psychic ability

[ethanmya]

Hello all, need some advice here with regards to some weird stuff that has been going on with myself for quite sometime now. As a little girl, I suffered horrific physical and sexual abuse at the hands of my father. From 2yrs up until the age of 7yrs. Since a baby ive always had very vivid sometimes frightening dreams, and ive always felt a presence around me. Im 29 now and have 2 kids. My little boy who is 9 and my little girl who is 4. Since the birth of my daughter, the feeling of people around me has become so much stronger and now I can see orbs and lights around people. As this sixth sense is becoming stronger, more memories are coming back to me of my childhood. I feel as though i have a guardian who is giving me a coping mechanism. I am aware of a presence in my room with me every night when I sleep and can often hear talking as if there are people in the room with me. Often when im sat infront of the T.v, not just at home but anywhere the channels switch over by themselves. I have recently found out my great grandmother who passed over before before i was born was a medium. I have spoken to various psychics who have tried to teach me how to meditate but my concentration is very bad. My blood group is also rhesus negative. I have read that people with this blood group tend to be a bit more sensitive with regards to tapping into there sixth sense. It would be very helpful to me if anybody could give me advice on how to channel and use this this properly, as sometimes i feel like im losing the plot. There are so many ignorant people these days that when you start talking about things like this they think your a weirdo. Thankyou all for having such open minds. love Nichola.

[kblood]

Arent the orbs of light auras? Do they have different colors? If so, it should be something that can be looked up, so you can interpret it. I believe intuition is probably more precise though if you can already see the aura.

[ethanmya]

The lights i see are white. Apart from one which I see all of the time out of the corner of my eye to my side which is bright blue?

[nuit]

Hello all, need some advice here with regards to some weird stuff that has been going on with myself for quite sometime now. As a little girl, I suffered horrific physical and sexual abuse at the hands of my father. From 2yrs up until the age of 7yrs. Since a baby ive always had very vivid sometimes frightening dreams, and ive always felt a presence around me. Im 29 now and have 2 kids. My little boy who is 9 and my little girl who is 4. Since the birth of my daughter, the feeling of people around me has become so much stronger and now I can see orbs and lights around people. As this sixth sense is becoming stronger, more memories are coming back to me of my childhood. I feel as though i have a guardian who is giving me a coping mechanism. I am aware of a presence in my room with me every night when I sleep and can often hear talking as if there are people in the room with me. Often when im sat infront of the T.v, not just at home but anywhere the channels switch over by themselves. I have recently found out my great grandmother who passed over before before i was born was a medium. I have spoken to various psychics who have tried to teach me how to meditate but my concentration is very bad. My blood group is also rhesus negative. I have read that people with this blood group tend to be a bit more sensitive with regards to tapping into there sixth sense. It would be very helpful to me if anybody could give me advice on how to channel and use this this properly, as sometimes i feel like im losing the plot. There are so many ignorant people these days that when you start talking about things like this they think your a weirdo. Thankyou all for having such open minds. love Nichola.

everyone has an ability to psychically tune in but few do, i really would work on enhancing your talent, the benefits could be amazing

[nuit]

Arent the orbs of light auras? Do they have different colors? If so, it should be something that can be looked up, so you can interpret it. I believe intuition is probably more precise though if you can already see the aura.

as far as i am aware orbs cannot be seen by the naked eye

[ethanmya]

Ive been doing some reading up on the matter. A lot of psychics say that psychic ability becomes stronger as we get older. Just have to see how it develops. Its strange because at one time the thought of it used to terrify me. Now im fascinated by it...

[nuit]

now that is where i would disagree, children are more open to psychic goings on because there minds are more open and they are less sceptic in their thoughts

[lottie]

now that is where i would disagree, children are more open to psychic goings on because there minds are more open and they are less sceptic in their thoughts

True, they are less conditioned, less indoctrinated, so innocence is purer....

although im sure if you can develop your ability from childhood through practice and encouragement from parents/peers i reckon it would get stronger/easier to achieve .......:)

[nuit]

True, they are less conditioned, less indoctrinated, so innocence is purer....

although im sure if you can develop your ability from childhood through practice and encouragement from parents/peers i reckon it would get stronger/easier to achieve .......:)

agreed

[ethanmya]

now that is where i would disagree, children are more open to psychic goings on because there minds are more open and they are less sceptic in their thoughts

Your right I agree, but my childhood was horrific and i suffered horrendously at the hands of my own parent. It wasnt until I became older that I began to have a better understanding that if something wasnt of this world then it couldnt be of any physical harm. It sounds mad! i know. But thats when I began to embrace it more..

[nuit]

everything that occurs in your life whether bad or good is all experience and makes us the people we become

[serpentoffire]

Ive been doing some reading up on the matter. A lot of psychics say that psychic ability becomes stronger as we get older. Just have to see how it develops. Its strange because at one time the thought of it used to terrify me. Now im fascinated by it...

This could be true. My abilities grew only in the last 10 years, but I ever had something since I was child.

[serpentoffire]

Hello all, need some advice here with regards to some weird stuff that has been going on with myself for quite sometime now. As a little girl, I suffered horrific physical and sexual abuse at the hands of my father. From 2yrs up until the age of 7yrs. Since a baby ive always had very vivid sometimes frightening dreams, and ive always felt a presence around me. Im 29 now and have 2 kids. My little boy who is 9 and my little girl who is 4.

