont even know if a natural diet for humans actually exists - its not worth agonising over - but some will resonate with this and use it to get the results that they want.

This is the only way i know of to get the blood almost 100% pure - thats just info. Just information. It is a choice wether a person wants to go for that as a goal.

A Rolls Royce is one option for a car, a BWM is also a choice, and so is a ford mondeo. You can go from A-B in any of those vehicles - but its not extreme or alarmist to point out a rolls is the best. I cant afford one but i dont resent the rolls royce. Different people have different goals and priorities.

Im sorry you think this thread is about something other that just presenting info.

akana
04-08-2011, 08:09 PM
Top 7 Alkaline Herbal Teas

Yerba Mate Tea: A wonderful tea, native to South America, that can be really useful in detoxing and cleansing. It gives a slight energy boost, that is free from the jitters of caffeine-based drinks such as coffee and green tea and each infusion of yerba mate contains:
• Vitamins: A, C, E, B1, B2, Niacin (B3), B5, B Complex
• Minerals: Calcium, Manganese, Iron, Selenium, Potassium, Magnesium, Phosphorus, Zinc
• Additional Compounds: Carotene, Fatty Acids, Chlorophyll, Flavonols, Polyphenols, Inositol, Trace Minerals, Antioxidants, Tannins, Pantothenic Acid and 15 Amino Acids.

Redbush Tea (rooibos tea): absolutely PACKED with antioxidants, this awesome tea is a great drink to have if you’re trying to transition away from coffee. It’s slightly bitter taste helps replace that bitter urge for coffee and black tea. It’s packed full of nutrients including calcium, manganese, zinc and magnesium – all powerful alkaline minerals.

Peppermint Tea: very alkaline, very tasty and very, very good for digestion. It’s refreshing, natural and caffeine free and has been widely recommended for IBS, flatulence, bad breath, nausea and heartburn.

Ginger Tea: one of my personal favourites, this zingy badboy is also good for digestion and nausea – but is also great for circulation, colds, flu, stress and headaches.

Rosemary Tea: native to the Mediterranean, Rosemary is another big hitter in the antioxidant stakes. I love it because it grows SO easily and you get LOADS of it when you grow a bush! It’s high in the following: beta-carotene/Vitamin A, thiamin/Vitamin B1, riboflavin/Vitamin B2, niacin/Vitamin B3, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12, biotin, pantothenic acid, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Vitamin E and Vitamin K making it a great all-rounder!

Lavender Tea: the best smelling tea, lavendar is the great relaxer – helping ease you off to sleep, to ease anxiety and stress and to help unwind after a long day. Luckily I’ve got almost as much lavender growing as I have rosemary! Hence me being so relaxed

Rose hip Tea: rose hips are the fragrant and tasty fruit of the wild rose plant and make a very very flavoursome tea. Because of the very high vitamin C content in rosehips (along with other vitamins, minerals and tannins), rosehips are considered to be an energizer. They are also rich in flavonoids, which help strengthen your body’s capillaries among other things. Very useful for colds, flu, headaches, stomach aches and more
To be honest, aside from green, white and black tea (which all contain caffeine) you can’t really go wrong!

is this true domathy? i read that rose hip tea is acidic in another source

lighthouse
04-08-2011, 08:31 PM
Thats a very defeatist attitude.

I have healed myslef using nutrition - now i eat the diet that works for me. Ive said a hundred times - its a stepping stone. I dont even know if a natural diet for humans actually exists - its not worth agonising over - but some will resonate with this and use it to get the results that they want.

It's not defeatist, no not at all, it's a product
of years of experience, inheritance from an old soul that
has tried to be 100 % right about this and that,
and failed.
I appreciate your information, and it's certainly much better to eat
like you do, than how most of the people of western civilisation do.
That's not the issue.
And I appreciate the time and effort you put in this,
like I appreciate the time and effort anyone puts into something
that could benefit him/her or other people.

The example with the cars you gave is to the point.
Except some of us feel comfortable in BMW,
some in Rolls, and others in.. what was the last.. :D

The difference between you and me is not
that I drink milk when I train and you don't.
The difference is I don't know what I'll be drinking in next few weeks,
let alone would I say to anyone that
he absolutely, 100%, no doubt, surely needs to drink milk
or whey when he trains.
And trust me, I've done my portion of reading and research about
any godamn diet there was in the last 20 years,
not to mention the fact I had the opportunity to see
lab experiments on things many people can only guess about
while reading studies that may or may not be true.
I've counted blood cells under the microscope for myself.
Maybe that's why I don't easily buy into many, many
theories on biochemistry on DIF forums.
Yeah, I know that makes me a pain in the ass
in this thread, but sorry, that's how it is. :D

Question: Cranberry tea, from leaves, not the fruit?
Know about that?
Maybe I would advocate this to solve any kind of
bladder infection there is. ;)

scottishryan
04-08-2011, 08:40 PM
What about rice Milk, is it any good?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CJUIj-3g2G0/TL3_FyWhiGI/AAAAAAAAAEI/_Q3KYwihm44/s200/rice+dream.jpg

Oh, and I have a Ford Mondeo...its all that I can afford just now LMAO :D

akana
04-08-2011, 08:46 PM
What about rice Milk, is it any good?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CJUIj-3g2G0/TL3_FyWhiGI/AAAAAAAAAEI/_Q3KYwihm44/s200/rice+dream.jpg

Oh, and I have a Ford Mondeo...its all that I can afford just now LMAO :D

No, it's not - I can already see that it is fortified with calcium (calcium carbonate) which is the primary source of kidney stones

why not put some soaked almonds in a blender with some water to make raw almond milk?

scottishryan
04-08-2011, 08:51 PM
No, it's not - I can already see that it is fortified with calcium (calcium carbonate) which is the primary source of kidney stones

why not put some soaked almonds in a blender with some water to make raw almond milk?

Thanks Akana, I was not entirely sure! I have tried a carton of the above milk and it was nice but really I am not a massive milk drinker anyway.

I never thought of the almonds and blender thing...I have some here too so might give it a bash for a wee tester :):)

akana
04-08-2011, 08:58 PM
Thanks Akana, I was not entirely sure! I have tried a carton of the above milk and it was nice but really I am not a massive milk drinker anyway.

I never thought of the almonds and blender thing...I have some here too so might give it a bash for a wee tester :):)

No prob, I usually just put almonds in my smoothie , a lot faster and easier than making milk and then adding to smoothies

domathy
04-08-2011, 09:08 PM
Top 7 Alkaline Herbal Teas



is this true domathy? i read that rose hip tea is acidic in another source

I gotta be honest - I dont know the answer to that. Herbal teas are great though.

It's not defeatist, no not at all, it's a product
of years of experience, inheritance from an old soul that
has tried to be 100 % right about this and that,
and failed.
I appreciate your information, and it's certainly much better to eat
like you do, than how most of the people of western civilisation do.
That's not the issue.
And I appreciate the time and effort you put in this,
like I appreciate the time and effort anyone puts into something
that could benefit him/her or other people.

The example with the cars you gave is to the point.
Except some of us feel comfortable in BMW,
some in Rolls, and others in.. what was the last.. :D

Me too - i have a rolls royce diet, but have other vehicles for other areas of my life (a mondeo is made by ford).

