Nightmares

[bootneckband]

My girlfriend has horrendous nightmares that start from the second she falls asleep...
She has an absolute vivid recollection of these nightmares down to the last detail,and often relives them in her awkened state in flash backs.

She has M.E. (long ago called yuppie flu) in which it is common for sufferers to feel they have the body of an 80year old (she is early 30's)

She has been suffering from these nightmares for over 12 years and they started when she was flying shorthall for an airline company.

There is very little information about this condition and doctors she has visited in the past just prescribe more drugs for her to take! and refuse to treat it as a Sleep Disorder....

No-one seems to take this seriously,even though its the thing that affects and ruins her life the most.

I feel there is another way and thought that a thread here may offer advice or at least give other sufferers of this condition a chance to share experiences that may, aleviated the problem.

Her nightmares,from what she has told me are almost always an attack (both physically and mentally ) on her person.Or they are full of fear and danger.

She needs to rest beacause of her M.E. (Myalgic Encaphomyleitis.....dunno about spelling) and then in her rest is subjected to these awful dreams.

Its like her soul is being 'played' with (my thoughts not hers).

Thank you in advance for any help....Bootneckband

[nuka]

I'm no expert, but I have found that the type I of dreams I have depend solely on my mood/mental state on the day. Good/happy/relaxed days always lead to either no dreams or happy dreams for lack of a better term.

On the flip side days when I am stressed/angry/anxious etc always lead to bad dreams/nightmares.

My remedy is cannabis. I'll tell you why, a few years ago I smoked all day every day and I had years of dreamless sleeps and only when I had no weed would I dream.

I quit smoking for 2 months and noticed the correlation I had with stress and bad dreams. The only time I smoke/eat now is when I am stressed and it really dos the job. Nigtmares play on my mind and they always involve a regret or an ex girlfriend for some reason, so I take steps to avoid them.

I suggest you look into this as a solution before trying it because if weed is not you or gf's thing you may be skeptical, though it can't be any worse than prescription meds.


Alternatively what any one into psycology would say is that dreams/nightmares are a reflection of unresolved issues wether they be concious or subconsious memories.

Good luck any way with finding a solution.

[truthseeker1980]

Cannabis is good but it doesn't stop u dreaming. It effects ur short term memory so u forget ur dream in the seconds upon waking.

I was the same as you, smoked heavily everyday for years, although it never helped with nightmares, only had about one a year, but I always remembered them upon waking even after proper heavy sessions.

Not smoked for a while, remember dreams much more now, but I have noticed an increase in nightmares recently but so have lots of others.

Still worth a try tho.

[blue2]

I know why cos i used to have them and was diagnosed with ME however in the Clinical and Scientific Basis of ME CFS by Byron Hyde, Florence Nightingale Research Foundation, Canada...i came across a page on Endocrinology many years ago whereby Armourthyroid and DHEA was getting patients better,many patients with so called ME have Hypothyroidism and it will more often than not be missed in NHS and mismanaged even if getting a diagnosis.

First of all go to Thyroid UK and Thyroid Patient Advocacy and Thyroid Tears and buy the book Tears Behind Closed Doors by Diana Homes, and look at Dr Gordon Skinner's book Hypothyroidism and it's Management,Thyroid About too. American thyroid Association too and i don't recommend synthetic levothyroxine she will not get well on it it will cause other diseases and injury and doses are too low to be well.

Symptoms are same as ME and sometimes Myasthenia Gravis and even MND some symptoms, many diseases occur if not treated and it is most common and mainly undiagnosed. I use Somatomed too by Vespro Life Sciences,it was clinically trialled for CFS. It is a 9 month treatment.

Also use Magnascent Iodine for thyroid too it is a must and she will have Magnesium and other Mineral deficiencies. www.red23.co.uk for Dr Mercola's B12 oral spray, amnd there is a Magnesium spray too. www.detoxyourworld.com for Ionic Minerals too,could try the Waters of Life minerals, if cannot afford all minerals.

