Is Blair a Freemason???

[warrior]

Is there any actual strong evidence that Tony Blair is in fact a Freemason, or a 33rd degree Freemason as has been suggested. His name isn't listed in any of the Freemason lodges as far as I know. I saw it suggested previously that Blair was a 33rd degree freemason in the same Lodge that Winston Churchill was joined. However his name isn't listed there, and I couldn't find any strong evidence that he was in fact a freemason of any lodge, let alone a 33rd degree freemason. So can anyone add any light to this, is there any evidence that he is in fact a freemason.
Many people just assume the PM of UK has to be a freemason, but is there proof of it?

[masonic3]

Is there any actual strong evidence that Tony Blair is in fact a Freemason, or a 33rd degree Freemason as has been suggested. His name isn't listed in any of the Freemason lodges as far as I know. I saw it suggested previously that Blair was a 33rd degree freemason in the same Lodge that Winston Churchill was joined. However his name isn't listed there, and I couldn't find any strong evidence that he was in fact a freemason of any lodge, let alone a 33rd degree freemason. So can anyone add any light to this, is there any evidence that he is in fact a freemason.
Many people just assume the PM of UK has to be a freemason, but is there proof of it?

Alright mate.....

A law was passed so that A "Priminster" or head of sate of England can not be a freemason, Winston Churchill was the last one to be a freemason but had to give it up when he got in power.

From my point of veiw i would say no as he is not on any of my friends lists in London., but he may be apart of the 33d? but its along way to the USA every time he wants to visit some lodges as he will not be able to entrer any in England.
I know this as he will not have a "Masonic passport" under the UGLE.

Thankyou for bringing this up because there is so much stuff made up on here.:p ;)

[jimijams]

Here are a couple of photos I just downloaded from google with very suspect handshakes. Masonic3 will know if these handshakes are the "grip and token".

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8752/blair1xq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4954/blair2sz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[jimijams]

Alright mate.....

A law was passed so that A "Priminster" or head of sate of England can not be a freemason, Winston Churchill was the last one to be a freemason but had to give it up when he got in power.

From my point of veiw i would say no as he is not on any of my friends lists in London., but he may be apart of the 33d? but its along way to the USA every time he wants to visit some lodges as he will not be able to entrer any in England.
I know this as he will not have a "Masonic passport" under the UGLE.

Thankyou for bringing this up because there is so much stuff made up on here.:p ;)
There is no law that I can find stating a PM cannot be a freemason, the closest I could find was Member of Parliament Chris Mullin's Secret Societies Declaration Bill of 1993 which never got through. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199293/cmhansrd/1992-07-01/Debate-1.html

With regard to Winston Chirchill from what I can see he resigned from freemasonry after a falling out with his lodge in 1918(likely story) and it didn't have anything to do with him becoming prime minister. http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/beresiner7.html

[chocky pud]

More 'funny' Blair handshakes.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9251/598647blairhandshake150ub2.jpg
Kharrazi meets Blair: A controversial handshake
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/598647.stm

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4074/shakehl6.jpg
A dodgy Blair-Bush shake?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0629/p01s05-usgn.html

Here is a link to a 5 minute google video regarding Blair's links to Freemasonry.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5149682451814773800

[edelweiss pirate]

He's Illuminati.


Thankyou for bringing this up because there is so much stuff made up on here.
M3... showing your disinfo agent colours are you at last? and the real purpose of your presence here? I so wanted to be friends, but no, seems you've a job to do... oh well...

I met a mason of 25 years in the craft and he said he didn't have a clue how it works and you, what 30 years old, a new mason and you claim to know it all?

[warrior]

Just because he said Blair isn't a freemason doesn't mean he is a disinfo agent, is there too much paranoia on this site.
And to be honest, on close inspection of those handshakes I don't see anything unusual about them, if you photo yourself taking a normal handshake it will look the same.
I had imagined Blair was a Freemason, he was/is in the legal profession and they have their fair share of them, and it was said that he was in the same lodge as Churchill. I did look into it further and even got a list of names some time ago of members of Churchills former lodge, Blairs name wasn't on that list or any other list i could find, I did speak to freemasons who were quite passionate about it, being quite adamant that Blair wasn't a freemason and certainly not a 33rd degree Freemason, and their evidence was quite convincing. Now I don't trust those Freemasons entirely and would even be a little surprised if Blair wasn't a freemason, but so far I haven't seen any evidence at all that he is in fact a freemason, I have only seen people claiming he is a freemason, but without any evidence to support it at all. If Blair is a freemason, is there evidence, what lodge is he joined. And there should be more photo's of masonic handshakes of him, so far any of those photos on this thread don't convince me at all.

[edelweiss pirate]

Where's the paranoia on this site?

Warrior, those photos don't convince you because you don't know what a masonic handshake looks like or feels like. I do on both counts.

If you care to review M3's post he said:

Thankyou for bringing this up because there is so much stuff made up on here.

Which is clearly an attack because I know a mason DOES NOT know much about their craft, particularly a young 'un like him.

Which leaves the way open for the suggestion that he IS actually a disinfo agent.

If you'd been where I've been warrior you'd find that so called 'paranoia' is actually a very useful warning system. It's saved me many times. I hope it saves you.

Look. I'm being nice. Love me! I love you!