This experience created a dissociation in your mind. The same technique is used by Illuminati to create their slaves. You'll find a lot of analogies in this book with your experience:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/32757/5Bconspiracy5D-The-Illuminati-Formula-Used-to-Create-an-Undetectable-Total-Mind-Controlled-Slave

This dissociation, like out-of-body experiences, help spirits (reptilians) to attack you and sometime to allow the body possession.


Since the birth of my daughter, the feeling of people around me has become so much stronger and now I can see orbs and lights around people.

Orbs are the thinking part of spirits. Sometime they appear as flying winged serpent with an dark/silver orb inside. You can see the aura in the persons in front of you: this allow you to evaluate better the persons that you meet. This is a form of telepaty.


As this sixth sense is becoming stronger, more memories are coming back to me of my childhood. I feel as though i have a guardian who is giving me a coping mechanism. I am aware of a presence in my room with me every night when I sleep and can often hear talking as if there are people in the room with me.

Gifted persons have around a lot of entities that spend the time to torment, scare and deceive to get your energy and bring you far from God. Send away these presences prying and using the name of Jesus.


Often when im sat infront of the T.v, not just at home but anywhere the channels switch over by themselves. I have recently found out my great grandmother who passed over before before i was born was a medium. I have spoken to various psychics who have tried to teach me how to meditate but my concentration is very bad. My blood group is also rhesus negative. I have read that people with this blood group tend to be a bit more sensitive with regards to tapping into there sixth sense.

Spirits are able to interact with our technology: I had a direct experience with my laptop.
The gifts are inherited through your bloodline (DNA). Sometime this inheritage jump a generation like some genetic diseases.

Contact me via PM if you need help.

[deca]

I would also check here http://www.c-a-t-c-h.ca/ and other mind control & electronic harassment sites, you might of been targeted by one of their sick programs. If you think you have or not sure feel free to pm me.

Technological harassment can include:

* Sabotage/hacking of computer equipment and phones
* Use of audio and/or video surveillance to keep track of the target's whereabouts
* Banging and tapping of walls, windows and objects inside the house
* Vibrating objects, such as bed, chair or body parts
* Inexplicable behavior of anything electronic including TV, computer, car, and appliances (for example, TV turning on or off by itself)

Targets may experience the following physical symptoms:

* Dizziness, weakness
* Frequent headaches
* Extreme fatigue
* Intense, disruptive ear ringing
* Buzzing or clicking in the head, ears or sinuses
* Jolts and jerks to muscles
* Abdominal pain/nausea
* Mental confusion/inability to concentrate

[ethanmya]

I may have been targeted i dont know. What i went through was horrific and there are still events that i cant fully recall. Its just sickening that things like this are still happening all over the world and that nothing is being done to prevent it. The perverted bastards are still doing whatever the hell they like and no body is doing anything to stop them.

[serpentoffire]

The perverted bastards are still doing whatever the hell they like and no body is doing anything to stop them.

Because Satan and his fallen angels have control over spirits. Spirits have control over human slaves (freemasons, mormons, satanists, ..) that have phisical control over the rest of humanity through economy, institution, army, ...

Spirits recruits new slaves with a lot of ways including pedophilia. The passage of one o more spirits between two bodies requires a lot of energy. The sexual energy is what they need to complete the process. The same energy required to open chakras (see tantric practices).

[deca]

ethanmya, Sorry to hear that, you are not alone ok, There are people working hard to expose this,please stay calm, You are less likely to be influenced when you are calm and can think things through ok.

you can also join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MCVictimsEU/
there are many groups that you can join both from the abuse you have received and if you are under some kind of attack ok.

[ethanmya]

Thankyou for being so understanding. For years I thought I was going insane.

[deca]

Thankyou for being so understanding. For years I thought I was going insane.

I also have a thread on here, its a bit rough to start with, i did know much myself I thought I was going insane too.
ok.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617

Please understand I can`t tell if you have been targeted or not, That is something that you will have decided for yourself, based on your own experiences and reading about another TI`s(targeted individuals) ones.
I hope you are not,and your life goes back to normal.
There are a few Ti`s on this site and a few people that have suffered abuse.

[chicken]

Hi Ethanmya

I read your thread and saw that you needed some answers. Deca is right - you know yourself and you need to go on your own personal journey to find the truth for yourself.

I don't think anyone can tell you what the "truth" is for you. I suggest that you investigate and gather knowledge about other areas that have been part of your life - that have shaped your life. Good and bad ok!

Look back with an open mind. Remember the context.......this is important.

Do listen and take on board others experiences. This is helpful as you can engage in what they say relating to it or you ignore it and say thats not my experience. However never loose sight of what is not your experience and toss it out first hand. I discovered that there were a few things that required a second look and then found that they were relevant - very relevant indeed. Call it "blindspots" if you like...

I am a TI - a new one. I had my awakening 10 months ago. It was rudely awakened by two forced attempts on my life. I was normally going about things as you do. I want my life back. I am electronically harassed and cause stalked. I have discovered a side to humanity that is contrived and highly organised and also very destructive. I could not believe it at first.

