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domathy
20-06-2011, 03:57 PM
heheh walter wall. Gary Neville's dad is apparently Neville Neville, but thats different.

Doctor Cockburn has a nice ring to it
cock ring? :p
whoa I just realised synchronocity = syn chrono city

so time + place = synchronicity! (syn = at the same time / together)
glitch in the matrix?

Yeah, I never put that all together. I guess the word sound like the phenomenon it describes ie synch and chrono - but im always happy when people save the effort of thinking, so thanks

citi = vagina btw (symbolically giving birth to the civi-lisation)
and County, or Country....? take away the O..?!

I'll stop now!

peace out

Sorry, you'll need to explain the vagina reference. :confused:
Ah, vagina synchronicity! no, i give up :(

leon11
20-06-2011, 04:23 PM
heheh no matter....wrong meeting!

i keep forgetting to ask you dom....what do you brush your teeth with? Ive heard people use sodium bicarb?

I go with an organic, fluoride-free paste for now but Im sure there's more effective methods...

domathy
20-06-2011, 07:19 PM
heheh no matter....wrong meeting!

i keep forgetting to ask you dom....what do you brush your teeth with? Ive heard people use sodium bicarb?

I go with an organic, fluoride-free paste for now but Im sure there's more effective methods...

Clay. Have done for 3 years I think.
I saw a dentist and was stunned by my oral health. (gums etc)
She said i must be using a good high flouride toothpaste.
I told her was clay is all i use. She was very suprised, but came from Africa
and says had heard very good things about clay and said she would research it.
ALso, i soak my mouth with a blob of wet clay for as long as i can comfortably hold. If i have a long motorway drive on on the PC for ages, wil put in my mouth as heals teeth and gums and feels nise too. Will loosen any plaque too.

scottishryan
21-06-2011, 10:31 AM
domathy?

Do you have any suggestions on a bread substitute I can use? I do have a bread maker too here so pretty easy to make something!

Need something for dipping in my home made soup :D

hypnoticspectre
21-06-2011, 10:54 AM
Very interested in if its possible to make healthy bread, or is it a recipe for disaster.
Also are Liquid Amino's any good? Ive seen some Soy Sauce's (Braggs) that claim to be Anti-Candida/Alkalizing & good for general well being, but am skeptical... :confused:

domathy
21-06-2011, 12:18 PM
domathy?

Do you have any suggestions on a bread substitute I can use? I do have a bread maker too here so pretty easy to make something!

Need something for dipping in my home made soup :D

Spelt flour is great. Dont ask me for a recepie as ive never made bread in my life I buy sourdough spelt bread and works great with veg soup! Otherwise see if your local health shop sells it.

Very interested in if its possible to make healthy bread, or is it a recipe for disaster.

Pls see the above post ^

Also are Liquid Amino's any good? Ive seen some Soy Sauce's (Braggs) that claim to be Anti-Candida/Alkalizing & good for general well being, but am skeptical... :confused:

Braggs is better than soy sauce, but its not great for you. Dr Young used to reccomend it in the early days but now says to avoid if poss. In moderation is fine though. Its just not accurate for them to say its alkalizing and anti-candida. Maybe compared to soy sauce i suppose, but still not alkalizing.

scottishryan
21-06-2011, 02:00 PM
Thanks domathy, will get looking into it now :):)

domathy
21-06-2011, 06:47 PM
Thanks domathy, will get looking into it now :):)

Let us know how you get on! :) :)

scottishryan
21-06-2011, 07:52 PM
Will Do,

For now I have found that you buy the flour from good old Tesco and I have a recipe for the bread maker. In addition I can make pizza bases with it too...I make my own Pizza sauce from Organic Tomato's, Organic Sauce, Mixed Herbs, Lemon Juice and a little touch of Sugar (naught I know but just a touch) and store in the fridge already (used to work in a take away as Pizza Chef)

Throw a ton of lovely veg on and can have with or without cheese I suppose...but taking it slowly so may start with for a few weeks and just slowly reduce the baddy items lol.

Another good one is Olive Oil, Garlic Cloves and butter mixed in the blender to make a Garlic butter that you spread on your pizza bases and a ton of veg could be added with drizzles on top.

Again Dairy products but I plan to stay as unprocessed as possible, for only 1 meal a day and reduce over time! Suppose its a transition

If anyone likes chilli sauce...try this for your salads....

Take a cabbage and cut up and place in blender, add an organic tomato juice/tinned organic chopped or organic tomato pasta sauce....jalapeño peppers and cayenne powder and herbs to your taste. Blend it away and you are left with a spice thick consistent sauce to drizzle or dip. Not sure about the Alkaline levels though :o

butterfly86
21-06-2011, 08:03 PM
I have yet to read through all the pages, but is there a quick list of vitamins someone should be taking as well? A specific brand or supplement.

I eat raw foods, vegetables and fruits only, and only drink water and tea.

Thank you.

scottishryan
21-06-2011, 08:04 PM
Ok I found this site with a table of foods...what the opinions on the accuracy of it?

Basically I am trying to formulate possible meals and recipes by keeping low on acid forming and pushing more into the alkaline side of course. ;)

http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/carbs/492

domathy
22-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Ok I found this site with a table of foods...what the opinions on the accuracy of it?

Basically I am trying to formulate possible meals and recipes by keeping low on acid forming and pushing more into the alkaline side of course. ;)

http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/carbs/492

Sorry. Total shite. The traditional method of testing pH is flawed. THey take the food and incinerate it - then thest the ash for mineral content. Fruit has alkaline minerals - but is very, very high in sugar. Sugar acidifys the body no least because it is like rocket fuel for yeasy/candidia. But all the sugar is burned with the ash method so not taken into account. Try this list:

http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html
:)

scottishryan
22-06-2011, 12:51 PM
Thanks domathy! I was getting confused as there seems to be different lists all over the place but your explanation makes sense if the testing is flawed with some :D

leon11
22-06-2011, 08:09 PM
Clay. Have done for 3 years I think.
I saw a dentist and was stunned by my oral health. (gums etc)
She said i must be using a good high flouride toothpaste.
I told her was clay is all i use. She was very suprised, but came from Africa
and says had heard very good things about clay and said she would research it.
ALso, i soak my mouth with a blob of wet clay for as long as i can comfortably hold. If i have a long motorway drive on on the PC for ages, wil put in my mouth as heals teeth and gums and feels nise too. Will loosen any plaque too.


Could you give us a link to the clay you use? Sorry if you have already...

domathy
22-06-2011, 08:41 PM
Could you give us a link to the clay you use? Sorry if you have already...

http://www.redmondclay.com/

I buy 18 lbs at a time to justify shipping and import duty from USA - so, i'll be ordering soon and can combine an order for you if you want.

leon11
22-06-2011, 09:11 PM
thank yuh that sounds great. maybe there'd be a few people interested here?

let me know whenever you're ready =)

knewt01
23-06-2011, 12:04 PM
http://www.redmondclay.com/

I buy 18 lbs at a time to justify shipping and import duty from USA - so, i'll be ordering soon and can combine an order for you if you want.

Clay-dealer! :eek: ;)

domathy
23-06-2011, 01:17 PM
Clay-dealer! :eek: ;)

iz good stuff yo.

lulushka8
23-06-2011, 02:36 PM
thank yuh that sounds great. maybe there'd be a few people interested here?


me too.

domathy
23-06-2011, 02:47 PM
me too.

Yeah, but I know Leon11, so i know he'll pay up when i send the stuff. You look a bt shifty :p

lulushka8
23-06-2011, 05:49 PM
and you look virtuous. :rolleyes:

domathy
23-06-2011, 08:00 PM
and you look virtuous. :rolleyes:

I dont need to be virtuous. Im the dealer :cool:

domathy
24-06-2011, 08:38 PM
FAQ’s



Is fat good or bad?Fat is only bad if it is either cooked or if it is from fungal contaminated grains/seeds (the body will build fat cells to store the toxins in cooked or rancid oils – but it is not the fat which causes weight gain). Raw plant fats will never make you fat or make you sick, in fact a deficiency in fats can make you fat and sick. Fats are very unfairly demonized. The body needs EFA’s or essential fatty acids (omega 3&6 oils) to build healthy cells (the cell membrane of a blood cell is made of omega 3 & 6). They are essential (as their name suggests) because the body cannot manufacture them. These oils are present in nuts, seeds and oily fish and are required for virtually every function in the body. Most people are very deficient in EFA’s due to poor diet and also the fact that cooking will destroy/denature these oils. Topping up your oil levels will make a drastic difference to your health and how you feel.

I recommend using an oil supplement as even a healthy diet will not provide nearly enough to compensate for years of deficiency (and contrary to what you are told, eating oily fish is not sufficient and cooking will denature the oils too) but unfortunately it is VERY difficult to buy good quality oil. Once oil is pressed from a seed, it is no longer protected by the hull and will react with oxygen. If there is any heat, air or light in the manufacturing process and it will go rancid/oxidize. The equipment required to press oil without oxidization is very expensive so most people do it the ‘cheap and cheerful’ way then label it 'cold pressed' (the laws are very relaxed on labeling – and they can call anything ‘cold pressed’ if they wish). Shockingly most oil is rancid before it even hits the shop floor and has a bitter, rancid taste. Try and find ‘Udo's oil’ or ‘Barleans oil’ – these are both great brands as are manufactured properly. They also contain a blend of seed oils to provide the correct ratio of omega 3&6 (same ratio required for blood production). I have tested all the most common brands and the oil is rancid. I’ve even tested 'fresh' hemp seed oil that was just hours old and again the oil was oxidized, which is such a shame as hemp naturally contains the perfect ratio of omega 3&6.

Storage is very important too. I normally buy Udo's oil from my local health store as they keep the oil in the freezer and so freshness is guaranteed. It is a small shop with low turnover so it is good that they freeze the oil. At very least the shop must store the oil in the fridge and not at room temperature when it is kept in their store room.
Do some research - find a shop/online supplier who is sympathetic to what I just wrote as it is worth the research. You need oil, and if you find a good source it will make a massive difference to your health. It probably the most important issue regarding health. Ask your local health store to keep some in the freezer for you as its good to transport it home frozen if possible. Otherwise just keep it cool (in a cool bag maybe, or wrap it in something) and put it in fridge as quick as poss. Store it in fridge, don’t leave the lid off bottle too long, and don’t expose to light (heat, air, and light will cause this amazing oil to oxidize and go off). If you are going away for a while you can freeze the bottle and thaw on your return. You can freeze/thaw the oil as many times as you want. If using Udo's oil on food, just wait for the food to cool down a bit first otherwise heat will cause the oil to begin oxidizing. You can use it in fresh dressings or take straight off the spoon.


More about fats:
So, you need fats for building blood (omega 3&6 from flax, borage, hemp, fish etc), but you can also get energy from specific other fats (coconut, avocado, olive oil etc). Fats are a very excellent source of calories, and in theory we don’t even need carbohydrates as the body can convert fat into blood sugar for energy.
Most energy production generates acidic byproducts. Cars produce carbon dioxide (an acidic gas) when they burn petrol and, in a similar way, we produce metabolic acids while burning calories (more or less acid according to the fuel we choose). Fats in their raw plant form are a much cleaner fuel than carbohydrates; they burn slowly and do not generate nearly so much acid. By comparison carbohydrates are a dirtier fuel and produce more acids which put stress on the body. Getting energy from sugar/carbohydrates will create an acidic, low oxygen environment and will agitate your nervous system. Sugar metabolism gobbles up oxygen like petrol on a bonfire. Whereas fats create a stable, alkaline and oxygenated environment which makes you feel calm and focused – leaving lots of oxygen for your brain and muscles to work properly. Lactic acid is created when your cells burn sugar without enough oxygen being present. Lactic acid is very poisonous. It’s best to exercise slowly and to use fat for fuel- with focus on stamina. Explosive, adrenaline/sugar based exercise will quickly burn up all the oxygen and then lactic acid is formed. The ‘no pain, no gain’ mantra is wrong. Muscle can be built without pain as long as you have healthy red blood cells to build new muscle with. Slow burn is a great book, written by Stu Mittelman. He runs very long distances using fats for fuel and focusing on pH balance. The body can only store a small amount of sugar, (hence why runners load up on carbs and then still need sugar gels etc when running) but the body can store lots of energy in the form of fat – this is how primitive man covered lots of ground – using stored up fat. Flow Jo, the famous exercise guru diet of a heart attack at a young age. She was a champion of the USDA food pyramid with emphasis on eating carbs for fuel. Using carbs for fuel will create lactic acid which weakens the heart and other muscles, in the long run.
Fats are essential to keeping blood sugar levels nice and stable. Getting energy from fat allows the pancreas to ‘rest’ and to heal, whereas sugar metabolism taxes the pancreas as it is forced to constantly produce insulin. Fats provide a slow release of energy/blood sugar which prevents the fungi stimulating blood sugar spikes associated with carbohydrates. The problem is that most of us have conditioned our body to burn carbs for fuel (probably because it is such a lazy way to get energy). Its will take a while to condition and train the body to burn fats effectively. Exercise is required to raise metabolism every day (even brisk walking once or twice a day) otherwise the fats you eat won’t be burned properly. Also, the 'little and often' approach is important. If you start downing fats and oils you will stall your digestion and feel sluggish. If you've ever made a small bonfire then dumped loads of wood on it, you will see how the flames go out as it chokes the flames. It is the same in the body, you need to stoke the fire gently (ie build metabolism) and, as your body burns fats better, you can keep adding more fat to your diet. Also it requires a mental shift as carbs give you a rush, and fats give you nothing exciting at first. But, as metabolism shifts you start to feel you are getting really good consistent energy from fat.
Fats are also very alkalizing and are used by the body to buffer acids. The name ‘essential fatty acids’ is misleading because they are alkaline forming and the body uses fat to buffer and neutralize acids and make them safe.
Avocados and coconut oil (an excellent and healthy saturated fat) are a great source of energy, they are high in calories but are easy to digest and do not produce as much acid when being metabolized. Eat several avocados per day if you can. Its best not to cook with olive oil ideally use extra virgin coconut oil as it tolerates high temperatures without oxidizing. But use olive oil until you get hold of some good coconut oil. Steam fry the veg first and then add oil towards the end.

The media says organic food is no more nutritious? Much press saying organic is no more nutritious. This is a total diversion as the reason why organic is best is nothing to do with nutrient content but instead is about avoiding pesticides.

Am I right in thinking that dietary choices should also be aligned to your blood group? The ‘blood-type diet’ refers to the idea that all human life started in Africa then, as food supplies were running low we spread out across the world. As we migrated we had to eat different food according to what was available in different regions and our bodies became hardwired to be compatible with specific foods. For instance O-types (the original hunters of Africa) should eat meat but avoid grains (as O-types were into hunting and never cultivated grains), whereas people in Asia are suited to lots of grains (they pioneered grain farming) but not dairy. If you eat the wrong foods, according to this theory, then it causes an allergic reaction and the blood turns more clumpy. In theory its an interesting concept and there may be some element of truth in the concept but in practice it doesn’t work. For instance, I’m O-type and am supposed to eat meat and avoid avocados; I eat loads of avo's and no meat in my diet at all and am very fit and healthy. One thing that does ring true is to avoid grains as my body doesn’t thrive on most grains. The author, Peter D'amo says avocados will make type-O blood clumpy, but i test my own blood using a microscope and never have clumpy blood from avocados. Stu Mittelman the well known marathon runner was using the O-type approach when running from east to west coast of USA, he started burning out so adopted the greens and avo's approach - he was tested by doctors and was healthier at the end of the race than he was at the beginning and also was the only person to finish the race. He talks about blood type in his book 'slow burn'.


Is there any evidence that people live longer on this diet?“Its all very confusing, I know a guy who is in his 80's and he eats really unhealthy but he is healthy. He is also a heavy smoker”

Firstly, there are many people who do get sick and so for those who do develop a terminal disease, this diet has proved to be able to restore health.

But in general its difficult to answer the question of longevity for the average person as the ‘pH Miracle diet’ was only created in the past 20-30 years. But, there is much to suggest that this way of eating will extend life or at the very least will improve quality of life. I trained with Dr Young and the last time I checked, his bone density was still increasing well into his 50's and that's a pretty good sign this approach works as bone density normally peaks at age 30. This diet is adapted for the modern world and was created to meet the needs of people today. It takes into account the corruption of specific foods in modern food production and is designed to compensate for the acidic world we now live in. In the old days meat was not poisoned, dairy was raw and livestock Pasture fed, also for the old generation, genetics had not been damaged by antibiotics and atmospheric radiation so these oldies who smoke and drink tend to have very strong constitution. People born after WW2 were more likely to be formula fed and subjected to radiation, pesticides, vaccines, antibiotics etc – and are generally weaker. The only reason we are living longer is improved sanitation plus other factors. So, the pH balance helps to compensate for all the challenges we are up against.

To be honest I’m feeling great now and that’s what’s important to me. We all know someone who smokes etc and lives to an old age. But maybe we need to re evaluate our definition of health? Its one thing to survive, and not get cancer but it is quite another thing to thrive and be full of energy. I have lots of energy for physical activity, never ever get ill and haven’t had a doctor for over 8 years now.

Serious longevity (over 120 yrs) is not likely in this day and age (IMO) but this approach is the best way to stay on an even keel and upward trend.


Is it possible to be too alkaline?“Surely you want to get your body neutral not too acidic or alkaline?”

Yes, the blood is almost neutral (pH 7.365) – but the biochemistry is such that it is very easy to become too acidic. People assume you need to eat 50/50 for balance, but the pH scale moves in increments of 10, so a cup of coffee is 1000 x more acidic than blood. Plus it takes 20 parts alkalinity to buffer one part acid in the body. Our diet should really be 80-90% high alkaline forming foods and 10-20% mild acid foods. Most people eat 90% high acid food and don't drink enough water to flush out acids.
It is practically impossible to become too alkaline (when the blood pH is too alkaline it is because the body is dumping alkaline minerals into the blood to compensate, but reflects systemic acidity). Even if you were eating only alkaline forming foods, the body is constantly producing acids as a waste product of healthy metabolism.

Urine/saliva pH testing is a good method of monitoring body pH.


Do animals need alkalinity?
I have heard of animals being extremely healthy on vegetarian diet, but they need lots and lots of good fats. Dr Young who compiled all this alkaline information, works with pets as well as humans, and creates special diets for lions, panthers etc. In the wild, when killing prey, these animals eat the intestines first as the intestines are full of alklaine grasses which they require for alkalinity. Celebrities keep these animals domestically and they often get sick due to acidity, so Dr Young feeds them greens to reverse cancer, diabetes etc in these animals. So it is good to feed your pet at least some broccoli and green vegetables.
Carnivores have a shorter intestine and higher acid levels designed for eating meat and processing it quickly (before it rots, as it does in the long meandering human intestinal tract) - but animals can also eat vegetables too.

pH testing says fruit and cider vinegar are alkaline?The traditional method of testing pH is flawed. They take the food and incinerate it and then test the ‘for mineral content. Fruit may be high in alkaline minerals as revealed by the ash method, but it is also, very high in sugar. Sugar acidifies the body, not least because it is like rocket fuel for yeast/candidia. But, with the ash method, all the sugar is burned and so this not taken into account.


Lemons:
Lemons have an acidic pH, but the acids are very volatile and as soon as you eat/drink the acids vanish as they are metabolised and you are left with lots of available oxygen (1/3 available oxygen) and also alkalizing minerals.


What ratio of food?The general rule of thumb is to eat lots of fresh whole food. It is generally advisable to change one thing at a time; however, if you have a significant health challenge, or if you feel you want to boost your energy levels quickly, it may be wise to go 100% alkaline for a few weeks or longer – that is, to eliminate all acidic foods and even temporarily eliminate the healthy grains/sugars and starchy vegetables which can still add fuel to an existing yeast infestation. Once balance has been restored, Dr Young’s recommendation is to aim for the 80/20 ratio – that is 80% high alkaline food and 20% mildly acid forming food. In the early stages of the process there may be some initial detox symptoms, but this should be viewed as a positive thing, as they usually pass quickly. The more you move the toxins the better you will feel. All avenues for eliminating acids need to be utilized, and this is achieved by improved hydration and digestion to move acids out via the bowels – pee lots. Sweating is another important component, as this allows acids to exit via the skin which is the largest elimination organ.




Do we need supplements?Nutritional supplements will help compensate for any possible dietary shortfalls. The world may be full of immune suppressing ‘toxins’ and ‘poisons’ but nutritional supplements can give extra protection against these threats and assist your body in eliminating and neutralizing harmful pollutants. Specific nutrients have shown to be highly effective against everything from heavy metals to yeast and their waste products (mycotoxins). Supplementing on a daily basis can top up your defences and provide constant protection from dietary, environmental and emotional stresses.

Bear in mind that even the best food these days is not great. Due to intensive farming methods, most topsoil is dead and it is not possible to get all the minerals you need from food alone. Pollution and stress depletes the body of nutrients too. I swear by supplements - though i would say at least 95% of what is on the market is total JUNK. The only supplements I really take are food based and I really get lots of benefit from using them - especially for exercise. Wheatgrass is the only vegetable which can absorb every single mineral and trace mineral from the soil I have been using wheatgrass grown in fantastic soil for over 8 years, almost every single day, tons of the stuff and you can feel it working.

A healthy diet alone may be fine for maintaining health - but for many people a healthy diet is not enough for restoring health if they have accumulated year’s worth of deficiencies. If someone has been on drugs and junk food for 20 yrs (like i was) then supplements can be very helpful.



How much protein ?The truth is that when you have a good body pH and a healthy small intestine you will only need a relatively small amount of protein per day. About 90% of blood cells are recycled in a healthy alkaline environment and so your protein requirement will actually be very low. But, most people are more acidic and nutrients get spent instead of recycled, so you need to make sure you have enough protein in your diet. Meat does have a high protein content but its not very bio-available. Also the cooking process reduces the usable protein of anything by at least 50%. You need protein from a variety of source; lentils, beans, nuts, seeds, fish and also leafy greens. Wheatgrass contains 4 x more protein that meat. Also, if you crave protein then you need to address your omega 3&6 levels as lack of good fats will trigger protein cravings.





Why do I need to soak Nuts?Both nuts and seeds contain chemicals which are designed to keep them in a dormant state until the rainy season. Eating raw nuts and seeds really stresses digestion as your body tries to digest something un digestible and has to get past the chemicals. Soaking them in water tricks the nut into thinking it is planted in soil and that the rainy season has arrived so they release all their chemicals. So soak almonds in fridge, throw away soak water - as that’s where these chemicals/substances are released and top up with fresh water if you want to store some almonds in fridge ie if you don’t eat them all. Soak water is good for houseplants btw. 1 part almonds to 3 parts water when soaking.. Almond skins are a bit poisonous hence peeling. Its better in the long run to soak whenever poss

Which nuts and seeds are good to eat?The main problem here is extraction process and storage methods. In the UK I tend to avoid sunflower and pumpkin seeds and hazel, brazil, macadamia and pine nuts. Pumpkin and sunflower seeds look a bit bad to my eye. Hazel and brazil nuts often are missing big patches of their protective brown skin and have oxidized/turned rancid (the oil in nuts and seeds are vulnerable to oxidization from heat, air and light). As macadamia and pine nuts are shelled they become totally exposed to the air and are fully oxidized (they should be white but have a distinct yellow tinge instead). Avoid all peanuts and cashews as they are fully contaminated with very poisonous aspergillus fungus. Walnuts and pecans are okay I guess (even though they are halved so part of the inner core of the nut is exposed to the air) but as with all nuts and seeds, you need to throw away any which are chipped or broken. Also avoid hulled seeds ie hulled hemp and sesame.

I go for hemp, flax, sesame and hand sorted almonds.






Is soy good or bad?For me the jury is out on soy products. Personally I think its okay in moderation, and soy milk is better than dairy. Sprouted soy is brilliant though. Always avoid GM soy as this will make you fat and mess up your hormones. Also, with many soy products they use a chemical solvent called hexane to extract the soy. This is especially true with soy protein which should be avoided.


Is cider Vinegar good?If one's colon is clogged full of undigested proteins then drinking vinegar will burn away this impacted rubbish/congestion so that the colon can 'breathe' a little better and you get a perceived benefit. My dad used cider vinegar for his arthritis (which, is largely caused by acid congestion in the colon which leads to acid deposits elsewhere) and he did get a short term benefit. But, if you continue to use it without addressing the root of the problem, you just end up burning healthy tissue with acidic vinegar. Also vinegar is proton saturated and pulls energy (electrons) from the body. Plus vinegar is a product of fermentation so should be avoided. Magnesium oxide is a perfect way to cleanse to colon of debris and you get the same benefit as vinegar plus loads of other benefits (alkalinity, electrons, oxygen) and without the damage caused by the vinegar. They say vinegar is high in potassium but avocados are a great source of potassium and they are alkaline forming and electron rich. Basically there are much better ways to cleanse the colon.


Is ‘Braggs amino acids’ a good soy sauce substitute?It is slightly acidic. It may be much less acidic then soy sauce and vinegar but contrary to some claims it is not alkalizing. This can be used as a substitute for soy sauce but you still need to use it in moderation. Now that you know salt is good for you, you can use salt for flavour where possible - try a dressing made with salt, lemon, cold pressed oil.

Nutritional yeast’It is touted as a nutritious product because of vitamin B 12 levels (a hard to find vitamin) but when your gut is healthy, your intestinal flora will produce plenty of B-vitamins, including B 12. It is best to avoid all forms of yeast including marmite and nutritional yeast.



Is sodium bicarbonate the same as bicarbonate of soda that you use for baking etc?I have heard that baking soda is tainted with aluminium in the manufacturing process - or maybe there are anti-caking ingredients added. Best to go for pharmaceutical grade (BP Grade) bicarb of soda.But essentially the 2 are the same in function - but purity is the issue. Boots the chemists don't sell it for some reason so try a Lloyds pharmacy or any independent one.

What is all the fuss about antioxidants?We need a mix of pro-oxidants (essential fatty acids etc) and anti oxidants.
Pro oxidants are like fire starters or kindling, and ignite metabolism or our 'fire of life'. Some pro oxidants are better than others. Raw plant fats burn clean and steady, wheras cooked fats or sugars burn messy and hot. In the same way that a fire produces sparks as a result of combustion, when we burn or metabolise food, free radicals will be produced. Anti oxidants stop these free radicals from burning/damaging tissue in the same way that a fireguard or screen stops sparks from burning the livingroom carpet. So, you need a strong 'fire of life' or digestive fire/metabolism, but it needs to be a slow burn. You wouldnt pour jet fuel on your log fire at home, and in the same way you should avoid sugar.

Generally alkaline foods will create a strong fire which burns slow and powerfully. And an alklaine diet will also provide an abundance of anti oxidants too. So, it ticks all the boxes.



What are the other main factors required for pH balance and health?How you approach this is very important. If you really feel you want to just run with the alkalizing thing then go for it but generally its best to change slowly. It takes time and energy to change lifelong habits without causing discomfort and stress. Don’t place unrealistic expectations on yourself about how quickly you should be progressing. Yes it is good to have goals and targets but its unrealistic to think it will be easy or that you won’t slip up at some stage. Remind yourself that if you fall off the wagon it is not a step backwards but that its just a smaller step forwards than usual. Just drink more water and pick yourself up and carry on. Focus on eating more vegetables instead of focussing on what you can’t or shouldn’t eat. As long as you are eating more vegetables each day then this counts as progress. So just keep plodding along and you health will improve. Make small changes which last and eventually you will build new habits. Alkalizing or any health programme can be a trap too. I have seen many people (myself included in the beginning) become obsessed with alkalizing and fearful of anything 'acidic' and this fear or stress generates acid and also drains your energy. You could be on the perfect alkaline diet but that doesn’t guarantee health. Your physical health can only progress according to growth in other areas of your being. Imagine a triangle that represents your holistic health (Mind, body and spirit) and to improve your health you need all sides of the triangle to get larger. So, you need to grow the triangle but keep each side equal. If one side is larger than another the shape becomes imbalanced. I find my physical health has only been able to progress according to spiritual and emotional development and this is something which can’t be forced. If you try to force the alkalizing process and focus on diet alone, you may get rid of your symptom but life will just slingshot you back to where you were before. You can’t fully alkalize your body whilst maintaining acidic thoughts such as anger and worry. You must work to raise you vibration to resonate with the levels of light involved in a high pH, high electron diet as otherwise there will be a conflict. That said, eating high vibration food will lift your mood and make you feel better and will make it easier to improve your attitude and choose better thoughts. Dietary change can become a form of control, a bit like anorexia. So gently plod along at your own rate.

Although the science clearly shows that acidity is a problem and that the modern food chain is disturbed, human spirit, or whatever you want to call it, needs to be taken into account. We also have the capacity to transmute toxins and our bodies are designed to withstand our spiritual unfolding, so our bodies can take a lot of abuse.


Temperature:Drink warm water – cold water shuts digestion down and has a cumulative effect in making the body cold.
Wear thermals and warm clothes otherwise you will be wanting to eat ‘warming food’ all the time.

gnosis_dub
25-06-2011, 05:36 PM
Yeah, ACV is controversial stuff. It is a bit harsh with the acetic & malic acids in it. And Dr. Young calls these acids poison.

