Tesla's Missing Papers. About 6 of them

[greenleaf]

December 03, 2007

Tesla's Missing Papers (http://www.groonk.net/blog/mt-archives/cat_science.php). About 6 of them.
One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called "death beam." So it was natural that the FBI and other U.S. Government agencies would be interested in any scientific ideas involving weaponry. Some were concerned that Tesla's papers might fall into the hands of the Axis powers or the Soviets.
The morning after the inventor's death, his nephew Sava Kosanovic´ hurried to his uncle's room at the Hotel New Yorker. He was an up-and-coming Yugoslav official with suspected connections to the communist party in his country. By the time he arrived, Tesla's body had already been removed, and Kosanovic´ suspected that someone had already gone through his uncle's effects. Technical papers were missing as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept—a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked "Government."


also see: — The Missing Papers — (http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_mispapers.html)


One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called "death beam." So it was natural that the FBI and other U.S. Government agencies would be interested in any scientific ideas involving weaponry. Some were concerned that Tesla's papers might fall into the hands of the Axis powers or the Soviets.

The morning after the inventor's death, his nephew Sava Kosanovic´ hurried to his uncle's room at the Hotel New Yorker. He was an up-and-coming Yugoslav official with suspected connections to the communist party in his country. By the time he arrived, Tesla's body had already been removed, and Kosanovic´ suspected that someone had already gone through his uncle's effects. Technical papers were missing as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept—a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked "Government."

P. E. Foxworth, assistant director of the New York FBI office, was called in to investigate. According to Foxworth, the government was "vitally interested" in preserving Tesla's papers. Two days after Tesla's death, representatives of the Office of Alien Property went to his room at the New Yorker Hotel and seized all his possessions.

Dr. John G. Trump, an electrical engineer with the National Defense Research Committee of the Office of Scientific Research and Development, was called in to analyze the Tesla papers in OAP custody. Following a three-day investigation, Dr. Trump concluded:

His [Tesla's] thoughts and efforts during at least the past 15 years were primarily of a speculative, philosophical, and somewhat promotional character often concerned with the production and wireless transmission of power; but did not include new, sound, workable principles or methods for realizing such results.
Just after World War II, there was a renewed interest in beam weapons. Copies of Tesla's papers on particle beam weaponry were sent to Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. An operation code-named "Project Nick" was heavily funded and placed under the command of Brigadier General L. C. Craigie to test the feasibility of Tesla's concept. Details of the experiments were never published, and the project was apparently discontinued. But something peculiar happened. The copies of Tesla's papers disappeared and nobody knows what happened to them.

In 1952, Tesla's remaining papers and possessions were released to Sava Kosanovic´ and returned to Belgrade, Yugoslavia where a museum was created in the inventor's honor. For many years, under Tito's communist regime, it was extremely difficult for Western journalists and scholars to gain access to the Tesla archive in Yugoslavia; even then they were allowed to see only selected papers. This was not the case for Soviet scientists who came in delegations during the 1950s. Concerns increased in 1960 when Soviet Premier Khrushchev announced to the Supreme Soviet that "a new and fantastic weapon was in the hatching stage."

Work on beam weapons also continued in the United States. In 1958 the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) initiated a top-secret project code-named "Seesaw" at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory to develop a charged-particle beam weapon. More than ten years and twenty-seven million dollars later, the project was abandoned "because of the projected high costs associated with implementation as well as the formidable technical problems associated with propagating a beam through very long ranges in the atmosphere." Scientists associated with the project had no knowledge of Tesla's papers.

In the late 1970s, there was fear that the Soviets may have achieved a technological breakthrough. Some U.S. defense analysts concluded that a large beam weapon facility was under construction near the Sino-Soviet border in Southern Russia.

The American response to this "technological surprise" was the Strategic Defense Initiative announced by President Ronald Reagan in 1983. Teams of government scientists were urged to "turn their great talents now to the cause of mankind and world peace, to give us the means of rendering these nuclear weapons impotent and obsolete."