Am I physchic? no not naturally. But my mind is read and can have half baked conversations with my attackers. I still find that unbelievable myself as being rational and still normal. However once discussed openly this don't make you appear normal. I have been interfered with - and I have witnesses who will vouch for that. As they have seen and heard the oddness going on around me whilst I calmly watch, listen and wait.

The antennae were up and waving? Oh! whats that?-thats not right.

Still in disbelief. This is a good place to be - "a form of protection" is disbelief. I discovered Deca's thread and this helped me broaden my research and my eyes were on stalks. I have had some strange interferences in the time this started to now, and I am referring to the stalking and harassment by people.

I am learning all the time and "always" sit on the fence. It is actually better to say nothing rather than force someone to join your belief system. But - be aware the bigger the mental health facility in the area - the bigger the harassment and cause stalking is. I am aware that "sheeple" do know about this. Cause stalkers do. This is the 21st century, using 20/21st century gadgets. I can't believe they do know they are participating in the destruction of someone. I suppose they are scared that it will happen to them. Someone pulls their strings right.

I have taken this journey - and now intend to put my story in trust. Attaching it to my will - so that when the next family members get my papers and trust details. It will follow them like a "curse". When this comes out - they will be aware and hopefully get the monetry benefits I should have got.

Read the thread - everyones input is so welcome. It helped me understand - but this may have set me up for life as a TI - they do not want you to get it. "its a secret" sssh!!

chicken

[ethanmya]

Hi chicken my friend, Its amazing how much people from this site understand me and understand what has actually been happening without thinking that im crazy. Ive never spoken about this to anyone until I joined this site. What you say about being electronically harrassed I feel for you, because this happens to me on a daily basis no matter were I go. If you want to pm me thats cool. I understand what you are going through TOTALLY!!! I hope you are ok?*

[saturn]

Hello all, need some advice here with regards to some weird stuff that has been going on with myself for quite sometime now. As a little girl, I suffered horrific physical and sexual abuse at the hands of my father. From 2yrs up until the age of 7yrs. Since a baby ive always had very vivid sometimes frightening dreams, and ive always felt a presence around me. Im 29 now and have 2 kids. My little boy who is 9 and my little girl who is 4. Since the birth of my daughter, the feeling of people around me has become so much stronger and now I can see orbs and lights around people. As this sixth sense is becoming stronger, more memories are coming back to me of my childhood. I feel as though i have a guardian who is giving me a coping mechanism. I am aware of a presence in my room with me every night when I sleep and can often hear talking as if there are people in the room with me. Often when im sat infront of the T.v, not just at home but anywhere the channels switch over by themselves. I have recently found out my great grandmother who passed over before before i was born was a medium. I have spoken to various psychics who have tried to teach me how to meditate but my concentration is very bad. My blood group is also rhesus negative. I have read that people with this blood group tend to be a bit more sensitive with regards to tapping into there sixth sense. It would be very helpful to me if anybody could give me advice on how to channel and use this this properly, as sometimes i feel like im losing the plot. There are so many ignorant people these days that when you start talking about things like this they think your a weirdo. Thankyou all for having such open minds. love Nichola.

i can relate to what you're saying because i can sense spirits around me very, very strongly. when i'm in my room at night especially. there are so many times when i've sensed a presence in the same room as me; i can be in the room with a friend and i'll sense the presence just as strongly as the flesh and blood friend who is with me. i've had numerous experiences. and one time i heard a voice.


Quote:
Technological harassment can include:

* Sabotage/hacking of computer equipment and phones
* Use of audio and/or video surveillance to keep track of the target's whereabouts
* Banging and tapping of walls, windows and objects inside the house
* Vibrating objects, such as bed, chair or body parts
* Inexplicable behavior of anything electronic including TV, computer, car, and appliances (for example, TV turning on or off by itself)

Targets may experience the following physical symptoms:

* Dizziness, weakness
* Frequent headaches
* Extreme fatigue
* Intense, disruptive ear ringing
* Buzzing or clicking in the head, ears or sinuses
* Jolts and jerks to muscles
* Abdominal pain/nausea
* Mental confusion/inability to concentrate


there has not been any electronic disturbances but i do suffer from dizzy spells, fatigue, ear ringing, clicking in the ears, jolts and jerks to muscles, nausea, inability to concentrate. i thought my ability to sense spirits just meant i was clairyosensitive or whatever it's called.


is this mind control harrassment? can someone help me on this?

[deca]

is this mind control harrassment? can someone help me on this?

I can not tell, you will have to figure that out by talking/reading other TI`s stuff,they do try and confuse attack people differently to hide there sick work.

you can try here as well

http://www.mindcontrol-victims.eu/

there are a lot of people coming forward and trying to expose this now.