[warrior]

it still doesn't answer my question. Do you have further knowledge or evidence of Blair being a Freemason?
And I don't like people being accused of being disinfo too quickly. He might be disinfo, but we don't know for sure, so it is unfair to label him one just yet. And remember if he is in fact correct and Blair isn't a Freemason then it is you and not him who was "disinformed".
Anyway I don't see any reason for posters on this site to make personal remarks or throw accusations at each other, the mainstream tabloid newsmedia already do a good job of that, we can rise above such needless behaviour.
It is something I really do want to confirm, if Blair is in fact a Freemason.

[montag]

Thats the problem with secret societies, they're secret. Getting concrete evidence of membership is near impossible, unless you could force him legally to declare it I don't see how it would be possible to know besides observation.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, the chances are it's a mason.

[chocky pud]

Just because he said Blair isn't a freemason doesn't mean he is a disinfo agent, is there too much paranoia on this site.
And to be honest, on close inspection of those handshakes I don't see anything unusual about them, if you photo yourself taking a normal handshake it will look the same.
I had imagined Blair was a Freemason, he was/is in the legal profession and they have their fair share of them, and it was said that he was in the same lodge as Churchill. I did look into it further and even got a list of names some time ago of members of Churchills former lodge, Blairs name wasn't on that list or any other list i could find, I did speak to freemasons who were quite passionate about it, being quite adamant that Blair wasn't a freemason and certainly not a 33rd degree Freemason, and their evidence was quite convincing. Now I don't trust those Freemasons entirely and would even be a little surprised if Blair wasn't a freemason, but so far I haven't seen any evidence at all that he is in fact a freemason, I have only seen people claiming he is a freemason, but without any evidence to support it at all. If Blair is a freemason, is there evidence, what lodge is he joined. And there should be more photo's of masonic handshakes of him, so far any of those photos on this thread don't convince me at all.


Hi Warrior,

I don't know if you checled the video link in my last post, but there was some info there about Blair's ties with Freemasonry.

Also, I'm not so sure Masonic3 is as young as people may think. Here is the photo he has posted on his public profile. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?u=3159

Is this him? If so he's certainly not the young lad he once was is he?

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9929/screenhunter410my0.jpg

[edelweiss pirate]

He could just be a 'mature' looking thirty year old...

Thing is that photo's in black and white... and it looks very Kim Philby, Anthony Blunt, 1960's spy scandal to me, so he must in reality be even older than he appears in the photo....

He definitely looks like he works for the government though or maybe he IS the government....

You gotta larf....

[masonic3]

Here are a couple of photos I just downloaded from google with very suspect handshakes. Masonic3 will know if these handshakes are the "grip and token".
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8752/blair1xq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4954/blair2sz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

No/maybe ?? but its hard to tell from here.........It looks to me that thumb is to low.:o

[masonic3]

Hi Warrior,

I don't know if you checled the video link in my last post, but there was some info there about Blair's ties with Freemasonry.

Also, I'm not so sure Masonic3 is as young as people may think. Here is the photo he has posted on his public profile. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?u=3159

Is this him? If so he's certainly not the young lad he once was is he?

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9929/screenhunter410my0.jpg

Thankyou for your comments, but I am 29 and you can find me on my girlfriends web site:
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/6852/2806/1600/763191/IMG_0008.jpg
The picture on my profile is of the "Duke of Kent" who is the Head "Freemason"

I think that "edelweiss pirate" is telling some porkies "don't convince you because you don't know what a masonic handshake looks like or feels like. I do on both counts."

So you know the Grip and Token? I don't think so lol!

Also thanks "warrior" you seem switched on and not a fool like some people I would RE frame to name.

[eternal_spirit]

That man in M3's pic looks a right F****R Wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him! Seen that pic before somewhere isn't he some high ranking mason:confused:

[masonic3]

That man in M3's pic looks a right F****R Wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him! Seen that pic before somewhere isn't he some high ranking mason:confused:

The picture on my profile is of the "Duke of Kent" who is the Head "Freemason" (Fellow Craft).
Going to meet him in 2010 on our bicentenial.;)

[montag]

The picture on my profile is of the "Duke of Kent" who is the Head "Freemason" (Fellow Craft).
Going to meet him in 2010 on our bicentenial.;)
Will you get to shake his hand?;)

[masonic3]

Will you get to shake his hand?;)

Yes of course I will make the point of speaking to him, most "Brothers" will be scard to talk to him.
But not me, my first words will be:

"Hello nice to meet you, whats all this about you being a reptile then?"

[montag]

"Hello nice to meet you, whats all this about you being a reptile then?"
Thats very funny M3, I bet that'll provoke either a laugh or some kind of hissing sound from him.:rolleyes:

[masonic3]

Thats very funny M3, I bet that'll provoke either a laugh or some kind of hissing sound from him.:rolleyes:

I promise I will and will let you know what happens, also I will post my photos that will take of me and him(long way off yet)
;)

He will know about whats on the net about him, so I think he should laugh, in freemasonry he is the same as me "Brotherhood" but he is the most high ranking, so everyone will be scared of him.:D

[klinker]

Worth a look. Certainly adds weight to the original question.

First vid

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5149682451814773800

Second vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGyg2mBsVEM

Both are from Chris Everards Illuminati DVDs, Vol 1 or 2 I can't remember.

[masonic3]

Worth a look. Certainly adds weight to the original question.