The difference between you and me is not
that I drink milk when I train and you don't.
The difference is I don't know what I'll be drinking in next few weeks,
let alone would I say to anyone that
he absolutely, 100%, no doubt, surely needs to drink milk
or whey when he trains.
And trust me, I've done my portion of reading and research about
any godamn diet there was in the last 20 years,
not to mention the fact I had the opportunity to see
lab experiments on things many people can only guess about
while reading studies that may or may not be true.
I've counted blood cells under the microscope for myself.
Maybe that's why I don't easily buy into many, many
theories on biochemistry on DIF forums.
Yeah, I know that makes me a pain in the ass
in this thread, but sorry, that's how it is. :D

I never count blood cells - just look at their quality. But yes, lots of BS around.

Question: Cranberry tea, from leaves, not the fruit?
Know about that?
Maybe I would advocate this to solve any kind of
bladder infection there is. ;)

Leaves are good.

What about rice Milk, is it any good?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CJUIj-3g2G0/TL3_FyWhiGI/AAAAAAAAAEI/_Q3KYwihm44/s200/rice+dream.jpg

Oh, and I have a Ford Mondeo...its all that I can afford just now LMAO :D

I got a xantia with a hydraulic leak :p

No, it's not - I can already see that it is fortified with calcium (calcium carbonate) which is the primary source of kidney stones

why not put some soaked almonds in a blender with some water to make raw almond milk?

Good post. Almond milk is so quick and easy to make.

akana
08-08-2011, 02:22 PM
I've been following Domathy's diet , and now my dry skin has healed! I"m so impressed.

Also, my digestive tract has healed, after years of problems. Green smoothies have fixed it right up!

glacidtek
08-08-2011, 03:29 PM
Thanks for the info Domathy:

Something like this would work very well
*Drink greens and pH drops 1st thing AM to flush kidneys.
*10 mins later 2 tbs of Udo's oil
*Breakfast - Avocado, Gluten free porridge (millet, rice, quinnoa flakes) etc
*40 mins later - greens drink
*10 mins later Udos Oil
*20 mins later greens/water
*oil
*lunch
*greens
*oil
*DInner
*greens
*oil

Something like that.

If you followed a schedule like that you could report back in a few weeks with amazing results - thats a promise that I am making in public and putting my neck on the line. I can help you fine tune.



I appreciate you putting your neck on the line, and I'm willing to give this a go.... regarding Udo's oil, where would the cheepest supplier be?
£17 for 500ml seems expensive?

Also, by greens/water do you mean green juice/smoothies?


I will be giving this a go, but I will be off on a trip abroad where I cannot control my diet for a week or so quite soon. I will start this on my return. Just so you know that the results will be a few weeks defered!!

domathy
08-08-2011, 05:58 PM
I've been following Domathy's diet , and now my dry skin has healed! I"m so impressed.

Good work - and youve applied all the principles properly so im not suprised you got good results so far :)

Also, my digestive tract has healed, after years of problems. Green smoothies have fixed it right up!

Thanks for the info Domathy:

Something like this would work very well
*Drink greens and pH drops 1st thing AM to flush kidneys.
*10 mins later 2 tbs of Udo's oil
*Breakfast - Avocado, Gluten free porridge (millet, rice, quinnoa flakes) etc
*40 mins later - greens drink
*10 mins later Udos Oil
*20 mins later greens/water
*oil
*lunch
*greens
*oil
*DInner
*greens
*oil

Something like that.

If you followed a schedule like that you could report back in a few weeks with amazing results - thats a promise that I am making in public and putting my neck on the line. I can help you fine tune.



I appreciate you putting your neck on the line, and I'm willing to give this a go.... regarding Udo's oil, where would the cheepest supplier be?
£17 for 500ml seems expensive?

Also, by greens/water do you mean green juice/smoothies?


I will be giving this a go, but I will be off on a trip abroad where I cannot control my diet for a week or so quite soon. I will start this on my return. Just so you know that the results will be a few weeks defered!!

pounds of seeds are perssed to make 500ml of oil, so its very concentrated and that is a good price. Make sure you buy it from a fridge and when you taste it if it has any kind of bitter taste, (sipit it out :p) then go back the following day with receipt and say its rancid. It needs to taste smooth and creamy/nutty - but some shopkeepers are stupid and dont store the oil properly and it oxidizes - and at that price you want to get what you pay for.

Get a concentrated herbal mix of greens - preferably ionized greens. Google 'doc broc greens' or 'innerlight supergreens' or 'essante earth greens' you want to buy the matching pH drops too.

leon11
08-08-2011, 06:23 PM
I appreciate you putting your neck on the line, and I'm willing to give this a go.... regarding Udo's oil, where would the cheepest supplier be?
£17 for 500ml seems expensive?

Also, by greens/water do you mean green juice/smoothies?


I will be giving this a go, but I will be off on a trip abroad where I cannot control my diet for a week or so quite soon. I will start this on my return. Just so you know that the results will be a few weeks defered!!


until dom gets back...yes Udo's oil is expensive (the good things are unfortunately). £17 is around what I paid. You need to keep it refrigerated so dont buy it online...go to a local health shop.

greens water refers to organic greens powder like this:

https://www.essanteworldwide.com/default.aspx?tabid=55&webusercountry=USA&itemcode=410

there are several alternatives but you dont want any old greens powders (avoid holland & barret etc)....the good ones are processed in a way as to keep as much nutrients in them as possible (normal processes destroy most of the nutrients).
Mix these in as good a water as you can get hold of. Get yourself one of these, they are very cheap :)
http://www.panosun.org/products.php?cat=15
the science behind them is a bit mental, but they work good ;)

drink the greens down as quickly as possible after mixing.
greens are the basis/key (along with making sure youre intestine is in good enough condition to process them - magnesium oxide helps that).
greens = chloropyll = good blood = good health
(ive heard this somewhere before :))

sorry if youre already familiar with some of this

leon11
08-08-2011, 06:24 PM
heheh you beat me to it dom =P

domathy
08-08-2011, 08:26 PM
until dom gets back...yes Udo's oil is expensive (the good things are unfortunately). £17 is around what I paid. You need to keep it refrigerated so dont buy it online...go to a local health shop.

greens water refers to organic greens powder like this:

https://www.essanteworldwide.com/default.aspx?tabid=55&webusercountry=USA&itemcode=410

there are several alternatives but you dont want any old greens powders (avoid holland & barret etc)....the good ones are processed in a way as to keep as much nutrients in them as possible (normal processes destroy most of the nutrients).
Mix these in as good a water as you can get hold of. Get yourself one of these, they are very cheap :)
http://www.panosun.org/products.php?cat=15
the science behind them is a bit mental, but they work good ;)

drink the greens down as quickly as possible after mixing.
greens are the basis/key (along with making sure youre intestine is in good enough condition to process them - magnesium oxide helps that).
greens = chloropyll = good blood = good health
(ive heard this somewhere before :))

sorry if youre already familiar with some of this

Great post :)

Fresh veg juice tastes very good - but the effect is nowhere near as powerful as drinking ionized wheatgrass powder with bitter herbs.

lizzyking
08-08-2011, 10:39 PM
Great post :)

Fresh veg juice tastes very good - but the effect is nowhere near as powerful as drinking ionized wheatgrass powder with bitter herbs.