Today, after a half-century of research and billions of dollars of investment, the SDI program is generally considered a failure, and there is still no realistic means of defense against a nuclear missile attack.

For many years scientists and researchers have sought for Tesla's missing papers with no apparent success. It is conceivable that if Nikola Tesla knew a means for accurately projecting lethal beams of energy through the atmosphere, he may have taken it to the grave with him.

[armoured_amazon]

I am absolutely fascinated by this guy.

[umbrex]

I am absolutely fascinated by this guy.

yup.. einstein go home, tesla was truly the man of the millennium. like he said to the likes of edison etc: the present may be yours, but the future is mine.

had his technologies been released we would be well into the golden age of man.

most wicked part is the fact that he had acces to the vatican library as a young person.

[de_shit]

Tesla rules man. His death beam is real, and is being used in space. I saw some movies on it before in the UFO part of this forum I think, but I don't know what the topic was called.

[armoured_amazon]

yup.. einstein go home, tesla was truly the man of the millennium. like he said to the likes of edison etc: the present may be yours, but the future is mine.

had his technologies been released we would be well into the golden age of man.

most wicked part is the fact that he had acces to the vatican library as a young person.

Definitely. Powers that be would never have that, would they!!! :mad:

[ichi wa zen]

Nikola Tesla "The Electric Magician"

A true genius! Einstein should suck Tesla Toe!

A genius denied by the Powers That Be!

Someday the people will acknowledge the genius that was Nikola Tesla!!!!!

[morphix]

Someday the people will acknowledge the genius that was Nikola Tesla!!!!!

We should but they wont allow it...

**A paragraph from a book called the 48 laws of power written by Robert Greene**

"A year later, Westinghouse was caught in a takeover bid from J.Pierpont Morgan, who made him rescind the generous royalty contract he had signed with Tesla. Westinghouse explained to the scientist that his company would not survive if it had to pay him his full royalties; he persuaded Tesla to accept a buyout of his patents for $216,000 - a large sum, no doubt, but far less than the $12 million they were worth at the time. The financiers had divested Tesla of his richs, the patents, and essentially the credit for the greatest invention of his career."

Westing house was the name of the company Tesla worked for after his time working for Edison - Edison still believed in the DC system and continued to sabotage Teslas work.

We all know who J P Morgan is :)

Quote Thomas Edison 1847 - 1931

"Everybody steals in commerce and industry. I've stolen a lot myself. But I know how to steal"

[geronimo]

[QUOTE=greenleaf;209933]December 03, 2007

[B][COLOR="Green"]Tesla's Missing Papers (http://www.groonk.net/blog/mt-archives/cat_science.php). About 6 of them.
One of the more controversial topics involving Nikola Tesla is what became of many of his technical and scientific papers after he died in 1943. Just before his death at the height of World War II, he claimed that he had perfected his so-called "death beam." (quote)

It seems that the fire which burned down Tesla's New York laboratory may have been deliberately started. His work association with the Rockefellers has now been established, and it would appear from the same source that his death was not natural.

geronimo

[marmadukehussy]

he also wanted to give the people free electricity but he was being funded by J.P Morgan who didn't like the idea of the word free so he pulled his financial backing. tesla was a genius.

[geronimo]

he also wanted to give the people free electricity but he was being funded by J.P Morgan who didn't like the idea of the word free so he pulled his financial backing. tesla was a genius.

According to Tesla's nephew, he was given a ride by his uncle in a converted Pierce Arrow car with an electric engine powered by a box fitted with special vacuum tubes. The car drove silently for 100 miles or so much to his amazement. Tesla told him that he did not know the source of the energy - (which has been described as the Ether, quantum flux, or zero point)- but mankind should be grateful for the source, which in this case could also have been used to power a house.

geronimo

[true]

For sure Tesla was one of the smartest men ever to walk the earth. Of course after 12 years of school, and 4 of university I never heard the name!

Later in his life he started to get into all the spiritual stuff. Everyone thought he had just gone crazy. Of course, the guy who lit lamps hundreds of miles away and discovered free energy for everyone has suddenly gone nuts even though he is older and wiser! He wanted to find out what all this energy stuff he had done amazing things with really was.