First vid

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5149682451814773800

Second vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGyg2mBsVEM

Both are from Chris Everards Illuminati DVDs, Vol 1 or 2 I can't remember.

I know hes not in UGLE freemasonry unless hes in some order in the USA. sorry to to say:o

[warrior]

[QUOTE=jeffangel;14565]Worth a look. Certainly adds weight to the original question.

First vid

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5149682451814773800
QUOTE]


Thanks for all the replies.I have seen that clip, however the presenter does NOT say that Blair is a freemason. He says that somebody alledges he is a freemason, and he might be a freemason because many barristers are Freemasons. He mentions the Studholme lodge, I was shown a list of the members of that lodge and Blairs name wasn't on it. The presenter of the clip can't say for sure Blair is a freemason, he is only saying that he might be a mason, which isn't good enough at all. Anybody could claim that we all "might" be freemasons. I could make a documentary saying Icke might be a freemason, but it wouldn't make it true. For such an acusation I think there should be some evidence. We know that GW Bush is in Skull & Bones, if Blair really is in Freemasonry then there should be some way of knowing.

If anyone has any further evidence I would be grateful.

[joyful]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7161/2006060320benedict20xviyr8.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/RE-SIZED/popesignbig.jpg

[ilponn]

well he is a freemason he is in a london lodge he is a high ranking one at that the same lodage as gordon brown and margret thatcher.

[celtic isis]

I promise I will and will let you know what happens, also I will post my photos that will take of me and him(long way off yet)
;)

He will know about whats on the net about him, so I think he should laugh, in freemasonry he is the same as me "Brotherhood" but he is the most high ranking, so everyone will be scared of him.:D

hehe glad to see you're back masonic3 :D you're too funny!

[celtic isis]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7161/2006060320benedict20xviyr8.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/RE-SIZED/popesignbig.jpg

joyful, is he really doing the corna hand or has that been photoshoppied lol :eek:

omg just look at that first pic, the eyes of mr pope fook me! keep away itz EVVVVIIIILLLL!

[celtic isis]

[QUOTE=jeffangel;14565]Worth a look. Certainly adds weight to the original question.

First vid

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5149682451814773800
QUOTE]


Thanks for all the replies.I have seen that clip, however the presenter does NOT say that Blair is a freemason. He says that somebody alledges he is a freemason, and he might be a freemason because many barristers are Freemasons. He mentions the Studholme lodge, I was shown a list of the members of that lodge and Blairs name wasn't on it. The presenter of the clip can't say for sure Blair is a freemason, he is only saying that he might be a mason, which isn't good enough at all. Anybody could claim that we all "might" be freemasons. I could make a documentary saying Icke might be a freemason, but it wouldn't make it true. For such an acusation I think there should be some evidence. We know that GW Bush is in Skull & Bones, if Blair really is in Freemasonry then there should be some way of knowing.

If anyone has any further evidence I would be grateful.

hey warrior :) liking your style on here ;)

i'll ask my OH if he knows how we can find out about Blair.

and just to say (not to you warrior) itz not true of all masons that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck itz a mason - show some respect please folks. :rolleyes:

It just shows ignorance to say that.

these people have access to knowledge, you should be scared ;)

[revelations]

I think you got that arse backwards mate, it is probably more the case that you can not be primeminister unless you are a high degree Freemason! As for that tit Blair... hes a 33rd degree!Alright mate.....

A law was passed so that A "Priminster" or head of sate of England can not be a freemason, Winston Churchill was the last one to be a freemason but had to give it up when he got in power.

From my point of veiw i would say no as he is not on any of my friends lists in London., but he may be apart of the 33d? but its along way to the USA every time he wants to visit some lodges as he will not be able to entrer any in England.
I know this as he will not have a "Masonic passport" under the UGLE.

Thankyou for bringing this up because there is so much stuff made up on here.:p ;)

[clint web]

masonic3,

Can I join the masons then?

How do I do it?

[guuna]

yes he is.:D

[meksar]

According to Chris Everard Blair attends the Studholme Lodge which is the same lodge which Aleister Crowley attended, he also has regular meeting's at the Cafe De Paris in London amongst fellow Freemason's. Is it really that hard to believe that to become Prime Minister requires you to be a high ranking Freemason and part of the inbred bloodline?. He has covered up pedophile rings for the elite and i would be 100% sure he is part of that filth also, he supported and pushed the War Of Terror, i think it is no brainer he sold his soul to Satan a long time ago.

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason 1/3 - YouTube

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason 2/3 - YouTube

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason 3/3 ( final ) - YouTube

Tony Blair Caught Protecting Elite Paedophile Ring

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8258

Tony Blair, Jesuits & Satanic EU

http://srsen.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/tony-blair-jesuits-satanic-eu/

[stewart edwards]

According to Chris Everard Blair attends the Studholme Lodge which is the same lodge which Aleister Crowley attended, he also has regular meeting's at the Cafe De Paris in London amongst fellow Freemason's. Is it really that hard to believe that to become Prime Minister requires you to be a high ranking Freemason and part of the inbred bloodline?. He has covered up pedophile rings for the elite and i would be 100% sure he is part of that filth also, he supported and pushed the War Of Terror, i think it is no brainer he sold his soul to Satan a long time ago.