IMO, Apple Cider Vinegar, the good stuff (from organic apples) is great! It is one of the best detoxifiers for you. It eliminates unwanted fats and calcium deposits. It contains an array of valuable minerals, including Boron.

Here's a tip to reduce the acidity : I made this tonic today -
In a glass of water, put a 1/2 tsp of sodium bicarbonate in a tbsp of AVC. Sprinkle in some cayenne pepper and cloves or nutmeg. This is very alkaline and the cayenne will allow this formula to flow to the heart. The cloves and nutmeg will kill off parasites (nutmeg is slightly toxic, so use just a pinch).

Here's a good website sharing people's opinions of ACV from people using it:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Healing_Power_of_Apple_Cider_Vinegar

I would recommend to use it no more than every other day, since it's powerful stuff.

hadabusa
25-06-2011, 07:32 PM
domathy, you never say alkalize your stomach, which id agree with.

but alkalizing the blood is not so smart imo.

scottishryan
25-06-2011, 07:35 PM
domathy, you never say alkalize your stomach, which id agree with.

but alkalizing the blood is not so smart imo.

You on a alternative attack stance tonight?

scottishryan
25-06-2011, 07:49 PM
What do you think of this latest story to appear on the world stage Domathy?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=173690

leon11
25-06-2011, 07:51 PM
domathy, you never say alkalize your stomach, which id agree with.

but alkalizing the blood is not so smart imo.

how come hadabusa?

domathy
25-06-2011, 08:34 PM
domathy, you never say alkalize your stomach, which id agree with.

but alkalizing the blood is not so smart imo.

Its a bit hard to not alklaize the stomach when drinking bicarb. Here's why you dont need to worry about high stomach pH
too much http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=169478

The pH of the blood never fluctuates unless you are very unwell. It has a constant pH of 7.365, regardless of how much alklaine food and drink you consume.

domathy
25-06-2011, 08:41 PM
Yeah, ACV is controversial stuff. It is a bit harsh with the acetic & malic acids in it. And Dr. Young calls these acids poison.

IMO, Apple Cider Vinegar, the good stuff (from organic apples) is great! It is one of the best detoxifiers for you. It eliminates unwanted fats and calcium deposits. It contains an array of valuable minerals, including Boron.

Here's a tip to reduce the acidity : I made this tonic today -
In a glass of water, put a 1/2 tsp of sodium bicarbonate in a tbsp of AVC. Sprinkle in some cayenne pepper and cloves or nutmeg. This is very alkaline and the cayenne will allow this formula to flow to the heart. The cloves and nutmeg will kill off parasites (nutmeg is slightly toxic, so use just a pinch).

Here's a good website sharing people's opinions of ACV from people using it:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Healing_Power_of_Apple_Cider_Vinegar

I would recommend to use it no more than every other day, since it's powerful stuff.

I wont knock ACV as I dont know enough about it. Dr Youngs approach covers most bases (pun not actually intended) but there are other very effective tonics and remedies. Adding bicarb is a good idea. I would like to see the pH valuse and ORP before making my mind up. I just tend to stick with dr youngs protocols as it gets to the root of peoples probs instead of treating symptoms. But, as a short term solution, ACV might be a valid option in the right context.

What do you think of this latest story to appear on the world stage Domathy?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=173690

Tullio Simoncini is awesome and has done amazing work with bicarb. I dont know the facts here so i cant comment. Either he was set up or he made a mistake. Or, it was just a rare negative reaction to his treatment. In either case, its okay for big pharma to poison main and kill in industrial numbers, but they will take any excuse to cricify an alternative practitioner who is threatening the cancer industry.

scottishryan
25-06-2011, 08:47 PM
In either case, its okay for big pharma to poison main and kill in industrial numbers, but they will take any excuse to cricify an alternative practitioner who is threatening the cancer industry.

*Insert Clapping Smile Here* :D:D

If you check out the sticky threads in this section, there is an article saying 75% of practitioners would not have chemotherapy due to its massive failure rate. Speaks for itself, lets see if the critics take that into consideration while they now start the witch trials in the above-mentioned thread I quoted to you ;)

domathy
25-06-2011, 09:31 PM
*Insert Clapping Smile Here* :D:D

If you check out the sticky threads in this section, there is an article saying 75% of practitioners would not have chemotherapy due to its massive failure rate. Speaks for itself, lets see if the critics take that into consideration while they now start the witch trials in the above-mentioned thread I quoted to you ;)

haha. :D yeah, its funny how many politicians refuse to let their kids be vaccinated too :rolleyes:

scottishryan
26-06-2011, 06:59 AM
Yup, do as I say and not as I do :D

domathy
26-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Het Scottishryan, how did you do on friday and last night?? :)

scottishryan
26-06-2011, 11:38 AM
:D I am glad you asked...not a drop :D

Friday was a breeze this week...even with an invite and "Go on, you know you want to" harassment for 20 mins.

Last night I did wobble at 6 ish but I refocussed and concentrated in how much better I am feeling lately with the changes in place. As sad as it sounds, I instead made a loaf of Spelt bread with a touch of organic wholemeal to use with soups in the next few days :D:D

In addition....I've managed to do some weights and gravity walker each night before bed :eek: I am taking each day as it comes but some major progress!!

I am drinking loads of green juice made with Spinach, cucumber, leafy spring greens, broccoli, carrot and apple to sweeten for my taste-buds. I am also taking 100ml of wheat-grass juice daily, sea kelp supplements and after each meal I drink a glass of water with Bicarb...especially if I have consumed anything that will cause acidic blood reaction :D

Not perfect but my only focus was to stop drinking alcohol after giving up Coffee a few weeks back and I seem to be progressing even if my ego tried to trip me up at times lol

scottishryan
26-06-2011, 11:42 AM
Oh In addition too.....I listen to audio books when I go to bed at night and I have one with Anthony Robbins and last nights one was about this very topic! He explains it so great and holds his hands up for advocating to much fruit in the past. He also has looked at Blood Samples via a doctor that proved scientifically that things improved ten fold by following a diet of more alkaline foods.

;)

lulushka8
26-06-2011, 01:36 PM
scottishryan
He explains it so great and holds his hands up for advocating to much fruit in the past. He also has looked at Blood Samples via a doctor that proved scientifically that things improved ten fold by following a diet of more alkaline foods.


yeah, fruit's not as good as people make out if you live on this planet, have eaten loads of junk, drunk bad water, been exposed to invisible toxins and have underlying health issues. i used to eat nothing but fruit and greens for many months thinking i was healthy, but i felt awful, had no energy, couldn't digest well, and swelled up. this ways much better. i'm hoping a bit of fruit now and again might be ok once my health is ok. i'm familiar with robbins, but i also like this book by gabriel cousens called spiritual nutrition, he advocates a similar diet on the whole, particularly if you're sick or toxic (most of us). generally low/unsweet fruit, vegetables, healthy fats and non-gluten/sprouted grains (you don't have to go raw). i reckon the alkalising supplements Dr Young advocates is just a step up from that.:)

scottishryan
26-06-2011, 01:49 PM
yeah, fruit's not as good as people make out if you live on this planet, have eaten loads of junk, drunk bad water, been exposed to invisible toxins and have any underlying health issues. i used to eat nothing but fruit and greens for many months thinking i was healthy, but i felt awful, had no energy, couldn't digest well, and swelled up. this ways much better. i'm hoping a bit of fruit now and again might be ok once my health is ok. i'm familiar with robbins, but i also like this book by gabriel cousens called spiritual nutrition, he advocates a similar diet on the whole, particularly if you're sick or toxic (most of us). generally low/unsweet fruit, vegetables, healthy fats and non-gluten/sprouted grains (you don't have to go raw). i reckon the alkalising supplements Dr Young advocates is just a step up from that.:)

Excellent Post!

Yeah I was ready to dive in full raw when this topic caught my eye....To be honest, I am still unsure why it spoke to me but it did. Sometimes something resonates and this whole Alkaline/Acidic approach seems to make perfect sense.

I am finding myself taking parts of all different approaches...IE Green Juices made fresh, increasing the amount of uncooked vegetables and some fruits but also allowing Organic Brown Basmati rice and experimenting with my love for Indian Cuisine by making my own curries with fresh produce and healthy ingredients. I suppose I am constantly tweaking till I hit the golden spot for my body...Loving the whole thing....actually starting to enjoy my bircab water too....If I drink it after I eat my main meal I feel my stomach actually digests better for some reason...hard to explain :D

lulushka8
26-06-2011, 02:04 PM
i know what you mean, its good you're taking so many steps forward, i think it's easier when you go slowly, i was macrobiotric for a few years before i went down the raw path, and then the fruit after that, so it seemed easy and natural for me as i was taking small steps. the ph diet (so far) has surprisingly been the easiest. avocados have always been my favourite food anyway and i reckon i was suffering from life-threatening avocado deprivation for a long time hence the trouble with all the fruit;), i love everything else thats advocated on the diet and it digests well esp with the alkaline water. the only hard bits avoiding the fruit bowl, i'm a sugar junkie.:mad:

knewt01
26-06-2011, 03:51 PM
Great posts everyone!

I know exactly what you're talking about when you say it feels like the bicarb is helping you digest better.

I have fallen off the wagon a bit lately, but the great thing about all this is that you can pick it right back up and start feeling better almost immediately. And most of it costs next to nothing, which is a big concern for me at the moment.

I can't really afford to be too choosy with my food currently, so I eat what I have at the time, acid or not. I do try and console myself with the fact that drinking the bicarb may at least be helping me to cancel some of that out, but the whole not being able to eat exclusively alkaline for a while has got me down recently, and I just gave up.

The results were pretty dramatic; have been suffering from chronic psoriasis on the hands and feet for years and for nearly three whole weeks, whilst persisting with just drinking the bicarb solution and not really changing what I ate, I had a two week period of no outbreaks whatsoever!

By the end of the second week, the skin on my hands was almost completely healed and I actually started wearing jewellery again. I had stopped as I don't like to draw attention to my hands if I can help it. All this just from drinking bicarb and doing a liver flush with Epsons. My attacks were every two to three days before this and when I stopped drinking, I was right back where I started within about a week :(

Will be back on it next week for sure! Keep posting your updates and maybe we can all help eachother out.

scottishryan
26-06-2011, 04:32 PM
i know what you mean, its good you're taking so many steps forward, i think it's easier when you go slowly, i was macrobiotric for a few years before i went down the raw path, and then the fruit after that, so it seemed easy and natural for me as i was taking small steps. the ph diet (so far) has surprisingly been the easiest. avocados have always been my favourite food anyway and i reckon i was suffering from life-threatening avocado bereavement for a long time hence the trouble with all the fruit;), i love everything else thats advocated on the diet and it digests well esp with the alkaline water. the only hard bits avoiding the fruit bowl, i'm a sugar junkie.:mad:

I am ashamed to say I have never tasted Avocado yet :o I have bought them twice now and never seem to get round to eating them before they go bad :D This next week for sure I need to make it my mission :p

knewt01:

One thing, do not stress over food and just do what you can do...I learnt that when losing weight! Its when I relaxed and began to love food again and accept my choices that changes happen....now the weight has gone I am looking at getting cleaned out and running properly from within but if I make small choices that are not entirely correct then its no big deal...large glass of bicarb water and a smile that I am walking a path and learning!

A saver for me is my home made soups....get all your veg in, organic garlic & Herb cubes, I put in spices (especially cayenne powder) and it lasts me two days and hits the spot.

If I can lose over 120lb, go vegetarian and then progress this far with my ups and downs then anyone can do it...especially like me with a smile on the face......

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/rcps-scotland/251124_1775818597857_1311118187_31630897_7679879_n .jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/rcps-scotland/RyanLatest.jpg

lulushka8
26-06-2011, 05:08 PM
wow that's amazing ryan, you're a whole different person now, those pics will encourage many, good for you.:)

scottishryan
26-06-2011, 05:42 PM
Yup, physically, mentally and spiritually :D Actually the last one is astonishing....I was a materialist sceptical goodness knows what and somehow my perception shifted when the weight did!! weird but good!

Thanks!!! :)

domathy
26-06-2011, 06:40 PM
:D I am glad you asked...not a drop :D

Friday was a breeze this week...even with an invite and "Go on, you know you want to" harassment for 20 mins.

I used to get that when the spliff was passed round. First few times are the hardest then just becomes habit. People soon get the message.

Last night I did wobble at 6 ish but I refocussed and concentrated in how much better I am feeling lately with the changes in place. As sad as it sounds, I instead made a loaf of Spelt bread with a touch of organic wholemeal to use with soups in the next few days :D:D

Nothing like a bit of baking to quell the demons :)

In addition....I've managed to do some weights and gravity walker each night before bed :eek: I am taking each day as it comes but some major progress!!

I'll do a thread on rebounding soon, that would be a good idea too.

I am drinking loads of green juice made with Spinach, cucumber, leafy spring greens, broccoli, carrot and apple to sweeten for my taste-buds. I am also taking 100ml of wheat-grass juice daily, sea kelp supplements and after each meal I drink a glass of water with Bicarb...especially if I have consumed anything that will cause acidic blood reaction :D

Not perfect but my only focus was to stop drinking alcohol after giving up Coffee a few weeks back and I seem to be progressing even if my ego tried to trip me up at times lol

Sounds like youre on a roll. The efforts your'e making in other areas will probably be distracting you from the booze as its giving you a focus.

domathy
26-06-2011, 06:47 PM
Oh In addition too.....I listen to audio books when I go to bed at night and I have one with Anthony Robbins and last nights one was about this very topic! He explains it so great and holds his hands up for advocating to much fruit in the past. He also has looked at Blood Samples via a doctor that proved scientifically that things improved ten fold by following a diet of more alkaline foods.

;)

Tony Robbins was burned out (sugar from fruit , lactic acid from sugar based exercise, and adrenaline from his work) so he went for blood work with Dr Young (who i trained to do blood analysis with and who pioneered all this alklaizing info). Dr young sorted him out though. Tony robbins doesnt give credit now as they had a bust up. Robbins was desperate to buy the rights to dr youngs alkalizing green drink but dr young said no (possible a very regrettable mistake - but thats another story). So robbins tried (and failed) to mimic the ionization process and made his own crappy version. Now robbins references other researchers instead of young - thought you can still find interviews online between the two of them.
But robbins trained with young, and he and others like David Wolfe and Gabriel Cousens have admitted they were mistaken to advocate so much fruit.

domathy
26-06-2011, 06:53 PM
scottishryan


yeah, fruit's not as good as people make out if you live on this planet, have eaten loads of junk, drunk bad water, been exposed to invisible toxins and have underlying health issues. i used to eat nothing but fruit and greens for many months thinking i was healthy, but i felt awful, had no energy, couldn't digest well, and swelled up. this ways much better. i'm hoping a bit of fruit now and again might be ok once my health is ok. i'm familiar with robbins, but i also like this book by gabriel cousens called spiritual nutrition, he advocates a similar diet on the whole, particularly if you're sick or toxic (most of us). generally low/unsweet fruit, vegetables, healthy fats and non-gluten/sprouted grains (you don't have to go raw). i reckon the alkalising supplements Dr Young advocates is just a step up from that.:)

Fruit is hybridised and has more sugar and acid than it would in nature.
Im better with chocolate than fruit - fruit makes me feel like you said.
Berries and fruit in season is good for cleansing and once any yeast issues are controlled. Cousens is really good. Conscious eating is a great book, and 'the rainbow green live food cuisine' is also great but is in alignment with the alklaizing principles and focuses on greens and fats. I love his books as they link food to our spiritual development and vibration.

i know what you mean, its good you're taking so many steps forward, i think it's easier when you go slowly, i was macrobiotric for a few years before i went down the raw path, and then the fruit after that, so it seemed easy and natural for me as i was taking small steps. the ph diet (so far) has surprisingly been the easiest. avocados have always been my favourite food anyway and i reckon i was suffering from life-threatening avocado deprivation for a long time hence the trouble with all the fruit;), i love everything else thats advocated on the diet and it digests well esp with the alkaline water. the only hard bits avoiding the fruit bowl, i'm a sugar junkie.:mad:


Im a sugar junkie too. But, the oils and fats really help with blood sugar control.

domathy
26-06-2011, 06:56 PM
Excellent Post!

Yeah I was ready to dive in full raw when this topic caught my eye....To be honest, I am still unsure why it spoke to me but it did. Sometimes something resonates and this whole Alkaline/Acidic approach seems to make perfect sense.

I am finding myself taking parts of all different approaches...IE Green Juices made fresh, increasing the amount of uncooked vegetables and some fruits but also allowing Organic Brown Basmati rice and experimenting with my love for Indian Cuisine by making my own curries with fresh produce and healthy ingredients. I suppose I am constantly tweaking till I hit the golden spot for my body...Loving the whole thing....actually starting to enjoy my bircab water too....If I drink it after I eat my main meal I feel my stomach actually digests better for some reason...hard to explain :D

Exactly! :D

domathy
26-06-2011, 07:01 PM
Great posts everyone!

I know exactly what you're talking about when you say it feels like the bicarb is helping you digest better.

I have fallen off the wagon a bit lately, but the great thing about all this is that you can pick it right back up and start feeling better almost immediately. And most of it costs next to nothing, which is a big concern for me at the moment.

I can't really afford to be too choosy with my food currently, so I eat what I have at the time, acid or not. I do try and console myself with the fact that drinking the bicarb may at least be helping me to cancel some of that out, but the whole not being able to eat exclusively alkaline for a while has got me down recently, and I just gave up.

The results were pretty dramatic; have been suffering from chronic psoriasis on the hands and feet for years and for nearly three whole weeks, whilst persisting with just drinking the bicarb solution and not really changing what I ate, I had a two week period of no outbreaks whatsoever!

By the end of the second week, the skin on my hands was almost completely healed and I actually started wearing jewellery again. I had stopped as I don't like to draw attention to my hands if I can help it. All this just from drinking bicarb and doing a liver flush with Epsons. My attacks were every two to three days before this and when I stopped drinking, I was right back where I started within about a week :(

Will be back on it next week for sure! Keep posting your updates and maybe we can all help eachother out.

Just keep going and do your best. MMS is great for psoriasis but its awesome the results youv'e had already. Its just a matter of time till the alklaizers take over the world and then youll get all the shit you need for freeee :D
Thank any food you eat and your body will be able to transmute any acid much easier.

domathy
26-06-2011, 07:03 PM
i am ashamed to say i have never tasted avocado yet :o i have bought them twice now and never seem to get round to eating them before they go bad :d this next week for sure i need to make it my mission :p

store them in the fridge once they are ripe and they will last longer.

knewt01:

One thing, do not stress over food and just do what you can do...i learnt that when losing weight! Its when i relaxed and began to love food again and accept my choices that changes happen....now the weight has gone i am looking at getting cleaned out and running properly from within but if i make small choices that are not entirely correct then its no big deal...large glass of bicarb water and a smile that i am walking a path and learning!

A saver for me is my home made soups....get all your veg in, organic garlic & herb cubes, i put in spices (especially cayenne powder) and it lasts me two days and hits the spot.

If i can lose over 120lb, go vegetarian and then progress this far with my ups and downs then anyone can do it...especially like me with a smile on the face......

great post! What an inspiraton :d

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/rcps-scotland/251124_1775818597857_1311118187_31630897_7679879_n .jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/rcps-scotland/ryanlatest.jpg


wow :d

scottishryan
26-06-2011, 07:20 PM
Tony Robbins was burned out (sugar from fruit , lactic acid from sugar based exercise, and adrenaline from his work) so he went for blood work with Dr Young (who i trained to do blood analysis with and who pioneered all this alklaizing info). Dr young sorted him out though. Tony robbins doesnt give credit now as they had a bust up. Robbins was desperate to buy the rights to dr youngs alkalizing green drink but dr young said no (possible a very regrettable mistake - but thats another story). So robbins tried (and failed) to mimic the ionization process and made his own crappy version. Now robbins references other researchers instead of young - thought you can still find interviews online between the two of them.
But robbins trained with young, and he and others like David Wolfe and Gabriel Cousens have admitted they were mistaken to advocate so much fruit.

I noticed that on the audio book, he did mention Young but gave more kudos to someone else (forgot name). He said everything you say in this thread!

My choice for night time listening while exercising and going to sleep is usually more in line with Dr Wayne Dyer, Tao, Vedas or even Gregg Braden etc but after seeing Tony (who I briefly heard about) in the following videos I was more interested in him.....

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

By the way, all parts are on youtube for those wanting to see it all.

Think you are right about the Alcohol...good point too is..I am bouncing out of bed EARLY now :D

I do not eat great deals of fruit and I am goign to keep it that way...will still add my Apples to my green juice though for natural sweetness till I get more in the groove :D

hypnoticspectre
26-06-2011, 08:47 PM
Ive been looking into supplements to help me with digestion and found these:

Udo's Choice Super 8 High Potency Probiotic

# Formulated to help support and maintain digestive health.
# Can help maintain and support urinary tract health.
# 30 billion viable/active cells

Expensive like, but cutting out drink and drugs helps alot, yes finally starting to grow up and its scary :eek:

Does anyone know if this kind of stuff does what it says on the label?

knewt01
26-06-2011, 09:02 PM
I am ashamed to say I have never tasted Avocado yet :o I have bought them twice now and never seem to get round to eating them before they go bad :D This next week for sure I need to make it my mission :p

knewt01:

One thing, do not stress over food and just do what you can do...I learnt that when losing weight! Its when I relaxed and began to love food again and accept my choices that changes happen....now the weight has gone I am looking at getting cleaned out and running properly from within but if I make small choices that are not entirely correct then its no big deal...large glass of bicarb water and a smile that I am walking a path and learning!

A saver for me is my home made soups....get all your veg in, organic garlic & Herb cubes, I put in spices (especially cayenne powder) and it lasts me two days and hits the spot.

If I can lose over 120lb, go vegetarian and then progress this far with my ups and downs then anyone can do it...especially like me with a smile on the face......


Thanks for the advice scottishryan - will do.

Those results are fantastic!! Thanks for sharing.

I think the thing that gets me at the moment is not having much of a choice in the first place. But, I have stacks of bicarb and so will just get right back on it.

Have you done a thread about your weightloss already? You look completely different in your pics. It must be incredibly fulfilling to look back at the before and after shots. Seriously, huge pat on the back to you.

I have zilch willpower (see above post) :(

And psoriasis :(:(

And no money :(:(:(

PITY ME!!! :D

scottishryan
27-06-2011, 05:54 AM
Thanks knewt01! :):)

I've not started a thread but did write a 20 odd page free ebook on how I done it. No will power and the ability to eat the same foods...its not what you eat but the habits around food and thinking!

I lost all my weight on Macaroni Cheese, Garlic bread, Baked potatoes and even eating takeaway food on many occasion. You need a massive open mind and relaxation with food and the process...I was sceptical to start with as I had been on every single diet but when I stopped the insanity of dieting I lost the weight....What tends to happen is, when you go the Intuitive way of losing weight (Listening to body signals instead of counting stuff external) you then naturally progress to healthy foods and thus end up on great threads like this!

Here is a video of my early progression when I was about 70 odd pounds down..

Weight Loss In Pics - 70+lbs - YouTube

Here is the free ebook hosted on my daughter site....

http://theillusion.org.uk/?page_id=346

Ive tried now and then on various threads to help people who have asked about weight loss but they all tend to ignore it and I am betting they have the mental thinking that it has to be hard or does not work or you need to buy books as free ones are rubbish :rolleyes:

A few are still stuck in the calories in and out paradigm too and through my own experience and testing, the whole train of thought is utter rubbish. Sorry :o

On that note...I watched a video by Dr Young where he said the body does not work on calories but on energy(how alive it is with stored power hz??) levels from the food :D now that makes a ton more sense but some will just not open to the idea....I think I have seen it work for myself and it would cure a great puzzle for me....How I could eat and drink a combination of 4000 calories for 4 days in a row and still lose 2lb.......Fluid does not turn calorie content to fat.....Christ I have drank enough beer through my weight-loss to see that :p

knewt01
27-06-2011, 06:43 AM
Thanks knewt01! :):)

I've not started a thread but did write a 20 odd page free ebook on how I done it. No will power and the ability to eat the same foods...its not what you eat but the habits around food and thinking!

I lost all my weight on Macaroni Cheese, Garlic bread, Baked potatoes and even eating takeaway food on many occasion. You need a massive open mind and relaxation with food and the process...I was sceptical to start with as I had been on every single diet but when I stopped the insanity of dieting I lost the weight....What tends to happen is, when you go the Intuitive way of losing weight (Listening to body signals instead of counting stuff external) you then naturally progress to healthy foods and thus end up on great threads like this!

Here is a video of my early progression when I was about 70 odd pounds down..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKWkMtuJipw

Here is the free ebook hosted on my daughter site....

http://theillusion.org.uk/?page_id=346

Ive tried now and then on various threads to help people who have asked about weight loss but they all tend to ignore it and I am betting they have the mental thinking that it has to be hard or does not work or you need to buy books as free ones are rubbish :rolleyes:

A few are still stuck in the calories in and out paradigm too and through my own experience and testing, the whole train of thought is utter rubbish. Sorry :o

On that note...I watched a video by Dr Young where he said the body does not work on calories but on energy(how alive it is with stored power hz??) levels from the food :D now that makes a ton more sense but some will just not open to the idea....I think I have seen it work for myself and it would cure a great puzzle for me....How I could eat and drink a combination of 4000 calories for 4 days in a row and still lose 2lb.......Fluid does not turn calorie content to fat.....Christ I have drank enough beer through my weight-loss to see that :p

Wow! That looks great - thanks for sharing.

This is kind of how I view foods now anyway, after years of struggling. Particularly as I don't have mega-funds right now, I pretty much take what I can get.

I'm still overweight, but increasingly I'm beginning to wonder who actually decided I was? I suppose until I really do, I will stay the same size, but then what kind of mental journey needs to take place for that transformation to begin from within?

It's all very interesting to me. I was only telling someone the other day it's not what you eat but how much. This person used to get stoned rather a lot but has completely given up now.

I mentioned that I noticed he ate twice as much as usual when he used to smoke and that I reckoned the smoking actually did something to the "full" mechanism you talk about, which resulted in him not really listening to his body signals, hence weight issues. He vehemently denies this however!

I'm off to study your e-book. Thanks.

Where's yours, Dom? :p

EDIT: Read it and it's very good. A lot of it I actually do already but never realised. I think the darstadly TV is my biggest downfall but I got rid of that last year.

I did start thinking about other causes of psoriasis a while back and came across this spiritualist site where they detailed some emotional causes for illnesses. Makes perfect sense to me but I conveniently read it and forgot it!

I think it said something like people experiencing psoriasis have some issues around fear (that was definitely me until quite recently) and may have experienced something like domestic violence between parents when younger, which can bring this on even years later. This is very true in my case but if this is the cause, I haven't been able to figure out how to get rid of it yet!

Will have to try and find it again as some of the explanations were quite interesting and definitely in sync with "you become what you think" line of thinking.

Thanks again and sorry for hijacking thread, Dom.

scottishryan
27-06-2011, 07:06 AM
Wow! That looks great - thanks for sharing.

This is kind of how I view foods now anyway, after years of struggling. Particularly as I don't have mega-funds right now, I pretty much take what I can get.

I'm still overweight, but increasingly I'm beginning to wonder who actually decided I was? I suppose until I really do, I will stay the same size, but then what kind of mental journey needs to take place for that transformation to begin from within?

It's all very interesting to me. I was only telling someone the other day it's not what you eat but how much. This person used to get stoned rather a lot but has completely given up now.

I mentioned that I noticed he ate twice as much as usual when he used to smoke and that I reckoned the smoking actually did something to the "full" mechanism you talk about, which resulted in him not really listening to his body signals, hence weight issues. He vehemently denies this however!

I'm off to study your e-book. Thanks.

Where's yours, Dom? :p

My mental realisation was firstly, My body will know its ideal weight and my mind knows only what is has been conditioned to think is correct. After this it was a realisation that when I need to pee, I go and I do not need the authority figures to give me a step by step on how not to piss myself :D Then we have Diets that are worth big bucks to big companies.....

I then thought, OK I will eat only the foods I love but I will really really enjoy them by having the best quality, even if small in size and will really take my time and enjoy the experience (all in book)....once I got going my whole mental mood lifted and it was like freedom from the food police and inner negative self talk.....I was sceptical but in the first week I dropped 10lb and then kept away from the scale and kept going....next thing I knew...I was back near my teenager weight and had never restricted anything from fav foods to alcohol! It was not the healthiest diet mind you but it was for what I needed to do....lose weight in a good enjoyable way and remove massive excess weight.....near the end I had an awakening on how the world works and had spiritual realisations where I went from a sceptic (who even appeared on Most Haunted as one ;) ) to realisation that we are more than we have been led to believe. I had personal experiences that blew my mind and sine I have never been the same...a sponge for research and study

A rather plump sceptical and nervous me.......

Ryan O'Neill on MH - YouTube

God how I have changed physically, mentally and spiritually...night and day!