I buy mine in and self treat as Dr's just mess things up upping and downing the doses.

The Broda Barnes technique of taking the temperature with old fashioned thermometer under the armpit or tongue for 60 seconds before getting out of bed each morning or on waking and also take pulse. At worst mine went down to 31bpm by which time i was almost a gonna. If you want to know anything more please feel free to pm me. Nothing will work until high enough doses of Armour and Adrenals need treating first so get 24 hr Saliva samples done and Thyroid see if Red Apple labs are still doing Urine test for thyroid,see thyroid uk for this info.

Urine picks up at tissue level faster than bloods of which changes each 45 seconds so often thyroid get missed if underactive. Dr's mostly do not know to make certain thyroid and adrenals have enough hormones cos it causes fatigue and exhaustion amongst other metabolic stuff. It is very serious. Osteoporosis occurs as does arthritis and spinal stenosis can happen too and Low perfusion blood flow to brainstem and cerebellar hemishperes, which is like stroke. It is cause of her Nightmares and thumps and bangs even hearing a dog barking or a door slamming too,but not really,and even hallucinating and not recognising voice of people you know over the phone or misinterpreting peoples meanings in conversations...muscle weakness, muscle pain. Symptoms list is endless.

[bootneckband]

Many thanks for the input and 'blue' thats some great info to keep me busy cheers..

Will post up any changes..

[ufochick]

My girlfriend has horrendous nightmares that start from the second she falls asleep...
She has an absolute vivid recollection of these nightmares down to the last detail,and often relives them in her awkened state in flash backs.

She has M.E. (long ago called yuppie flu) in which it is common for sufferers to feel they have the body of an 80year old (she is early 30's)

She has been suffering from these nightmares for over 12 years and they started when she was flying shorthall for an airline company.

There is very little information about this condition and doctors she has visited in the past just prescribe more drugs for her to take! and refuse to treat it as a Sleep Disorder....

No-one seems to take this seriously,even though its the thing that affects and ruins her life the most.

I feel there is another way and thought that a thread here may offer advice or at least give other sufferers of this condition a chance to share experiences that may, aleviated the problem.

Her nightmares,from what she has told me are almost always an attack (both physically and mentally ) on her person.Or they are full of fear and danger.

She needs to rest beacause of her M.E. (Myalgic Encaphomyleitis.....dunno about spelling) and then in her rest is subjected to these awful dreams.

Its like her soul is being 'played' with (my thoughts not hers).

Thank you in advance for any help....Bootneckband

Does she have the same ones over and over? The best thing for her to do is to become lucid and change the dream or learn to lose the fear of them at the least. She needs to decide and use her will to make these things happen. fter she wakes from she need to right back into the dream and refuse to cooperate with the people in the dream.

Violence in dreams usually indicates change. There may be changes that she need to make within herself. Does she write them down at all and read them later? If not it's worth doing. In my experience usually nightmares happen when we refuse to listen to our inner thoughts.

[bootneckband]

Does she have the same ones over and over? The best thing for her to do is to become lucid and change the dream or learn to lose the fear of them at the least. She needs to decide and use her will to make these things happen. fter she wakes from she need to right back into the dream and refuse to cooperate with the people in the dream.

Violence in dreams usually indicates change. There may be changes that she need to make within herself. Does she write them down at all and read them later? If not it's worth doing. In my experience usually nightmares happen when we refuse to listen to our inner thoughts.

They are always violent to different extremes and never the same.But unbelievably vivid.
She has kept a diary,well just started really.I think, like you,that her mind pattern affects her,but at the moment she hasnt come to the point where she will delve into inner meanings (i think she is affraid of what may lurk there).
I have asked if she can alter the dream,she says not,and a couple of times the dream has got worse if she does try......:confused:
If she wakes,then sleeps she is right back in the thick of it..