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason
Meksar, something to ponder upon:

It is possible to be rejected by the masons and still subsequently be treated as a brother by many. I know this for a fact as it has happened to me, including being given the five points of fellowship after a meeting in UGLEs GQS lounge once (and before ugle masons wail and cry that this didnt happen/it wasnt what I thought it was, other masons have given me the nod that indeed from how I describe it it indeed was) and often been called "brother", most recently a couple of weeks ago. My point is that sometimes the masonic world, or at least some masons, do treat someone as being a mason even if they have never been initiated. As a general rule it tends, from my experience, to be masons who look at what people do "in real life" as opposed to "being part of the group." True masons as UGLE perhaps would define in its primary tenet as opposed to simply initiated masons.

My point that it is entirely possible that he has never been initiated into a masonic lodge but some groups within the masonic world may treat him as being a mason. It does happen and sometimes by very long standing, experienced, well travelled, ranking masons who know full well that you have never joined. Much to the annoyance and disbelief of other masons.

Just something to bear in mind.

[ladybird]

Noooooo! :eek:

;)

Of course he is.

Nobody can become a major puppet without being part of "the family"
one way or the other.

.

[guuna]

Meksar, something to ponder upon:

It is possible to be rejected by the masons and still subsequently be treated as a brother by many. I know this for a fact as it has happened to me, including being given the five points of fellowship after a meeting in UGLEs GQS lounge once (and before ugle masons wail and cry that this didnt happen/it wasnt what I thought it was, other masons have given me the nod that indeed from how I describe it it indeed was) and often been called "brother", most recently a couple of weeks ago. My point is that sometimes the masonic world, or at least some masons, do treat someone as being a mason even if they have never been initiated. As a general rule it tends, from my experience, to be masons who look at what people do "in real life" as opposed to "being part of the group." True masons as UGLE perhaps would define in its primary tenet as opposed to simply initiated masons.

My point that it is entirely possible that he has never been initiated into a masonic lodge but some groups within the masonic world may treat him as being a mason. It does happen and sometimes by very long standing, experienced, well travelled, ranking masons who know full well that you have never joined. Much to the annoyance and disbelief of other masons.

Just something to bear in mind.

does that make just some kind of 'honourary mason'?:confused:

also I don't believe that the various lodges disclose their membership lists.

[ladybird]

You can even see the typical handshake on the collar of the order of knighthood
that was instituted by King Charles IX of Sweden in 1606, the Royal Order of Jehova:


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059201169&postcount=23375


Of course this proves nothing about Blair ;)
Just illustrating how deep the rabbit hole goes
and far beyond.

[stewart edwards]

does that make just some kind of 'honourary mason'?:confused:No, I think that it just means that to some masons, they recognise someone who has inspired them/acts in a way that they think masons should act/ recognise them as being a mason even if not initiated into a lodge (take your pick).

My point is that the masonic world is so full of contrdictions that it is entirely possible for some in the masonic wolrd to treat even a known reject as a "brother". Personally I take it as a great honour, though it baffled me for years. My only point re Blair is that it is not impossible that some within the masonic world consider him to be a "brother" even if he has never set foot in a lodge. I mean I cant be the only person in the world that this has happened to. Also dont forget that many masons either dont believe it, cant comprehend it, get annoyed by it, disagree with it (understandably by the way).

About the only time that I could say that I would have been in any way formally honoured by the masonic world was over dinner one night when there was a serious discussion about "making me a mason under the sword" (ie at sight). As I wasnt ready to join any lodge at that time I politely steered the conversation away.

It is a funny old world though how some have openly and plainly stated that I will never get in and some have given me a lot of public grief and ridicule, while others think that it would be a wise mason who listened to me, and that I should hold a rank which would involve me being saluted 5 or 7 (uuurrrrgghhh the thought of that, something that I could well do without).

[meksar]

Blair is not even a human and is clearly possesed, he has a real devilish look about him and is a establishment fudgepacker and child fiddler among even worse things.

[ladybird]

Blair is not even a human and is clearly possesed, he has a real devilish look about him and is a establishment fudgepacker and child fiddler among even worse things.


Exactly!

They all have this look, but you can only see it if your eyes are open.

And their subjects are heavily infiltrating this board.


:mad:

[moon monkey]

Blair is not even a human and is clearly possesed, he has a real devilish look about him and is a establishment fudgepacker and child fiddler among even worse things.

I think you may be right Meksar.

I however stick to what I can prove. Therefore to me he is just a CUNT.

[grandsecretary]

Not my choice of words, but far worse than that. After all, that particular organ has a useful purpose.

[moon monkey]

Not my choice of words, but far worse than that. After all, that particular organ has a useful purpose.

Quite.

[luciferhorus]

According to Chris Everard Blair attends the Studholme Lodge

Witch-Hunting attitudes among Conspiracy Theorists.

http://www.hilaryshepherd.com/rantsnraves/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/stupid_bush.jpg

It is clear that Tony Blair is (by Communist definition) a Capitalist devil, and an Anglo-American state terrorist / narco-terrorist collaborator; this in itself is sufficient to warrant condemnation and execution.

