Alkalizing your body (NOW WITH PICTURES)

[plam]

Well, yes and no. The implication there is that we need our dark side in the first place (or that we cant defeat/transcend it). I personally think the dark side is a foreign installation - the reptillian brain/R-complex. They say the lizard brain allows us to respond to danger, but i believe danger only exists because of the lizard brain - PRS (problem reaction solution) in our brain. And the moon is all dark from my understanding, and is there to disrupt so is also a foreign installation (so that was an appropriate reference :)). The sun doesnt have a dark side though.

Creativity fuelled by darkness will produce dark creations - just look at the world (how we have turned it into a shite hole by allowing imbalanced intellectuals and creative people to run the place) - we have stupid inventions :rolleyes: like the internal combustion (male energy) engine - when we should be harnessing implosion (female energy). Guns, bombs, rockets (male) - big pharma (male)
I see lots of creativity and genius but its not tempered with wisdom - its used for money making and war. All my favorite amazing music was made by drug fuelled artists (house, D&B, trance etc) and i just dont resonate with it anymore. Even most 'comedy' isnt all that funny anymore. True that my biggest 'laughs' came from drug fuelled adventures - but i have had glimpses of something far better. Most of my best memories of recent years have come from living in a place of innocent playfulness and there is more to laugh about from this POV then i could ever have imagined. It was all south park ('creative genius') style laughs before - but thats so tired now.

I am an all or nothing type, but moderation is fine, if you can achieve it, but it is also possible to be very happy and balannced without ingesting poison. You can get natural highs and through yoga and meditation i have felt highs way better than any drug, plus the insights/creativity you receive is more balanced and harmonious with the will of creation. People might find you boring but thats their problem, billions of people resonating with the same thing = herd mentality. Its not lonely at the top, but its certainly less crowded :D

Indulgence is sometimes needed as, this planet is messed up and it can be hard to sustain a high vibration and high frequency diet - but its not essential for balance in the grand scheme. To poison or not to poison is a very personal thing

Good response, domathy, apart from that David Icke's voodoo stuff " I personally think the dark side is a foreign installation - the reptillian brain/R-complex.".

I'm having a wine tasting now :D so I'll have to respond later (if I can) or in three days when I come back from a wine trip to France! :D

Talk to you all later!

[domathy]

Good response, domathy, apart from that David Icke's voodoo stuff " I personally think the dark side is a foreign installation - the reptillian brain/R-complex.".

I'm having a wine tasting now :D so I'll have to respond later (if I can) or in three days when I come back from a wine trip to France! :D

Talk to you all later!

Thats cool, have an amazing time :D

Meditation wasn't so great today so im off to buy some crack :D

[leon11]

Well, yes and no. The implication there is that we need our dark side in the first place (or that we cant defeat/transcend it). I personally think the dark side is a foreign installation - the reptillian brain/R-complex. They say the lizard brain allows us to respond to danger, but i believe danger only exists because of the lizard brain - PRS (problem reaction solution) in our brain. And the moon is all dark from my understanding, and is there to disrupt so is also a foreign installation (so that was an appropriate reference :)). The sun doesnt have a dark side though.

Creativity fuelled by darkness will produce dark creations - just look at the world (how we have turned it into a shite hole by allowing imbalanced intellectuals and creative people to run the place) - we have stupid inventions :rolleyes: like the internal combustion (male energy) engine - when we should be harnessing implosion (female energy). Guns, bombs, rockets (male) - big pharma (male)
I see lots of creativity and genius but its not tempered with wisdom - its used for money making and war. All my favorite amazing music was made by drug fuelled artists (house, D&B, trance etc) and i just dont resonate with it anymore. Even most 'comedy' isnt all that funny anymore. True that my biggest 'laughs' came from drug fuelled adventures - but i have had glimpses of something far better. Most of my best memories of recent years have come from living in a place of innocent playfulness and there is more to laugh about from this POV then i could ever have imagined. It was all south park ('creative genius') style laughs before - but thats so tired now.

I am an all or nothing type, but moderation is fine, if you can achieve it, but it is also possible to be very happy and balannced without ingesting poison. You can get natural highs and through yoga and meditation i have felt highs way better than any drug, plus the insights/creativity you receive is more balanced and harmonious with the will of creation. People might find you boring but thats their problem, billions of people resonating with the same thing = herd mentality. Its not lonely at the top, but its certainly less crowded :D

Indulgence is sometimes needed as, this planet is messed up and it can be hard to sustain a high vibration and high frequency diet - but its not essential for balance in the grand scheme. To poison or not to poison is a very personal thing


wow thought provoking post.


many thoughts but, maybe the yin yang is just supposed to be white, heheh

On that note sorry for the slight tangent but, bear with me...when I was young I saw visions...which can only be described as a perfect, immaculate, white, liquid planet....and a contrasting evil/negative, dark one. Circles/orbs/planets
these two images would alternate.
I was too young to understand what yin and yang was...
I also felt strong vibrational pulses in my head...bizarre feelings of differences in scale from huge planets to tiny atoms....
what the hell was I experiencing? Has anyone here ever felt similar?


Anyways, on the original topic...I think at some point either our DNA, spirit, or this reality was poisened, polluted, manipulated...with this dark side/ r-complex.
It is a part of us whether we like it or not?

But maybe it doesnt have to be

Domathy no doubt you're enlightened, healthy, and as 'awake' a person as I have probably met...but you're still human right?! (and have dark sides)
Do you think you can really escape the dark side completely? Or is this idealism / fantasy?

Is it not our very identity and nature to have a darker, unpredictable, adventurous side (order out of chaos) as plam was describing?
Its a confusing one as I think we have been locked in this cycle for a very long time, and it has become our identity...but it doesnt have to be....

perhaps what dom is describing is a reflection of the crest of the wave in which we currently find ourselves! The pure ways are emerging again?

yeh...this thread's supposed to be about food :confused:

[silverwand]

silverwand, your compassion for the moth is really inspiring to me :)

Thanks for that Akana :D
It's so refreshing when others see the good in little things such as being concerned for a wee insect instead of the usual slagging off I normally get when I tell other people stuff like this :)

[silverwand]

I buggered it again :o I will not touch alcohol this Saturday night...shout at me if I do guys! I have been wobbling like goodness knows what the latter part of this week. At least I am up early with a nice pot of veg soup cooking away for the day :D

I need to break my bad habit cycle...Feck its hard but I will succeed :)

Yes you will :)

[domathy]

wow thought provoking post.


many thoughts but, maybe the yin yang is just supposed to be white, heheh

Yes, the yinyang represents the corrupt/hacked version of the matrix. The true matrix is something very different.

On that note sorry for the slight tangent but, bear with me...when I was young I saw visions...which can only be described as a perfect, immaculate, white, liquid planet....and a contrasting evil/negative, dark one. Circles/orbs/planets
these two images would alternate.
I was too young to understand what yin and yang was...
I also felt strong vibrational pulses in my head...bizarre feelings of differences in scale from huge planets to tiny atoms....
what the hell was I experiencing? Has anyone here ever felt similar?

Maybe you were seeing the reptillian imposed matrix program in a symbollic, or a literal energetic form? Or maybe you were just a bit 'special' :p
Anyways, on the original topic...I think at some point either our DNA, spirit, or this reality was poisened, polluted, manipulated...with this dark side/ r-complex. It is a part of us whether we like it or not?

Yes! "they gave us their mind" (clever bastards gave us the r-complex)
Plus they switched off most of our DNA strands (we have 2 instead of 12)
Also, only 10% of our brain is working (though most people dont seem to mind this, nor are even curious :mad: :D - at school i couldnt believe my ears and thats when the establishment lost me for good. To me, even at age 10 i thought our society should be revolving around getting our brains fully switched on, that should be the collective goal - but the teacher told us our brains are faulty and then was like - now onto photosynthesis :eek: :confused: - and i was like wft?)
Plus we all have 'demonic curse' programs (millions of them) in our DNA.

I believe that sacred gemoetry and silent meditaion can ovveride much of the above though.

But maybe it doesnt have to be

Domathy no doubt you're enlightened, healthy, and as 'awake' a person as I have probably met...but you're still human right?! (and have dark sides)
Do you think you can really escape the dark side completely? Or is this idealism / fantasy?

Still human? No comment :p (not sure i ever was). Yes i have dark sides, but i know its not 'me' or even a part of me - its a foreign installation. I have experienced what its like to detatch from the dark side and it felt very odd - but just because we are so used to having it. But, it is the reptillian brain which needs to know the outcome so as to feel secure - and that is why you even ask that question. Do we need a dark side? What purpose does it serve? Is life sustainable if we continue to identify and be in 'harmony' with our 'dark side'?
ffft - dont ask me :p Just talking to myself. It used to scare me (a lot) to imagine a life without my dark side (it was all i had :D) - how empty, how lonely, how boring. Not being emotionally attached to anyone/anything, no addiction, no desire, no craving - but all that stuff is a product of a disconnected soul. (sorry, if you ask me deep questions dont expect a short or necessarily correct answer)

Is it not our very identity and nature to have a darker, unpredictable, adventurous side (order out of chaos) as plam was describing?
Its a confusing one as I think we have been locked in this cycle for a very long time, and it has become our identity...but it doesnt have to be....

Darkness does not have the monopoly on adventure btw - but i know what youre saying. I dont know where you get 'unpredictable' from - humans are very predictable.
I dont know how this game works. I think (IMO & only maybe) we were once in spirit form and thought 'be nice to be physical' so wrote a program and plugged into the matrix. Everything was nicey, nicey - maybe too nice, we were experiencing physical reality but it was too dull, so the game/matrix wrote the lizards into the program (like the shamans say "the sun gave the lizards permission to go mess things up") so they came, used divide and rule - gave us the r-complex and threw everything and the kitchen sink at us. And order out of chaos as you say - and perhaps its all to challenge and mave us evolve. Perhaps we stagnated - and in that sense, the darkness was needed to stick the firework up bum and afford us a wider range of experiences to add to the collective data base. So, we need to overcome the darkness and return to nicey nicey la-la land, but with the benefit of our new knowledge and experiences gained from this experience. Who knows - again its the R-complex that needs to know the outcome. Reminds me of the bumper sticker "dont follow, me im lost". But, I know the dark side is foreign. It may have been necessary in the grand scheme, but i think the move toward unconditional love is where were we shold be going atm.

perhaps what dom is describing is a reflection of the crest of the wave in which we currently find ourselves! The pure ways are emerging again?

yeh...this thread's supposed to be about food :confused:

:confused:

[domathy]

I used to be worried about us all being 'one'.

When people say we are all one it sounded really boring. But, ironically, humans today all homogonised and almost identical. Like sheep, its hard to tell one human from another (apart from us great folk on DIF or course)

To be one means expressing and celebrating our uniqueness but within much wider parameters - not the tiny box we are currently squeezed into. In our empowered state, a blink of an eye would be more dynamic and profound than even the most enlightned within the current mutant matrix.

[akana]

I used to be worried about us all being 'one'.

When people say we are all one it sounded really boring. But, ironically, humans today all homogonised and almost identical. Like sheep, its hard to tell one human from another (apart from us great folk on DIF or course)

To be one means expressing and celebrating our uniqueness but within much wider parameters - not the tiny box we are currently squeezed into. In our empowered state, a blink of an eye would be more dynamic and profound than even the most enlightned within the current mutant matrix.

One love, One Aim.

[domathy]

One love, One Aim.

And love to you akana :D

[akana]

And love to you akana :D

Thank you. Much love to Domathy. Blessigns of Health n Strength to you and your family.

EDIT: Have you ever, domathy, read up on ADF - Alternate Day Fast ? I was following that protocol before alkalizing.

[carlperkins]

Hiya
Im still off the booze, coffee, tea, dairy and I'm starting to buy more green things and avacadoes to eat, okra, slad stuff etc. My night time sneezing fits have stopped, but the blocked sinus pesists, I have black rings under my eyes from broken sleepas a result. I found Perrier water with a slice of lime is nice to drink when all my friends are drinking cocktails, and it really is nice not to drink alcohol, I'm now questioning why I ever did in the first place which is very intersting.

I'd really like to ask about breakfast in a bit more detail.

So, maybe find a gluten free cereal and use soya or rice milk. Keep the dried fruit if you need to but reduce the amount to add to the cereal. If you want fruit juice you need to drink it at least 15 or 20 mins before you have cereal else it will interfere with digestion.


I'd like to eat this:

Chopped up dates, figs, soaked and peeled almonds, chopped apple, banana, strawberry, raspberry. (No cereal) This would have apple juice poured on it as I don't like milk, then pumpkin seed sprinkled on top with greek yogurt and honey.

I've already stopped the yogurt and honey, and understand that the strawberries and raspberries are high in sugar and I am using smaller quantities of them.

What do you think? Too much sugar? Could you suggest modifications of the fruits that may have less sugar?


CP

PS What do you all eat for breakfast?

[jconnar]

Meditation wasn't so great today so im off to buy some crack :D

lol I laughed

[domathy]

Hiya
Im still off the booze, coffee, tea, dairy and I'm starting to buy more green things and avacadoes to eat, okra, slad stuff etc. My night time sneezing fits have stopped, but the blocked sinus pesists, I have black rings under my eyes from broken sleepas a result. I found Perrier water with a slice of lime is nice to drink when all my friends are drinking cocktails, and it really is nice not to drink alcohol, I'm now questioning why I ever did in the first place which is very intersting.

Hey great work. Just keep eating more avocados (can eat 4 or 5 per day) plus steamed .veg and ideally some raw veg. Even just a few small mouthfulls of raw veg per day is really worth making the effort with - youll notice a difference. Just make sure to chew raw veg until it is totally dissolved (may need to chew it even 100 times if necesssary) as your body isnt used to raw veg so needs to be chewed thoroughly. Prerrier and lemon is a good substitute. I'd really like to ask about breakfast in a bit more detail. The lemonade with bicarb is a good option too if your at home. Yeah, once you start getting healthy people often realise what theyre not missing out on where drink is concerned, that shows you on the right track. Have you tried neti before? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9i6x6uGm2k
I do this quite a lot.


I'd like to eat this:

Chopped up dates, figs, soaked and peeled almonds, chopped apple, banana, strawberry, raspberry. (No cereal) This would have apple juice poured on it as I don't like milk, then pumpkin seed sprinkled on top with greek yogurt and honey.

I've already stopped the yogurt and honey, and understand that the strawberries and raspberries are high in sugar and I am using smaller quantities of them.

What do you think? Too much sugar? Could you suggest modifications of the fruits that may have less sugar?


CP

PS What do you all eat for breakfast?

Generally its best to not mix fruit with grains. So you could have gluten free cereal with soya/rice/almond/oat milk with maybe some soaked nuts and seeds on top.

Or, if you really want fruit on the cereal/porridge then soak the dried fruit overnight in water in the fridge so the fruits swells up and some of the sugar ends up in the soak water.

If you want to have just fruit for breakfast then try to avoid combining too much fruit in one meal.

Try this for breakfast:
Sliced avocado and papaya with lime juice squeezed all over it.
or avocado and banana.
or mixed berries (strawberries and blueberries and raspberries) as berries are lower in sugar than other fruits.
Avocado is great as it slows the relaese of sugar and helps with digesting the fruit without producing acidity. ALso, by having avocado, papaya and lime you have fat, sweet and acid - so the flavour is rounded and will be satisfying to eat. Sounds wierd but ive not met one person who doesnt like that combo.

[equidancer]

Just want to say a huge thankyou domathy for sharing this valuable information

[akana]

Just want to say a huge thankyou domathy for sharing this valuable information

I'm with you on that note
Thank you!

a question: is it advisable to store grains in the fridge?

oh, and does anyone have a link which tells how to properly combine foods upon eating?

[lighthouse]

I buggered it again :o I will not touch alcohol this Saturday night...shout at me if I do guys! I have been wobbling like goodness knows what the latter part of this week. At least I am up early with a nice pot of veg soup cooking away for the day :D

I need to break my bad habit cycle...Feck its hard but I will succeed :)

I don't want to be negative about this,
but supressing your desires will make more damage
to your body than alcohol ever could.

Five hours of being sad or angry can make you ill.
Five beers in a good company will just make you happy.
What you take inside can determine how you feel,
but how you feel determines everything.
Your concioussnes is above your food intake.

Otherwise healthy eaters would live forever,
and never got sick.
Don't get me wrong, I'm careful with my eating,
and listening to my body.
But it's not wise to make that the religion of your life,
and let it take control over it.

[domathy]

I don't want to be negative about this,
but supressing your desires will make more damage
to your body than alcohol ever could.

Five hours of being sad or angry can make you ill.
Five beers in a good company will just make you happy.
What you take inside can determine how you feel,
but how you feel determines everything.
Your concioussnes is above your food intake.

Otherwise healthy eaters would live forever,
and never got sick.
Don't get me wrong, I'm careful with my eating,
and listening to my body.
But it's not wise to make that the religion of your life,
and let it take control over it.

I agree, guilt is a powerful emotion that can cause far more damage than any food or drink. Emotional stress can cause 3 x more acid (hydrochloric acid) than any food/drink. (hey, i think we've had this conversation before :))

But, breaking habits is a personal thing. A rapist might be 'listening to his body' for example. I know thats an extreme example - but my point is we all know where we want to be and what we need to conquor.

With habits, it is soo important not to punish yourself. Sometimes (as i have said many times before and as scottishryan has said himself) that you need to go backwards to go forwards. Scottishryan also knows that by drinking booze - its not even a step backwards, but rather a slightly smaller step forward than usual. But, i understand the frustration, and that is a legitimate part of the process too as there are lessons to be gained within feeling frustration.

When trying to achieve anything, there will be failures and frustrations en route - but its a case of constantly dusting yourself off and trying again.
Scottishryan has 'succeeded' a percentage of the time - and that needs to be recognised instead of saying its only a success if he has quit 100%. The most successful people in the world are often the ones who have failed more than anyone else. The only way to avoid failure is to never even try.

There are people on very healthy diets but who have wrotten thinking and pollute themselves and the planet with bad vibes - and thats not health either.

There are people like in autobiography of a yogi who live of coffee and cigarettes but can transmute toxins due to their high vibration.

[domathy]

Just want to say a huge thankyou domathy for sharing this valuable information

Your'e very welcome :)

I'm with you on that note
Thank you!

Your'e very welcome :)

a question: is it advisable to store grains in the fridge?

Im not sure about that tbh. Might be a good idea if your kitchen is hot/steamy.
But just making sure they are airtight and you have a quick turnaround of food in your kitchen is a good plan.
oh, and does anyone have a link which tells how to properly combine foods upon eating?

Just a google search should answer that. But, i will look later today when i have more time.

[lighthouse]

I agree, guilt is a powerful emotion that can cause far more damage than any food or drink. Emotional stress can cause 3 x more acid (hydrochloric acid) than any food/drink. (hey, i think we've had this conversation before :))

...

I was just trying to say that obsession with food,
no matter what form it takes, is an eating disorder,
rather than "changing of the habits".
And when one constantly thinks what he's going to eat or drink,
how and when, that's an obssesion.

[domathy]

I was just trying to say that obsession with food,
no matter what form it takes, is an eating disorder,
rather than "changing of the habits".
And when one constantly thinks what he's going to eat or drink,
how and when, that's an obssesion.

I agree.
Ryan though is a real inspiration as he lost a massive amount of weight whilst still eating and drinking all his favorite foods.

[lighthouse]

I agree.
Ryan though is a real inspiration as he lost a massive amount of weight whilst still eating and drinking all his favorite foods.

I had a same experience as him, and never got a pound back.
And I'm not refering to him personally. :)

But I know many people in veggie/healthy eating that
destroy the overall quality of their lives constantly obssesing with food.

However, good thread. ;)

[stillwakingup]

It depends on the day but generally something like this,

6am ish Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
oil/fats then food (followed by a pinch of mag oxide in small glass of water)
Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
oil/fats then food (followed by a pinch of mag oxide in small glass of water)
Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
oil/fats then food (followed by a pinch of mag oxide in small glass of water)
Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)

Something like that.

When i started all this i was drinking 10 litres of greens per day :eek: plus all the colloidal vit/mineral capsules that Dr Young sells. Spent a bomb.

Ideally its best to eat little and often.

Hope that helps :)

Thanks Dom,jez thats a lot of water ( does this require a nappy to get anything done :)) Where do you buy this stuff from??

[akana]

How to make Green Juice , using a blender

Juicing green juice with average blender & paint strainer - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZnXT1r88k

I love doing this, much more efficient that a juicer (when juicing green leafy vegetables)

[domathy]

I had a same experience as him, and never got a pound back.
And I'm not refering to him personally. :)

But I know many people in veggie/healthy eating that
destroy the overall quality of their lives constantly obssesing with food.

However, good thread. ;)

Cool, well done. :)
YEah, I know so many people that get funny and obsessive about food. They will never be healthy regardless of what they eat. Unfortunately, people who are just wanting to eat healthy sometimes get tarred with the same brush. People assume Im depriving myself but i really like how i eat

Thanks Dom,jez thats a lot of water ( does this require a nappy to get anything done :)) Where do you buy this stuff from??

No nappy needed :p If you drink good water your bladder can hold it for longer.
Bicarb from a pharmacy (boots dont sell it)
mag oxide from ebay or online
Im going to do a post on greens but i can send info with attachments if you email on all-about-energy@hotmail.co.uk. Most greens in shops are freezedried or have bulking ingredients like 'friendly' bacteria and enzymes and and there is lots of junk around. Like i say, i will try to do a proper post on this next week.

How to make Green Juice , using a blender

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZnXT1r88k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZnXT1r88k

I love doing this, much more efficient that a juicer (when juicing green leafy vegetables)

Great vid. Blending is really good. Dr YOung reccomends lots of greens smoothies. To fully heal the small intestine some people spend 2 or 3 months on greens smoothies made from good fats and leafy greens.

[leon11]

does avacado compliment / combine with all veg?

so for example I could do avacado and spinach smoothies, with celery, cucumber, etc...

but not so good to combine the above, with banana or apple juice say


btw apparently uplifting singer James Mraz bought an avacado farm with some of his money! (he's very healthy living you see) ;)

[domathy]

does avacado compliment / combine with all veg?

so for example I could do avacado and spinach smoothies, with celery, cucumber, etc...

but not so good to combine the above, with banana or apple juice say


btw apparently uplifting singer James Mraz bought an avacado farm with some of his money! (he's very healthy living you see) ;)

Until this post, you'd done 474 (47 x 2) posts :)
Avo comliments all food.
Yep, that smoothie will work nicely. Use a carrot peeler to peel the rough outside edge of the celery (takes 2 secs)
I want an avo farm with maybe almond trees and lemon trees too.
I trained at Dr youngs place and he lives on a big avocado ranch up in the mountains - i did feel some jealousy :mad:

[domathy]

Get this Cat some lemons Stat.

http://vampjac.com/lj/humor/lolcat/2008/lemon.jpg

Love this post btw :)

[leon11]

Until this post, you'd done 474 (47 x 2) posts :) stop it!!
Avo comliments all food. but you still shouldnt put banana or other fruits in with spinach and cucumber etc, right...? sorry!
Yep, that smoothie will work nicely. Use a carrot peeler to peel the rough outside edge of the celery (takes 2 secs) will do ;)
I want an avo farm with maybe almond trees and lemon trees too.
I trained at Dr youngs place and he lives on a big avocado ranch up in the mountains - i did feel some jealousy :mad:
I'll start a copper jar :D

I need to find a good organic avacado dealer as I read they can be grown in dodgy environments and are prone to various diseases...

me need good avacados (y)

I tried sun gazing the other day btw...I started off with my eyes almost closed, then very gradually opened them. I was amazed as doin it this way... by the end I was staring right at the sun with eyes wide open, and they were not watering or hurting at all! :confused:

[domathy]

I'll start a copper jar :D

I need to find a good organic avacado dealer as I read they can be grown in dodgy environments and are prone to various diseases...

me need good avacados (y)

I tried sun gazing the other day btw...I started off with my eyes almost closed, then very gradually opened them. I was amazed as doin it this way... by the end I was staring right at the sun with eyes wide open, and they were not watering or hurting at all! :confused:

I didnt know about the dodgy avo thing - dont suppose you have a link for that?

Well done on the gazing - just make sure you do it during the 1st hr after sunrise and the last hr before sunset.

[akana]

Cool, well done. :)
YEah, I know so many people that get funny and obsessive about food. They will never be healthy regardless of what they eat. Unfortunately, people who are just wanting to eat healthy sometimes get tarred with the same brush. People assume Im depriving myself but i really like how i eat



No nappy needed :p If you drink good water your bladder can hold it for longer.
Bicarb from a pharmacy (boots dont sell it)
mag oxide from ebay or online
Im going to do a post on greens but i can send info with attachments if you email on all-about-energy@hotmail.co.uk. Most greens in shops are freezedried or have bulking ingredients like 'friendly' bacteria and enzymes and and there is lots of junk around. Like i say, i will try to do a proper post on this next week.



Great vid. Blending is really good. Dr YOung reccomends lots of greens smoothies. To fully heal the small intestine some people spend 2 or 3 months on greens smoothies made from good fats and leafy greens.


okay, but i dont drink green smothies, only green juice as that video does - strain out all the gunk out with a nut-milk bag

[domathy]

okay, but i dont drink green smothies, only green juice as that video does - strain out all the gunk out with a nut-milk bag

Technically, for juicing, the best method is the use a masticating juicer like a samson as it doesnt destroy so much nutrients:

http://youtu.be/QtUzsSyhtPY

as opposed to blending or using a juicer like this:
http://youtu.be/3bRw0SubNVw

Which generally create more heat and tends to smash the nutrients a bit more.

[akana]

Technically, for juicing, the best method is the use a masticating juicer like a samson as it doesnt destroy so much nutrients:

http://youtu.be/QtUzsSyhtPY

as opposed to blending or using a juicer like this:
http://youtu.be/3bRw0SubNVw

Which generally create more heat and tends to smash the nutrients a bit more.

my juicer is only 1 horsepower, 1 speed, and small feed-tube, not the best for greens

so blender is the only option for me rite now

what do u mean it destroyes nutrients?

[leon11]

okay, but i dont drink green smothies, only green juice as that video does - strain out all the gunk out with a nut-milk bag

whats wrong with the gunk?! :)

surely theres more nutrition in smoothies than juices...?

[akana]

whats wrong with the gunk?! :)

surely theres more nutrition in smoothies than juices...?

the 'gunk' is fiber, which is techincally non-digestible

so juicing is the same thing as eating the vegetable, minus the fiber

[leon11]

Technically, for juicing, the best method is the use a masticating juicer like a samson as it doesnt destroy so much nutrients:

http://youtu.be/QtUzsSyhtPY

as opposed to blending or using a juicer like this:
http://youtu.be/3bRw0SubNVw

Which generally create more heat and tends to smash the nutrients a bit more.

so blenders arent too great either?!

nice vegetation there ;)

[leon11]

the 'gunk' is fiber, which is techincally non-digestible

so juicing is the same thing as eating the vegetable, minus the fiber


I was not aware of that!

thank you!

[leon11]

I didnt know about the dodgy avo thing - dont suppose you have a link for that?

Well done on the gazing - just make sure you do it during the 1st hr after sunrise and the last hr before sunset.

oops I did it at 4pm....I can still see for now tho :eek:

I dont have my browsing history as it was on another computer but the site I was reading was basically expanding on what it says on wiki:

"Avocado trees are vulnerable to bacterial, viral, fungal and nutritional diseases (excesses and deficiencies of key minerals). Disease can affect all parts of the plant, causing spotting, rotting, cankers, pitting and discoloration."

most Avacados I am able to buy are very spotted / pitted so I presume on some level that they are diseased..?
am I getting it confused?!

I need good avacados, they are my friends... =)

[lulushka8]

fibre's important if you're constipated though, you still have to eat some vegetables. :D

[akana]

fibre's important if you're constipated though, you still have to eat some vegetables. :D

Yep for sure - or the use of milled flax - works like a charm, also has fiber, and it retains moisture in the intestinal tract, and the waste is easily expelled

[leon11]

fibre's important if you're constipated though, you still have to eat some vegetables. :D

thats what I thought?!

Im confused =D

[domathy]

Juicing has its place as you can drink a whole ton of veg in one glass - whereas if you ate the veg whole or blended would take you a whole day.

Blending is great as you get all the beneficial fibre (soluble and insoluble) plus it fills you up. Dr Young reccomends blending using avocado as a base, so you get lots of fats and good calories from the fats.

Juicing is great, and is a great way to detox, but you need to know what youre doing with juice fasting as you can lose weight and run low on fats. Also its a good way of concentrating nutrients if you have deficiencies of need more nutrients.

I reccomend if someone really wants to sort their health - to have lots of avocado shakes, and also have juices (or wheatgrass powders) inbetween.

When someone is really healthy and in balance, juicing can be a valuable tool when used responsibly.

Blenders do smash the nutrients a bit as generates heat with friction - masticating juicers are best for juicing. You can buy expensive blenders like the vitamix where you control the speed.

But akana, the method using the hemp milk bag is fine, but it depends what youre trying to achieve. I would say a green smoothie with avo as a base is a good idea too.

Leon11 - love the avatar :D :D

[leon11]

love the avatar :D :D

:cool:

thanks for the clarification :)

[akana]

We just bought 40-something Florida avocados - the BIG ones, so we will be set for at least a month

I drink 2-3 green juices per day, where the whole blender is filled up with the greens, and then strained out

Other than that, I eat whole vegetables, with the exception of the juice of 1 carrot. I love juicing that 1 carrot XD

and I eat milled flaxseed, so my fiber intake is ok. as far as fats, i take 1-3 tablespoons of organic virgin cold-pressed coconut oil, and/or raw almond milk

i also make fresh-squeezed lemonade and limeade with stevia.

what else can i do to be more alkaline?

(i already eat no fruit, no sugar, no dairy))

[plam]

Technically, for juicing, the best method is the use a masticating juicer like a samson as it doesnt destroy so much nutrients:

http://youtu.be/QtUzsSyhtPY

as opposed to blending or using a juicer like this:
http://youtu.be/3bRw0SubNVw

Which generally create more heat and tends to smash the nutrients a bit more.

These two guys make juicing look like it's some rock'n'roll concert! :D

Juicing is wrong. Chew your vegetables. Chewing is very important aspect of eating and actually has a soothing effect.

[akana]

Juicing is not wrong. Juicing is a great tool to add nutrition to your already-chewed vegetables.