[ufochick]

They are always violent to different extremes and never the same.But unbelievably vivid.
She has kept a diary,well just started really.I think, like you,that her mind pattern affects her,but at the moment she hasnt come to the point where she will delve into inner meanings (i think she is affraid of what may lurk there).
I have asked if she can alter the dream,she says not,and a couple of times the dream has got worse if she does try......:confused:
If she wakes,then sleeps she is right back in the thick of it..

She NEEDS to dive right back into it and stop it. I had a nightmare for years that was not horrible but woke me. I was standing at the top of a huge cliff and was pushed off, sometimes I was chased off sometimes I fell but I always went off the cliff. I would wake before hitting the ground then wake up.Then one night I remembered IN the dream that I had had this dream many times. I walked up to the cliff and said "OK "God" if you want me to die at the bottom so be it, I'm in your hands" and I jumped. Completely peaceful, a giant hand caught me halfway down and gently set me down. I never had the dream again.
Now I approach nightmares differently, what is there to learn from it? What is it she is afraid she will find if she delves into herself? ask her. I would think stopping the nightmares would be worth some work.

[blue2]

I don't have the nightmares since Armourthyroid and glad i had the information for you for her because it is the correct way to go i can assure you...:):)

[bootneckband]

Yep,we are going to pursue this.It seems to have stirred something,and it would explain other symptoms, with her so thanks again....we will let you know

And I'm happy for you that you overcame your nightmares...:)

[blue2]

Ha ha thanks:)

But do please get her the 24hour Adrenal Saliva test too because Adrenals should be treated first for thyroid to stand a chance, and if she has DHEA low i'd recommend Douglas Sub Lingual from www.myvitanet.com although precursor to this is Pregnelone which can be bought as cream, but i had no issues with Douglas although Somatomed is good but takes time and an all round holistic treatment taken at bedtime nightime in bed on empty stomach so i'd say six hours after food to be sure low blood glucose,five days on two days off,so weekends off,then begin again do for three months then 2-4 weeks off and begin again and it is 9 months treatment and likely may need to be maintained,i think even without the adrenals test will be safe to say she needs it but would be of interest to see proof of what is going on inside too.

I also had a strange metallic taste at the back of my tongue which is also another symptom of hypothyroidism. I had 16yrs of suffering at the hands of NHS and incorrect diagnosis,it ruins lives, and i saw many many Consultants of all types and GP's all follow on like sheep with not changing diagnosis-yes cos then you could sue someone.

I do not advise cheaper products as they do not work..if she also has monthly irregularites like heavy bleeds then it is hormonal and mood swings like PMT. Even the diagnosis of Post Natal Depression is due to thyroid function plummeting but they are given anti depressants which is totally wrong treatment.

[cosmographer]

For a period in my life, I was very anxious and mentally ill. I had nightmares for 3 years constantly, and in my wake hours I was depressed. Nightmares now occur rarely at a very normal rate, but now I have developed a habit to gain part of my consciousness when they occur. I am able to gain self-conscious in while inside the dream and handle the situation appropriate either by waking up immediately or stay in the nightmare a bit more to explore what is happening.

So the trick is to "How to wake up intensionally?". The most easy technique is to do some relaxation exercices and learn about the ideal meditation state where your body is numbed/paralysed and your mind is awake and consious (become lucid-dreamer as stated previously), in this state you will train your bodymind to understand the difference of physical state and dream state.

A couple of days ago I had a nightmare I did not wanted to see, subconsciously I asked my dreamself a logical question and I could not get an answer, then I knew that I was in a dream and woke up. I don't remember the question, I think I asked about the name of the day yesterday, that process of fetching memory data by intention made me realize that I was in a dream and then I had the switch in my finger, whether to stay asleep or to wake up.

But in an other older time, I gained my concious while at a nightmare again. And decided to stay, I knew that it was my dream and I gain more courage and fighting better with the monsters. By the time I woke up I felt very powerful and recharged.