Ok I am waaaayyyy of topic...Sorry Domathy :D

scottishryan
27-06-2011, 08:33 AM
Some video I am finding on the topic! :)

The pH Miracle for Weight Loss - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn-oobKdTE4

Dr. Robert Young speaks about Alkaline Water & LIFE Ionizers - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwSCFyTUXXY&feature=related

domathy
27-06-2011, 12:13 PM
Ive been looking into supplements to help me with digestion and found these:

Udo's Choice Super 8 High Potency Probiotic

# Formulated to help support and maintain digestive health.
# Can help maintain and support urinary tract health.
# 30 billion viable/active cells

Expensive like, but cutting out drink and drugs helps alot, yes finally starting to grow up and its scary :eek:

Does anyone know if this kind of stuff does what it says on the label?


I know. Growing up is scary :eek: :D

Dont bother with probiotics. ACIDophillus (did you spot the word acid :))
is not good in the long run as it has a very acidic pH. There was a great study on intestinal flora which says the best way to repopulate the gut is by eating lots of green foods as this creates the 'fertile soil' required for the good bugs to grow back. So, way better to invest in some good greens like Dr Young's 'Doc Broc greens' or an even better one with i use.

Udo's is a brand but their best product is Udo's oil. The oil is massivley popular and now they trade off the brand name but the probiotics and greens arent that great tbh.

Here's what dr young says about probiotics:
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2009/03/dangers-of-some-common-digestive.html

jconnar
27-06-2011, 12:16 PM
Mmmmm just drank the juice of 5 lemons.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s3gyGPCsFOw/TElVLb1_onI/AAAAAAAAALM/lEc4rBy4uOE/s1600/lemons-300x297.jpg

domathy
27-06-2011, 12:31 PM
Here is a video of my early progression when I was about 70 odd pounds down..


(you need to edit your post as the link isnt showing)

Here is the free ebook hosted on my daughter site....

http://theillusion.org.uk/?page_id=346

I'll look at that now as i'm really intrigued. It proves there are many different approaches. The mindset is whats most important as you have proven. You look so well in your picture now. I laughed at the bird on your shoulder btw - no more fish and chips for the birdies though :(

Ive tried now and then on various threads to help people who have asked about weight loss but they all tend to ignore it and I am betting they have the mental thinking that it has to be hard or does not work or you need to buy books as free ones are rubbish
Agrees :D
A few are still stuck in the calories in and out paradigm too and through my own experience and testing, the whole train of thought is utter rubbish. Sorry :o

Agrees :D (even the acid paradigm is limited as you can also transmute food if your focus and intention are correct)

On that note...I watched a video by Dr Young where he said the body does not work on calories but on energy(how alive it is with stored power hz??) levels from the food :D now that makes a ton more sense but some will just not open to the idea....I think I have seen it work for myself and it would cure a great puzzle for me....How I could eat and drink a combination of 4000 calories for 4 days in a row and still lose 2lb.......Fluid does not turn calorie content to fat.....Christ I have drank enough beer through my weight-loss to see that :p[/QUOTE]

The body vibrates at 70mhz. The average diet is 20-50 mhz. Big mac is 2-7mhz (does have some life due to lettice and tomato) so the body must work to raise the vibration of the food for assimilation. Raw stuff is all above 70 mhz. click on the scribd link and you will see kirlian pics of living food. Perhaps you were able to harness and invoke energy from elsewhere (or had help from other sources) and were able to rasie the vibration and therefore improve pH too on a physical level. Its all about energy really (thats my business name btw as it really is just about energy and vibration)

My mental realisation was firstly, My body will know its ideal weight and my mind knows only what is has been conditioned to think is correct. After this it was a realisation that when I need to pee, I go and I do not need the authority figures to give me a step by step on how not to piss myself :D Then we have Diets that are worth big bucks to big companies.....

I then thought, OK I will eat only the foods I love but I will really really enjoy them by having the best quality, even if small in size and will really take my time and enjoy the experience (all in book)....once I got going my whole mental mood lifted and it was like freedom from the food police and inner negative self talk.....I was sceptical but in the first week I dropped 10lb and then kept away from the scale and kept going....next thing I knew...I was back near my teenager weight and had never restricted anything from fav foods to alcohol! It was not the healthiest diet mind you but it was for what I needed to do....lose weight in a good enjoyable way and remove massive excess weight.....near the end I had an awakening on how the world works and had spiritual realisations where I went from a sceptic (who even appeared on Most Haunted as one ;) ) to realisation that we are more than we have been led to believe. I had personal experiences that blew my mind and sine I have never been the same...a sponge for research and study

Dr Young should take what you say on board!

A rather plump sceptical and nervous me.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_g_vPyHBXs

God how I have changed physically, mentally and spiritually...night and day!

Ok I am waaaayyyy of topic...Sorry Domathy :D


haha, love it! "no Yvette, its just a dodgey fuse box, sorry" :D

domathy
27-06-2011, 12:32 PM
Mmmmm just drank the juice of 5 lemons.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s3gyGPCsFOw/TElVLb1_onI/AAAAAAAAALM/lEc4rBy4uOE/s1600/lemons-300x297.jpg

Careful, they're addictive :D

domathy
27-06-2011, 12:40 PM
I noticed that on the audio book, he did mention Young but gave more kudos to someone else (forgot name). He said everything you say in this thread!

its a good audio to be fair. I like Robbins' style of presenting

My choice for night time listening while exercising and going to sleep is usually more in line with Dr Wayne Dyer, Tao, Vedas or even Gregg Braden etc but after seeing Tony (who I briefly heard about) in the following videos I was more interested in him.....

yeah...GET THE EDGE(tm) might be a bit full on before bed time :D

I do a meditation on sacred geometry before bed and/or an audio with certain frequencies to fix my brain or something. Im not sure tbh but i like it. here;s an intro to the concept:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvKP0SERi6c





By the way, all parts are on youtube for those wanting to see it all.

Think you are right about the Alcohol...good point too is..I am bouncing out of bed EARLY now :D

I do not eat great deals of fruit and I am goign to keep it that way...will still add my Apples to my green juice though for natural sweetness till I get more in the groove :D

I been using a big of grape juice as the MMS is starting to grate a bit - so dont sweat a bit of apple juice, it tastes looovely in juices, esp with some ginger too.

jconnar
27-06-2011, 12:40 PM
Careful, they're addictive :D

After I can't get the buzz out of lemons, I'm moving onto Grapefruits!


http://thecoolpepper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/grapefruit.jpg

domathy
27-06-2011, 12:42 PM
After I can't get the buzz out of lemons, I'm moving onto Grapefruits!


http://thecoolpepper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/grapefruit.jpg

its a slippery slope :p
Youll be smoking pineapples next.

domathy
27-06-2011, 12:47 PM
Thanks for the advice scottishryan - will do.

Those results are fantastic!! Thanks for sharing.

I think the thing that gets me at the moment is not having much of a choice in the first place. But, I have stacks of bicarb and so will just get right back on it.

Have you done a thread about your weightloss already? You look completely different in your pics. It must be incredibly fulfilling to look back at the before and after shots. Seriously, huge pat on the back to you.

I have zilch willpower (see above post) :(

And psoriasis :(:(

And no money :(:(:(

PITY ME!!! :D

If you need good veg but cant afford, all you need is night vision goggles and to know where the organic fields are in your area. If you hear gunshots run in a zig-zag fashion - those are my best tips atm :)

domathy
27-06-2011, 01:05 PM
Dr Young explains the truth about 'Flesh Eating' bacteria:
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2006/11/flesh-eating-bacteria.html

thelucifer
27-06-2011, 01:31 PM
Dr Young explains the truth about 'Flesh Eating' bacteria:
http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2006/11/flesh-eating-bacteria.html

I would add using oxygen/oxidation therapies as well like peroxide baths etc.
Very cheap, great bang for the buck.

One can spray the body with 3% (do not spray in eyes or hair), especially after a shower and air dry.


Baking soda epsom salt baths.


Oxygen therapies are the perfect partner with alkalizing.

scottishryan
27-06-2011, 02:09 PM
I am loving this thread, good advise by all, great humour and seriousness mixed in!! :D

Thanks for all the tips!!!

Domathy... hopefully it shows this time...just a few photos!

Weight Loss In Pics - 70+lbs - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKWkMtuJipw

Do you think the battery power for the light on that show were Alkaline bwahahahahahahaa :D:D

Yes Get The Edge is a little full on for night time...no wonder I am bouncing out the bed at 5/6am :D I like Tony...he motivates very well and he touches good areas...I like a good dose of Spiritual stuff too though and thoughts creating reality is my fav subject at present...due to some very strange experiences ;)

Going to check out the meditation video on sacred Geometry....

You know what......all the subjects I have been studying, enjoying and practising seem to be coming together in this one thread :D:D

Good Stuff!!

domathy
28-06-2011, 12:55 PM
I would add using oxygen/oxidation therapies as well like peroxide baths etc.
Very cheap, great bang for the buck.

One can spray the body with 3% (do not spray in eyes or hair), especially after a shower and air dry.


Baking soda epsom salt baths.


Oxygen therapies are the perfect partner with alkalizing.


Good point. Also bathing in MMS works very well too.
I am loving this thread, good advise by all, great humour and seriousness mixed in!! :D

Thanks for all the tips!!!

Domathy... hopefully it shows this time...just a few photos!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKWkMtuJipw


Yeah, loved it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKWkMtuJipw

Do you think the battery power for the light on that show were Alkaline bwahahahahahahaa :D:D

Yes Get The Edge is a little full on for night time...no wonder I am bouncing out the bed at 5/6am :D I like Tony...he motivates very well and he touches good areas...I like a good dose of Spiritual stuff too though and thoughts creating reality is my fav subject at present...due to some very strange experiences ;)


I prefer Robbins to Dr Young in terms of presenting ability. Young makes it sound really dull.
And feel free to share thosestrange experiences. :)

Going to check out the meditation video on sacred Geometry....

You know what......all the subjects I have been studying, enjoying and practising seem to be coming together in this one thread :D:D

Good Stuff!!

scottishryan
28-06-2011, 02:07 PM
Good point. Also bathing in MMS works very well too.

Strange experiences :eek: Where do I start...you know I spent 5 years investigating paranormal claims in Scotland including the TV and radio work and I was pretty sceptical, not a spiritual bone in my body that was awake to anything and then as soon as I coincidently fell over the LOA while looking at near death experiences...everything changed.

For some reason it made sense and I immersed myself in information from everywhere....looking at all our great minds of the past and present and it was one morning while 'thinking' in my head that I was going to research the Egyptians and other greats that I saw something weird that was staring me in the face....

My glass wardrobes at the side of my bed were mirroring back to me the window behind me and the tie backs where swinging ferociously in a very straight and deliberate manner. I spun around to catch then stopping and jumped out of bed to do my investigative work and try and create it...well I couldn't it was impossible due to the window ledge unless...they were being held out slightly :D Anywho from then on in my perceived reality fell to bits..

I was watching synchronicity after synchronicity and things were far surpassing mere chance so much I could list...I tested it one day while awaiting my wife from the shop..."Give me TAO on a number plate or sign and then I will know its not all craziness in my head" (I was reading the Tao at the time)

You knwo what happened eh...15 minutes later I approach roundabout and check my mirrors and I see the car behind mirror back TAO and numbers :D got the wife to confirm it and it blew my mind.

I honestly could go on and on but you would truly need to see all this...My wife does not take much notice of it all but I have showed her many things and it freaks her out.

I am just wondering if those magic words I asked myself after losing the weight " What else are we not told " has been opened up for me....I went through every topic from spirituality, conspiracies, health and you name it and they came to me in emails, youtube subscriptions, contact with people and just weird experiences that I observed first hand.

In the last 2 years my attitude has flipped around and my priorities and way of living has changed...my immediate family, health and seeking of who and what is my purpose is always at my minds front.

I packed in all my paranormal research, passed over my organisations to other trusted people, gave up on media work et al to find my true purpose...still searching lol :D

Thats the very short jumbled up version :p

The world is much more mysterious than we think.

domathy
28-06-2011, 08:59 PM
Strange experiences :eek: Where do I start...you know I spent 5 years investigating paranormal claims in Scotland including the TV and radio work and I was pretty sceptical, not a spiritual bone in my body that was awake to anything and then as soon as I coincidently fell over the LOA while looking at near death experiences...everything changed.

For some reason it made sense and I immersed myself in information from everywhere....looking at all our great minds of the past and present and it was one morning while 'thinking' in my head that I was going to research the Egyptians and other greats that I saw something weird that was staring me in the face....

My glass wardrobes at the side of my bed were mirroring back to me the window behind me and the tie backs where swinging ferociously in a very straight and deliberate manner. I spun around to catch then stopping and jumped out of bed to do my investigative work and try and create it...well I couldn't it was impossible due to the window ledge unless...they were being held out slightly :D Anywho from then on in my perceived reality fell to bits..

I was watching synchronicity after synchronicity and things were far surpassing mere chance so much I could list...I tested it one day while awaiting my wife from the shop..."Give me TAO on a number plate or sign and then I will know its not all craziness in my head" (I was reading the Tao at the time)

You knwo what happened eh...15 minutes later I approach roundabout and check my mirrors and I see the car behind mirror back TAO and numbers :D got the wife to confirm it and it blew my mind.

I honestly could go on and on but you would truly need to see all this...My wife does not take much notice of it all but I have showed her many things and it freaks her out.

I am just wondering if those magic words I asked myself after losing the weight " What else are we not told " has been opened up for me....I went through every topic from spirituality, conspiracies, health and you name it and they came to me in emails, youtube subscriptions, contact with people and just weird experiences that I observed first hand.

In the last 2 years my attitude has flipped around and my priorities and way of living has changed...my immediate family, health and seeking of who and what is my purpose is always at my minds front.

I packed in all my paranormal research, passed over my organisations to other trusted people, gave up on media work et al to find my true purpose...still searching lol :D

Thats the very short jumbled up version :p

The world is much more mysterious than we think.

Dr Young opened up new possibilities to me as it challenged limited concepts with regards to health. That opened me up to LOA, which in turn opened me up to Icke and all the rest of it. Prior to all that had had experiences with meditation and crystal healing which had given me a glimpse of something fresh - plus insights just channelled into my mind and so many synchronicities its impossible to list all. I saw a number plate that said 911 and was 9:44 on my clock (44 divided by 4 is 11) so 911 x 2 plus 444. Had 555 4 times in 2 days (messages in email and phone inbox, time on sat nav etc) nothing spectacular there but keep noticing numbers. Keep getting the number 47 - but according to another DIF memeber- this is very common.

Asking questions is great "what else were we not told" is good. I ask questions about everything. WHat do i need to know next? where should i go next? etc. I ask about people, or whatever i want to know and wait for a sign or signal to arrive.

Sounds like youre on the right track, keep us posted :D

scottishryan
29-06-2011, 07:03 AM
Dr Young opened up new possibilities to me as it challenged limited concepts with regards to health. That opened me up to LOA, which in turn opened me up to Icke and all the rest of it. Prior to all that had had experiences with meditation and crystal healing which had given me a glimpse of something fresh - plus insights just channelled into my mind and so many synchronicities its impossible to list all. I saw a number plate that said 911 and was 9:44 on my clock (44 divided by 4 is 11) so 911 x 2 plus 444. Had 555 4 times in 2 days (messages in email and phone inbox, time on sat nav etc) nothing spectacular there but keep noticing numbers. Keep getting the number 47 - but according to another DIF memeber- this is very common.

Asking questions is great "what else were we not told" is good. I ask questions about everything. WHat do i need to know next? where should i go next? etc. I ask about people, or whatever i want to know and wait for a sign or signal to arrive.

Sounds like youre on the right track, keep us posted :D

Morning Domathy,

Goodness, reading your post rings so many bells....My number is 747 by the way...you will see around the boards here where I talk about it a lot. the usual 11:11's come up now and then too...I remember one day where a family member was beginning to gossip about someone and I was just ready to laugh and get ego involved when I looked up to a small monitor gadget for my electricity usage and it mirrored back 1111kwh and Instantly snapped our of gossip mode and felt very unconformable :D

I once never gave much interest to crystals or the like but now wear two around my neck, visit a local shop on regular occasions to look at them and have a deeper feeling these days that they are much more important than we have been led to believe.

Well....this morning, I put a full unpeeled lemon though my green juice and it was lovely. I thought it would be too strong but it tastes so good. Might be my answer to the replacement of apple and pears through to sweeten up as I loved the taste and leaves a good after taste too.

Still a few acid forming foods in my eating plan but slowly things are reducing! :D:D

domathy
29-06-2011, 09:06 AM
Morning Domathy,

Goodness, reading your post rings so many bells....My number is 747 by the way...you will see around the boards here where I talk about it a lot. the usual 11:11's come up now and then too...I remember one day where a family member was beginning to gossip about someone and I was just ready to laugh and get ego involved when I looked up to a small monitor gadget for my electricity usage and it mirrored back 1111kwh and Instantly snapped our of gossip mode and felt very unconformable :D

I once never gave much interest to crystals or the like but now wear two around my neck, visit a local shop on regular occasions to look at them and have a deeper feeling these days that they are much more important than we have been led to believe.

Well....this morning, I put a full unpeeled lemon though my green juice and it was lovely. I thought it would be too strong but it tastes so good. Might be my answer to the replacement of apple and pears through to sweeten up as I loved the taste and leaves a good after taste too.

Still a few acid forming foods in my eating plan but slowly things are reducing! :D:D

I get the 11:11 thing a lot. 11 11:11 recently (time and outside temp reading on dashboard) plus looked at a thread on number synchronicities and saw 2011 11:11 on my DIF profile. etc etc. Its just a bit of fun, but good to spot this stuff. I just looked at another of my threads and it has 47 replies.

LEmon juice works very well with juice doesnt it?!

scottishryan
29-06-2011, 10:14 AM
I get the 11:11 thing a lot. 11 11:11 recently (time and outside temp reading on dashboard) plus looked at a thread on number synchronicities and saw 2011 11:11 on my DIF profile. etc etc. Its just a bit of fun, but good to spot this stuff. I just looked at another of my threads and it has 47 replies.

LEmon juice works very well with juice doesnt it?!

Excellent Stuff!! :D

Yeah, just been to the shops and got another big bag of them....Just shows you, do not pre-judge a taste till you have tried it LOL LOL

domathy
29-06-2011, 12:53 PM
Excellent Stuff!! :D

Yeah, just been to the shops and got another big bag of them....Just shows you, do not pre-judge a taste till you have tried it LOL LOL

I was just taking payment details from someone just a moment ago and their card details were as follows: **47 **** **** 47** Phone number ending 474 :D

Went out the other day after chatting to someone about the number 47 as had seen it a lot recently and that day.
I saw an Alfa romeo 147 with the number 47 in the plate. Went to tesco just to buy nail files (else i bit my nails :o) and they were 47p. Came home and the only time i even glanced at the telly all night saw a merecedes van with personalised plate that was 47 and the rest letters. Gets a bit boring after a while :D

domathy
29-06-2011, 01:49 PM
My friend was staying in a hotel for a wedding a few weeks ago. She decided to be good and go to bed early instead of stay downstairs drinking, so made a cup of tea to go to bed with. But, she forgot the kettle was on a cord attached to the wall and was not a cordless kettle. She walked away from wall with kettle in hand, and when the cord ran out of slack she spilled a whole kettle of boiling water on her totally bare leg.

Her sister (who was staying in the room with her) put water and ice over it, but took a photo and sent to me as could see it was bad. I got there in 10 mins (by 'chance' happened to be nearby) and put clay all over the burn. Even i was nervous that maybe should go to A&E instead as the leg was much worse than the photo that was sent 10 mins ago) But, thanks to the clay, within 1 hour the skin was white again!! Delayed shock was the issue, but the leg was healed, except for a small red patch. But we helped her throught the shock (were up till 3am) and she was well enough to go for brekkie at 8am. (though, couldnt shower as was still a bit sensitive, so used shampoo in a can to make herself presentable and set off the hotel fire alarms causing an evacuation of the whole building lol :p)

So, should have been 2nd degree burns (she is very small and has pale sensitive skin so am sure would have been 2nd degree burns) but healed in an hour. A red patch came back later that day so put more clay on till it went away totally. Now she takes my crazy alkalizing stuff more seriously as even she admits it was nothing short of a miricale as had been in agony before the clay worked.

This is what the leg looked like a few mins after the burn and after having ice and running cold water over it:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7628/charsleg.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/charsleg.jpg/)

(sorry, its a rubbish pic taken on an iphone in a dark room, but you can still see)

scottishryan
29-06-2011, 02:07 PM
I was just taking payment details from someone just a moment ago and their card details were as follows: **47 **** **** 47** Phone number ending 474 :D

Went out the other day after chatting to someone about the number 47 as had seen it a lot recently and that day.
I saw an Alfa romeo 147 with the number 47 in the plate. Went to tesco just to buy nail files (else i bit my nails :o) and they were 47p. Came home and the only time i even glanced at the telly all night saw a merecedes van with personalised plate that was 47 and the rest letters. Gets a bit boring after a while :D

Hahahahahahaaaa I was adding up my funds earlier as its end of month and I need to ensure everything is paid and what I have left for my own pocket this week.

£74.75 pence... you could not make it up!! :D

It does become part of your life though...you just smile and move on...when I first go it all It was unreal! Now I take it in my stride :D

scottishryan
29-06-2011, 02:10 PM
My friend was staying in a hotel for a wedding a few weeks ago. She decided to be good and go to bed early instead of stay downstairs drinking, so made a cup of tea to go to bed with. But, she forgot the kettle was on a cord attached to the wall and was not a cordless kettle. She walked away from wall with kettle in hand, and when the cord ran out of slack she spilled a whole kettle of boiling water on her totally bare leg.

Her sister (who was staying in the room with her) put water and ice over it, but took a photo and sent to me as could see it was bad. I got there in 10 mins (by 'chance' happened to be nearby) and put clay all over the burn. Even i was nervous that maybe should go to A&E instead as the leg was much worse than the photo that was sent 10 mins ago) But, thanks to the clay, within 1 hour the skin was white again!! Delayed shock was the issue, but the leg was healed, except for a small red patch. But we helped her throught the shock (were up till 3am) and she was well enough to go for brekkie at 8am. (though, couldnt shower as was still a bit sensitive, so used shampoo in a can to make herself presentable and set off the hotel fire alarms causing an evacuation of the whole building lol :p)

So, should have been 2nd degree burns (she is very small and has pale sensitive skin so am sure would have been 2nd degree burns) but healed in an hour. A red patch came back later that day so put more clay on till it went away totally. Now she takes my crazy alkalizing stuff more seriously as even she admits it was nothing short of a miricale as had been in agony before the clay worked.

This is what the leg looked like a few mins after the burn and after having ice and running cold water over it:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7628/charsleg.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/charsleg.jpg/)

(sorry, its a rubbish pic taken on an iphone in a dark room, but you can still see)

WOW :eek:

So this clay is a handy thing to have around the house then?

domathy
29-06-2011, 08:33 PM
WOW :eek:

So this clay is a handy thing to have around the house then?

So far its cured the burned leg.
A massive haemotoma overnight.
An injured ankle (been bad for 3 weeks, then cured overnight with clay)
I smashed my knuckle and it swelled to the size of a mini egg and turned red then purple. I was terrified as couldnt afford an injury that would affect work etc - so applied clay and raised my arm and it was cure in one hour. No mark
and no pain. Otherwise it would have taken at least 2 weeks to heal fully.

Good for burns, stings, bites, and more. So yes, every household should have clay.

scottishryan
29-06-2011, 08:42 PM
Flippen Heck :eek::eek::eek:

Another research topic to the list then!! Magnificent stuff!

domathy
29-06-2011, 08:46 PM
Flippen Heck :eek::eek::eek:

Another research topic to the list then!! Magnificent stuff!

Yes, the NHS could learn a lot. Here is a very good resource:
http://www.eytonsearth.org/

(sorry, changed my avatar as a joke on another thread - had to pull a serious face for someone)

domathy
29-06-2011, 09:28 PM
Flippen Heck :eek::eek::eek:

Another research topic to the list then!! Magnificent stuff!

I'm spoiling you now :D


Official Trailer - "Eat The Sun" - YouTube


(i've been doing this for 2 years and the results are just phenomenal)

0ddity
30-06-2011, 12:10 AM
You say wheatgrass has 4x more protein than meat. Is that in the juice alone?

leon11
30-06-2011, 01:32 AM
I'm spoiling you now :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM9iDdkKZ7M


(i've been doing this for 2 years and the results are just phenomenal)

interesting dom! i might give it a try, at the risk of bein blind / a crazy hippie.

you look sexy in your new picture btw =D

leon11
30-06-2011, 01:47 AM
I was just taking payment details from someone just a moment ago and their card details were as follows: **47 **** **** 47** Phone number ending 474 :D

Went out the other day after chatting to someone about the number 47 as had seen it a lot recently and that day.
I saw an Alfa romeo 147 with the number 47 in the plate. Went to tesco just to buy nail files (else i bit my nails :o) and they were 47p. Came home and the only time i even glanced at the telly all night saw a merecedes van with personalised plate that was 47 and the rest letters. Gets a bit boring after a while :D

4 and 7 is ELEVEN and tintin has highlighted many, many 4 / 7 / 1 / 9 or 1947 links on the NEWS behind the NEWS (which is difficult and confusing read but he is definitely onto something!!).....
these codes are some kind of GLITCHES IN THE MATRIX!!?! the PTB also seem to almost worship them, or at least use them for profit.
(most things seem to come down to 11 by design btw...the 'master number'.)

i think our souls or true minds are indeed in some kind of machine or computer.
the illusion!!

the numbers and data synchronicities (waaay too many to be chance) we experience support the hologram theory, and links to phi and the spiral pattern... like ripples on a pond....we notice patterns because of the vibrations and waves.

the waves, synchonicities and patterns are becoming more noticeable as we get deeper into this cycle...closer to whatever is to happen.

i swear we are in for a ride this november (11.11.11)!

domathy
30-06-2011, 10:12 AM
Hahahahahahaaaa I was adding up my funds earlier as its end of month and I need to ensure everything is paid and what I have left for my own pocket this week.

£74.75 pence... you could not make it up!! :D

It does become part of your life though...you just smile and move on...when I first go it all It was unreal! Now I take it in my stride :D

Sorry, I missed this post. :D

I turned my phone on this morning, and the time said 7:47 :cool:

domathy
30-06-2011, 10:16 AM
You say wheatgrass has 4x more protein than meat. Is that in the juice alone?

Hmm, I think so, i guess the rest is just fibre. Im sorry though as Im not 100%
on that.

interesting dom! i might give it a try, at the risk of bein blind / a crazy hippie.

you look sexy in your new picture btw =D

"At the risk of being blind" lol

Ive been doing it for over 2 years and no harm done yet - apart from bein a crazy hippie. You might get funny looks if you do in your town centre though :)

Changed my pic back. Machine told me i looked backward in my avatar, so i said would show him my serious face, but only for a short time.

domathy
30-06-2011, 10:20 AM
4 and 7 is ELEVEN and tintin has highlighted many, many 4 / 7 / 1 / 9 or 1947 links on the NEWS behind the NEWS (which is difficult and confusing read but he is definitely onto something!!).....
these codes are some kind of GLITCHES IN THE MATRIX!!?! the PTB also seem to almost worship them, or at least use them for profit.
(most things seem to come down to 11 by design btw...the 'master number'.)

i think our souls or true minds are indeed in some kind of machine or computer.
the illusion!!

the numbers and data synchronicities (waaay too many to be chance) we experience support the hologram theory, and links to phi and the spiral pattern... like ripples on a pond....we notice patterns because of the vibrations and waves.

the waves, synchonicities and patterns are becoming more noticeable as we get deeper into this cycle...closer to whatever is to happen.

i swear we are in for a ride this november (11.11.11)!


Someone sent me a link to the 47society: http://www.47.net/47society/

But maybe this is disinfo or playing down the whole thing.

Add up your age with the year you were born, and you will always get 111 (this year anyway) so for me its (19)81 + 30 = 111 :D

lulushka8
30-06-2011, 10:32 AM
Originally Posted by leon11 View Post
4 and 7 is ELEVEN and tintin has highlighted many, many 4 / 7 / 1 / 9 or 1947 links on the NEWS behind the NEWS (which is difficult and confusing read but he is definitely onto something!!).....
these codes are some kind of GLITCHES IN THE MATRIX!!?! the PTB also seem to almost worship them, or at least use them for profit.
(most things seem to come down to 11 by design btw...the 'master number'.)

i think our souls or true minds are indeed in some kind of machine or computer.
the illusion!!

the numbers and data synchronicities (waaay too many to be chance) we experience support the hologram theory, and links to phi and the spiral pattern... like ripples on a pond....we notice patterns because of the vibrations and waves.

the waves, synchonicities and patterns are becoming more noticeable as we get deeper into this cycle...closer to whatever is to happen.

i swear we are in for a ride this november (11.11.11)!

me too.

and i missed the serious domathy pic. :(

domathy
30-06-2011, 10:44 AM
me too.

and i missed the serious domathy pic. :(

haha, too late :D


EDIT: also Leon11, your post is number 333 :)

MAybe it is a countdown sequence, like in independance day!

scottishryan
30-06-2011, 11:18 AM
:D:D More excellent information to look into and try out! In the morning I get the sun through the kitchen and on some occasions I have been gazing at the sun :D:D Methinks I need to do it more often and outside in nature!! Why not!!! ;)

Loving all the number sync's

How can so many people, with such good intentions be getting so many similar experiences! Its amazing!

