Are you awake?

[theoriginalmurph]

I'm not sure how to start an opinion poll here, so I hope this works. I just want to ask this simple question to everyone on the David Icke forum:

Are you awake?

Whatever it means to you is perfectly acceptable, however you define "awake", whether it be did you get a good sleep last night, and woke up refreshed this morning, or whether it be that you've discovered how the so-called Control System conducts false-flag operations, or whether it be that you've attained some greater spiritual awareness, or whatever. I'm hoping to find some consensus on the matter because I'm starting to wonder just how influential this "movement" happens to be. I'm convinced that the people who post on this forum are some of the most powerful people on the planet, no matter what their age, their background, their social status, their lifestyle, their gender, race, or sexual orientation, their job, their wealth, etc. I'm talking about the sheer amount of faith, the raw wattage of that energy, and the power to recreate this world.

Today, 9/11/10, the Kucinich people sent me a link to a video where he talks about 911 Truth and Reconciliation, and while he doesn't say that the 9/11 attacks were in inside job, he does say that the wars in Afganistan and Iraq are founded on lies, and that those who instigated those wars should be held accountable. Well, I'm not endorsing any politicians here, but I do believe that we have the power to do a little magic, and turn the tables on the Control System, so to speak. I would even go so far as to request that everyone simply write down on a scrap of paper "911 Truth and Reconciliation" and perform some ritual, and that be enough to move the mountain, so to speak. That is just an example of the power of faith I'm talking about.

Please have the courage to post your opinions, no matter how ridiculous they might be to anyone else...

[energi]

Yes, BUT...

[bozon]

I don't believe in being spiritually awake or asleep... it seems much more intuitive to think in terms of a continuing journey. I don't see any spiritual destinations, just people searching for their own brand of meaning/truth/illumination.

I'd have broken the two categories down into 'spiritually interested' and 'spiritually disinterested' people. But I think 99% of the people here would be in the first category. This doesn't seem the sort of forum that attracts the spiritually dead. Although I apologise if I offended any spiritually dead minority groups out there.

[hsm123]

Like Icke says, awakening is a process. Nobody is fully awake, or that would mean we know everything about everything. But every day, it seems we are becoming more and more aware and attuned to the truth.

And everyone is at different stages. But i think the majority on this forum will eventually become "enlightened". So we can say we have woken up to certain things, but most of us cannot say we are awake. As in we are awake period. But i do believe we are going there.

[zsymon]

I just think of being awake as realizing that you came to Earth
with a purpose, with a task.. and you want to fulfill this purpose.
I don't think being awake has anything to do with knowledge..

[theoriginalmurph]

Like Icke says, awakening is a process. Nobody is fully awake, or that would mean we know everything about everything. But every day, it seems we are becoming more and more aware and attuned to the truth.

And everyone is at different stages. But i think the majority on this forum will eventually become "enlightened". So we can say we have woken up to certain things, but most of us cannot say we are awake. As in we are awake period. But i do believe we are going there.

That's an excellent point, because I can say, at least for myself, that there are some things I just don't want to know about, especially when it comes to things like what people do in the privacy of their own homes.

And, thanks to everyone for the feedback. I assumed everyone would just click "yes", and so all those who clicked "no" really offer some perspective. There's wisdom there, I think.

[lee13]

I awoke when I discarded my religious beliefs. It was hard, 25years of brainwashing. I have the odd lapse and revert back to the old book, but then soon realise the damage it made to my relationships.

[opas23]

There is no 'both' option or 'none' to click, which can be seen as exactly the same really.

The 'I' used to tell a story using language has no existence anyway so is neither awake or asleep.

There seems natural cycles of awake/expansion and asleep/contraction so again, both and neither!

What this apparent cycle seems to happen in and as, just is.

Ineffable,

Opas23. ;)

[theoriginalmurph]

I awoke when I discarded my religious beliefs. It was hard, 25years of brainwashing. I have the odd lapse and revert back to the old book, but then soon realise the damage it made to my relationships.

I guess what is a blessing for some is a curse for another. I've an uncle who went to prison, and then when he got out, he much zeal for his religion, even to the point where he wanted to gather a following and lead them out to the desert in some sort of quest to the promised land. Not enough grains of salt in his diet of mysticism, it seems. The weird thing is, he could have been successful as a man of the cloth, but he couldn't be flexible enough with others, that he had a very "I'm right and you're wrong" attitude about everything, and for someone who claimed to be pious, he spent an awful lot of time getting pissed and cussing people out when they wouldn't see things his way. It basically got to the point where it was difficult for everyone to tolerate having him around, so he moved away.

It's sad when that sort of thing happens to people because I think scriptures can be very useful at times. When it's a personal thing, and it's not being imposed on others, the books can be very insightful, even helping to dislodge whatever mental constipation that blocks up the intuition. It's like, the book of Revelations is probably one of my all time favorite pieces of literature, in that I;ve seen a new way of interpreting it every time I've read it, but I'm not so sure those interpretations apply to everyone across the board in so far as Heaven and Hell are two sides of the same coin, that coin being a state of mind while living on the Earth.

If you think you're in Heaven, you're just ignoring your Hell, and if you think you're in Hell, you're just ignoring your Heaven, if that makes sense. I guess the question becomes, do people use the book to pull themselves out of that state of mind, or are they using the book to put others into that state of mind?

Ugh, I'm rambling on about nonsense now. Have a nice day.

[mrindigo]

I went with no. I would say I'm aware on some level. I don't view the term as simply having a broad overview of how the social constructs work. A lot of people do, and they're entitled to that.

I'm still in the dark as much as anyone else. A social title, books, and dvds aren't going to change that indefinitely. They're potential steps in the right direction, but the path through life is a long, and sometimes an arduous one.

Nothing is ever as it seems either. Just when I think I have something figured out, I find that I really didn't know it's full depths. Even then it can be difficult to know just how deep the proverbial rabbit hole really goes. For me to claim that I am awakened when so little is understood about everything, is a bit misleading. Ego often has it's way with with instilling delusions of grandeur.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I'm not awake.