"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all previous centuries of its existence."

I really wonder what knowledge he did have to make such a claim. "the myth of science"

I'm looking forward to figuring out what we can. First, I've got to find out how to make my pineal gland larger and healthier. It is probably not very well off right now.

[armoured_amazon]

For sure Tesla was one of the smartest men ever to walk the earth. Of course after 12 years of school, and 4 of university I never heard the name!

Makes ya laugh, doesn't it? :mad: I forget where I heard the name first but it certainly wasn't in physics at school.

[2013]

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/1909-baker-electric/3222162502
early electric car , the technology hasnt really imporved at al since then , imagine what people would be driving now if this or teslas car had gone into full production .:D

[frank1974]

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/1909-baker-electric/3222162502
early electric car , the technology hasnt really imporved at al since then , imagine what people would be driving now if this or teslas car had gone into full production .:D

What about this?
http://www.teslamotors.com/

And hydrogen cars are on the way. If only they'd use Stan Meyer's technology for instant hydrogen gas production from any type of water, that is recycled back into the water tank. The equivalent energy is roughly 2 million barrels of oil to 1 gallon of water!

[craven dark]

What about this?
http://www.teslamotors.com/

And hydrogen cars are on the way. If only they'd use Stan Meyer's technology for instant hydrogen gas production from any type of water, that is recycled back into the water tank. The equivalent energy is roughly 2 million barrels of oil to 1 gallon of water!

This is interesting tell me more:)

[symbiosis]

Hi All,

While I broadly agree Tesla was an absolute genius. I would question some of his more outlandish and incredible claims later on in his life.

It has to be realised, Tesla was outwitted by the likes of Edison in the business and patenting stakes. Even though Tesla himself made money from his inventions and expertise. He plowed nearly all his money/ energy and time back into his research. Basically by the time he died he was penniless/ broke! It has been suggested, that Tesla exaggerated some of his experimental results and subsequent conclusions. To try and stir interest in his inventions and ideas, so he could sell them to the highest bidder!

I think the series Mythbusters carried out an experiment that was based on Teslas research/ design and results. The idea being a small reciprocating device that induces a small amount energy at a specific or resonant frequency. That has the capability of destroying a large structure, however requires little energy to achieve the aforementioned! You are probably all familiar with the concept of resonance and how it works?:confused:
The Mythbusters crew, tried to follow the plans to the letter, but they used a bridge to try the experiment on. They ended up using and electrically driven device instead of Teslas mechanical device. They found such a small machine could not have such an effect. Due to the energy required to achieve destruction or vigorous shaking of the bridge or related structure. However they did find certain ' Sweet Spots ', on the bridge. Where indeed the vibrations from the device were slightly amplified.

The results deviated sharply from what Tesla claimed to achieve with his own device. This would suggest Tesla may have indeed been desperate to regain his prestige, if not his selling power.

However, Tesla was a genius and a scientific revolutionary with a mind of rare brilliance. I think ' The Hutchinson Effect,' may be loosely based on some of Teslas work. I do not really know, I am only really speculating.:confused:

Best,

Sym.;)

[2013]

What about this?
http://www.teslamotors.com/

And hydrogen cars are on the way. If only they'd use Stan Meyer's technology for instant hydrogen gas production from any type of water, that is recycled back into the water tank. The equivalent energy is roughly 2 million barrels of oil to 1 gallon of water!

The telsa car i just read seems ot have come across a stumbling block in the testing of the efficiency of some of the parts the safety aspect hasn't been tested yet either although they say that will be fine .
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/15/possible_snags_at_tesla_electric_car_co/
Maybe e some of Tesla's claims where attempts in later life to reignite interest or maybe he is one of the rare few people who seek to make a profit but to better the lives of his fellow men .The programme could of been apiece of propaganda designed to make his work look unfeasible there not called TV programmes for nothing you know .