[akana]

Domathy - I finally found some easy to understand food-combining charts, available in download PDF form

http://acidalkalinediet.com/foodcombiningchart.pdf

http://acidalkalinediet.com/listofalkalinefoods.pdf

[akana]

Question: If all sugars are harmful, then what about the fact that all fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes convert their various carbohydrates to simple sugars. (Complex carbs => simple carbs)?

[plam]

Juicing is not wrong. Juicing is a great tool to add nutrition to your already-chewed vegetables.

How does that work?

You throw out 3/4 of the vegetables/fruits, have you noticed? ;)

[akana]

How does that work?

You throw out 3/4 of the vegetables/fruits, have you noticed? ;)

Just the fiber gunk. If you get fiber from other sources, this should be fine. And this is exactly how it works! You can't possibly eat that much veggies, but you can drink a shitload of veggie juice.

[plam]

Just the fiber gunk. If you get fiber from other sources, this should be fine. And this is exactly how it works! You can't possibly eat that much veggies, but you can drink a shitload of veggie juice.

Question is why do you need to eat so much vegetables? Do you think the more you put in the body, the more it will absorb?

[akana]

Question is why do you need to eat so much vegetables? Do you think the more you put in the body, the more it will absorb?

Vegetables now make up 80% of my daily meals. an 80/20 ratio of alkaline vs acidic foods, which is the purpose of this thread.

[plam]

Vegetables now make up 80% of my daily meals. an 80/20 ratio of alkaline vs acidic foods, which is the purpose of this thread.

If it works for you then it's fine! ;)

[akana]

If it works for you then it's fine! ;)

thanks! honestly i dont know what works. my skin is still really dry. i figured id give this a shot, with a combination of good use of fats/oils.

[domathy]

We just bought 40-something Florida avocados - the BIG ones, so we will be set for at least a month

I drink 2-3 green juices per day, where the whole blender is filled up with the greens, and then strained out

Other than that, I eat whole vegetables, with the exception of the juice of 1 carrot. I love juicing that 1 carrot XD

and I eat milled flaxseed, so my fiber intake is ok. as far as fats, i take 1-3 tablespoons of organic virgin cold-pressed coconut oil, and/or raw almond milk

i also make fresh-squeezed lemonade and limeade with stevia.

what else can i do to be more alkaline?

(i already eat no fruit, no sugar, no dairy))

Its good to buy avos in bulk - do you know that to ripen them just put them in a brown paper bag and put in a dark cupboard? The avos reabsorb their own gasses and ripen quicker.

3 juices is great (and carrot juice is lovely :))

Lemonade is great - do you add bicarb too?

Well done for not eating fruit, sugar or dairy.

Regarding fats; coconut oil is omega 9 - so you need to get omega 3&6 so id suggest getting a bottle of Udo's oil.

On the whole your diet is very good - provided you are eating enough calories and dont have underlying health problems.

You should use salt too, but make sure its whole, unprocessed salt.

Supplements are useful - but good ones can be expensive.

Drinking the right kind of water is important - ideally ionized water.

I hear this is a very good recepie book:

http://www.energiseforlife.com/alkaline-diet-recipe-book-jw

Ayway, sounds like you are doing really very well.
How long have you been eating a clean diet? HAve you noticed any changes in your health?

[domathy]

thanks! honestly i dont know what works. my skin is still really dry. i figured id give this a shot, with a combination of good use of fats/oils.

If your skins dry you need omega 3&6 - about 6 - 8 tbs per day.

[akana]

If your skins dry you need omega 3&6 - about 6 - 8 tbs per day.

I have been eating a ton of flax seed (milled) with every meal for over a year. does this mean the n-3 is pushing out the n-6 in the body, as Udo states in his book? he once said in an interview, that after supplementation of only flax oil, him and his coworkers started to have an n6 deficiency and began to have dry, papery skin. this is what im experiencing.

i need to get my n-6 back up, i assume.

[akana]

http://www.energiseforlife.com/alkaline-diet-recipe-book-jw

Ayway, sounds like you are doing really very well.
How long have you been eating a clean diet? HAve you noticed any changes in your health?

thanks! i do add bicarb. thanks for the link too

[scottishryan]

How does that work?

You throw out 3/4 of the vegetables/fruits, have you noticed? ;)

Yes the fibre which is incorporated in other meals throughout the day....Green Juices get the nutrients straight into the blood stream without going through the process of the body working hard top break down the foods. It also gives you an almighty energy lift in the morning, far surpassing any coffee or stimulated drinks....I am sure that since you are advocating its wrong you have investigated and tried it for yourself though? of course :)

[scottishryan]

How does that work?

You throw out 3/4 of the vegetables/fruits, have you noticed? ;)

Yes the fibre which is incorporated in other meals throughout the day....Green Juices get the nutrients straight into the blood stream without going through the process of the body working hard top break down the foods. It also gives you an almighty energy lift in the morning, far surpassing any coffee or stimulated drinks....I am sure that since you are advocating its wrong you have investigated and tried it for yourself though? of course :)

[domathy]

These two guys make juicing look like it's some rock'n'roll concert! :D

Juicing is wrong. Chew your vegetables. Chewing is very important aspect of eating and actually has a soothing effect.

She never said she doesnt eat?? :confused:
So, youve never had a glass of OJ?
Just cos people juice greens doenst mean you need to get your knickers in a twist :p

Question is why do you need to eat so much vegetables? Do you think the more you put in the body, the more it will absorb?

By juicing you concentrate nutrients. You can convert pounds of veg into one glass of juice.

Where do you get all your minerals from? From food maybe?
Well, the topsoil is virtually dead, so you need to eat about 10 x the amount of veg per day than is physically possibe, just to avoid mineral deficiency.
If you just want to plod through life then thats fine, but you shouldnt try to hold others back. Most people are deficient in minerals and other nutrients and juicing is a great way to address the issue. Maybe you should stick to your porn threads :p

[domathy]

I have been eating a ton of flax seed (milled) with every meal for over a year. does this mean the n-3 is pushing out the n-6 in the body, as Udo states in his book? he once said in an interview, that after supplementation of only flax oil, him and his coworkers started to have an n6 deficiency and began to have dry, papery skin. this is what im experiencing.

i need to get my n-6 back up, i assume.

You read his book? Thats impressive ;) Its not an easy read (for me anyway :p) But yes thats what i think is happening.
ALso , im not sure but i reckon the oil in the milled flax wond be as good as cold pressed oil due to freshness - but the milled flax is good for fibre. MAybe soak hemp seeds as they have the perfect ratio of omega 3&6 for the blood. Or just use udos oil (i eat 4 tbs soaked hemp seed per day plus a few tbs of Udos oil too)

thanks! i do add bicarb. thanks for the link too
Ill check out that food combining link you posted in a mo - my compooter's a bit slow for some reason.

Yes the fibre which is incorporated in other meals throughout the day....Green Juices get the nutrients straight into the blood stream without going through the process of the body working hard top break down the foods. It also gives you an almighty energy lift in the morning, far surpassing any coffee or stimulated drinks....I am sure that since you are advocating its wrong you have investigated and tried it for yourself though? of course :)

hehe you posted twice :p Was worth repeating though.

How was your weekend? :)

[akana]

You read his book? Thats impressive ;) Its not an easy read (for me anyway :p) But yes thats what i think is happening.
ALso , im not sure but i reckon the oil in the milled flax wond be as good as cold pressed oil due to freshness - but the milled flax is good for fibre. MAybe soak hemp seeds as they have the perfect ratio of omega 3&6 for the blood. Or just use udos oil (i eat 4 tbs soaked hemp seed per day plus a few tbs of Udos oil too)


lol, it's been a while. from the book and the interview, it really was contradictory as to what he was saying, because for example in the book he mentioned a great deal of fish oil use, whereas in the interview, he said it was more of a scam because there wasn't enough data to show that the body is not capable of converting the omegas into EHA/DPA .

also, im sure that the use of his oil is beneficial, but that cannot be bought online, as it requires refrigeration. ill have to find a health store that sells it and stores it properly. meanwhile, guess ill have to get some krill oil, primrose oil, and the hemp seeds. thanks for the tip about hemp

[leon11]

oops I did it at 4pm....I can still see for now tho :eek:

I dont have my browsing history as it was on another computer but the site I was reading was basically expanding on what it says on wiki:

"Avocado trees are vulnerable to bacterial, viral, fungal and nutritional diseases (excesses and deficiencies of key minerals). Disease can affect all parts of the plant, causing spotting, rotting, cankers, pitting and discoloration."

most Avacados I am able to buy are very spotted / pitted so I presume on some level that they are diseased..?
am I getting it confused?!


whats your thoughts on this domathy?

[scottishryan]

I sell alcohol for a living, mostly natural wines and let me tell you, you guilty conscious about it is what makes it harder for you to control your habits.

I only drink a 2-3 glasses of natural wine with my dinner that's all. And it could be weeks without drinking any. I do taste a lot though but also spit it.

Moderate amount of alcohol is no harm. But like with pain you need to feel your cravings for it and acknowledge it to yourself, and do not come here to report as if this is some alcoholics anonymous group.

You need to deal with it on your own and start by not feeling guilty about it. ;)

Ahhh you sell alcohol for a living and advising me not to post as if some AA group :rolleyes::D:p Maybe next I will take some herbal advice from the pharmaceutical companies, Climate change advice from BP and dental advice from the sugar industry...I jest :p

You make some sense in your posting and I am aware of how cravings, habits and mindeset works....I was sharing friendly information with people I respect and hoping that if others feel the same way as I, my opening up like a book and working through my own problems may inspire and assist.

Alcohol can become a terrible habit or worse and by reducing it significantly, It can assist in optimal health. The knock on affect from a nights consumption can set people back a day or two as they feel lethargic and make poor choices food wise.

Like anything, you can successfully have it in your lifestyle and partake without getting blootered. I tend to drink till drunk, a habit formed when enjoying myself growing up..I do not swirl it around my mouth and taste favours...feck the flavours...I just drink it and smile.

Anywho, good points you brought up dude ;)

A different approach may be to look for healthier approaches and slowly work towards the goals...what we resit does persist after-all :D

[scottishryan]

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hehe you posted twice :p Was worth repeating though.

How was your weekend? :)

Hahahaha Yeah the site was on a go slow earlier :D I actually gave up and never knew if it actually posted or not.

I have not had a good fortnight to be honest but it has not stopped me pushing on. It does not help that I have had toothache on and off since last Wednesday and I hate dentists so will not go (natural remedies wanted folks)

I am quietly watching video after video on this subject, visiting websites, cooking new things and keeping my head down and focused.

Made a lovely dish this morning in my rice cooker.....

Millet, Organic Peas, Sweetcorn, Turmeric, Garlic and mixed herbs & sea salt.

Came out lovely and was a new try for me...I actually had some for breakfast in a bowl on top of a crunchy well seasoned salad yummmmm Guess what I am having for dinner!! :p

Alcohol wise I am releasing any thoughts on just now, ideally I will go for the least damaging to my goals so any suggestion on the best if partaking once a week would be nice, a transitional thing if you get my point :). Realistically though, bad food choices and low self-esteem the day after is resulting so its an area I need to address. My head and study is returning to a few audio books to look at habits again so I can then construct plans to work through at leas this one so all good.

I have decided to dedicate my free time to really diving into the whole alkaline way of life by sourcing information on the net and in the book shops. there is something great to it all...its also answered a great question I had when I lost all my weight...how can you consume 3000-4000 calories and still lose weight? now is it all to do with acid/alkaline and do calories really count.....things I am playing with mentally ;)

[domathy]

lol, it's been a while. from the book and the interview, it really was contradictory as to what he was saying, because for example in the book he mentioned a great deal of fish oil use, whereas in the interview, he said it was more of a scam because there wasn't enough data to show that the body is not capable of converting the omegas into EHA/DPA .

I think its true that the body must work to convert plant oils, so for really ill people it might be wise to use fish oil until they are stronger - but im not too sure. My body doesnt like fish oil, hemp is the best for me. (just drank half a pint of hemp milk mmmm)

also, im sure that the use of his oil is beneficial, but that cannot be bought online, as it requires refrigeration. ill have to find a health store that sells it and stores it properly. meanwhile, guess ill have to get some krill oil, primrose oil, and the hemp seeds. thanks for the tip about hemp



whats your thoughts on this domathy?


yeah there are some dodgy avos about, some have brown streaks and wierd fibrous stuff inside. Im very good at spotting healthy looking avos now though.... the one in your avatar looks okay So, is this saying that even avos that look and taste good, may be bad somehow? Ill see if i cn shed more light. On a side note, i saw a prog on telly about farmed fish, and lots of fish in supermarkets (in USA mostly i think) comes from fish farms and some in vietnam and places have fish being raised in raw sewage and other nasties :p its a lovely world :)

Ahhh you sell alcohol for a living and advising me not to post as if some AA group : Maybe next I will take some herbal advice from the pharmaceutical companies, Climate change advice from BP and dental advice from the sugar industry...I jest

You make some sense in your posting and I am aware of how cravings, habits and mindeset works....I was sharing friendly information with people I respect and hoping that if others feel the same way as I, my opening up like a book and working through my own problems may inspire and assist.

Alcohol can become a terrible habit or worse and by reducing it significantly, It can assist in optimal health. The knock on affect from a nights consumption can set people back a day or two as they feel lethargic and make poor choices food wise.

Like anything, you can successfully have it in your lifestyle and partake without getting blootered. I tend to drink till drunk, a habit formed when enjoying myself growing up..I do not swirl it around my mouth and taste favours...feck the flavours...I just drink it and smile.

Anywho, good points you brought up dude

A different approach may be to look for healthier approaches and slowly work towards the goals...what we resit does persist after-all


Hahahaha Yeah the site was on a go slow earlier I actually gave up and never knew if it actually posted or not.

I have not had a good fortnight to be honest but it has not stopped me pushing on. It does not help that I have had toothache on and off since last Wednesday and I hate dentists so will not go (natural remedies wanted folks)

I am quietly watching video after video on this subject, visiting websites, cooking new things and keeping my head down and focused.

Made a lovely dish this morning in my rice cooker.....

Millet, Organic Peas, Sweetcorn, Turmeric, Garlic and mixed herbs & sea salt.

Came out lovely and was a new try for me...I actually had some for breakfast in a bowl on top of a crunchy well seasoned salad yummmmm Guess what I am having for dinner!!

Alcohol wise I am releasing any thoughts on just now, ideally I will go for the least damaging to my goals so any suggestion on the best if partaking once a week would be nice, a transitional thing if you get my point. Realistically though, bad food choices and low self-esteem the day after is resulting so its an area I need to address. My head and study is returning to a few audio books to look at habits again so I can then construct plans to work through at leas this one so all good.

I have decided to dedicate my free time to really diving into the whole alkaline way of life by sourcing information on the net and in the book shops. there is something great to it all...its also answered a great question I had when I lost all my weight...how can you consume 3000-4000 calories and still lose weight? now is it all to do with acid/alkaline and do calories really count.....things I am playing with mentally ;)

Yeah its frustrating when you really want to drop old habits. Its annoying cos youve told your brain that booze aint what you want and then your brain overrides and ignores you :p (naughty brain)
So you just need to out fox it and break the habits but do it in your own time and in a relaxed way. Just put effort into building good habits and really recognise how far youve come. I mean eating the millet dish above is a vast improvment on what you were doing before so you need to recognise that and reward yourself accordingly. Who knows, what you are doing atm may well be perfect, and there you are being impatient and being hard on yourself :p
Youre like me in the sense you dont drink to savour the taste - but try to savour your transition from your old lifestyle to your new one. I see people all the time who rush to a 100% alkaline diet but very rarely do they sustain it properly. Its best to make small changes over time which last. SO keep immersing yourself and educating yourself, and keep finding new recepies that you like. Its a pain in the ass when it feels like snakes and ladders and you just want to get to the top and feel the buzz of being healthy - but your real work is to pick yourself up each time and keep positive and focussed on how you want to feel. Or something like that anyway :p

I know that clove oil is good for tooth ache - but im not too sure tbh. Maybe soemone else on here will be more use :)

[lulushka8]

here's a site with some alkalising recipes for those looking for meal examples. :D

http://www.energiseforlife.com/wordpress/category/alkaline-recipes/

[carlperkins]

Hiya
I don't care if this thread sounds a bit AA meetingish at times, it is part of the process toward an alkaline diet to stop boozing. I'm now in my fifth week of being totally booze free and I'm loving it! The longest I've ever gone since I was a teenager. I am now really wondering why I started in the first place, the power of brainwashing is subtle and strong. I would never take take heroin, and it really helped me to stop the booze by labelling it "smack". They seem so similar in many ways.

I'm pretty much full on now with the alkaline diet, shopping on the weekend was interesting, avacados galore, loads of green leafy things. I've stopped eating meat now as well, although I still want to eat fish, salmon or mackerel. I'm drinking bicarb reglarly too.

My sinus problem hasn't vanished yet, sometimes its really clear though, but still relapsing which is a bit grim. On saturday though I felt absolutely fantastic, the best I've felt in maybe years. I'd love to know how long I should give it, any ideas?

I bought some almond milk which was really nice. I also bought some soy lecethin capsules as an alkaline diet chart I saw said it was extremely alaline.

Is soy based yogurt okay to use on this diet?

I'm now toying with the idea of growing barley and wheatgrass, does anyone her do that? Do they have to be juiced?

Anyhow, thanks again, very interesting concept, I hope it helps me as much as it has helped others.
CP

[scottishryan]

Excellent posts you three!!! :D:D

I love this thread!!! ;)

[domathy]

Chris Rock - Doctors & Drugs - YouTube

[domathy]

here's a site with some alkalising recipes for those looking for meal examples. :D

http://www.energiseforlife.com/wordpress/category/alkaline-recipes/

I might get the energize cookbook actually :)

Hiya
I don't care if this thread sounds a bit AA meetingish at times, it is part of the process toward an alkaline diet to stop boozing. I'm now in my fifth week of being totally booze free and I'm loving it! The longest I've ever gone since I was a teenager. I am now really wondering why I started in the first place, the power of brainwashing is subtle and strong. I would never take take heroin, and it really helped me to stop the booze by labelling it "smack". They seem so similar in many ways.

Its really good to challenge this sort of conditioning - and key to breaking free.
I was the same with weed and ecstasy - thinking its better than other addictions. But tptb use this perception of heroin being so terrible to pacify the masses and give contrast so they think drinking booze everyday is like having a cup of tea - all relative to heroin.

I'm pretty much full on now with the alkaline diet, shopping on the weekend was interesting, avacados galore, loads of green leafy things. I've stopped eating meat now as well, although I still want to eat fish, salmon or mackerel. I'm drinking bicarb reglarly too.

great, just keep going with it.

My sinus problem hasn't vanished yet, sometimes its really clear though, but still relapsing which is a bit grim. On saturday though I felt absolutely fantastic, the best I've felt in maybe years. I'd love to know how long I should give it, any ideas?

Have looked into getting a neti pot to flush the sinuses?
I bought some almond milk which was really nice. I also bought some soy lecethin capsules as an alkaline diet chart I saw said it was extremely alaline.

Is soy based yogurt okay to use on this diet?

Im not totally sure about soy as sometimes they use hexane (a petrolium based solvent) to extract the soy. But look, its not going to kill you - but its my job to be pickey. I still say its way better than dairy.

I'm now toying with the idea of growing barley and wheatgrass, does anyone her do that? Do they have to be juiced?

I can reccomend a very good wheatgrass based powder. Otherwise growing it is good. I grew it a couple times and would cut a handful of grass and chew it and drink the juice then spit out the fibre (not in public of course :p) - else you need an expensive juicer.

Anyhow, thanks again, very interesting concept, I hope it helps me as much as it has helped others.
CP

Im glad youre enjoying the thread - great to have your feedback and input. :)

[akana]

Its good to buy avos in bulk - do you know that to ripen them just put them in a brown paper bag and put in a dark cupboard? The avos reabsorb their own gasses and ripen quicker.

also helps to add a ripe banana or ripe apple


How long have you been eating a clean diet? HAve you noticed any changes in your health?

I've been vegetarian and vegan most of my life (back and forth). I have noticed changes, mainly in my mood and in the face that my ghrelin hormone is completely under control ! Similarly, when I was on the Alternate Day Fast program, the ghrelin was controlled then also.

[plam]

Im not totally sure about soy as sometimes they use hexane (a petrolium based solvent) to extract the soy. But look, its not going to kill you - but its my job to be pickey. I still say its way better than dairy.

I'm sorry but saying that soy is better than dairy is misleading and dangerous. Soy is NOT better than dairy, what's more SOY IS BAD FOR YOU!

Soy destroys your thyroid. Soy is full of enzyme-inhibitor. Soy leads to estrogen dominance, which leads to low libido and heart disease.

The list goes on ... and btw, the Asian eat a lot LESS soy than now the Europeans and Americans do as soy is everywhere.

Avoid it like plaque.

[lighthouse]

I'm sorry but saying that soy is better than dairy is misleading and dangerous. Soy is NOT better than dairy, what's more SOY IS BAD FOR YOU!

Soy destroys your thyroid. Soy is full of enzyme-inhibitor. Soy leads to estrogen dominance, which leads to low libido and heart disease.

The list goes on ... and btw, the Asian eat a lot more soy than now the Europeans and Americans as soy is everywhere.

Avoid it like plaque.

+1

Not to mention that 99 % of all soy is GMO from vast plantages
around the world.
When I started as a vegetarian, I naturely included soy in my diet.
After time I felt awful.
Now I'm back with good old milk and yoghurt,
and I feel great, plus I'm leaner than ever.
I almost never eat soy now. And I don't miss it a bit.

[akana]

Sometimes I buy non-sweetened non-gmo soy milk. If moderate consumption, i doubt it poses a health risk, but I'm not sure.

[akana]

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[domathy]

I'm sorry but saying that soy is better than dairy is misleading and dangerous. Soy is NOT better than dairy, what's more SOY IS BAD FOR YOU!

Soy destroys your thyroid. Soy is full of enzyme-inhibitor. Soy leads to estrogen dominance, which leads to low libido and heart disease.

The list goes on ... and btw, the Asian eat a lot LESS soy than now the Europeans and Americans do as soy is everywhere.

Avoid it like plaque.

Yes but if someone craves it they must not try to resist otherwise they will harm themselves emotionally ;) :D

I believe all the above relates to GMO soy and soy extracted using hexane (as mentioned many times already in this thread).
Ive said already the jury is out on soy for me and i dont use it - but a bit of soy wont harm you. Sprouted soy beans or sprouted soy seeds are very good for you and non GM soy is good too i believe.

Anyway, stop splitting hairs. Youre just upset as people dont want to jump on your raw dairy band wagon :p

Both dairy and soy are trashing the planet and i avoid both.

+1

Not to mention that 99 % of all soy is GMO from vast plantagesaround the world.
When I started as a vegetarian, I naturely included soy in my diet.
After time I felt awful.
Now I'm back with good old milk and yoghurt,
and I feel great, plus I'm leaner than ever.
I almost never eat soy now. And I don't miss it a bit.

Thats the relevant bit

[akana]

I have always wanted to try raw goat milk. I heard that it is structurally closest to human milk, and therefore more agreeable. Thoughts?

[domathy]

I have always wanted to try raw goat milk. I heard that it is structurally closest to human milk, and therefore more agreeable. Thoughts?

Yes, I think goats milk is fine, as long as its from organic pasture fed livestock.
And it may be closest to human milk but we only need milk when we are a baby and not beyond that. I would say its better than soy milk for sure as a recreational drink. There are tribes in parts of the world who live on just raw dairy and drink litres of milk each day and dont have heart disease or cholesterol etc. I dont really know enough about raw dairy - no doubt if i had easy access to raw goats milk i would have tried it by now but its easier to buy drugs than raw dairy or so it seems.

[domathy]

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[akana]

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[lighthouse]

And it may be closest to human milk but we only need milk when we are a baby and not beyond that.

I've read this statement a hundred times,
but my body just doesn't seem to agree with that. :confused:

I simply feel better and stronger if I start my day with milk.
Tried it the other way, without it, just doesn't work for me.

[domathy]

I've read this statement a hundred times,
but my body just doesn't seem to agree with that. :confused:

I simply feel better and stronger if I start my day with milk.
Tried it the other way, without it, just doesn't work for me.

Well, long may you have access to a goat :D

are you talking about raw milk? Otherwise you may just be getting a sugar buzz from the lactose.
Have you ever started the day with hemp/almond milk? That is a good way to start.
This morning I had sweet potato, avocado, veg soup and hemp/almond milk - that would set you up for the day pretty good :)

[domathy]

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[plam]

Yes but if someone craves it they must not try to resist otherwise they will harm themselves emotionally ;) :D

I believe all the above relates to GMO soy and soy extracted using hexane (as mentioned many times already in this thread).
Ive said already the jury is out on soy for me and i dont use it - but a bit of soy wont harm you. Sprouted soy beans or sprouted soy seeds are very good for you and non GM soy is good too i believe.

Anyway, stop splitting hairs. Youre just upset as people dont want to jump on your raw dairy band wagon :p

Both dairy and soy are trashing the planet and i avoid both.

Thats the relevant bit

domathy, I'm not a preacher, I've said in numerous times that one should listen to one's body and not to what the preachers say.
You come across as a preacher although quite subtle and inoffensive. The alkine diet is fine but extreme and therefore not suitable for everyone.

To be honest I don't care what people eat and do and how healthy or unhealthy they are - so long as I have the chance to look after myself, I'm all right.
I share my experience, that's all, if it clicks with someone, fine, if it doesn't, fine again.
I've got nothing to sell but every time you mention Young you advertise him and help to sell his products.
I don't want to be a saviour, in fact the world needs to be saved from the saviours of the world! :D

And how does dairy "thrashes" the planet is beyond me! Explain.

[lighthouse]

Otherwise you may just be getting a sugar buzz from the lactose.


No, I'm not getting a sugar buzz, because I know how that feels.
I'm off chocolate for over a year, don't miss it,
never had cravings for it.


Have you ever started the day with hemp/almond milk? That is a good way to start.
This morning I had sweet potato, avocado, veg soup and hemp/almond milk - that would set you up for the day pretty good :)

Almond is one thing, and milk is another.
Because animal is animal, and plant is a plant.
I cannot trick my body into thinking that something is what it isn't.
It's like the vegetarians always getting excited about some new
meat look a like sausage on the market.
If I needed a stake on my plate, I would eat it.
Immitation is not my thing.
Rice milk, oat milk. I only find the color the same.
Everything else is - something else, not milk.

domathy, I'm not a preacher, I've said in numerous times that one should listen to one's body and not to what the preachers say.
You come across as a preacher although quite subtle and inoffensive. The alkine diet is fine but extreme and therefore not suitable for everyone.

To be honest I don't care what people eat and do and how healthy or unhealthy they are - so long as I have the chance to look after myself, I'm all right.
I share my experience, that's all, if it clicks with someone, fine, if it doesn't, fine again.
I've got nothing to sell but every time you mention Young you advertise him and help to sell his products.
I don't want to be a saviour, in fact the world needs to be saved from the saviours of the world! :D

And how does dairy "thrashes" the planet is beyond me! Explain.

I sign this post.
And will add one more thing.
I find it most natural to eat stuff that grow and can be found
in your sorroundings. We come from place where we live.
Not from Mars.
And this alkaline diet does sound extreme.
For example, I don't eat fruit, because I have no need to eat it.
And usually it makes excessive acid in my stomach.
On the other hand, milk doesn't.
I feel great drinking it, although there are days
when I simply don't want to have a sip of it.
So I don't.
Nothing is good if taken every single day,
for ten years. Absolutely nothing.

[domathy]

domathy, I'm not a preacher, I've said in numerous times that one should listen to one's body and not to what the preachers say.
You come across as a preacher although quite subtle and inoffensive. The alkine diet is fine but extreme and therefore not suitable for everyone.

To be honest I don't care what people eat and do and how healthy or unhealthy they are - so long as I have the chance to look after myself, I'm all right.
I share my experience, that's all, if it clicks with someone, fine, if it doesn't, fine again.
I've got nothing to sell but every time you mention Young you advertise him and help to sell his products.
I don't want to be a saviour, in fact the world needs to be saved from the saviours of the world! :D

And how does dairy "thrashes" the planet is beyond me! Explain.

You are preaching that the alkaline diet is extreme and not suitable for everyone and i vigorously oppose this suggestion :p :)
It may be extreme by modern standards as in the past 60 years or so we define normal 'eating' as an abundance of junk in our diet. The alkaline diet focusses on whole plant foods and fats.

I dont sell Dr Youngs products. I dont even reccomend his book. As I think i communicate this info better and make it more approachable and seem less extreme. Though all credit goes to Dr Young for the initial research. Like you say, i dont care what people eat either :) Im just providing info for people who often have heath problems and have tried lots of other diets/approaches and didnt get the success they wanted. I know from personal experience and 8 yrs helping others - that it is an insult to turn round and tell them the "just eat a balanced diet" - as I can assure you, we/they tried that already. But yes the diet is extreme (but not in a negative way as you imply) as you can achieve much more extreme levels of health on an alkaline diet that most other approaches to nutrition, and yes this diet is not suitable for everyone but there is no danger of people being sucked into the 'alklaine cult' as people either want to keep eating acidic foods or they dont. People very rarely go looking for a soultion to their health problems until they have a symptom.

I'm just saying, you come here and make posts but fail to substantiate with reasons why the diet is extreme. What is someone going to lack on an alkaline diet? Maybe you should be very clear on your precise objections and then i can address them.

Dairy:
Cutting massive areas of rainforest to rear livestock, huge volumes of grain and water used, pollution and run-off from cattle farms, energy used to farm. Its is
more energy efficient to get in your car and drive a mile than to walk that mile if your energy is coming from animal products. For every few calories of meat, there are hundreds of calories that were eaten by the cow in the form of grains, plus all the other farming related energy expenditures. Its like the iceberg lettuce - for every 1 calorie from imported lettuce - it took 1000 calories to transport for every 1 caloire from the lettuce.

That said, I generally agree with what you say, but it doesnt apply to the modern world. Everything is turned on its head and the pH diet is designed for the modern word and the modern challenges we are facing

[domathy]

No, I'm not getting a sugar buzz, because I know how that feels.
I'm off chocolate for over a year, don't miss it,
never had cravings for it.

Okay - well, pasterized milk isnt great.

Almond is one thing, and milk is another.
Because animal is animal, and plant is a plant.
I cannot trick my body into thinking that something is what it isn't.
It's like the vegetarians always getting excited about some new
meat look a like sausage on the market.
If I needed a stake on my plate, I would eat it.
Immitation is not my thing.
Rice milk, oat milk. I only find the color the same.
Everything else is - something else, not milk.