Nice avatar Domathy.
http://i51.tinypic.com/dn263t.png
A pic of me in the break-room at work last winter, with a glass full of freshly juiced wheatgrass, I just cut the blades from the tray I grew it in. Never mind the Pepsi vending machine in the background ("get thee behind me, Satan!" lol).

leon11
09-08-2011, 12:26 AM
A pic of me in the break-room at work last winter, with a glass full of freshly juiced wheatgrass, I just cut the blades from the tray I grew it in. Never mind the Pepsi vending machine in the background ("get thee behind me, Satan!" lol).

haha! PEPSI comes from PEPI apparently (Egyptian I think?) which actually means SATAN!
did you know that?!

leon11
09-08-2011, 12:31 AM
Redmond Clay (and other edible clays) are AMAZING for the people that dont know.
And ladies, (and men?!) it even makes a special face mask for clearing your pores!

Some info:

http://www.redmondclay.com/2011/free-download-we-eat-clay/
"We Eat Clay"

http://applesanddoctors.com/healing-therapies/healing-clay.html
Healing Clay: Gaia's Gift

http://www.aboutclay.com/clay_info.htm

domathy
13-08-2011, 08:38 PM
Nice avatar Domathy.
http://i51.tinypic.com/dn263t.png
A pic of me in the break-room at work last winter, with a glass full of freshly juiced wheatgrass, I just cut the blades from the tray I grew it in. Never mind the Pepsi vending machine in the background ("get thee behind me, Satan!" lol).

Nice pic :) Wheatgrass is amazing stuff.

haha! PEPSI comes from PEPI apparently (Egyptian I think?) which actually means SATAN!
did you know that?!

Lol. I knew that but forgot that i knew - if you know what i mean.

Redmond Clay (and other edible clays) are AMAZING for the people that dont know.
And ladies, (and men?!) it even makes a special face mask for clearing your pores!

Some info:

http://www.redmondclay.com/2011/free-download-we-eat-clay/
"We Eat Clay"

http://applesanddoctors.com/healing-therapies/healing-clay.html
Healing Clay: Gaia's Gift

http://www.aboutclay.com/clay_info.htm


I got the house to myself so will be doing some clay facials :)

scottishryan
13-08-2011, 09:43 PM
I am going to the health store tomorrow to buy my wheatgrass juice again ;) I felt phenomenal while having it daily!! I maybe run to fast and fell to the way side before....Tiny steps and keeping to my whole eating philosophy should work perfect!! :D

domathy
13-08-2011, 09:56 PM
Just a quick goodbye to all the awesome people i met on this thread :)

I been on DIF too long and its time for a break (i think hitting the 2000+ post mark was the turning point :D)

Will maybe come back in the future after consolidating and distilling the alklaine info.

In the mean time - take care yall :D

akana
13-08-2011, 10:16 PM
Just a quick goodbye to all the awesome people i met on this thread :)

I been on DIF too long and its time for a break (i think hitting the 2000+ post mark was the turning point :D)

Will maybe come back in the future after consolidating and distilling the alklaine info.

In the mean time - take care yall :D

You will be missed :)

domathy
13-08-2011, 10:22 PM
You will be missed :)

You too :p

But I'll be watching from afar :D

I think itll do me good to just read and listen to others for a while.

Thanks for all the positive energy you and others have POURED into this thread :)

enga
13-08-2011, 10:26 PM
Thanks for all the info.....have a nice sabbatical:D

scottishryan
13-08-2011, 10:27 PM
you will be missed :)

+ 1000 :)

biba
13-08-2011, 10:34 PM
Sorry to see you go, Dom.

domathy
13-08-2011, 10:36 PM
Thanks for all the info.....have a nice sabbatical:D

+ 1000 :)

Sorry to see you go, Dom.

**tries not to cry** :D

domathy
14-08-2011, 02:05 PM
+ 1000 :)

Hey Ryan,
Its seems a shame to kill this thread as i see its had over 35k hits and gets lots of exposure. Would it be possible, if i leave this account open, to maybe tidy the thread up instead of starting fresh? What i mean is, for the benefit of new readers, to delete all that pointless text in post #1 (which i think would put a lot of people off), and just have a short intro and the scribd link.

And then, have a note to say to skim forward to whatever page we are on now and I will gather together all the relevant bits and post all in one place so that new people dont have to work their way through the entire thread.

Because thinking about it, Leon11 has busted and gone throught this thread and condensed all the relevant info for the beneift of other readers and I think has nearly finished preparing the info - so I would feel like a total git if i kill the thread now.

So Ryan, as your a mod, are you able to edit the first page so that i can try and give the thread a new direction? If so, I will work out what needs to be done and also what new links might be needed. I know you only been a mod for a few days, but if you dont know how then FIND OUT HOW! :)
Seriously though, whould appreciate your help.


Its not ideal but its a shame to kill the thread. I just want the thread set up so i can leave it ticking over without input from me while i take a breather from DIF in general.

scottishryan
14-08-2011, 04:53 PM
Hey Ryan,
Its seems a shame to kill this thread as i see its had over 35k hits and gets lots of exposure. Would it be possible, if i leave this account open, to maybe tidy the thread up instead of starting fresh? What i mean is, for the benefit of new readers, to delete all that pointless text in post #1 (which i think would put a lot of people off), and just have a short intro and the scribd link.

And then, have a note to say to skim forward to whatever page we are on now and I will gather together all the relevant bits and post all in one place so that new people dont have to work their way through the entire thread.

Because thinking about it, Leon11 has busted and gone throught this thread and condensed all the relevant info for the beneift of other readers and I think has nearly finished preparing the info - so I would feel like a total git if i kill the thread now.

So Ryan, as your a mod, are you able to edit the first page so that i can try and give the thread a new direction? If so, I will work out what needs to be done and also what new links might be needed. I know you only been a mod for a few days, but if you dont know how then FIND OUT HOW! :)
Seriously though, whould appreciate your help.


Its not ideal but its a shame to kill the thread. I just want the thread set up so i can leave it ticking over without input from me while i take a breather from DIF in general.

Hey Dom!!

Just catching a bite to eat just now ;) but when done and watered I will PM you and you can let me know the plan you envision for the thread! Being the original poster of the topic and wishing to update I can see no problem with and I think it would be excellent pulling all the information together and updating!

As long as the plans do not go against members posting freedoms, the guidelines of the site and are what the creator of the topic wishes to put across...then great stuff and superb for us all as a resource!! :D

Right, back to my meal..speak soon :p

lighthouse
14-08-2011, 08:34 PM
Although I can't make it on your diet, Domathy,
I believe you shared info that will help some people
to solve some of their health issues and feel better.
Stay cool, and, by the way,
what's all about this dramatic leaving the forum? :eek:

:)

domathy
14-08-2011, 09:28 PM
Although I can't make it on your diet, Domathy,
I believe you shared info that will help some people
to solve some of their health issues and feel better.
Stay cool, and, by the way,
what's all about this dramatic leaving the forum? :eek:

:)

Nice one :)

Well, I just wanted a breather for a while (from DIF in general), and then work out a way to present this info better and in a more balanced way so people can get the most from it - but I think that just editing and organizing the thread should do the trick instead of closing my account and starting fresh.

I remember you and I disagreed ages ago about a certain poster with a name beginning with a Z. and i always meant to say that i know you guys were right all along - so yeah, its good to question everything which i can tell you do :)

akana
14-08-2011, 09:31 PM
good luck to you, domathy

scottishryan
14-08-2011, 09:43 PM
Was listening to Tony Robbins again earlier while doing stuff around the office which was in regards to alkalising!! He is very very passionate about it! In addition, he mentions a guy named Sean who he met through "Make a Wish" charity, he had a bone disorder where as they fractured at very little stress.