You can join the dots up too....those who notice the numbers and situations also come across the world manipulation, health, food and spirituality and change perception which is always to a positive aspect. The fight back from authority is to tell you its all hairy fairy stuff and mere chance....Hilarious stuff! :D

domathy
30-06-2011, 12:33 PM
:D:D More excellent information to look into and try out! In the morning I get the sun through the kitchen and on some occasions I have been gazing at the sun :D:D Methinks I need to do it more often and outside in nature!! Why not!!! ;)

Loving all the number sync's

How can so many people, with such good intentions be getting so many similar experiences! Its amazing!

You can join the dots up too....those who notice the numbers and situations also come across the world manipulation, health, food and spirituality and change perception which is always to a positive aspect. The fight back from authority is to tell you its all hairy fairy stuff and mere chance....Hilarious stuff! :D

Maybe its all feedback that we are breaking their codes or something?

I'm not kidding, I just drove into town and saw a man carrying a large '9/11 was an inside job' sign. So i looked at my dash and the temp was 21 and time 11am (plus odd mins) 21:11 :D

Parked up but couldnt find the protest :(

scottishryan
30-06-2011, 02:14 PM
It may well be Domathy, I know our thoughts seem to influence our environment, especially when heightened by using emotion but the numbers seem to be an addition...like a road map or confirmation to thoughts et al....If that makes sense.

My wife is not into any of this but not opposed to it (She likes TV so I let her off lol) but she even sees 9/11 a lot (And blames me) Some family members are also getting this and are confused as they know nothing about the nature of reality that we talk of here....they only know work, rest and play...but now they questions how they think something and it happens :D

Something is going on and I think its to do with Consciousness and natural evolution of it...we are headed somewhere and life is getting mighty strange :D

My 747's took a turn for the strange when I came across information that a certain Mr Jesus was actually born April 17, 6 BC (17/4/747 Roman Calendar [AUC]) was the actual date that Jesus was born

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_Jesus'_real_birthday#ixzz1QlT2Ad00

By the way...I am a million miles from religious.....I actually think after reading the Gospel Of Thomas (which was removed from the bible and the reason I sought it out) that the stories or symbolic meaning is to do with our own true spirit or even this Christ consciousness and nothing to do with the man made stories, religious claptrap et al.

Anywho....neat eh HAHAHAHAHA :D:D

moods999
30-06-2011, 07:00 PM
Hey Dom! Do you have any suggestions to reverse antidepressant damage? I cant organize my life anymore and i dont know what to do really.

domathy
30-06-2011, 09:01 PM
Hey Dom! Do you have any suggestions to reverse antidepressant damage? I cant organize my life anymore and i dont know what to do really.

You just got to get all the shite out your body as best you can. I was at the stage from taking drugs that i just stayed in bed for months as was incapable of making decisions and had no motivation. You need to alklaize, provide good fats (soaked hemp seed), chlorophyll, and hydrate too. A liver flush might be a good idea. Also look at MMS as this will clear stuff out of the brain and nervous system too. Ask questions whenever you want :)

domathy
30-06-2011, 09:03 PM
me too.

and i missed the serious domathy pic. :(

haha, too late :D

Ah, here you go then: :D
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8815/555tz.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/555tz.jpg/)



MAybe it is a countdown sequence, like in independance day!

It may well be Domathy, I know our thoughts seem to influence our environment, especially when heightened by using emotion but the numbers seem to be an addition...like a road map or confirmation to thoughts et al....If that makes sense.

My wife is not into any of this but not opposed to it (She likes TV so I let her off lol) but she even sees 9/11 a lot (And blames me) Some family members are also getting this and are confused as they know nothing about the nature of reality that we talk of here....they only know work, rest and play...but now they questions how they think something and it happens :D

Something is going on and I think its to do with Consciousness and natural evolution of it...we are headed somewhere and life is getting mighty strange :D

My 747's took a turn for the strange when I came across information that a certain Mr Jesus was actually born

By the way...I am a million miles from religious.....I actually think after reading the Gospel Of Thomas (which was removed from the bible and the reason I sought it out) that the stories or symbolic meaning is to do with our own true spirit or even this Christ consciousness and nothing to do with the man made stories, religious claptrap et al.

Anywho....neat eh HAHAHAHAHA :D:D

That;s interesting :)

moods999
30-06-2011, 09:10 PM
You just got to get all the shite out your body as best you can. I was at the stage from taking drugs that i just stayed in bed for months as was incapable of making decisions and had no motivation. You need to alklaize, provide good fats (soaked hemp seed), chlorophyll, and hydrate too. A liver flush might be a good idea. Also look at MMS as this will clear stuff out of the brain and nervous system too. Ask questions whenever you want :) Great Thank you very much! I am very grateful!

wildhorse
30-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Maybe its all feedback that we are breaking their codes or something?

I'm not kidding, I just drove into town and saw a man carrying a large '9/11 was an inside job' sign. So i looked at my dash and the temp was 21 and time 11am (plus odd mins) 21:11 :D

Parked up but couldnt find the protest :(

really weird...i kept seeing 2012 alot...and of course lots of mirror numbers but it was always 2012...so i said okays...i hear ya :rolleyes:

now i keep seeing 2011 on my clocks (not calenders cos that would be jus cheating :D)

i reckon its hinting at 2012 is really 2011

anyways...mr big dom....

iyho...would you buy himalayan salt or mag ox or sodium barcarbonate? jus im a doleyite and well....

ps you look like a psycho and very serious about it in your serious pic :D :p *i cant talk if you saw one of mine*

domathy
01-07-2011, 10:04 AM
really weird...i kept seeing 2012 alot...and of course lots of mirror numbers but it was always 2012...so i said okays...i hear ya :rolleyes:

now i keep seeing 2011 on my clocks (not calenders cos that would be jus cheating :D)

i reckon its hinting at 2012 is really 2011

anyways...mr big dom....

iyho...would you buy himalayan salt or mag ox or sodium barcarbonate? jus im a doleyite and well....

ps you look like a psycho and very serious about it in your serious pic :D :p *i cant talk if you saw one of mine*


I know, I think we all might have front row seats for some interesting times ahead :D

Thats a tough one - I would say salt is the priority for sure. Then add salt to your drinking water, so will alklaize the water too.

I'll try to find the non-cropped pic - i look serious as I was taking a photo of my mobile phone which had 555 messages in inbox - and was just focussing on getting the phone in focus (not on smiling) as was sending a pic to someone when lots off 555's had been coming up. Then i noticed how serious i looked :D

wildhorse
01-07-2011, 01:52 PM
I know, I think we all might have front row seats for some interesting times ahead :D

Thats a tough one - I would say salt is the priority for sure. Then add salt to your drinking water, so will alklaize the water too.

I'll try to find the non-cropped pic - i look serious as I was taking a photo of my mobile phone which had 555 messages in inbox - and was just focussing on getting the phone in focus (not on smiling) as was sending a pic to someone when lots off 555's had been coming up. Then i noticed how serious i looked :D

yeah i was swaying towards the him salt myself, and adding that to my water and bath...it was a good price cos i used to get 5kg of dead sea salt for a lil more coinage

considering i have 15 quid a week food budget i think im not doing too bad....part from my coffee and american spirit rollies :rolleyes::o but im sure theres room for improvement hehe

wake up...coffee[s] and rollie[s] :o:D

half lemon sliced and in water (jus keep topping up water throughout day...tho i dont top up nearly enough meh)

other half sliced lemon in hot water

fresh mint leaves in hot water...so refreshing

apple for lunch

legume soup mix/turnip/carrots/onions/green leafy veg souped up for a meal

alternate meal, multi veg in basmati rice, drenched in EV olive oil...yeah anno the rice aint so good but its cheap and me likes so nerrr

treats...organic yoghurt made with raw milk, roasted parsnips in the multifuel stove :) and yes...now and again, chocolate....

rarely drink wine but had some recently due to lots of parties at friends so gunna get back on track with that

supplements... multivit, evening primrose, flaxseed, kelp, aloe vera juice now and again, and soon himalayan salt

such a frugal life :rolleyes::D

wildhorse
01-07-2011, 01:56 PM
.

I'll try to find the non-cropped pic - i look serious as I was taking a photo of my mobile phone which had 555 messages in inbox - and was just focussing on getting the phone in focus (not on smiling) as was sending a pic to someone when lots off 555's had been coming up. Then i noticed how serious i looked :D

ive found mine....i look a reet bitch :D

hope ya catch it cos its coming down...very very soon...

(http://img19.imageshack.us/i/dreads2k.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

stillwakingup
01-07-2011, 03:15 PM
Hey Dom,

Thanks for all the great info.I was just wondering if you could "Bullet point"
what you take in a day re bicarb etc? I knwo there is loads of info on the thread, but theres so much I am trying to break it down for simplicity and wuold like to know apart from youre actual diet what you use? thx:)

moods999
01-07-2011, 03:59 PM
Take a look at this Dissolve It All with Dr. Robert Cassar - YouTube and his channel Earthshiftproject!

domathy
01-07-2011, 08:32 PM
yeah i was swaying towards the him salt myself, and adding that to my water and bath...it was a good price cos i used to get 5kg of dead sea salt for a lil more coinage

considering i have 15 quid a week food budget i think im not doing too bad....part from my coffee and american spirit rollies :rolleyes::o but im sure theres room for improvement hehe

wake up...coffee[s] and rollie[s]

half lemon sliced and in water (jus keep topping up water throughout day...tho i dont top up nearly enough meh)

Better to squeeze the juice into the water.

other half sliced lemon in hot water

fresh mint leaves in hot water...so refreshing Good :)

apple for lunch

legume soup mix/turnip/carrots/onions/green leafy veg souped up for a meal

alternate meal, multi veg in basmati rice, drenched in EV olive oil...yeah anno the rice aint so good but its cheap and me likes so nerrr haha

treats...organic yoghurt made with raw milk, roasted parsnips in the multifuel stove and yes...now and again, chocolate....

you so naughty :p

rarely drink wine but had some recently due to lots of parties at friends so gunna get back on track with that

supplements... multivit, evening primrose, flaxseed, kelp, aloe vera juice now and again, and soon himalayan salt

such a frugal life :rolleyes::D

not bad! drop the multi-shit (is prob full of magnesuim stearate and other nonsense - not bioavailable i mean) flax/primrose probably oxidised - better to invest in UDO's oil - even if you use less as its more expensive.

ive found mine....i look a reet bitch :D

hope ya catch it cos its coming down...very very soon...

(http://img19.imageshack.us/i/dreads2k.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Charming :eek: :D

Im sure youre nice really (for a cereal killer :D)

domathy
01-07-2011, 08:40 PM
Hey Dom,

Thanks for all the great info.I was just wondering if you could "Bullet point"
what you take in a day re bicarb etc? I knwo there is loads of info on the thread, but theres so much I am trying to break it down for simplicity and wuold like to know apart from youre actual diet what you use? thx:)

It depends on the day but generally something like this,

6am ish Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
oil/fats then food (followed by a pinch of mag oxide in small glass of water)
Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
oil/fats then food (followed by a pinch of mag oxide in small glass of water)
Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
oil/fats then food (followed by a pinch of mag oxide in small glass of water)
Bicarb in a litre of water (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)

Something like that.

When i started all this i was drinking 10 litres of greens per day :eek: plus all the colloidal vit/mineral capsules that Dr Young sells. Spent a bomb.

Ideally its best to eat little and often.

Hope that helps :)

domathy
01-07-2011, 08:47 PM
Hey Dom,

Thanks for all the great info.I was just wondering if you could "Bullet point"
what you take in a day re bicarb etc? I knwo there is loads of info on the thread, but theres so much I am trying to break it down for simplicity and wuold like to know apart from youre actual diet what you use? thx:)

It depends on the day but something like this

Bicarb (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
fats/oils, food, plus some mag oxide in a glass of water after food.
Bicarb (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
fats/oils, food, plus some mag oxide in a glass of water after food.
Bicarb (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)
fats/oils, food, plus some mag oxide in a glass of water after food.
Bicarb (and/or pH drops, greens powder, clay)

Summin like that :)

When i started all this i was on 10 litres of greens per day :eek:

Its best to eat little and often and make sure you eat lots of food (just the right kind as much as poss)

Hope that helps :)

domathy
01-07-2011, 08:48 PM
Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35WdoCayCFw and his channel Earthshiftproject!

Having trouble buffering.....will watch that later. Thanks :)

leon11
01-07-2011, 10:42 PM
Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35WdoCayCFw and his channel Earthshiftproject!

this guy seems awesome.

and I think he's been working out!
those arm veins are scary!

Im having buffering problems too now!?

whoa I think he's around 60 years old and his body looks like its at its peak :eek:!

moods999
01-07-2011, 10:50 PM
I had trouble posting it... It dissapeared then edited, saved and now it seems fine to me. I think hes 50.

leon11
01-07-2011, 11:11 PM
I had trouble posting it... It dissapeared then edited, saved and now it seems fine to me. I think hes 50.

yeh i read he was 59 a year or two ago but it may have been wrong...

he's done lots of videos...shall be looking through them

cheers for sharing

wildhorse
01-07-2011, 11:14 PM
not bad! drop the multi-shit (is prob full of magnesuim stearate and other nonsense - not bioavailable i mean) flax/primrose probably oxidised - better to invest in UDO's oil - even if you use less as its more expensive.



Charming :eek: :D

Im sure youre nice really (for a cereal killer :D)

ta for that...but wtf are UDO's?? sounds like sumert you could catch on a pub crawl

this guy seems awesome.

and I think he's been working out!
those arm veins are scary!

Im having buffering problems too now!?

whoa I think he's around 60 years old and his body looks like its at its peak :eek:!

fuck me....:eek: thats jus put every excuse i have ever blurted in the silence bin...except for i bet hes never had a 10lb baby has he, huh :rolleyes:

:D

peaceloveunity
02-07-2011, 07:01 AM
Hi guys,
Ive read that cancer cant survive in an alkaline environment/body so what happens if you have cancer, then alkalize? Does the cancer go away or stop spreading?

lulushka8
02-07-2011, 12:58 PM
terminal cancer can be cured if you act on it (clean diet, alkalize and detox...)

apparently it takes 3 months for your red blood cells to regenerate after changing your lifestyle or going on a cleanse, and you're going to get worse before you get better cause of the dying yeast/bacteria in your body and detox. so give it 3 months.

since i only started about 2/3 weeks ago i'm now experiencing intermittent nausea, and intolerance to some veg like tomatoes. i'm trying to take more liquid foods like soups and juices and plain soaked nuts and seeds as i can only really eat these at the moment. i also got the worst ever flare up of a small ezxema (sp?) patch that i've had for years, but now it;s ok, so i'm def feeling the detox. i woke at 4am today cause i felt so nauseas. (sorry can't spell), can't wait til i've reached the 3 month point.

i'm also taking coco oil straight as it's anti-fungal, great for killing off bacteria in the body. aside from the detox, looking fresher more alive, lots more energy too, as i'm typing my sis just asked me what i'm doing cause more radiant - so that's a reason alone to continue everyone! :D it must be all the nutrients and absence of phytates in my food. hope it's going well for e/body else. x.
:D

lulushka8
02-07-2011, 01:03 PM
fyi Domathy, i prefer your cute gormless pic to the cereal killer one!

domathy
02-07-2011, 06:32 PM
Hi guys,
Ive read that cancer cant survive in an alkaline environment/body so what happens if you have cancer, then alkalize? Does the cancer go away or stop spreading?

Hi peaceloveunity,

What Lulu says is true, the life span of a red blood cell is 3 months - so by adopting an alkaline diet you can expect big changes in the blood within 12 weeks or so.

With regards to cancer, it is true that cancer cannot survive in an alklaine environment. But that doesnt always mean that just by eating a pH balanced diet that all cancer will just go away. It depends on overall health of the person and their constitution/capacity for healing. For example, a very elderly person doenst have the same ability to fight back as a healthy young person.
The diet provides necessary building blocks and other elements, but ultimately it is the body with must deliver those building blocks and remove wastes and unhealthy or aggressive cells.

Another factor is how advanced the cancer is and also the location. I have seen prostate or breast cancer reversed very quickly (12 weeks ish) on this programme, but I know someone with bone marrow cancer and all he has managed to do is hold it at bay for about 5 years (but then he's is not doing everything he should be doing tbh). Pancreatic cancer is the hardest - but a friend had this and had an op to remove part of the pancreas then had chemo. She was tested and still had more cancer cells so was scheduled for more chemo - so we arranged for her to stay with Dr young for 10 days. on her return there were zero cancer markers (conventional medical tests) and her liver had totally recovered from previous chemo (doctor was rather suprised).

THe best approach is to not get cancer in the first place, but alkalizing is a good avenue to explore should someone develop cancer.

Alklaizing can be expensive too as i always reccomend people use ionized greens formulas as this is a really good shortcut. But, more recently i have been exploring the idea of using less greens (to save money) and adding MMS (miracle mineral supplement) to speed up the clearing of unhealthy cells.

But it is true that cancer cant survive in an alklaine environment, but the mechanics need to be considered too.

I hope this answers your question.

domathy
02-07-2011, 06:33 PM
fyi Domathy, i prefer your cute gormless pic to the cereal killer one!

Is that what they call a backhanded compliment? :D

lulushka8
02-07-2011, 06:47 PM
oui :D

enga
02-07-2011, 06:56 PM
Just wanted to share a great recipe I found online....it has lemons and asparagus which I looked up and it says are good for alkalizing. The cheese probably is acidic but it is only a small amount and you could use less or skip it. I used mozarella like in the comments on the page because I don't like parmesan.

http://www.vegetarianliving.co.uk/recipes.php?do=view&recipe=141

domathy
02-07-2011, 07:11 PM
terminal cancer can be cured if you act on it (clean diet, alkalize and detox...)

apparently it takes 3 months for your red blood cells to regenerate after changing your lifestyle or going on a cleanse, and you're going to get worse before you get better cause of the dying yeast/bacteria in your body and detox. so give it 3 months.

since i only started about 2/3 weeks ago i'm now experiencing intermittent nausea, and intolerance to some veg like tomatoes. i'm trying to take more liquid foods like soups and juices and plain soaked nuts and seeds as i can only really eat these at the moment. i also got the worst ever flare up of a small ezxema (sp?) patch that i've had for years, but now it;s ok, so i'm def feeling the detox. i woke at 4am today cause i felt so nauseas. (sorry can't spell), can't wait til i've reached the 3 month point.

Unless you drink wheatgrass/greens drink all day, its hard to avoid the detox symptoms, but you are definitely on the right track.

i'm also taking coco oil straight as it's anti-fungal, great for killing off bacteria in the body. aside from the detox, looking fresher more alive, lots more energy too, as i'm typing my sis just asked me what i'm doing cause more radiant - so that's a reason alone to continue everyone! :D it must be all the nutrients and absence of phytates in my food. hope it's going well for e/body else. x.
:D


coco oil is very good and anti fungal as you say. I started taking it again recently and actually got a little bit of nausea (i spelt it better than you :p)
so it defoo kills off bad stuff in the gut. Great that others are noticing - reprazent da alklaine massif! :cool:

domathy
02-07-2011, 07:15 PM
Just wanted to share a great recipe I found online....it has lemons and asparagus which I looked up and it says are good for alkalizing. The cheese probably is acidic but it is only a small amount and you could use less or skip it. I used mozarella like in the comments on the page because I don't like parmesan.

http://www.vegetarianliving.co.uk/recipes.php?do=view&recipe=141

I love lemon and apsaragus as a combo. You can use wheat free pasta too.
I'll try and post some recepie suggestions too - but thats not my field as am lazy in the kitchen and just eat simple meals. But thanks for the post, looks yum :)

domathy
02-07-2011, 07:15 PM
oui :D

If youre not careful i'll post a pic with a smile on my face :eek:

domathy
02-07-2011, 08:15 PM
Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35WdoCayCFw and his channel Earthshiftproject!

Hey, thats a great vid! He's living the dream :)

If only they taught us this at school. Chemistry lessons would be so much more fun :)

domathy
03-07-2011, 06:23 PM
It may well be Domathy, I know our thoughts seem to influence our environment, especially when heightened by using emotion but the numbers seem to be an addition...like a road map or confirmation to thoughts et al....If that makes sense.


Anywho....neat eh HAHAHAHAHA :D:D


So, its Sunday, appraisal day.
How the hell did you do? :D

pheony
03-07-2011, 07:11 PM
Does anyone here really know their stuff when it comes to food/effects on the body etc.....I have a condition that i'm really struggling with at the moment. For the most part i can keep it under control but i've been quite ill for the last week. It's not only food that affects me as other factors can be involved but food plays a great part. Histamine rich foods are not good for me and make me very ill.:)

domathy
03-07-2011, 07:26 PM
ooooh, we were just talking about number synchronicities a few pages back. Especially the number 11. You posted at 11:11. So reads 2011 11:11 - well done :D

Feel free to PM me of just ask on the thread and I/we will do our best to help.

scottishryan
03-07-2011, 08:47 PM
So, its Sunday, appraisal day.
How the hell did you do? :D

Hahahahaha I buggered up this weekend but not all lost, that was a fortnight break from Alcohol till Friday but wine (at least it was not spirits or beer :p) entered the temple :D I had a couple of glasses of it last night too :o

Food wise I am still on the green juices, no Ill affects from the Alcohol really but Bicarb water etc has been the saviour there. Eating salads mostly but have had them on nan bread which is naughty but luckily when I do, I eat half of it and they are small. So I would say a little slip but goodness You feel the difference eh? Not recommended at all..... I would say my slip still kept me at a good 70/30 in favour of alkalising foods. Absolutely no faltering on the green juice, wheat-grass juice and bicarb water...these are becoming built in habits.

If I could now take a big run at it without alcohol for a while (or even if possible) and keep reducing acidic foods slowly I reckon I may be able to hit the sweet spot! :D

lulushka8
03-07-2011, 09:15 PM
that's brilliant Ryan, half a nan bread's not bad at all when you're having all that green juice, wheatgrass and salads. don't feel bad about the alcohol/bread, you're still going in the right direction, and imo better to take it slowly than jump in the deep end (if you're anything like me or lack willpower). bread's always been my downfall as well. maybe for next time you can shop around for some spelt/sprouted bread from your local health store. the sprouted bread's a bit weird, sweet and dense, takes a bit of getting used to, but regular spelt bread's v nice. you could also make some of your own if you've got a breadmaker, that's what i do when not so lazy. :)

knewt01
03-07-2011, 09:24 PM
that's brilliant Ryan, half a nan bread's not bad at all when you're having all that green juice, wheatgrass and salads. don't feel bad about the alcohol/bread, you're still going in the right direction, and imo better to take it slowly than jump in the deep end (if you're anything like me or lack willpower). bread's always been my downfall as well. maybe for next time you can shop around for some spelt/sprouted bread from your local health store. the sprouted bread's a bit weird, sweet and dense, takes a bit of getting used to, but regular spelt bread's v nice. you could also make some of your own if you've got a breadmaker, that's what i do when not so lazy. :)

This.

And I have been promoting your lovely e-book to all my fat friends by the way ryan. They have responded very well to it but a lot of them are not really focusing on the intent/emotions attached to food and eating at the moment, so not sure they will make a go of it just yet. Still, they now have it so it may just sit on their computer until they are ready.

EDIT: When I say "all my fat friends" I actually mean the friends I have that consider themselves overweight and that often talk to me about it, me being overweight too. Before I get lynched. :o

domathy
03-07-2011, 09:36 PM
that's brilliant Ryan, half a nan bread's not bad at all when you're having all that green juice, wheatgrass and salads. don't feel bad about the alcohol/bread, you're still going in the right direction, and imo better to take it slowly than jump in the deep end (if you're anything like me or lack willpower). bread's always been my downfall as well. maybe for next time you can shop around for some spelt/sprouted bread from your local health store. the sprouted bread's a bit weird, sweet and dense, takes a bit of getting used to, but regular spelt bread's v nice. you could also make some of your own if you've got a breadmaker, that's what i do when not so lazy. :)

Please stop being nice to Ryan.

He has sinned and shall be punished.

I will sleep on this and will talk tomorrow. :p

pheony
03-07-2011, 09:40 PM
ooooh, we were just talking about number synchronicities a few pages back. Especially the number 11. You posted at 11:11. So reads 2011 11:11 - well done :D

Feel free to PM me of just ask on the thread and I/we will do our best to help.

If this post was for me.....I will pm you tomorrow...if thats ok.:)

scottishryan
03-07-2011, 09:40 PM
that's brilliant Ryan, half a nan bread's not bad at all when you're having all that green juice, wheatgrass and salads. don't feel bad about the alcohol/bread, you're still going in the right direction, and imo better to take it slowly than jump in the deep end (if you're anything like me or lack willpower). bread's always been my downfall as well. maybe for next time you can shop around for some spelt/sprouted bread from your local health store. the sprouted bread's a bit weird, sweet and dense, takes a bit of getting used to, but regular spelt bread's v nice. you could also make some of your own if you've got a breadmaker, that's what i do when not so lazy. :)

Thanks :)

I actually have a bread maker and Spelt flour in the cupboard...need to get my lazy ass in gear tomorrow morning and make a loaf I think :D Bread is a hard one for me too, it always has been really. Garlic Nan breads are going to be my trouble ....I think I was one in a past life Hhaahhahahaaha

The good outweighs the bad though...Lost a couple of exercise sessions over the weekend which is bad....its the knock on affect from drinking...everything goes to pot after it! I was on a roll too!

If I pre-prepare my food too, I have found I flow easily though this way of eating. Make my soups in the morning, get bread made with the spelt flour and prepare salads and store for later I am golden.

knewt01

Massive thanks! I truly hope it helps them when they are ready. I absolutely hate the thought of people struggling with weight when a simple tweaking of how they eat can free them up mentally and physically....later down the line when all the weight has gone it can be tweaked even further to what we are doing here...like stepping stones :D I can tell you one thing...the past fortnight I have easily reduce more body fat around my stomach...I noticed it before my weekend indulgence. ;)

lulushka8
03-07-2011, 09:41 PM
Please stop being nice to Ryan.

He has sinned and shall be punished.

I will sleep on this and will talk tomorrow.

ha! teacher's just jelous cause ryan's getting all the attention! :p

scottishryan
03-07-2011, 09:45 PM
please stop being nice to ryan.

He has sinned and shall be punished.

I will sleep on this and will talk tomorrow. :p

:D lmao :D

peaceloveunity
04-07-2011, 09:53 AM
Thanks domathy / lulushka8 :cool:

jconnar
04-07-2011, 11:16 AM
Just drank the juice of 4 lemons. Ate 2 grapefruits.

scottishryan
04-07-2011, 12:08 PM
Just drank the juice of 4 lemons. Ate 2 grapefruits.

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/dennismytern/gurn-1.jpg

:D:D:D:D

knewt01
04-07-2011, 02:38 PM
It's nice in here, isn't it? No racism, homophobia, general hatred or fear-mongering.

Just good, old-fashioned, common-sense advice.

The health bits are really the only bits I read on here any more.

Mind if I have a fag (American Spirit, obviously) in the corner before daddy Dom gets back to chastise Ryan? I'll blow it out the window, promise.

domathy
04-07-2011, 03:56 PM
Hahahahaha I buggered up this weekend but not all lost, that was a fortnight break from Alcohol till Friday but wine (at least it was not spirits or beer :p) entered the temple :D I had a couple of glasses of it last night too :o

Food wise I am still on the green juices, no Ill affects from the Alcohol really but Bicarb water etc has been the saviour there. Eating salads mostly but have had them on nan bread which is naughty but luckily when I do, I eat half of it and they are small. So I would say a little slip but goodness You feel the difference eh? Not recommended at all..... I would say my slip still kept me at a good 70/30 in favour of alkalising foods. Absolutely no faltering on the green juice, wheat-grass juice and bicarb water...these are becoming built in habits.

If I could now take a big run at it without alcohol for a while (or even if possible) and keep reducing acidic foods slowly I reckon I may be able to hit the sweet spot! :D

I woke up in a good mood, and looks like you learned your lesson - so welcome back on the wagon!

But seriously, youre doing well and so just keep pushing on. The fact that you are making positive habits is the main thing. Its best to just focus on adding good stuff to your diet and focus on building new habits, instead of resisting temptations too much. What you resist persists and all that. Its kind of a winding path anyway - but you are very much headed in the right direction.

Now, 100 hail marys. :D

leon11
04-07-2011, 04:16 PM
It's nice in here, isn't it? No racism, homophobia, general hatred or fear-mongering.

Just good, old-fashioned, common-sense advice.

The health bits are really the only bits I read on here any more.

Mind if I have a fag (American Spirit, obviously) in the corner before daddy Dom gets back to chastise Ryan? I'll blow it out the window, promise.

definitely good vibes here yes, it is a nice change!