However, unfortunately, since probably the vast majority of the "conspiracy theory crowd are anti-Communists and "Capitalist devils" themselves, there is a tendency to have a "witch hunting" attitude towards anyone who does not share their own brand of Christianity or Capitalist political philosophy, and to throw out numerous false accusations. By the term "Capitalist devil" I do not refer to persons who live in the Capitalist system (since we all live in the Capitalist system), but rather to persons who are by their own political philosophy, evangelical Capitalists and anti-Communists.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00650/news-graphics-2007-_650333a.jpg

There is simply no evidence that Blair is a Freemason; on the contrary he is a Roman Catholic, and a Capitalist Christian, which in my judgement is just as bad and is similarly an executable offense. The statement "According to Chris Everard" does not constitute evidence; hypothetically, even if he is a Masonic cultist, this would anyway make no difference to my judgement of him as a Capitalist devil, a militant state terrorist / narco-terrorist and a Christian collaborator.

http://www.aref-adib.com/archives/Pope_Blair.jpg

He has covered up pedophile rings for the elite

There is a tendency for the conspiracy theory crowds to accuse anyone they don't like of being a paedophile, often based on absolutely no evidence; however with regards to Blair, there is no question about his cover up of establishment figures involved in paedophilia; indeed he did issue a D-notice (a Defence Advisory Notice asking the press from revealing such matters) to this effect.

Further paedophilia is not a "crime" in Christianity and for the Biblical faithists who consider the Bible to be a book of correct dogma and of moral and sacred law;it is simply what sexually repressed priests do for entertainment, and it is not forbidden in the Mosiac Judaic Law; in fact the pillage and rape of "young virgin females is commanded by the Biblical god and this mandate applies to all of tribal god's peoples, the Israelites.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/dreamflow/pedophile.gif

"In 1999, an international investigation of child pornographers and paedophiles run by Britain's National Criminal Intelligence Service, code named Operation Ore, resulted in 7,250 suspects being identified in the United Kingdom alone. Some 1850 people were criminally charged in the case and there were 1451 convictions. Almost 500 people were interviewed "under caution" by police, meaning they were suspects. Some 900 individuals remain under investigation. In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair's government.

However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice. Police also discovered links between British Labour government paedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal (including young boys from the Casa Pia orphanage in Portugal)."

http://www.tpuc.org/node/34


"Operation Ore, the United Kingdom's most thorough and comprehensive police investigation of crimes against children, seems to have uncovered more than is politically acceptable at the highest reaches of the British elite. In the 19th of January edition of The Sunday Herald, Neil Mackay sensationally reported that senior members of Tony Blair's government were being investigated for paedophilia and the "enjoyment" of child-sex pornography:

"The Sunday Herald has also had confirmed by a very senior source in British intelligence that at least one high-profile former Labour Cabinet minister is among Operation Ore suspects. The Sunday Herald has been given the politician's name but, for legal reasons, can not identify the person.

There are still unconfirmed rumours that another senior Labour politician is among the suspects. The intelligence officer said that a 'rolling' Cabinet committee had been set up to work out how to deal with the potentially ruinous fall-out for both Tony Blair and the government if arrests occur."

..............

Speaking from London, freelance journalist Bob Kearley told me:

"Whether or not a D-Notice has been issued is not clear. But based on some of the feedback I've been getting it's apparent that editors and media owners have voluntarily agreed not to cover the story at this time. Operation Ore is still being reported, but not in regard to government ministers, and it's taking up very few column inches on the third or fourth page. Don't forget that the intelligence services are involved here, and Blair is anxious to ensure that the scandal does not rock the boat at a time when the country is about to go to war."

"You can imagine the effect this would have on the morale of troops who are about to commit in Iraq. In fact morale is reportedly quite low anyway, with service personnel throwing their vaccines into the sea en route to the battlefront and knowing how unpopular the war is with the British people. And a lot of squaddies I've met think there's something weird going on between Bush and Blair. If you're then told that the executive responsible for the conduct of the war is staffed by child-molesters ... well, then Saddam suddenly looks like the sort of bloke with whom you can share a few tins ."

http://www.counterpunch.org/james01292003.html

It should further be pointed out that there were a number of problems with the Operation Ore which are pointed out on Operation Ore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Specifically, the child porn site (Landmark) which the credit card details of alleged offenders had been sourced from was also found to be participating in credit card fraud on a rather massive scale.

"thousands of credit card charges were made where there was no access to a site, or access to only a dummy site. When the police finally checked, [B]they found 54,348 occurrences of stolen credit card information in the Landslide database. The British police failed to provide this information to the defendants, and in some cases implied that they had checked and found no evidence of credit card fraud when no such check had been done. Because of the nature of the charges, children were removed from homes immediately. In the two years it took the police to determine that thousands had been falsely accused, over one hundred children had been removed from their homes and denied any unsupervised time with their fathers. The arrests also led to a number of suicides." Ibid

and i would be 100% sure he is part of that filth also, he supported and pushed the War Of Terror,

Yes


i think it is no brainer he sold his soul to Satan a long time ago.

Tony Blair is clearly not a Satanist; if he were he would be an evangelical anti-Christian and an overtly declared enemy of the Christian God (who is the god of Capitalism). One of the worst things I could say about Blair is that he is a "God-ist," a Christian collaborator and an ideological Capitalist; however frankly I would say the same about the vast majority of anti-Masonic conspiracy theorists.

Yes, Blair is certainly a person of no moral worth, however the same can be said of all Christian Capitalists who are simply devotees of a Capitalist devil they refer to as "God."


Lux

[ladybird]

Is this satire or are you really a satanist, luciferhorus?