He suggested to Sean's parents to try the Alkaline Diet and when the wee dude went back to see Tony a year later he was in great shape, doing exercises, 6 pack the whole hog...it saved his life......

Guess what book I have on my book reader...."Get OFF your Butt" by this young dude! he acknowledges Tony and more importantly "Dr Young" ;)

So in the process of going through the book!!

Tony is a legend of self-motivation and aspiring to be the best you can be...a multi-million dollar success who has studied human potential for a quarter of a century...must be taken seriously I say...

As always though...we are all different and may need tweaks to suit personal circumstances :)

Tony Robbins talks about Acid / Alkaline water. How alkalining helps you stay healthier. - YouTube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXaSlNpv6Bk

scottishryan
14-08-2011, 09:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXaSlNpv6Bk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXaSlNpv6Bk

Quote to show video :p

lighthouse
14-08-2011, 09:58 PM
Nice one :)

Well, I just wanted a breather for a while (from DIF in general), and then work out a way to present this info better and in a more balanced way so people can get the most from it - but I think that just editing and organizing the thread should do the trick instead of closing my account and starting fresh.


Don't close your account, people already know you,
there's no need to throw your identity away. :)


I remember you and I disagreed ages ago about a certain poster with a name beginning with a Z. and i always meant to say that i know you guys were right all along - so yeah, its good to question everything which i can tell you do :)

Enjoying my beer at the moment,
pretty hungry and drunk., :D ,
still haven't found out what will I eat tonight,
but nevertheless, :) .
C ya.

scottishryan
15-08-2011, 11:32 AM
Acid – Alkaline Forming Foods
By www.harmonikireland.com

Foods may be classified in relation to the metabolic process as acid alkaline. Alkali’s are soluble salts and acids are corrosive agents which have trouble combining with other things. A balanced diet contains 35% acid forming foods and 65% alkaline.
Highly Alkaline

Grasses, Cucumber, Kale, Kelp, Spinach, Parsley, Broccoli, Sprouts, Sea Vegetables (Kelp), Green drinks.
High Alkaline

Avocado, Beetroot, Capsicum/Pepper, Cabbage, Celery, Collard/Spring Greens, Endive, Garlic, Ginger,Green Beans, Lettuce, Mustard Greens, Okra, Onion, Radish,Red Onion, Rocket/Arugula, Tomato, Lemon, Lime, Butter Beans,White Haricot Beans, Chia/Salba, Quinoa.

Mildly Alkaline

Artichokes, Asparagus, Brussels Sprouts, Cauliflower, Carrot, Chives, Courgette/Zucchini, Leeks, New Baby Potatoes Peas, Rhubarb, Swede, Watercress, Grapefruit, Coconut, Buckwheat, Quinoa, Spelt, Lentils, Tofu, Other Beans & Legumes, Goat & Almond Milk, Most Herbs & Spices, Avocado Oil, Coconut Oil, Flax Oil/ Udo’s Oil.

Neutral / Mildly Acidic

Black Beans, Chickpeas/Garbanzos, Kidney Beans, Seitan, Cantaloupe, Currants, Fresh Dates, Nectarine, Plum, Sweet Cherry, Watermelon, Amaranth, Millet, Oats/Oatmeal, Spelt, Soybeans, Rice/Soy/Hemp Protein, Freshwater Wild Fish, Rice & Soy Milk, Brazil Nuts, Pecan Nuts, Hazel Nuts, Sunflower Oil, Grapeseed Oil.

Moderately Acidic

Ketchup, Mayonnaise, Butter, Apple, Apricot, Banana, Blackberry, Blueberry, Cranberry, Grapes, Mango, Mangosteen,Orange, Peach, Papaya, Pineapple, Strawberry, Brown Rice, Oats, Rye Bread, Wheat, Wholemeal Bread, Wild Rice, Wholemeal Pasta, Ocean Fish.

Highly Acidic

Alcohol, Coffee & Black Tea, Fruit Juice (Sweetened / Concentrated / Packaged), Cocoa, Honey, Jam, Jelly, Mustard, Miso, Rice Syrup, Soy Sauce, Vinegar, Yeast, Dried Fruit, Beef, Chicken, Eggs, Farmed Fish, Pork, Shellfish, Cheese, Dairy, Artificial Sweeteners, Syrup, Mushroom.

Acid/Alkaline (pH) are the two characteristic conditions of blood and cell solution. Any solution is either more acid or more alkaline. If Acidic Characteristics dominate, the solution is acid. However there is no absolute acid or alkaline. An Acid solution always contains some alkaline factors, and a alkaline solution always contains some acid factors. Neutrality is an ideal condition in which the amour of acid and alkalinity is equal. It is an ideal state, and not realistic. In reality, what we eat or drink is always more acid or alkaline.......

Read More | Harmonik Ireland (http://www.harmonikireland.com/acid-alkaline-forming-foods/)

carlperkins
15-08-2011, 06:48 PM
Hey Domathy, I've just come back from a lovely holiday in Crete, I missed all the uk riot action, and also find you talk of having a break. I understand the break bit, it sure was nice to get away from internet activity to relax, so enjoy it while you can. Just wanted to say a massive thanks for this thread, possibly a life saver for me, the avos and bicarb, quality water and all the diet info and awareness has been more valuable than any other source of help I have searched, including my GP.
I bet you don't have a break!
CP

biba
15-08-2011, 07:07 PM
Hey there, scottishryan. :)

I have met Dr. Young, way back, when his Innerlight MLM business was just starting out in the UK. A very smart and intelligent man. :)

And while I'm name dropping, I went to a Tony Robbin's 4 day seminar at O2 in London a few years back. Superb, but hard work!

I can't understand all the knocks he gets - it's very obvious he uses NLP and unless you've been dragged along blindfolded, with earplugs, you'd know what methods he uses.:confused:

I love this thread - come back Dom!

scottishryan
15-08-2011, 08:25 PM
Hey there, scottishryan. :)

I have met Dr. Young, way back, when his Innerlight MLM business was just starting out in the UK. A very smart and intelligent man. :)

And while I'm name dropping, I went to a Tony Robbin's 4 day seminar at O2 in London a few years back. Superb, but hard work!

I can't understand all the knocks he gets - it's very obvious he uses NLP and unless you've been dragged along blindfolded, with earplugs, you'd know what methods he uses.:confused:

I love this thread - come back Dom!

Excellent Stuff!!

I have Tony Robbins on one of my MP3 players and regularly he gets a hearing :D The enthusiasm from his voice alone is inspiring!!

I love a mixture of self-improvement, spiritual seeking, health and well-being!

I have an ebook on my reader...the great big book of NLP, I plan to consume it one day...I am a sponge I tell ya!! :p

biba
15-08-2011, 08:59 PM
I have some of his stuff 'locked up' on a hard drive of one of my busted pcs.:mad:
But I do have 'Lessons In Mastery', 'The Body You Deserve', 'Personal Power 2' and 'Personal Power - Classic Edition', which I picked up for just £4 in a charity shop today - well chuffed.:D

domathy
16-08-2011, 04:17 PM
Was listening to Tony Robbins again earlier while doing stuff around the office which was in regards to alkalising!! He is very very passionate about it! In addition, he mentions a guy named Sean who he met through "Make a Wish" charity, he had a bone disorder where as they fractured at very little stress.

He suggested to Sean's parents to try the Alkaline Diet and when the wee dude went back to see Tony a year later he was in great shape, doing exercises, 6 pack the whole hog...it saved his life......