I ran out of american spirit so back on the amber leaf =/ dont tell dom tho

domathy
04-07-2011, 04:16 PM
that's brilliant Ryan, half a nan bread's not bad at all when you're having all that green juice, wheatgrass and salads. don't feel bad about the alcohol/bread, you're still going in the right direction, and imo better to take it slowly than jump in the deep end (if you're anything like me or lack willpower). bread's always been my downfall as well. maybe for next time you can shop around for some spelt/sprouted bread from your local health store. the sprouted bread's a bit weird, sweet and dense, takes a bit of getting used to, but regular spelt bread's v nice. you could also make some of your own if you've got a breadmaker, that's what i do when not so lazy. :)

Good advice (you dont need me to tell you that :p). Spelt is way better than a nan.


This.

And I have been promoting your lovely e-book to all my fat friends by the way ryan. They have responded very well to it but a lot of them are not really focusing on the intent/emotions attached to food and eating at the moment, so not sure they will make a go of it just yet. Still, they now have it so it may just sit on their computer until they are ready.

EDIT: When I say "all my fat friends" I actually mean the friends I have that consider themselves overweight and that often talk to me about it, me being overweight too. Before I get lynched. :o

hahaha :D


If this post was for me.....I will pm you tomorrow...if thats ok.:)

Yes, pm me about it.

Thanks :)

I actually have a bread maker and Spelt flour in the cupboard...need to get my lazy ass in gear tomorrow morning and make a loaf I think :D Bread is a hard one for me too, it always has been really. Garlic Nan breads are going to be my trouble ....I think I was one in a past life Hhaahhahahaaha

Toasted spelt bread with garlic butter made from salt, garlic and melted coconut oil will hit the spot - i promise.

The good outweighs the bad though...Lost a couple of exercise sessions over the weekend which is bad....its the knock on affect from drinking...everything goes to pot after it! I was on a roll too!

If I pre-prepare my food too, I have found I flow easily though this way of eating. Make my soups in the morning, get bread made with the spelt flour and prepare salads and store for later I am golden.

Yes, preparation is important (talking to myself there too) Also, get some clay and stir it into your wine. Or sip clay in between sipping wine. It will cancel much of the acidity and poision of the alcohol (and no that is not license to drink wine all the time)
knewt01

Massive thanks! I truly hope it helps them when they are ready. I absolutely hate the thought of people struggling with weight when a simple tweaking of how they eat can free them up mentally and physically....later down the line when all the weight has gone it can be tweaked even further to what we are doing here...like stepping stones :D I can tell you one thing...the past fortnight I have easily reduce more body fat around my stomach...I noticed it before my weekend indulgence. ;)

I've been a bit busy with things but will be downloading your book too and am looking forward to reading and passing it on too.

leon11
04-07-2011, 04:20 PM
terminal cancer can be cured if you act on it (clean diet, alkalize and detox...)

apparently it takes 3 months for your red blood cells to regenerate after changing your lifestyle or going on a cleanse, and you're going to get worse before you get better cause of the dying yeast/bacteria in your body and detox. so give it 3 months.

since i only started about 2/3 weeks ago i'm now experiencing intermittent nausea, and intolerance to some veg like tomatoes. i'm trying to take more liquid foods like soups and juices and plain soaked nuts and seeds as i can only really eat these at the moment. i also got the worst ever flare up of a small ezxema (sp?) patch that i've had for years, but now it;s ok, so i'm def feeling the detox. i woke at 4am today cause i felt so nauseas. (sorry can't spell), can't wait til i've reached the 3 month point.

i'm also taking coco oil straight as it's anti-fungal, great for killing off bacteria in the body. aside from the detox, looking fresher more alive, lots more energy too, as i'm typing my sis just asked me what i'm doing cause more radiant - so that's a reason alone to continue everyone! :D it must be all the nutrients and absence of phytates in my food. hope it's going well for e/body else. x.
:D

yup I think Im slowly getting there now, but I definitely felt worse before I felt better (after starting alkalising). I think I had a lot of built up yeast and acid to buffer!
thanks for clarifying that as I thought I was the only one!

which coco oil do you take out of interest?

domathy
04-07-2011, 04:27 PM
Just drank the juice of 4 lemons. Ate 2 grapefruits.

Jeez, onto the grapefruits already :p

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/dennismytern/gurn-1.jpg

:D:D:D:D

Nah, thats from my dodgey garlic bread recepie :D

It's nice in here, isn't it? No racism, homophobia, general hatred or fear-mongering.

Just good, old-fashioned, common-sense advice.

The health bits are really the only bits I read on here any more.

Mind if I have a fag (American Spirit, obviously) in the corner before daddy Dom gets back to chastise Ryan? I'll blow it out the window, promise.

haha, i thought i could smell something :rolleyes:

definitely good vibes here yes, it is a nice change!

I ran out of american spirit so back on the amber leaf =/ dont tell dom tho

Eek, still better than golden vagina or nutters choice :eek:

domathy
04-07-2011, 04:28 PM
ha! teacher's just jelous cause ryan's getting all the attention! :p

Maybe :p

Can you really bake?

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 05:02 PM
Maybe

Can you really bake?

of course! there's no end to my talents.:p

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 05:15 PM
yup I think Im slowly getting there now, but I definitely felt worse before I felt better (after starting alkalising). I think I had a lot of built up yeast and acid to buffer!
thanks for clarifying that as I thought I was the only one!

which coco oil do you take out of interest?
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good you're noticing that. it can get very bad for some while they're getting all the crap out, it's because the toxins are being released into your bloodstream with nowhere to go, so it's good to sweat them out in a sauna, have a course of colonics:eek:, or just regular skin brushing and massage.

i've been buying this brand of coco oil for years now cause i know it's completely cold pressed, made from fresh (not dried/mould-ridden) coconuts in a small hygienic family owned processing plant. they are really ethical and have videos on the processing of their oil, they've also won awards and the taste is lovely, i've been eating coco oil on and off for about 7 years now, much nicer than butter when you add some salt to it. i used to live off wholemeal pittas and coco oil at one time. and yes Dr Dom i did used to bake it myself! :p

http://www.coconutty.co.uk/organic-coconut-oil-p-38.html

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 05:21 PM
Toasted spelt bread with garlic butter made from salt, garlic and melted coconut oil will hit the spot - i promise.

yeah i promise too. i also like to mix dried chives in, or you could use chopped parsley as well. also a bit of salt gives it a more buttery taste. just remember to refrigerate it if it's a warm day. no excuses for the nan bread now! :D

scottishryan
04-07-2011, 05:42 PM
I had another nan bread tonight :p:p It was a wee one that I decided to use up consciously and it was shouting on me. :D I actually had brown Basmati Rice and home-made chickpea curry to use some bits and bobs up.

I also made soup so that will do me tomorrow where as It will be just soup and green juices so as to clean myself out a bit. Plenty work in the garden today so been guzzling the Bicarb Water, green juices and my little heavy main meal but jeez I needed something due to excessive hunger....I should know better.

On the very bright side (since I am a cup half full guy) I am chuffed that my juicing and habits have changed massively. I am going to make those spelt bread pittas tomorrow and I can blend up some garlic butter (will get some nice fresh garlic tomorrow). Now the recipe I have for it involves using butter and olive oil....any suggestions for the butter substitute or should I just go as wholesome organic as possible? Need to remember some fresh herbs!!

No pissing around from me food wise...Need to get in the flow this week :p

All in all though...I feel pretty damn good! See after I drink my green juice & 100ml of wheat-grass in the morning...I am bouncing of the walls with energy :D

domathy
04-07-2011, 06:10 PM
of course! there's no end to my talents.:p

Someone give this girl a merit badge :)

good you're noticing that. it can get very bad for some while they're getting all the crap out, it's because the toxins are being released into your bloodstream with nowhere to go, so it's good to sweat them out in a sauna, have a course of colonics:eek:, or just regular skin brushing and massage.

Yep, anything to open up all routes of elimination is good. Even pumping a few gallons of starbucks up your bum.

i've been buying this brand of coco oil for years now cause i know it's completely cold pressed, made from fresh (not dried/mould-ridden) coconuts in a small hygienic family owned processing plant. they are really ethical and have videos on the processing of their oil, they've also won awards and the taste is lovely, i've been eating coco oil on and off for about 7 years now, much nicer than butter when you add some salt to it. i used to live off wholemeal pittas and coco oil at one time. and yes Dr Dom i did used to bake it myself! :p

http://www.coconutty.co.uk/organic-coconut-oil-p-38.html

That looks interesting. I use this one:
Coconut Connections Organic Virgin Coconut Oil 440ml: Amazon.co.uk: Grocery@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fI22oK9tL.@@AMEPARAM@@51fI22oK9tL

yeah i promise too. i also like to mix dried chives in, or you could use chopped parsley as well. also a bit of salt gives it a more buttery taste. just remember to refrigerate it if it's a warm day. no excuses for the nan bread now! :D

I knew id missed something - chives, parlsley are the finishing touch.

I had another nan bread tonight :p:p It was a wee one that I decided to use up consciously and it was shouting on me. :D I actually had brown Basmati Rice and home-made chickpea curry to use some bits and bobs up.

I also made soup so that will do me tomorrow where as It will be just soup and green juices so as to clean myself out a bit. Plenty work in the garden today so been guzzling the Bicarb Water, green juices and my little heavy main meal but jeez I needed something due to excessive hunger....I should know better.

Yeah, the healthier you get the more food your body will want for building blocks, especially when digging your moat in adavnce of the zombie invasion.
Hack up a head of broccoli and use that as a snack. Chew really thoroughly, like chewing gum. It will get raw nutrients into your body and youll find it will help keep you stable. Little and often is best. Youll feel really full if you down a load of raw broccoli. Take a few mins to chew each mouthful until it is totally chewed up.

On the very bright side (since I am a cup half full guy) I am chuffed that my juicing and habits have changed massively. I am going to make those spelt bread pittas tomorrow and I can blend up some garlic butter (will get some nice fresh garlic tomorrow). Now the recipe I have for it involves using butter and olive oil....any suggestions for the butter substitute or should I just go as wholesome organic as possible? Need to remember some fresh herbs!!

No pissing around from me food wise...Need to get in the flow this week :p

All in all though...I feel pretty damn good! See after I drink my green juice & 100ml of wheat-grass in the morning...I am bouncing of the walls with energy :D

Like Lulu and I said - use coconut oil. It works really well for making garlic bread. I dont eat garlic but I used to and coco oil works great.

Try the raw broccoli thing - youll thank me for it.

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 06:21 PM
That looks interesting. I use this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Coconut-Conn.../dp/B003UGCNIS

wow, coincidentally out of all the brands of coco oil on the market that's the one i used to use before Coconutty. it's a good one but comes in plastic, i reckon my one's better! :p

Like Lulu and I said - use coconut oil. It works really well for making garlic bread. I dont eat garlic but I used to and coco oil works great.

hmm, i haven't been using garlic either since i heard it kills off good bacteria as well as bad, and could stop you making B12, i was getting scared by those natural hygienists again, i might be very very wrong so not trying to scare anyone. :)

leon11
04-07-2011, 06:30 PM
good you're noticing that. it can get very bad for some while they're getting all the crap out, it's because the toxins are being released into your bloodstream with nowhere to go, so it's good to sweat them out in a sauna, have a course of colonics:eek:, or just regular skin brushing and massage.

i've been buying this brand of coco oil for years now cause i know it's completely cold pressed, made from fresh (not dried/mould-ridden) coconuts in a small hygienic family owned processing plant. they are really ethical and have videos on the processing of their oil, they've also won awards and the taste is lovely, i've been eating coco oil on and off for about 7 years now, much nicer than butter when you add some salt to it. i used to live off wholemeal pittas and coco oil at one time. and yes Dr Dom i did used to bake it myself! :p

http://www.coconutty.co.uk/organic-coconut-oil-p-38.html

yeh I wish I could afford to have a few weeks off work and really focus on the transition, but for the time being I'll just have to take it slowly and do my best at juggling everything...although it can be a bit tricky.

I was considerin colonics but Ive read it can be a bit intense for your system? too much at once? Not to mention it may be somewhat mentally scarring!
I'll go find a sauna ;)

thanks for the link

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 06:31 PM
On the very bright side (since I am a cup half full guy) I am chuffed that my juicing and habits have changed massively. I am going to make those spelt bread pittas tomorrow and I can blend up some garlic butter (will get some nice fresh garlic tomorrow). Now the recipe I have for it involves using butter and olive oil....any suggestions for the butter substitute or should I just go as wholesome organic as possible? Need to remember some fresh herbs!!

Ryan, you don't need the butter or oil, just mix up some coco oil with a pinch of salt (for things like this i use herbamare salt - cheap too) add some herbs of your choice (chives are really good), and chill in the fridge. :D it's nice when the bread's warm so the oil just melts but doesn't cook.

for the spelt pittas just use the flour, salt, water and bicarb, you can mix it quickly by hand or use a mixer, flatten into ovals and bake in a hot oven for a few minutes - you'll see them quickly puff up. you can also baste them with oil and sprinkle on some nigella seeds to make them more nan like if you want. :)

domathy
04-07-2011, 07:16 PM
wow, coincidentally out of all the brands of coco oil on the market that's the one i used to use before Coconutty. it's a good one but comes in plastic, i reckon my one's better! :p

Impudent child! Thinks she knows better :mad:
Retract the merit badge!!!

hmm, i haven't been using garlic either since i heard it kills off good bacteria as well as bad, and could stop you making B12, i was getting scared by those natural hygienists again, i might be very very wrong so not trying to scare anyone. :)

Don't count your chickens Knewt, I think we found ourselves a fearmonger!! (i think she might be racist and homophobic too)

domathy
04-07-2011, 07:21 PM
Ryan, you don't need the butter or oil, just mix up some coco oil with a pinch of salt (for things like this i use herbamare salt - cheap too) add some herbs of your choice (chives are really good), and chill in the fridge. :D it's nice when the bread's warm so the oil just melts but doesn't cook.

for the spelt pittas just use the flour, salt, water and bicarb, you can mix it quickly by hand or use a mixer, flatten into ovals and bake in a hot oven for a few minutes - you'll see them quickly puff up. you can also baste them with oil and sprinkle on some nigella seeds to make them more nan like if you want. :)

Okay, well, have your merit badge back and then an extra one for the nigella seeds!!

hypnoticspectre
04-07-2011, 07:40 PM
anyone tried this stuff?

Udo's Choice Beyond Greens

http://www.udoschoice.co.uk/beyondgreens.html

supposedly athletes use it to go faster ;)

domathy
04-07-2011, 07:50 PM
anyone tried this stuff?

Udo's Choice Beyond Greens

http://www.udoschoice.co.uk/beyondgreens.html

supposedly athletes use it to go faster ;)

Udo's oil is truly brilliant, but due to its success and popularity of the oil they trade off the name and created a line of products, like the beyondgreens formula, which are not very good. It has loads of stuff which is not alklaizing like enzymes and probiotics and is proton saturated.

Go for a greens product which is made from leaves and grasses and which is micro ionized. Dr Youngs products are all good (doc broc greens, pH miracle greens, or supergreens are all ionized - just google for reviews)
I use a different company and am expecting a delivery any day soon so will maybe post a video once the greens arrive.

Udo's oil is great, but all the other Udos products are overpriced. You would be better off eating a small amount of raw broccoli per day.

hypnoticspectre
04-07-2011, 08:05 PM
Ordered some Udo oil - yet to be delivered but cant wait. Since I stopped drinking me ole joints are giving a bit of jip , nowt too painful but noticeable :(

Feel like being sick when I eat raw broc/cauli but i am getting into making coleslaw so maybe ill just grate the green bits into it..

Thanks for the Tips all on this thread, very much appreciated :)

scottishryan
04-07-2011, 08:32 PM
Ryan, you don't need the butter or oil, just mix up some coco oil with a pinch of salt (for things like this i use herbamare salt - cheap too) add some herbs of your choice (chives are really good), and chill in the fridge. :D it's nice when the bread's warm so the oil just melts but doesn't cook.

for the spelt pittas just use the flour, salt, water and bicarb, you can mix it quickly by hand or use a mixer, flatten into ovals and bake in a hot oven for a few minutes - you'll see them quickly puff up. you can also baste them with oil and sprinkle on some nigella seeds to make them more nan like if you want. :)

Right! I am buying Coconut Oil tomorrow from the health store!1 This could be a really magnificent alternative and in conjunction with the spelt bread and pitta it will transform my eating plan and mindset :D:D:D:D What a fantastic thread this is!! Domathy, took all your advice on board too and will try the raw Broccoli...doing so much garden work just now that its handy to have something to take the edge of hunger in-between without going OTT

OK since we are on a roll....Alternative to Mayonnaise (Im thinking Garlic Mayo dressings) how can we expand this one.

The now I am using lemon juice and sea salt or a chilli sauce.

I could live from spelt pitta salads with lovely sauce dressings MMMMMM :D

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 08:33 PM
Feel like being sick when I eat raw broc/cauli but i am getting into making coleslaw so maybe ill just grate the green bits into it..

if you want to make a healthier coleslaw you could use avocado & lemon instead of the mayo, it's really nice like that. just a suggestion. :)

scottishryan
04-07-2011, 08:34 PM
if you want to make a healthier coleslaw you could use avocado & lemon instead of the mayo, it's really nice like that. just a suggestion. :)

Ha....there is a synchronicity for you :p:D:D

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 08:36 PM
OK since we are on a roll....Alternative to Mayonnaise (Im thinking Garlic Mayo dressings) how can we expand this one.


i don't think i've ever had mayo (weird childhood phobia:confused:), but a mashed up avo with lemon juice is very nice. i like to add seaweed like dulse in as well, but i know that's not everone's cup of tea.

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 08:37 PM
Ha....there is a synchronicity for you

ha! posting at same time! :D

scottishryan
04-07-2011, 08:39 PM
i don't think i've ever had mayo (weird childhood phobia:confused:), but a mashed up avo with lemon juice is very nice. i like to add seaweed like dulse in as well, but i know that's not everone's cup of tea.

I might play around in the kitchen...I am thinking....

Garlic Butter made with Coconut Oil and little salt as my base for breads and in addition I can use some by adding it to mashed up avocado, lemon Juice and just add mixed herbs. Worth a try :D

scottishryan
04-07-2011, 08:40 PM
we're posting at same time! :d

:d:d:d

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 08:45 PM
Don't count your chickens Knewt, I think we found ourselves a fearmonger!! (i think she might be racist and homophobic too)

ever the charmer.

lulushka8
04-07-2011, 08:51 PM
I might play around in the kitchen...I am thinking....

Garlic Butter made with Coconut Oil and little salt as my base for breads and in addition I can use some by adding it to mashed up avocado, lemon Juice and just add mixed herbs. Worth a try

sounds good ryan. you could experiment with different veggies too, or try creating different textures. when i was raw i had this spiraliser to make spaghetti from courgettes, the different textures you create by blending/chopping/spiralling make the food a lot more interesting and appealing. :)

scottishryan
04-07-2011, 09:04 PM
sounds good ryan. you could experiment with different veggies too, or try creating different textures. when i was raw i had this spiraliser to make spaghetti from courgettes, the different textures you create by blending/chopping/spiralling make the food a lot more interesting and appealing. :)

Sounds like a plan, thanks lulushka8 :):)

domathy
04-07-2011, 10:15 PM
if you want to make a healthier coleslaw you could use avocado & lemon instead of the mayo, it's really nice like that. just a suggestion. :)

YEah, avo and lemon works well. Guacamole in genreral is awesome.
Mashed up avo with lemon, salt, tomato and anything really. Works great on spelt toast/pita.

domathy
05-07-2011, 10:45 AM
hmm, i haven't been using garlic either since i heard it kills off good bacteria as well as bad, and could stop you making B12, i was getting scared by those natural hygienists again, i might be very very wrong so not trying to scare anyone. :)


I just googled around and some people say that garlic does kill the good flora....but there are others who say it feed the good bacteria (oh the joys of nutrition) so Im not sure. Personally i find garlic too strong and harsh for my body and as with most spices i find it irritating and over stimulating.
But thats just me, and im more sensitive than most especially where food is concerned, but i reckon for most people that garlic is fine. I just get concenred when people talk about eating tons of raw garlic to cure ailments as they may be doing more harm than good.

leon11
05-07-2011, 05:25 PM
I realised I already had coconut oil actually btw guys...bout 10 tubs of the stuff! I just didnt think it was for eating?!
I got this stuff a lil while back (but will try the afforementioned ones next time):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100ml-ORGANIC-VIRGIN-COCONUT-OIL-Pure-Natural-Unrefined-/200618484165?pt=UK_HealthBeauty_Other_RL&hash=item2eb5cb21c5

it comes in plastic tubs unfortunately but it does say its unrefined and organic. We've just been using it for skin etc, but is this ok to eat do you think? I dont see why not but thought I best check


Love your quote btw ryan

Condemnation without Investigation is the highest for of Ignorance

I think you need to add an 'm' tho ;)

so very often I hear people dismissing and criticising things that they have done zero research on /dont have a clue about (and have instead entrusted their minds and opinions to the system)
pisses me off!

people think they know everything!

the irony

rant over =)

lulushka8
05-07-2011, 06:01 PM
I just googled around and some people say that garlic does kill the good flora....but there are others who say it feed the good bacteria (oh the joys of nutrition) so Im not sure. Personally i find garlic too strong and harsh for my body and as with most spices i find it irritating and over stimulating.
But thats just me, and im more sensitive than most especially where food is concerned, but i reckon for most people that garlic is fine. I just get concenred when people talk about eating tons of raw garlic to cure ailments as they may be doing more harm than good.

i don't use spices either apart from occasional tumeric, cinnamon and pepper. but it's mainly because spices are stimulants, and i'm trying to protect my adrenals from all types of stimulant. also i find my skin looks better when i don't cook with spices, and i sleep a lot better too. i think herbs are excellent though, very cleansing and protective.

lulushka8
05-07-2011, 06:05 PM
I realised I already had coconut oil actually btw guys...bout 10 tubs of the stuff! I just didnt think it was for eating?!
I got this stuff a lil while back (but will try the afforementioned ones next time):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100ml-ORGA...item2eb5cb21c5

it comes in plastic tubs unfortunately but it does say its unrefined and organic. We've just been using it for skin etc, but is this ok to eat do you think? I dont see why not but thought I best check



well it says it's food grade so i think you'll be ok. ;)

domathy
05-07-2011, 08:09 PM
I realised I already had coconut oil actually btw guys...bout 10 tubs of the stuff! I just didnt think it was for eating?!
I got this stuff a lil while back (but will try the afforementioned ones next time):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100ml-ORGANIC-VIRGIN-COCONUT-OIL-Pure-Natural-Unrefined-/200618484165?pt=UK_HealthBeauty_Other_RL&hash=item2eb5cb21c5

it comes in plastic tubs unfortunately but it does say its unrefined and organic. We've just been using it for skin etc, but is this ok to eat do you think? I dont see why not but thought I best check


Love your quote btw ryan

Condemnation without Investigation is the highest for of Ignorance

I think you need to add an 'm' tho ;)

so very often I hear people dismissing and criticising things that they have done zero research on /dont have a clue about (and have instead entrusted their minds and opinions to the system)
pisses me off!

people think they know everything!

the irony

rant over =)

I know, annoying innit :rolleyes:

i don't use spices either apart from occasional tumeric, cinnamon and pepper. but it's mainly because spices are stimulants, and i'm trying to protect my adrenals from all types of stimulant. also i find my skin looks better when i don't cook with spices, and i sleep a lot better too. i think herbs are excellent though, very cleansing and protective.

Yes, herbs are great. But i dont sleep good at all if i eat spicey stuff.

domathy
05-07-2011, 08:47 PM
I made lemonade today and it was amazzin.

1 part water to 1 part fresh lemon juice - then add some bicarb and stir.

It turns sweet and bubbly - very nice :)

carlperkins
05-07-2011, 09:36 PM
Interesting thread, I wish I'd found it before it got to 43 pages. My sinuses have been so blocked I feel they are killing me. I've completely given up booze two weeks ago, they cleared a bit but relapsed yesterday with a vengeance. I'm also stopping milk and cheese. So you reckon lemon juice is okay, huh? What about oats and apple juice for breakfast with chopped dried and fresh fruits? Yogurt? What about Feta cheese in a salad? Which are the most relevant pages on the thread?

leon11
05-07-2011, 11:47 PM
Interesting thread, I wish I'd found it before it got to 43 pages. My sinuses have been so blocked I feel they are killing me. I've completely given up booze two weeks ago, they cleared a bit but relapsed yesterday with a vengeance. I'm also stopping milk and cheese. So you reckon lemon juice is okay, huh? What about oats and apple juice for breakfast with chopped dried and fresh fruits? Yogurt? What about Feta cheese in a salad? Which are the most relevant pages on the thread?

Domathy will help you more, but the main body of the info here is in the first ten pages I reckon...and his article is on page 1 which explains about the importance of alkalising if youve not seen that already.

To directly link alkalising to your problem - mucus transports acids out of the body, so you may be creating a lot of mucus to counter-act a problem with your acidity levels (a problem which many people have and one which rears its ugly head in a variety of ways!).

As Domathy has explained to me, we often get colds and flus, and get full up with mucus, as a natural defense to acidity....to cleanse our body.

I have sinus problems too and personally speaking I think cutting out the dairy (including yoghurt and cheese) will help that and your general health, especially if you are at all sensitive to these things.
Do you have any skin problems, rashes?
I think over-acidity, as well as dairy allergies, is usually visible in the skin, I may be wrong tho!

When you are able to breath through your nostrils again, a periodic sinus cleanse using a Neti pot (with pure water and a good salt) should help a lot.

Plus fresh air and plenty of water also of course =)

leon11
05-07-2011, 11:48 PM
I made lemonade today and it was amazzin.

1 part water to 1 part fresh lemon juice - then add some bicarb and stir.

It turns sweet and bubbly - very nice :)


simple yet effective!

scottishryan
06-07-2011, 06:20 AM
Interesting thread, I wish I'd found it before it got to 43 pages. My sinuses have been so blocked I feel they are killing me. I've completely given up booze two weeks ago, they cleared a bit but relapsed yesterday with a vengeance. I'm also stopping milk and cheese. So you reckon lemon juice is okay, huh? What about oats and apple juice for breakfast with chopped dried and fresh fruits? Yogurt? What about Feta cheese in a salad? Which are the most relevant pages on the thread?

Leon11 has hit it on the head in my experience! I will make a guess and say that your sinus problems are heightened after you drink alcohol?

I would suggest changing slowly and not beating yourself up if you do indulge in old favourites at times. Check out this link for list of Alkalising and acidic forming foods http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html

I have come on leaps and bounds in the last few weeks but still not near enough what I deem optimal....I am happy with the progress though and I do feel a massive difference.

oh and...Bicarb water is your friend...that will flush you out when you consume something a little too acidic :D the big guy (Domathy) will be along shortly I am sure ;)

domathy
06-07-2011, 09:38 AM
Domathy will help you more, but the main body of the info here is in the first ten pages I reckon...and his article is on page 1 which explains about the importance of alkalising if youve not seen that already.

To directly link alkalising to your problem - mucus transports acids out of the body, so you may be creating a lot of mucus to counter-act a problem with your acidity levels (a problem which many people have and one which rears its ugly head in a variety of ways!).

As Domathy has explained to me, we often get colds and flus, and get full up with mucus, as a natural defense to acidity....to cleanse our body.

I have sinus problems too and personally speaking I think cutting out the dairy (including yoghurt and cheese) will help that and your general health, especially if you are at all sensitive to these things.
Do you have any skin problems, rashes?
I think over-acidity, as well as dairy allergies, is usually visible in the skin, I may be wrong tho!

When you are able to breath through your nostrils again, a periodic sinus cleanse using a Neti pot (with pure water and a good salt) should help a lot.

Plus fresh air and plenty of water also of course =)

Leon11 has hit it on the head in my experience! I will make a guess and say that your sinus problems are heightened after you drink alcohol?

I would suggest changing slowly and not beating yourself up if you do indulge in old favourites at times. Check out this link for list of Alkalising and acidic forming foods http://www.balance-ph-diet.com/acid_alkaline_food_chart.html

I have come on leaps and bounds in the last few weeks but still not near enough what I deem optimal....I am happy with the progress though and I do feel a massive difference.

oh and...Bicarb water is your friend...that will flush you out when you consume something a little too acidic :D the big guy (Domathy) will be along shortly I am sure ;)


Haha :D Nice one guys. I have trained you well. My alkaline army will soon be complete (**evil laugh**)

Interesting thread, I wish I'd found it before it got to 43 pages. My sinuses have been so blocked I feel they are killing me. I've completely given up booze two weeks ago, they cleared a bit but relapsed yesterday with a vengeance. I'm also stopping milk and cheese. So you reckon lemon juice is okay, huh? What about oats and apple juice for breakfast with chopped dried and fresh fruits? Yogurt? What about Feta cheese in a salad? Which are the most relevant pages on the thread?