[symbiosis]

2013 asserted:The programme could of been apiece of propaganda designed to make his work look unfeasible there not called TV programmes for nothing you know .


Then again it could just be a TV program that does what it says on the tin! Without any hidden agenda's or conspiracies! I am not that nieve to think that TV shows are not edited or cast in a certain light. With regards to that show, they go through the experiments in a logical and easy to follow manner.
Viewers with a bit of spare time could reproduce the experiments themselves.


As to Tesla, he was a human being not some mythical being without human fears, preducjices and wants/ needs. Hyping up some of his ideas and experimental results would not be anything unusual. I recommend that you check out some of the official history relating to Tesla, his life and exploits.
Before you just go off on a wild goose chase, trying to discover lost or suppressed information, which may not even exsist.:D

Let’s face it; if any exoctic science and designs were floating about they would have been utilized by big business by now! It would be counterproductive to suppress such information! Governments covering up hey?
Looking at how stupid humans and their hierarchies are, I would doubt any government would have the nouse to achieve such a thing.

Best,

Sym.

[geronimo]

Hi All,

While I broadly agree Tesla was an absolute genius. I would question some of his more outlandish and incredible claims later on in his life.

It has to be realised, Tesla was outwitted by the likes of Edison in the business and patenting stakes. Even though Tesla himself made money from his inventions and expertise. He plowed nearly all his money/ energy and time back into his research. Basically by the time he died he was penniless/ broke! It has been suggested, that Tesla exaggerated some of his experimental results and subsequent conclusions. To try and stir interest in his inventions and ideas, so he could sell them to the highest bidder!

I think the series Mythbusters carried out an experiment that was based on Teslas research/ design and results. The idea being a small reciprocating device that induces a small amount energy at a specific or resonant frequency. That has the capability of destroying a large structure, however requires little energy to achieve the aforementioned! You are probably all familiar with the concept of resonance and how it works?:confused:
The Mythbusters crew, tried to follow the plans to the letter, but they used a bridge to try the experiment on. They ended up using and electrically driven device instead of Teslas mechanical device. They found such a small machine could not have such an effect. Due to the energy required to achieve destruction or vigorous shaking of the bridge or related structure. However they did find certain ' Sweet Spots ', on the bridge. Where indeed the vibrations from the device were slightly amplified.

The results deviated sharply from what Tesla claimed to achieve with his own device. This would suggest Tesla may have indeed been desperate to regain his prestige, if not his selling power.

However, Tesla was a genius and a scientific revolutionary with a mind of rare brilliance. I think ' The Hutchinson Effect,' may be loosely based on some of Teslas work. I do not really know, I am only really speculating.:confused:

Best,

Sym.;)

Now, if the Mythbusters crew used a device which did not resemble the device and conditions reproduced by Tesla, then how would they expect to achieve similar results, in order to reach the conclusion that this can't be done? the answer is, of course, that they didn't have a clue, and the program is most almost certainly based on flawed information, if not outright propaganda - just as those who attempted to reproduce Tesla's transformer on false premises met with similar disappointment.
One curious detail 'Mythbusters' didn't mention is that Tesla met a man in New York, George H. Scherst, who became his accountant, and was in fact a spy for the Rockefellers (who funded both sides during the war and initiated the Eugenics program in 1930's Germany before the war began) According to researcher Don Nicoloff it appears this dubious German associate of Tesla's, who was stealing Tesla's secrets, and, I suspect, sabotaging his efforts, changed his name to Prescott Bush, grandfather of the current American president, who, in common with Harriman brothers and the Union banking coorporation, was Hitler's biggest funder. Prescott also dug up and stole the skull of Apache chief geronimo and placed it in what is known as the 'Tomb' of Skull and Bones secret society, Yale, along with Hitler's silver cutlery and various other unsavoury little artifacts to used in their rituals.
If you follow the statements of Benjamin Fulford it's apparent that there is a family connection not only with the Rockefellers, but also with Tesla, who fortunately escaped the destruction of his New York laboratory by arson, before his ultimate death, probably murder, at age 83. Add to this Nicoloff's assertion that Tesla's father had access to Vatican secret archives, and I'm willing to bet that there is a real bombshell of suppressed information behind all this, free energy and all the rest of it, that somebody doesn't want you to know.

geronimo

[kernelpower]

tesla>einstein

[asentinel]

yup.. einstein go home, tesla was truly the man of the millennium. like he said to the likes of edison etc: the present may be yours, but the future is mine.

had his technologies been released we would be well into the golden age of man.

most wicked part is the fact that he had acces to the vatican library as a young person.