[angelicangel]

I would think you have a guardian angel looking after your needs. Dont be afraid of them as they are there to help you when you are feeling down. I know I have a guardian angel looking after me, and that is my mother. I feel her here when times get bad, I can even smell her perfume, even hearing her climbing the stairs when no one else in the home. All I tend to say is Hello Mum are you alright. Even my children have started to do the same, it does help to think it could be your Grandmother who has come to take you under her wing. I hope this gives you a little bit of ease and not to worry about the future, things will get better.:D

[serpentoffire]

I would think you have a guardian angel looking after your needs. Dont be afraid of them as they are there to help you when you are feeling down. I know I have a guardian angel looking after me, and that is my mother. I feel her here when times get bad, I can even smell her perfume, even hearing her climbing the stairs when no one else in the home. All I tend to say is Hello Mum are you alright. Even my children have started to do the same, it does help to think it could be your Grandmother who has come to take you under her wing. I hope this gives you a little bit of ease and not to worry about the future, things will get better.:D

He, he, he, spirits use always the same tricks with humans. :D

After somebody passes away they start to manifest their self using odors, coming in your dream with the face or the voice of your death, or making something of more phisical like moving doors, bumping inside your closet, touching you, etc.

Don't interact with them.

Yes, you have a guardian angel but he is evil and he wants control your life. Real angels are under direct control of God and usually they don't have interactions with humans. Spirits need instead to use human energies as food.

They know all of our life because they live between us.
They know our past and our future.
They use telepaty to work on our weaknesses to divert us from the God's way and generate negative energies.

Stay far from spirits and send them away.

[pleasuredome]

as far as i am aware orbs cannot be seen by the naked eye

i see them

[neil]

I don't think you read the intial post properly, Lottie....

[kblood]

He, he, he, spirits use always the same tricks with humans. :D

After somebody passes away they start to manifest their self using odors, coming in your dream with the face or the voice of your death, or making something of more phisical like moving doors, bumping inside your closet, touching you, etc.

Don't interact with them.

Yes, you have a guardian angel but he is evil and he wants control your life. Real angels are under direct control of God and usually they don't have interactions with humans. Spirits need instead to use human energies as food.

They know all of our life because they live between us.
They know our past and our future.
They use telepaty to work on our weaknesses to divert us from the God's way and generate negative energies.

Stay far from spirits and send them away.

I disagree that they are all just imitating to be a deceased person, but then again, I do not recommend it either. They always give me the creeps, but at least it I havent had to deal with any for years.

After dying they if we and our souls might get closer connected to a greater spirit that connects several, and therefore I guess they can be mistaken for not being that person at all, but part of them might be. I have heard of and had genuine messages with any evil agenda behind them. Only trying to help family left behind.

I am really surprised you havent met any good natured spirits.

[serpentoffire]

I disagree that they are all just imitating to be a deceased person, but then again, I do not recommend it either.

Read this article:http://stargods.org/HumansNephilimReptilians.htm

"In the book of Enoch (http://www.carm.org/lost/enoch.htm) we are told that when the Nephilim died, their spirits remained on the earth to become what the Bible calls demons. As we know from scripture demons can enter into the unsaved and possess them. This is what I call the Silent Invasion (http://stargods.org/SilentInvasion.htm). Now as for the Reptilians, it would appear that their spirits can enter in and possess flesh too. But there is a difference. Reptilian spirits can not only possess a host, but they are able to shape shift into their original Reptilian form."

[daria]

This is a good thread, Thank you. Lots of good info and links.

Serpentoffire, I usually like your posts, there is one thing that I don't agree with however. Let me tell you a little tale.

Just under a year ago there was a fire at the flat [apartment] above mine.
The fire happened in the morning, when were still asleep. Through a dream I heard male voice saying there is a woman in there, there is a woman in there.
I did not wake up.

Then my mother appeared, she said: "I did not die." She did die a physical death the year before. I woke up. Still did not know about the fire. Went into the living room, opened the curtains, saw fire engines and police cars.

Went out onto the balcony, out the front door. There was my next door neighbour. He said: "I tried to knock and knock, but you woulnd't wake up" I asked him what is going on. They [his wife and him] told me about the fire upstairs. I came back in just in time to see that the water [firemen hosing] was starting to drip on to my laptop. This one I'm tapping right now. I started screaming for my son to get up and start moving electrical thing out the way.

Then I smelled the nausiating smell of burning plastic. You should have seen the upstairs TV. It was like surrealist Salvador Dali sculpture. The flat was completely gutted.

Now - if my mother had not appeared, I think I would still be alive, but I would not be communicating with this machine with you. And lot of other stuff would be rotting in some landfill site. My mother was always very frugal. She would not want waste. I love her, and she really was there doing her good bit.

[pleasuredome]

Read this article:http://stargods.org/HumansNephilimReptilians.htm

"In the book of Enoch (http://www.carm.org/lost/enoch.htm) we are told that when the Nephilim died, their spirits remained on the earth to become what the Bible calls demons. As we know from scripture demons can enter into the unsaved and possess them. This is what I call the Silent Invasion (http://stargods.org/SilentInvasion.htm). Now as for the Reptilians, it would appear that their spirits can enter in and possess flesh too. But there is a difference. Reptilian spirits can not only possess a host, but they are able to shape shift into their original Reptilian form."

the bible and book of enoch are proof that all spirits are 'evil'?

[serpentoffire]

if my mother had not appeared, I think I would still be alive, but I would not be communicating with this machine with you. And lot of other stuff would be rotting in some landfill site. My mother was always very frugal. She would not want waste. I love her, and she really was there doing her good bit.

I had something more of a dream. My little child had a viral disease. Me and my wife were on the bed sleeping. During the night a little hand with three fingers shacked my leg so I woke up. I went to measure my child's fever and he was very hot. So the entity helped me to save my child.