Hi Carl,
Just a comment on your food combinations:
Food combining:
Eating foods in the wrong combination will create extra acid, gas and bloating. For example fruit normally digests in about 30 minutes, but if the stomach is full of heavy food, then the fruit is forced to sit on top as it can’t get past to be absorbed. So it begins fermenting and this causes lots of acidity. Eating carbohydrates and meat at the same meal will cause a similar effect. Protein digestion requires an acid medium in the stomach and carbohydrate digestion requires an alkaline medium. When you eat meat and carbs together, the body releases both acid and alkaline digestive juices at the same time and these actually neutralize each other and neither the meat nor carbohydrates get properly digested, causing acid and stagnation. So eat fruit on an empty stomach. If you want to eat meat then it is best to eat with just vegetables and not with bread pasta or rice. Eat dairy alone and on an empty stomach.

So, maybe find a gluten free cereal and use soya or rice milk. Keep the dried fruit if you need to but reduce the amount to add to the cereal. If you want fruit juice you need to drink it at least 15 or 20 mins before you have cereal else it will interfere with digestion.

Hope that helps :)

akana
06-07-2011, 09:58 AM
Apologies for jumping into a 43 page thread without reading it first, but just in case no one has mentioned ACV - (organic) apple cider vinegar, as a means to alkalize the body, this is also a good remedy. ))

domathy
06-07-2011, 10:44 AM
Apologies for jumping into a 43 page thread without reading it first, but just in case no one has mentioned ACV - (organic) apple cider vinegar, as a means to alkalize the body, this is also a good remedy. ))

Hi Akana,

Is cider Vinegar good?
If one's colon is clogged full of undigested proteins then drinking vinegar will burn away some of this impacted rubbish/congestion so that the colon can 'breathe' a little better and you get a perceived benefit. My dad used cider vinegar for his arthritis (which, is largely caused by acid congestion in the colon which leads to acid deposits elsewhere) and he did get a short term benefit. But, if you continue to use it without addressing the root of the problem, you just end up burning healthy tissue with acidic vinegar. Also vinegar is proton saturated and pulls energy (electrons) from the body. Plus vinegar is a product of fermentation so should be avoided. Magnesium oxide is a perfect way to cleanse to colon of debris and you get the same benefit as vinegar plus loads of other benefits (alkalinity, electrons, oxygen) and without the damage caused by the vinegar. They say vinegar is high in potassium but avocados are a great source of potassium and they are alkaline forming and electron rich. Basically there are much better ways to cleanse the colon.

pH testing says fruit and cider vinegar are alkaline?
The traditional method of testing pH is flawed. They take the food and incinerate it and then test the ‘for mineral content. Fruit may be high in alkaline minerals as revealed by the ash method, but it is also, very high in sugar. Sugar acidifies the body, not least because it is like rocket fuel for yeast/candidia. But, with the ash method, all the sugar is burned and so this not taken into account. The same applies with ACV. It may have an alklaine mineral ash, but overall it is proton saturated and has an acidic effect in the body.

Hope that makes sense :)

akana
06-07-2011, 11:05 AM
Hi Akana,

Is cider Vinegar good?
The same applies with ACV. It may have an alklaine mineral ash, but overall it is proton saturated and has an acidic effect in the body.

Hope that makes sense :)

dang, that's some good info, domathy! why should fermented foods be avoided? some consider fermented veggies to be very healthy?

lulushka8
06-07-2011, 11:17 AM
...erm this is completely off topic but i've been having baked sweet potatoes in a bowl of coco oil for my lunch almost everyday now and it's so good i can't understand how it could be healthy, it's like comfort food. (Dom, please don't burst my bubble and say it's too starchy :mad:)

also has anyone noticed how sweet things like tomatoes and cucs are now? this is the longest i've gone without fruit and sugars in my life and my taste buds have changed, i was healthy before this but a complete fruit loop sugar junkie, but i can now appreciate the natural sweetness of other things. i don't miss fruit at all. (although i'll be avoiding my favourites figs & apricots all summer as i know i'll still be tempted).

welcome CarlP, personally my sinus problems cleared up immediately after giving up dairy (and i was eating raw sheeps dairy), so i know that might help a lot with your problems. :)

leon11
06-07-2011, 01:54 PM
Haha :D Nice one guys. I have trained you well. My alkaline army will soon be complete (**evil laugh**)

Hi Carl,
Just a comment on your food combinations:
Food combining:
Eating foods in the wrong combination will create extra acid, gas and bloating. For example fruit normally digests in about 30 minutes, but if the stomach is full of heavy food, then the fruit is forced to sit on top as it can’t get past to be absorbed. So it begins fermenting and this causes lots of acidity. Eating carbohydrates and meat at the same meal will cause a similar effect. Protein digestion requires an acid medium in the stomach and carbohydrate digestion requires an alkaline medium. When you eat meat and carbs together, the body releases both acid and alkaline digestive juices at the same time and these actually neutralize each other and neither the meat nor carbohydrates get properly digested, causing acid and stagnation. So eat fruit on an empty stomach. If you want to eat meat then it is best to eat with just vegetables and not with bread pasta or rice. Eat dairy alone and on an empty stomach.

So, maybe find a gluten free cereal and use soya or rice milk. Keep the dried fruit if you need to but reduce the amount to add to the cereal. If you want fruit juice you need to drink it at least 15 or 20 mins before you have cereal else it will interfere with digestion.

Hope that helps :)

interesting info on the food combos ive not read that on here before

do you remember me mentioning the Gracie-jujitsu diet Dom? He said that what you eat together is the most important factor. He was alkalising without possibly even realising it wasnt he?!

And sorry general, please correct me if im wrong but I did some research on soya a while back and the way it is farmed or processed now is supposed to be poisenous to us? (the ancients used soya but harvested it in a different way?). I'm not certain though.
Soya seems to be the mainstream solution to dairy intolerence, and for that reason Im not so sure about it!
After researching I came to the conclusion that almond milk is the way forward?

domathy
06-07-2011, 04:43 PM
dang, that's some good info, domathy! why should fermented foods be avoided? some consider fermented veggies to be very healthy?

Thanks. Problem with conventional nutrition info is people isolate nutrients in food so they see what they want to see. Fermented foods may have B-vitamins for example, but theres acid and mycotoxins too. Chocolate and wine may have antioxidants - but theres lots of acid and other stuff that aint good either. You need to look at food from different angles if you want an accurate picture. I could say bird shit is a superfood as its high in B-vitamins from the birds colon, and thats a good analogy for how people in the food industry operate and even in the field of alternative nutrition. Fermented vegies might be okay if someone has severe deficiencies, but think of it as the lesser of two evils. Its much better to just address the root of the problem and adopt a healthy diet in the long run. generally its best to avoid anything that is related to the compost cycle of life (mushrooms, yeast, algae and anything fermented) as these things will generally lower our health and energy levels

...erm this is completely off topic but i've been having baked sweet potatoes in a bowl of coco oil for my lunch almost everyday now and it's so good i can't understand how it could be healthy, it's like comfort food. (Dom, please don't burst my bubble and say it's too starchy :mad:)

Thats not off topic. And that sounds like lovely comfort food. Ive had spelt toast and coco butter a few times recently. But are you having greens too? A big bowl of steamed kale with coco oil and salt is amazing. Or, same but broccoli instead of Kale. Else youll just turn into a starchy coco couch potato (you are what you eat)

also has anyone noticed how sweet things like tomatoes and cucs are now? this is the longest i've gone without fruit and sugars in my life and my taste buds have changed, i was healthy before this but a complete fruit loop sugar junkie, but i can now appreciate the natural sweetness of other things. i don't miss fruit at all. (although i'll be avoiding my favourites figs & apricots all summer as i know i'll still be tempted).

Yes totally. Also red peppers are great. Its annoying too though as your taste buds become so sensititve and you can really spot how some veg just tases like water due to modern farming methods.

welcome CarlP, personally my sinus problems cleared up immediately after giving up dairy (and i was eating raw sheeps dairy), so i know that might help a lot with your problems. :)

That proves that even raw sheeps dairy is baaad.
interesting info on the food combos ive not read that on here before

do you remember me mentioning the Gracie-jujitsu diet Dom? He said that what you eat together is the most important factor. He was alkalising without possibly even realising it wasnt he?!

And i would totally agree. Many people have really improved their health just by focussing on food combining.

And sorry general, please correct me if im wrong but I did some research on soya a while back and the way it is farmed or processed now is supposed to be poisenous to us? (the ancients used soya but harvested it in a different way?). I'm not certain though.
Soya seems to be the mainstream solution to dairy intolerence, and for that reason Im not so sure about it!
After researching I came to the conclusion that almond milk is the way forward?

GM soya is total poison - and you should avoid GM soya as if it were... well im trying to think of something polite, never mind. The other issue as you are alluding to is the way its processed. Often they use Hexane, a chemical solvent made from petrochemicals, to extract the soya from the bean - and thats not great for you either. So, Im not toally sure. But, i need to research which soya milks if any, dont use hexane. Sprouted soya beans are great though.

lulushka8
06-07-2011, 07:16 PM
I made lemonade today and it was amazzin.

1 part water to 1 part fresh lemon juice - then add some bicarb and stir.

It turns sweet and bubbly - very nice

i copied you today, it was lovely, i used loads of lemon and a pinch of salt. plus i cheated a bit and added a few drops of stevia, i love it, i'm going to make it a regular thing now, thanks for the idea. :)

lulushka8
06-07-2011, 07:21 PM
Thats not off topic. And that sounds like lovely comfort food. Ive had spelt toast and coco butter a few times recently. But are you having greens too? A big bowl of steamed kale with coco oil and salt is amazing. Or, same but broccoli instead of Kale.

i love broccoli and eat it the same way (only steamed). never had kale, but will try it since you say it's nice.

Else youll just turn into a starchy coco couch potato (you are what you eat)

so... do you eat pickles with your spelt bread? as that would make you a sour-dill-dough. :D

domathy
06-07-2011, 08:32 PM
i copied you today, it was lovely, i used loads of lemon and a pinch of salt. plus i cheated a bit and added a few drops of stevia, i love it, i'm going to make it a regular thing now, thanks for the idea. :)

Ooh, i didnt think of stevia. Okay, we'll call it "Domathy Lemonade a la Lulu"
Did you add bicarb to make it fizzy?

i love broccoli and eat it the same way (only steamed). never had kale, but will try it since you say it's nice.

Kale is nice, but needs to be well steamed else youll have massive jaw muscles by the end.

so... do you eat pickles with your spelt bread? as that would make you a sour-dill-dough. :D

Why do I get the feeling youv'e been waiting for years for an opportunity to tell that joke?

(and there is always one in class to lower the tone. Dilldough indeed :rolleyes:) (but if were continuing the theme of you are what you eat - being a dilldough could be worse :))

lulushka8
06-07-2011, 08:40 PM
Ooh, i didnt think of stevia. Okay, we'll call it "Domathy Lemonade a la Lulu"
Did you add bicarb to make it fizzy?


catchy name. :D

of course i added the bicarb, i wouldn't be much of a copycat otherwise.

lulushka8
06-07-2011, 08:44 PM
Kale is nice, but needs to be well steamed else youll have massive jaw muscles by the end.


you've put me off, don't want to look like arnold shwartzshagger

Why do I get the feeling youv'e been waiting for years for an opportunity to tell that joke?

(and there is always one in class to lower the tone. Dilldough indeed ) (but if were continuing the theme of you are what you eat - being a dilldough could be worse )

haha! i just wanted to get back at you for calling me a coco couch potato head.:p

domathy
06-07-2011, 10:00 PM
you've put me off, don't want to look like arnold shwartzshagger

Or worse yet.....Arnold Schwartshagger with a coco dilldough in your mouth :eek:

haha! i just wanted to get back at you for calling me a coco couch potato head.:p

We'll need to be careful else the mods will breathing down our necks :p

scottishryan
06-07-2011, 10:26 PM
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/3/32/KennethWilliams.jpg/300px-KennethWilliams.jpg

:D:D:D

domathy
06-07-2011, 10:36 PM
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/3/32/KennethWilliams.jpg/300px-KennethWilliams.jpg

:D:D:D

:DClassic:D

akana
07-07-2011, 06:54 AM
Dr Robert Young on How to Test Your Body Ph Levels #455 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKP351Lcank

In this first installment, Dr. Robert Young explains how you should test your pH and what levels your urine, saliva and blood should be.

domathy
07-07-2011, 10:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKP351Lcank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKP351Lcank

In this first installment, Dr. Robert Young explains how you should test your pH and what levels your urine, saliva and blood should be.

Thanks Akana,
Ive never seen that before.

The thing with Dr Young is, he has a great way of making something quite simple sound very complicated and boring. I understand exactly what he is saying because i have studied his research and trained with him, but i cant help thinking that most people will watch this and wonder what the hell he's talking about :D

EDIT: I like the look of that youtube channel so will check out more of their vids. Thanks for the post :)

akana
07-07-2011, 10:24 AM
Thanks Akana,
Ive never seen that before.

The thing with Dr Young is, he has a great way of making something quite simple sound very complicated and boring. I understand exactly what he is saying because i have studied his research and trained with him, but i cant help thinking that most people will watch this and wonder what the hell he's talking about :D

EDIT: I like the look of that youtube channel so will check out more of their vids. Thanks for the post :)

No doubt, they have great raw recipe uploads!

BTW - your scribd document changed my life. going 100% alkaline diet starting ASAP. gratitude and may jah bestow his blessings upon you

domathy
07-07-2011, 03:47 PM
No doubt, they have great raw recipe uploads!

BTW - your scribd document changed my life. going 100% alkaline diet starting ASAP. gratitude and may jah bestow his blessings upon you

Your'e very welcome Akana :)

Good luck with changing your diet too.

Thanks :D

EDIT: Post #444 then looked at the clock it said 16:44 (4:44)

444 means: "There are angels - they're everywhere around you! You are completely loved, support, and guided by many Heavenly beings, and you have nothing to fear."
(apparently lol)

domathy
07-07-2011, 08:08 PM
Apparently every single human has a misaligned atlas (due to genetic manipulation). I had the treatment described in this video and really reccomend the procedure. I noticed lots of benefits but generally just felt more balanced. Im pretty sure it helps with pH as it aids circulation too:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

carlperkins
07-07-2011, 08:19 PM
I've just re-read the aticle in the OP more carefully this time, very interesting indeed. Useful pictures too. I'm 49, had some truama to deal with about eight years ago that sent my mind a bit sideways, resulted in me forming eczma, asthma, and now a sinus problem that gets worse with time. I've been a heavy drinker over the years, overweight too. I used to notice my sinus would block after a drinking spree but would clear after a few days of abstinence. This no longer happens, and my life has become unbearable with the discomfort and also now lack of sleep at night due to breathing issues. Being at work is becoming more embarissing with sneezing fits etc. I am now so determined to get well without using prescribed drugs, I have kicked the booze, three weeks this weekend, (not missing it a bit!) and now since reading this thread I've also stopped coffee, two days ago, no dairy now (although I've always eaten a lot of yogurt) and am making plans to shop for lots of greens (again!). Thanks for the very clear article, I'll keep you informed of my progress. I can see it may take a while to adjust the diet one step at a time. Tonight I tried my first "lemonade" with bicarbonate soda, and it was really nice!

Cheers!
CP

domathy
07-07-2011, 09:42 PM
I've just re-read the aticle in the OP more carefully this time, very interesting indeed. Useful pictures too. I'm 49, had some truama to deal with about eight years ago that sent my mind a bit sideways, resulted in me forming eczma, asthma, and now a sinus problem that gets worse with time. I've been a heavy drinker over the years, overweight too. I used to notice my sinus would block after a drinking spree but would clear after a few days of abstinence. This no longer happens, and my life has become unbearable with the discomfort and also now lack of sleep at night due to breathing issues. Being at work is becoming more embarissing with sneezing fits etc. I am now so determined to get well without using prescribed drugs, I have kicked the booze, three weeks this weekend, (not missing it a bit!) and now since reading this thread I've also stopped coffee, two days ago, no dairy now (although I've always eaten a lot of yogurt) and am making plans to shop for lots of greens (again!). Thanks for the very clear article, I'll keep you informed of my progress. I can see it may take a while to adjust the diet one step at a time. Tonight I tried my first "lemonade" with bicarbonate soda, and it was really nice!

Cheers!
CP

Hey, good work so far!! :D

Keep drinking the lemonade it will really help to alklaize and cleanse your system.

I will try and put together some info about the best supplements to use and some other short-cuts so stay tuned to this thread.

Keep us posted on you progress :)

plam
07-07-2011, 10:21 PM
Less Dairy:
Dairy products should be avoided because of their lactose (milk sugar) content as well as the presence of yeast and fungus, molds, and their by-products. Also, due to the high sugar and fat content of dairy products, the fact that dairy cows are fed stored grains and fungal-based antibiotics, and the fermentation process of cheese and yogurt, all dairy products should ideally be eventually eliminated from the diet. Dairy is highly mucus forming. Calcium can be obtained from green leafy vegetables, green drinks, collards, broccoli, okra, salmon, etc.

This part is misleading.

1. Raw milk contains enzymes and lactase-producing bacteria to break down the milk sugar lactose.

2. Fermented milk like yogurt and kefir are very law in lactose.

As a whole I do not approve of domathy's advises for eliminating completely of certain group of foods, like dairy, fruits or meat for example.

The ideal acid-alkaline ratio is 1:4. Depending on your personal conditions you can eat acidifying foods so long as you balance the with 4 times the alkalising ones.

That's the whole philosophy about pH balance, going into extremes is unhealthy. Just find a good pH chart which list all foods to form a balance diet.

domathy
07-07-2011, 10:31 PM
This part is misleading.

1. Raw milk contains enzymes and lactase-producing bacteria to break down the milk sugar lactose.

2. Fermented milk like yogurt and kefir are very law in lactose.

As a whole I do not approve of domathy's advises for eliminating completely of certain group of foods, like dairy, fruits or meat for example.

The ideal acid-alkaline ratio is 1:4. Depending on your personal conditions you can eat acidifying foods so long as you balance the with 4 times the alkalising ones.

That's the whole philosophy about pH balance, going into extremes is unhealthy. Just find a good pH chart which list all foods to form a balance diet.

Raw dairy is fine, provided it is from pasture fed livestock (not fed fungal corn and grains). Though if someone has a health challenge they will progress much faster when they eliminate all sources of sugar and adopt a 100% alkaline diet for a period of time. Thats not as extreme as you may believe - its really quite safe and normal.

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Here is a list of the main acid forming factors with details of why they should be reduced in your diet. You will notice that the reason to avoid many foods is not because they are naturally bad, but rather because of the way the foods are produced, stored or processed in today’s modern world. (These foods should ideally be eliminated if you have a health challenge that you want to get rid of quickly)

Food combining:
Eating foods in the wrong combination will create extra acid, gas and bloating. For example fruit normally digests in about 30 minutes, but if the stomach is full of heavy food, then the fruit is forced to sit on top as it can’t get past to be absorbed. So it begins fermenting and this causes lots of acidity. Eating carbohydrates and meat at the same meal will cause a similar effect. Protein digestion requires an acid medium in the stomach and carbohydrate digestion requires an alkaline medium. When you eat meat and carbs together, the body releases both acid and alkaline digestive juices at the same time and these actually neutralize each other and neither the meat nor carbohydrates get properly digested, causing acid and stagnation. So eat fruit on an empty stomach. If you want to eat meat then it is best to eat with just vegetables and not with bread pasta or rice. Eat dairy alone and on an empty stomach.

Cooked food:
Ideally you should include some raw vegetables in your diet even if its only salad and avocado. Vegetables are alkaline and electron rich, but become more acidic and more proton saturated when you over cook it. Steamed or lightly cooked vegetables are very good, but just avoid really cooking it to death.

Cooked oils:
Try to avoid cooking with oils due to the fact that heat oxidizes the oil. Try using extra virgin coconut oil for cooking as it is much more stable and tolerates cooking temperatures without oxidizing. Steam fry your food and then add oil right at the end.

Sugar:
Sugar is like rocket fuel for yeast and is very acidic. However it is better to use sugar than to use artificial sweeteners. Aspartame for example is produced by feeding toxic materials to e-coli bacteria – the white powder produced by the bacteria is used to sweeten your coffee. The company that makes aspartame is the same company behind DDT and Agent Orange.
Sweet fruit has a lot of sugar (mangos, bananas, pineapples, grapes, oranges, apples, papaya, ) Most fruit is also genetically hybridised to make it sweeter. Also most fruit is picked before it is ripe (for transportation) which means it is more acidic. Fruit may have an alkaline pH, but the sugar content means it acidifies the body. Also avoid corn syrup, molasses and maple syrup.


Stored Grains, nuts and potatoes:
The problem with corn and many grains is the way in which they are stored. They are stored for so long and in such a way that they begin to ferment and turn fungal. The fungus is not destroyed by cooking temperatures and has been associated with many chronic diseases including cancer. Modern crops are also weaker due to human tampering which makes crops even more susceptible to fungus overgrowth. Fungal grains are more acid forming and the fungus contributes to a yeast overgrowth. Wheat, oats, barley, rye and corn tend to be the most fungal. These are also naturally the most acid forming grains anyway and so they should be replaced with grains detailed in Section 2. Many oils such as corn oil and other vegetable oils are very contaminated.

The same applies to peanuts and cashews. These should really be avoided because, due to modern farming and storage methods, they are very contaminated with fungus. (Practically ALL corn, peanuts and cashews are now contaminated) This is also because the surface of these foods is soft and fungus easily gets a foothold.

Potatoes are often contaminated with fungus. Sweet potatoes are great though.

Meat:
Meat is naturally acid forming and also livestock are mostly fed on stored grains (even organic livestock). The byproducts of the fermented grains accumulate in the fatty tissue of the livestock and these mycotoxins are not destroyed by cooking. Also, over 50% of the protein is denatured/destroyed by cooking. Humans are unable to fully digest meat. If eating meat, try to buy organic (no hormone or antibiotic injections) and eat with plenty of vegetables as the fiber will help sweep that acidity away and reduce fermentation. Pork is the most acid forming. Chicken, despite the healthy image, is also acid forming. Chickens do not have a separate urinary tract so much uric acid is re absorbed into the tissues – hence ‘juicy’ chicken.

Less Dairy:
Pasteurization removes any potential goodness in the milk by destroying enzymes and changing the molecular structure. Dairy is highly mucus forming and also the calcium is not compatible with the human body (hence why many doctors now say it does nothing to prevent osteoporosis). Dairy products should be avoided because of their lactose (milk sugar) content as well as the presence of yeast and fungus, molds, and their by-products. Also, due to the high sugar and fat content of dairy products, the fact that dairy cows are fed stored grains and fungal-based antibiotics, and the fermentation process of cheese and yogurt, all dairy products should ideally be eventually eliminated from the diet. Calcium can be obtained from green leafy vegetables, green drinks, collards, broccoli, okra, salmon, etc. Avoid milk, cheese, butter, yogurt, ice cream.

Eggs:
Due to chickens being fed fungal corn, most eggs have a high load of pathogenic microorganisms

Cut out the yeast:
Baked goods such as yeast breads, cakes and pastries should be avoided. According to the American Cancer Society, one out of nine American women will develop breast cancer by age 80. Research links it with the ingestion of baked goods and bakers or brewers yeast. Research also correlates diets containing yeast or fermented breads to gall stones, kidney stones and arthritis. Also avoid marmite and ‘nutritional’ yeast.

Tea, coffee, chocolate:
Tea, coffee and chocolate are all acid forming and contain caffeine. Decaf tea/coffee is not any better because they use formaldehyde to flush out the caffeine. Coffee and chocolate are also fermented. Also chocolate contains Theobromine which is a strong acid.

Alcohol:
Wine, beer, whiskey, brandy, gin, rum and vodka are purely mycotoxic. Alcohol is a fungus-produced mycotoxin made by yeast that causes direct injury to human health. If you want to drink alcohol then compensate with water and clay.

Mushrooms:
Mushrooms, algae, and truffles are all acid-forming foods. They contain mycotoxins which poison cells. Mushrooms in all forms are poisonous whether eaten whole or in teas. The mushroom is not a vegetable, but rather the fruiting body of a yeast or fungus. Also, note that corn and peanut, products have a high fungal content and should be avoided as well.

Condiments:
Soy sauce, mayonnaise, vinegar, ketchup. Avoid anything which is fermented or contains sugar, vinegar etc.


Avoid tobacco:
Tobacco leaves are coated with yeast, fungus, and mycotoxins, which poison the cells and tissues of the body. Research clearly reveals the pathway to cancer is the fermentation of the tobacco with yeast and sugar. When using tobacco, you are directly introducing dried fungus and wastes into your body. Also to prevent tobacco going moldy, manufactures introduce chemicals like formaldehyde and benzene as a preservative. Raw tobacco is not so bad.


Processed food
Try to avoid all processed food.



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Alkaline foods and other factors:

Stay Relaxed:
Emotional stress produces hydrochloric acid which is 3 x stronger than any dietary acids. So attitude is very important.
But also, when you start to eat more alkaline foods, your capacity to deal with emotional stress will improve. When you do get stressed, the acid and adrenaline created will be eliminated faster as your so your body recovers more quickly. But if the body and elimination organs are choked with acids from bad diet then acid and adrenaline from stress will hang around much longer and agitate the person even further. So a good diet helps people to keep a cool head and recover from stress much more quickly.


Food combining: Eat fruit alone, on an empty stomach and one variety at a time i.e. one banana or one portion of grapes. You can eat avocado with anything though. Try adding avocado to fruit to slow the release of sugar and reduce acid. Don’t eat meat with carbohydrates. Don’t eat dairy with carbohydrates or protein.

Hydrate: The easiest way to get rid of acid is to pee. You need to drink water to flush acids out. Aim to pee at least 12 times per day. Drink one gallon (4 liters) or more of a good quality water each day. This may sound like a lot if you are not used to drinking water but start small and then build up over time. Start with 1 liter per day then build up over weeks and months. You get used to drinking and the feeling associated with being well hydrated. Before you know it, drinking non acidic fluids will become habit. Purified/energized water is best as it is easier to drink than tap water which can taste and feel unpleasant. Tap water, due to its poor structure, just sits in your belly and doesn’t get absorbed properly so it makes you need to pee right away. If you are drinking good water you will not need to pee so urgently and as you get used to hydrating will be able to comfortably hold more water in your bladder for longer.

Salt. real, unrefined, unprocessed salt is actually essential for good health! Redmond Real Salt and Himalayan Salt are two very good brands of salt to use and you should add it liberally to food. It is very alkalizing and healthful. It is a pink colour and looks and tastes totally different to table salt. Table salt (the white stuff you see in salt shakers) is an industrial chemical because it is produced mostly for industrial purposes. The 10% not used in industry ends up in people’s food. Table salt has been bleached, cooked at over 1200 degrees, had anti-caking ingredients added and it is stripped of all other minerals. The white table salt you find in supermarkets is best avoided. Try to get unprocessed salt from ancient deposits which have been naturally protected from modern pollution. It is best to use salt that is extracted from underground deposits or from the Himalayan or other mountain ranges. Open mines or salt taken from modern oceans is likely to be more polluted. Also, even if a product is labeled ‘sea salt’ it may only contain 1% sea salt as labeling laws are very relaxed
low sugar fruit: LOW sugar fruits have all the benefits of high sugar fruit (mango, etc.) but without the fungus stimulating properties of fructose. Tomatoes (which are alkaline when raw), cucumber (very alkaline/electron saturated) avocados, (very alkalizing and a great source of energy, antioxidants, potassium, good fats, etc and are very easy to digest, eat several per day) Grapefruit, lemons and limes are all very alkalizing (the acids in citrus are volatile and evaporate off very quickly so citrus is alkaline and with 1/3 available oxygen). Small berries such as blueberries, blackberries, raspberries and strawberries are good.

Vegetables: Good, low carbohydrate vegetables include asparagus, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, green beans, peppers, spinach, kale, lettuce, onions, garlic, parsley, and squash. About 80% of all meals should be fresh, raw (or lightly cooked, alkalizing vegetables.

Good fats: Avocado, olive oil, coconut oil and other cold pressed oils are great. Raw plant fats are excellent for your health.

Good grains. The following grains are less prone to fermentation; spelt, millet quinoa, amaranth and buckwheat. These grains fall into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods. Complex carbohydrates are acid-forming in the body and should not exceed 20% of the diet, so eat them in moderation. . Try not to store grains in areas of the kitchen which are exposed to steam and heat from cooking as this will cause the grains to go moldy. You can still eat bread but make sure you choose sourdough (yeast free) spelt bread. Paul’s spelt bread is very good (www.soyfoods.co.uk) if you live in the UK.

Soaked nuts: It is important to soak nuts and seeds in water overnight to make them edible. Hemp, flax, sesame and almonds are good. Discard any broken or chipped nuts from the bag. The skin/hull is designed to protect the nut/seed from oxygen, so when the skin is chipped away the nut is exposed and the oil inside will oxidize. Look at a bag of shelled brazil nuts in any health store – most of them are missing their protective brown skin and large areas of the nut are exposed to the air. The nut has gone a yellow colour which indicates that the oil has turned rancid. The same applies with pine and macadamia nuts as, because they don’t have a skin, they oxidize as soon as the shell is removed.
Good fresh fish. Organic fresh oily fish can be beneficial. (Fish falls into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods) Try to avoid tuna as it contains a lot of mercury.

Dairy: Unpasteurized dairy is okay provided the livestock are grass fed only. Also goat’s cheese is okay in moderation.