I dont think we need to drink milk at all.
Almond 'milk' is a name used for convenience - i dont use it as a milk substitude as i dont drink milk, but i enjoy almond 'milk' in its own right. Same with hemp. Its basically the same principal as pressing oil - now, im sure you use olive oil dont you? :) Its the dairy industry that told you its best to start the day with cows milk. I chose to not believe their lies and enjoy a glass of almond milk instead. Its all just conditioning.
I dont use substitutes either. The fake meat sausages etc are maybe worse than meat tbh.

I sign this post.
And will add one more thing.
I find it most natural to eat stuff that grow and can be found
in your sorroundings. We come from place where we live.
Not from Mars.
And this alkaline diet does sound extreme.
For example, I don't eat fruit, because I have no need to eat it.
And usually it makes excessive acid in my stomach.
On the other hand, milk doesn't.
I feel great drinking it, although there are days
when I simply don't want to have a sip of it.
So I don't.
Nothing is good if taken every single day,
for ten years. Absolutely nothing.

I agree but I wouldnt eat fish from british waters (or any waters these days tbh)
And mars bars are not good either.
But what is natural? The whole planet has been turned into an industrial food machine that produces food in unnatural environments.
I go to a supermarket and even broccoli which is in season in the UK has been imported sometimes.
If you want to drink milk then dont let me stop you. But if you ever get a health problem- the first thing you should stop doing is having dairy. Sorry if you dont like that but that advice is not unique to Dr Young or the 'alklaine diet cult' - just google until you see why pasteurized dairy may not be good for you.
But yes, i would love to eat only fresh seasonal food.

The alkaline diet is an unnatural solution to an unnatural problem. People are sick and tired and have yeast in their blood (thats what you call extreme) and the food chain is really messed up. So this diet avoids the foods that have been tampered with or are contaminated with fungus and molds due to storage methods and farming practices.

And also you take air and water every single day :)

[plam]

Dairy:
Cutting massive areas of rainforest to rear livestock, huge volumes of grain and water used, pollution and run-off from cattle farms, energy used to farm. Its is more energy efficient to get in your car and drive a mile than to walk that mile if your energy is coming from animal products. For every few calories of meat, there are hundreds of calories that were eaten by the cow in the form of grains, plus all the other farming related energy expenditures. Its like the iceberg lettuce - for every 1 calorie from imported lettuce - it took 1000 calories to transport for every 1 caloire from the lettuce.

That argument is false. It takes a lot more land to grow vegetables than to feed gazing animals. In order to grow plants you do need to deforest large sizes of land. In fact, gazing animals on uncultivated grass is what nature created, not you and me.

It's a different matter if animals are fed mostly on grain concentrates which is not their natural food, nor is ours, for that matter.

And talking about energy one gets a lot more energy from animal products than from plants. So again, your impact on the environment as vegetarian whose staple food is pants is far greater than mine!

Nothing is good if taken every single day, for ten years. Absolutely nothing.

Not even ten years, ten days I'd say. Everyone knows that the body gives us signals when we eat the same thing again and again and no matter how good/bad or healthy/unhealthy it is, we need to try something else.

[scottishryan]

My dad is bigger than you're dad :rolleyes:

The topic is about alkalising the body not how much land we use as meat eater or vegetarians. Who gives a monkeys really :p

We are all adults, eat and drink what we want and leave it at that and get back to the how-to of this topic?

[lulushka8]

i wouldn't bother explaining about dairy as people will only give it up if they really want to for the right reasons, no-ones going to persuade them that drinking the juice from an animal's boobs (raw or otherwise) is unnatural/unethical and that they might as well suck on their pregnant cat's tits. do we really need milk in adulthood, if you do, maybe breast-milk would be better (find a willing woman to donate?). :confused:

hemp milk is delicious, especially flavoured with vanilla and stevia.

domathy has not gone on your meat thread and preached about vegetarianism so why hijack it on his with raw milk, this thread was never about that anyway, just annoying to have someone going on about goat juice on an alkalizing thread.

[scottishryan]

i wouldn't bother explaining about dairy as people will only give it up if they really want to for the right reasons, no-ones going to persuade them that drinking the juice from an animal's boobs (raw or otherwise) is unnatural/unethical and that they might as well suck on their pregnant cat's tits. do we really need milk in adulthood, if you do, maybe breast-milk would be better (find a willing woman to donate?). :confused:

hemp milk is delicious, especially flavoured with vanilla and stevia.

domathy has not gone on your meat thread and preached about vegetarianism so why hijack it on his with raw milk, this thread was never about that anyway, just annoying to have someone going on about goat juice on an alkalizing thread.

Well Said!

Never knew they had a meat thread...sheesh, hope this is not a derailment to promote their own ideas by using this topic :rolleyes: If it is, I will be reporting them to the mods and flagging the postings

[plam]

drinking the juice from an animal's boobs (raw or otherwise) is unnatural/unethical

Stupid unnatural/unethical cat! :D

Cat eat milk the dog - YouTube

Sorry folks, I didn't know that this thread was veggies only club! OK, I'm out! :D

[plam]

Stupid unnatural/unethical cat! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV-0wJq2G9g

Sorry folks, I didn't know that this thread was veggies only club! OK, I'm out! :D

Quoted for the video.

[scottishryan]

Sorry folks, I didn't know that this thread was veggies only club! OK, I'm out! :D

:D Its not, its about the title text which when you study, you find that Meat is highly acidic! Now, whether you eat meat and then increase substantially in amounts of alkalising foods to neutralise then fair enough...

I personally do not eat animals though, I care about them...my own personal stance though :)

[lighthouse]

If you want to drink milk then dont let me stop you. But if you ever get a health problem- the first thing you should stop doing is having dairy. Sorry if you dont like that but that advice is not unique to Dr Young or the 'alklaine diet cult' - just google until you see why pasteurized dairy may not be good for you.
But yes, i would love to eat only fresh seasonal food.

The alkaline diet is an unnatural solution to an unnatural problem. People are sick and tired and have yeast in their blood (thats what you call extreme) and the food chain is really messed up. So this diet avoids the foods that have been tampered with or are contaminated with fungus and molds due to storage methods and farming practices.

And also you take air and water every single day :)

What if I have health problems when I don't drink milk
and eat dairy products? What then?
What always shocks me is the amount of eagerness around
belief systems and new gospels among people who are allegedly
aware and awaken. :confused:
It just has to be your way, isn't it?

Your argument is Google something? :D
Google nutrition according to blood types, then what?
Internet is flooded with contradictory stuff on just about
every godamn thing there is.
20 years ago soy was the answer to anything,
sadly no one mentioned the hormones and the damage
it can cause to thyroid gland, and that's just for starters.
But everyone in "healthy" eating were swearing on their mothers
grave it's simply great to have it in every meal.
I know people who's health is still suffering because of that delusion. :mad:

You know all about every single thing there is to know about nutrition,
so it couldn't be that some humans prosper from eating
something else besides your nutrition plan?
Come on! :rolleyes:

That argument is false. It takes a lot more land to grow vegetables than to feed gazing animals. In order to grow plants you do need to deforest large sizes of land. In fact, gazing animals on uncultivated grass is what nature created, not you and me.

It's a different matter if animals are fed mostly on grain concentrates which is not their natural food, nor is ours, for that matter.

Not even ten years, ten days I'd say. Everyone knows that the body gives us signals when we eat the same thing again and again and no matter how good/bad or healthy/unhealthy it is, we need to try something else.

Problem with food industry is that 7 mlrd. people eat more
than they ever did. And western civilisation eats almost everything,
and eats too much of it on daily basis.
Not to mention the amount of food that ends up in garbage cans
every day.
Just 50 years ago in my family, meat was eaten once a week,
or once in two weeks. There was no need for farms like we have today,
because no one bought that much.
How much of things is the key.

Well Said!

Never knew they had a meat thread...sheesh, hope this is not a derailment to promote their own ideas by using this topic :rolleyes: If it is, I will be reporting them to the mods and flagging the postings

We talk about alkaline diet here.
If you tolerate only one way to talk about a subject,
forum is not a good place for you.
Remember, this is all just a theory.
Theory that is up and running high these days like many others were,
doesn't mean it's the holy Bible.
People debate about the holy Bible too you know? :D

If you feel good eating the way you do, fine.
Maybe other people don't feel so good alkalising their bodies.
Put up with it, you're not a kid.

[scottishryan]

:D ok :D

[lighthouse]

:D ok :D

:p

Have a lemonade!

http://www.recipetips.com/images/glossary/l/lemonade.jpg

:D

[scottishryan]

:p

Have a lemonade!

http://www.recipetips.com/images/glossary/l/lemonade.jpg

:D

Hahahahahahahahahahaaa :p

[lulushka8]

Quoted for the video.
Stupid unnatural/unethical cat!

aww, there you go! that's not a stupid cat, obviously the cat asked the dog if it was willing (telepathically) and dog was clearly consenting, didn't seem to mind at all, everyone's happy. :D

[lulushka8]

:D Its not, its about the title text which when you study, you find that Meat is highly acidic! Now, whether you eat meat and then increase substantially in amounts of alkalising foods to neutralise then fair enough...

I personally do not eat animals though, I care about them...my own personal stance though :)

exactly. :)

[domathy]

Look plam and lighthouse, Im sure that you both took the time to read my article in full (you did didn't you?)

But to reiterate:
This diet is designed to restore people to balance. After that its their business what they do. I work with people and monitor their blood and pH until they are fixed and then they go on their merry way - they can go drink dairy for all i care (though I always hope they continue to eat alkaline as its a great way to keep the blood clean). Dr Youngs protocol works the best as ive tested the blood of people on just about every conceivable diet and the blood never lies. The blood will only run totally clean on a 100% plant based diet, and you need to blood to run clean to approach things like cancer. But Dr Dairy :p If you have a better track record than Dr Young then please speak up and ill be happy to do some research with you. This works for athletes too as they use it to keep lactic acid low. I know lots of personal trainers who use this and lots of the people in London doing dance and martial arts have also cottoned on. Dr Youngs bone density was still increasing well into his 50's - when for men it peaks around 30 (dairy causes bone loss) I have seen countless 'incurable' diseases be reversed and confirmed the changes in the blood too. I cured myself of thrombophillia and hemophillia and CFS. So yes the diet is extreme, but some people are extremely ill - and others want extreme fitness. Lots of people use this diet and take a 'middle of the road' approach (as you advocate) and include coffee, alcohol, wheat, dairy - and they are healthy enough - but also hydrate using good water and take Dr Youngs greens (which is awesome for the record) and eat lots of veg - and they have above average health. But, you are generalising to say this whole pH thing is wrong because you dont know your facts.

There is no point in discussing what is the 'natural' diet for humans. We only have season and regional food because of the presence of the moon - and the moon was clearly put there by malevolent beings. We shouldnt even need food anyway.

I dont like eating avocados that i know were grown and picked by slaves - thats no more ethical than dairy, but i know a massive percentage of cows are not pasture fed or are pasture fed at the expense of cutting down rainforest - and that dairy indstry is in the hands of big farmer.

But anyway, feel free to be more specific with your objections and we can discuss why this diet has got you both so very concerned.

[domathy]

Are Mushrooms, Algae and Meat Good for You? #456 - YouTube


More about meat:



Are Meat, Algae and Mushrooms Really All That Bad #459 - YouTube




(thanks Akana for this channel)

[lulushka8]

i've been watching kevin gianni since he started on youtube, he's great, i have a lot of respect for him cause he's always completely honest and funny too. he's no expert but he has a good way of putting things, getting messages across and has done a lot of research & experimentation himself. :)

[theramblingpoet]

Yes but if someone craves it they must not try to resist otherwise they will harm themselves emotionally ;) :D

I believe all the above relates to GMO soy and soy extracted using hexane (as mentioned many times already in this thread).
Ive said already the jury is out on soy for me and i dont use it - but a bit of soy wont harm you. Sprouted soy beans or sprouted soy seeds are very good for you and non GM soy is good too i believe.

Anyway, stop splitting hairs. Youre just upset as people dont want to jump on your raw dairy band wagon :p

Both dairy and soy are trashing the planet and i avoid both.



Thats the relevant bit

If you eat what you want to eat you will be much happier but you can take
H2o2 daily to chase all the scary cancer cells away if you want.
Everyone has a plan from the start we all know and agree to the way we live and die embrace life and live it how it was meant to be lived without fear and full of all the things that make you and others around you happy that is the true journey!

[domathy]

i wouldn't bother explaining about dairy as people will only give it up if they really want to for the right reasons, no-ones going to persuade them that drinking the juice from an animal's boobs (raw or otherwise) is unnatural/unethical and that they might as well suck on their pregnant cat's tits. do we really need milk in adulthood, if you do, maybe breast-milk would be better (find a willing woman to donate?). :confused:

hemp milk is delicious, especially flavoured with vanilla and stevia.

domathy has not gone on your meat thread and preached about vegetarianism so why hijack it on his with raw milk, this thread was never about that anyway, just annoying to have someone going on about goat juice on an alkalizing thread.

Has anyone ever told you that you look quite feline :eek: .... dont give these milk drinkers ideas :D

Well Said!

Never knew they had a meat thread...sheesh, hope this is not a derailment to promote their own ideas by using this topic :rolleyes: If it is, I will be reporting them to the mods and flagging the postings

They'd get a spam warning and proceed to eat it in a sandwich. :D

:D Its not, its about the title text which when you study, you find that Meat is highly acidic! Now, whether you eat meat and then increase substantially in amounts of alkalising foods to neutralise then fair enough...

I personally do not eat animals though, I care about them...my own personal stance though :)

Gwaan! :)

[domathy]

If you eat what you want to eat you will be much happier but you can take
H2o2 daily to chase all the scary cancer cells away if you want.
Everyone has a plan from the start we all know and agree to the way we live and die embrace life and live it how it was meant to be lived without fear and full of all the things that make you and others around you happy that is the true journey!

And good Luck to you! :)
(now i'd be willing to bet you didnt read my article)

[scottishryan]

They'd get a spam warning and proceed to eat it in a sandwich. :D

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[domathy]

Now, Ive been doing a detox (prepping for liver flush) since yesterday and am feeling pretty rough. My system is very good at detoxification and i normally get 24 hr headache (the body dumping the major deposits of acids etc back into the blood to be eliminated) but today i feel like death. Sometimes i get a 48 hr headache and thats fine. But today ive had migrane, nausea and been sick quite a lot (talking about meat and dairy could not have come at a worse time :(). It could be that ive not been drinking greens for a while so theres more toxicity to eliminate - or it was some dodgy almond milk (go on, laugh plam :)).
I didnt peel them like normal so there may have been a moldy one in there, so I reckon, due to the shitty state of almonds in the UK - just take the time to peel and almonds as shown in my little video. Saying that, if you buy a batch and peel a few and they look good then dont bother. These were organic almonds and they tend to be crappier and have more mold from storage - so i guess be more careful with organic ones.

But, id be interested to know if anyone had the same experience with almond milk?

[domathy]

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http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/rcps-scotland/spamboy.jpg

Haha love it! That spam suit is rather fetching actually :) Think I might get me one of those next time im up saville row :cool:

[plam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRhCVUFbNTM

"Meat does not add any nutritional value to your body" - quoting Youngs.

So, domathy a man that makes such a ridiculous statement is your mentor, right?

Never mind that Inuit people eat mostly meat in their diet and recent finding suggest that - Inuit diet touted as health tonic (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=774f6379-ecd4-4c9a-8b2a-91a3a9ee31f0&k=66897)

The Inuit traditional diet offers natural protection against two of the planet's biggest killers -- heart disease and cancer -- according to a study that gives an unprecedented glimpse of the health of northern Canadians.

While accelerating environmental and social meltdown is putting huge stress on Arctic communities, the study of almost 1,000 Inuit in northern Quebec shows the diet rich in game continues to offer remarkable protection, says lead researcher Dr. Eric Dewailly of Laval University.

The traditional Inuit diet is fats and proteins, no sugar at all.

Robert Young applies traditional tactics of someone who main aim is to sell. Scare the people and then suggest a miracle cure! Elementary!
And I don't want to sound rude, but your "doctor" does not look healthy on that video. Not much energy in that body. Or maybe just a bad hair day! :D

[lulushka8]

Has anyone ever told you that you look quite feline :eek: .... dont give these milk drinkers ideas :D


:eek:i'm not preggers or offering (unless plam's a starving abandoned baby).

(i thought a cat's tits would be best considering his avatar)

[lulushka8]

Now, Ive been doing a detox (prepping for liver flush) since yesterday and am feeling pretty rough. My system is very good at detoxification and i normally get 24 hr headache (the body dumping the major deposits of acids etc back into the blood to be eliminated) but today i feel like death. Sometimes i get a 48 hr headache and thats fine. But today ive had migrane, nausea and been sick quite a lot (talking about meat and dairy could not have come at a worse time :(). It could be that ive not been drinking greens for a while so theres more toxicity to eliminate - or it was some dodgy almond milk (go on, laugh plam :)).
I didnt peel them like normal so there may have been a moldy one in there, so I reckon, due to the shitty state of almonds in the UK - just take the time to peel and almonds as shown in my little video. Saying that, if you buy a batch and peel a few and they look good then dont bother. These were organic almonds and they tend to be crappier and have more mold from storage - so i guess be more careful with organic ones.

But, id be interested to know if anyone had the same experience with almond milk?

sorry to hear you're having a rough time, my cat milk talk can't have helped much. :rolleyes:

[domathy]

"Meat does not add any nutritional value to your body" - quoting Youngs.

So, domathy a man that makes such a ridiculous statement is your mentor, right?

Never mind that Inuit people eat mostly meat in their diet and recent finding suggest that - Inuit diet touted as health tonic (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=774f6379-ecd4-4c9a-8b2a-91a3a9ee31f0&k=66897)

They get lots of good fats (omega 3&6) plus dont they eat the stuff moslty/all raw?
Try eating that diet in London whilst leading a semi-sedentary lifestyle - see how you'd smell :eek:
I think the inuits have bed teeth and other probs so ill go look for you. There were groups that began cooking and i think it was they who developed health problems if i recall - plus parasites due to all the raw meat.


The traditional Inuit diet is fats and proteins, no sugar at all.

Robert Young applies traditional tactics of someone who main aim is to sell. Scare the people and then suggest a miracle cure! Elementary!
And I don't want to sound rude, but your "doctor" does not look healthy on that video. Not much energy in that body. Or maybe just a bad hair day! :D

He looks okay for someone in his 60's and you should see his muscles

[plam]

Now, Ive been doing a detox (prepping for liver flush) since yesterday and am feeling pretty rough. My system is very good at detoxification and i normally get 24 hr headache (the body dumping the major deposits of acids etc back into the blood to be eliminated) but today i feel like death. Sometimes i get a 48 hr headache and thats fine. But today ive had migrane, nausea and been sick quite a lot (talking about meat and dairy could not have come at a worse time :(). It could be that ive not been drinking greens for a while so theres more toxicity to eliminate - or it was some dodgy almond milk (go on, laugh plam :)).
I didnt peel them like normal so there may have been a moldy one in there, so I reckon, due to the shitty state of almonds in the UK - just take the time to peel and almonds as shown in my little video. Saying that, if you buy a batch and peel a few and they look good then dont bother. These were organic almonds and they tend to be crappier and have more mold from storage - so i guess be more careful with organic ones.

But, id be interested to know if anyone had the same experience with almond milk?

Anyone can have a rough day regardless of what diet they follow. I have rough days too. BUT my opinion is that you overdo these liver flushes.

You display similar addiction to a perfect health as a junkie to his drug addiction. You already have a decent dieting regime, why go overboard?
All these experiments with your own body, no good.

In the name of humanity? It ain't worth it! :D

p.s. I'm not laughing at your choice of milk, but if you fancy a change, I hear lulushka is offering the real thing! :D

[domathy]

:eek:i'm not preggers or offering (unless plam's a starving abandoned baby).

(i thought a cat's tits would be best considering his avatar)

True - i missed that. :rolleyes:

sorry to hear you're having a rough time, my cat milk talk can't have helped much. :rolleyes:

Well it tipped me over the edge and was sick a lot - but feel chipper now so thanks. Better out than in i suppose :D

[plam]

I think the inuits have bed teeth and other probs so ill go look for you.

Where did you get that. Just on the contrary, Weston Price studied their diet and was was fascinated by their excellent teeth, good nature and overall robust health.

[lulushka8]

Anyone can have a rough day regardless of what diet they follow. I have rough days too. BUT my opinion is that you overdo these liver flushes.

You display similar addiction to a perfect health as a junkie to his drug addiction. You already have a decent dieting regime, why go overboard?
All these experiments with your own body, no good.

In the name of humanity? It ain't worth it! :D

p.s. I'm not laughing at your choice of milk, but if you fancy a change, I hear lulushka is offering the real thing! :D

i said i was NOT offering unless you were a starving abandoned baby, which you clearly are not considering you have the teeth to chew raw meat! :D

[domathy]

Anyone can have a rough day regardless of what diet they follow. I have rough days too. BUT my opinion is that you overdo these liver flushes.

You display similar addiction to a perfect health as a junkie to his drug addiction. You already have a decent dieting regime, why go overboard?
All these experiments with your own body, no good.

In the name of humanity? It ain't worth it! :D

p.s. I'm not laughing at your choice of milk, but if you fancy a change, I hear lulushka is offering the real thing! :D

I spent 20 yrs eating only junk food (and say 7 yrs of hardcore drug taking)
So the past 10 yrs have been about restoring health and rebuilding.
Friends/family used to worry and say i was obsessive.....but not anymore :D
Now they ask me what i do different and why i never get colds/flu and always have lots of energy and dont flag. (I never get rough days where health is concerned)
I spent years trying to improve my health and lots (LOTS) of money on very good supplements - but i hit a plateau. Then last year i flushed my liver and passed about 2000 stones till the liver ran clear. After that maintaining health has been easy and i just eat a good diet and take a few basic supplements. It took about 20 + flushes to clear the liver and now its just periodic maintainance.
In the world we live in its wise to do some basic detoxification. All im doing atm for preparation is no chocolate/sugar - hence the headache - which has passed now and i feel good. Im very tuned in to my body, and to me and liver flush or colon cleanse is just like changing the oil in my car - not a big deal.
Anyway, I said my 20's were about health - and i have got myself to a very good place now. People are stunned at the changes in me (i was sick and brain dead from drugs - no exaggeration) and i climbed a mountain i never thought could be climbed. Anyway, im 30 since arpil and always said my 30's would be about other things so thats where im at now.

And stop licking your lips :)

[lulushka8]

[COLOR="seagreen"]Well it tipped me over the edge and was sick a lot - but feel chipper now so thanks. Better out than in i suppose :D


thanks for the details btw (eughh) well i'm glad to have helped anyway.

[domathy]

Where did you get that. Just on the contrary, Weston Price studied their diet and was was fascinated by their excellent teeth, good nature and overall robust health.

Oh yeah, i remeber that now - told my dentist if i recall.
I think its the groups that started cooking that had probs.
But, how much protein do they consume vs fat? Fat is
fine, but too much protein isnt great. Bear in mind the live outdoors breathing
alklaine ionized air, are physically active, not stressed or being parasited on by the govt etc etc.

[domathy]

This article explains pretty good why the inuit diet works:

http://www.theiflife.com/the-inuit-paradox-high-fat-lower-heart-disease-and-cancer/

EDIT: also life expectancy is lower for inuits http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/080123/dq080123d-eng.htm

[akana]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRhCVUFbNTM


More about meat:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u3EL1P--8s




(thanks Akana for this channel)

NP, they have tons of raw recipes!

[lighthouse]

[COLOR="Green"]Look plam and lighthouse, Im sure that you both took the time to read my article in full (you did didn't you?)

But, you are generalising to say this whole pH thing is wrong because you dont know your facts.


I read it, don't know about Plam.
Facts? Man, you stated some things that are very far from facts.
That is just what you believe that goes on in human body.
Fact? I don't thinks so.


There is no point in discussing what is the 'natural' diet for humans. We only have season and regional food because of the presence of the moon - and the moon was clearly put there by malevolent beings. We shouldnt even need food anyway.


Clearly? And that's why? :D
More "facts"?


But anyway, feel free to be more specific with your objections and we can discuss why this diet has got you both so very concerned.

Well, this diet, like any other is dangerous if one doesn't listen
to his/her body.
I tested you on that matter and you failed.
If you were my nutriciounist you would clearly stick to your gospel,
although your patient feels good when eating something else
than you believe is good.

Now, Ive been doing a detox (prepping for liver flush) since yesterday and am feeling pretty rough. My system is very good at detoxification and i normally get 24 hr headache (the body dumping the major deposits of acids etc back into the blood to be eliminated)...


Have you consider the possibility your "detoxing" is actually poisoning
you?

I spent 20 yrs eating only junk food (and say 7 yrs of hardcore drug taking)
So the past 10 yrs have been about restoring health and rebuilding.
Friends/family used to worry and say i was obsessive.....but not anymore :D
Now they ask me what i do different and why i never get colds/flu and always have lots of energy and dont flag. (I never get rough days where health is concerned)


I know people with kidney problems that never ever get colds.
On the other hand, I do.
Who's healthier?
By the way, you are obssesive, I was right about that. :p
Second, some of us didn't spent 20 years on junk food,
and 7 on drugs.
We're all different, don't forget that.


EDIT: also life expectancy is lower for inuits...

Life expectancy for people in western civilisation has never been
higher, despite all the junk food and toxines,
and with every decade gets higher, how do you explain that?

[domathy]

I read it, don't know about Plam.
Facts? Man, you stated some things that are very far from facts.
That is just what you believe that goes on in human body.
Fact? I don't thinks so.

Feel free to continue thinking what you want :) Doesnt change the truth

Clearly? And that's why? :D
More "facts"?



Well, this diet, like any other is dangerous if one doesn't listen
to his/her body. 'this' isnt a diet - it is information. "Information dont kill people....people kill people"
I tested you on that matter and you failed. :(
If you were my nutriciounist you would clearly stick to your gospel,
although your patient feels good when eating something else
than you believe is good.

I dont understand what you mean/

Have you consider the possibility your "detoxing" is actually poisoning
you?

No

I know people with kidney problems that never ever get colds.
On the other hand, I do. I used to get colds - now i dont
Who's healthier? me
By the way, you are obssesive, I was right about that. :p well, maybe you need to re-define obsessiveSecond, some of us didn't spent 20 years on junk food,
and 7 on drugs.
We're all different, don't forget that. I didnt forget that


Life expectancy for people in western civilisation has never been
higher, despite all the junk food and toxines,
and with every decade gets higher, how do you explain that?

Drugs, improved sanitation, and more drugs. Longevity doesnt mean quality of life remember

[akana]

Domathy, can you elaborate on the moon part of your post please? I've never heard that we only have seasons cuz of the moon. In any case, that's interesting.

[domathy]

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Dangers Of Milk And
Dairy Products - The Facts
By Dave Rietz
Webmaster www.notmilk.com
7-6-2
Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.

Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH.

Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.

MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS

*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).

LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICA
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998)

Rank Total Description

1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and
mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the
kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)

(2a and 7a were added for completeness)

(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the medical system!)

CANCER FUEL

Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).

IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.

(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)

QUANTITY

Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.

MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)

Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).

Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.

Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.

IGF-1 INCREASES

This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24 ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming 12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.

FAT

Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.

Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the 54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream, cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives (casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause for their weight and health problem.

CALCIUM

Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.

The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years?

Read more about it at:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info

Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of calcium.

Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:

Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794

The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3 magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only 98.38mg of calcium is usable.

It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one does not lose.

PROTEIN

Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat, milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.

THE 'WHOLESOME' PROTEIN MYTH

87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.

Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is:

WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER PROTEIN
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75

(note: that is 3.25% "milkfat" which includes the 87% water.)

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.

Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza.
For the whole Flo-Jo story:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.html,
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/111598.html and
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/112398.html for the whole story.

BACTERIA

Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees Fahrenheit.

To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!

Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very quickly.

PUS

ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is "PUS") and 20,000 live bacteria... before it is kept off the market.

That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to 750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).

1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) = 532,323,450 pus cells ~ 14,220,000 bacteria
(the "recommended" daily intake)

The EU and the Canadians allow for a less "tasty" 400,000,000 pus cells per liter.

Typically these levels are lower... but they COULD reach these levels and still get to YOUR table.

CHOLESTEROL

The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor who recommends that much bacon per day?

KOSHER

Is cow's milk and dairy "Kosher"? Consider this:

"D-3 always is derived from an animal. The sunlight reaction that converts 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D-3 is a 'pure' chemical reaction that occurs in your skin in certain cells."

"The provitamin known as 7-dehydrocholesterol is extracted and isolated from the skins of mammals and purified." (Marian Herbert of the Vitamin D Workshop U of C)

Vitamin D-3 can come from four different sources:

Pig skin, sheep skin, raw fish liver, and pig brains. Most of the time, Vitamin D-3 is extracted from pig skin and sold to dairy processors.

Short answer to "is milk kosher" - probably not.

OTHER 'STUFF'

Fat and cholesterol. Lots of it. Per the dairy influenced USDA "food pyramid" all milk, dairy and meats should represent no more than 8% of the diet. Statistically, by volume of sales in a nation of 281 million Americans, it works out to almost 40% of the diet for MILK AND DAIRY.. without the meat.

The milk of each of the over 4,700 mammals on earth is formulated specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and immunoglobulins (cow specific immunizing stuff) that in humans serve as allergens.

LEUKEMIA

According to Hoards Dairyman (Volume 147, number 4)... 89% of America's dairy herds have the leukemia virus. (more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/835)

DIABETES

The protein lactalbumin, has been identified as a key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving cows milk to infants).

CROHN'S DISEASE

Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called "Johne's."

Cows diagnosed with Johne's Disease have diarrhea, and heavy fecal shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk, and is not destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk-borne bacteria will begin to grow in the human host, and the results are irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's Disease.

MAD COW DISEASE

There may also be prions (pronounced PREons) in the milk and meat. This is crystalline substance that acts like a virus... with an "incubation" period of from 5 to 30 years. The end result is MAD COW DISEASE!

HOMOGENIZATION

Large fat molecules cannot get through the intestinal wall into the bloodstream. The cream no longer rises... because homogenization breaks up those large molecules into small ones that DO get into the bloodstream! This becomes an expressway for any fat-borne toxins (lead, dioxin's, etc.) into your (otherwise) most protected organs.

CUMULATIVE EFFECTS

How does this impact humans who consume cow's milk and dairy? Obesity (over 50% of Americans and rising), heart disease, cancer, allergies, digestive problems, diabetes, asthma, desensitization to antibiotics, behavioral problems, and the constant ingestion of dioxin's, herbicides, pesticides (and anything else the cow eats that is not good for any critter), that winds up getting stored in HUMAN fat... is not healthy by any measure.