Interests:

Anarchism. Communism. Ritual Magick. Sex Magick. Necromancy. Remote Viewing. Polyamory (Sexual Communism). Psychoactive Cultivation. Self-fulfilling Prophecy. Apocalyptic Guerialla War. Propaganda. Revolution. Weapons of Mass Destruction. Arm's Manufacturing.
Physics is War. Propaganda is the First Stage of War. Words are Weapons.
'My sacred will be done on earth as it is and shall be in heaven and hell.'
93

http://www.myspace.com/luciferhorus#ixzz0yl7fz0xK

[luciferhorus]

Is this satire or are you really a satanist, luciferhorus?


Interests:

Anarchism. Communism. Ritual Magick. Sex Magick. Necromancy. Remote Viewing. Polyamory (Sexual Communism). Psychoactive Cultivation. Self-fulfilling Prophecy. Apocalyptic Guerialla War. Propaganda. Revolution. Weapons of Mass Destruction. Arm's Manufacturing.
Physics is War. Propaganda is the First Stage of War. Words are Weapons.
'My sacred will be done on earth as it is and shall be in heaven and hell.'
93

http://www.myspace.com/luciferhorus#ixzz0yl7fz0xK


I am an evangelical, genodical, militant, apocalyptic Satanist.

The Masons, Muslims and Christians here are the god-ists.

I thought I had made myself perfectly clear.

Lux

[guuna]

Not my choice of words, but far worse than that. After all, that particular organ has a useful purpose.

... And Blair certainly does not !

[grandsecretary]

I am an evangelical, genodical, militant, apocalyptic Satanist.

The Masons, Muslims and Christians here are the god-ists.

I thought I had made myself perfectly clear.

Lux

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/Mud.jpg

[luciferhorus]

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/Mud.jpg

Fuck your god.

Unlike yourself, Grand Secretary, I do not have to sink down to your level and resort to personal abuse. I am only here to mock your god and to curse him to the eternity of hell where he belongs.

You seem to spend much of your time here mocking me.
And I seem to spend "all" of my time here mocking your god.

You are giving me too much attention.
You are insignificant; but your Capitalist god is very significant;
His demise is much more important to me than yours.

Your god is losing.
He is on the losing side.

I am legion.

I am winning.

I shall previal.

Fuck your god.

The reason I don't ever have to use such language with you;

Is that I am trying to be polite.

Lux.

[grandsecretary]

I am sure that He is utterly devastated. You are funny. :)

[guuna]

Fuck your god.

Unlike yourself, Grand Secretary, I do not have to sink down to your level and resort to personal abuse. I am only here to mock your god and to curse him to the eternity of hell where he belongs.

You seem to spend much of your time here mocking me.
And I seem to spend "all" of my time here mocking your god.

You are giving me too much attention.
You are insignificant; but your Capitalist god is very significant;
His demise is much more important to me than yours.

Your god is losing.
He is on the losing side.

I am legion.

I am winning.

I shall previal.

Fuck your god.

The reason I don't ever have to use such language with you;

Is that I am trying to be polite.

Lux.

which deity are we discussing here? The Biblical God or the deity of Freemasonry?

[nefilim777]

which deity are we discussing here? The Biblical God or the deity of Freemasonry?

Haha. Which God are they ever discussing mate... The 'deity' of Freemasonry [not GS's form] is not one but many.

[luciferhorus]

Haha. Which God are they ever discussing mate... The 'deity' of Freemasonry [not GS's form] is not one but many.

J'Accuse.

Both the Grand Secretary (Peter) of the "Grand Lodge of all England" and the various anonymous representatives of what Peter refers to as "Modern Freemasons" of the associated UGLE (United Grand Lodge of England) cults are gathered here.

Apparently a theological argument exists between these two cults as to the the "Definition" of the god of nature (the Creator of the natural order).

We may refer to Her as the Grand Mistress of the Universe, and the Grand Architect-ress and Sacred Mother of all, to whom the Chrisitians (including the Masons, who are Christians themselves) refer to in the male.

Both definitions of the Goddess are heretical.

Their proponents must be slain by the sword, fire, relentless apocalyptic war, poisoned waters and the fusion of the elements into Light.

Their great temples to the god of Capitalism shall turn to dust.

In the blink of an eye.

On a day and an hour when expected least.

Lux

[nefilim777]

J'Accuse.

Both the Grand Secretary (Peter) of the "Grand Lodge of all England" and the various anonymous representatives of what Peter refers to as Modern Freemasons of the associated UGLE (United Grand Lodge of England) cults are gathered here.

Apparently a theological argument exists between these two cults as to the the "Definition" of the god of nature (the Creator of the natural order).

We may refer to Her as the Grand Mistress of the Universe, and the Grand Architect-ress and Sacred Mother of all, to whom the Chrisitians (including the Masons, who are Christians themselves) refer to in the male.

Both definitions of the Goddess are heretical.

Their proponents must be slain by the sword, fire, relentless apocalyptic war, poisoned waters and the fusion of the elements into Light.

Their great temples to the god of Capitalism shall turn to dust.

In the blink of an eye.

On a day and an hour when expected least.

Lux

Is it even worth it Lucy...

[witch1]

Where's the paranoia on this site?

Look at most of the postings - there is masses of paranoia on this site.

[edelweiss pirate]

Is this satire or are you really a satanist, luciferhorus?


