100th monkey

[befuddled]

In "...and the Truth Should Set You Free" David refers to the "100th monkey" phenomenon and mentions that this was an outcome from a scientific study. I'd like to read the study to find out more but David doesn't provide a reference to it... does anyone know where I might find this source material?

[daria]

http://pure-research.net/healing/light/monkey.html

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[befuddled]

http://pure-research.net/healing/light/monkey.html

Thanks for this, but it is a piece written about the study. What I'm looking for is a pointer to the original source material i.e. the output from the study itself.

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[befuddled]

I'm new here, so help me out please... is Edit just a troll who routinely deluges these forums with random irrelevant posts, or should I assume that he/she has some purpose in trashing this particular thread?

[ashyr]

hahah yeah i was wondering wtf is that info about.

anyway the 100th monkey idea is very old.
its actually a relative claim in science two. it kinda leans towards proving the ONENESS all conciousness pool of phsyci

although youve already read that from that article.

Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of individuals knows a 'new way', it remains the conscious property of those individuals. However, when one more individual manifests this new awareness, the field is strengthened, a critical mass is reached, and the awareness becomes the conscious property of all. This new awareness is communicated mind to mind.

if your not familiar. the basics are this.

some scientists studied/found that if you took a monkey away from its group or away from the other monkeys. and spend a while teaching it something that monkeys arnt normally doing. like i dont know smoke a ciggy or something amazing.
now somehow the 100th monkey down the phsyci chain knows how 2 do this new thing now. but these 2 monkeys aparently have never met. also it kinda explains this whole.

zule/aborignal/maori/african/egyptian tribes all having the same name for the sun "RA" yet they have never met>?

[ashyr]

edit. if you dont provide some relevance to your spam posting here. i will report you for spam/trolling. you know were trying to tidy up these forums. =/
again if you have some point here. excuse me. i just dont see it.

[befuddled]

hahah yeah i was wondering wtf is that info about.

anyway the 100th monkey idea is very old.
its actually a relative claim in science two. it kinda leans towards proving the ONENESS all conciousness pool of phsyci

if your not familiar. the basics are this....

Thanks ashyr for an intelligible response ;-)

I'm quite familiar with the idea, have read quite a few commentaries on it, it's just that I was keen to have a look at the source material, to see what the scientists who did the work actually had to say about it.

[whitelightrabbit]

i dont know, but monkeys are horrid.

[sunyatta60]

In "...and the Truth Should Set You Free" David refers to the "100th monkey" phenomenon and mentions that this was an outcome from a scientific study. I'd like to read the study to find out more but David doesn't provide a reference to it... does anyone know where I might find this source material?

Hi The first Scientists to bring this to public attention was the Cambridge Biologist Rupert Sheldrake I believe he made a reference to it in his book A New Science of Life in which he put forward the idea of Morphic Resonance. In this theory Information is travelling between people/monkeys etc in a form similar to telepathy.
What happened with the Monkeys was that the Monkeys lived on different Islands somewhere out in the pacific and the Monkeys were fed potatoes.
Under observation it was noticed that One of the adult female monkeys began washing grit off of her potatoes and the other monkeys in her social group began to engage in the same behaviour within a matter of days.
This new emergent behaviour was then observed on a nearby Island and within weeks it was reported that Monkeys on the most distant Islands in the arichpegalo were also washing their potatoes.
Sheldrake calls this morphic resonance and it is a very good theory imho that brings much of what we call paranormal activity into the realms of science.
I do have some articles on this which names the monkey and the scientists who wrote the paper but it is buried somewhere under a mass of other paper work. I hope that I have given you the right pointer though to track it all down Sheldrake is the man to look at.

[befuddled]

Hi The first Scientists to bring this to public attention was the Cambridge Biologist Rupert Sheldrake ... Sheldrake is the man to look at.

Thanks for the pointer. I looked at Sheldrake's web site (http://www.sheldrake.org/faq/answers.html) and he says:
"The 100th monkey story is often told and appears to support the idea of morphic resonance. However, I never use this myself because most of the versions of it that are in circulation have drifted a long way from the actual facts."

He goes on to cite Lyall Watson as his source for the story and then states:
"Watson ... tells the original version of the 100th monkey story, making it clear that this is not literally what happened but a kind of dramatisation of it".

So, sadly, it doesn't look like Dr. Sheldrake will lead me to the original source material on this. Thanks again for the suggestion, though. It is interesting that he refers to it six times as a "story"... I do wonder how much one should read into that choice of word?

[sunyatta60]

Ok I found this:

In his book The Hundredth Monkey, Ken Keyes, Jr. wrote about scientists who had been observing monkeys in the wild for thirty years. In 1952, on the Japanese island of Koshima, they provided monkeys with sweet potatoes which they had dropped in sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the potatoes but found the sand unpleasant.

One day, an eighteen month old monkey named Imo washed the potatoes in a nearby stream. She taught the trick to her mother and her playmates, who taught it to their mothers. Apparently 99 monkeys learned to wash their sweet potato between 1952 and 1958. Once the 100th monkey learnt this suddenly, almost every monkey on the island began to wash their potatoes before eating them. The added energy of this 100th monkey had somehow created a behavioural breakthrough.

More amazing, the scientists observed that the act of washing sweet potatoes had jumped over the sea, because the colonies of monkeys on other islands, as far as 500 miles away, began washing their sweet potatoes.


This phenomenon is considered to be due to critical mass. When a limited number of people know something in a new way, it remains the conscious property of only those people. The Hundredth Monkey Syndrome hypothesises that there is a point at which if only one more person tunes in to a new awareness, a field of energy is strengthened so that new awareness is picked up by almost everyone.

[befuddled]

Ok I found this:

In his book The Hundredth Monkey, Ken Keyes, Jr. wrote about scientists who had been observing monkeys in the wild for thirty years...

Thanks again... maybe Keyes' book has the details of the scientists' original paper? Does anyone out there have it, please?

[sunyatta60]

Part of the book can be read for free here although I have not read it yet. Ok you can downlaod the entire book for free from that site. If the info regarding the science is not in the notes then I suggest you contact Ken himself. I have done that with authors like Fred Alan Wolf and Sue Blackmore and they are usually very helpful and welcome such inquires. Let us know how you get on because it is very interesting.

http://www.spiritual-endeavors.org/peace/the-hund.htm

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[QUOTE=sunyatta60;206760]Part of the book can be read for free here although I have not read it yet. Ok you can downlaod the entire book for free from that site. If the info regarding the science is not in the notes then I suggest you contact Ken himself...
Once again thank you for the pointer; I read the book (it's quite short) and Mr. Keyes just quotes Lyall Watson as his source.

I haven't read Watson's book but as you might remember from a few posts back, according to Sheldrake "Watson ... tells the ... story, making it clear that this is not literally what happened but a kind of dramatisation of it". So I'm assuming that Watson doesn't reference the source scientific material, but if anyone has the "Lifetide" book maybe they could check?

I wish it was possible to contact Ken himself but sadly he died in 1995.

[sunyatta60]

Hi I never knew he had passed on but that site where you can read the book you can also download his book from there. The references should be in there if they are to be found anywhere.
Best of luck with the search.