As you saw my and your guardian spirit sometime help us. Sometime they make also miracles for their victims so them think to have near a good spirit, something that protect them. But this is only a tactic of spirits.

[serpentoffire]

the bible and book of enoch are proof that all spirits are 'evil'?

The proof is under your nose everyday.

[kblood]

Read this article:http://stargods.org/HumansNephilimReptilians.htm

"In the book of Enoch (http://www.carm.org/lost/enoch.htm) we are told that when the Nephilim died, their spirits remained on the earth to become what the Bible calls demons. As we know from scripture demons can enter into the unsaved and possess them. This is what I call the Silent Invasion (http://stargods.org/SilentInvasion.htm). Now as for the Reptilians, it would appear that their spirits can enter in and possess flesh too. But there is a difference. Reptilian spirits can not only possess a host, but they are able to shape shift into their original Reptilian form."

That just does not rule out our spirit or soul staying. Spirits not looked for or believed in are less likely to be sensed or seen, since our subconcious will ignore them. Seems to take alot of effort for them to even show themselves.

I have never been possessed without allowing the entity to do so.

edit: that I know of of course :o

[serpentoffire]

That just does not rule out our spirit or soul staying.

As said soul and spirit are two vibrational state of our second body.
Our soul usually can't manifest itself in this plane of reality. But when this occur we can call it spirit. Souls can go only in two places: high vibrational state (said heaven) and low vibrational state (said hell). The hell is a place located inside the inner earth, superimposed vibrationally to earth plasma (hollow earth). Spirits instead live in a vibrational state named limbo, not the hell and not the heaven, but a state where the second body is able to interact in our plane of reality, sharing the same space where we live. Catholic church call it also purgatory.


Spirits not looked for or believed in are less likely to be sensed or seen, since our subconcious will ignore them.

They manifest themselves when we try to continue our relation with our deaths, deceiving our mind with false projections.


Seems to take alot of effort for them to even show themselves.

In fact they wait the sun spots energy to do it.
Today is a quiet day
http://www.n3kl.org/sun/images/noaa_kp_3d.gif


I have never been possessed without allowing the entity to do so.

I think that you have to avoid all type of possession from spirits.
Why don't nobody want to be possessed by God? Stupid humans.
Call Jesus, Holy spirit and God. It is better than spirits possession.
I can assure you!!!

[angelicangel]

Well i certainly seem to have started something about guardian angels. One my father was no sort of demon, might have been while alive, but his heart and soul definatley was true peace. Lets face it, what harm can the dead do to you, the living are the people that can hurt and harm everyone. I know that for a fact, no dead person can do the harm and hurt that our so called human race can do to one another. My mind is set on helping people and making them safe and secure, not to cause anyone any abuse. I was trying to help someone who had fear in her heart and try to ease the burden of worrying about the dead.:p

[kblood]

As said soul and spirit are two vibrational state of our second body.
Our soul usually can't manifest itself in this plane of reality. But when this occur we can call it spirit. Souls can go only in two places: high vibrational state (said heaven) and low vibrational state (said hell). The hell is a place located inside the inner earth, superimposed vibrationally to earth plasma (hollow earth). Spirits instead live in a vibrational state named limbo, not the hell and not the heaven, but a state where the second body is able to interact in our plane of reality, sharing the same space where we live. Catholic church call it also purgatory.

I have summoned spirits/ghosts/souls, and some have come to me. Im not an expert I have to admit, but I know how to sense a person on a deeper level as I see it. You can recognise a person in more ways than just what you think you see. You seem very influenced by the catholic church which in my oppinion paints everything way too black and white.

They manifest themselves when we try to continue our relation with our deaths, deceiving our mind with false projections.
Still, cant be proven, either way. It could be all in our heads, if not having felt it personally and it gave you information that you could not just have guessed. So alot is about assumptions in all of this, so much about assumptions that to experience the truth you would have to be without assumptions of any kind, which is virtually impossible.

Spirits seems to react like "the law of attraction" theory, making your thoughts come true alot faster.

In fact they wait the sun spots energy to do it.
Today is a quiet day
http://www.n3kl.org/sun/images/noaa_kp_3d.gif
Oh yes, my theory is that the Sun is a means of travel for souls and spirits. Lets say we die, the sun becomes something else in the other dimension of being we enter, and it can be used as a... galactic stargate I guess, taking us to the next place of our existance, whatever that may be, and if not just getting recycled in some way.

I think that you have to avoid all type of possession from spirits.
Why don't nobody want to be possessed by God? Stupid humans.
Call Jesus, Holy spirit and God. It is better than spirits possession.
I can assure you!!!

Maybe I have, how would I know the difference? As I see it, the only difference between god and spirits is that god is the spirit of everthing, so how to notice the difference between god and Gaia, the spirit of Earth? How would I be able to know the difference between god and some very good natured spirit?

What if I was a cynic who believed god to be evil and just using us all as chess pieces for its own amusement? Would god then still even seem a being of enlightenment in my mind, if it were to enter my mind?

