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Anders Lindman
03-11-2007, 06:33 AM
I read that some of the ten commandments are:
"Remember the Sabbath day, and keep it holy.
For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns."
From: Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Does the seventh day mean Sunday? And if so, are priests really allowed to work on Sundays according to the Bible? If not, I find it strange that so many people go to church on Sundays, when their priests are not allowed to work. Shouldn't then churches be closed on Sundays?
Anders Lindman
03-11-2007, 06:51 AM
I found that:
"The Christian names are derived from Hebrew, which numbers all days of the week beginning with "First day" for Sunday but ending with the "Sabbath" for Saturday."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_the_week#Christianization
So the seventh day for priests is Saturday, not Sunday. And then priests are following the ten commandments if they don't work on Saturdays.
Strange, then that:
"After the week was adopted in Early Christian Europe, Sunday remained the first day of the week, but also gradually displaced Saturday as the day of celebration and rest, being considered the Lord's Day. In some places Sunday thus came to be viewed as the last day of the week."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_the_week#First_day_of_the_week
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snoopsnuffleopagus
03-11-2007, 06:57 AM
Shalom:
Excellent observation Messenger Lindman.
Yahwehs Sabbath is the Seventh Day. In the Book of Yahweh(bible), the Day begins at sunset and continues to the following sunset.
Yahwehs Sabbath: Friday Sundown until Saturday Sundown.
This is to be a 'Sign' for Yahweh so He knows His own.
If anyone obeys Yahwehs Sabbaths and Laws, they are Yahwehs.
The 'Sign' of Yahweh is the opposite of the 'Mark' of the Beast.
Have no doubt. Yahshua Messiah(jesus) was a practising Jew, a Rabbi who taught and obeyed all 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes of Yahweh.
99.9% of Churchs & Synagogues could accurately be deemed: Apostate> Fallen away from original teachings.
Jazz compared to Classical.
This widespread Apostasy could be considered the Root Cause of a great deal of Humankinds problems.
The Book of Yahweh Thread was established to present the undiluted teaching.
I present some quality control verses: ie: Do not add, subtract or change anything.
Read the Book of Yahweh Thread and compare that to the mainstream teachings. A vast difference.
Huge.
'THEY' have changed everything. To deceive.
Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus
Addendum: The answer to your query is: NO
The 'reason' they present is non-sense.
Of the Ten Commandments: The first four commandments instruct how to Love Father Yahweh.
The remaining six instruct how to Love your Neighbour.
The violations of the Commandments concerning COVETING, unlawful desires, are a Root Cause of many problems.
The First Positive Commandment: Believe in Yahweh as the Only Source of Power in the Universe.
Positive Commandment 154: The Seventh Day of every week is Yahwehs Sabbath of Rest and a Holy Convocation.
razed1
03-11-2007, 04:27 PM
ask, why are ther 10
why not 12
or 7
or 13
could this be more proof for the influence of the pharoah akhenaTEN, or aton, aten
check tsarions work on this issue
theres more and more proof in the languages of this one mans influnce on the type of world we live in today
adimon
03-11-2007, 05:32 PM
"..You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.."
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/01/70/22777001.jpg
snoopsnuffleopagus
03-11-2007, 05:38 PM
Cordial Felicitations Razed 1:
There are 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes>the Torah.
There are no more or no less and they are not to be altered or changed in anyway.
Of course this was done immediately by the Wanton Hand of Man.
The Reason for 613 Laws is to provide specificity of conduct in any conceivable Human or Environmental situation.
As Yahshua Messiah informed us: Love Father Yahweh with all your Heart, Mind and Body and Love Your Neighbour as yourself, on these two commandments depend the whole of the Law. All 613.
As I am a Janitor and not a Teacher, I do not have full understanding of Yahwehs Doctrines. My opinion is: There is more Merit to them, than people percieve.
Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus
daro2096
04-12-2008, 07:51 PM
Cordial Felicitations Razed 1:
There are 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes>the Torah.
There are no more or no less and they are not to be altered or changed in anyway.
Of course this was done immediately by the Wanton Hand of Man.
The Reason for 613 Laws is to provide specificity of conduct in any conceivable Human or Environmental situation.
As Yahshua Messiah informed us: Love Father Yahweh with all your Heart, Mind and Body and Love Your Neighbour as yourself, on these two commandments depend the whole of the Law. All 613.
As I am a Janitor and not a Teacher, I do not have full understanding of Yahwehs Doctrines. My opinion is: There is more Merit to them, than people percieve.
Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus
Most of those 613 laws are really explainations of the ten.
coshh
05-12-2008, 10:47 PM
Work means servile work.
You are not supposed to do servile work on Sunday to reflect the idea that Christ "set us free".
The law of upholding the "Sabbath" is sort of transfered to Sunday in that Sunday has become the Lords day through His resurrection. But the strict sense of the Sabbath "law" does not pertain to Gentiles.
the_red_jester
11-12-2008, 08:55 AM
surely all of Gods days are holy. The cows do not stop eating grass on the Sabbath just because it says so in the Bible to no work on that day. I personally feel that the information has been corrupted to serve a higher purpose (and its not that of serving God!). I relish the gift of life and treat everyday as holy, giving thanks and praise to God for the gift of life. But hey thats just my opinion and in that everyone has free will to do as they choose, take your pick!