Guess what book I have on my book reader...."Get OFF your Butt" by this young dude! he acknowledges Tony and more importantly "Dr Young"

So in the process of going through the book!!

Tony is a legend of self-motivation and aspiring to be the best you can be...a multi-million dollar success who has studied human potential for a quarter of a century...must be taken seriously I say...

As always though...we are all different and may need tweaks to suit personal circumstances :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXaSlNpv6Bk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXaSlNpv6Bk

Sean was sent to Dr Young who sorted him right out! :D An excellent story and shows how even bones can regenerate. Tony was what first got me motivated and to believe i could grow and make changes in my life. He shone a light on all the subconscious patterns i was running and negative beliefs around subjects like money ie money is evil. So, yeah, Robbins has done a lot of good and he has a great way of presenting.
Don't close your account, people already know you,
there's no need to throw your identity away.

QUOTE]

Hope that beer was good :D

[QUOTE=carlperkins;1060129227]Hey Domathy, I've just come back from a lovely holiday in Crete, I missed all the uk riot action, and also find you talk of having a break. I understand the break bit, it sure was nice to get away from internet activity to relax, so enjoy it while you can. Just wanted to say a massive thanks for this thread, possibly a life saver for me, the avos and bicarb, quality water and all the diet info and awareness has been more valuable than any other source of help I have searched, including my GP.
I bet you don't have a break!
CP

Hi Carl, how was it in Crete? were you able to get avo;s and olives etc - either way, plenty of fresh seafood i bet. Im in devon and i missed all the riot action too - although some beach huts did get torched - but unrelated i think.
And your most welcome, im glad this thread has helped - thats why i posted the info. Im just working out how to add to this info and make it an easier resource to navigate, so yeah, i probably wont have much of a break...just a break from bickering i hope, so i just need to learn discipline :p
Hey there, scottishryan.

I have met Dr. Young, way back, when his Innerlight MLM business was just starting out in the UK. A very smart and intelligent man.

And while I'm name dropping, I went to a Tony Robbin's 4 day seminar at O2 in London a few years back. Superb, but hard work!

I can't understand all the knocks he gets - it's very obvious he uses NLP and unless you've been dragged along blindfolded, with earplugs, you'd know what methods he uses.:confused:

I love this thread - come back Dom!

People criticise tony and Rob young, but mostly its the people who want to stay stuck and not TAKE ACTION (tm) :p

A lot of people dont know that innerlight isnt Dr Youngs company. Actually they screwed him over and totally misrepresented him (so now the world thinks he's all about sales) and he spent years in a legal battle and he managed to get the contract with them dissolved. Now he is in the process of making his new, cheaper greens formula available to people.
Excellent Stuff!!

I have Tony Robbins on one of my MP3 players and regularly he gets a hearing :D The enthusiasm from his voice alone is inspiring!!

I love a mixture of self-improvement, spiritual seeking, health and well-being!

I have an ebook on my reader...the great big book of NLP, I plan to consume it one day...I am a sponge I tell ya!! :p

I have some of his stuff 'locked up' on a hard drive of one of my busted pcs.:mad:
But I do have 'Lessons In Mastery', 'The Body You Deserve', 'Personal Power 2' and 'Personal Power - Classic Edition', which I picked up for just £4 in a charity shop today - well chuffed.:D

Bargain!!!

I love listening to Tony aswell, his enthusiasm is infectious - and as you say, he covers so many areas of personal development.

biba
16-08-2011, 05:07 PM
I'm still with Innerlight, but not working the business.
I was shocked when I found out he wasn't part of IL any more!:eek:

My friends and I used to call the Super Greens - pond sludge! I never could get on with the taste. I guess the more alkalised you get, the better these drinks taste.

carlperkins
16-08-2011, 09:37 PM
Crete was just beautiful, 34C everyday. It really cheered me up. Within 24 hours of arrival I had turned the appartment into an avacado ripening factory!

Another question if you don't mind, I notice that the current almond milk I have bought from H&B has been sweetened with agave syrup. Any views on this?

domathy
17-08-2011, 04:34 PM
I'm still with Innerlight, but not working the business.
I was shocked when I found out he wasn't part of IL any more!:eek:

My friends and I used to call the Super Greens - pond sludge! I never could get on with the taste. I guess the more alkalised you get, the better these drinks taste.

Yes, he brought out some new greens that were equal to the innerlight formula and for 2 or 3 years I had access to really cheap supplies. And I was able to sell 1lb of greens for £40 and pH drops (triple strength) for £14 for 2oz :D but those days are gone :( Though I found out that energizeforlife.com is selling the same greens for £60 which is a flippin bargain - so im going to start letting people know.

Its funny cos everyone calls it pond sludge/water, but as you say, after a while your taste adjusts

Crete was just beautiful, 34C everyday. It really cheered me up. Within 24 hours of arrival I had turned the appartment into an avacado ripening factory!

Another question if you don't mind, I notice that the current almond milk I have bought from H&B has been sweetened with agave syrup. Any views on this?

Sounds lovely in crete! And good work with the avo ripening in your room :)

Agave syrup is not too bad I think, but its soo easy to make almond milk. If soaking the almonds is too much hassle, just put some almonds in a blender with a litre of water, blend then strain - and there you have a litre of almond milk. I would say a bit of manuka honey would be best if you want sweetener (put in before you blend) and a pinch of salt is a good idea, but make sure you use himalayan salt.

domathy
17-08-2011, 05:49 PM
Here's a link for those greens:
http://www.energiseforlife.com/item_Dr_Robert_Young_Greens_pH_Miracle_454g_1lb_MI RACLEGREENS.html

The pH drops are on the same site too.

biba
17-08-2011, 08:45 PM
Thanks for all that info, Dom! :)

curtaincat
18-08-2011, 04:37 PM
Hi Domathy,
You never ever said to drink a whole glass of Lemon Juice first thing in the morning , did you?
surely it has to be mixed with water?

domathy
21-08-2011, 06:56 PM
Hi Domathy,
You never ever said to drink a whole glass of Lemon Juice first thing in the morning , did you?
surely it has to be mixed with water?

Hi There :)

I normally say the juice of 3 or 4 (ripe) lemons mixed with equal parts water is good. Personally i have about 2 pts water to 1 pt lemon and then add bicarb to make it fizzy and buffer the acids instead of allowing them to naturally turn to alklaine in the body. I often have 6 or 7 lemons in my lemonade especially if its a hot day.

Why? who said i said to drink pure lemon juice? I got my suspicions.

EDIT: its okay, i found it by looking at your posts. Plus drinking 35g of ascorbic acid is asking for lots of trouble in the long run!!

scottishryan
21-08-2011, 07:00 PM
Hi There :)

I normally say the juice of 3 or 4 (ripe) lemons mixed with equal parts water is good. Personally i have about 2 pts water to 1 pt lemon and then add bicarb to make it fizzy and buffer the acids instead of allowing them to naturally turn to alklaine in the body. I often have 6 or 7 lemons in my lemonade especially if its a hot day.

Why? who said i said to drink pure lemon juice? I got my suspicions.

