Breaking the mental eggshell

[Anders Lindman]

The cells inside my body are me. The cells outside my body are also me! :eek: For example, your cells are also me. They are parts of the same hologram.

The mental mind is a reflection of the physical hologram called the universe.

We must break the mental mind's eggshell of separation.

How? I have not figured it out yet, but I'm working on it. :)

[Anders Lindman]

One idea is that changing the mind's perspective will change the physical world since they are reflections of each other. This is way, way beyond positive thinking. When we change our mind's perspective, the entire universe changes.

[dmt head]

Psychedelics, mainly plant derived ones DMT, Mushrooms lol :D one time on hawaian baby woodrose seeds all i kept thinking of was everything was one and the same like bill hicks said we are all energy vibrating at different rates lol

[Anders Lindman]

Psychedelics, mainly plant derived ones DMT, Mushrooms lol :D one time on hawaian baby woodrose seeds all i kept thinking of was everything was one and the same like bill hicks said we are all energy vibrating at different rates lol

:eek: The problem is that psychedelics don't seem to change reality, only temporary change the perception of it.

[rebel ins]

have no idea, was thinking about the same thing

try making ths awareness of a hologram a habit, incorporating it into your actions all the time?

I know about Pribram's/Bohm's/Talbot's/Aspect's theories

but are you 100 % sure that ''oneness'' is the truth, new agers use it so much, and they were set up by the government ...

love seems to be the right path, marginalizing ego, at least it makes me (hopefully others, not sure maybe others have a different path ...) happy

[dmt head]

:eek: The problem is that psychedelics don't seem to change reality, only temporary change the perception of it.

Thats still changing it and I wouldnt say they change it just temporarily, for me anyway they changed me for ever same with Ickes books after reading them :D

try making ths awareness of a hologram a habit, incorporating it into your actions all the time?



Thats what Icke said try and remember every single day that its an illusion.

[368jrn]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8583321771218053615&q=bentov&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

This a very good video explaining the holographic nature of reality that Mr Icke talks of.

Ive come to realise that this is the nature of this reality.

You are not your body. Our bodies are 70% water, and of the remaining 30
%, half is composed of bacterial mass, so its more of a symbiotic relationship than an individual "being". "We" ( our consciousness ) is just the software that is running the holographic hardware that is our body.:)

[Anders Lindman]

Yes, I have watched that video. Very good. Especially the diagram he drew with how separate individuals on the physical level began to overlap on the soul level and then even further up consciousness merged into a unified field.

The body contains of............99.999...% empty space! And even the particles are not solid! :D

[seer74]

there is no eggshell. you have at no time percieved a separateness. you only THINK you percieve it. your senses are 100% non-dual. as you have never percieved any time but now, you have never percieved anything separately, you percieve the whole of your experience as one. you merely break it down with words. the only dualism is in words. "self"/"other" "here"/"there" "now"/"then" etc, etc. these are merely words

[seer74]

wanna break the eggshell? quit talking in words!!! you are confuseing the MAP with the TERRITORY

[beldazar]

I have to agree with Anders here... I have done a lot of magic mushrooms, always taking no less than 200 at a time, I have done lots of L.S.D. trips as well. I spent 17 years addicted to pot until I went to a 12 step programme to break free of it. I only got this far AFTER I stopped doing drugs, I used to experiment with mushrooms such as holding a flame under my finger and not feel any burning, running around a steep ploughed field, smelling the earth and lots more I cant remember now, the mushrooms took me to a place I preferred, even the DARK side, but that was NOTHING compared to this, this is a new experience....

[seer74]

I have to agree with Anders here... I have done a lot of magic mushrooms, always taking no less than 200 at a time, I have done lots of L.S.D. trips as well. I spent 17 years addicted to pot until I went to a 12 step programme to break free of it. I only got this far AFTER I stopped doing drugs, I used to experiment with mushrooms such as holding a flame under my finger and not feel any burning, running around a steep ploughed field, smelling the earth and lots more I cant remember now, the mushrooms took me to a place I preferred, even the DARK side, but that was NOTHING compared to this, this is a new experience....

ok, so, i agree with what i think is your main point here. psychedelics can temporarily open your mind to higher levels of consciousness, i think they do this by briefly disrupting the conditioning. But yeah, long term they really just reinforce a conditioned perception that something outside of yourself can confer higher consciousness that is just waiting deep inside of yourself for something, anything, even a drug to disrupt the programming that keeps your consciousness limited. once one breaks that conditioning one should immediately recognize that the higher consciousness is readily available "within you and without you" with no need of repeating whatever it was that snapped you out of the conditioned patterns of consciousness. the same goes for rituals etc. almost anything has the potential shake up the matrix a bit, and likewise the potential become yet another form of conditioning. and, yes, 12-step programs are this way as well. drugs have helped some people on the path to enlightenment. 12-step programs have helped some people become free of their drug dependancys. both have helped keep many more people programmed into the matrix.

and yes, i've made far more long-term progress off of mind-altering agents than i ever did when i was still useing them.