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ms hope
12-08-2010, 10:55 PM
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/New-site-shame-sex-offenders/article-2517593-detail/article.html


New site to shame sex offenders


EXETER anti-paedophile campaigner Chris Wittwer is launching a new dedicated website to identify convicted child sex offenders.
Mr Wittwer, a former landlord who has had death threats and been assaulted in the street since he started his crusade, said he intended the new site to carry the names, photographs and addresses of thousands of convicted paedophiles in the UK.

He said it had been funded by thousands of pounds in donations.
The ex-Army chef and father of two said: "These will be people who have charged, convicted and sentenced, whether it was prison or community service."

The site will also carry a list of missing children in the UK.
He said he expected the new site to attract 250,000 "hits" within days of going on line.

A previous site listing paedophiles was closed down by police when he first started the venture two years ago for Devon — but he was able to start again after showing he was not breaking any laws by presenting information already in the public domain. Mr Wittwer said this time would be different.
"I am using a unique US server which has so far cost over £10,000 to set up," he said.

"The money has come from donations that have been made to the cause after previous stories about me and my work in the Echo and national newspapers."

Mr Wittwer said he had also created a new campaigning group called CHRIS — Children Have Rights in Society — which includes a child abuse awareness video.

Mr Wittwer, 34, who lives in the Exeter area and used to run the Royal Oak pub in Exminster, said he did not think the government did enough to inform the public about sex offenders living in the community.
"I don't condone any violence," he said. "I am not a vigilante.
"People can see who is in their area and keep their children away from them.
"There is more justice served by what I am doing than any court or jail can ever do.

"What I am doing is a serious deterrent for people who have done it, are thinking of doing it or re-offending."

He has already set up a database of 6,000 convicted sex offenders and paedophiles on Facebook which he said was the largest photographic gallery in the world after spending hours gathering police mugshots of registered sex offenders.


Comment:

Chris Wittwer is an unsung warrior who is doing more for the protection of our children and the prevention of further abuse than our UK Justice, legal and care system. All power to you Chris. It was a privilege to meet you at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010.
Pie and Mash Films
"God bless all victims and survivors".

Maria Maloney, London UK

jiffy
12-08-2010, 11:01 PM
Great idea, just what you want a vigilante brain dead bunch maiming people because their a pediatrician

anyuser
12-08-2010, 11:47 PM
It won't matter much. I researched the sex offenders registry in the county I am in now and found lots of these.

TX:***0004 AGG SEXUAL ASSAULT CHILD
Victim
Sex Victim Age GOC Time Disposition Date Discharge Status
FEMALE 5yr (time range 3yrs) 8Y 3/27/2006 NO PROBATION
Citation

Occupation Information
Date Employer Occupation
03/17/10 PIZZA HUT

And lots of other people employed at places around children.

There was even some people who were convicted of aggravates sexual assault (same as above) and their risk level was considered "low".
wtf?

Basically it gives the idea that you can aggravated sexual assault a child and will get off on probation. (a slap on the wrist basically is probation).

rhydra
13-08-2010, 12:01 AM
This is what happens when you get thick people whipped up into the latest media led frenzy.
Link. (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Paedophile+vigilantes+attack+the+wrong+man%3B+As+p hotographs+of+sex...-a0109634537)
AN innocent man's home was surrounded yesterday by a chanting, 300- strong stone-throwing mob who mistook him for a paedophile 'named and shamed' by a Sunday newspaper.

The vigilantes believed they were attacking 60-year-old Peter Smith, one of 49 sex offenders whose name, photograph and home area were published in the News of the World.

In fact their victim was 49-year-old Iain Armstrong who, like Smith, wears a neck brace.

At his home in Beswick, Manchester, Mr Armstrong said: 'Some women who live round the corner came round and stuck a paper in my face and asked if I was him. I said no but they said, "We think you are" and walked off. The next thing I knew there were about 300 people outside the house, six police cars and two police vans.

'The crowd were all shouting "paedophile". It was terrifying. I showed the police my driving licence and other documents and even went outside myself to try and explain.' Mr Armstrong's ex-wife, Melanie, 42, lives in an adjoining semi with the couple's eldest son Scott and her son Bradley, six, from a new relationship. The couple's younger sons, Brett, 15, and Grant, 13, live with their father.

Mrs Armstrong arrived back from visiting friends at 3pm to find the mob outside. She assured them that her ex-husband was not Smith, whose address was given by the newspaper as Warrington, some miles away. Although most of the crowd then left, police installed a panic button in Mr Armstrong's home in case trouble flared again.

Then, at 9pm last night, a brick crashed through his ex-wife's front window and hit her on the shoulder. Mr Armstrong said: 'I ran outside, but I could not see anyone. I pushed the button and the police arrived in about two minutes.

ms hope
13-08-2010, 12:36 AM
May be we should just leave it up to this little lot, after all they are corporate parents who work in the 'best interests of the child' and have done a wonderful job of keeping everything hidden :rolleyes:

A BIG thank you to Chris Wittwer - As promised - perverts paedophiles and sex offenders in the establishment !

Just some of the hundreds he has on his website.

Coming soon. lists of judges , lists of teachers and lists of police !


Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell - Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.
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Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys - Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

. Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker - Received a banning order for stalking women.

. Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor - Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.

. Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington - Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.

. Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy - Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

. Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan - Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

. Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer - Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.

. Tory Party councillor and former Mayor (Wrexham), Michael Morris - Convicted and put on probation for 2 years, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV.

. Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who’s job includes running the Tory GLA website - Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.

. Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn - Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

. Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner - Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

. Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green - Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He raped one woman on her wedding day.