Those who resist believing the truth should understand that MOST of the world's population CANNOT tolerate the lactose in cow's milk. Up to 95% of the black population, around 53% of the Hispanics, etc.) So much for cow's milk being "natures perfect food" for humans! Mother nature knows better.

Common sense question: Where was this massive "milk is a must" before refrigeration, pasteurization and mass transportation? Back when cows gave only 1-4 pounds a day it was quickly made into BUTTER and cheese! Now that those same cows have been tweaked and shot-up with Posilac to produce up to 55 or more pounds of milk per day... almost all year long... it is suddenly (after many thousands of years) a daily "staple". NOT!

POLLUTION

There are around 9.2 million dairy cows in the United states. Each dairy cow ingests around 330 pounds of feed (perhaps 50 pounds) and water (around 280 pounds or 33 gallons) per day. Allowing for the best dairy production of 55 pounds of milk per day (over ten times what mother nature designed the cow to produce) that means that what remains becomes "slurry".

That means around 275 pound of urine and feces per day... per cow, for a daily total of 2.53 BILLION pounds of pollution. Per year... that amounts to around 923 billion pounds of UNTREATED pollution entering our streams, rivers, lakes... and drinking water systems.

Cows are hot-blooded mammals. Like all other mammals they pass gas. Somewhat like elephants their compartmented digestive system is rather inefficient... which leads to the creation of MORE gas. During a Discovery Channel documentary on elephants a parting quip was that the average adult elephant passes enough methane gas per day to run a car about 20 miles.

Cows are not much better. The English New Scientist (page 5 -31.8.96) mentions that cattle produce around 48 kilograms (105 pounds) of methane each per year and that more bubbles out of the animals' manure. Dairy cows eat more because they produce milk. With 9.2 million dairy cows times a minimum of 100 pounds of methane gas per year... that amounts almost a billion pounds of methane gas released into the atmosphere each year. With around 100 million beef cattle... pigs, sheep, and other "factory farmed" animals it should not be difficult to fathom the extent of this problem.

This means that "Beef is a greenhouse-intensive food" and a major cause of global warming (with dairy a significant part of the problem).

Another major point is:

"Milk is a very strong pollutant: it is about 400 times more polluting than untreated sewage. To put it another way, 1,000 gallons of milk has the same polluting potential as the untreated sewage from a town of 7,000 people." Morlais Owen. Chief Scientist for Welsh Water. North Wales Weekly News. 24.3.88.

SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED

Q: What is WHEY?

A: Whey results when the FAT and CASEIN are removed from milk.
In making cheese, the curds become the cheese.

Whey's main components are bovine serum albumin and lactalbumin.
There are other hormones contained in whey.

Q: What happens to the:

59 hormones, scores of allergens herbicides, pesticides, dioxins
up to 52 antibiotics

When made into cheese?

A: Everything gets concentrated.

When made into butter?

A: The allergens get lost: but the dioxin's and
pesticides and antibiotics remain in the fat.

In the digestive system?

A: Steroid hormones survive, as do dioxins and antibiotics.
In homogenized milk, protein hormones survive... depending upon the
gastric pH, some protein hormones in cheese survive, but not all...
eleven steroid hormones survive.

AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

Eventually, everything is broken down, but not before the chemical messengers (hormones) "deliver their message."

Each of those hormones and proteins acts differently and has different rates of degradation. BOTTOM LINE... they all survive to a certain degree... and the effects are cumulative.

OTHER HEATH-TRASHING SUBSTANCES IN COW'S MILK

Whey: Blood proteins. Bovine serum lactalbumin has been identified as a trigger for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases.

Lactose: Two sugars. Glucose and galactose. Galactose has been indentified as a trigger for glaucoma. There are several columns that cover lactose (covering galactose and galactosemia):

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090599.txt Dr. Gordon: Heart Disease
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/629 Lactose is dangerous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/453 Ben's heart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/396 Female Cancers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/378 Lactose intolerance

Colostrum (cow's first milk): Loaded with hormones, particularly IGF-I, along with loads of immunizing agents for COW DISEASES.

Answers courtesy of the NOTMILKMAN. (notmilkman@notmilk.com)

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"It's not natural for humans to drink cow's milk. Humans milk is for humans. Cow's milk is for calves. You have no more need of cow's milk than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant's milk. Cow's milk is a high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400 lb cow. That's what cow's milk is for!" --Dr Michael Klaper MD

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Say 'No Way' To
Milk Whey Protein
From Robert Cohen
notmilk@earthlink.net
9-8-2
After fat and casein are removed from milk, dairy processors are left with whey protein. Whey is composed of bovine blood proteins. Serum albumen. Lactalbumen. Dead white blood cells. Hormonal residues including estrogen and progesterone.

The body's reaction to a foreign protein is to destroy that antigen-like invader with an antibody. For those individuals unfortunate enough to possess a genetic pre-disposition to such an event, the antibody then turns upon one's own cells. That is what is known as an auto-immune response.

In the case of diabetes and Multiple Sclerosis (MS), the body's response to whey proteins is to attack the outer membrane protecting nerve cells, or the myelin sheath.

It has long been established that early exposure to bovine proteins is a trigger for insulin dependent diabetes mellitus. Researchers have made that same milk consumption connection to MS. The July 30, 1992 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine first reported the diabetes autoimmune response milk connection:

"Patients with insulin dependent diabetes mellitus produce antibodies to cow milk proteins that participate in the development of islet dysfunction... Taken as a whole, our findings suggest that an active response in patients with IDDM (to the bovine protein) is a feature of the auto-immune response."

On December 14, 1996, The Lancet revealed:

"Cow's milk proteins are unique in one respect: in industrialized countries they are the first foreign proteins entering the infant gut, since most formulations for babies are cow milk-based. The first pilot stage of our IDD prevention study found that oral exposure to dairy milk proteins in infancy resulted in both cellular and immune response...this suggests the possible importance of the gut immune system to the pathogenesis of IDD."

THE MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS/MILK CONNECTION

The April 1, 2001 issue of the Journal of Immunology contained a study linking MS to milk consumption.

Michael Dosch, M.D., and his team of researchers determined that multiple sclerosis and type I (juvenile) diabetes mellitus are far more closely linked than previously thought. Dosch attributes exposure to cow milk protein as a risk factor in the development of both diseases for people who are genetically susceptible. According to Dosch:

"We found that immunologically, type I diabetes and multiple sclerosis are almost the same - in a test tube you can barely tell the two diseases apart. We found that the autoimmunity was not specific to the organ system affected by the disease. Previously it was thought that in MS autoimmunity would develop in the central nervous system, and in diabetes it would only be found in the pancreas. We found that both tissues are targeted in each disease."

MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS

Multiple sclerosis affects approximately 300,000 Americans. Two-thirds of those diagnosed with MS are women. Most researchers believe that MS is an autoimmune disease. Auto means "self."

WHO DOES NOT GET MS?

It is interesting to note that Eskimos and Bantus (50 million individuals living in East Africa) rarely get MS. Neither do those native North and South American Indian or Asian populations who consume no cow's milk or dairy products.

WHO GETS MS?

The British medical journal Lancet reported that dairy-rich diets filled have been closely linked to the development of MS. (The Lancet 1974;2:1061)

A study published in the journal Neuroepidemiology revealed an association between eating dairy foods and an increased prevalence of MS. (Neuroepidemiology 1992;11:304Â-12.)

MS researcher, Luther Lindner, M.D., a pathologist at Texas A & M University College of Medicine, wrote:

"It might be prudent to limit the intake of milk and milk products."

Women are targeted by dairy industry scare tactics that offer misinformation regarding osteoporosis. Two-thirds of MS victims are women. As milk and cheese consumption increase along population lines, so too does an epidemic number of MS cases. The numbers add up. The clues add up. The science supports epidemiological studies. Got diabetes? Got MS? The milk connection has been established.

Whey protein? Say no way!

Robert Cohen
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The Pus-Bacteria Moustache
Marketing Milk & Disease
By John McDougall, MD
(65 references)
6-11-3

The Dairy Industry is really big business, with sales of over $11 billion for milk and $16 billion for cheese annually in the USA alone, so you might expect hard line marketing from them, but would you expect them to aggressively sell their products if they were known to be harmful to people, especially to women and children?

The Dairy Management Inc., whose purpose is to build demand for dairy products on behalf of America's 80,000-plus dairy producers, has just released the Dairy Checkoff 2003 Unified Marketing Plan (UMP) with a budget of $165.7 million. (1)

The United Marketing Plan explains, "This ongoing program area (referring to the section Dairy Image/Confidence) aims to protect and enhance consumer confidence in dairy products and the dairy industry. A major component involves conducting and communicating the results of dairy nutrition research showing the healthfulness of dairy products, as well as issues and crisis management." (1)(Most likely, I fall under the heading of "issues and crisis management.")

A significant portion of the money from the 2003 Unified Marketing Plan is specifically targeted to children ages 6 to 12 and their mothers. The goal is "to guide school-age children to become life-long consumers of dairy products, 2003 activities will target students, parents, educators and school foodservice professionals." (1) (Similar words and intentions have been attributed to the tobacco industry.) All this marketing is working, too: annual fluid milk consumption among kids 6 to 12 increased to 28 gallons per capita, the highest level in 10 years. Children under 18 drink 46% of the milk consumed in the USA.

Realize that when I say milk in this article, I'm also implicating all dairy products that are made from milk: non-fat milk, low-fat milk, buttermilk, cheeses, cottage cheese, yogurt, ice cream, whey, kefir, and butter. All of them share a similar nutritional profile (plus or minus the fat, protein, and sugar), and as a result, all of them contribute to a wide range of health problems.

Will the UMP Inform You of the Contamination? E. Coli, AIDS and Leukemia Viruses?

Last month I left you with some very disturbing facts about the contamination of milk with loads of bacteria and millions of white blood cells (pus cells) which are there to help fight off the infections found in cows and milk (see the April 2003 Newsletter found at http://www.drmcdougall.com ).

Will the 2003 Unified Marketing Plan specify money to inform you of this upsetting information? You will never see an advertisement with a famous movie star proudly wearing a white mustache, properly labeled as containing 300,000 white blood cells and 25,000 bacteria.

Dairy products were the foods most often recalled by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) from the period October 1, 1993 through September 30, 1998 because of contamination with infectious agents, mostly bacteria. (2)

They are commonly tainted with disease-causing bacteria, such as salmonella, staphylococci, listeria, deadly E. coli O1573 and Mycobacterium paratuberculosis (4) (possibly one of the agents causing Crohn's disease; a form of life-threatening chronic colitis), as well as viruses known to cause lymphoma and leukemia-like diseases, and immune deficiency in cattle.

AIDS and Leukemia Viruses Dairy cattle are infected with bovine immunodeficiency viruses (BIV) and bovine leukemia viruses (BLV), worldwide. (Bovine immunodeficiency viruses can also be properly referred to as bovine AIDS viruses.)

In the United States, results show an average 40% of beef herds and 64% of dairy herds are infected with BIV. (5)

In Canada (6-7), the infection rate is 70% and in Argentina (8) the rate is 84% for BLV.

Herds infected with the BIV are usually infected with the leukemia virus (BLV) also. (5)

Both viruses can cross species lines thus infecting other animals, like sheep, goats, and chimpanzees â*" and they develop disease. (5)

Nationwide and worldwide, leukemia is more common in the higher dairy consuming populations. (9,10)

An increased incidence of leukemia has been found among dairy farmers in multiple studies. (11-14)

BIV infection has been reported in a person. (15)

The bovine leukemia virus has been classified in the same group as the Human T-cell Leukemia/Lymphotropic virus type 1 (HTLV-1), which is known to cause leukemia and lymphomas in humans (Adult T-cell leukemia/lymphoma). (16)

BIV is structurally and genetically closely related to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) type-1 (the virus causing human AIDS). (17)

Pasteurization kills many types of microorganisms, but it is not foolproof. There is also concern that pasteurization may break the viruses into fragments that may become even more dangerous. (18)

Has it been shown that the bovine AIDS and/or leukemia viruses will infect you and cause disease? No. Nor has it been proved that they will not. Compared to the efforts to try to convince you of the bone-building benefits of milk, almost nothing has been spent to establish whether or not it is safe to feed your family dairy products teeming with bovine immunodeficiency and bovine leukemia viruses (and/or viral fragments). Some countries take this matter very seriously. For example, in many European countries, health officials have conducted programs to eradicate infected herds; Finland' program has successfully eradicated BLV from its cattle. (19)

If you live in a region with a high incidence of herd infection with these viruses you can be pretty sure you will be consuming dairy products containing whole viruses or fragments of these viruses, since the milk from many dairy farms is mixed in large vats at the dairy factory before processing and packaging. Since the industry will not act responsibly in many countries, consumers are left with one choice: eliminate all dairy products from their diet. If eliminating dairy products would prevent even a small risk of human disease, it would be well worthwhile, especially since, as you learned in the April 2003 McDougall Newsletter, they are completely unnecessary for excellent health.

Will the UMP Market the Pain and Suffering Caused Children?

The Dairy Management Inc. has specifically targeted children in their campaign. (1) This will raise no public concern, because most people consider cow's milk the healthiest of all food choices, especially when it comes to children. Over 25% of children are overweight in Western countries and cow's milk, cheese, yogurt, ice cream, butter, and sour cream, with all their fat and calories, contribute greatly to this deadly epidemic. Many of these overweight children are now developing type-2 diabetes. However, the most common variety of diabetes found in children is still type-1 or insulin dependent diabetes (IDDM).

Type-1 Diabetes The evidence incriminating cow's milk consumption in the cause of type-1 diabetes is sufficient to cause the American Academy of Pediatrics to issue these warnings, "Early exposure of infants to cow's milk protein may be an important factor in the initiation of the beta cell (insulin-producing cells of the pancreas) destructive process in some individuals." (20) "The avoidance of cow's milk protein for the first several months of life may reduce the later development of IDDM or delay its onset in susceptible people." (20)

Exposure to cow's milk protein early in life, when the intestinal tract is immature, sometimes results in the milk protein entering the blood stream where antibodies to this foreign substance, cow's milk, are made by the immune system. Unfortunately, these same antibodies also attack the insulin- producing cells of the pancreas. By glassful of milk after spoonful of ice cream, over a period of about 5 to 7 years, the child destroys his or her own pancreas â*" and is left with a lifelong, life-threatening, handicap: diabetes. The pancreas is forever destroyed and the child will have to take insulin shots daily. Complications, such as blindness, kidney failure, and heart disease will be a real threat during his or her shortened lifespan.(See my July 2002 McDougall Newsletter for a discussion of type-1 diabetes).

Constipation Not as life-threatening as diabetes, but for some as mentally and physically distressing, is chronic constipation. As a doctor who has cared for hundreds of children, I can tell you they suffer with pain, bleeding, hemorrhoids, and embarrassment. The causal effects of cowâ*s milk were clearly demonstrated in a study of 65 severely constipated children published in the New England Journal of Medicine. (21)

These boys and girls complained of only one bowel movement every 3 to 15 days and many didn't even respond to strong laxatives (lactulose and mineral oil). Forty-four of the 65 (68%) found relief of their constipation when taken off the cow's milk. Evidence of inflammation of the bowel was found on biopsy, and anal fissures and pain were commonly associated with the constipation "elimination of the cow's milk solved these problems."

When cow's milk was reintroduced into their diet 8 to 12 months later, all of the children developed constipation within 5 to 10 days. For constipation alone, cow's milk should be banned from the School Milk Programs, worldwide.

Rhinitis and Otitis Media The multitude of snotty-nosed kids frequently visiting the pediatrician's office for ear infections is much more obvious than the constipated crowd, and these problems less devastating than type-1 diabetes, but these complaints also can be due to consuming the foreign proteins intended for calves. (22-25) In addition, these same children are likely to suffer from gastroesophageal reflux, asthma and/or eczema from their unnatural habit of drinking cow's milk.

Diseases of Foreign Protein Many conditions can be traced back to reactions to cow's milk. Milk contains more than 25 different proteins that can induce adverse reactions in humans. (26) Our immune system perceives these foreign proteins as alien invaders, like a virus or bacteria, and launches an attack in response, as in the case of type-1 diabetes discussed above and many other allergic and autoimmune diseases.

DISEASES CAUSED BY, OR LINKED TO, DAIRY PROTEINS General: Loss of appetite, growth retardation. Upper Gastrointestinal: Canker sores (aphthous stomatitis), irritation of tongue, lips and mouth, tonsil enlargement, vomiting, gastroesophageal reflux (GERD), Sandifer's syndrome, peptic ulcer disease, colic, stomach cramps, abdominal distention, intestinal obstruction, type-1 diabetes. Lower Gastrointestinal: Bloody stools, colitis, malabsorption, diarrhea, painful defecation, fecal soiling, infantile colic, chronic constipation, infantile food protein-induced enterocolitis syndrome (FPIES), Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis. Respiratory: Nasal stuffiness, runny nose, otitis media (inner ear trouble), sinusitis, wheezing, asthma, and pulmonary infiltrates. Bone and joint: Rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, Beheta's disease, (possibly psoriatic arthritis and ankylosing spondylitis). Skin: Rashes, atopic dermatitis, eczema, seborrhea, hives (urticaria) Nervous System (Behavioral): Multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, autism, schizophrenia, irritability, restlessness, hyperactivity, headache, lethargy, fatigue, "allergic-tension fatigue syndrome," muscle pain, mental depression, enuresis (bed-wetting). Blood: Abnormal blood clotting, iron deficiency anemia, low serum proteins, thrombocytopenia, and eosinophilia. Other: Nephrotic syndrome, glomerulonephritis, anaphylactic shock and death, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS or crib or cot death), injury to the arteries causing arteritis, and eventually, atherosclerosis. References are available through the National Library of Medicine, http://www.nlm.nih.gov - Search cow's milk and any of the diseases listed above.

All dairy products contain milk proteins, including skim milk, yogurt, cheese, and butter, and many butter substitutes. Milk proteins are listed in packaged food products with a variety of names, such as milk solids, skim milk powder, casein, caseinates, whey, and albumin. Milk is also often put into packaged foods and not declared on the label - this is illegal and punishable by FDA action.

Even with all of this disease in children the American School Food Service Association and the dairy industry have developed a School Milk Pilot Test to demonstrate that kids will drink more milk in school if certain product enhancements are made. (27)

The result was milk sales increased by an average of 18 percent and consumption increased by 35 percent when schools provided flavored milks and other package enhancements. (28)

The UMP Will Try to Deceive You about the Fattening Nature of Dairy Foods.

"Independent research confirming dairy's role in weight reduction is mounting," said Dr. Greg Miller, senior vice president of nutrition and scientific affairs for the Dairy Checkoff. (29) "This helps to position dairy foods as part of the solution to America's growing obesity epidemic." And Miller added, "Informing the public about dairy's role in the fight against obesity will help increase consumption of milk, cheese and yogurt, among other dairy products."

Shouldn't the idea of milk acting as an "antiobesity" food strike you as fundamentally contradictory? After all, the biologic purpose of cow's milk is to provide large amounts of energy and nutrients to grow the young animal from 60 to 600 pounds. So how does milk become a weight loss product in the 21st century? This idea began with the observation that underprivileged people, who have poor diets in general, are often obese, and also consume few dairy products. (30) Some experiments that followed showed people and animals on calorie- restricted diets lost a small amount of extra weight when calcium or dairy foods were part of their diet.

The "antiobesity" effects of dairy are difficult to explain, but may be due to calcium binding fat in the intestine, preventing its absorption. (30)

A thorough search of the literature for properly designed studies shows only one of 17 randomized studies found weight loss in people taking calcium pills, and of the nine randomized studies where fluid milk was added, two showed significant weight gain, and none showed significant loss. (31)

In one study funded by a grant from the International Dairy Foods Association, 204 healthy men and women were asked to increase their intake of skim or 1% milk by three cups a day for 12 weeks; those consuming the extra milk gained an average of 1.32 pounds (0.6 Kg). (32) Can you imagine what their weight gain would have been if they had been asked to add whole milk, cheese, butter, and ice cream to their diet, instead of skim and low-fat 1% milk?

The result of all this research was well summed up by one of the dairy industry's frequent spokespersons at the Dairy Management Inc. sponsored Symposium: Dairy Product Components and Weight Regulation, held April 21, 2002 in New Orleans, with this statement, "In conclusion, the data available from randomized trials of dairy product or calcium supplementation provide little support for an effect in reducing body weight or fat mass." (31)

Yet the consumer will hear from Dr. Miller and the rest of the industry, eat more dairy products and you will lose weight.

Dairy products are loaded with fats that are easily stored under your skin as "body fat." The fats in the cold glass of milk, the little bite of cheese, and that small bowl of ice cream will move from your lips to your hips effortlessly. In fact, it moves with so little effort that the chemical structure of the fat isn't even changed. Cow's milk contains a unique kind of fat with double bonds located at the C-15 and C-17 position on the fat's carbon chain. Examination of a person's fatty (adipose) tissues following a biopsy will show the amount of this kind of fat present, which will be in direct proportion to the amount of dairy products the person consumes. (33)

All that fat the dairy industry asks us to eat is associated with higher risks of heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, and breast, prostate, uterine and colon cancer. Yet, as a marketing scheme, the dairy industry has teamed up with the National Medical Association to write articles about "the role of dairy in helping reduce the risk of heart disease, hypertension, and other serious health issues." (34)

The National Medical Association promotes the collective interests of physicians and patients of African descent. Please explain to me how this association came about when the vast majority of people of African descent (80% to 90%) cannot drink milk because of lactose intolerance; causing them diarrhea, stomach cramps and gas. (35)

Not only is this dairy fat unattractively worn and a health hazard, but it is also a source of large quantities of environmental chemicals, like dioxins and DDT, that affect your health and the health of a mother's offspring during pregnancy and nursing. (36) One reason a young girl needs to start thinking about a healthier diet early is because the accumulation of these chemicals in her own body fat occurs over her entire lifetime.

The UMP Will Try to Confuse You about Bone Health and Animal Protein

Osteoporosis is caused by several factors; however, the most important one is diet; especially the amount of animal protein and acid in the foods we eat. (37-39 0 The high acid foods are meat, poultry, fish, seafood, and hard cheeses, parmesan cheese is the most acidic of all foods commonly consumed." (40)

Once consumed, this food-derived acid must be neutralized in the body. Fruits and vegetables can do this neutralizing (these foods are alkaline in nature). However, because the diet of the average Westerner is so deficient in fruits and vegetables and so high in acid foods, the primary neutralizer of dietary acid becomes their bones. The bones dissolve to release alkaline materials.

Worldwide, the highest rates of hip fractures are among populations that consume the most animal food (including dairy products) like people from the USA, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, etc. (41,42) The lowest rates are among people who eat little or no dairy foods (these people are on lower calcium diets) like people from rural Asia and rural Africa. (41,42)

The basic experiments published in the 1980s clearly show protein causes bone loss, and calcium offers little or no protection. (43) Even the foremost scientists hired by the dairy industry know protein is harmful to the bones. (44) In my April 2003 Newsletter I explained there was only one properly designed study testing the effects of fluid milk on the bone health of postmenopausal women, and the results were: those who received the extra milk for a year lost more bone than those who didn't drink the milk. (44) The authors, funded by the National Dairy Council, explained in their paper, "The protein content of the milk supplement may have a negative effect on calcium balance, possibly through an increase in kidney losses of calcium or through a direct effect on bone resorption." Trying to explain why those receiving the milk were in worse calcium balance, they said, "this may have been due to the average 30 percent increase in protein intake during milk supplementation."

Unfortunately, all this damning information does not sit well with the powerful dairy industry, so they have started the "3-A-Day of Dairy" program to battle the calcium crisis in America by promoting milk, cheese and yogurt for "stronger bones" and they have been busy doing their own research to prove protein is good for the bones. (45-48)

Regrettably for them, their designing means were just revealed in the May 2003 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. (49) The article in this journal exposed the way they made the results show protein is good for the bones. To devise research that appears to contradict hundreds of articles published over the past 35 years, you only have to provide sufficient alkaline material in the diet of the people being studied to neutralize the acid from the animal foods. This was accomplished by studying populations that have diets high in neutralizing fruits and vegetables; the other approach employed was to add a strong alkali source to the experiment, such as an antacid pill (wafer), calcium citrate (like Citracal).

Once the acid from the food is neutralized, then any bone building factors that might be present in meat and dairy can exert their effects. High protein foods, and especially dairy foods, raise the levels of a powerful growth-stimulating hormone in the body, called insulin-like growth factor-1 or IGF-1. Stimulation of bone growth by this hormone is now being offered as the reason dairy products build strong bones. It has long been necessary for them to find a more scientifically supportable explanation, because the bulk of the research shows the calcium in dairy foods has little or no benefit for bone health. (50-52)

The UMP Will Not Promote the Fact that IGF-1 is a Powerful Cancer Promoter

Consumption of animal products increases the levels of insulin-like growth factor-1 in your body. However, modern dairy technology has made dairy products an even more potent source of this growth stimulant. Since 1985, U.S. dairy farmers have been allowed to inject cows with recombinant bovine growth hormone (rbGH), a genetically engineered bovine growth hormone that increases milk production. RbGH treatment produces an increase in IGF-1 in cow's milk, by as much as 10-fold. (53,54) IGF-1 is not destroyed by pasteurization. (53) The overall effect is that milk seems to raise IGF-1 levels in people more than any other component of our diet. (55)

The direct evidence of the effects of cow's milk on IGF-1 levels in people has been provided by the dairy industry's own efforts. Two recent studies, one on adolescent girls and the other on post-menopausal women, showed increasing milk consumption actually raises plasma levels of IGF-1 in the person's body by an average of 10%. (56,57)

Their take on this is, "this is a beneficial effecT" because IGF-1 stimulates bone growth. But, the actual lasting consequences should deliver the final deathblow to dairy products: IGF-1 promotes the growth of cancer. This growth promoter has been strongly linked to the development of cancer of the breast, prostate, lung, and colon. (58) Excess IGF-1 stimulates cell proliferation and inhibits cell death - two activities you definitely don't want when cancer cells are involved. (58)

There is more to cancer promotion by dairy foods than IGF-1. Most dairy products are high in saturated fat - and fat is the number one suspect when it comes to the cause of most common cancers in Western societies (for example, breast, prostate, colon, kidney, pancreas). Recent studies have linked the sugar (lactose) and fat in milk with ovarian cancer, (59,60) and the calcium in milk lowers concentrations of a specific form of vitamin D that protects against prostate cancer, raising men's overall risk. (61,62) (See my February 2003 Newsletter for more information on diet and prostate cancer.) Hormones (estrogens) are also involved in cancers of reproductive organs, like breast and uterine cancer. There are several reasons dairy products raise a woman's hormone levels causing a variety of hormone-dependent problems from early onset of menstruation (menarche) to PMS and uterine fibroids - but one is unique to cow's milk. Cows are milked even while they are pregnant. As a result of the pregnancy, cows secrete high levels of estrogen into their milk. (63)

Will the UMP Advertise that Dairy Is Simply Liquid Meat?

Red meat has become a "dirty word" when it comes to health. At the opposite end of the spectrum of opinions on food is cow's milk - one of the world'S most trusted foods. Do you remember the "Basic Four Food Groups?" Dairy was usually placed first in this chart which was hung in every schoolroom (and by no coincidence the dairy industry also provided the chart).

Dairy products are deficient in iron and beef is deficient in calcium; both contain too little dietary fiber, essential fat (linoleic acid), and vitamin C and B3 (niacin) to meet human nutritional requirements. (64) Heavy consumption of either of these food groups - loaded with fat and cholesterol - will result in the diseases common to affluent societies, such as obesity, heart disease, strokes, type-2 diabetes and cancer, to name just a few serious problems. (65)

If a patient bargained with me, "I'll give up only one of the first two food groups "meat or milk" - hopes of getting well," my recommendation for almost all common health problems in Western society would be, "You're likely to get the most benefits if you give up the dairy products."

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[akana]

Excellent post, Domathy!

[domathy]

Excellent post, Domathy!

Thanks :D

[akana]

Thanks :D

Yw. I've also read from Dr Joel Furhman's book that animal protein, and not just animal fat, contributes to cholesterol. he said something like "animal protein is hyper-cholesterolific" or something like that. well you get the drift.

http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/conquer_cholesterol.aspx

[domathy]

Domathy, can you elaborate on the moon part of your post please? I've never heard that we only have seasons cuz of the moon. In any case, that's interesting.

This guy can explain way better than me:

http://youtu.be/JFQqKtWj_qY?t=7m5s

But the moon holds this planet at a strange angle and we are 22 degrees off our
correct axis and this is why we even have seasons.
Ancient accounts say that before the moon arrived we didnt have seasons, women didnt menstruate and so on. We had a constant canopy of water vapour above the earth which protected us from the glare of the sun and temperature extremes. Plus we were telepathic and didnt eat food and were on friendly terms with the animals. Then the lizards turned up with the moon and hence in the bible God (or the 'gods' ie big lizard folk) taught us about the seasons and how to speak. Its a long story, but the link above will shed some light on what the moon is really about. :eek: :D

[akana]

This guy can explain way better than me:

http://youtu.be/JFQqKtWj_qY?t=7m5s

But the moon holds this planet at a strange angle and we are 22 degrees off our
correct axis and this is why we even have seasons.
Ancient accounts say that before the moon arrived we didnt have seasons, women didnt menstruate and so on. We had a constant canopy of water vapour above the earth which protected us from the glare of the sun and temperature extremes. Plus we were telepathic and didnt eat food and were on friendly terms with the animals. Then the lizards turned up with the moon and hence in the bible God (or the 'gods' ie big lizard folk) taught us about the seasons and how to speak. Its a long story, but the link above will shed some light on what the moon is really about. :eek: :D

thanks for the link. going to watch that interview now.

and omg im so mad :mad:.

i bet we had a close relationship to plants also. shamans or what not.

[domathy]

Yw. I've also read from Dr Joel Furhman's book that animal protein, and not just animal fat, contributes to cholesterol. he said something like "animal protein is hyper-cholesterolific" or something like that. well you get the drift.

http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/conquer_cholesterol.aspx

Well, cholesterol is protective, so the body produces cholesterol to buffer acid and keep your organs safe. Meat is acidic so the body makes cholesteol to buffer acid. Hence why cholesterol will always return to normal on a pH diet.
Cholesterol is nothing to do with fat - its all about acid. Cooked fat happens to be acidic and will raise cholesterol, but raw fats wont (they will actually lower it)
But its a false correlation to say fat causes high cholesterol in the body.