Daily rhythms: When you eat breakfast, lunch and dinner at roughly the same time each day the body becomes conditioned and is ready for the task of digestion – in other words it has time to prepare and knows what to expect. Try to eat and sleep at regular times.


Attitude: Do not focus all your attention on making your diet perfect. All that happens is you become a bit odd and obsessed with food (I’m taking from experience) Make small changes based on your new understandings. Transition slowly unless you have a really chronic health challenge. Also do not let yourself believe that all this is too much, or too extreme or overwhelming. Just make small steps each day – small steps really do add up. Even if all you take from this is drinking more water then this is still a very positive thing and will benefit you greatly in the long run. Find your own approach and try not to label things as ‘good’ or ‘bad’. The body is resilient and can survive on most diets – this is about empowering yourself and learning how to support your body, whilst living in the real world, not trying to be perfect. It is recommended that you approach any dietary/lifestyle changes in the spirit of ‘choosing better health’ as opposed to ‘fear of illness.’ Just do what feels right and find your own way with things, as you become more alkaline you will be more in tune with what your body wants and your tastes will change accordingly – so don’t force things too much. Also remember, this is not some cultish thing. Find what works for you.
If you fall off the wagon, just get back on. Its not a step back, just a smaller step forward than the day before. And sometimes you do actually need to go backwards to go forwards – don’t expect to be able to conquer all your habits in one go.

plam
07-07-2011, 11:04 PM
Raw dairy is fine, provided it is from pasture fed livestock (not fed fungal corn and grains). Though if someone has a health challenge they will progress much faster when they eliminate all sources of sugar and adopt a 100% alkaline diet for a period of time. Thats not as extreme as you may believe - its really quite safe and normal.

Yes, the milk has to be from grass-fed animals, meat too. If someone has a specific health problem they should be having a specific diet which might exclude some alkalising foods too and vice-versa.

But excluding all acidifying foods is also wrong like red grapes for example and other fruits.

Like I said the rule of thumb is 1:4 in favour of alkalising foods, then it does not matter what food you eat.

The only alkine diet is unbalanced.

Here's link (http://www.energiseforlife.com/acid-alkaline-food-chart-1.3.pdf) to a nice pH chart.

akana
07-07-2011, 11:11 PM
How long to wait in between each food intake? For example, if I wanted to eat fruit, and later meat, how long to wait between each intake?

leon11
08-07-2011, 12:52 AM
Raw dairy is fine, provided it is from pasture fed livestock (not fed fungal corn and grains). Though if someone has a health challenge they will progress much faster when they eliminate all sources of sugar and adopt a 100% alkaline diet for a period of time. Thats not as extreme as you may believe - its really quite safe and normal.

---------------------

Here is a list of the main acid forming factors with details of why they should be reduced in your diet. You will notice that the reason to avoid many foods is not because they are naturally bad, but rather because of the way the foods are produced, stored or processed in today’s modern world. (These foods should ideally be eliminated if you have a health challenge that you want to get rid of quickly)

Food combining:
Eating foods in the wrong combination will create extra acid, gas and bloating. For example fruit normally digests in about 30 minutes, but if the stomach is full of heavy food, then the fruit is forced to sit on top as it can’t get past to be absorbed. So it begins fermenting and this causes lots of acidity. Eating carbohydrates and meat at the same meal will cause a similar effect. Protein digestion requires an acid medium in the stomach and carbohydrate digestion requires an alkaline medium. When you eat meat and carbs together, the body releases both acid and alkaline digestive juices at the same time and these actually neutralize each other and neither the meat nor carbohydrates get properly digested, causing acid and stagnation. So eat fruit on an empty stomach. If you want to eat meat then it is best to eat with just vegetables and not with bread pasta or rice. Eat dairy alone and on an empty stomach.

Cooked food:
Ideally you should include some raw vegetables in your diet even if its only salad and avocado. Vegetables are alkaline and electron rich, but become more acidic and more proton saturated when you over cook it. Steamed or lightly cooked vegetables are very good, but just avoid really cooking it to death.

Cooked oils:
Try to avoid cooking with oils due to the fact that heat oxidizes the oil. Try using extra virgin coconut oil for cooking as it is much more stable and tolerates cooking temperatures without oxidizing. Steam fry your food and then add oil right at the end.

Sugar:
Sugar is like rocket fuel for yeast and is very acidic. However it is better to use sugar than to use artificial sweeteners. Aspartame for example is produced by feeding toxic materials to e-coli bacteria – the white powder produced by the bacteria is used to sweeten your coffee. The company that makes aspartame is the same company behind DDT and Agent Orange.
Sweet fruit has a lot of sugar (mangos, bananas, pineapples, grapes, oranges, apples, papaya, ) Most fruit is also genetically hybridised to make it sweeter. Also most fruit is picked before it is ripe (for transportation) which means it is more acidic. Fruit may have an alkaline pH, but the sugar content means it acidifies the body. Also avoid corn syrup, molasses and maple syrup.


Stored Grains, nuts and potatoes:
The problem with corn and many grains is the way in which they are stored. They are stored for so long and in such a way that they begin to ferment and turn fungal. The fungus is not destroyed by cooking temperatures and has been associated with many chronic diseases including cancer. Modern crops are also weaker due to human tampering which makes crops even more susceptible to fungus overgrowth. Fungal grains are more acid forming and the fungus contributes to a yeast overgrowth. Wheat, oats, barley, rye and corn tend to be the most fungal. These are also naturally the most acid forming grains anyway and so they should be replaced with grains detailed in Section 2. Many oils such as corn oil and other vegetable oils are very contaminated.

The same applies to peanuts and cashews. These should really be avoided because, due to modern farming and storage methods, they are very contaminated with fungus. (Practically ALL corn, peanuts and cashews are now contaminated) This is also because the surface of these foods is soft and fungus easily gets a foothold.

Potatoes are often contaminated with fungus. Sweet potatoes are great though.

Meat:
Meat is naturally acid forming and also livestock are mostly fed on stored grains (even organic livestock). The byproducts of the fermented grains accumulate in the fatty tissue of the livestock and these mycotoxins are not destroyed by cooking. Also, over 50% of the protein is denatured/destroyed by cooking. Humans are unable to fully digest meat. If eating meat, try to buy organic (no hormone or antibiotic injections) and eat with plenty of vegetables as the fiber will help sweep that acidity away and reduce fermentation. Pork is the most acid forming. Chicken, despite the healthy image, is also acid forming. Chickens do not have a separate urinary tract so much uric acid is re absorbed into the tissues – hence ‘juicy’ chicken.

Less Dairy:
Pasteurization removes any potential goodness in the milk by destroying enzymes and changing the molecular structure. Dairy is highly mucus forming and also the calcium is not compatible with the human body (hence why many doctors now say it does nothing to prevent osteoporosis). Dairy products should be avoided because of their lactose (milk sugar) content as well as the presence of yeast and fungus, molds, and their by-products. Also, due to the high sugar and fat content of dairy products, the fact that dairy cows are fed stored grains and fungal-based antibiotics, and the fermentation process of cheese and yogurt, all dairy products should ideally be eventually eliminated from the diet. Calcium can be obtained from green leafy vegetables, green drinks, collards, broccoli, okra, salmon, etc. Avoid milk, cheese, butter, yogurt, ice cream.

Eggs:
Due to chickens being fed fungal corn, most eggs have a high load of pathogenic microorganisms

Cut out the yeast:
Baked goods such as yeast breads, cakes and pastries should be avoided. According to the American Cancer Society, one out of nine American women will develop breast cancer by age 80. Research links it with the ingestion of baked goods and bakers or brewers yeast. Research also correlates diets containing yeast or fermented breads to gall stones, kidney stones and arthritis. Also avoid marmite and ‘nutritional’ yeast.

Tea, coffee, chocolate:
Tea, coffee and chocolate are all acid forming and contain caffeine. Decaf tea/coffee is not any better because they use formaldehyde to flush out the caffeine. Coffee and chocolate are also fermented. Also chocolate contains Theobromine which is a strong acid.

Alcohol:
Wine, beer, whiskey, brandy, gin, rum and vodka are purely mycotoxic. Alcohol is a fungus-produced mycotoxin made by yeast that causes direct injury to human health. If you want to drink alcohol then compensate with water and clay.

Mushrooms:
Mushrooms, algae, and truffles are all acid-forming foods. They contain mycotoxins which poison cells. Mushrooms in all forms are poisonous whether eaten whole or in teas. The mushroom is not a vegetable, but rather the fruiting body of a yeast or fungus. Also, note that corn and peanut, products have a high fungal content and should be avoided as well.

Condiments:
Soy sauce, mayonnaise, vinegar, ketchup. Avoid anything which is fermented or contains sugar, vinegar etc.


Avoid tobacco:
Tobacco leaves are coated with yeast, fungus, and mycotoxins, which poison the cells and tissues of the body. Research clearly reveals the pathway to cancer is the fermentation of the tobacco with yeast and sugar. When using tobacco, you are directly introducing dried fungus and wastes into your body. Also to prevent tobacco going moldy, manufactures introduce chemicals like formaldehyde and benzene as a preservative. Raw tobacco is not so bad.


Processed food
Try to avoid all processed food.



--------------------------

Alkaline foods and other factors:

Stay Relaxed:
Emotional stress produces hydrochloric acid which is 3 x stronger than any dietary acids. So attitude is very important.
But also, when you start to eat more alkaline foods, your capacity to deal with emotional stress will improve. When you do get stressed, the acid and adrenaline created will be eliminated faster as your so your body recovers more quickly. But if the body and elimination organs are choked with acids from bad diet then acid and adrenaline from stress will hang around much longer and agitate the person even further. So a good diet helps people to keep a cool head and recover from stress much more quickly.


Food combining: Eat fruit alone, on an empty stomach and one variety at a time i.e. one banana or one portion of grapes. You can eat avocado with anything though. Try adding avocado to fruit to slow the release of sugar and reduce acid. Don’t eat meat with carbohydrates. Don’t eat dairy with carbohydrates or protein.

Hydrate: The easiest way to get rid of acid is to pee. You need to drink water to flush acids out. Aim to pee at least 12 times per day. Drink one gallon (4 liters) or more of a good quality water each day. This may sound like a lot if you are not used to drinking water but start small and then build up over time. Start with 1 liter per day then build up over weeks and months. You get used to drinking and the feeling associated with being well hydrated. Before you know it, drinking non acidic fluids will become habit. Purified/energized water is best as it is easier to drink than tap water which can taste and feel unpleasant. Tap water, due to its poor structure, just sits in your belly and doesn’t get absorbed properly so it makes you need to pee right away. If you are drinking good water you will not need to pee so urgently and as you get used to hydrating will be able to comfortably hold more water in your bladder for longer.

Salt. real, unrefined, unprocessed salt is actually essential for good health! Redmond Real Salt and Himalayan Salt are two very good brands of salt to use and you should add it liberally to food. It is very alkalizing and healthful. It is a pink colour and looks and tastes totally different to table salt. Table salt (the white stuff you see in salt shakers) is an industrial chemical because it is produced mostly for industrial purposes. The 10% not used in industry ends up in people’s food. Table salt has been bleached, cooked at over 1200 degrees, had anti-caking ingredients added and it is stripped of all other minerals. The white table salt you find in supermarkets is best avoided. Try to get unprocessed salt from ancient deposits which have been naturally protected from modern pollution. It is best to use salt that is extracted from underground deposits or from the Himalayan or other mountain ranges. Open mines or salt taken from modern oceans is likely to be more polluted. Also, even if a product is labeled ‘sea salt’ it may only contain 1% sea salt as labeling laws are very relaxed
low sugar fruit: LOW sugar fruits have all the benefits of high sugar fruit (mango, etc.) but without the fungus stimulating properties of fructose. Tomatoes (which are alkaline when raw), cucumber (very alkaline/electron saturated) avocados, (very alkalizing and a great source of energy, antioxidants, potassium, good fats, etc and are very easy to digest, eat several per day) Grapefruit, lemons and limes are all very alkalizing (the acids in citrus are volatile and evaporate off very quickly so citrus is alkaline and with 1/3 available oxygen). Small berries such as blueberries, blackberries, raspberries and strawberries are good.

Vegetables: Good, low carbohydrate vegetables include asparagus, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, green beans, peppers, spinach, kale, lettuce, onions, garlic, parsley, and squash. About 80% of all meals should be fresh, raw (or lightly cooked, alkalizing vegetables.

Good fats: Avocado, olive oil, coconut oil and other cold pressed oils are great. Raw plant fats are excellent for your health.

Good grains. The following grains are less prone to fermentation; spelt, millet quinoa, amaranth and buckwheat. These grains fall into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods. Complex carbohydrates are acid-forming in the body and should not exceed 20% of the diet, so eat them in moderation. . Try not to store grains in areas of the kitchen which are exposed to steam and heat from cooking as this will cause the grains to go moldy. You can still eat bread but make sure you choose sourdough (yeast free) spelt bread. Paul’s spelt bread is very good (www.soyfoods.co.uk) if you live in the UK.

Soaked nuts: It is important to soak nuts and seeds in water overnight to make them edible. Hemp, flax, sesame and almonds are good. Discard any broken or chipped nuts from the bag. The skin/hull is designed to protect the nut/seed from oxygen, so when the skin is chipped away the nut is exposed and the oil inside will oxidize. Look at a bag of shelled brazil nuts in any health store – most of them are missing their protective brown skin and large areas of the nut are exposed to the air. The nut has gone a yellow colour which indicates that the oil has turned rancid. The same applies with pine and macadamia nuts as, because they don’t have a skin, they oxidize as soon as the shell is removed.
Good fresh fish. Organic fresh oily fish can be beneficial. (Fish falls into the mildly acidic, but still healthy category of foods) Try to avoid tuna as it contains a lot of mercury.

Dairy: Unpasteurized dairy is okay provided the livestock are grass fed only. Also goat’s cheese is okay in moderation.

Daily rhythms: When you eat breakfast, lunch and dinner at roughly the same time each day the body becomes conditioned and is ready for the task of digestion – in other words it has time to prepare and knows what to expect. Try to eat and sleep at regular times.


Attitude: Do not focus all your attention on making your diet perfect. All that happens is you become a bit odd and obsessed with food (I’m taking from experience) Make small changes based on your new understandings. Transition slowly unless you have a really chronic health challenge. Also do not let yourself believe that all this is too much, or too extreme or overwhelming. Just make small steps each day – small steps really do add up. Even if all you take from this is drinking more water then this is still a very positive thing and will benefit you greatly in the long run. Find your own approach and try not to label things as ‘good’ or ‘bad’. The body is resilient and can survive on most diets – this is about empowering yourself and learning how to support your body, whilst living in the real world, not trying to be perfect. It is recommended that you approach any dietary/lifestyle changes in the spirit of ‘choosing better health’ as opposed to ‘fear of illness.’ Just do what feels right and find your own way with things, as you become more alkaline you will be more in tune with what your body wants and your tastes will change accordingly – so don’t force things too much. Also remember, this is not some cultish thing. Find what works for you.
If you fall off the wagon, just get back on. Its not a step back, just a smaller step forward than the day before. And sometimes you do actually need to go backwards to go forwards – don’t expect to be able to conquer all your habits in one go.


I sent you a message dom but this helps clarify things more already, thank you for the recap

20 years (or even 3 generations?!) of awful dietary habits is taking some turning around!

but this helps a lot with my temporary relapse of focus, thanks again

moods999
08-07-2011, 07:38 AM
Why does all tea contain caffein?

domathy
08-07-2011, 09:18 AM
Yes, the milk has to be from grass-fed animals, meat too. If someone has a specific health problem they should be having a specific diet which might exclude some alkalising foods too and vice-versa.

But excluding all acidifying foods is also wrong like red grapes for example and other fruits.

Like I said the rule of thumb is 1:4 in favour of alkalising foods, then it does not matter what food you eat.

The only alkine diet is unbalanced.

Here's link (http://www.energiseforlife.com/acid-alkaline-food-chart-1.3.pdf) to a nice pH chart.

Are you saying that all 6 billion people on the planet rely on exploiting and killing animals to maintain health? We dont need animals - it is recreational food.

We dont need dietary acid - we constantly produce acid even from metabolising alklaine foods. Even healthy metabolism creates acid. Ie to turn an alklaine avocado into energy there will be some acidic byproducts. Emotions generate acidity. Are you somehow suggesting that even on a 100% alkaline food diet that we will become acid deficient? Even the air we breathe today is acid forming and we are surrounded by acidic pollution. It is practically impossible to become over alkaline. If you dont understand this statement you should watch akana's recent post about pH testing.

When a person is healthy then a good ratio is 80% high alklaine foods and 20% mild acid foods.

Gapes are fine, provided you dont have a yeast overgrowth. Also as long as the grapes are in season, and locally produced and non hybridized. Seedless grapes are all hybridized to make them sweeter and are picked before they are ripe so they survive transportation (unripe fruit is more acidic and contains way less nutrients).

People will not get sugar deficiency!!! :rolleyes:

The alkaine diet provides lots and lots and lots of calories so you do not need to fear. Just happens that the calories are mostly clean energy sources such and raw plant fats. The body converts fat into blood sugar so there is no chance of sugar deficiency. As for vitamins and minerals - green foods contain way more vitamin C and other important nutrients than sweet (GM hybridized) fruit.

This diet is not extreme, just good common sense.

I know the people at energizeforlife.com - and they say to avoid fruit - so i dont know why fruit is featured on their pH chart.

plam
08-07-2011, 09:50 AM
Are you somehow suggesting that even on a 100% alkaline food diet that we will become acid deficient?

Of course not. The point is that you deprive your body of other nutrients found in acidifying food, that's all! That's why maintaining the 4 to 1 balance is the right approach even if the body is not in perfect from.

Going into extremes in ANYTHING in life is bad for your health.

I don't want to go into lengthy argument about the notion of 'killing' of animals - it's absurd and most of all, highly hypocritical. Every creatures lives on other creatures. Animals eventual turn into nutrients for plants in the form of soil fertilisers so one can argue that by eating plants you eat dead animals.

What humans don't get and vegetarians are the epitome of that misunderstanding is that animals do not fear death. They do not have the notion of "I" and therefore there's no fear that it will end. The animal has an instinct to defend itself as such situations are part of their everyday life - that's all, it is not thinking "Oh, my God that awful man is going to kill me and I will be no more!"

domathy
08-07-2011, 10:11 AM
How long to wait in between each food intake? For example, if I wanted to eat fruit, and later meat, how long to wait between each intake?

If you eat fruit, wait for about 30 mins (or more) before eating meat - as fruit gigests quickly. If you eat meat or dairy then wait for about 3 hours before having fruit. If eating carbs wait maybe 2 hours before having fruit.
I sent you a message dom but this helps clarify things more already, thank you for the recap

20 years (or even 3 generations?!) of awful dietary habits is taking some turning around!

but this helps a lot with my temporary relapse of focus, thanks again

You need to detoxify and tear down the old cells whislt rebuilding your body with nutrients from clean foods, so it takes a little while. Keep plodding along and all of a sudden you will turn a corner.

Why does all tea contain caffein?

Thats a question for mother nature im afraid :)
Caffeine is there naturally. I dont think caffine is too bad tbh, and coffee isnt all that bad either, but the roasting and fermentation process makes the pH of coffee very low. There is a machine which uses a different process and the pH is 6 instead of 3-4, so thats a good alternative. But i lost the link.

Of course not. The point is that you'll deprive of other nutrient found in acidifying food, that's all! That's maintaining the 4 to 1 balance is the right approach.

Going into extremes in ANYTHING in life is bad for your health.

Well, tbh most people dont even get near to 4 to 1 balance even when they try.
Only a few people really achieve that ideal balance, even i dont a lot of the time. But those who go 100% alkaline become fantastically health - and that is reflected in their blood profile and every other area of their health. But, there is nothing in meat or dairy that is required/essential for health. And sweet fruit is not essential (especially not modern fruit nor meat).

A good alklaine diet means lots of vegetables especially greens. Grains/seeds (millet, quinnoa, spelt, buckwheat, hemp, flax, sesame), maybe some fish, fats from coconut, avocado, olive oil, and omega 3&6 sources.

Meat is fine for some people - but for me, ive almost always been veggie and i think vibrationally its just not compatible. Some people may still require it - but that on an energetic/vibrational level, not a nutritional level.

And we can argue about fruit, but low sugar fruit has all the nutrients of high sugar fruit but without all the sugar. Either way fruit is mostly grown is rubbish soil and picked before its ripe - so its pretty nutrient poor. And yu get plenty of fibre from the alklaine diet too.

But this isnt a natural diet - its a diet designed to compensate for the unnatural world we live in. It is tailored for the modern world due to the corruption of food sources and also the different vibration of a plant based diet. Im not even sure if there is an ideal diet for humans - but this works well for todays circumstances.

domathy
08-07-2011, 10:28 AM
Of course not. The point is that you deprive your body of other nutrients found in acidifying food, that's all! That's why maintaining the 4 to 1 balance is the right approach even if the body is not in perfect from.

Going into extremes in ANYTHING in life is bad for your health.

I don't want to go into lengthy argument about the notion of 'killing' of animals - it's absurd and most of all, highly hypocritical. Every creatures lives on other creatures. Animals eventual turn into nutrients for plants in the form of soil fertilisers so one can argue that by eating plants you eat dead animals.

What humans don't get and vegetarians are the epitome of that misunderstanding is that animals do not fear death. They do not have the notion of "I" and therefore there's no fear that it will end. The animal has an instinct to defend itself as such situations are part of their everyday life - that's all, it is not thinking "Oh, my God that awful man is going to kill me and I will be no more!"

Well, animals may not get sentimental, but they do experience terror (and also misery when kept in inhumnae conditions). Animals eat other animals but i dont think its always been that way - i belive Ickes POV on this subject.
And yes, humans also become plant food - when we are good and ready to do so ie when we die of old age.

That said, eating meat from pasture fed animals who are killed in a humane and respectful way is fine if you want to. But, the people who rear animals in an industrial way and treat them as a commodity need to grow a conscience.

And there is no health argument for eating meat as rearing livestock is destroying the heath of the planet by consuming/polluting the planets resources (water, rainforests, grains etc)

Either way, from a nutritional POV we absorb the adrenaline in their blood and tissues and adrenaline isnt good. Also the protein is denatured when cooked and is is a very nutrient poor food. Plus what the livestock is fed and the method for fattening animals for market is acidifying for us as its passed on when we eat it.

I dont compare myself to a lion though, we have higher faculties- i believe myself to be a spiritual being and eat things that dont drag my vibration down - but its horses for courses - and meat is fine as long as its from the right sources. (i didnt mean that to rhyme :))

domathy
08-07-2011, 10:34 AM
Of course not. The point is that you deprive your body of other nutrients found in acidifying food, that's all! That's why maintaining the 4 to 1 balance is the right approach even if the body is not in perfect from.

Going into extremes in ANYTHING in life is bad for your health.

I don't want to go into lengthy argument about the notion of 'killing' of animals - it's absurd and most of all, highly hypocritical. Every creatures lives on other creatures. Animals eventual turn into nutrients for plants in the form of soil fertilisers so one can argue that by eating plants you eat dead animals.

What humans don't get and vegetarians are the epitome of that misunderstanding is that animals do not fear death. They do not have the notion of "I" and therefore there's no fear that it will end. The animal has an instinct to defend itself as such situations are part of their everyday life - that's all, it is not thinking "Oh, my God that awful man is going to kill me and I will be no more!"

There is nothing extreme about this diet btw. Exotic fruits are a very, very recent appearance in our shops.
Fish used to be great - now its full of all sorts of stuff.
Meat and dairy was totally different to what it is now. I just dont think its wise to eat/drink the flesh or bodily fluids of sick miserable animals who need antibiotics and other drugs just to stop them keeling over. Plus animals accumulate radiation pretty well and we absorb that too.

lulushka8
08-07-2011, 11:14 AM
great posts domathy, no-one can argue with that.

domathy
08-07-2011, 11:42 AM
great posts domathy, no-one can argue with that.

Thanks. I just read it back - i hope it didnt sound too blunt. Plam was raising fair points, its just something i feel strongly about.

Thing with meat is it is not designed for the human digestive tract and it is never properly digested (hence why meat eaters have smelly poo :D)
We have a long digestive tract with a large surface area for digsting complex fibrous vegetables (same as a gorillias intestinal tract) so meat rots in our gut like meat on a radiator for 24 hrs. Carnivores have short intestines with much higher acid levels for digesting animal protien and eliminating the waste quickly before it rots.

plam
08-07-2011, 01:04 PM
Well, animals may not get sentimental, but they do experience terror (and also misery when kept in inhumnae conditions). Animals eat other animals but i dont think its always been that way - i belive Ickes POV on this subject.
And yes, humans also become plant food - when we are good and ready to do so ie when we die of old age.

That said, eating meat from pasture fed animals who are killed in a humane and respectful way is fine if you want to. But, the people who rear animals in an industrial way and treat them as a commodity need to grow a conscience.

And there is no health argument for eating meat as rearing livestock is destroying the heath of the planet by consuming/polluting the planets resources (water, rainforests, grains etc)

Either way, from a nutritional POV we absorb the adrenaline in their blood and tissues and adrenaline isnt good. Also the protein is denatured when cooked and is is a very nutrient poor food. Plus what the livestock is fed and the method for fattening animals for market is acidifying for us as its passed on when we eat it.

I dont compare myself to a lion though, we have higher faculties- i believe myself to be a spiritual being and eat things that dont drag my vibration down - but its horses for courses - and meat is fine as long as its from the right sources. (i didnt mean that to rhyme :))

domathy, you are technically right. I never suggested that we should eat just any meat.

I don't know what David Icke said about times when animals did not eat other animals, but it sounds ridiculous and the word "sheep humanity" springs to mind. No wonder! :D

The electric current (vibrations) in the body is at low frequency. That's why the amalgam fillings in the mouth are bad because they are like batteries that create 1,000 times greater current than those generated by nerve cells.

And I don't see how a dead animal will have kept its electrical current so that can influence yours? It's like an exhausted battery. Don't worry about that.

You could do get some electricity/vibration from fruits and vegetables but you need to connect yourself with a zinc and copper pieces to the fruit. But bear in mind that the more acidic fruits will produce more electricity/vibrations ;)

As for the fear induced adrenalin, it all depends on the way you slaughter the animal. When you let all the blood to get drained, almost no adrenalin is left in the body, thus Halal makes sense.

scottishryan
08-07-2011, 01:10 PM
Yuk :o

domathy
08-07-2011, 01:50 PM
domathy, you are technically right. I never suggested that we should eat just any meat.

I don't know what David Icke said about times when animals did not eat other animals, but it sounds ridiculous and the word "sheep humanity" springs to mind. No wonder! :D

The electric current (vibrations) in the body is at low frequency. That's why the amalgam fillings in the mouth are bad because they are like batteries that create 1,000 times greater current than those generated by nerve cells.

And I don't see how a dead animal will have kept its electrical current so that can influence yours? It's like an exhausted battery. Don't worry about that.

You could do get some electricity/vibration from fruits and vegetables but you need to connect yourself with a zinc and copper pieces to the fruit. But bear in mind that the more acidic fruits will produce more electricity/vibrations ;)

As for the fear induced adrenalin, it all depends on the way you slaughter the animal. When you let all the blood to get drained, almost no adrenalin is left in the body, thus Halal makes sense.


The body vibrates at 70mhz (give or take). The typical diet is between 20-50mhz. When you eat low mhz foods the body must compensate and sacrifice electrons to raise the energy for the food for assimilation. After a while this takes its toll as we get older. A cancer cell vibrates at 50mhz - so the vibration of the body is lowered. A piece of meat vibrates at 0mhz - there is no life force. Fruit and veg are all above 70mhz. a sprouted lentil is 150mhz - these are biogenic and contribute energy/electrons.
Many things have 0mhz but meat has the added negativity of death surrounding it. Just because this cant be measured with scientific tools and cannot be quantified with the logical mind - doesnt mean its not real. Im not talking about electrical energy like the battery example you gave (btw batteries are alkaline), im talking about vibrational energy in the esoteric sense. We are not meant to be killing and eating our fellow animals - they are suppose to be our frineds - so when we kill and eat an animal, we are harming ourselves too on some level. You dont believe that, but it is true and its a belief shared by many wise people too. We are not animals so we shouldnt model ourselves on all their behaviours - and i think animals were once at peace with eachother before the reptillians arrived to turn nature on its head- now we have the law of the jungle which parrallels our global economy - which is equally vicious.

Adrenaline is just one component - and i agree it would be best to drain the blood- but i have read about the practices within kosher/halal factories and its nasty.

The cows are on a conveyor belt in a long line. A chain wrapped around their leg and they are yanked off their feet up into the air upside down, their whole weight supported by only one leg with the chain round it so that the leg breaks and muscles/tendons tear. Then, after waiting in line - its throat is finally cut (sometimes the process needs to be repeated as not cut deep enough) and it bleeds to death.

Look, death has an energy. Birds wont even go in the old nazi concentration camps - as they sense something we cant perceive.
I stayed at a meditation centre in the UK and people were so centred and calm and we were eating only vegetarian food, that wild animals would approach and felt comfortable around us. I was feeding wild bunnies and birds from my hand. Its all just got messed up and we are torturing and killing our friends.