[pleasuredome]

The proof is under your nose everyday.

what a sweet non-answer

[angelicangel]

We all have someone to look up to. What ever the name of the person, but things can look good if that person has the same beliefs as you. Looking across the nations of the world, a lot of trouble is caused through religion. If they was only to think that there is one God, whether it is called one name or another. Then we would all think that we are all the same flesh blood and everything that goes with the human race.:p

[serpentoffire]

I have summoned spirits/ghosts/souls, and some have come to me. Im not an expert I have to admit, but I know how to sense a person on a deeper level as I see it. You can recognise a person in more ways than just what you think you see. You seem very influenced by the catholic church which in my oppinion paints everything way too black and white.

IMO you are deceived by occultism's teaching.


Still, cant be proven, either way. It could be all in our heads, if not having felt it personally and it gave you information that you could not just have guessed. So alot is about assumptions in all of this, so much about assumptions that to experience the truth you would have to be without assumptions of any kind, which is virtually impossible.

I explained the typical tactic that they use. I found the same pattern in several histories of friend (real persons, not my mind).


Spirits seems to react like "the law of attraction" theory, making your thoughts come true alot faster.

That's correct.


Oh yes, my theory is that the Sun is a means of travel for souls and spirits. Lets say we die, the sun becomes something else in the other dimension of being we enter, and it can be used as a... galactic stargate I guess, taking us to the next place of our existance, whatever that may be, and if not just getting recycled in some way.

Stars and black holes are points of demodulation and modulation between parallel universes.


Maybe I have, how would I know the difference? As I see it, the only difference between god and spirits is that god is the spirit of everthing, so how to notice the difference between god and Gaia, the spirit of Earth? How would I be able to know the difference between god and some very good natured spirit?

I felt this difference. God is more, more, more strong than other spirits. His spirit is fresh, pure, white. Other spirits are dark and evil, they watch you with envy.

[serpentoffire]

what a sweet non-answer
:D:D:D:D

[kblood]

IMO you are deceived by occultism's teaching.

I felt this difference. God is more, more, more strong than other spirits. His spirit is fresh, pure, white. Other spirits are dark and evil, they watch you with envy.

The "oocultism" teachings are just how I have experienced it, long before I ever looked into pagan and wiccan stuff. So you are saying the "true" religion did not became known to us before the Catholic church came? That we had simply got it all wrong for 10 thousand years?

The "only one good spirit which is god" and many angels which we cannot get in touch with theory, I just cant buy that. That is oversimplifying it way too much, I would even call it racism on a spiritual plane :D You just havent explained why some then just give away knowledge and or wisdom, while being content with its state of being.

I also do not believe you can simply call upon or get possessed by "the god". To many entities of that magnitude on the spiritual plane to know one from another if they are good. Why exactly is this "god presence" more true than good natured spirits? Why is it not Gaia, thinking itself god? Why would god even be a conciousness able to enter us at all? If angels cant, it seems even less logical that god can, especially without having good spirits as messengers at least.

IMO you are decieved by catholic teachings, which were the first to define the occult as far as I know, in the first place. I doubt you condone of the great witch hunt, which imo was clear proof how much the church truly feared these openminded people who would not lock their minds into the catholic religion. Similar to when the US outlawed communism during the cold war, to be able to dispose of threats of any kind, always having an irefutable claim for it being reightous.

I know there have been many using it to cast curses, and probably did lots of evil, but every group has its bad apples.

[serpentoffire]

The "oocultism" teachings are just how I have experienced it, long before I ever looked into pagan and wiccan stuff. So you are saying the "true" religion did not became known to us before the Catholic church came? That we had simply got it all wrong for 10 thousand years?

I know what occultism believe about supernatural world so I understand why you are skeptic about my point of view. I remember you that all the occultism and divination came from Jewish history (old Babylonia, Egypt, ...). But I reject all this because come from the teaching of Lucifer and his slaves and it's banned from God's law (YHVH), according as wrote in the bible.


The "only one good spirit which is god" and many angels which we cannot get in touch with theory, I just cant buy that.

Do you think that really Azzazel, Astaroth, Lilith & Co. are waiting for your commands to heal or hurt somebody? Everything have a price, your soul.
If you call God o Jesus help you don't have to sell your soul to nobody, a big difference.

[kblood]

I know what occultism believe about supernatural world so I understand why you are skeptic about my point of view. I remember you that all the occultism and divination came from Jewish history (old Babylonia, Egypt, ...). But I reject all this because come from the teaching of Lucifer and his slaves and it's banned from God's law (YHVH), according as wrote in the bible.

Old babylon has not really been proven evil imo. I recently watched some vids about Babylon, Atlantis and 2-3 other cities where made by our ancestors. Back in that time oneness seemed to be the belief, before these 4 cities they all were together in one tribe, and later they then got into some disagreements and spread out into these cities. The vids are called "Legend of Atlantis" and can be found on youtube I think. Was posted on this forum earlier. It fits alot better with my beliefs, since I really do not believe in so many being so misead, if that is true then god is one evil old manipulative being. Undeniably so. I can recommend watching these vids. There are 5 of them, but I think the first one is about the ancient 4-5 great cities.

Since I do not believe in it all being a battle of winning and loosing souls (to me it seems an obvious way to get money from the followers of the Church, especially back then, and also making a god-fearing people. Maybe you dont agree god is not someone to fear? It also sounds as if you do not believe redemption is possible for all?