They did studies with pigs on a zero fat diet and they induced high cholesterol using fungal contaminated corn. The pigs were generating cholesterol as a protective mechanism against the acid and fungal mycotoxins in the corn.

So yes, all animal products are acid forming and provoke the body to make cholesterol. If the animal was fed on grains then the fat deposits will be full of concentrated acids and mycotoxins from the 'fattening up' process (the livestock get fat from all the acid in grains - and the acid is parked in fat deposits) But from pasture fed animals probably the fat is less acid than the flesh.

[domathy]

thanks for the link. going to watch that interview now.

and omg im so mad :mad:.

i bet we had a close relationship to plants also. shamans or what not.

Me too :mad: :D

And yes, it sounded proper nice before 'goddess' moon arrived.

[plam]

Raw Meat: Alkaline Or Acidic? (http://www.ubscure.com/Art/148133/89/Raw-Meat-Alkaline-Or-Acidic.html) :rolleyes:

[lighthouse]

When the Inuits were on the line,
you mentioned life expectancy.
When I mentioned it, you start talking about quality of life.

Well, I don't see any quality in obssesing with every bite I take. :confused:

You really can't handle the possibility you could be wrong...
48h of migrene because of "detoxicating", and I'm stupid
because of a cup of milk.
I think that fame has gotten to you. :D
Domathy the alkalizer! :p
But go on with your thread,
you are so convinced in every word that comes out of your keyboard,
there's no point.
Your a man of extremes, first junk food and drugs,
now just veggies.
I'm more of a middle way type, because I know it will
sway to the other extreme sooner or later.
Good trips and bad trips, they both end eventually.

I can accept the fact most people eat such amounts of shit
that they need a revelation on the fact that they cannot
feed themselves in McDonalds.
Well, keep spreading the word then. :cool:
It's better to eat too much avocados, then too much cheeseburgers.

(And learn to quote properly, please.) ;)

[theramblingpoet]

And good Luck to you! :)
(now i'd be willing to bet you didnt read my article)

Are you going to presume to tell me the context my own writing comes from I was backing what you basically said ...all be it in LAMANS terms but none the less anyhoo.
oh oops I guess I didn't read the article ruh roh raggy I thought out of line I spoke outa context I am only american after all Fuch em if the can't take a joke and joke em if they can't take a fuch eeeeks!

[theramblingpoet]

So my great uncle lived to 106 and drank and smoked like a sailor in a whore house and my great grandmother lived to be 109 so I'm thinking I'm pretty close to the life longevity fire my friend do I really want to live that long? HELL NO I really don't relish the thought of dealing with stupid people for 100 years I wanna hurry up and get the hell outa here!

[akana]

Domathy has 'turned me' into 100% all veggies too, minimal grains/legumes. I feel much better now, thanks. I must add that I will include a slice of sprouted bread once in a while.

I made my first green / avocado-base smoothie today, with spinach, cucumber, and green pepper. Then I had green juice. And I love drinking bicarb w/ lime, it tastes fizzy and just like lime seltzer water, where I can barely taste the sodium at all.

I finally found the diet that I can feel good about, and not to mention that my ghrelin hormone (a newly-discovered hunger hormone, produced in the stomach) is completely under control... this is the best part of the diet, because I am not hungry, and after my sugar/fruit detox, I don't even want it (the sugary stuff).

And I don't feel that I'm 'missing out' on the other food, not at all. I feel satisfied, and I feel grateful to Domathy. May Jah bless you along your way, Domathy

[domathy]

Raw Meat: Alkaline Or Acidic? (http://www.ubscure.com/Art/148133/89/Raw-Meat-Alkaline-Or-Acidic.html) :rolleyes:

Acid - hence why animals in the wild eat intestines full of grass before they eat muscle etc. Hence why cats eat grass - especilly when fed tinned food.

When the Inuits were on the line,
you mentioned life expectancy.
When I mentioned it, you start talking about quality of life.

I was just meeting plam on his own terms. To me personally, quality of life is most important. But a good measure of a good diet is longevity, quality of life plus lots of other way you can measure a persons health.
Well, I don't see any quality in obssesing with every bite I take. :confused:

Stop projecting!! Seriously, this fear of food is a reflection of you.
I only think about food when im eating it. I used to think about food and snacks
all day long such was the state of my blood sugar issues. Now i burn on fat and i feel full and stable for hours. I have to remind myself to eat enough calories as i have a fast metabolism and burn food quickly and have a tendency to lose muscle if i dont eat enough. I enjoy food - and i dont suffer with greed or guilt. I enjoy vegetables - seriously - i get stressed if i cant have vegetables, this diet is not a deprivation for me so just chill.

You really can't handle the possibility you could be wrong...
48h of migrene because of "detoxicating", and I'm stupid
because of a cup of milk.
I didnt call you stupid, just that im not prepared to discard 8 years of objective observations with regards to the pH diet (not to mention the fact Dr Youngs theories make total sense on paper). YOU really cant handle the possibility that Im not obsessive and that this diet may actually be very healthy. You dont know what ive seen and witnessed from sharing this approach with people so i have no option but to label you as ignorant. Sure lots of obsessive people are attracted to this diet who want to control how they feel through obsessing about food - but as you know, i address this in my article. I am aware of my emotional issues and where i have blocks, addictions and obsessions - thanks to lots of meditation i am very good at observing myself and what is coming from a place of fear/control and what is not. I am very tuned into my body too. This diet is not dangerous - people are dangrous. There will always be 'obsessive' people but im not going to withhold information just so they dont win a darwin award. Often, these 'obsessive' people, once their body chemistry adjusts - they become more balanced. I said in my article i was funny with food in the beginning (using food as a means of controlling how i feel), but not any more (well, i still have chocolate - and thats about killing boredom). And lots of everyday, non obsessive people use this approach to achieve excellent health.
I think that fame has gotten to you. :D
Dont make me laugh. I wrote an article and posted it thinking no one would read - but people like the thread so i have made the effort to answer questions.
My ego is more in check than you might think (although i like nothing more than showing critics up :p) If you care to go back through the pages you will see the same familiar faces. This thread (until you come throwing your weight around saving people from their saviour as you call it) has been a place where similar, like minded people have got together to share ideas. This is not a place where people are 'converted'. You seem to get anxious whenever 'too many' people happen to agree on the same thing - like you need to barge in an restore balance like the hero of debate. But at the same time i do understand and appreciate your concerns - but your approach is blunt and your stlye is too aggressive and prejudiced.
I like this thread because i do this (blood testing/pH diet) for a living, and most of the time i work with sheeple (who often dont want to take responsibility for their health and i have to censor what i say). So, its nice to be here with like minded people, who i think of as friends (not followers or disciples - contrary to your implications) where i can air my views and they share their views. I like the sense of community here and thats what this thread is about. I spent years looking/searching for this missing link (pH balance), and i am very happy to share it with people who also have been looking for a missing link. In my daily life its not so much fun as sheeple just want to get rid of their symptom so they can continue thier ignorance in comfort - not interested in liberating themselves. I want to help people who want to liberate themselves but are held back by health problems or low energy. So feel free to make your presence known here, but most people here would rather we got back on topic and continue sharing recepies.

Domathy the alkalizer! :p
But go on with your thread,
you are so convinced in every word that comes out of your keyboard,
there's no point.
Your a man of extremes, first junk food and drugs,
now just veggies.
I'm more of a middle way type, because I know it will
sway to the other extreme sooner or later.
Good trips and bad trips, they both end eventually.

I went to extremes junk food drugs and then was obsessive about 'detoxing' and yes, i was very imbalanced (hospitalised myself from fasting - didnt know about pH balance back then) - anyone who knows me will confirm. So i went from one extreme to another. Now for the past few years i have a very healthy relationship with food and with my body - and people who used to be concerned about me are now coming for advice as they see the changes in me.
I can accept the fact most people eat such amounts of shit
that they need a revelation on the fact that they cannot
feed themselves in McDonalds.
Well, keep spreading the word then. :cool:
It's better to eat too much avocados, then too much cheeseburgers.

now youre getting it :)

(And learn to quote properly, please.) ;)


I dont know how to quote properly :(

[domathy]

Are you going to presume to tell me the context my own writing comes from I was backing what you basically said ...all be it in LAMANS terms but none the less anyhoo.
oh oops I guess I didn't read the article ruh roh raggy I thought out of line I spoke outa context I am only american after all Fuch em if the can't take a joke and joke em if they can't take a fuch eeeeks!

Understand you I don't. Talk like yoda you do :)
Im half American btw :p

So my great uncle lived to 106 and drank and smoked like a sailor in a whore house and my great grandmother lived to be 109 so I'm thinking I'm pretty close to the life longevity fire my friend do I really want to live that long? HELL NO I really don't relish the thought of dealing with stupid people for 100 years I wanna hurry up and get the hell outa here!

Genetics is a big factor. My gran just broke her back and fought off pnumonia at 94 - so Im all good too.
But sounds like you have depression if you cant stand the heat on earth :p
Anyway: (from the FAQ section)
Is there any evidence that people live longer on this diet?
“Its all very confusing, I know a guy who is in his 80's and he eats really unhealthy but he is healthy. He is also a heavy smoker”

Firstly, there are many people who do get sick and so for those who do develop a terminal disease, this diet has proved to be able to restore health.

But in general its difficult to answer the question of longevity for the average person as the ‘pH Miracle diet’ was only created in the past 20-30 years. But, there is much to suggest that this way of eating will extend life or at the very least will improve quality of life. I trained with Dr Young and the last time I checked, his bone density was still increasing well into his 50's and that's a pretty good sign this approach works as bone density normally peaks at age 30. This diet is adapted for the modern world and was created to meet the needs of people today. It takes into account the corruption of specific foods in modern food production and is designed to compensate for the acidic world we now live in. In the old days meat was not poisoned, dairy was raw and livestock Pasture fed, also for the old generation, genetics had not been damaged by antibiotics and atmospheric radiation so these oldies who smoke and drink tend to have very strong constitution. People born after WW2 were more likely to be formula fed and subjected to radiation, pesticides, vaccines, antibiotics etc – and are generally weaker. The only reason we are living longer is improved sanitation plus other factors. So, the pH balance helps to compensate for all the challenges we are up against.

To be honest I’m feeling great now and that’s what’s important to me. We all know someone who smokes etc and lives to an old age. But maybe we need to re evaluate our definition of health? Its one thing to survive, and not get cancer but it is quite another thing to thrive and be full of energy. I have lots of energy for physical activity, never ever get ill and haven’t had a doctor for over 8 years now.

Serious longevity (over 120 yrs) is not likely in this day and age (IMO) but this approach is the best way to stay on an even keel and upward trend.

[domathy]

Domathy has 'turned me' into 100% all veggies too, minimal grains/legumes. I feel much better now, thanks. I must add that I will include a slice of sprouted bread once in a while.

I made my first green / avocado-base smoothie today, with spinach, cucumber, and green pepper. Then I had green juice. And I love drinking bicarb w/ lime, it tastes fizzy and just like lime seltzer water, where I can barely taste the sodium at all.

See, the problem people have with this diet is they assume (assumption being the mother of all F**k-ups) that you are torturing yourself with the food you mentioned above. I seriously love green smoothies and i love green juices! Cucumber, celery and a bit of carrot is really sweet. But people with dead taste buds cannot appreciate the subtle sweet flavors in vegetalbes. The project their fear and disgust and dont even stop to ask if you enjoy this stuff. And as for the lemon/lime drink its so nice and morish and always hits the spot. Plam was joking about how the people juicing veg make it sound hype like a rock concert - but i really do get excited about veg - it deserves enthusiasm :D

I finally found the diet that I can feel good about, and not to mention that my ghrelin hormone (a newly-discovered hunger hormone, produced in the stomach) is completely under control... this is the best part of the diet, because I am not hungry, and after my sugar/fruit detox, I don't even want it (the sugary stuff).

Also it combats the yeast overgrowth which is responsible for sugar cravings (ie the yeast eats your blood sugar and so your blood sugar goes through the floor and you get cravings/hunger) - so yes, this is a great way to keep your blood sugar nice and stable throughout the day. Its impossible to really listen to your body when you have chemical imbalances and yeast overgrowth as your body doesnt really know what it want. But when the biology is addressed the body knows wht it wants and when it wants it and you easily become tuned into those signals. You no longer think "hmm, im not sure what i fancy to eat" or "Im not sure what i want" or "im not sure if i should be eating this" - your body knows whats right, and what it needs and the body tells you. Its just a case of conditioning your body, then it remembers what it should be doing.

And I don't feel that I'm 'missing out' on the other food, not at all. I feel satisfied, and I feel grateful to Domathy. May Jah bless you along your way, Domathy


Exactly :) I walk into a supermarket and look at all the junk in pretty packaging and remember what that used to do the my body and mind and im not even tempted. As you will have noticed, as your sugar jaded taste buds heal, you begin to notice the rich but subtly flavors hidden in vegetables that you couldnt see before - and you feel how good you feel when you eat this stuff.
Its not neurotic or obsessive to enjoy vegetables whilst simultaneously working on your health in a world where tptb are throwing everything at us to try and keep us dumbed down.
And blessings to you Akana :)

[akana]

Exactly :) I walk into a supermarket and look at all the junk in pretty packaging and remember what that used to do the my body and mind and im not even tempted. As you will have noticed, as your sugar jaded taste buds heal, you begin to notice the rich but subtly flavors hidden in vegetables that you couldnt see before - and you feel how good you feel when you eat this stuff.
Its not neurotic or obsessive to enjoy vegetables whilst simultaneously working on your health in a world where tptb are throwing everything at us to try and keep us dumbed down.
And blessings to you Akana :)

Irie!

[lighthouse]

Exactly :) I walk into a supermarket and look at all the junk in pretty packaging and remember what that used to do the my body and mind and im not even tempted. As you will have noticed, as your sugar jaded taste buds heal, you begin to notice the rich but subtly flavors hidden in vegetables that you couldnt see before - and you feel how good you feel when you eat this stuff.
Its not neurotic or obsessive to enjoy vegetables whilst simultaneously working on your health in a world where tptb are throwing everything at us to try and keep us dumbed down.
And blessings to you Akana :)

In order to quote properly you need to copy and paste the beggining
(in the square brackets)
and the end of qouted paragraph if you want to divide it.

Regarding the topic...
This all really sounds nice and well, but still extreme.
Just veggies? And remember, this comes from a long term vegetarian.
I love eating vegetables, unlike I don't like eating fruits, or sweet stuff.
But just that?
Just veggies were good for me when I was cutting, and it is,
but that's just hunger all the way, I feel OK,
but my body is feeding of itself, what I bring in that way is not enough.

And man, if you have a job, or you have to spend
your whole day outside, you can't eat like this.
That's why I call it obssesing with food.
If my diet is so strict that I can't grab something on the way,
some take out salad because it's not "organic",
well, fuck it. :D

[domathy]

In order to quote properly you need to copy and paste the beggining
(in the square brackets)
and the end of qouted paragraph if you want to divide it.

Regarding the topic...
This all really sounds nice and well, but still extreme.
Just veggies? And remember, this comes from a long term vegetarian.
I love eating vegetables, unlike I don't like eating fruits, or sweet stuff.
But just that?
Just veggies were good for me when I was cutting, and it is,
but that's just hunger all the way, I feel OK,
but my body is feeding of itself, what I bring in that way is not enough.

And man, if you have a job, or you have to spend
your whole day outside, you can't eat like this.
That's why I call it obssesing with food.
If my diet is so strict that I can't grab something on the way,
some take out salad because it's not "organic",
well, fuck it. :D

Thanks for the tips :)

But you wont go hungry. It sometimes requires preparation but the key is to have lots of fats. Also cook up lentils, beans, millet, quinnoa and make enough to last 24 hrs. As your metabolism fires up youll want to be eating a lot more.
Its only during a cleanse that you go 100% raw/veg. But once your body is cleansed you need to rebuild and construct new cells and the body will get hungry as its demanding more nitrients and building blocks from good sources.
So its important to eat lots and get plenty of calories, its not good to get to the stage where you have a gnawing feeling in the stomach as thats muscle or fat reserves being used for energy ie the body is eating itself. Ill take slices of spelt toast in my car and lentils, millet, quinnoa, avocado, cooked sweet potato, coconut oil - i know its fresher and better (and cheaper) than anything i can buy from shops. THe diet is extreme in the sense that there are lots of foods now which are best to avoid, but only as they are tampered with and not in their original natural state.

[domathy]

Raw Meat: Alkaline Or Acidic? (http://www.ubscure.com/Art/148133/89/Raw-Meat-Alkaline-Or-Acidic.html) :rolleyes:

And maybe the Inuits would live longer if they had some milk :p

[plam]

And maybe the Inuits would live longer if they had some milk :p

The point is that "doctor" youngs has totally discredited himself with ridiculous statements, like - "go on, eat meat, kill yourself, knock yourself out".

I would hold much respect for someone who uses such language.

[domathy]

The point is that "doctor" youngs has totally discredited himself with ridiculous statements, like - "go on, eat meat, kill yourself, knock yourself out".

I would hold much respect for someone who uses such language.

I know, he's too evangelical IMO. He annoys me quite a lot in general - but his theories hold water. its just a question of making this approachable for everyone and not making it seem so exclusive. I think he comes across so strong in his views as he takes a lot of flak so he tends to overkill and maybe be aggressive defensive where his research is concerned. In practice he encourages a balanced approach and many people take years to transition and keep meat and dairy in their diet. Sometimes they quit altogether and sometimes they keep eating meat. Same with my own clients. there is no point in forcing something. But, the truth of the matter is that blood will only run clean on a plant based diet and so the body can only be clean on a plant based diet. But Dr Youngs vision for an alklaine planet is naive because there are so many factors and his vision is just not going to happen. He doesnt understand the illuminati agenda (even though he is from a bloodline family :eek:) nor the
playing field in general. Some people arent ready and have other goals. There are many good people in the world contributing lots in the grand scheme who still eat meat. So i dont agree with the whole black/white thing. But, some people are ready and something inside them requires them to adopt a plant based diet. But most vegans and vegetarians are sick with deficiencies. Dr Youngs diet is the missing link as it focuses on lots and lots of raw fats and lots of chlorophyll. This is where vegetarians fail - not nearly enough greens of oils.
So, for those ready to be veggie/vegan - this is a way to do it without making yourself sick.

But Dr Young is constantly fighting big pharma and other powerful folk in and out of court - so i think i sees himself as a bit of a warrior and thats why he comes across so strong. Plus he's Mormon.

[plam]

Domathy, a while ago I was reading some very interesting article on how biological terrain forms. So looked for it on my computer and found something with regards to this thread.

As anyone agrees on the fact that and overly acidic terrain is no good. When the body stores a molecule of excess acid, it will compensate by placing an extra alkaline molecule in the blood. The blood will therefore become increasingly alkaline (did you know that?).

By being alkaline the blood will increase its uptake of oxygen, which sounds good, but we have the Bohr effect here in play, which means that rising blood alkalinity makes red blood cells saturate themselves with more oxygen. They won't let it go to the cells and they will get deficient of oxygen. Which is a cause for cancer as it thrives in an oxygen deficient environment.

In other words, when the tissue is acidic, we start to ROT.

So far so good with Youngs and your theory BUT ... as we are yin and yang creatures the opposite is also no good i.e. if the body gets alkaline (for that reason the title of this thread, by the way, is wrong).

If the tissues gets too alkaline the body will compensate by making the blood acidic. At this case, the Bohr effect will come into play at tissue level and oxygen uptake increases to the cells, which sounds good but it actually increasing the ageing of the body as oxygen is an oxidizer (agent of rust).

In other words, when the tissue is alkaline, we start to RUST.

So what do we do? Eat meat and green vegetable for a healthy balance! :D

[domathy]

Domathy, a while ago I was reading some very interesting article on how biological terrain forms. So looked for it on my computer and found something with regards to this thread.

As anyone agrees on the fact that and overly acidic terrain is no good. When the body stores a molecule of excess acid, it will compensate by placing an extra alkaline molecule in the blood. The blood will therefore become increasingly alkaline (did you know that?).

By being alkaline the blood will increase its uptake of oxygen, which sounds good, but we have the Bohr effect here in play, which means that rising blood alkalinity makes red blood cells saturate themselves with more oxygen. They won't let it go to the cells and they will get deficient of oxygen. Which is a cause for cancer as it thrives in an oxygen deficient environment.

In other words, when the tissue is acidic, we start to ROT.

So far so good with Youngs and your theory BUT ... as we are yin and yang creatures the opposite is also no good i.e. if the body gets alkaline (for that reason the title of this thread, by the way, is wrong).

If the tissues gets too alkaline the body will compensate by making the blood acidic. At this case, the Bohr effect will come into play at tissue level and oxygen uptake increases to the cells, which sounds good but it actually increasing the ageing of the body as oxygen is an oxidizer (agent of rust).

In other words, when the tissue is alkaline, we start to RUST.

So what do we do? Eat meat and green vegetable for a healthy balance! :D

No, you couldnt be more wrong, thats a total fairytale. This thread isnt about making the blood and tissues more alklaine - it as about assisting the body in the task of maintaining proper pH. What you need here is not a scientific mind, but just the ability to read and understand my article. blood pH is 7.365 and does not fluctuate - so eating alkaline foods wont cause blood pH to increase. It will however buffer acids so that acids do not threaten the delicate pH of the blood. Its practically impossible to become too alkline - the body is constantly producing acids. If the blood is over acidic it is the result of systemic acidosis and the body is overcompensating by dumping base minerals into the blood to buffer excess acids. Over alkalinity = systemic acidity.

Dr Young has been doing this for 20+ years and uses live/dry microscopy plus conventional blood tests (including blood pH and urine/saliva pH)
I have been eating 'alkalizing' (a term used for convenience - not to suggest we are trying to raise blood pH)foods and drinking an average of 5 litres of high pH (pH 10+) fluids per day for over 8 years now so i should be really out of balance by your logic.

The blood doesnt lie. If there is any pH imbalance it will be reflected in the blood. MAybe youll find this easier if i expalin in pictures:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165640

You only ever see good blood like that when someone is pH balanced.
I'd love to take a look at you yin/yang blood :rolleyes:

(nice try but you are clutching at straws here with this post :))
It is a total shill article and not even very creative or original - they have just reversed the alkaline theory and not bothered to even make it sound plausable. Anyway - by keeping alkaline you wont be storing molecules of acid.

[plam]

blood pH is 7.365 and does not fluctuate

The blood pH can fluctuate a little, and when it's below 7.3 is considered acidic. But the problem with too alkaline body is in the tissue not the blood. An alkaline system causes stagnation, congestion and diminished body functions.

It's a different matter that acidic system causes 5 times more damage. But the point to underline is that alkaline system is not good either. Balance is the key!

So far as I can see the dietary recommendations here include only alkalizing foods, why is that?

It is a total shill article and not even very creative or original

That's too evangelical, brother! :D

[lulushka8]

i'm not evangelical (as an example), i include the 30% (by volume) of acidic food like whole-wheat/spelt. it's not about being extreme, just ensuring that 70% of your diet is made up of vegetables and alkalising fats. if i tried to restrict myself too much i know it wouldn't last and things like bread & fruit might creep back in. i realise grains aren't ideal, but i'm vegan so it's easier for me, and is still allowed on the ph diet. no-ones getting evangelical unless on a cleanse as domathy pointed out. i know that i'd probably waste away if i didn't include the 30% acidic foods of grains & pulses. :)

[domathy]

The blood pH can fluctuate a little, and when it's below 7.3 is considered acidic. But the problem with too alkaline body is in the tissue not the blood. An alkaline system causes stagnation, congestion and diminished body functions.

It's a different matter that acidic system causes 5 times more damage. But the point to underline is that alkaline system is not good either. Balance is the key!

So how do you become too alklaine?? Your talking total nonsense.

So far as I can see the dietary recommendations here include only alkalizing foods, why is that?

Because the ideal diet is 80% high alklaine foods and 20% acid foods. Most people have spent their whole life on acid food and have drained their base reserves, damaged the small intestine and have a yeast overgroth in the body.
Going 100% alkaline and sugar free with make the blood environment not conducive for these pathogens and they leave. It takes 20 pts base to buffer 1 pt acid. The pH scale moves in increments of 10 - so a cup of coffee is 1000's x more acidic than the blood. Look, just read the article, the mechanics are explained there - i wont keep repeating myself.

That's too evangelical, brother! :D

No, just the truth.

[domathy]

i'm not evangelical (as an example), i include the 30% (by volume) of acidic food like whole-wheat/spelt. it's not about being extreme, just ensuring that 70% of your diet is made up of vegetables and alkalising fats. if i tried to restrict myself too much i know it wouldn't last and things like bread & fruit might creep back in. i realise grains aren't ideal, but i'm vegan so it's easier for me, and is still allowed on the ph diet. no-ones getting evangelical unless on a cleanse as domathy pointed out. i know that i'd probably waste away if i didn't include the 30% acidic foods of grains & pulses. :)

Exactly. Its embarrassing to see someone try to engage in serious debate when they havent even checked the facts. There are plenty of acid forming foods in this diet. For the long run 70/30 or 80/20 is ideal. But a period of eating100% alklaine greens and fats to heal tissues in the small intestine and eradicate yeast is sometimes required.

[domathy]

So far as I can see the dietary recommendations here include only alkalizing foods, why is that?



That's too evangelical, brother! :D


Look, you seem to be struggling, read the above post and then get this into your head (have you been drinking wine tonight btw as you seem to have a short memory :rolleyes:)

EVEN HEALTHY METABOLISM GENERATES ACID (did you get that this time? :))^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Even metabolising avocado and coconut oil will generate acid!!! (i'll add some exclamation marks in the hope it will catch your attention).
Just so happens that oils generate about half the acid as carbohydrate metabolism - but you will never get an acid deficieny :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[lulushka8]

you're stressing domathy out which is making him v acidic right now. :rolleyes:

[domathy]

you're stressing domathy out which is making him v acidic right now. :rolleyes:

Maybe thats the plan? Perhaps he is trying to save me from over alklainity!! Thankyou plam :)

[lulushka8]

nice plan plam.

[theramblingpoet]

Understand you I don't. Talk like yoda you do :)
Im half American btw :p



Genetics is a big factor. My gran just broke her back and fought off pnumonia at 94 - so Im all good too.
But sounds like you have depression if you cant stand the heat on earth :p
Anyway: (from the FAQ section)
Is there any evidence that people live longer on this diet?
“Its all very confusing, I know a guy who is in his 80's and he eats really unhealthy but he is healthy. He is also a heavy smoker”

Firstly, there are many people who do get sick and so for those who do develop a terminal disease, this diet has proved to be able to restore health.

But in general its difficult to answer the question of longevity for the average person as the ‘pH Miracle diet’ was only created in the past 20-30 years. But, there is much to suggest that this way of eating will extend life or at the very least will improve quality of life. I trained with Dr Young and the last time I checked, his bone density was still increasing well into his 50's and that's a pretty good sign this approach works as bone density normally peaks at age 30. This diet is adapted for the modern world and was created to meet the needs of people today. It takes into account the corruption of specific foods in modern food production and is designed to compensate for the acidic world we now live in. In the old days meat was not poisoned, dairy was raw and livestock Pasture fed, also for the old generation, genetics had not been damaged by antibiotics and atmospheric radiation so these oldies who smoke and drink tend to have very strong constitution. People born after WW2 were more likely to be formula fed and subjected to radiation, pesticides, vaccines, antibiotics etc – and are generally weaker. The only reason we are living longer is improved sanitation plus other factors. So, the pH balance helps to compensate for all the challenges we are up against.

To be honest I’m feeling great now and that’s what’s important to me. We all know someone who smokes etc and lives to an old age. But maybe we need to re evaluate our definition of health? Its one thing to survive, and not get cancer but it is quite another thing to thrive and be full of energy. I have lots of energy for physical activity, never ever get ill and haven’t had a doctor for over 8 years now.

Serious longevity (over 120 yrs) is not likely in this day and age (IMO) but this approach is the best way to stay on an even keel and upward trend.

I understand what this plateau of life is for and I can't wait to get to the next level my friend I'm healthy as an OX as they say.
And obviously your worst half is american because the English side loves humiliation and degredation tactics how animalistic of you to allow.
YODA was a very wise and powerful JEDI so while you are trying hard to put me down I feel you gave me a compliment HOW AMERICAN OF ME!
that's like telling a star trek nut they have the manners of a klingon I mean I'm beaming with pride!

[theramblingpoet]

I think your good looks have gone to your head,
I revoke your rights to claim american heritage being american isn't just the cornacopia of different bloodlines that create each individual,
it is a complete state of mind one that you haven't a clue about because the brittish snoot is so far in the air that is needs to be brought back down and tied to your azzhole.
You are a celebrity in your own mind more than you are to the people.
come down a few notches and whatever you do DO NOT EVER SAY YOU ARE HALF AMERICAN cuz you insult the american people with your retarded claims!

[domathy]

I understand what this plateau of life is for and I can't wait to get to the next level my friend I'm healthy as an OX as they say.
And obviously your worst half is american because the English side loves humiliation and degredation tactics how animalistic of you to allow.
YODA was a very wise and powerful JEDI so while you are trying hard to put me down I feel you gave me a compliment HOW AMERICAN OF ME!
that's like telling a star trek nut they have the manners of a klingon I mean I'm beaming with pride!

Ah c'mon I was only busting your balls :)
I know what you mean about longevity - im 30 already and am keen to progress to the next level :D But whilst im in physical form i want to feel good and enjoy healthy food. And im not half english btw.

Very powerful yoda was and wise he was also. But Jedi is also an analogy for the Djedi (the serpent priests of Egypt :eek:) - given that Lucas was an insider ;)

[domathy]

I think your good looks have gone to your head,
I revoke your rights to claim american heritage being american isn't just the cornacopia of different bloodlines that create each individual,
it is a complete state of mind one that you haven't a clue about because the brittish snoot is so far in the air that is needs to be brought back down and tied to your azzhole.
You are a celebrity in your own mind more than you are to the people.
come down a few notches and whatever you do DO NOT EVER SAY YOU ARE HALF AMERICAN cuz you insult the american people with your retarded claims!

pwned :(

This thread is beginning to feel like a bar room brawl :D

(thanks for saying im good looking though :cool:)

[domathy]

And if im so 'famous'....wheres all my bloody money :p

[lizzyking]

The blood pH can fluctuate a little, and when it's below 7.3 is considered acidic. But the problem with too alkaline body is in the tissue not the blood. An alkaline system causes stagnation, congestion and diminished body functions.