Im not saying meat hasnt been a legitimate part of human history - just that times are changing. So many kids being born today dont like meat - my friends son spits out meat and i hear this a lot. Its a different vibration on the planet and soon we wont be able to sustain ourselves on the flesh of animals IMHO :D

scottishryan
08-07-2011, 02:17 PM
Excellent Post!!

I tell you one thing, I know I slip up with alcohol and other acidic forming foods but I will NEVER place an animal in my mouth for consumption and it breaks my heart to read people describe how they are killed and treated.

Horses for courses and my course is to honour, care and be the best I can to my body and nature and its creatures around me. I wont even allow fly spray in my house FFS :D:D

lulushka8
08-07-2011, 02:59 PM
I agree.

each to their own and i respect everyone's choices, but i prefer nice smelling loos. also your sweat won't smell gross, (esp if you lay off the garlic & spices as well). :D

Ryan i'm a bit like you in that i get annoyed at my mum when she comes in my room on a moth killing rampage, ok maybe they are enjoying my clothes, but i'd rather just leave them to eat tbh. :rolleyes: (seriously you can put a bit of rose oil around to keep them away.)

...halal meat is unfathomably evil imo, bettter to buy humanely pasture raised meat.

also have you noticed that animals, babies and kids naturally warm to you more, i think it's cause they sense the peace vibration. animals and kids always instantly love/approach me, and i think it's cause they know what i'm about, they're on another level.

domathy
08-07-2011, 03:47 PM
Excellent Post!!

I tell you one thing, I know I slip up with alcohol and other acidic forming foods but I will NEVER place an animal in my mouth for consumption and it breaks my heart to read people describe how they are killed and treated.

Horses for courses and my course is to honour, care and be the best I can to my body and nature and its creatures around me. I wont even allow fly spray in my house FFS :D:D

There is a trick with flies. You hit them in such a way that you stun them - then throw them outside and they wake up (with a headache) and carry on with their day. A rolled up newspaper is such a messy approach :)

I agree.

each to their own and i respect everyone's choices, but i prefer nice smelling loos. also your sweat won't smell gross, (esp if you lay off the garlic & spices as well). :D

Probablty tmi for you but i find soya milk makes my sweat change. Normally my sweat when exercising is neutral smelling - but soy makes it smell bad. Same with garlic and spices for sure!

Ryan i'm a bit like you in that i get annoyed at my mum when she comes in my room on a moth killing rampage, ok maybe they are enjoying my clothes, but i'd rather just leave them to eat tbh. :rolleyes: (seriously you can put a bit of rose oil around to keep them away.)

I love moths and laugh at them for not figuring out the light bulb is not really what they are seeking in life. Ive never had my clothes eaten by moths though and always thought that was a myth. Im so pathetic i cant even leave a spider to drown in the toilet - it has to be rescued

...halal meat is unfathomably evil imo, bettter to buy humanely pasture raised meat.

also have you noticed that animals, babies and kids naturally warm to you more, i think it's cause they sense the peace vibration. animals and kids always instantly love/approach me, and i think it's cause they know what i'm about, they're on another level.

Me too. People are like what the hell is it with me as kids and animals make a bee line.

Anyway, alklaine chick has spoken so i think most people will aggree that we should be kind to animals.

plam
08-07-2011, 05:05 PM
The body vibrates at 70mhz (give or take). The typical diet is between 20-50mhz. When you eat low mhz foods the body must compensate and sacrifice electrons to raise the energy for the food for assimilation. After a while this takes its toll as we get older. A cancer cell vibrates at 50mhz - so the vibration of the body is lowered. A piece of meat vibrates at 0mhz - there is no life force. Fruit and veg are all above 70mhz. a sprouted lentil is 150mhz - these are biogenic and contribute energy/electrons.

I don't know where you get your info but it's incorrect and not logical if I have to bluntly honest. If a fruit was vibrating at 70mhz, it would have been intelligent in the sense that we are.

Here's a more comprehensive list (http://justalist.blogspot.com/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html). This data is compiled by Bruce Tainio of Tainio Technology, an independent division of Eastern State University in Cheny, Washington.

For the record fresh fruit and vegetables are at 20-27 Hz (note, that's Hz not MHz) which is MUCH LOWER than the body's frequency at 78 Mhz and according to your thinking eating fruit and vegetables would bring down your vibrations.

The foods with highest frequency are essential oils starting at 52 Hz and go as high as 320 Hz, which is the frequency of rose oil. Still in the Hz range and not nearly as high as you grossly exaggerated it.

domathy
08-07-2011, 05:20 PM
I don't know where you get your info but it's incorrect and not logical if I have to bluntly honest. If a fruit was vibrating at 70mhz, it would have been intelligent in the sense that we are.

Here's a more comprehensive list (http://justalist.blogspot.com/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html). This data is compiled by Bruce Tainio of Tainio Technology, an independent division of Eastern State University in Cheny, Washington.

For the record fresh fruit and vegetables are at 20-27 Hz (note, that's Hz not MHz) which is MUCH LOWER than the body's frequency at 78 Mhz and according to your thinking eating fruit and vegetables would bring down your vibrations.

The foods with highest frequency are essential oils starting at 52 Hz and go as high as 320 Hz, which is the frequency of rose oil. Still in the Hz range and not nearly as high as you grossly exaggerated it.

I think Brucy got his data wrong:

http://www.snyderhealth.com/energize.htm

lulushka8
08-07-2011, 05:23 PM
Probablty tmi for you but i find soya milk makes my sweat change. Normally my sweat when exercising is neutral smelling - but soy makes it smell bad. Same with garlic and spices for sure!

I love moths and laugh at them for not figuring out the light bulb is not really what they are seeking in life. Ive never had my clothes eaten by moths though and always thought that was a myth. Im so pathetic i cant even leave a spider to drown in the toilet - it has to be rescued

i don't mind tmi. i've never had soya milk, i've always been a bit suspicious of it. i used to use oat/rice milk, but much prefer nut milk now. i'm not surprised the soya milk would give an odour, it's not really natural is it?

that's funny about the moths and so true. i don''t think moths eat the clothes either since mine are ok. ..that's very selfless of you to put your hands down the toilet bowl for the little spiders! :D

lulushka8
08-07-2011, 05:26 PM
I think Brucy got his data wrong:

i wouldn't know tbh, all that frequency stuff just went over my head.

silverwand
08-07-2011, 05:44 PM
i don't mind tmi. i've never had soya milk, i've always been a bit suspicious of it. i used to use oat/rice milk, but much prefer nut milk now. i'm not surprised the soya milk would give an odour, it's not really natural is it?

that's funny about the moths and so true. i don''t think moths eat the clothes either since mine are ok. ..that's very selfless of you to put your hands down the toilet bowl for the little spiders! :D

I know this is a bit off topic (and might seem a bit daft to some people) but since moths were mentioned, yesterday I was putting my coat on and a moth came off (seemingly out of nowhere but obviousley from my coat) and as I tried to catch it to put it out I injured one of its wings :( I've felt really guilty since then and it's in a glass jug with a thin see through food bag on top (with tons of holes in it so it can breathe) as it can't really fly properly and I don't know what to do with it. I need to help it somehow as it was me who injured it so I don't know what to do :confused:
Any suggestions?

leon11
08-07-2011, 05:49 PM
Im not saying meat hasnt been a legitimate part of human history - just that times are changing. So many kids being born today dont like meat - my friends son spits out meat and i hear this a lot. Its a different vibration on the planet and soon we wont be able to sustain ourselves on the flesh of animals IMHO :D [/COLOR]

yeh good posts man....
its funny on this subject ^ as I used to HATE meat as a kid...would never touch the stuff. Only through years of peer/parental-pressure did I go full circle to eating almost nothin but meat and bread! sigh!


does no-one drink almond milk btw...?

plam
08-07-2011, 05:58 PM
I think Brucy got his data wrong:

http://www.snyderhealth.com/energize.htm

OK, I see your data comes from the alkalasing army! Never mind that Bruce Tainio actually built the first frequency monitor in the world, let's trust an e-commerce website. :rolleyes:

Domathy, think logically, if a cucumber vibrates at 70 Mhz it won't be a vegetable but a walking monster cucumber. ;)

akana
08-07-2011, 06:28 PM
OK, I see your data comes from the alkalasing army! Never mind that Bruce Tainio actually built the first frequency monitor in the world, let's trust an e-commerce website. :rolleyes:



interesting post, but what does this all mean?

akana
08-07-2011, 06:42 PM
Domothy, I read in your scibd document that when a person is undergoing a pro-longed fast from food, that only then is when the bone marrow is used for blood-making. Does this mean that water fasting is not recommended , and vegetable juice fasting instead?

plam
08-07-2011, 07:08 PM
interesting post, but what does this all mean?

Domathy thinks that vegetables vibrate at 70 MHz, which is to put it mildly, an exaggeration. Whereas even the freshest food vibrates at 20-27 Hz, only rose oil vibrates at 320 Hz, still a LOT lower than 70 MHz.

Every disease has a frequency. In 1920 s Dr. Royal R. Rife developed a frequency generator and cured 1000s of patients diagnosed with incurable cancer. His documentation and the generator were stolen ... mysteriously.

http://www.rife.org/

Human Body:

Genius Brain Frequency 80-82 MHz
Brain Frequency Range 72-90 MHz
Normal Brain Frequency 72 MHz
Human Body 62-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck up 72-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck down 60-68 MHz Thyroid and Parathyroid glands are 62-68 MHz
Thymus Gland is 65-68 MHz
Heart is 67-70 MHz
Lungs are 58-65 MHz
Liver is 55-60 MHz
Pancreas is 60-80 MHz

Colds and Flu start at: 57-60 MHz
Disease starts at: 58 MHz
Candida overgrowth starts at: 55 MHz
Receptive to Epstein Barr at: 52 MHz
Receptive to Cancer at: 42 MHz
Death begins at: 25 MHz

Foods
(fresh foods and herbs can be higher if grown organically and eaten freshly picked):

Fresh Foods 20-27 Hz
Fresh Herbs 20-27 Hz
Dried Foods 15-22 Hz
Dried Herbs 15-22 Hz

http://justalist.blogspot.com/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html

akana
08-07-2011, 07:11 PM
yeh good posts man...


does no-one drink almond milk btw...?


make it plenty at home ;)

akana
08-07-2011, 07:13 PM
http://www.rife.org/

http://justalist.blogspot.com/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html

very enlightening, thank you

akana
08-07-2011, 07:34 PM
if clorophyl makes veggies green, does this means that green peppers have it, but red peppers dont? or do non-green vegetables still contain chlorophyl, but in lesser amounts?

Also, I've been soaking grains, nuts, and seeds in water + a bit of vinegar. Can I continue doing this and still be on the road to alkalinity?

domathy
08-07-2011, 08:26 PM
OK, I see your data comes from the alkalasing army! Never mind that Bruce Tainio actually built the first frequency monitor in the world, let's trust an e-commerce website. :rolleyes:

Domathy, think logically, if a cucumber vibrates at 70 Mhz it won't be a vegetable but a walking monster cucumber. ;)

Look, youre wrong :p - he's a troll or a shill or an idiot :D

But, Ill try and prove it :)

Can you do this with steak?


Dr Young - pH Miracle Retreat in London: June 2009 - YouTube


Will It Light? Cola, Coffee, and Beer - YouTube

plam
08-07-2011, 08:44 PM
Look, youre wrong :p - he's a troll or a shill or an idiot :D

But, Ill try and prove it :)

Can you do this with steak?

Hehe, Young has found the answer to the world's energy crisis!

Still, if you ever meet a vegetable at 70 MHz, say hi from me, I'm sure it will speak at least five languages!

p.s. have you tried the light experiment yourself? ;)

domathy
08-07-2011, 09:02 PM
i don't mind tmi. i've never had soya milk, i've always been a bit suspicious of it. i used to use oat/rice milk, but much prefer nut milk now. i'm not surprised the soya milk would give an odour, it's not really natural is it?

Never had mayo or soya milk? Not sure about oat milk -was worried about gluten, and rice milk has safflower oil added, but both are okay. Nut milk is best - not sure about the almond milk you can buy in cartons - i think its sweetened. But all better than dairy I think. Fresh hemp or almond milk is awesome

that's funny about the moths and so true. i don''t think moths eat the clothes either since mine are ok. ..that's very selfless of you to put your hands down the toilet bowl for the little spiders! :D

We shouldnt mock the moths, we can all relate - very human behaviour.
Well there are no meat eaters in the house so the toilet is pretty clean (plus women only in the house and apparently women's poo dont smell) but still, i would use some kind of rescuing device - not my actual hand.

i wouldn't know tbh, all that frequency stuff just went over my head.

I wasnt talking to you with that anyway :) Its quite boring anyway.

I know this is a bit off topic (and might seem a bit daft to some people) but since moths were mentioned, yesterday I was putting my coat on and a moth came off (seemingly out of nowhere but obviousley from my coat) and as I tried to catch it to put it out I injured one of its wings :( I've felt really guilty since then and it's in a glass jug with a thin see through food bag on top (with tons of holes in it so it can breathe) as it can't really fly properly and I don't know what to do with it. I need to help it somehow as it was me who injured it so I don't know what to do Any suggestions?

Jeez thats a tough one. And rolf harris is off for the weekend so not pet rescue. Do not call the RSPCA - they are useless - they wouldnt even come and get a peacock that landed on our roof - let alone a moth. I will google and see what the correct protocol might be. That is very cute story :) I hope it will have a happy ending. It will probably need feeding if it is to recover - so maybe put some clothes inside the bag? :confused:

yeh good posts man....
its funny on this subject ^ as I used to HATE meat as a kid...would never touch the stuff. Only through years of peer/parental-pressure did I go full circle to eating almost nothin but meat and bread! sigh!


Hmm, I was raised veggie - then when started smoking weed (and maybe coincided with mercury fillings too) i started eating meat (well, macdonalds anyway :p) - then when i gave up weed, i went off meat really quickly. Maybe just a cooincidence.

does no-one drink almond milk btw...?

Yes! Its great stuff. Just not always practical for everyday use for everyone - bit pricey too.


OK, I see your data comes from the alkalasing army! Never mind that Bruce Tainio actually built the first frequency monitor in the world, let's trust an e-commerce website. :rolleyes:

Domathy, think logically, if a cucumber vibrates at 70 Mhz it won't be a vegetable but a walking monster cucumber. ;)

Well, for years my frinend has called cucumbers a dildo instead. She even shouts "Dom, grab a dildo" in the middle of tesco. Even writes it on shopping list as dildo. So, its now a walking monster vibrating dildo than vibrates at 70mhz - i cant wait to tell her.

Domothy, I read in your scibd document that when a person is undergoing a pro-longed fast from food, that only then is when the bone marrow is used for blood-making. Does this mean that water fasting is not recommended , and vegetable juice fasting instead?

It applies if a person is starved of nutrients ie fasting, starving or just on a poor diet whereby the body must borrow foundational elements from elsewhere. Water/juice fasting is fine - but initially its best to do Dr Youngs 'green feast' which involves eating only raw green foods blended into a shake - and have several per day. It provides all the nutrients and fats to rebuild the body - plus the fact its blended is easy on the small intestine. Good question though - and well done for reading the article :D
Water fasting and juice fasting is great when applied properly for cleansing/spiritual purposes - but not to the detriment of your health (i hospitalised myself through water fasting so im talking from experience :p)

if clorophyl makes veggies green, does this means that green peppers have it, but red peppers dont? or do non-green vegetables still contain chlorophyl, but in lesser amounts?

Only green veg has chlorophyll - I think green peppers must have chlorophyll - not 100% sure though. All leafy greens have it though.
Also, I've been soaking grains, nuts, and seeds in water + a bit of vinegar. Can I continue doing this and still be on the road to alkalinity?

Dont need vinegar - just water i think.

domathy
08-07-2011, 09:05 PM
Hehe, Young has found the answer to the world's energy crisis!

Still, if you ever meet a vegetable at 70 MHz, say hi from me, I'm sure it will speak at least five languages!

I'll find one, don't you worry. Then i'll introduce you and i'm sure youll get on like a house on fire :D

p.s. have you tried the light experiment yourself? ;)

No, but ive been with dr young a few times when he did the light experiment - he did it at the microscopy training too.

domathy
08-07-2011, 09:33 PM
I know this is a bit off topic (and might seem a bit daft to some people) but since moths were mentioned, yesterday I was putting my coat on and a moth came off (seemingly out of nowhere but obviousley from my coat) and as I tried to catch it to put it out I injured one of its wings :( I've felt really guilty since then and it's in a glass jug with a thin see through food bag on top (with tons of holes in it so it can breathe) as it can't really fly properly and I don't know what to do with it. I need to help it somehow as it was me who injured it so I don't know what to do :confused:
Any suggestions?

Maybe the moth had a message for you?


I’ve been asked about the symbolic meaning of the moth.

It took me a few days to really jive with this amazing creature, but once allowed access, I was given some incredible insights. These (intense) thoughts can be seen here on my symbolic meaning of moth page. Here are some other observations:

Moths are nocturnal, and much of their symbolism deals with:

Intuition
Psychic perception
Heightened awareness
Indeed, many people who are spiritual practitioners (particularly of an esoteric ilk) attract the moth as their animal totems.

As if being a night-dweller weren’t enough, the moths are babes of the moon. They follow the mother moon as a source of light, and this connects them with some powerful moon associations such as:

Knowledge of the Otherworld
Second sight
Influence
Prophesy
Clarity
However, as I mentioned in my in-depth page on moth symbolism here, those of us who fly high with the moth must be mindful to not be too carried away by her influence. Moon creatures such as moths ask us to have a firm foundation before lunar journeying.

The moth expresses some tender vulnerabilities, which I’ve mentioned here. We may take this as a message to be open to our heightened spiritual experiences yet allow for adjustment and protection too.

Indeed, we find this theme of protection in the moth’s chrysalis. Unlike her cousin, the butterfly (with whom the moth shares many symbolic attributes), the moth’s coccoon is like an internalized womb with a hard casing, allowing more protection against the elements. (the butterfly has an externalized womb, more exposed and subjective to the environment).

This may be analogous of garnering protection for ourselves in our spiritual practices. The moth reminds us to have a willing heart in our spiritual growth, but realize the heart is a treasure to be taken care of. Part of this caretaking involves nurturing and protection during times of development.

I’ve written more about the moth’s message of balance, grounding and protection (particularly in terms of its attraction to light and flames) here.

As a dream symbol, the moth may be interpreted as a message to listen to our inner voice. Dreaming of the moth may also indicate we are on the path to attracting love into our lives (see more about the moth and love symbolism here).

Another dream animal aspect of the moth deals with influence. Here, our dreaming mind may ask our waking mind what is it that rules our attention, or what are we allowing to overly influence us in our daily lives?

In superstition: A white moth is said to embody the soul of a loved one. White being the symbolic color of purity of the soul, and the embodiment comes from an ancient idea that the night (realm of the moth) is a dwelling place for souls (in terms of the Underworld or Otherworld).

Another superstition connected to the moth is that when one is seen, an important letter or message will arrive (I have yet to find an origin for this one – if you know where this folk-myth came from, feel free to comment).

But don’t rely on superstition to receive an important message. Take some time to connect with the moth…she may be a bit elusive at first, but she’s worth the persistence for the wisdom she imparts.

domathy
08-07-2011, 09:37 PM
(btw - i understand you probably feel guilty - but remember it was just an accident, it will probably be reborn as another moth anyway)

This was the best answer i found:

Put it on a tree or flower and put a little water on the flower .
The moth may survive or not. Its up to God.

akana
08-07-2011, 09:48 PM
silverwand, your compassion for the moth is really inspiring to me :)

domathy
08-07-2011, 09:56 PM
WOnder if Ryan's drinking tonight? :)

akana
08-07-2011, 09:59 PM
WOnder if Ryan's drinking tonight? :)

who is Ryan? i thought silverwand waas a girl

domathy
08-07-2011, 10:26 PM
who is Ryan? i thought silverwand waas a girl

scottishryan is the guy who's giving up weekend booze. Some weekends the succeeds, and other times we tell him off if he's been naughty. :)

akana
08-07-2011, 10:58 PM
scottishryan is the guy who's giving up weekend booze. Some weekends the succeeds, and other times we tell him off if he's been naughty. :)

gotcha

scottishryan
09-07-2011, 06:41 AM
scottishryan is the guy who's giving up weekend booze. Some weekends the succeeds, and other times we tell him off if he's been naughty. :)

I buggered it again :o I will not touch alcohol this Saturday night...shout at me if I do guys! I have been wobbling like goodness knows what the latter part of this week. At least I am up early with a nice pot of veg soup cooking away for the day :D

I need to break my bad habit cycle...Feck its hard but I will succeed :)

plam
09-07-2011, 11:40 AM
No, but ive been with dr young a few times when he did the light experiment - he did it at the microscopy training too.

I've been to few magicians shows too. ;) If you are serious about the science you should try to recreate it yourself form A to Z.

plam
09-07-2011, 11:45 AM
I buggered it again :o I will not touch alcohol this Saturday night...shout at me if I do guys! I have been wobbling like goodness knows what the latter part of this week. At least I am up early with a nice pot of veg soup cooking away for the day :D

I need to break my bad habit cycle...Feck its hard but I will succeed :)

I sell alcohol for a living, mostly natural wines and let me tell you, you guilty conscious about it is what makes it harder for you to control your habits.

I only drink a 2-3 glasses of natural wine with my dinner that's all. And it could be weeks without drinking any. I do taste a lot though but also spit it.

Moderate amount of alcohol is no harm. But like with pain you need to feel your cravings for it and acknowledge it to yourself, and do not come here to report as if this is some alcoholics anonymous group.

You need to deal with it on your own and start by not feeling guilty about it. ;)

domathy
09-07-2011, 12:06 PM
I buggered it again :o I will not touch alcohol this Saturday night...shout at me if I do guys! I have been wobbling like goodness knows what the latter part of this week. At least I am up early with a nice pot of veg soup cooking away for the day :D

I need to break my bad habit cycle...Feck its hard but I will succeed :)

What plam says is maybe true. Are you really ready to quit altogether?
If yes then go for it and keep plugging away. Otherwise, have it and enjoy if but keep compensating with hydration and good food. But dont let anyone tell you its wrong to want to quit alcohol if its a personal abition to be free of it. And we enjoy your weekly reports to please continue to keep us posted.

I've been to few magicians shows too. ;) If you are serious about the science you should try to recreate it yourself form A to
Z.

yeah, yeah :)
But science was never really my thing.

I sell alcohol for a living, mostly natural wines and let me tell you, you guilty conscious about it is what makes it harder for you to control your habits.

I only drink a 2-3 glasses of natural wine with my dinner that's all. And it could be weeks without drinking any. I do taste a lot though but also spit it.

Moderate amount of alcohol is no harm. But like with pain you need to feel your cravings for it and acknowledge it to yourself, and do not come here to report as if this is some alcoholics anonymous group.

You need to deal with it on your own and start by not feeling guilty about it. ;)

Ah so youre a dealer :p
Alcohol does harm you, and so does sugar and meat. But, its all relative to the degree to which your body can compensate and eliminate toxins (ie health of liver, mineral reserves etc). Everyone has different health goals - and so for some people they feel it is important to quit alcohol altogether. It is not possible to achieve optimum health whilst drinking alcohol - but that doesnt mean to say that people cant survive or be relatively healthy whilst continuing alcohol.

I agree that guilt is a wasted emotion though.

plam
09-07-2011, 02:17 PM
Ah so youre a dealer :p
Alcohol does harm you, and so does sugar and meat. But, its all relative to the degree to which your body can compensate and eliminate toxins (ie health of liver, mineral reserves etc). Everyone has different health goals - and so for some people they feel it is important to quit alcohol altogether. It is not possible to achieve optimum health whilst drinking alcohol - but that doesnt mean to say that people cant survive or be relatively healthy whilst continuing alcohol.I agree that guilt is a wasted emotion though.

Dealer with ethics, can you believe it? :D I tell people that wine is not so good after all.

But striving for optimum health is unhealthy too. I'll explain.

Like the moon, we all have a bright and a darker side. The two work in a tandem and are mutually inclusive. Your bright side wants you to be perfectly healthy whereas the darker one is the more adventurous.

If you let your darker side take over, you'll become an obese alcoholic with a growing drug addiction. If you let your bright side take over you'll become a health freak who is not fun to be around with and rather dumb. Have you notice that all intellectual and creative geniuses lead a quite unhealthy way of life by our standards?

So you see, a little indulgence is in fact healthy as it maintains the equilibrium, it feeds the darker side, which otherwise will feel oppressed and will one day take over completely. ;)
So take it easy with these liver flushes as your liver will one day become so clean it will crave alcohol and then you'll need me! :D

leon11
09-07-2011, 03:05 PM
Dealer with ethics, can you believe it? :D I tell people that wine is not so good after all.

But striving for optimum health is unhealthy too. I'll explain.

Like the moon, we all have a bright and a darker side. The two work in a tandem and are mutually inclusive. Your bright side wants you to be perfectly healthy whereas the darker one is the more adventurous.

If you let your darker side take over, you'll become an obese alcoholic with a growing drug addiction. If you let your bright side take over you'll become a health freak who is not fun to be around with and rather dumb. Have you notice that all intellectual and creative geniuses lead a quite unhealthy way of life by our standards?

So you see, a little indulgence is in fact healthy as it maintains the equilibrium, it feeds the darker side, which otherwise will feel oppressed and will one day take over completely. ;)
So take it easy with these liver flushes as your liver will one day become so clean it will crave alcohol and then you'll need me! :D

Im enjoyin this debate =) and yeh this sounds spot on to me....
Domathy has helped a few of us with this actually, keeping our feet on the ground so to speak and not getting too obsessed.

Its a hard balance

domathy
09-07-2011, 03:30 PM
Dealer with ethics, can you believe it? :D I tell people that wine is not so good after all.

But striving for optimum health is unhealthy too. I'll explain.

Like the moon, we all have a bright and a darker side. The two work in a tandem and are mutually inclusive. Your bright side wants you to be perfectly healthy whereas the darker one is the more adventurous.

If you let your darker side take over, you'll become an obese alcoholic with a growing drug addiction. If you let your bright side take over you'll become a health freak who is not fun to be around with and rather dumb. Have you notice that all intellectual and creative geniuses lead a quite unhealthy way of life by our standards?

So you see, a little indulgence is in fact healthy as it maintains the equilibrium, it feeds the darker side, which otherwise will feel oppressed and will one day take over completely. ;)
So take it easy with these liver flushes as your liver will one day become so clean it will crave alcohol and then you'll need me! :D

Well, yes and no. The implication there is that we need our dark side in the first place (or that we cant defeat/transcend it). I personally think the dark side is a foreign installation - the reptillian brain/R-complex. They say the lizard brain allows us to respond to danger, but i believe danger only exists because of the lizard brain - PRS (problem reaction solution) in our brain. And the moon is all dark from my understanding, and is there to disrupt so is also a foreign installation (so that was an appropriate reference :)). The sun doesnt have a dark side though.

Creativity fuelled by darkness will produce dark creations - just look at the world (how we have turned it into a shite hole by allowing imbalanced intellectuals and creative people to run the place) - we have stupid inventions :rolleyes: like the internal combustion (male energy) engine - when we should be harnessing implosion (female energy). Guns, bombs, rockets (male) - big pharma (male)
I see lots of creativity and genius but its not tempered with wisdom - its used for money making and war. All my favorite amazing music was made by drug fuelled artists (house, D&B, trance etc) and i just dont resonate with it anymore. Even most 'comedy' isnt all that funny anymore. True that my biggest 'laughs' came from drug fuelled adventures - but i have had glimpses of something far better. Most of my best memories of recent years have come from living in a place of innocent playfulness and there is more to laugh about from this POV then i could ever have imagined. It was all south park ('creative genius') style laughs before - but thats so tired now.

I am an all or nothing type, but moderation is fine, if you can achieve it, but it is also possible to be very happy and balannced without ingesting poison. You can get natural highs and through yoga and meditation i have felt highs way better than any drug, plus the insights/creativity you receive is more balanced and harmonious with the will of creation. People might find you boring but thats their problem, billions of people resonating with the same thing = herd mentality. Its not lonely at the top, but its certainly less crowded :D

Indulgence is sometimes needed as, this planet is messed up and it can be hard to sustain a high vibration and high frequency diet - but its not essential for balance in the grand scheme. To poison or not to poison is a very personal thing

domathy
09-07-2011, 03:36 PM
This 'dark side of the moon' thing is discussed in more detail in this thread:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=174984

Just skip to post #8 - princessofwands talks about the reptillian brain or the 'foreign installation'

I share my experiences of how to defeat (well, kind of) the lizard brain.

domathy
09-07-2011, 03:51 PM
And the reason people find non-dark stuff boring is because it doesnt reflect pain, suffering, darkness or personal struggle - thats all. People subconsciously equate freedom from pain and suffering with being boring. We are conditioned to believe life is about emotional upheaval and strife and are more addicted to our emotional states than a heroin addict.