Dom, what's your thought on the fizzy spring water mixed with lemons! Not sure if it would explode if bicarb added though Hahahahaha :D

domathy
21-08-2011, 07:18 PM
Dom, what's your thought on the fizzy spring water mixed with lemons! Not sure if it would explode if bicarb added though Hahahahaha :D

Nah, its acidic. They use carbon dioxide (i think :confused:) to make it fizzy, either way though its acidic. Best to use bicarb, but for social occasions fizzy spring water is good if you dont want people thinking youve given up booze and moved to heaped teaspoons of coke instead :o

Speaking of which, hows the beer thing going?

scottishryan
21-08-2011, 07:27 PM
Nah, its acidic. They use carbon dioxide (i think :confused:) to make it fizzy, either way though its acidic. Best to use bicarb, but for social occasions fizzy spring water is good if you dont want people thinking youve given up booze and moved to heaped teaspoons of coke instead :o

Speaking of which, hows the beer thing going?

Ahhh, I never knew that! flippen heck, you learn something new daily on here!! :)

My giving up beer has went crap over the last few weeks to be honest and you know what, I was just saying to others...I am getting very horrid hangovers now!! really drained of energy!

I gave all my beer away to a family member yesterday morning through being fed up with it all.....I need to go 21 days without the need to indulge in my weekend habit and then I would have re-written the programming I feel!!

I have to chalk it down to a mix of boredom, habit and the feel of missing out on something Dom! I was rocking a few weeks back too **slaps head* :D

domathy
22-08-2011, 07:36 PM
Ahhh, I never knew that! flippen heck, you learn something new daily on here!! :)

My giving up beer has went crap over the last few weeks to be honest and you know what, I was just saying to others...I am getting very horrid hangovers now!! really drained of energy!

I gave all my beer away to a family member yesterday morning through being fed up with it all.....I need to go 21 days without the need to indulge in my weekend habit and then I would have re-written the programming I feel!!

I have to chalk it down to a mix of boredom, habit and the feel of missing out on something Dom! I was rocking a few weeks back too **slaps head* :D

Maybe you need to put something in writing and ask for help. ie Dear Universe (or who/whatever). I did that with chocolate a couple weeks back and it seems to have worked. I normally quit for a few days or a week then cave in out of habit - but its been like 8 days now and seriously havent missed it once and come to think of it i havent been bored either, even though nothing much is different. Writing that request is the only thing i did different. Something like "dear universe, please give me the strength, motivation and emotional healing requred to quit chocolate forever". So try it.....i dare you.
Dare to believe it might work. If you feel like a twat, then remember the film revolver :cool:

Can address the note to the universe/multiverses/higher self/god - i dont think it matters, and it can be a scribble on a napkin as it doesnt need to be formal - so what have you got to lose?

lighthouse
22-08-2011, 07:55 PM
Maybe you need to put something in writing and ask for help.
Can address the note to the universe/multiverses/higher self/god - i dont think it matters, and it can be a scribble on a napkin as it doesnt need to be formal - so what have you got to lose?

Nothing, and if one is sincere, it will work. :)

domathy
22-08-2011, 08:15 PM
Nothing, and if one is sincere, it will work. :)

See Ryan....It works :)

And there is no shame in admitting that help and assistance is required. It is the ego that insists we figure it out by ourselves and it is the ego that says asking for help implies weakness. But who even knows where our habits/addictions come from? Maybe they are even implanted, and the universe is just waiting for the invitation to remove the programming.
Anyway, were not supposed to figure it all out by ourselves as that just disconnects further from source and our higher self IMO.

akana
22-08-2011, 08:28 PM
See Ryan....It works :)

And there is no shame in admitting that help and assistance is required. It is the ego that insists we figure it out by ourselves and it is the ego that says asking for help implies weakness. But who even knows where our habits/addictions come from? Maybe they are even implanted, and the universe is just waiting for the invitation to remove the programming.
Anyway, were not supposed to figure it all out by ourselves as that just disconnects further from source and our higher self IMO.

Yep, that's why I hate AA and NA and all that stuff, because they brainwash people into thinking that they are 'powerless' over their 'disease', when in reality we ARE powerful and can overcome any addiction

domathy
22-08-2011, 08:34 PM
Yep, that's why I hate AA and NA and all that stuff, because they brainwash people into thinking that they are 'powerless' over their 'disease', when in reality we ARE powerful and can overcome any addiction

YEs, and that cultivates weakness and low esteem. These programs undermine and disempower people - hence why they dont work :rolleyes:

Actually, although i hate to say it, Ron Hubbard actually has one of the best rehab programs about as he gets addicts sitting in saunas for many hours each day to sweat all the chemicals out of the body, instead of the usual NA crap and methodone or whatever. Detoxification is really important for full rehabillitation.

scottishryan
22-08-2011, 09:03 PM
Some excellent posts!!!!!

I have been on and off here all day and yesterday as I have actually began the process of study and application along the same lines involving mindset, thinking, feelings, emotions and action. I am soaking up seminars, audio books and reading as I take my self-development to the next stage!

I am a firm believer in, if we ask we will get assistance from the universe or however people define the source, I am actually sitting here wondering WHY I have not written this down as suggested Dom :confused: I seem to have the knowledge, understanding but not yet fully applied a lot of things....

OK lets do it then....Heading off soon to listen to an audio book but beforehand I will do as suggested and keep you all informed of progress ;)

Thanks You three ;):)

domathy
22-08-2011, 09:27 PM
Some excellent posts!!!!!

I have been on and off here all day and yesterday as I have actually began the process of study and application along the same lines involving mindset, thinking, feelings, emotions and action. I am soaking up seminars, audio books and reading as I take my self-development to the next stage!

I am a firm believer in, if we ask we will get assistance from the universe or however people define the source, I am actually sitting here wondering WHY I have not written this down as suggested Dom :confused: I seem to have the knowledge, understanding but not yet fully applied a lot of things....

OK lets do it then....Heading off soon to listen to an audio book but beforehand I will do as suggested and keep you all informed of progress ;)

Thanks You three ;):)

The reason why you didnt do it sooner is because the person in your head who you believed to be you, 'kindly' told you it is too simple to be effective. What a nice chap he is :)

Good luck :)

Im off to write a written request to ask for you to succeed too ;)

EDIT: done it.

scottishryan
23-08-2011, 07:42 AM
The reason why you didnt do it sooner is because the person in your head who you believed to be you, 'kindly' told you it is too simple to be effective. What a nice chap he is :)

Good luck :)

Im off to write a written request to ask for you to succeed too ;)

EDIT: done it.

Morning Dom,

Well it was done last night too, I jumped off and retreated to my bed to listen to a Wayne Dyer audio book and put in a written request in what is now deemed...my written request to source notebook :D

I agree with the ego! Maybe this is the biggest reason for my self-sabotage in the past. See it tells you things like:

Life will be boring without weekend drinking party

Life will be rubbish without cheese pizza

and on and on which results in lower self-esteem and eventual submission to these untrue thought patterns.

Its the same with my whole alkalising mindset...I am on and off more time that I care to count. Set back after set back so I am diving deep within, I reckon I have some strong habits formed in the sub-conscious. I am going to overwrite them with small constant steps and vision/imagination until I build new self empowering programming. I am going to use the notebook too...very very regularly!

Will keep posting in here since it is all related to alkalising and I am sure some will go through similar in life!! :)

lighthouse
23-08-2011, 08:55 AM
See Ryan....It works :)

And there is no shame in admitting that help and assistance is required. It is the ego that insists we figure it out by ourselves and it is the ego that says asking for help implies weakness.

Asking for help is not weakness, but a sign of true knowledge.
Only completely deluded people believe they don't need
help. The bigger the ego, the stronger the delusion.