Interests:

Anarchism. Communism. Ritual Magick. Sex Magick. Necromancy. Remote Viewing. Polyamory (Sexual Communism). Psychoactive Cultivation. Self-fulfilling Prophecy. Apocalyptic Guerialla War. Propaganda. Revolution. Weapons of Mass Destruction. Arm's Manufacturing.
Physics is War. Propaganda is the First Stage of War. Words are Weapons.
'My sacred will be done on earth as it is and shall be in heaven and hell.'
93

http://www.myspace.com/luciferhorus#ixzz0yl7fz0xK

Satanist?

Mentalist I would call him.

Still at least we finally know what we're dealing with.

A certifiable nutcase....ORRRRRRR an agent provocateur, especially when he talks about arms manufacturing......

A cointel pro agitator right there.

[grandsecretary]

J'Accuse.

Both the Grand Secretary (Peter) of the "Grand Lodge of all England" and the various anonymous representatives of what Peter refers to as "Modern Freemasons" of the associated UGLE (United Grand Lodge of England) cults are gathered here.

Apparently a theological argument exists between these two cults as to the the "Definition" of the god of nature (the Creator of the natural order).

We may refer to Her as the Grand Mistress of the Universe, and the Grand Architect-ress and Sacred Mother of all, to whom the Chrisitians (including the Masons, who are Christians themselves) refer to in the male.

Both definitions of the Goddess are heretical.

Their proponents must be slain by the sword, fire, relentless apocalyptic war, poisoned waters and the fusion of the elements into Light.

Their great temples to the god of Capitalism shall turn to dust.

In the blink of an eye.

On a day and an hour when expected least.

Lux

Where do you dig up this rubbish LH? We have members who all worship God as Christians, Jews and Muslims.

[ladybird]

Satanist?

Mentalist I would call him.

Still at least we finally know what we're dealing with.

A certifiable nutcase....ORRRRRRR an agent provocateur, especially when he talks about arms manufacturing......

A cointel pro agitator right there.

You may be right, but at least he does not spam or deliberately transform non-pc threads
to end in the dustbin aka Rant Room, he did never defame or insult me, he never called me
an antisemite or a nazi, not even a cointelpro :)
And he never incited others to hunt me down, as far as I know.
So I can understand why he is still tolerated here.

.

[guuna]

Could someone go to the Tate gallery this wednesday and show Blair this thread, ask him to read through it and give us the definative answer?:D

[ladybird]

Could someone go to the Tate gallery this wednesday and show Blair this thread, ask him to read through it and give us the definative answer?:D

This is just another of the 6 million bs threads here
created by the distraction dept.
because everybody with at least 6 brain cells
knows
that Blair is one of the rat pack, no matter what you
prefer to call the club.

[kadosh]

According to Chris Everard, Blair attends the Studholme Lodge which is the same lodge which Aleister Crowley attended, he also has regular meeting's at the Cafe De Paris in London amongst fellow Freemason's. Is it really that hard to believe that to become Prime Minister requires you to be a high ranking Freemason and part of the inbred bloodline?

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason
What a joke. All of this is absolute rubbish. Blair is not a Mason and most certainly he has not visited that lodge and I'm reasonably sure neither did Crowley.

I hope that the non-Masons (mostly anti-Masons) please cease and desist from posting messages that are complete and utter rubbish and nonsense. Most no nothing about Freemasonry and have no first hand knowledge. They simply read stuff posted on the internet and believe it, they then copy and paste it and post it here for the guillible to accept as the truth. What a joke!

[meksar]

What a joke. All of this is absolute rubbish. Blair is not a Mason and most certainly he has not visited that lodge and I'm reasonably sure neither did Crowley.

I hope that the non-Masons (mostly anti-Masons) please cease and desist from posting messages that are complete and utter rubbish and nonsense. Most no nothing about Freemasonry and have no first hand knowledge. They simply read stuff posted on the internet and believe it, they then copy and paste it and post it here for the guillible to accept as the truth. What a joke!

Yeah the Freemasons are not running the country and the high lelvels of power which uphold the establishments will are not filled with masonic pawns like Blair. Crowley was a Satanist and indulged in pedophilia and child sacrifice and is heavily responsible for the Luciferian society we live in now where people can do as they want as long as they don't ask too many question's, the elite prefer it if people's brains are turned to shit through Music, Hollywood etc.

[meksar]

All Conspiracy No Theory

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[guuna]

What a joke. All of this is absolute rubbish. Blair is not a Mason and most certainly he has not visited that lodge and I'm reasonably sure neither did Crowley.

I hope that the non-Masons (mostly anti-Masons) please cease and desist from posting messages that are complete and utter rubbish and nonsense. Most no nothing about Freemasonry and have no first hand knowledge. They simply read stuff posted on the internet and believe it, they then copy and paste it and post it here for the guillible to accept as the truth. What a joke!

well, it is a free forum.

if you wish to post up counter-evidence you are more than free to do so.

[ein_lite]

well, it is a free forum.

if you wish to post up counter-evidence you are more than free to do so.

there's no evidence to counter ...... crowley was not a member of that lodge ... blair would not be a mason (isnt the vatican enough?), maybe the queen though?

[stewart edwards]

I hope that the non-Masons (mostly anti-Masons) please cease and desist from posting messages that are complete and utter rubbish and nonsense. Kadosh

You may be completely accurate 100%. However you appear to miss the point. The point is that the masonic world is no longer trusted nor respected in large swathes of our world. And it is not just on internet forums but also "in real life".

