WTF!!?Where are the loving Alchemists?

[lateral_v]

I know there's a possibility you've seen this elsewhere in this forum, there's a hell of alot of info, so if u've seen this already I do apologize....watch it again then....:D

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

my quenstion, where are all the loving Alchemists? Note how the word sodom reminds you of "Sodomour" (Lord of the Rings )

Gandalf where are you?? We are all magicians my friends!!! Lets unite and take our power back!!


Recommended reading:
- Te Alchemist - Paulo Coehlo (inspiration and the simple truths of life)
- What the bleep do we know -William Arntz,Betzy Chasse & Mark Vicente(Quantum physics, consiousness,the brain,realityAeWSOME!!)
- Numerology and your future -Dusty Bunker(Numerology is maths of the Matrix, to master it would help to guide you in this web of deceit)

Any other suggestions will be highly appreciated.

Tell me pliz any positive books on kabballa or are they all dark?:confused:

[cruise4]

Very interesting. I know nothing about this aspect. From just reading a bit about it I'm getting the impression that alchemy isn't about chemicals, its about energies, ditto Kabbalah. These energies are the real makeup of things and these energies can be accessed. Access enables utilisation. Its all science but tied up with mysticism that confuses the casual listener. Is this sorta right?

So whats demons or angels? What are symbols? Why does good and evil come into it?

Obviously I have further reading to do :D but can anyone sum this up in a meaningful way without all the accompanying 'ancient world' prattle?

Thanks. All I've read so far is this:
http://www.hermetic.com/stavish/essays/secret-fire.html

[lateral_v]

Very interesting. I know nothing about this aspect. From just reading a bit about it I'm getting the impression that alchemy isn't about chemicals, its about energies, ditto Kabbalah. These energies are the real makeup of things and these energies can be accessed. Access enables utilisation. Its all science but tied up with mysticism that confuses the casual listener. Is this sorta right?

So whats demons or angels? What are symbols? Why does good and evil come into it?

Obviously I have further reading to do :D but can anyone sum this up in a meaningful way without all the accompanying 'ancient world' prattle?

Thanks.

Your more than welcome, I don't know really where to place angels, simplisticly the way I c it is that there IS of the same matter but loving remember what Icke said in I am me I am free? In that diagram, currently there is but an inbalance, symbols are a form of magic, think about it...it's like the chant a witch would sing and it is more powerful than you'd ever imagine
symbols = alchemy
alchemy=passion
passion=courage
courage =wisdom

And what is wisome if it cannot be implied....

I do believe in angels, it would be silly not to, i'm such a rebel, and here still i am, in fact i thunk i have a hole "army" of gaurdian angels, and possibly so do YOU, aint that wonderful?? :D

[cruise4]

But is a witchs chant magic? Or just use of sound, vibration and energy manipulation cloaked in fantasy mysticism?

Are symbols magic? Or just another type of Iron core as in an electric motor?

To be honest I'm struggling to understand that last post

[lateral_v]

But is a witchs chant magic? Or just use of sound, vibration and energy manipulation cloaked in fantasy mysticism?

Do you think it really matters? All that differs here is the fact that it can be clasified, I've read something the other day.....got me thinking....Every time you curse someone or something, you actually cast a dark spell, with that you harm more than you intended to in he heat of anger and 9 outta 10 times yourself aswell.....

We gotta start watching our tounges.......one of the wise lessons in the bible...

[lateral_v]

To be honest I'm struggling to understand that last post
I'm struggling to understand it myself.....just consider this Anything is possible.... doesit make more sense to u now?

[razed1]

king arthur sits on a log and his stepbrother comes up to see him

arthur has a piece of metal in his hand

"did you steal that?!?" his brother asks

"no", replies arthur, im trying to learn alchemy

"YOU KNOW ALCHEMY?" his brothers eyes grew wide


after ten minutes of sitting there with arthur with his eyes closed, his stepbrother yells

"youre a FRAUD! youve just been sitting there and that pot is STILL not GOLD!"


"of course not" arthur replied

"I'M the one trying to turn into gold......"


;)

[lateral_v]

But is a witchs chant magic? Or just use of sound, vibration and energy manipulation cloaked in fantasy mysticism?

Are symbols magic? Or just another type of Iron core as in an electric motor?

To be honest I'm struggling to understand that last post

Symbols, Numbers, chant's, music all have certain frequencies, everything is vibration, nothing that we say or do or think goes without reaction, the thing is just with the ages that have past we have forgotton this...it has been hidden from us, because our left male dominant side of the brain is overly active, and the right side of the brain wich is the female creative mind, has been silenced and surpressed.. Check out this link by mcmenek1

http://mcmenek1.spiritual-nature.com/

You should understand it a bit better afterwards, also a very cool book to read is Secrets of the Widow's Son - David E Shugart, it explains, kabblah, numerology, Music, etc very briefly but you should get the idea..

Magicians and Alchemist know's this and have perfected the skill of waving magic, wich in fact can be practiced by anyone..

The intention behind it is what makes the diffrence

[lumukanda]

have you read 'the zelator' by mark hedsel and david orvason?
that book more than anything opened my eyes to the alchemy and symbolism.

[lateral_v]

have you read 'the zelator' by mark hedsel and david orvason?
that book more than anything opened my eyes to the alchemy and symbolism.

Nope I haven't, but thanx! I will most def check it out, have been looking for something on this subject for a while now..:)

[lumukanda]

i picked up two copies at bargain books for about R20 each, best 40 bucks i ever spent!

[octopusrex]

Loving lefties?

Hardly, hardly.

[armoured_amazon]

I do believe in angels, it would be silly not to, i'm such a rebel, and here still i am, in fact i thunk i have a hole "army" of gaurdian angels, and possibly so do YOU, aint that wonderful?? :D

There are angels everywhere, some looking after people, some preparing; they are NOT here to be worshipped. They are workers. Nor are they smiley fluffy winged people.

[lateral_v]

There are angels everywhere, some looking after people, some preparing; they are NOT here to be worshipped. They are workers. Nor are they smiley fluffy winged people.


I'm aware of them.....

"Smiley, fluffy" :confused: :confused: "worship?" :confused:

You've lost me there...

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

i pracitce internal alchemy :-) and majik-but it is my own brand-non ritualistic-i would love to discuss this :-)
havn't met any physcial alchemists...

[lumukanda]

when i think of alchemy it's all internal, we are the lead and by transforming ourselves we attain a higher state, symbolised by gold, thats my take on it anyway.
it's the symbolism aspect of alchemy that always blew my mind.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

Or just use of sound, vibration and energy manipulation cloaked in fantasy mysticism?

i use sound to heal- i use sound to channel the energy of God through me-the intrinsic natural energy that is all around us.

[lateral_v]

i pracitce internal alchemy :-) and majik-but it is my own brand-non ritualistic-i would love to discuss this :-)
havn't met any physcial alchemists...


You've got my attention, can u elaborate a bit more on this? I suppose you then don not use any symbols etc.?

[octopusrex]

Shaktas vs. Bhaktas.

Oldest fight in the world.