Do you think that really Azzazel, Astaroth, Lilith & Co. are waiting for your commands to heal or hurt somebody? Everything have a price, your soul.
If you call God o Jesus help you don't have to sell your soul to nobody, a big difference.

I do not care how I heal (most the time), I visualise it and it is granted. I usually do not ask, since I do not believe it is something to just do every time you feel like it. When I feel it is the right thing to do, then I do try to heal, and I do not ask or pray for it, I just visualise it and believe it to be so. I am not Wiccan or following pagan "gods" or idols, I do not worship higher beings, unless they would show themselves to me, and I guess that would more likely make me suspicious.

How did people do good before god "came"? What chance did anyone have to be good according to christian lore before Christ came to Earth?

To me the church seems to have been propaganda made by people who intended to control us. Why do you trust a book which so obviously has been tampered with to make it suit the purpose of the church? Why is it any different to ask "saints" for someone to be healed, or some benevolent spirit, who imo might be the very same in the end?

[kblood]

To sum up my belief, it seems illogical to me that we would ever need books to tell us what to believe. Maybe you havent thought about books basicly all being occultism, using runes, sigils, letters and so on to control us? I know there is much truth to be found in books, but I believe in personal experience more. You seem to do so as well, to some extent.

I hope I am not insulting you, but I always enjoy a good debate on these matters and I try to learn all that I can. Basicly what offends me most about christianity and similar religions is how there is a god who is supposed to be all good, but in the end seems to be much more manipulative than anything else, since god did it all with a intention. As I see it, I believe it to be several conciousness' that collectivily makes up what I would define as god.

I havent really figured out what your definition of god is... all around us, within us all, god is everything, god is within everything living, god is... ran out of ideas...?

[serpentoffire]

Maybe you dont agree god is not someone to fear? It also sounds as if you do not believe redemption is possible for all?

God is someone to love. Fear is for his enemies.
Redemption is possible for who have no made a precise choiche for Satan.


How did people do good before god "came"? What chance did anyone have to be good according to christian lore before Christ came to Earth?

God is ever existed. Christ opened the possibility of humans souls and several souls parked in the limbo to reach the heaven.


Why do you trust a book which so obviously has been tampered with to make it suit the purpose of the church?

Why do you believe to exoteric/occult/massonic books that have the purpose to deceive you totally?


Why is it any different to ask "saints" for someone to be healed, or some benevolent spirit, who imo might be the very same in the end?

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[kblood]

Why do you believe to exoteric/occult/massonic books that have the purpose to deceive you totally?

So when catholic you let a few books put all other books in these categories? I do not believe in books, which is why when I do read books, it is mostly fantasy, then at least I know I am decieved. I have read some books on magick, which then covered stuff like Wicca and differrent spell systems, and magick without a spellsystem. Seems to me the one without a spellsystem must be the most raw one, and therefore the truest one, not requiring books to use. The book is The Sorcerers Handbook I think. I have also read a book about spiritual hierachies, but I did not understand much of it, and I am not sure if it is really true, but I guess in your view it would seem logical putting all evil spirits in a hierachy...

Does this reply imply you believe the Bible has not been tampered, or is mostly true? If only mostly true, then how do you figure out what is and isnt true? If you believe all of the bible to be true, then why has it been rewritten several times? Is the King James Bible then the true bible? When and how was the first bible then made, and how did they choose to put it all together in the only way it could be true?


:confused::confused::confused:

My bad maybe, I just know some pray to saints, like the mother of Jesus, Magdalena in some cases, Joseph and whoever might have earned the title of saint.

What is your view on the pope?

Thanks for answering all these questions :) I know I am asking alot, but I hope you like to share your views, like I do.

[kblood]

I might as well admit that some of my experiences have been showing that it is true what you say Serpentoffire. True that it might all be a "war" of souls between good and evil. The good showing a guiding light for others to follow, while the other side forces people, tempts and manipulates to make us go that way instead. I just do not like to believe, I dont even want to believe in ghosts or spirits, because I know if I can stop believing that they exist at all, I will simply ignore them like almost everyone else. I have faith in that they are serving a purpose much like you said, although I believe them to be good and evil.

My overall view is that good and evil is a generally good thing. Like the glass is half full or half empty analogy I think its called. Progress comes out of these two forces balancing each other out. In a world with nothing but goodness, I believe it might be all a pink golden blur, or white... with so little to define anything as special or different. In oneness it is all the same. I cannot hate evil people, because I see them as necesarry. Some here say it is a giant prison here, but I do not believe that. As I see it, this place gives us the oppertunity to be good people. How do you be a good person, if it was a perfect world without evil? However justifiable evil is, it does not make it an excuse for doing evil, especially not when doing it conciously.

I hope I havent offended you Serpentoffire, but I like to challenge the beliefs of others to see how strong they are, and of course to learn :)

[serpentoffire]

Does this reply imply you believe the Bible has not been tampered, or is mostly true? If only mostly true, then how do you figure out what is and isn't true? If you believe all of the bible to be true, then why has it been rewritten several times? ....

The bible is a book inspired by God but wrote by humans. Several parts of the bible are copied by other ancient scripts before the bible. For example the ten commandments come from Egyptians death's prayer.


What is your view on the pope?

Puppet of zionists.