Now you are correct that part of this is due to propoganda, combined with people believing what they are told. But play fair old chap, freemasonry is not immune from this failing itself. Indeed if the masonic world didn't make itself so "believable as a bad guy" by making itself more in tune with the 21st century, raising standards of behaviour, making masons "true" per the first tenet etc, then you really would have far fewer problems. And lets face it Kadosh if you dont get a handle on this now, if the next decade or two turns out to be a tough one, the masons may get all the blame and you could be back to extermination camps. All it would take is for some extreme leaders to gain power. And hey ho look at what is even happening with English politicians getting elelcted given that the public no longer trust "mainstream" politicians.

Instead of winging about antis believing rubbish Kadosh why not strive to put your own house in better order (True masons, back to basics, no religious intolerance etc etc), then the antis would have far less to be concerned about, and the more extreme stuff would be less believable.

It isn't rocket science kadosh. Get your leaders to inspire, touch hearts and close say-do gaps, raise the bar, be the best you can be. Then in two or three decades time you will have walked out of the mess that you have partially created for yourself.

Society is changing fast Kadosh, freemasonry is just as relevant and important, but is, at least the ugle bit, appears to me to be becoming increasingly out of tune with the society it lives in. Few people like change Kadosh but this is the 21st century. You really could do far worse than listen to what I have said and written over the first decade of this millenium, it may just help save your skin.

Alternatively you could keep moaning that others dont trust you and be exasperated as to why they believe all sorts of nonsense. Masonic Grand Masters may issue "cease and desist" orders that masons obey, but the wider world is far more questioning and independent these days.

Anyhow kadosh I hope that you are able to take this post inthe spirit of helpfulness that it is intended. Ignore it if you like, but if you can stomach listening to it and acting upon it, it will I am sure help you out of this crisis of public confidence that has been growing for at least two decades now.

[meksar]

I think you may be right Meksar.

I however stick to what I can prove. Therefore to me he is just a CUNT.

I saw a picture of him with the Homo's Jed Ward recently and that guy is not human, he looks like a real fucking devil. They said he was the biggest diva in attendance and he is a sexually psychotic Freemason.

[luciferhorus]

I saw a picture of him with the Homo's Jed Ward recently and that guy is not human, he looks like a real fucking devil. They said he was the biggest diva in attendance and he is a sexually psychotic Freemason.

Witchhunting

http://www.hakansimsek.com/tablolar/yasli_kadin.jpg

One of the most common groups of victims of the Christian witch-hunts was the unmarried or widowed "crone" or "hag;" this is simply a term for an old woman, who in a world without dentists, doctors and modern plumbing which has improved personal hygiene, was subjected to the natural ageing process and the loss of the beauty of her youth.

The modern "conspiracy theory" witch-hunters seem to have a similar attitude; anyone who is not blessed with natural beauty, or whose beauty has faded with age is similarly likely to be accused of "looking" like a reptile or "looking" a "paedophile." This is all rather similar to "racism" where a person is judged by their appearance.

http://www.urbanhonking.com/universe/Reptoid.jpg

http://whoyoucallingaskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/reptilian-shapeshifter.gif

I must point out that in order to provide evidence of Icke's "shape shifting reptilian" theory that it is insufficient to simply refer to a person as being "ugly" or "physically unnatractive;" there are a great many unnatractive or disabled human beings who are entirely decent persons; one simply cannot judge a person's character by their external appearance; that is simply what children do in a playground.

http://data5.blog.de/media/715/3822715_38f5d30225_m.jpeg

I should point out that the existence of strange creatures, genetic anomalies or simply photos which make a person look rather unnatractive do not constitute proof that a human being can "shape shift" into a reptile.

Lux

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RzbVbx_mJ-0/SUehs_hl8TI/AAAAAAAAHgs/ROrbzOete5k/s800/Five.Mysterious.Skulls.590.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RzbVbx_mJ-0/SR2LlR5IUaI/AAAAAAAAHeM/gLibytEV8io/%5BUNSET%5D.jpg?imgmax=800

[tootrue]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/RE-SIZED/popesignbig.jpg

ooh,
is that for real..., or a montage?

[meksar]

Where's the paranoia on this site?

Look at most of the postings - there is masses of paranoia on this site.

Well then maybe this is the wrong site for you to be on, there are far too many people on here for the wrong reasons in my opinion.

[deadhawk]

It doesn't matter a bit if he's a mason or not
he is a total, fukking, capitalist neo-conservative thatcher-loving upper-middle class want-for-nothing rigour-mortice-grinned, lying, USA-worshipin' bastard- git
that's all ya need to know
:(

[meksar]

It doesn't matter a bit if he's a mason or not
he is a total, fukking, capitalist neo-conservative thatcher-loving upper-middle class want-for-nothing rigour-mortice-grinned, lying, USA-worshipin' bastard- git
that's all ya need to know
:(

He is a Satanic Marxist Zionist Pawn and a Freemason, he enjoys sticking his willy up little boys and girls bums.

[deadhawk]

disgusting thought:eek:
but I'm not surprised to hear folk say so
he sucks shit from satan's big fat Corporate ass

[hadaka_jimmy]

Witchhunting


I totally agree. This 'he or she looks reptilian' is a load of crap frankly. As for looking like a paedophile poor Robert Murat and Stefan Kiszko know/knew all too much about the public's ridiculous assumptions.