Also another point in the act of Holy Communion the symbolism of eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ - does that not strike anyone as slightly satanic in nature? I do not mean to offend ANYONE as that is not my intention mearly to get people to think for themselves rather than blindly following a set of dogma. Interestingly enough if you read the Talmud of Immanuel/Jmmanuel (found by Billy Meier and associate in I think 1967 in the cave along with the Shroud of Turin..) it has a totally different interpretation of the gospel according to Matthew. the Talmud is written by none other than Judas Iscarioth - the apparent traitor. Considering he was the disciples accountant why would he possibly want 30 pieces of silver when he had access to so much more..? further more why commit suicide?the act of self murder which is specifically forbidden by the Commandments of God and the disciples followed Jesus so why break such a sacred promise (for want of a better word)?
Just some food for thought!
Peace by with you
phildee3
11-12-2008, 10:45 AM
Some do, some don't.
Jewish priests should.
Christian priests are not obliged to.
Saturday is the Sabbath, - the last day of the week whan Jews celebrate the day that the creator rested.
Sun-day is the first day of the week, when Jesus rose from the dead.
They are nothing to do with each other.
The tradition of not working on Sundays is to have the day off to worship, not to rest.
oiram
12-12-2008, 03:30 AM
Covenant: Old and New
The Nine Commandments
Some Christian teachers argue that the ten commandments were done away with at the cross and now we are under grace. But when you question them about specific commandments, you find that they actually believe that God commands them to have no other gods before Him and to refrain from idol worship. They believe blasphemy is unlawful, disrespect for parents, murder, adultery, stealing, deception and covetousness. The only one of the Ten Laws which they truly wish to reject is the fourth commandment, which asks men to set aside the seventh day of the week as holy to God.
When this is pointed out, these teachers state that Christ gave instruction in the New Testament for the keeping of the other nine commandments. They would have people believe that Christ did away with the ten commandments ("nailed to the cross", later Armenianism) and then reissued nine of them for the sole purpose of doing away with the Sabbath. -- This is another one of Satan's arguments to get people to disobey God's clear command. What they do in effect is this, they remove the sin detector (God's law) and as a consequence have no knowledge of their sinful condition and therefore cannot cooperate with the High Priest in heaven and know that they need a saviour from certain sins, Gal. 2:16. The Bible teaches that commandment keeping is not the basis of salvation but it is the condition of salvation.
The reasoning behind all of the other commandments can be rationally understood: man derives benefits from respect for God, from others not trying to murder him, steal his spouse and possessions, etc. This one law, the 4th commandment, is different they claim. Man cannot see any benefit to himself from exalting this specific day of the week above the rest. Accordingly, the only reason one would choose to keep the 7th day holy instead of another day of the week is because God said to keep it. This day, like nothing else among the institutions of faith in the Almighty God, distinguished Israel from surrounding nations. Its observance designated them as His worshipers. Keeping the Sabbath is a token (or seal) of separation from idolatry, to instead connect with the true God. By divine fiat a particular portion of time was sanctified and hallowed, but in order to keep the Sabbath holy, men must themselves be holy. Through faith they must become partakers of the righteousness of Christ. When the command was given to Israel, "Remember the the Sabbath day, to keep it holy," the Lord also said to them, "You, Israel, shall be holy men unto Me." (Ex. 20:8; 22:31). Only this way could the Sabbath distinguish Israel as the worshipers of God. And that is why Jesus stated that keeping this day holy is of imperishable obligation for all mankind, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no wise pass from the law", much less an entire commandment.
Those, who hold that Christ abolished the law, teach, that He broke the Sabbath and justified His disciples in doing the same, are really taking the stance of the Pharisees. In this they contradict the testimony of Jesus Christ Himself, who declared, "I have kept My Father's commandments, and abide in His love." John 15:10 Neither the Saviour nor His followers broke the law of the Sabbath.
Just as in the beginning God arbitrarily chose one tree and forbade Adam and Eve to eat of it to test their obedience [1440], so God has arbitrarily chosen one day to test the obedience of their descendants. Thus those who willfully choose to disobey this one law show that they are not being obedient to any of God's commands; they are guilty of disobeying all commandments, James 2:10. For you see, it is not the greatness of the act of disobedience that constitutes sin, but the fact of variance from God's expressed will in the least particular, for this shows that there is yet communion between the soul and sin. We cannot disregard one word, however trifling it may seem to us, and be safe.
http://www.specialtyinterests.net/old_and_new_covenant.html#ton
measle_weasel
12-12-2008, 06:24 AM
ask, why are ther 10, why not 12, or 7, or 13
could this be more proof for the influence of the pharoah akhenaTEN, or aton, aten
check tsarions work on this issue
theres more and more proof in the languages of this one mans influnce on the type of world we live in today
You do realize, of course, that english did not exist 4,000 (or whatever) years ago, correct? Therefore, the pronunciation of "ten" most likely meant something entirely different than it does today. Pronouncing "ten" may have been nothing but jibberish, except in the context "aten", "akhenaten", etc. "ten" doubtfully meant "10", back then.