I agree with the ego! Maybe this is the biggest reason for my self-sabotage in the past. See it tells you things like:

Life will be boring without weekend drinking party

Life will be rubbish without cheese pizza

and on and on which results in lower self-esteem and eventual submission to these untrue thought patterns.


What is the trick about all the changes we submerge in..
If your subconciousness doesn't agree with your ego will,
it won't work.
It goes from inside out, not from the sofisticated spiritual
layers we pick along the way in our life.
And it won't come from your healthy food dish,
it will be a consequence, not the cause.
Drastic changes I made in my diet over the years
have never came from convincing my self how this or that will detox me,
and how will I live more energized and more healthy.
It came from deep understanding of my needs,
mental, emotional and physical.
It is always the cost/benefit analysis,
answer to the what makes more damage question.

And if deep down you want your cheese pizza,
Universe can't do anything about that.
If you don't want it,
than it can.
Yours is the burden of honesty to know how you feel.
And there is nothing wrong about any of those two.
Just know how it is. That's what's important. :)

domathy
23-08-2011, 10:13 AM
Morning Dom,

Well it was done last night too, I jumped off and retreated to my bed to listen to a Wayne Dyer audio book and put in a written request in what is now deemed...my written request to source notebook :D

I agree with the ego! Maybe this is the biggest reason for my self-sabotage in the past. See it tells you things like:

Life will be boring without weekend drinking party

Life will be rubbish without cheese pizza

and on and on which results in lower self-esteem and eventual submission to these untrue thought patterns.

Its the same with my whole alkalising mindset...I am on and off more time that I care to count. Set back after set back so I am diving deep within, I reckon I have some strong habits formed in the sub-conscious. I am going to overwrite them with small constant steps and vision/imagination until I build new self empowering programming. I am going to use the notebook too...very very regularly!

Will keep posting in here since it is all related to alkalising and I am sure some will go through similar in life!! :)

Its wierd isnt it? I used to (until 8 days ago lol) think that life would be boring without an addiction to food. That life would feel empty without stimulants.

As you say, there was conflict because i wanted to quit but i also didnt want to quit. The way to overcome this is to just keep using that notebook! Ask questions, write prayers and you will get answers to your questions (in the form of synchronicities and 'knowings' will enter your mind) and you will get answers to your prayers. Do it for anything where you want the easy route or short cut and want to avoid trial and error. I think i asked for a perfect vehicle a while ago (need to check as im not sure)- anyway, the perfect car landed right in my lap. I would have had to search through 1000's of Adverts and view many cars to find such a clean well maintained car for the price i paid. Anything that requires energy ie if you need a new jacket but hate shopping - ask for the perfect jacket. If you want to know what info you need, ask what info you need and the right book will come to you or website link etc. If someone wants a relationship/to get laid - dont waste time looking, just ask and trust that some connection will occur and somehow out of the blue you will meet someone (I know youre married but just an example). Im innately lazy so i love asking the universe to figure shit out for me and it saves the hassle of worrying about getting things 'right' or making the 'right' choice. If you ask the right questions you will not be in any doubt that you are making the right choice, as there will not be a conflict of interests if you are clear about your intentions from the start.
Normally with buying a car im weighing up options, second guessing etc - but this felt different.

So just keep writing and thats how to re write the subconscious. Some introspection is good, but just assume the worst with regards to all areas of your belief systems and write affirmations to counter the subconscious beliefs you probably hold about money, health, energy levels, just every area you can think of and eventually (sooner than you think) the subconscious will catch on and align. The subconscious is highly impressionable - and one sentence written with deliberate intent is worth a million TV sublimminals that you may have passivley absorbed in an unconscious state. So thats why the ego resists the pencil and paper - as it recognises there lies to path to its demise :)

oh, and yeah, keep posting as this is the most relevant aspect of alkalizing.

domathy
23-08-2011, 10:21 AM
Asking for help is not weakness, but a sign of true knowledge.
Only completely deluded people believe they don't need
help. The bigger the ego, the stronger the delusion.



What is the trick about all the changes we submerge in..
If your subconciousness doesn't agree with your ego will,
it won't work.

True, so you just need to talk to the subconscious and make sure its on the same page and you can change everything. The subconscious is where all the real power lies - and if we can get the subconscious on side then there really are no limits (literally) - as i guess the subconscious is what connects to our creative faculties and higher self.

It goes from inside out, not from the sofisticated spiritual
layers we pick along the way in our life.
And it won't come from your healthy food dish,
it will be a consequence, not the cause.
Drastic changes I made in my diet over the years
have never came from convincing my self how this or that will detox me,
and how will I live more energized and more healthy.
It came from deep understanding of my needs,
mental, emotional and physical.
It is always the cost/benefit analysis,
answer to the what makes more damage question.

For me, motivation came from understanding about pros/cons of different foods along with a desire to feel healthier, but i recognised a while ago (after much struggle) that this is not enough. If one still craves something, it is more toxic to resist and spend time resisting, then feeling guilt when one 'fails' than it is to just bloody eat the thing. So that was my philosophy - if i spent even a short time thinking about a food then i would eat it - which has saved me lots of energy, but its good to uproot the issue and defeat the thing which had power over you - or rather, delete the pattern which was causing you to believe something had power over you.

And if deep down you want your cheese pizza,
Universe can't do anything about that.
If you don't want it,
than it can.
Yours is the burden of honesty to know how you feel.
And there is nothing wrong about any of those two.
Just know how it is. That's what's important. :)

True.

scottishryan
23-08-2011, 01:04 PM
WOW :eek: Some excellent posts here!

I am in full agreement here and its heartening to see such knowledge posted :)

I certainly have a refreshed attitude today too, to not just diet, habits etc but also an urge to do something! Something worthwhile and of purpose! Must be all these videos, audio's and books and the right time ;)

lighthouse
23-08-2011, 01:47 PM
WOW :eek: Some excellent posts here!

I am in full agreement here and its heartening to see such knowledge posted :)

I certainly have a refreshed attitude today too, to not just diet, habits etc but also an urge to do something! Something worthwhile and of purpose! Must be all these videos, audio's and books and the right time ;)

I hope you will find the way to balance your needs, feelings
and what you think you should do.
:)
And don't forget to enjoy the process,
even if you feel like you're failing sometimes.
It's great to ride the horse of change and constant movement,
it's beautiful as anything can be.

scottishryan
23-08-2011, 02:44 PM
I hope you will find the way to balance your needs, feelings
and what you think you should do.
:)
And don't forget to enjoy the process,
even if you feel like you're failing sometimes.
It's great to ride the horse of change and constant movement,
it's beautiful as anything can be.

Thanks lighthouse, beautiful words :)

carlperkins
24-08-2011, 11:58 AM
Okay guys, I'm in a real mess from my 50th birthday party on the weekend. My girlfriend was somewahat shocked when I revealed the true list of my consumption that night, no wonder I'm still dizzy 4 days later! The sinus problem came back with vengeance, and asthma has revealed its ugly head again. I'm becoming a "whinge drinker", moaning of the effects after doing it. I'm back on the wagon again but tomorrow I'm off to Shambala festival and imagine I'll be partying again, I have all the "presents" from my birthday to finish off. My girlfriend bought me a Phillips Juicer (as well as the holiday in Crete!) which is pretty amazing and look forward to some serious alkalising drinks when I get back to normal next week. Despite the hard core partying, it's curious to see how changes in the diet take place, like noe I find it difficult not to have watermelon and avacado with almond milk for breakfast.