It's a different matter that acidic system causes 5 times more damage. But the point to underline is that alkaline system is not good either. Balance is the key!

So far as I can see the dietary recommendations here include only alkalizing foods, why is that?



That's too evangelical, brother! :D

Yup, balance it the key for a healthy person.

If in a health crisis, like battling cancer, striving to be off to the alkaline side seems like one of the tactics that will help beat the cancer (along with detoxing and bolstering immune system, etc), as apparently cancer thrives in an acidic environment.

[theramblingpoet]

And if im so 'famous'....wheres all my bloody money :p

OMG you really are adorable,
Not English huh? my respect level just went up!
Anyhoo well I am slightly passed 40 so I have got another 62 years or so to go if I don't die in a car wreck or plane crash.
Sorry you are makin' me feel bad for saying rude things now.
My blood is so chalked full of good stuff I am not really concerned about heart problems or cancer.
I have a oxygenation that I do daily I never even get the common cold I do also have recipes to cure AIDS for the average ninny who didn't know how to strap on a jimmy.

[domathy]

Yup, balance it the key for a healthy person.

If in a health crisis, like battling cancer, striving to be off to the alkaline side seems like one of the tactics that will help beat the cancer (along with detoxing and bolstering immune system, etc), as apparently cancer thrives in an acidic environment.

Same applies to diabetes, cholesterol, osteoporosis, chronic fatigue, yeast/pathogen overgrowth, kidney/liver diesease. Every single dis-ease is caused by over acidity. If you want do do better at sports and keep lactic acid low then more alkalinity is a good idea too.

[lizzyking]

Same applies to diabetes, cholesterol, osteoporosis, chronic fatigue, yeast/pathogen overgrowth, kidney/liver diesease. Every single dis-ease is caused by over acidity. If you want do do better at sports and keep lactic acid low then more alkalinity is a good idea too.

I'm not sure that every disease is caused be over acidity. It seems to provide a 'hospitable' environment for many diseases, such as many cancers. It could be that an acidic system might be one of many symptoms or indicators of a lifestyle that can lead and contribute to many diseases, so that might be the reason for such a conclusion (that it causes disease), but the conclusion doesn't seem quite right to me.

[lizzyking]

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned yet in this thread, but one of the easiest and most economical ways to keep tabs on one's PH balance is to get a bunch of test strips and use first urine in the morning. Saliva also works with the strips, but isn't as reliable.

[domathy]

OMG you really are adorable,
Not English huh? my respect level just went up!
Anyhoo well I am slightly passed 40 so I have got another 62 years or so to go if I don't die in a car wreck or plane crash.
Sorry you are makin' me feel bad for saying rude things now.
My blood is so chalked full of good stuff I am not really concerned about heart problems or cancer.
I have a oxygenation that I do daily I never even get the common cold I do also have recipes to cure AIDS for the average ninny who didn't know how to strap on a jimmy.

Ah good, im glad we're friends :)
I will pray for a car or plane crash for you if you want - but maybe just ride things out and see what happens :)

I'm not sure that every disease is caused be over acidity. It seems to provide a 'hospitable' environment for many diseases, such as many cancers. It could be that an acidic system might be one of many symptoms or indicators of a lifestyle that can lead and contribute to many diseases, so that might be the reason for such a conclusion (that it causes disease), but the conclusion doesn't seem quite right to me.

If you click the scribd link i explain the mechanics - acid really is the cause.

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned yet in this thread, but one of the easiest and most economical ways to keep tabs on one's PH balance is to get a bunch of test strips and use first urine in the morning. Saliva also works with the strips, but isn't as reliable.

pH testing is very good way to keep track.

[theramblingpoet]

I'm not sure that every disease is caused be over acidity. It seems to provide a 'hospitable' environment for many diseases, such as many cancers. It could be that an acidic system might be one of many symptoms or indicators of a lifestyle that can lead and contribute to many diseases, so that might be the reason for such a conclusion (that it causes disease), but the conclusion doesn't seem quite right to me.

diabetes comes from a fungus in the pancreas that turns the pancreas into a breeding ground for FUNGI and overtakes it to the point of shutting down the production of insulin after it has over created insulin for a great deal of time because fungus creates an over abundance of SUGAR,
The best way to get rid of the fungus is to first off do the parasite cleanse with a 50 day MMS plan however you can do it quicker than that if you want instructions for this I can PM you.
Then second phase would be to follow the liver cleanse when that is finished to you desired outcome start the H2O2 program for no more than 30 days by this time you should be so damned healthy because what H2O2 does is repair as well as oxygenate the cells not alowing for the fungus to live your blood if you donate will be bright red instead of the dark red most people have because of the level of oxygen,
OXYGEN not just PH is a major KEY to longevity and physical health lack of OXYGEN creates disease once disease is present it bombards your system and because of our slowed response time due to chemicals and such our own H2O2 production is delayed and then our systems get so overloaded by it we normally CANNOT RECOVER ON OUR OWN without a push from wholistic meds!

[domathy]

diabetes comes from a fungus in the pancreas that turns the pancreas into a breeding ground for FUNGI and overtakes it to the point of shutting down the production of insulin after it has over created insulin for a great deal of time because fungus creates an over abundance of SUGAR,
The best way to get rid of the fungus is to first off do the parasite cleanse with a 50 day MMS plan however you can do it quicker than that if you want instructions for this I can PM you.
Then second phase would be to follow the liver cleanse when that is finished to you desired outcome start the H2O2 program for no more than 30 days by this time you should be so damned healthy because what H2O2 does is repair as well as oxygenate the cells not alowing for the fungus to live your blood if you donate will be bright red instead of the dark red most people have because of the level of oxygen

Very true about the pancreas :)
Sounds like a good protocol too. MMS is great stuff :)

[lizzyking]

"Meat does not add any nutritional value to your body" - quoting Youngs.

So, domathy a man that makes such a ridiculous statement is your mentor, right?

Never mind that Inuit people eat mostly meat in their diet and recent finding suggest that - Inuit diet touted as health tonic (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=774f6379-ecd4-4c9a-8b2a-91a3a9ee31f0&k=66897)





The traditional Inuit diet is fats and proteins, no sugar at all.

Robert Young applies traditional tactics of someone who main aim is to sell. Scare the people and then suggest a miracle cure! Elementary!
And I don't want to sound rude, but your "doctor" does not look healthy on that video. Not much energy in that body. Or maybe just a bad hair day! :D


Young has gone to great lengths to make himself seem credible using deceptive means. I don't think one necessarily has to be credentialed to know what they are talking about, but using deceptive means to obtain a title such as "Doctor" to appear more authoritative, always makes me a little uncomfortable.

It was a correspondence school. I could start sending them money and correspond, to obtain such titles from any number of non-accredited correspondence schools, without leaving my home.



"Dr." Robert O. Young lacks legitimate credentials. A recent e-mail response to a query addressed to the Web address of Robert O. Young, co-author of The Ph Miracle, indicated that he does not have a graduate degree from a school accredited by a recognized accrediting agency. According to the sender, Young's credentials include: "M.S. Nutrition" (1993); "D.Sc. Science" (1995); "Ph.D., Nutrition" (1997); and "N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor" (1999). All were issued by the American Holistic College of Nutrition in Birmingham Alabama, which is a nonaccredited correspondence school.

Young claims that health depends primarily on proper balance between an alkaline and acid environment that can be optimized by eating certain foods. These claims are false. [Mirkin G. Acid/Alkaline Theory of Disease Is Nonsense (http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html). Quackwatch, Feb 6, 2003]

Young's Web site states that he "has been widely recognized as one of the top research scientists in the world," and his book states that he "has gained national recognition for his research into diabetes, cancer, leukemia, and AIDS." However, neither the e-mail message nor a Medline search for "Young RO" identifies any articles authored by him that were published in a recognized scientific journal.

http://www.ncahf.org/digest05/05-14.html

[theramblingpoet]

Young has gone to great lengths to make himself seem credible using deceptive means. I don't think one necessarily has to be credentialed to know what they are talking about, but using deceptive means to obtain a title such as "Doctor" to appear more authoritative, always makes me a little uncomfortable.

It was a correspondence school. I could start sending them money and correspond, to obtain such titles from any number of non-accredited correspondence schools, without living my home.



http://www.ncahf.org/digest05/05-14.html



.
Yeah fat great for the helping of the creation of cancer cells WOW!
Cancer loves Fat and sugar because it feeds the cells and helps create the hard outer coating which protects the cancer cell from being dissimilated.
Yeah I wouldn't trust most QOUTE UNQOUTE EDUCATED PROFESSIONAL DOCTORS they are in it to WIN it making millions from sickness #1 priority!

[akana]

Doctors licensed in the AMA don't know shit. All they do is prescribe meds. I've never gotten good advice from a AMA doctor. I dont' go to them anymore. Now I go to a licensed Alternative Medicine doctor, and get blood tests, but really I'm my own doctor.

LOL, I remember one time my gyno didn't understand why I don't want free birth control pills, or get a prescription of them. All I said is, 'they're not good for you', and he didn't get that.

Oh, and my mom, she has thyroid problems, and when she went to a AMA endocrinologist, all he said was: "yeah, keep taking your Synthroid (synthetic hormone), it's not doing you any harm" . (even tho its laced with aluminum, and god knows what else) LOL, when I heard that, I immediately suggested that she gets on at least a natural hormone, if not try to get off it, but go to an Alternative Medicine doctor anyway. Made an appointment for September.

[akana]

An interesting article on fats, vital info

Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill (http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/articles/2004471705/news)

[theramblingpoet]

Very true about the pancreas :)
Sounds like a good protocol too. MMS is great stuff :)

People do not understand we humans have parasites which hinder our natural abilitis to heal the elite purposely infect us with everything from bacteria to fungus to viruses and yes even parasites.
THEY LOVE THE CASH FLOW!
And if we die OH WELL one less animal in their otherwise perfect world.

[wildhorse]

bloody ell dom, just got my pink him salt today, put a teaspoon of salt in, let it dissolve, sipped it.....eurgh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! couldnt do it, so diluted it more, still couldnt

i now feel sick tbh, and never thought id say it, but i will be glad of the relief from a dose of aloe vera gel after that :p

gunna have another go tmoz, but in shot form...

[theramblingpoet]

bloody ell dom, just got my pink him salt today, put a teaspoon of salt in, let it dissolve, sipped it.....eurgh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! couldnt do it, so diluted it more, still couldnt

i now feel sick tbh, and never thought id say it, but i will be glad of the relief from a dose of aloe vera gel after that :p

gunna have another go tmoz, but in shot form...

Are you a woman with a fake 5 o clock shadow ?????? strange you have a feminine energy!

[wildhorse]

Doctors licensed in the AMA don't know shit. All they do is prescribe meds. I've never gotten good advice from a AMA doctor. I dont' go to them anymore. Now I go to a licensed Alternative Medicine doctor, and get blood tests, but really I'm my own doctor.

LOL, I remember one time my gyno didn't understand why I don't want free birth control pills, or get a prescription of them. All I said is, 'they're not good for you', and he didn't get that.

i had same shit with my gyno...even after saying i would not and could not tolerate hormones in BC, he still mentioned them being an option :rolleyes: same with smears, he wanted me to have tests because i havent had smear since 19, i told him i knew my body and was ok...but when fitting a non hormonal iud (copper yes not ideal but, better than an abortion later down the line imo), he had his wicked way and swabbed me....only to send me results that i was 'normal and healthy'

[lizzyking]

Promoters of these products claim that cancer cells cannot live in an alkaline environment and that is true, but neither can any of the other cells in your body.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html


And it also seems true that cancer THRIVES in an acidic environment.

The neutral value is 7 (water); so anything lower than 7 is acidic and a value higher than 7 indicates alkalinity. A pH level between 7.2 and 7.6 of our bodies would seem ideal insofar as denying cancer an acidic environment (acidosis) in which to thrive.

[wildhorse]

Are you a woman with a fake 5 o clock shadow ?????? strange you have a feminine energy!

are you a man with a pair o' tits?? :D;)

ok best edit...my fem side obviously coming back into play ...must rectify avatar soon then hehehe

[theramblingpoet]

are you a man with a pair o' tits?? :D;)

ok best edit...my fem side obviously coming back into play ...must rectify avatar soon then hehehe

Maybe you should ask my children!
last I heard men can't give birth the y can only donate sperm!
Anyway I sometimes look at others pics and can quick read them I don't try it just happens.
You show yourself a man and I saw the energy of a woman sue me!

[lizzyking]

One thing this alkaline diet critic has right on, that I have heard from other wholistic/alternative practioners, is this bit about protein.

When you take in more protein than your body needs, your body cannot store it, so the excess amino acids are converted to organic acids that would acidify your blood. But your blood never becomes acidic because as soon as the proteins are converted to organic acids, calcium leaves your bones to neutralize the acid and prevent any change in pH. Because of this, many scientists think that taking in too much protein may weaken bones to cause osteoporosis.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html


Protein is used by the meat industry to push their product, PROTEIN PROTEIN PROTEIN. Heh. One can get all the amino acids/proteins they need from eating a variety of live sprouts.

Calcium supplementation is bogus too tho, insofar as osteoporosis. People overdose on calcium thinking it will help, and the milk industry pushes the fallacy. A good diet is important, but exercise is best thing to prevent osteoporosis. Bones are actually toned and strengthed much like muscles, through use.

[theramblingpoet]

And it also seems true that cancer THRIVES in an acidic environment.

The neutral value is 7 (water); so anything lower than 7 is acidic and a value higher than 7 indicates alkalinity. A pH level between 7.2 and 7.6 of our bodies would seem ideal insofar as denying cancer an acidic environment (acidosis) in which to thrive.

You are supposed to keep your body at 7.0 you only bring it higher slightly to cure it of whatever ails you then bring it level to an exact 7.0.

[lizzyking]

You are supposed to keep your body at 7.0 you only bring it higher slightly to cure it of whatever ails you then bring it level to an exact 7.0.

I don't know if that is feasible without becoming an obsessive (EXACT 7). Our bodies are mostly water, but aren't completely water. I think always being in the low range of 7.x is great, and, if one is ill, being in upper 6.x range or lower seems to be giving cancer what it loves more so than many other healthy cells.

[wildhorse]

Maybe you should ask my children!
but i doubt i will bother
last I heard men can't give birth the y can only donate sperm!
no sperm, no mother earth momma show, all sperm are sacred *cue monty python* ;)
Anyway I sometimes look at others pics and can quick read them I don't try it just happens.
yeah, ditto...must be a girl thing...
You show yourself a man and I saw the energy of a woman
i show myself as i want, how i want, when i want, peeps kna me enough on here to just think 'oh its jus wildy doin her thing'
sue me...
oh thats jus so american...but no, i have no intention to, matter of personal responsibility i got gannin on

anyhoo....lets not digress from this thread, getting into meatsuits and avatars...:)

[theramblingpoet]

Again Cancer is created by a bacteria and when that bacteria starts to feed off the High fat high sugar diet it creates hard shells around the cells to protect it but it is the lack of oxygen which keeps it ideal cancer environment my friend.
If you and destroy the hard shell around the cells and then boost your OXYGEN SINGLETS levels which by the way is what your body creates to destroy foreign pathogens by attacking and bubbling around the pathogen and breaking it down and sterilizing it completely you are much better quicker than if you just stay on an alkaline diet!
Gods NUMBER OF PERFECTION 7.0 and the number of God is 777 which is the value of jehovah and jesus and the holy ghost.7.0

[wildhorse]

Protein is used by the meat industry to push their product, PROTEIN PROTEIN PROTEIN. Heh. One can get all the amino acids/proteins they need from eating a variety of live sprouts.

Calcium supplementation is bogus too tho, insofar as osteoporosis. People overdose on calcium thinking it will help, and the milk industry pushes the fallacy. A good diet is important, but exercise is best thing to prevent osteoporosis. Bones are actually toned and strengthed much like muscles, through use.

yeah its worrying how much such industries are pushed....water included....boils down to profits end of day

[lizzyking]

Again Cancer is created by a bacteria and when that bacteria starts to feed off the High fat high sugar diet it creates hard shells around the cells to protect it but it is the lack of oxygen which keeps it ideal cancer environment my friend.
If you and destroy the hard shell around the cells and then boost your OXYGEN SINGLETS levels which by the way is what your body creates to destroy foreign pathogens by attacking and bubbling around the pathogen and breaking it down and sterilizing it completely you are much better quicker than if you just stay on an alkaline diet!
Gods NUMBER OF PERFECTION 7.0 and the number of God is 777 which is the value of jehovah and jesus and the holy ghost.7.0


I'm not into numerology, but to each their own :)

I wouldn't mind putting a dollar token into a slot machine and getting three sevens tho ;)

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April Wine - Roller - YouTube
http://youtu.be/qzYQ6mGpiEo

[theramblingpoet]

Maybe you should ask my children!
but i doubt i will bother
last I heard men can't give birth the y can only donate sperm!
no sperm, no mother earth momma show, all sperm are sacred *cue monty python* ;)
Anyway I sometimes look at others pics and can quick read them I don't try it just happens.
yeah, ditto...must be a girl thing...
You show yourself a man and I saw the energy of a woman
i show myself as i want, how i want, when i want, peeps kna me enough on here to just think 'oh its jus wildy doin her thing'
sue me...
oh thats jus so american...but no, i have no intention to, matter of personal responsibility i got gannin on

anyhoo....lets not digress from this thread, getting into meatsuits and avatars...:)

Really? UNBELIEVABLE not hardly not all woman have it as shown by your comments.
I asked the question to gain confirmation that I recieved accurate information,
NOT TO START A PISSING MATCH I like to verify info coming in via ESP it helps me hone my gift for the real cases I sometimes get involved in the only one in a meat suit here is you!

[wildhorse]

[QUOTE=wildhorse;1060056282]

Really? UNBELIEVABLE not hardly not all woman have it as shown by your comments.
I asked the question to gain confirmation that I recieved accurate information,
NOT TO START A PISSING MATCH I like to verify info coming in via ESP it helps me hone my gift for the real cases I sometimes get involved in the only one in a meat suit here is you!

can give it but ya cannae take it :rolleyes: tsk

[theramblingpoet]

AIDS CAN BE CURED HERE IS THE RECIPE
5 cc 3% H2O2
500 cc 5% glucose and sterilized H2O
2 grams of magnesium chloride
and a small dose of Manganese in order to prevent sclerosis of the veins
you add this to a 90 minute drip for extremely strong strains of HIV you add the H202 to 10 parts colloidal silver the kind you can actually breathe in your lungs because it is already broken down more than the average oral solution,
and what this does is breaks down the colloidal silver to 400 parts more per million then you add this to the 90 minute drip this is to be done with the aid of a homeopathic physician and under complete supervision NOT TO BE DONE AT HOME.
depending on how bad your body is riddled by the disease again consult an expert advisor on your personal health but you should do this 3 times per week for several months.
This cure cancer after 2 months and most HIV after 4 months.
If you are using it for cancer take Vitalzym supplements as well because the supplements will break down the hard outershell of the protective coating around the cancer cells!
just to add a footnote using colloidal silver for any health problem is a very good Idea especially when you also use H2O2 to break it completely down as it covers way more area and takes care of much more of the pathogen load you are creating as far as HIV goes it will not allow for mutations of the disease at all,
so what you kill you destroy for good and it WILL NOT MUTATE and come back the H2O2 will not allow for the virus to latch onto your healthy cells in the first place so that your own system cannot be turned against itself!
here is the break down of H2O2 it is broken down first to H2O which is nothing more than water and creates 2 oxygen singlets per molecule
it has an instant fix first which is carried by one version of certain proteins in your blood directly to the bloodstream where it seeks and destroys pathogens by sending out oxygen singlets which break down the pathogen by creating a chemical reaction that appears exactly like hydrogen peroxide reactions when used in topical application.
The second half is placed into a secondary protein which does exactly what the first protein does it just holds onto it for an hour before it releases into the bloodstream and kills the second round of foreign pathogens.
Now to add to the effectiveness of all elements drink 2 to 4 ounces of chlorophyll per day 2 in the morning and 2 before 5 pm it will boost your oxygen and thereby give you natural energy so be sure to give yourself plenty of time to let the chlorophyll wear off and also very important DO NOT EAT ANY FATS OR DAIRY PRODUCTS WHAT SO EVER DURING THIS TIME that does mean animal fats as well!

[carlperkins]

This dairy business is interesting, the "dairy scam". I've just got back from seeing the new Harry Potter movie (I slept through most of it), and one thing that caught me was the dairy adverts before the film. Three seperate adverts, one each for cheese, milk and butter. Very curious, I've never really noticed that before, interesting advertising styles, friendly and funny etc. Are we being scammed?

[carlperkins]

Hi Domathy, I see your thread hear is growing rapidly! Just a couple of quick questions on your opinion please.

What is it about waking up from sleep in the morning that can result in a mucus sinus attack and sneezing fit? It seems to me that that is when it is at its worse.

I love fresh ginger in my cooking, (along with garlic, lemon grass and fresh chillies). I haven't seen ginger on alkaline food charts yet, do you have experience of it?

CP

[domathy]

Hi Domathy, I see your thread hear is growing rapidly! Just a couple of quick questions on your opinion please.

What is it about waking up from sleep in the morning that can result in a mucus sinus attack and sneezing fit? It seems to me that that is when it is at its worse.

I love fresh ginger in my cooking, (along with garlic, lemon grass and fresh chillies). I haven't seen ginger on alkaline food charts yet, do you have experience of it?

CP

Hi Carl,
Your body pH drops to its lowest point at 2am as the body is attempting to process acids from the day before. Mucus is a vehicle used by the body to eliminate acids and the fact you are having the sinus attacks says there is too much acid for the body to cope with. It sounds like a pain, but set an alarm and drink a glass of bicarb water in the night at 1 or 2 am. You will sleep much more deeply too once you go back to sleep. Processing excess acids affects sleep so reduces quality of sleep - by drinking the bicarb youll take a big burden off the body right when it needs it.

Ginger, garlic and chillies are fine to use - but they can also be a bit over stimulating and potentially mucus forming so maybe use a bit more sparingly.

If the thread is looking a bit chaoitic and congested, stick with it and will maybe get it back on track :)

[domathy]

Young has gone to great lengths to make himself seem credible using deceptive means. I don't think one necessarily has to be credentialed to know what they are talking about, but using deceptive means to obtain a title such as "Doctor" to appear more authoritative, always makes me a little uncomfortable.It was a correspondence school. I could start sending them money and correspond, to obtain such titles from any number of non-accredited correspondence schools, without leaving my home.

http://www.ncahf.org/digest05/05-14.html

I'd do the same if the ADA spat in my face when i tried to share research on how to cure cancer, diabetes etc.
Theyre not interested - so he decided to go it alone and call himself a doctor so the brainwashed sheeple dont immediatley dismiss him.

Chris Rock - Doctors & Drugs - YouTube

[domathy]

This dairy business is interesting, the "dairy scam". I've just got back from seeing the new Harry Potter movie (I slept through most of it), and one thing that caught me was the dairy adverts before the film. Three seperate adverts, one each for cheese, milk and butter. Very curious, I've never really noticed that before, interesting advertising styles, friendly and funny etc. Are we being scammed?

Yes, they are really pushing dairy atm - using celebs etc to make it more appealing.

[domathy]

okay, so until recently this thread has been about discussing the practical aspects of how to eliminate excess acids from the body.
We have been sharing recepies and discussing the pros and cons of various foods and trying to help people tailor this way of eating to their particular needs.

So, in an attempt to restore the previous tone of the thread - i will ask that any who wishes to contribute here, please read the article which afterall is the topic of the thread and also the FAQ section.

If after reding these documents you still have questions or objections then feel free to ask - but im bored of going round in circles discussing fundamentals which have all been explained in these documents and many times in previous posts. Im happy to debate but this can only be done objectivley if youve read the articles.

[domathy]

I have condensed some of the most relevant bits from this thread to save people having to sift through all the pages:

Alkalizing article:
http://www.scribd.com/full/52580467?...8bozoabwfqcoaa

pH chart:
http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_...ood_chart.html

Blood analysis:
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/52947976?access_key=key-6rv7vvpg5u7pw2im2ak



Alkalizing videos:
Alkalizing part 1 - YouTube

Alkalizing part 2 - YouTube

Alkalizing part 3 - YouTube

Alkalizing part 4 Clay - YouTube

Alkalizing part 5 Almonds - YouTube

[domathy]

Here is a list of the main acid forming factors with details of why they should be reduced in your diet. You will notice that the reason to avoid many foods is not because they are naturally bad, but rather because of the way the foods are produced, stored or processed in today’s modern world. (These foods should ideally be eliminated if you have a health challenge that you want to get rid of quickly)

Food combining:
Eating foods in the wrong combination will create extra acid, gas and bloating. For example fruit normally digests in about 30 minutes, but if the stomach is full of heavy food, then the fruit is forced to sit on top as it can’t get past to be absorbed. So it begins fermenting and this causes lots of acidity. Eating carbohydrates and meat at the same meal will cause a similar effect. Protein digestion requires an acid medium in the stomach and carbohydrate digestion requires an alkaline medium. When you eat meat and carbs together, the body releases both acid and alkaline digestive juices at the same time and these actually neutralize each other and neither the meat nor carbohydrates get properly digested, causing acid and stagnation. So eat fruit on an empty stomach. If you want to eat meat then it is best to eat with just vegetables and not with bread pasta or rice. Eat dairy alone and on an empty stomach.

Cooked food:
Ideally you should include some raw vegetables in your diet even if its only salad and avocado. Vegetables are alkaline and electron rich, but become more acidic and more proton saturated when you over cook it. Steamed or lightly cooked vegetables are very good, but just avoid really cooking it to death.

Cooked oils:
Try to avoid cooking with oils due to the fact that heat oxidizes the oil. Try using extra virgin coconut oil for cooking as it is much more stable and tolerates cooking temperatures without oxidizing. Steam fry your food and then add oil right at the end.

Sugar:
Sugar is like rocket fuel for yeast and is very acidic. However it is better to use sugar than to use artificial sweeteners. Aspartame for example is produced by feeding toxic materials to e-coli bacteria – the white powder produced by the bacteria is used to sweeten your coffee. The company that makes aspartame is the same company behind DDT and Agent Orange.
Sweet fruit has a lot of sugar (mangos, bananas, pineapples, grapes, oranges, apples, papaya, ) Most fruit is also genetically hybridised to make it sweeter. Also most fruit is picked before it is ripe (for transportation) which means it is more acidic. Fruit may have an alkaline pH, but the sugar content means it acidifies the body. Also avoid corn syrup, molasses and maple syrup.


Stored Grains, nuts and potatoes:
The problem with corn and many grains is the way in which they are stored. They are stored for so long and in such a way that they begin to ferment and turn fungal. The fungus is not destroyed by cooking temperatures and has been associated with many chronic diseases including cancer. Modern crops are also weaker due to human tampering which makes crops even more susceptible to fungus overgrowth. Fungal grains are more acid forming and the fungus contributes to a yeast overgrowth. Wheat, oats, barley, rye and corn tend to be the most fungal. These are also naturally the most acid forming grains anyway and so they should be replaced with grains detailed in Section 2. Many oils such as corn oil and other vegetable oils are very contaminated.

The same applies to peanuts and cashews. These should really be avoided because, due to modern farming and storage methods, they are very contaminated with fungus. (Practically ALL corn, peanuts and cashews are now contaminated) This is also because the surface of these foods is soft and fungus easily gets a foothold.

Potatoes are often contaminated with fungus. Sweet potatoes are great though.

Meat:
Meat is naturally acid forming and also livestock are mostly fed on stored grains (even organic livestock). The byproducts of the fermented grains accumulate in the fatty tissue of the livestock and these mycotoxins are not destroyed by cooking. Also, over 50% of the protein is denatured/destroyed by cooking. Humans are unable to fully digest meat. If eating meat, try to buy organic (no hormone or antibiotic injections) and eat with plenty of vegetables as the fiber will help sweep that acidity away and reduce fermentation. Pork is the most acid forming. Chicken, despite the healthy image, is also acid forming. Chickens do not have a separate urinary tract so much uric acid is re absorbed into the tissues – hence ‘juicy’ chicken.

Less Dairy:
Pasteurization removes any potential goodness in the milk by destroying enzymes and changing the molecular structure. Dairy is highly mucus forming and also the calcium is not compatible with the human body (hence why many doctors now say it does nothing to prevent osteoporosis). Dairy products should be avoided because of their lactose (milk sugar) content as well as the presence of yeast and fungus, molds, and their by-products. Also, due to the high sugar and fat content of dairy products, the fact that dairy cows are fed stored grains and fungal-based antibiotics, and the fermentation process of cheese and yogurt, all dairy products should ideally be eventually eliminated from the diet. Calcium can be obtained from green leafy vegetables, green drinks, collards, broccoli, okra, salmon, etc. Avoid milk, cheese, butter, yogurt, ice cream.

Eggs:
Due to chickens being fed fungal corn, most eggs have a high load of pathogenic microorganisms

Cut out the yeast:
Baked goods such as yeast breads, cakes and pastries should be avoided. According to the American Cancer Society, one out of nine American women will develop breast cancer by age 80. Research links it with the ingestion of baked goods and bakers or brewers yeast. Research also correlates diets containing yeast or fermented breads to gall stones, kidney stones and arthritis. Also avoid marmite and ‘nutritional’ yeast.

Tea, coffee, chocolate:
Tea, coffee and chocolate are all acid forming and contain caffeine. Decaf tea/coffee is not any better because they use formaldehyde to flush out the caffeine. Coffee and chocolate are also fermented. Also chocolate contains Theobromine which is a strong acid.

Alcohol:
Wine, beer, whiskey, brandy, gin, rum and vodka are purely mycotoxic. Alcohol is a fungus-produced mycotoxin made by yeast that causes direct injury to human health. If you want to drink alcohol then compensate with water and clay.

Mushrooms:
Mushrooms, algae, and truffles are all acid-forming foods. They contain mycotoxins which poison cells. Mushrooms in all forms are poisonous whether eaten whole or in teas. The mushroom is not a vegetable, but rather the fruiting body of a yeast or fungus. Also, note that corn and peanut, products have a high fungal content and should be avoided as well.

Condiments:
Soy sauce, mayonnaise, vinegar, ketchup. Avoid anything which is fermented or contains sugar, vinegar etc.


Avoid tobacco:
Tobacco leaves are coated with yeast, fungus, and mycotoxins, which poison the cells and tissues of the body. Research clearly reveals the pathway to cancer is the fermentation of the tobacco with yeast and sugar. When using tobacco, you are directly introducing dried fungus and wastes into your body. Also to prevent tobacco going moldy, manufactures introduce chemicals like formaldehyde and benzene as a preservative. Raw tobacco is not so bad.