Who was promoting him? Educating him?

[symbiosis]

Now, if the Mythbusters crew used a device which did not resemble the device and conditions reproduced by Tesla, then how would they expect to achieve similar results, in order to reach the conclusion that this can't be done?

They did try to reproduce Tesla's mechanical reciprocating device, unfortunately it did not work. They used Tesla's original plans, however to achieve the necessary frequency's and reliability needed for the experiment. An electrically driven reciprocating device was the best device to use at the time. They were trying to test Tesla's general theory, ok not using exactly the same equipment. However the general principles still apply whether you use an electrically or mechanically driven device! At certain points (sweet spots) resonance was achieved. Unfortunately the device could not introduce enough energy into the system to destroy the bridge at best, or even make the bridge sway and buckle at worst.

Which indicates Tesla's claims of producing catastrophic effects by putting a small amount of energy into the system. Which then becomes resonant with the structures natural frequency. In light of the evidence and known physical laws, the claims look pretty far fetched! ;)

the answer is, of course, that they didn't have a clue, and the program is most almost certainly based on flawed information, if not outright propaganda

Really? Do you have any proof of your assertions? Especially the last part of your quote. If not, then it is just your opinion!

One curious detail 'Mythbusters' didn't mention is that Tesla met a man in New York, George H. Scherst, who became his accountant, and was in fact a spy for the Rockefellers (who funded both sides during the war and initiated the Eugenics program in 1930's Germany before the war began) According to researcher Don Nicoloff it appears this dubious German associate of Tesla's, who was stealing Tesla's secrets, and, I suspect, sabotaging his efforts, changed his name to Prescott Bush, grandfather of the current American president, who, in common with Harriman brothers and the Union banking coorporation, was Hitler's biggest funder. Prescott also dug up and stole the skull of Apache chief geronimo and placed it in what is known as the 'Tomb' of Skull and Bones secret society, Yale, along with Hitler's silver cutlery and various other unsavoury little artifacts to used in their rituals.


Very interesting, however it again seems a bit far fetched!

There are a plethora of conspiracy theories involving Tesla, and some of his stranger claims and inventions. There may indeed be some kernels of truth with some of the claims. However one has to be aware, that in the absence of direct data and verifiable evidence. Facts can become distorted or people will just fill in the details themselves.

Best Sym.:cool:

[h2pogo]

tesla was a genious unlike the so called scientists on myth busters.i saw a program they did on electrolosis[making hydrogen/oxygen gas out of water]
and i can do better with little finance and resource.i havnt seen many myth buster programs but a freind who has said even they find it hard to put down tessla.

[symbiosis]

tesla was a genious unlike the so called scientists on myth busters.

Yeah and so what? That is not what the debate is about!:confused:
Whether Tesla is a genius compared to the Mythbusters crew is a bit of a red herring! The issue is in the testing of Tesla's so called device(s), the design and validity. The appuratus was built to Tesla's specifications, it did not work. Even when the team tried to get around the problem using a slightly different method, gasp, shock......horror. The device still did not work!!!

Unless you can suggest a direct and testable way, for anyone to test Tesla's claims regarding reciprocating machines in resonance. That actually work, or even hint to some form of connection, then one can only surmise it is all anecdotal nonsense!;)

Best Sym!:cool:

[carlo]

I really did think that was an insect on the screen!

Nikola Tesla "The Electric Magician"

A true genius! Einstein should suck Tesla Toe!

A genius denied by the Powers That Be!

Someday the people will acknowledge the genius that was Nikola Tesla!!!!!