Anyway, take care, see you all again next week.

domathy
26-08-2011, 11:08 PM
Okay guys, I'm in a real mess from my 50th birthday party on the weekend. My girlfriend was somewahat shocked when I revealed the true list of my consumption that night, no wonder I'm still dizzy 4 days later! The sinus problem came back with vengeance, and asthma has revealed its ugly head again. I'm becoming a "whinge drinker", moaning of the effects after doing it. I'm back on the wagon again but tomorrow I'm off to Shambala festival and imagine I'll be partying again, I have all the "presents" from my birthday to finish off. My girlfriend bought me a Phillips Juicer (as well as the holiday in Crete!) which is pretty amazing and look forward to some serious alkalising drinks when I get back to normal next week. Despite the hard core partying, it's curious to see how changes in the diet take place, like noe I find it difficult not to have watermelon and avacado with almond milk for breakfast.

Anyway, take care, see you all again next week.

Youre a naughty boy you are. You big whinge drinker you :p Your gf sounds cool, and she even lets you go to festivals :cool:

Get back on the wagon soon or youll be tea baggin' that phillips juicer - do ya hear me??

akana
26-08-2011, 11:45 PM
People are not only addicted to food, but also to sugar, and to salt.

akana
26-08-2011, 11:49 PM
what if i add pH drops to my vodka??

moods999
27-08-2011, 12:49 AM
what if i add bicarb to ayahuasca brewed with lemon juice ? :)

steve1964
27-08-2011, 01:35 AM
lol

akana
27-08-2011, 02:42 AM
And what if I smoke organic vegan-friendly non-additive tobacco? Wold that hurt me in the alkalizing process?

domathy
27-08-2011, 08:14 AM
what if i add pH drops to my vodka??

would just kill the ph drops. Youd be better off adding clay. Supposedly if you add clay to alcohol and then drink it then you dont get drunk. Dont know if thats true but i know it counters much of the toxicity.

what if i add bicarb to ayahuasca brewed with lemon juice ? :)

No, youre better off adding vodka to it :)

And what if I smoke organic vegan-friendly non-additive tobacco? Wold that hurt me in the alkalizing process?

I dont know of any tobacco thats not vegan friendly :p If you can get pure tobacco thats not been fermented in yeast and sugar then in theory it shoud be fine.

carlperkins
30-08-2011, 11:13 AM
Youre a naughty boy you are. You big whinge drinker you :p Your gf sounds cool, and she even lets you go to festivals :cool:

Get back on the wagon soon or youll be tea baggin' that phillips juicer - do ya hear me??

Got back last night, Shambala is a great festival. I completely immersed myself into the festival spirit, saw The Sonic Manipulator, Captain Grimace, The Glitzy Bag Hags (secret gig), numerous reggae ska dub dubstep klezmer bands. Now I can hardly move!

Despite the volumes of ale and partying, I still managed to keep hitting the avacados everyday. Anyway, I now gradually pull myself back on that wagon once again, pass me that juicer please....

akana
30-08-2011, 06:39 PM
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I dont know of any tobacco thats not vegan friendly :p If you can get pure tobacco thats not been fermented in yeast and sugar then in theory it shoud be fine.

oh trust me , these are !! (no animal testing_)

lighthouse
30-08-2011, 11:35 PM
Hy there, all of you.. :)

Acidising myself with beer from one little brewery in the middle of
Bosnia, neighbour country of Croatia..
I would say that you should try an alcohol that's not made
by big companies, but I don't want to poison you. :D
Besides that, I'm mostly on salads these days. :)

carlperkins
04-09-2011, 10:02 PM
Domathy, I hope you are okay, enjoy the break, thanks again for this remarkable thread, I feel it has totally changed the way I look at diet and health. My sinus has cleared significantly in the last few days, the juicer has been great. Take care....

hypnoticspectre
04-09-2011, 10:06 PM
yeh Dom where the fuk u at!!

akana
05-09-2011, 02:48 AM
yeh Dom where the fuk u at!!

he left the forum. when ppl close their account, it says 'inactive', as it also does on dom's.

darryl84
08-09-2011, 12:40 AM
This is very good, alkalising is very important for the body, the one thing this thread is missing is enzymes, enzymes are needed to digest food, no enzymes, no food digestion. Enzyme supplementation can be very useful for anybody's ability to uptake energy and nutrients. :)

mindatrisk
12-09-2011, 11:46 PM
Yep, that's why I hate AA and NA and all that stuff, because they brainwash people into thinking that they are 'powerless' over their 'disease', when in reality we ARE powerful and can overcome any addiction

This is interesting because where I work the same thinking is applied too. I don't think it is to disempower people, more to encourage them to surrender themselves to a 'higher power' i.e. God / their true nature. So it's not so much disempowering them, but more empowering their true self... I think, i'm not sure, however, as i'm not involved in that side of things.

hypnoticspectre
12-09-2011, 11:50 PM
those that try to empower the weak eventually fail, those that let themselves be always win, its a simple geometric pattern that we have forgotten.

mindatrisk
13-09-2011, 12:08 AM
those that try to empower the weak eventually fail, those that let themselves be always win, its a simple geometric pattern that we have forgotten.

What do you mean?

hypnoticspectre
13-09-2011, 12:09 AM
im just saying its time humans started getting busy..

302bluefog
21-09-2011, 03:35 AM
Great OP its gonna take me forever to read thru this thread...

carlperkins
21-09-2011, 05:42 PM
It has been a brilliant thread. I think you'll find the OP is taking a break at present.

scottishryan
24-09-2011, 07:11 PM
Think I am going to re-read this thread again! Fallen away from Alkalising and I tell you something, you feel the difference :eek:

My eating and drinking just now is pants :p:o

pacoquerak
25-09-2011, 06:03 AM
Think I am going to re-read this thread again! Fallen away from Alkalising and I tell you something, you feel the difference :eek:

My eating and drinking just now is pants :p:o

You know that your ancestors made alcoholic beverages that weren't terrible for you but rather actually healthy? They were the true Lambics, not the same as what you can buy today.

scottishryan
25-09-2011, 11:35 AM
You know that your ancestors made alcoholic beverages that weren't terrible for you but rather actually healthy? They were the true Lambics, not the same as what you can buy today.

That does not surprise me at all pacoquerak! The question is, can you still obtain it?

Well from today I am reducing my acidic foods again and seeing if I can reach the good health I was feeling a mere few weeks ago. Nice and slow though.....I am the type that if I rush to fast I slip hard :D

scottishryan
20-04-2012, 11:14 PM
Little resurrection of topic here, loads of good information in it but more importantly, anyone having good health success in following a more alkalising way of nourishment for the body?

Would love to hear some personal accounts and more tips and tricks?

:)

carlperkins
07-04-2013, 09:21 AM
I wanted to bump this as I have returned to the alkaline lifestyle again, alcohol free for 6 weeks again. What happened to Domathy? Why has he been "Banned"?

leon11
07-04-2013, 10:55 PM
I wanted to bump this as I have returned to the alkaline lifestyle again, alcohol free for 6 weeks again. What happened to Domathy? Why has he been "Banned"?

domathy is still alive and well, and he still visits the forum either as a guest or a new username im not sure which.

Alkalasing makes a lot of sense, and is a big part of this puzzle I think

Check out a guy called 'Dr Robert Cassar' on youtube for more good stuff ;)

parasites are scary. I am beginning to think they could be artificial :O