Processed food
Try to avoid all processed food.



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Alkaline foods and other factors:

Stay Relaxed:
Emotional stress produces hydrochloric acid which is 3 x stronger than any dietary acids. So attitude is very important.
But also, when you start to eat more alkaline foods, your capacity to deal with emotional stress will improve. When you do get stressed, the acid and adrenaline created will be eliminated faster as your so your body recovers more quickly. But if the body and elimination organs are choked with acids from bad diet then acid and adrenaline from stress will hang around much longer and agitate the person even further. So a good diet helps people to keep a cool head and recover from stress much more quickly.


Food combining: Eat fruit alone, on an empty stomach and one variety at a time i.e. one banana or one portion of grapes. You can eat avocado with anything though. Try adding avocado to fruit to slow the release of sugar and reduce acid. Don’t eat meat with carbohydrates. Don’t eat dairy with carbohydrates or protein.

Hydrate: The easiest way to get rid of acid is to pee. You need to drink water to flush acids out. Aim to pee at least 12 times per day. Drink one gallon (4 liters) or more of a good quality water each day. This may sound like a lot if you are not used to drinking water but start small and then build up over time. Start with 1 liter per day then build up over weeks and months. You get used to drinking and the feeling associated with being well hydrated. Before you know it, drinking non acidic fluids will become habit. Purified/energized water is best as it is easier to drink than tap water which can taste and feel unpleasant. Tap water, due to its poor structure, just sits in your belly and doesn’t get absorbed properly so it makes you need to pee right away. If you are drinking good water you will not need to pee so urgently and as you get used to hydrating will be able to comfortably hold more water in your bladder for longer.

Salt. real, unrefined, unprocessed salt is actually essential for good health! Redmond Real Salt and Himalayan Salt are two very good brands of salt to use and you should add it liberally to food. It is very alkalizing and healthful. It is a pink colour and looks and tastes totally different to table salt. Table salt (the white stuff you see in salt shakers) is an industrial chemical because it is produced mostly for industrial purposes. The 10% not used in industry ends up in people’s food. Table salt has been bleached, cooked at over 1200 degrees, had anti-caking ingredients added and it is stripped of all other minerals. The white table salt you find in supermarkets is best avoided. Try to get unprocessed salt from ancient deposits which have been naturally protected from modern pollution. It is best to use salt that is extracted from underground deposits or from the Himalayan or other mountain ranges. Open mines or salt taken from modern oceans is likely to be more polluted. Also, even if a product is labeled ‘sea salt’ it may only contain 1% sea salt as labeling laws are very relaxed
low sugar fruit: LOW sugar fruits have all the benefits of high sugar fruit (mango, etc.) but without the fungus stimulating properties of fructose. Tomatoes (which are alkaline when raw), cucumber (very alkaline/electron saturated) avocados, (very alkalizing and a great source of energy, antioxidants, potassium, good fats, etc and are very easy to digest, eat several per day) Grapefruit, lemons and limes are all very alkalizing (the acids in citrus are volatile and evaporate off very quickly so citrus is alkaline and with 1/3 available oxygen). Small berries such as blueberries, blackberries, raspberries and strawberries are good.

Vegetables: Good, low carbohydrate vegetables include asparagus, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, green beans, peppers, spinach, kale, lettuce, onions, garlic, parsley, and squash. About 80% of all meals should be fresh, raw (or lightly cooked, alkalizing vegetables.

Good fats: Avocado, olive oil, coconut oil and other cold pressed oils are great. Raw plant fats are excellent for your health.

Good grains. The following grains are less prone to fermentation; spelt, millet quinoa, amaranth and buckwheat. These grains fall into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods. Complex carbohydrates are acid-forming in the body and should not exceed 20% of the diet, so eat them in moderation. . Try not to store grains in areas of the kitchen which are exposed to steam and heat from cooking as this will cause the grains to go moldy. You can still eat bread but make sure you choose sourdough (yeast free) spelt bread. Paul’s spelt bread is very good (www.soyfoods.co.uk) if you live in the UK.

Soaked nuts: It is important to soak nuts and seeds in water overnight to make them edible. Hemp, flax, sesame and almonds are good. Discard any broken or chipped nuts from the bag. The skin/hull is designed to protect the nut/seed from oxygen, so when the skin is chipped away the nut is exposed and the oil inside will oxidize. Look at a bag of shelled brazil nuts in any health store – most of them are missing their protective brown skin and large areas of the nut are exposed to the air. The nut has gone a yellow colour which indicates that the oil has turned rancid. The same applies with pine and macadamia nuts as, because they don’t have a skin, they oxidize as soon as the shell is removed.
Good fresh fish. Organic fresh oily fish can be beneficial. (Fish falls into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods) Try to avoid tuna as it contains a lot of mercury.

Dairy: Unpasteurized dairy is okay provided the livestock are grass fed only. Also goat’s cheese is okay in moderation.

Daily rhythms: When you eat breakfast, lunch and dinner at roughly the same time each day the body becomes conditioned and is ready for the task of digestion – in other words it has time to prepare and knows what to expect. Try to eat and sleep at regular times.


Attitude: Do not focus all your attention on making your diet perfect. All that happens is you become a bit odd and obsessed with food (I’m taking from experience) Make small changes based on your new understandings. Transition slowly unless you have a really chronic health challenge. Also do not let yourself believe that all this is too much, or too extreme or overwhelming. Just make small steps each day – small steps really do add up. Even if all you take from this is drinking more water then this is still a very positive thing and will benefit you greatly in the long run. Find your own approach and try not to label things as ‘good’ or ‘bad’. The body is resilient and can survive on most diets – this is about empowering yourself and learning how to support your body, whilst living in the real world, not trying to be perfect. It is recommended that you approach any dietary/lifestyle changes in the spirit of ‘choosing better health’ as opposed to ‘fear of illness.’ Just do what feels right and find your own way with things, as you become more alkaline you will be more in tune with what your body wants and your tastes will change accordingly – so don’t force things too much. Also remember, this is not some cultish thing. Find what works for you.
If you fall off the wagon, just get back on. Its not a step back, just a smaller step forward than the day before. And sometimes you do actually need to go backwards to go forwards – don’t expect to be able to conquer all your habits in one go.

[domathy]

Thanks to Lulushka, Leon11 and especially Akana for the following links:

Recepie book: http://www.energiseforlife.com/alkal...recipe-book-jw

Meal examples: http://www.energiseforlife.com/wordp...aline-recipes/

How to make green juice using blender: Juicing green juice with average blender & paint strainer - YouTube

How to test pH: Dr Robert Young on How to Test Your Body Ph Levels #455 - YouTube

Food combining and pH charts: http://acidalkalinediet.com/foodcombiningchart.pdf

http://acidalkalinediet.com/listofalkalinefoods.pdf


Fats that heal: Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill

[domathy]

Is fat good or bad?
Fat is only bad if it is either cooked or if it is from fungal contaminated grains/seeds (the body will build fat cells to store the toxins in cooked or rancid oils – but it is not the fat which causes weight gain). Raw plant fats will never make you fat or make you sick, in fact a deficiency in fats can make you fat and sick. Fats are very unfairly demonized. The body needs EFA’s or essential fatty acids (omega 3&6 oils) to build healthy cells (the cell membrane of a blood cell is made of omega 3 & 6). They are essential (as their name suggests) because the body cannot manufacture them. These oils are present in nuts, seeds and oily fish and are required for virtually every function in the body. Most people are very deficient in EFA’s due to poor diet and also the fact that cooking will destroy/denature these oils. Topping up your oil levels will make a drastic difference to your health and how you feel.

I recommend using an oil supplement as even a healthy diet will not provide nearly enough to compensate for years of deficiency (and contrary to what you are told, eating oily fish is not sufficient and cooking will denature the oils too) but unfortunately it is VERY difficult to buy good quality oil. Once oil is pressed from a seed, it is no longer protected by the hull and will react with oxygen. If there is any heat, air or light in the manufacturing process and it will go rancid/oxidize. The equipment required to press oil without oxidization is very expensive so most people do it the ‘cheap and cheerful’ way then label it 'cold pressed' (the laws are very relaxed on labeling – and they can call anything ‘cold pressed’ if they wish). Shockingly most oil is rancid before it even hits the shop floor and has a bitter, rancid taste. Try and find ‘Udo's oil’ or ‘Barleans oil’ – these are both great brands as are manufactured properly. They also contain a blend of seed oils to provide the correct ratio of omega 3&6 (same ratio required for blood production). I have tested all the most common brands and the oil is rancid. I’ve even tested 'fresh' hemp seed oil that was just hours old and again the oil was oxidized, which is such a shame as hemp naturally contains the perfect ratio of omega 3&6.

Storage is very important too. I normally buy Udo's oil from my local health store as they keep the oil in the freezer and so freshness is guaranteed. It is a small shop with low turnover so it is good that they freeze the oil. At very least the shop must store the oil in the fridge and not at room temperature when it is kept in their store room.
Do some research - find a shop/online supplier who is sympathetic to what I just wrote as it is worth the research. You need oil, and if you find a good source it will make a massive difference to your health. It probably the most important issue regarding health. Ask your local health store to keep some in the freezer for you as its good to transport it home frozen if possible. Otherwise just keep it cool (in a cool bag maybe, or wrap it in something) and put it in fridge as quick as poss. Store it in fridge, don’t leave the lid off bottle too long, and don’t expose to light (heat, air, and light will cause this amazing oil to oxidize and go off). If you are going away for a while you can freeze the bottle and thaw on your return. You can freeze/thaw the oil as many times as you want. If using Udo's oil on food, just wait for the food to cool down a bit first otherwise heat will cause the oil to begin oxidizing. You can use it in fresh dressings or take straight off the spoon.


More about fats:
So, you need fats for building blood (omega 3&6 from flax, borage, hemp, fish etc), but you can also get energy from specific other fats (coconut, avocado, olive oil etc). Fats are a very excellent source of calories, and in theory we don’t even need carbohydrates as the body can convert fat into blood sugar for energy.
Most energy production generates acidic byproducts. Cars produce carbon dioxide (an acidic gas) when they burn petrol and, in a similar way, we produce metabolic acids while burning calories (more or less acid according to the fuel we choose). Fats in their raw plant form are a much cleaner fuel than carbohydrates; they burn slowly and do not generate nearly so much acid. By comparison carbohydrates are a dirtier fuel and produce more acids which put stress on the body. Getting energy from sugar/carbohydrates will create an acidic, low oxygen environment and will agitate your nervous system. Sugar metabolism gobbles up oxygen like petrol on a bonfire. Whereas fats create a stable, alkaline and oxygenated environment which makes you feel calm and focused – leaving lots of oxygen for your brain and muscles to work properly. Lactic acid is created when your cells burn sugar without enough oxygen being present. Lactic acid is very poisonous. It’s best to exercise slowly and to use fat for fuel- with focus on stamina. Explosive, adrenaline/sugar based exercise will quickly burn up all the oxygen and then lactic acid is formed. The ‘no pain, no gain’ mantra is wrong. Muscle can be built without pain as long as you have healthy red blood cells to build new muscle with. Slow burn is a great book, written by Stu Mittelman. He runs very long distances using fats for fuel and focusing on pH balance. The body can only store a small amount of sugar, (hence why runners load up on carbs and then still need sugar gels etc when running) but the body can store lots of energy in the form of fat – this is how primitive man covered lots of ground – using stored up fat. Flow Jo, the famous exercise guru diet of a heart attack at a young age. She was a champion of the USDA food pyramid with emphasis on eating carbs for fuel. Using carbs for fuel will create lactic acid which weakens the heart and other muscles, in the long run.
Fats are essential to keeping blood sugar levels nice and stable. Getting energy from fat allows the pancreas to ‘rest’ and to heal, whereas sugar metabolism taxes the pancreas as it is forced to constantly produce insulin. Fats provide a slow release of energy/blood sugar which prevents the fungi stimulating blood sugar spikes associated with carbohydrates. The problem is that most of us have conditioned our body to burn carbs for fuel (probably because it is such a lazy way to get energy). Its will take a while to condition and train the body to burn fats effectively. Exercise is required to raise metabolism every day (even brisk walking once or twice a day) otherwise the fats you eat won’t be burned properly. Also, the 'little and often' approach is important. If you start downing fats and oils you will stall your digestion and feel sluggish. If you've ever made a small bonfire then dumped loads of wood on it, you will see how the flames go out as it chokes the flames. It is the same in the body, you need to stoke the fire gently (ie build metabolism) and, as your body burns fats better, you can keep adding more fat to your diet. Also it requires a mental shift as carbs give you a rush, and fats give you nothing exciting at first. But, as metabolism shifts you start to feel you are getting really good consistent energy from fat.
Fats are also very alkalizing and are used by the body to buffer acids. The name ‘essential fatty acids’ is misleading because they are alkaline forming and the body uses fat to buffer and neutralize acids and make them safe.
Avocados and coconut oil (an excellent and healthy saturated fat) are a great source of energy, they are high in calories but are easy to digest and do not produce as much acid when being metabolized. Eat several avocados per day if you can. Its best not to cook with olive oil ideally use extra virgin coconut oil as it tolerates high temperatures without oxidizing. But use olive oil until you get hold of some good coconut oil. Steam fry the veg first and then add oil towards the end.

The media says organic food is no more nutritious?
Much press saying organic is no more nutritious. This is a total diversion as the reason why organic is best is nothing to do with nutrient content but instead is about avoiding pesticides.

Am I right in thinking that dietary choices should also be aligned to your blood group?
The ‘blood-type diet’ refers to the idea that all human life started in Africa then, as food supplies were running low we spread out across the world. As we migrated we had to eat different food according to what was available in different regions and our bodies became hardwired to be compatible with specific foods. For instance O-types (the original hunters of Africa) should eat meat but avoid grains (as O-types were into hunting and never cultivated grains), whereas people in Asia are suited to lots of grains (they pioneered grain farming) but not dairy. If you eat the wrong foods, according to this theory, then it causes an allergic reaction and the blood turns more clumpy. In theory its an interesting concept and there may be some element of truth in the concept but in practice it doesn’t work. For instance, I’m O-type and am supposed to eat meat and avoid avocados; I eat loads of avo's and no meat in my diet at all and am very fit and healthy. One thing that does ring true is to avoid grains as my body doesn’t thrive on most grains. The author, Peter D'amo says avocados will make type-O blood clumpy, but i test my own blood using a microscope and never have clumpy blood from avocados. Stu Mittelman the well known marathon runner was using the O-type approach when running from east to west coast of USA, he started burning out so adopted the greens and avo's approach - he was tested by doctors and was healthier at the end of the race than he was at the beginning and also was the only person to finish the race. He talks about blood type in his book 'slow burn'.


Is there any evidence that people live longer on this diet?
“Its all very confusing, I know a guy who is in his 80's and he eats really unhealthy but he is healthy. He is also a heavy smoker”

Firstly, there are many people who do get sick and so for those who do develop a terminal disease, this diet has proved to be able to restore health.

But in general its difficult to answer the question of longevity for the average person as the ‘pH Miracle diet’ was only created in the past 20-30 years. But, there is much to suggest that this way of eating will extend life or at the very least will improve quality of life. I trained with Dr Young and the last time I checked, his bone density was still increasing well into his 50's and that's a pretty good sign this approach works as bone density normally peaks at age 30. This diet is adapted for the modern world and was created to meet the needs of people today. It takes into account the corruption of specific foods in modern food production and is designed to compensate for the acidic world we now live in. In the old days meat was not poisoned, dairy was raw and livestock Pasture fed, also for the old generation, genetics had not been damaged by antibiotics and atmospheric radiation so these oldies who smoke and drink tend to have very strong constitution. People born after WW2 were more likely to be formula fed and subjected to radiation, pesticides, vaccines, antibiotics etc – and are generally weaker. The only reason we are living longer is improved sanitation plus other factors. So, the pH balance helps to compensate for all the challenges we are up against.

To be honest I’m feeling great now and that’s what’s important to me. We all know someone who smokes etc and lives to an old age. But maybe we need to re evaluate our definition of health? Its one thing to survive, and not get cancer but it is quite another thing to thrive and be full of energy. I have lots of energy for physical activity, never ever get ill and haven’t had a doctor for over 8 years now.

Serious longevity (over 120 yrs) is not likely in this day and age (IMO) but this approach is the best way to stay on an even keel and upward trend.


Is it possible to be too alkaline?
“Surely you want to get your body neutral not too acidic or alkaline?”

Yes, the blood is almost neutral (pH 7.365) – but the biochemistry is such that it is very easy to become too acidic. People assume you need to eat 50/50 for balance, but the pH scale moves in increments of 10, so a cup of coffee is 1000 x more acidic than blood. Plus it takes 20 parts alkalinity to buffer one part acid in the body. Our diet should really be 80-90% high alkaline forming foods and 10-20% mild acid foods. Most people eat 90% high acid food and don't drink enough water to flush out acids.
It is practically impossible to become too alkaline (when the blood pH is too alkaline it is because the body is dumping alkaline minerals into the blood to compensate, but reflects systemic acidity). Even if you were eating only alkaline forming foods, the body is constantly producing acids as a waste product of healthy metabolism.

Urine/saliva pH testing is a good method of monitoring body pH.


Do animals need alkalinity?

I have heard of animals being extremely healthy on vegetarian diet, but they need lots and lots of good fats. Dr Young who compiled all this alkaline information, works with pets as well as humans, and creates special diets for lions, panthers etc. In the wild, when killing prey, these animals eat the intestines first as the intestines are full of alklaine grasses which they require for alkalinity. Celebrities keep these animals domestically and they often get sick due to acidity, so Dr Young feeds them greens to reverse cancer, diabetes etc in these animals. So it is good to feed your pet at least some broccoli and green vegetables.
Carnivores have a shorter intestine and higher acid levels designed for eating meat and processing it quickly (before it rots, as it does in the long meandering human intestinal tract) - but animals can also eat vegetables too.

pH testing says fruit and cider vinegar are alkaline?
The traditional method of testing pH is flawed. They take the food and incinerate it and then test the ‘for mineral content. Fruit may be high in alkaline minerals as revealed by the ash method, but it is also, very high in sugar. Sugar acidifies the body, not least because it is like rocket fuel for yeast/candidia. But, with the ash method, all the sugar is burned and so this not taken into account.


Lemons:
Lemons have an acidic pH, but the acids are very volatile and as soon as you eat/drink the acids vanish as they are metabolised and you are left with lots of available oxygen (1/3 available oxygen) and also alkalizing minerals.


What ratio of food?
The general rule of thumb is to eat lots of fresh whole food. It is generally advisable to change one thing at a time; however, if you have a significant health challenge, or if you feel you want to boost your energy levels quickly, it may be wise to go 100% alkaline for a few weeks or longer – that is, to eliminate all acidic foods and even temporarily eliminate the healthy grains/sugars and starchy vegetables which can still add fuel to an existing yeast infestation. Once balance has been restored, Dr Young’s recommendation is to aim for the 80/20 ratio – that is 80% high alkaline food and 20% mildly acid forming food. In the early stages of the process there may be some initial detox symptoms, but this should be viewed as a positive thing, as they usually pass quickly. The more you move the toxins the better you will feel. All avenues for eliminating acids need to be utilized, and this is achieved by improved hydration and digestion to move acids out via the bowels – pee lots. Sweating is another important component, as this allows acids to exit via the skin which is the largest elimination organ.




Do we need supplements?
Nutritional supplements will help compensate for any possible dietary shortfalls. The world may be full of immune suppressing ‘toxins’ and ‘poisons’ but nutritional supplements can give extra protection against these threats and assist your body in eliminating and neutralizing harmful pollutants. Specific nutrients have shown to be highly effective against everything from heavy metals to yeast and their waste products (mycotoxins). Supplementing on a daily basis can top up your defences and provide constant protection from dietary, environmental and emotional stresses.

Bear in mind that even the best food these days is not great. Due to intensive farming methods, most topsoil is dead and it is not possible to get all the minerals you need from food alone. Pollution and stress depletes the body of nutrients too. I swear by supplements - though i would say at least 95% of what is on the market is total JUNK. The only supplements I really take are food based and I really get lots of benefit from using them - especially for exercise. Wheatgrass is the only vegetable which can absorb every single mineral and trace mineral from the soil I have been using wheatgrass grown in fantastic soil for over 8 years, almost every single day, tons of the stuff and you can feel it working.

A healthy diet alone may be fine for maintaining health - but for many people a healthy diet is not enough for restoring health if they have accumulated year’s worth of deficiencies. If someone has been on drugs and junk food for 20 yrs (like i was) then supplements can be very helpful.



How much protein ?
The truth is that when you have a good body pH and a healthy small intestine you will only need a relatively small amount of protein per day. About 90% of blood cells are recycled in a healthy alkaline environment and so your protein requirement will actually be very low. But, most people are more acidic and nutrients get spent instead of recycled, so you need to make sure you have enough protein in your diet. Meat does have a high protein content but its not very bio-available. Also the cooking process reduces the usable protein of anything by at least 50%. You need protein from a variety of source; lentils, beans, nuts, seeds, fish and also leafy greens. Wheatgrass contains 4 x more protein that meat. Also, if you crave protein then you need to address your omega 3&6 levels as lack of good fats will trigger protein cravings.





Why do I need to soak Nuts?
Both nuts and seeds contain chemicals which are designed to keep them in a dormant state until the rainy season. Eating raw nuts and seeds really stresses digestion as your body tries to digest something un digestible and has to get past the chemicals. Soaking them in water tricks the nut into thinking it is planted in soil and that the rainy season has arrived so they release all their chemicals. So soak almonds in fridge, throw away soak water - as that’s where these chemicals/substances are released and top up with fresh water if you want to store some almonds in fridge ie if you don’t eat them all. Soak water is good for houseplants btw. 1 part almonds to 3 parts water when soaking.. Almond skins are a bit poisonous hence peeling. Its better in the long run to soak whenever poss

Which nuts and seeds are good to eat?
The main problem here is extraction process and storage methods. In the UK I tend to avoid sunflower and pumpkin seeds and hazel, brazil, macadamia and pine nuts. Pumpkin and sunflower seeds look a bit bad to my eye. Hazel and brazil nuts often are missing big patches of their protective brown skin and have oxidized/turned rancid (the oil in nuts and seeds are vulnerable to oxidization from heat, air and light). As macadamia and pine nuts are shelled they become totally exposed to the air and are fully oxidized (they should be white but have a distinct yellow tinge instead). Avoid all peanuts and cashews as they are fully contaminated with very poisonous aspergillus fungus. Walnuts and pecans are okay I guess (even though they are halved so part of the inner core of the nut is exposed to the air) but as with all nuts and seeds, you need to throw away any which are chipped or broken. Also avoid hulled seeds ie hulled hemp and sesame.

I go for hemp, flax, sesame and hand sorted almonds.






Is soy good or bad?
For me the jury is out on soy products. Personally I think its okay in moderation, and soy milk is better than dairy. Sprouted soy is brilliant though. Always avoid GM soy as this will make you fat and mess up your hormones. Also, with many soy products they use a chemical solvent called hexane to extract the soy. This is especially true with soy protein which should be avoided.


Is cider Vinegar good?
If one's colon is clogged full of undigested proteins then drinking vinegar will burn away this impacted rubbish/congestion so that the colon can 'breathe' a little better and you get a perceived benefit. My dad used cider vinegar for his arthritis (which, is largely caused by acid congestion in the colon which leads to acid deposits elsewhere) and he did get a short term benefit. But, if you continue to use it without addressing the root of the problem, you just end up burning healthy tissue with acidic vinegar. Also vinegar is proton saturated and pulls energy (electrons) from the body. Plus vinegar is a product of fermentation so should be avoided. Magnesium oxide is a perfect way to cleanse to colon of debris and you get the same benefit as vinegar plus loads of other benefits (alkalinity, electrons, oxygen) and without the damage caused by the vinegar. They say vinegar is high in potassium but avocados are a great source of potassium and they are alkaline forming and electron rich. Basically there are much better ways to cleanse the colon.


Is ‘Braggs amino acids’ a good soy sauce substitute?
It is slightly acidic. It may be much less acidic then soy sauce and vinegar but contrary to some claims it is not alkalizing. This can be used as a substitute for soy sauce but you still need to use it in moderation. Now that you know salt is good for you, you can use salt for flavour where possible - try a dressing made with salt, lemon, cold pressed oil.

Nutritional yeast’
It is touted as a nutritious product because of vitamin B 12 levels (a hard to find vitamin) but when your gut is healthy, your intestinal flora will produce plenty of B-vitamins, including B 12. It is best to avoid all forms of yeast including marmite and nutritional yeast.



Is sodium bicarbonate the same as bicarbonate of soda that you use for baking etc?
I have heard that baking soda is tainted with aluminium in the manufacturing process - or maybe there are anti-caking ingredients added. Best to go for pharmaceutical grade (BP Grade) bicarb of soda.But essentially the 2 are the same in function - but purity is the issue. Boots the chemists don't sell it for some reason so try a Lloyds pharmacy or any independent one.

What is all the fuss about antioxidants?
We need a mix of pro-oxidants (essential fatty acids etc) and anti oxidants.
Pro oxidants are like fire starters or kindling, and ignite metabolism or our 'fire of life'. Some pro oxidants are better than others. Raw plant fats burn clean and steady, wheras cooked fats or sugars burn messy and hot. In the same way that a fire produces sparks as a result of combustion, when we burn or metabolise food, free radicals will be produced. Anti oxidants stop these free radicals from burning/damaging tissue in the same way that a fireguard or screen stops sparks from burning the livingroom carpet. So, you need a strong 'fire of life' or digestive fire/metabolism, but it needs to be a slow burn. You wouldnt pour jet fuel on your log fire at home, and in the same way you should avoid sugar.

Generally alkaline foods will create a strong fire which burns slow and powerfully. And an alklaine diet will also provide an abundance of anti oxidants too. So, it ticks all the boxes.



What are the other main factors required for pH balance and health?
How you approach this is very important. If you really feel you want to just run with the alkalizing thing then go for it but generally its best to change slowly. It takes time and energy to change lifelong habits without causing discomfort and stress. Don’t place unrealistic expectations on yourself about how quickly you should be progressing. Yes it is good to have goals and targets but its unrealistic to think it will be easy or that you won’t slip up at some stage. Remind yourself that if you fall off the wagon it is not a step backwards but that its just a smaller step forwards than usual. Just drink more water and pick yourself up and carry on. Focus on eating more vegetables instead of focussing on what you can’t or shouldn’t eat. As long as you are eating more vegetables each day then this counts as progress. So just keep plodding along and you health will improve. Make small changes which last and eventually you will build new habits. Alkalizing or any health programme can be a trap too. I have seen many people (myself included in the beginning) become obsessed with alkalizing and fearful of anything 'acidic' and this fear or stress generates acid and also drains your energy. You could be on the perfect alkaline diet but that doesn’t guarantee health. Your physical health can only progress according to growth in other areas of your being. Imagine a triangle that represents your holistic health (Mind, body and spirit) and to improve your health you need all sides of the triangle to get larger. So, you need to grow the triangle but keep each side equal. If one side is larger than another the shape becomes imbalanced. I find my physical health has only been able to progress according to spiritual and emotional development and this is something which can’t be forced. If you try to force the alkalizing process and focus on diet alone, you may get rid of your symptom but life will just slingshot you back to where you were before. You can’t fully alkalize your body whilst maintaining acidic thoughts such as anger and worry. You must work to raise you vibration to resonate with the levels of light involved in a high pH, high electron diet as otherwise there will be a conflict. That said, eating high vibration food will lift your mood and make you feel better and will make it easier to improve your attitude and choose better thoughts. Dietary change can become a form of control, a bit like anorexia. So gently plod along at your own rate.

Although the science clearly shows that acidity is a problem and that the modern food chain is disturbed, human spirit, or whatever you want to call it, needs to be taken into account. We also have the capacity to transmute toxins and our bodies are designed to withstand our spiritual unfolding, so our bodies can take a lot of abuse.


Temperature:
Drink warm water – cold water shuts digestion down and has a cumulative effect in making the body cold.
Wear thermals and warm clothes otherwise you will be wanting to eat ‘warming food’ all the time.








Other factors:
Dehydration.
EMF (electrical pollution)
Air pollution
Tap water (heavy metals, drugs residues etc)
Pesticides, fungicides, etc
Over-exercise.
Low exercise and poor breathing.
Amalgam dental material.
Vaccines.
Drugs especially antibiotics
Personal care products and household cleaning products
Stress and adrenalin. Thinking too much; brain is hungry for oxygen
Disconnection from nature
Healthy metabolism (you can never escape acidity – even producing energy from healthy alkaline food will create some acidity)

[domathy]

Great interview with marathon runner Stu Mittelmen - who ran 2 marathons per day for over 10 days consecutivley.


Stu Mittleman.mpg - YouTube

[domathy]

Excellent cheesey talk from Tony Robbins:


Anthony Robbins "The edge" On Alkaline Part 1 - YouTube

[domathy]

Here is a great resource for alkaline products, videos and information:

http://www.energiseforlife.com/

[domathy]

How to make almond milk:


Raw Almond Milk - YouTube



So, take a bag of almonds and soak in a container of water (1 pt almonds to 3 pts water) in the fridge overnight. Pour away the brown soak water and soak for another 12 hrs (the additional 12 hr soak isnt essential but does improve the quality of the milk). Pour away soak water and rinse almonds.
Put soaked almonds in a blender with 2 or 3 pts water to 1 pt almonds and blend till smooth. Then strain using a nut milk bag.

tip: all my nut milk bags are dead so i use a new sock atm (washed hot to remove any traces of dyes). Once blended i pour the nut mush into a pint glass or other tall container which the end of a sock can easily fit over, then just pour the mush into the sock and squeeze as shown in the above video. (this makes it easier than trying to spoon the mix into the sock from the blender.
But once you know you like almond milk its best to buy a nut milk bag online.

Can also do this with hemp seed to make hemp milk (perfect ratio of omega 3&6 for the blood). Soak hemp seed for minimum of 4 hours, pour off soak water and rinse. Then add hemp seeds and fresh water and follow same instructions as for making almond milk.

Just experiment with consistency to make it more or less creamy for your own taste.

[domathy]

Squeeze the juice of 3 or 4 lemons into a large container (needs to about twice the size of the volume of liquid used as the lemonade will fizz up when you make it. Add 1 or 2 pts water to the lemon juice. Then add about half a tsp to the lemon and water mix. It will fizz and then settle down. Just pour in to a glass and drink.