[kblood]

What is your view on Christ then? Was he the son of god, a very enlightened person or something else?

[serpentoffire]

What is your view on Christ then? Was he the son of god, a very enlightened person or something else?

There is no dubt. Like Cain was son of Lucifer and Eve, like nephilims were sons of fallen angels and human women (book of Enoch), then Yahshuah was son of Holy Spirit and Mary. The history shows us that it's possible the procreation between supernatural entities and humans, but frankly I can't explain how it's possible. The creatures result of this interbreeding have very special powers. The same powers presents in few men and women today that we call psychics, sensitives or healer. There are a lot of saints able to fly (levitation), have bilocation, have interaction with paranormal entities, have vision and predict the future, etc. Yahshuah as human was the great exorcist and healer ever existed. He said that all he did was operated by the hand of God, and he never said that he was God. He was instead the word of God and the sacrificial sheep needed to save all us from the damnation.

[serpentoffire]

I might as well admit that some of my experiences have been showing that it is true what you say Serpentoffire. True that it might all be a "war" of souls between good and evil. The good showing a guiding light for others to follow, while the other side forces people, tempts and manipulates to make us go that way instead. I just do not like to believe, I dont even want to believe in ghosts or spirits, because I know if I can stop believing that they exist at all, I will simply ignore them like almost everyone else. I have faith in that they are serving a purpose much like you said, although I believe them to be good and evil.

My overall view is that good and evil is a generally good thing. Like the glass is half full or half empty analogy I think its called. Progress comes out of these two forces balancing each other out. In a world with nothing but goodness, I believe it might be all a pink golden blur, or white... with so little to define anything as special or different. In oneness it is all the same. I cannot hate evil people, because I see them as necesarry. Some here say it is a giant prison here, but I do not believe that. As I see it, this place gives us the oppertunity to be good people. How do you be a good person, if it was a perfect world without evil? However justifiable evil is, it does not make it an excuse for doing evil, especially not when doing it conciously.

I hope I havent offended you Serpentoffire, but I like to challenge the beliefs of others to see how strong they are, and of course to learn :)

I prefer to talk about energy, good and evil have no sense if you don't think to the associated energy to these actions. What we define as evil spirit is only an entity with missing energy. So they stimulate our mind to generate energy.

[kblood]

There is no dubt. Like Cain was son of Lucifer and Eve, like nephilims were sons of fallen angels and human women (book of Enoch), then Yahshuah was son of Holy Spirit and Mary. The history shows us that it's possible the procreation between supernatural entities and humans, but frankly I can't explain how it's possible. The creatures result of this interbreeding have very special powers. The same powers presents in few men and women today that we call psychics, sensitives or healer. There are a lot of saints able to fly (levitation), have bilocation, have interaction with paranormal entities, have vision and predict the future, etc. Yahshuah as human was the great exorcist and healer ever existed. He said that all he did was operated by the hand of God, and he never said that he was God. He was instead the word of God and the sacrificial sheep needed to save all us from the damnation.

But is it not eerily similar to the older religions and beliefs? Why does the real god need a sacrifical sheep in the first place? The whole jesus story makes him seem no different from the gods believed in, in the old days before Jesus.

My view on him is that he probably was a specially gifted spiritual person, able to do miracles, but blown out of proportion by the bible. There are probably many today, able to do the things he did then. Probably even better. It seems to me that he showed us that we are capable of love on higher planes than we thought, therefore heal and more.

Healing as I have been taught about it is quite natural. A healing touch, might as well just be called a touch, since touching is healing. At least when not using force :) A massage, a hug, a kiss, dancing, maybe even shaking hands. It is that easy, but with more focus on it, the healing can become more powerfull than a normal touch.

Same goes for telepathy, sensing spirits and so on. All quite natural and something we all do, but we probably ignore or are unaware what our subconcious is percieving. As I see it, its not just that our brain only gets used 10%, it is us who normally does not see or feel more than 10% of what we are sensing.

[bobjob123]

Ive been doing some reading up on the matter. A lot of psychics say that psychic ability becomes stronger as we get older. Just have to see how it develops. Its strange because at one time the thought of it used to terrify me. Now im fascinated by it...

you are right it gets stronger as you get old er I am 69 yrs old I was struck by lighting as child I had it for years belive me all I can see is coours around peoples bodies and some of the things you see with them is know very plesant belive me you cant tell anyone what you see I am new to this forum I ONLY CAME ON TO DAY KEEP IN TOUCH JOHN

[kblood]

you are right it gets stronger as you get old er I am 69 yrs old I was struck by lighting as child I had it for years belive me all I can see is coours around peoples bodies and some of the things you see with them is know very plesant belive me you cant tell anyone what you see I am new to this forum I ONLY CAME ON TO DAY KEEP IN TOUCH JOHN

Welcome :) I wouldnt say that it always gets stronger as you get older.

When I was a small kid, I was much more psychic than I am today, at least more psychic than I usually am today. As we grow up, we forgot about our psychic mind, and become used to ignoring it, unless we keep our focus and attention on it.

What changes the most as we grow older, I think, is that we are able to focus the psychic abilities better, instead of just using them as they come to us. As a child I would say it is our subconciousness that controls our psychic abilities, but when we grow older, we can learn to use them conciously.