This is very alkalizing and lemons are 1/3 rd available oxygen so you will feel this drink lift your energy and will get a little buzz from it :D

[domathy]

Robert Young lecturing in Omaha Pt 1:


Dr Robert Young's lecture in Omaha part 1 of 7 - YouTube

[domathy]

Will It Light? Cola, Coffee, and Beer - YouTube

[domathy]

Salt and sugar:


Will It Light? Salt & Sugar - YouTube

You need salt if you want to be 'switched on' (use unprocessed pink himalayan salt or 'Redmond' real salt)

http://www.realsalt.com/

http://www.himalayancrystalsalt.co.uk/home.asp

[domathy]

Will It Light? Water - YouTube

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Roman Family Diabetes Testimonial - YouTube

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Inas Clovis pH Breast Cancer Story - YouTube



Cindy Wheatcraft pH Miracle Breast Cancer Testimonial - YouTube


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[domathy]

pH miracle body building -Ryan Marcotte by: Dr. Young - YouTube

[domathy]

Dr. Young's science creates a pH Miracle with Steve - YouTube

[plam]

Here is a list of the main acid forming factors with details of why they should be reduced in your diet. You will notice that the reason to avoid many foods is not because they are naturally bad, but rather because of the way the foods are produced, stored or processed in today’s modern world. (These foods should ideally be eliminated if you have a health challenge that you want to get rid of quickly)

Food combining:
Eating foods in the wrong combination will create extra acid, gas and bloating. For example fruit normally digests in about 30 minutes, but if the stomach is full of heavy food, then the fruit is forced to sit on top as it can’t get past to be absorbed. So it begins fermenting and this causes lots of acidity. Eating carbohydrates and meat at the same meal will cause a similar effect. Protein digestion requires an acid medium in the stomach and carbohydrate digestion requires an alkaline medium. When you eat meat and carbs together, the body releases both acid and alkaline digestive juices at the same time and these actually neutralize each other and neither the meat nor carbohydrates get properly digested, causing acid and stagnation. So eat fruit on an empty stomach. If you want to eat meat then it is best to eat with just vegetables and not with bread pasta or rice. Eat dairy alone and on an empty stomach.

Cooked food:
Ideally you should include some raw vegetables in your diet even if its only salad and avocado. Vegetables are alkaline and electron rich, but become more acidic and more proton saturated when you over cook it. Steamed or lightly cooked vegetables are very good, but just avoid really cooking it to death.

Cooked oils:
Try to avoid cooking with oils due to the fact that heat oxidizes the oil. Try using extra virgin coconut oil for cooking as it is much more stable and tolerates cooking temperatures without oxidizing. Steam fry your food and then add oil right at the end.

Sugar:
Sugar is like rocket fuel for yeast and is very acidic. However it is better to use sugar than to use artificial sweeteners. Aspartame for example is produced by feeding toxic materials to e-coli bacteria – the white powder produced by the bacteria is used to sweeten your coffee. The company that makes aspartame is the same company behind DDT and Agent Orange.
Sweet fruit has a lot of sugar (mangos, bananas, pineapples, grapes, oranges, apples, papaya, ) Most fruit is also genetically hybridised to make it sweeter. Also most fruit is picked before it is ripe (for transportation) which means it is more acidic. Fruit may have an alkaline pH, but the sugar content means it acidifies the body. Also avoid corn syrup, molasses and maple syrup.


Stored Grains, nuts and potatoes:
The problem with corn and many grains is the way in which they are stored. They are stored for so long and in such a way that they begin to ferment and turn fungal. The fungus is not destroyed by cooking temperatures and has been associated with many chronic diseases including cancer. Modern crops are also weaker due to human tampering which makes crops even more susceptible to fungus overgrowth. Fungal grains are more acid forming and the fungus contributes to a yeast overgrowth. Wheat, oats, barley, rye and corn tend to be the most fungal. These are also naturally the most acid forming grains anyway and so they should be replaced with grains detailed in Section 2. Many oils such as corn oil and other vegetable oils are very contaminated.

The same applies to peanuts and cashews. These should really be avoided because, due to modern farming and storage methods, they are very contaminated with fungus. (Practically ALL corn, peanuts and cashews are now contaminated) This is also because the surface of these foods is soft and fungus easily gets a foothold.

Potatoes are often contaminated with fungus. Sweet potatoes are great though.

Meat:
Meat is naturally acid forming and also livestock are mostly fed on stored grains (even organic livestock). The byproducts of the fermented grains accumulate in the fatty tissue of the livestock and these mycotoxins are not destroyed by cooking. Also, over 50% of the protein is denatured/destroyed by cooking. Humans are unable to fully digest meat. If eating meat, try to buy organic (no hormone or antibiotic injections) and eat with plenty of vegetables as the fiber will help sweep that acidity away and reduce fermentation. Pork is the most acid forming. Chicken, despite the healthy image, is also acid forming. Chickens do not have a separate urinary tract so much uric acid is re absorbed into the tissues – hence ‘juicy’ chicken.

Less Dairy:
Pasteurization removes any potential goodness in the milk by destroying enzymes and changing the molecular structure. Dairy is highly mucus forming and also the calcium is not compatible with the human body (hence why many doctors now say it does nothing to prevent osteoporosis). Dairy products should be avoided because of their lactose (milk sugar) content as well as the presence of yeast and fungus, molds, and their by-products. Also, due to the high sugar and fat content of dairy products, the fact that dairy cows are fed stored grains and fungal-based antibiotics, and the fermentation process of cheese and yogurt, all dairy products should ideally be eventually eliminated from the diet. Calcium can be obtained from green leafy vegetables, green drinks, collards, broccoli, okra, salmon, etc. Avoid milk, cheese, butter, yogurt, ice cream.

Eggs:
Due to chickens being fed fungal corn, most eggs have a high load of pathogenic microorganisms

Cut out the yeast:
Baked goods such as yeast breads, cakes and pastries should be avoided. According to the American Cancer Society, one out of nine American women will develop breast cancer by age 80. Research links it with the ingestion of baked goods and bakers or brewers yeast. Research also correlates diets containing yeast or fermented breads to gall stones, kidney stones and arthritis. Also avoid marmite and ‘nutritional’ yeast.

Tea, coffee, chocolate:
Tea, coffee and chocolate are all acid forming and contain caffeine. Decaf tea/coffee is not any better because they use formaldehyde to flush out the caffeine. Coffee and chocolate are also fermented. Also chocolate contains Theobromine which is a strong acid.

Alcohol:
Wine, beer, whiskey, brandy, gin, rum and vodka are purely mycotoxic. Alcohol is a fungus-produced mycotoxin made by yeast that causes direct injury to human health. If you want to drink alcohol then compensate with water and clay.

Mushrooms:
Mushrooms, algae, and truffles are all acid-forming foods. They contain mycotoxins which poison cells. Mushrooms in all forms are poisonous whether eaten whole or in teas. The mushroom is not a vegetable, but rather the fruiting body of a yeast or fungus. Also, note that corn and peanut, products have a high fungal content and should be avoided as well.

Condiments:
Soy sauce, mayonnaise, vinegar, ketchup. Avoid anything which is fermented or contains sugar, vinegar etc.


Avoid tobacco:
Tobacco leaves are coated with yeast, fungus, and mycotoxins, which poison the cells and tissues of the body. Research clearly reveals the pathway to cancer is the fermentation of the tobacco with yeast and sugar. When using tobacco, you are directly introducing dried fungus and wastes into your body. Also to prevent tobacco going moldy, manufactures introduce chemicals like formaldehyde and benzene as a preservative. Raw tobacco is not so bad.


Processed food
Try to avoid all processed food.



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Alkaline foods and other factors:

Stay Relaxed:
Emotional stress produces hydrochloric acid which is 3 x stronger than any dietary acids. So attitude is very important.
But also, when you start to eat more alkaline foods, your capacity to deal with emotional stress will improve. When you do get stressed, the acid and adrenaline created will be eliminated faster as your so your body recovers more quickly. But if the body and elimination organs are choked with acids from bad diet then acid and adrenaline from stress will hang around much longer and agitate the person even further. So a good diet helps people to keep a cool head and recover from stress much more quickly.


Food combining: Eat fruit alone, on an empty stomach and one variety at a time i.e. one banana or one portion of grapes. You can eat avocado with anything though. Try adding avocado to fruit to slow the release of sugar and reduce acid. Don’t eat meat with carbohydrates. Don’t eat dairy with carbohydrates or protein.

Hydrate: The easiest way to get rid of acid is to pee. You need to drink water to flush acids out. Aim to pee at least 12 times per day. Drink one gallon (4 liters) or more of a good quality water each day. This may sound like a lot if you are not used to drinking water but start small and then build up over time. Start with 1 liter per day then build up over weeks and months. You get used to drinking and the feeling associated with being well hydrated. Before you know it, drinking non acidic fluids will become habit. Purified/energized water is best as it is easier to drink than tap water which can taste and feel unpleasant. Tap water, due to its poor structure, just sits in your belly and doesn’t get absorbed properly so it makes you need to pee right away. If you are drinking good water you will not need to pee so urgently and as you get used to hydrating will be able to comfortably hold more water in your bladder for longer.

Salt. real, unrefined, unprocessed salt is actually essential for good health! Redmond Real Salt and Himalayan Salt are two very good brands of salt to use and you should add it liberally to food. It is very alkalizing and healthful. It is a pink colour and looks and tastes totally different to table salt. Table salt (the white stuff you see in salt shakers) is an industrial chemical because it is produced mostly for industrial purposes. The 10% not used in industry ends up in people’s food. Table salt has been bleached, cooked at over 1200 degrees, had anti-caking ingredients added and it is stripped of all other minerals. The white table salt you find in supermarkets is best avoided. Try to get unprocessed salt from ancient deposits which have been naturally protected from modern pollution. It is best to use salt that is extracted from underground deposits or from the Himalayan or other mountain ranges. Open mines or salt taken from modern oceans is likely to be more polluted. Also, even if a product is labeled ‘sea salt’ it may only contain 1% sea salt as labeling laws are very relaxed
low sugar fruit: LOW sugar fruits have all the benefits of high sugar fruit (mango, etc.) but without the fungus stimulating properties of fructose. Tomatoes (which are alkaline when raw), cucumber (very alkaline/electron saturated) avocados, (very alkalizing and a great source of energy, antioxidants, potassium, good fats, etc and are very easy to digest, eat several per day) Grapefruit, lemons and limes are all very alkalizing (the acids in citrus are volatile and evaporate off very quickly so citrus is alkaline and with 1/3 available oxygen). Small berries such as blueberries, blackberries, raspberries and strawberries are good.

Vegetables: Good, low carbohydrate vegetables include asparagus, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, green beans, peppers, spinach, kale, lettuce, onions, garlic, parsley, and squash. About 80% of all meals should be fresh, raw (or lightly cooked, alkalizing vegetables.

Good fats: Avocado, olive oil, coconut oil and other cold pressed oils are great. Raw plant fats are excellent for your health.

Good grains. The following grains are less prone to fermentation; spelt, millet quinoa, amaranth and buckwheat. These grains fall into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods. Complex carbohydrates are acid-forming in the body and should not exceed 20% of the diet, so eat them in moderation. . Try not to store grains in areas of the kitchen which are exposed to steam and heat from cooking as this will cause the grains to go moldy. You can still eat bread but make sure you choose sourdough (yeast free) spelt bread. Paul’s spelt bread is very good (www.soyfoods.co.uk) if you live in the UK.

Soaked nuts: It is important to soak nuts and seeds in water overnight to make them edible. Hemp, flax, sesame and almonds are good. Discard any broken or chipped nuts from the bag. The skin/hull is designed to protect the nut/seed from oxygen, so when the skin is chipped away the nut is exposed and the oil inside will oxidize. Look at a bag of shelled brazil nuts in any health store – most of them are missing their protective brown skin and large areas of the nut are exposed to the air. The nut has gone a yellow colour which indicates that the oil has turned rancid. The same applies with pine and macadamia nuts as, because they don’t have a skin, they oxidize as soon as the shell is removed.
Good fresh fish. Organic fresh oily fish can be beneficial. (Fish falls into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods) Try to avoid tuna as it contains a lot of mercury.

Dairy: Unpasteurized dairy is okay provided the livestock are grass fed only. Also goat’s cheese is okay in moderation.

Daily rhythms: When you eat breakfast, lunch and dinner at roughly the same time each day the body becomes conditioned and is ready for the task of digestion – in other words it has time to prepare and knows what to expect. Try to eat and sleep at regular times.


Attitude: Do not focus all your attention on making your diet perfect. All that happens is you become a bit odd and obsessed with food (I’m taking from experience) Make small changes based on your new understandings. Transition slowly unless you have a really chronic health challenge. Also do not let yourself believe that all this is too much, or too extreme or overwhelming. Just make small steps each day – small steps really do add up. Even if all you take from this is drinking more water then this is still a very positive thing and will benefit you greatly in the long run. Find your own approach and try not to label things as ‘good’ or ‘bad’. The body is resilient and can survive on most diets – this is about empowering yourself and learning how to support your body, whilst living in the real world, not trying to be perfect. It is recommended that you approach any dietary/lifestyle changes in the spirit of ‘choosing better health’ as opposed to ‘fear of illness.’ Just do what feels right and find your own way with things, as you become more alkaline you will be more in tune with what your body wants and your tastes will change accordingly – so don’t force things too much. Also remember, this is not some cultish thing. Find what works for you.
If you fall off the wagon, just get back on. Its not a step back, just a smaller step forward than the day before. And sometimes you do actually need to go backwards to go forwards – don’t expect to be able to conquer all your habits in one go.

Now I would have given this post 10 out 10 if it wasn't leaning so much towards vegetarianism! ;)

Good job, thank you, Domathy!

[wildhorse]

done me shot of him. salt water this morning....yeah i can handle that mucho mucho better :D

i like my lemon and water unsalted for sure....love that stuff, so refreshing and cleansing as always

and i ran out of my alta rica intense coffee...ive not bought anymore...jus sticking with my tea. for me its more about ditching my other habits as opposed to increasing alkalising foods...like yourself, jus love me veggies, big bloody plate of them lightly steamed and seasoned....felt as satisfying as a sunday nosh up

like others have said its the ratio 70/30 - 80/20 alk/acid and i always found your body gets into it, so you can eat what you want, because when you do have a time when you eat say a cake or something (:o), you actually crave eating healthy again. fanatical dogma is never good in anything, and obsessing bout food is unhealthy in my opinion, but...when you start bit by bit to just add the right stuff to your body, it becomes second nature, simply because it is our bodies true nature

its jus funny how the veg and fruit you mention are the ones i go for and have been eating om nom nom...

[domathy]

Now I would have given this post 10 out 10 if it wasn't leaning so much towards vegetarianism! ;)

Good job, thank you, Domathy!

Lovely, thankyou :)
Like i say in the article - its best to find what works for you. Rob Young's alklaine diet is not a 'one size fits all' and everyones different. The one universal thing required for most people is more alklainity and less fermentation - and this approch works well to achieve this, but everyone needs to tailor and find what works. There is a raw food guy who says virbationally some people still require meat, but its not a physical requirement as such. Personally i thrive best on easy to digest plant foods.
But Lulushka8 has changed my veiw of milk :D
But gorillas have the same intestinal tract as us and dont eat meat - and they dont suffer from over alklinity

done me shot of him. salt water this morning....yeah i can handle that mucho mucho better :D

i like my lemon and water unsalted for sure....love that stuff, so refreshing and cleansing as always

and i ran out of my alta rica intense coffee...ive not bought anymore...jus sticking with my tea. for me its more about ditching my other habits as opposed to increasing alkalising foods...like yourself, jus love me veggies, big bloody plate of them lightly steamed and seasoned....felt as satisfying as a sunday nosh up

like others have said its the ratio 70/30 - 80/20 alk/acid and i always found your body gets into it, so you can eat what you want, because when you do have a time when you eat say a cake or something (:o), you actually crave eating healthy again. fanatical dogma is never good in anything, and obsessing bout food is unhealthy in my opinion, but...when you start bit by bit to just add the right stuff to your body, it becomes second nature, simply because it is our bodies true nature

its jus funny how the veg and fruit you mention are the ones i go for and have been eating om nom nom...

Youll come to really like the salt water. And the lemonade is lovely. Sounds like youre taking the right approach - and enjoying your veg too om nom nom :D And its true about eating junk food - you soon crave veggies and real nourishment when youve eaten a load of empty calories.

[plam]

Lovely, thankyou :)
Like i say in the article - its best to find what works for you.

Seriously I read it again and it's near perfect. Concise guide to perhaps the best eating regime for optimum health.

I don't know if many realise what a gem this piece is and it's free!
Thanks again!

[silverwand]

My god Dom, I just looked at all the posts you posted on this thread today. You were on a roll this morning werent you, 21 posts I think I counted back to back :eek: Not that i'm complaining as always what you post is well worth the read :)

[domathy]

Seriously I read it again and it's near perfect. Concise guide to perhaps the best eating regime for optimum health.

I don't know if many realise what a gem this piece is and it's free!
Thanks again!

Thanks for the feedback and encouragement :)
I never know if what i write makes sense to others, so i like hearing words like "concise" being used to describe what i've written :p

My god Dom, I just looked at all the posts you posted on this thread today. You were on a roll this morning werent you, 21 posts I think I counted back to back :eek: Not that i'm complaining as always what you post is well worth the read :)

Yeah, I was high on lemonade :p
And well done for counting...... 21 is a good number too:
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu21.php

[silverwand]

Thanks for the feedback and encouragement :)
I never know if what i write makes sense to others, so i like hearing words like "concise" being used to describe what i've written :p



Yeah, I was high on lemonade :p
And well done for counting...... 21 is a good number too:http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu21.php

Yeah but 33 is a better number :p well I would say that as it's my "life path number" :rolleyes:

As for the lemonade myself and especially my mum are getting addicted to the stuff theres lemons everywhere :D

[domathy]

Yeah but 33 is a better number :p well I would say that as it's my "life path number" :rolleyes:

As for the lemonade myself and especially my mum are getting addicted to the stuff theres lemons everywhere :D

I dont even know what a life path number is :confused:
Does everyone have one?

Yes, the lemonade is great - im into hemp and almond milk too this week :)

[lulushka8]

But Lulushka8 has changed my veiw of milk :D


erm :confused: :eek: :(

But gorillas have the same intestinal tract as us and dont eat meat - and they dont suffer from over alklinity

we probably eat insects like them without realising (on veg).

[lulushka8]

Seriously I read it again and it's near perfect. Concise guide to perhaps the best eating regime for optimum health.

I don't know if many realise what a gem this piece is and it's free!
Thanks again!

aww, i like you plam, you're a big softy beneath that hungry leopard veneer. :D

[domathy]

erm :confused: :eek: :(

**domathy curses himself - did i really say the milk thing out loud??**

we probably eat insects like them without realising (on veg).

So are you saying meat is good now?

[lulushka8]

So are you saying meat is good now?

noooooo! :p

but there are probably microscopic living insects on somethings you eat especially if you're foraging and eating as you pick.

[lulushka8]

re milk:

http://www.naturalnews.com/033075_milk_chemical_contamination.html

[silverwand]

I dont even know what a life path number is :confused:
Does everyone have one? Yes, the lemonade is great - im into hemp and almond milk too this week :)

Yep you just add up your birthdate starting with day, month, and year. let's say you are born on 14/03/1985. that would add up to 31, you then reduce it down to a single digit number which would in this case be 3+1= 4, so your life path number according to numerology (i'm no expert this is what i've been told) would be number 4. The only times you are not to reduce a double digit down to a single digit is if you have what is called a Master number, such as 11, 22, 33 or 44. Master numbers are supposed to be quite rare.

As for the milk i've never had hemp or almond milk but I want to try it.

[silverwand]

re milk:

http://www.naturalnews.com/033075_milk_chemical_contamination.html

I've gotten to the point where dairy milk actually makes me feel sick just by looking at it. I think of all the male calves that are killed on dairy farms as soon as they are born just because they are male and are therefore not going to be financially benefitial to the people running them. It's a sick way of viewing life :mad: i've tried to tell others about all the hormones, anti-biotics etc in dairy but it tends to fall on deaf ears.

[akana]

I dont even know what a life path number is :confused:
Does everyone have one?

Yes, the lemonade is great - im into hemp and almond milk too this week :)

VeBest Numerology Software calculates all of your numbers, automatically
(if you dont like doing math) http://www.vebest.com/products/hobby/12-numerology.html

[silverwand]

VeBest Numerology Software calculates all of your numbers, automatically
(if you dont like doing math) http://www.vebest.com/products/hobby/12-numerology.html

Thanks for that Akana :D
Even though I know what my number is I just used that site for a reading just to see what it says in my free report.

[domathy]

noooooo! :p

but there are probably microscopic living insects on somethings you eat especially if you're foraging and eating as you pick.

jeeez :(
I'll be buying non-organic from now on.

re milk:

http://www.naturalnews.com/033075_milk_chemical_contamination.html

Thats a good article - i like those naturalnews reports

Yep you just add up your birthdate starting with day, month, and year. let's say you are born on 14/03/1985. that would add up to 31, you then reduce it down to a single digit number which would in this case be 3+1= 4, so your life path number according to numerology (i'm no expert this is what i've been told) would be number 4. The only times you are not to reduce a double digit down to a single digit is if you have what is called a Master number, such as 11, 22, 33 or 44. Master numbers are supposed to be quite rare.

As for the milk i've never had hemp or almond milk but I want to try it.

Ah, thanks for that - Im a 3, that sounds quite rubbish :(

I've gotten to the point where dairy milk actually makes me feel sick just by looking at it. I think of all the male calves that are killed on dairy farms as soon as they are born just because they are male and are therefore not going to be financially benefitial to the people running them. It's a sick way of viewing life :mad: i've tried to tell others about all the hormones, anti-biotics etc in dairy but it tends to fall on deaf ears.

I do feel sick at the thought of drinking a glass of milk.

[domathy]

VeBest Numerology Software calculates all of your numbers, automatically
(if you dont like doing math) http://www.vebest.com/products/hobby/12-numerology.html

Thanks Akana, another great link :)
Im off to get my report now :eek:

[akana]

Thanks Akana, another great link :)
Im off to get my report now :eek:


Np:) The software dont give you the full report, only some in the trial version,

But do this: Write down all your numbers, then go to this site (http://www.decoz.com/DoReading_numerology.htm) to get the complete + free meaning of them all

[lulushka8]

Np:) The software dont give you the full report, only some in the trial version,

But do this: Write down all your numbers, then go to this site (http://www.decoz.com/DoReading_numerology.htm) to get the complete + free meaning of them all

thank you Akana! i'm reading about my number (8) now. :D

[silverwand]

Ah, thanks for that - Im a 3, that sounds quite rubbish :(

Ha ha yeah your right 3 does sound quite rubbish :D
Only kidding :p

[akana]

Yw :)

So back on topic of alkalizing.. I read that wildhorse was putting redmond salt with his lime water? I thought that sodium bicarb was used, and not salt? Or does salt and lemon/lime also do something alkalizing?

[silverwand]

That's odd neither of these sites mention master numbers which are according to what a friend of mine said (and what i've looked up myself) very important in numerology :confused:

[akana]

That's odd neither of these sites mention master numbers which are according to what a friend of mine said (and what i've looked up myself) very important in numerology :confused:


]that site does mention master numbers http://www.decoz.com/Masternumbers.htm

[plam]

re milk:

http://www.naturalnews.com/033075_milk_chemical_contamination.html

The article is unbalanced as it does not mention any benefits at all and not a word about raw milk.

I personally judge the credibility of a website by the number of adverts it has, this site is blinking with adverts like a christmas tree. :D

[lulushka8]

The article is unbalanced as it does not mention any benefits at all and not a word about raw milk.

I personally judge the credibility of a website by the number of adverts it has, this site is blinking with adverts like a christmas tree. :D

fair point. :rolleyes:

we're both biased on this so lets just disagree and be friends. :D

[akana]

Domathy, is it better to eat acid-forming foods in the morning or at night?

I usually eat those with dinner.

[akana]

And have you, Domathy, ever hear about or study RBTI - Ream's Biological Theory of Ionization


Dr Carey Reams was both a physician and an agronomist. His medical degree, completed in England, included an undergraduate degree in chemistry.

His model explains the cause of degenerative disease—namely, ionic mineral deficiencies causing electrochemical depletion, distortion, disruption and destruction of the ideal and healthy environment of the basic molecular components and subcomponents of the cells. Additionally, and most importantly, this model provides the exact tool required to address the cause of the electrochemical dysfunctions that are called dis-eases, and reverse them.

He discovered that all the variables of the human soil can be determined from a persons urine plus saliva. Using these figures, he could tell the person exactly what's his condition, exactly where a tumor is forming, and he could predict when a person might get a heart attack.
http://www.newtreatments.org/reams
**perfect pH according to him is (blood pH 7.5, saliva and urine pH 6.4)**

[domathy]

Np:) The software dont give you the full report, only some in the trial version,

But do this: Write down all your numbers, then go to this site (http://www.decoz.com/DoReading_numerology.htm) to get the complete + free meaning of them all

I'll look at that one too. I got the feeling they paint a more rosie picture in the readings as they want to sell software - nevertheless my report was very accurate on a number of things and i was quite suprised.
Ah, thanks for that - Im a 3, that sounds quite rubbish :(

Ha ha yeah your right 3 does sound quite rubbish :D
Only kidding :p

Such a litte showoff you are, with your 'master numbers' :p
Anyway, Im a 3,2,1 and turns out im special too (in my own special way) :p

Yw :)

So back on topic of alkalizing.. I read that wildhorse was putting redmond salt with his :p lime water? I thought that sodium bicarb was used, and not salt? Or does salt and lemon/lime also do something alkalizing?

Ah, thats cos she couldnt afford both so had to choose between buying bicarb or salt. So, yes use bicarb for the lemonade - speaking of which im off to make some now :)

[domathy]

The article is unbalanced as it does not mention any benefits at all and not a word about raw milk.

I personally judge the credibility of a website by the number of adverts it has, this site is blinking with adverts like a christmas tree. :D

I know ghandi was ill from fasting so he took a goat with him everywhere (along with the 2 young virgins he slept with every night) and drank raw goats milk which brought him back to good health. And have heard of raw dairy used to cure lots of diseases. I will do a bit of research as i dont always agree with everything Dr Young says - but Ive never tried raw dairy myself so cant comment. Plus i am sickened by the way animals in general are treated as a commodity. Im not saying it will make a person sick if used responsibly by a healty person - just that its not essential for health and people can be very healthy without it

fair point. :rolleyes:

we're both biased on this so lets just disagree and be friends. :D

I agree, why dont you agree to disagree and get a room :)

Domathy, is it better to eat acid-forming foods in the morning or at night?

I usually eat those with dinner.

I would say best to eat alkaline up till midday as the body is still in the cleanse cycle - so eat acid foods for lunch or dinner (but not too late at night).

And have you, Domathy, ever hear about or study RBTI - Ream's Biological Theory of Ionization


http://www.newtreatments.org/reams
**perfect pH according to him is (blood pH 7.5, saliva and urine pH 6.4)**

I'll take a look at that. i'll need to read slowly as there are lots of long words being used :p

[domathy]

The dangers of raw milk and live yogurt:


Punt and Dennis - Mr. Strange - Milky Milky! - YouTube


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[domathy]

And have you, Domathy, ever hear about or study RBTI - Ream's Biological Theory of Ionization


http://www.newtreatments.org/reams
**perfect pH according to him is (blood pH 7.5, saliva and urine pH 6.4)**

Summary
Dr. Reams realized that the soil was everything, just like Pasteur said on his dead bed: "The soil is everything, the germ is nothing". :D yep

The Curse Causeless shall not Come - true :)

As Enderlein showed, our body runs in perfect harmony with the protits when the pH is 7.4, (7.365 - but close enough)

The anionic Lemon
Dr. Reams states that each and every food is cationic. There is only one exception: The lemon ("citroen" in Dutch), which is anionic. So, to metabolise our food, we need to produce anionic foods that balance the cationic foods we eat. Otherwise we can't get any friction and thus no energy out of our food.
Maybe thats why i drive a citroen car :D

The information needs a bit of tweaking and updating but on the whole Reams was very ahead of his time - especially the health retreat he ran and treating the terminal patients. Is pretty much saying the same as Dr Young and is looking at the energetics of food to determine if they are good or not. Good post :)

[akana]

Good post :)

Thanks :) Good summary

[domathy]

12 Alkalizing Recipes in 30 Minutes or Less

http://curezone.com/upload/PDF/12AlkalineRecipesIn30MinutesOrLess.pdf

46-Page Alkaline Cookbook + Chart (free)

http://www.phionbalance.com/download


also helps to add a ripe banana or ripe apple

I missed this post. But yes youre totally right. I didnt know apples worked too :)

I've been vegetarian and vegan most of my life (back and forth). I have noticed changes, mainly in my mood and in the face that my ghrelin hormone is completely under control ! Similarly, when I was on the Alternate Day Fast program, the ghrelin was controlled then also.

I havent done alternate day fasting but used to fast every sunday for ages and now im a healthy weight would like to start doing that again.

ALKALINE DIET RECIPES E-BOOK -The 33 Best Recipes with Pictures + Calories per Serving!

http://www.alkaline-recipes.com/?hop=eclick111

6 FREE Alkaline Recipes For You to Enjoy!

http://www.alkalinecookbook.com.au/recipes.php

3 free alkaline recipes you can enjoy

http://www.alkalinecookbook.com.au/3-free-alkaline-recipes-you-can-enjoy-today-on-me/news-125.html

Free 38 Page Alkaline cook Book pdf

http://www.alkalinediethealthtips.com/support-files/www.alkalinediethealthtips.com-recipes.pdf

Domathy - I finally found some easy to understand food-combining charts, available in download PDF form



http://acidalkalinediet.com/foodcombiningchart.pdf (http://acidalkalinediet.com/foodcombiningchart.pdf)

This chart is really handy and simple :)

http://acidalkalinediet.com/listofalkalinefoods.pdf

Question: If all sugars are harmful, then what about the fact that all fruits, vegetables, grains, and legumes convert their various carbohydrates to simple sugars. (Complex carbs => simple carbs)?

I missed this post too! I think the main difference is the speed at which the sugar enters the blood sugar. Fructose is like rocket fuel and causes big spikes of insulin levels. Whereas grains, legumes and fats convert much more slowly.
Fats are the best source of energy/blood sugar because the convert so sugar slow and steady plus create much less acid when metabolised.