. Labour Mayor (Todmordon) John Winstanley - Convicted and jailed for rape and threats to kill. After raping and threatening to kill his terrified victim, Winstanley then ordered the woman to go on all fours before urinating on her.

. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

. Labour’s current Parliamentary Candidate (Reading East) Tony Page - Has 2 Convictions for Acts of Gross Indecency` in public toilets.

. Labour Mayor (Burnley) Mark Swainston - Convicted of sex offences in public toilet.

. Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

. Labour Councillor (North Yorkshire) Raymond Coats - Court appearance for indecently assaulting a woman.

. Labour MP (Rhonda Valley) Chris Bryant poses in his pants on the Internet to advertise himself for casual gay sex encounters. Describes himself as “Horny as bu**ery” and says, “I’d love a good long f**k”.

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding - Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

. Labour MP Ron Davies was mugged by a Rasta on Clapham Common while cruising for gay sex. He was photographed again by the media recently, eng...aged in some `man-on-man` action in a field off a motorway. “I was only looking for badgers” he said.

. Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne - Arrested by Police following a sex attack.

. Labour MP, Joe Ashton - Caught up in a Police raid while frequenting a brothel. Tried to lie his way out of the scandal.

. Labour Councillor (Shropshire), Derek Woodvine - Arrested by Police in anti-porn operation.

. Labour Councillor (Basildon), Tony Wright - Forced to resign after being caught using his council computer to download porn.

. Labour MP (Sheffield), Clive Betts - Suspended from Parliament for 7 days after being caught forging immigration papers to extend the stay of his Brazilian rent-boy gay lover.

.Senior clerk Phillip Lyon, who arranges the weekly Prime Minister’s Question Time for Tony Blair, was arrested after vice cops raided his Commons office.Lyon, 37, is accused of making indecent images of children.

.Labour Councillor and Deputy Council Leader (Northumberland), John Whiteman, who was also a senior member of the local police authority – Convicted and fined in 2002 for soliciting a prostitute in the red light district of Middlesbrough. The court heard Whitman was arrested in his car as Police discovered him in a “state of undress” with a lady of the night he had just paid £35 for sex. He subsequently resigned from the council.

.Labour Councillor (Stoke/Staffordshire), Michael Barnes, put forward a motion in July 2004 to change the constitution of Stoke-on-Trent Council. The proposed amendments were designed to prevent the City’s two British National Party councillors from chairing any committees, so as to `protect` the good citizens of Stoke from the beastly BNP types they’d voted for in huge numbers to represent them. As Mr Barnes explained to the local paper, the move was “to prevent the BNP from exerting more influence”, and was “in the best interests of the people of Stoke-on-Trent”. A few months later, in November 2004, the civic-minded and virtuous Councillor Barnes appeared at North Staffordshire Magistrates Court, to face seven different charges relating to child pornography

.Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne – Arrested by Police following a sex attack

.Labour Councillor and former Mayor (Halton/Cheshire), Liam Temple - Convicted in 2004 of `Inciting a child under 16 to commit an act of gross indecency` after the 58-year old Labour pervert had attempted to molest a 12-year old girl. During the case, the brave youngster told the court via a video link: “He said if I let him touch me he would give me money”.

.Labour Councillor (Coxhoe/Durham), Les Sheppard – Convicted in 2004 on ten counts of indecent assault on young girls. Jailed for 2 years, and placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years. Teeside Crown Court heard how 71 year old Cllr Sheppard lured his victims into his gold Porsche before driving them to remote spots, where he would submit them to sickening sex attacks. After his arrest, the Labour nonce-case told police “I love women, but you do things which you regret”. Sheppard’s `women` victims were between 9 and 13 years old.

.According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend.

Yusef Azad – One of Ken Livingston’s overpaid left-wing cronies on the London Assembly gravy train – Resigned from his 60K-plus a year job `assisting` Assembly members, after being arrested on suspicion of downloading child porn in 2003.

Labour Councillor (Wokingham/Berkshire), Nelson Bland – Convicted on 16 counts of possession and distribution of hardcore child porn in 2004. Sentenced to community service, placed on the sex offender’s register and ordered to attend rehabi...litation classes for paedophiles. Bland used his own teenage daughters computer to hoard his grotesque gallery of child abuse, which was discovered by police during a search of Bland`s home, when they arrested him in connection with the murder of a Nottingham businessman

.Labour Councillor and Mayor-Elect (Merton/London), Sam Chaudry – Due to become Merton’s first Asian Mayor, before he was arrested, tried and convicted of multiple sex attacks on young girls in 1999. One of his victims was a 5-year old.

Labour Councillor (Halton/Leeds), Lee Benson – Convicted and awaiting sentence in 2005, after pleading guilty on 12 counts of possession of indecent images of children, featuring youngsters between the ages of 5 and 11. Benson, who has a child of his own, repaid the fools who voted for him by storing his revolting kiddie porn collection on the computer provided for him by the council. Benson has been `suspended` - not expelled - by the Labour Party, which means his name remains on the Labour Party membership list, as well as on the sex offenders register. As to which is the more shameful – take your pick!

.Labour Councillor (Bridgend/South Wales), Iestyn Tudor Davies – Convicted, jailed for 7 years, and placed on the sex offender’s register for life in 2005, for repeatedly raping a 9-year old girl

.Labour Councillor (Newham/London), Greg Vincent, who was the Election Agent to Labour MP Tony Banks at the 2001 General Election – Convicted and given a 2-year community rehabilitation order in 2003, for possession of hardcore kiddie porn films and photos, featuring children as young as 8. One of the photos the Labour Councillor found so entertaining, featured – as described in court – a girl aged around 10, naked except for a dog-collar, being assaulted and abused while her hands were tied behind her back around a beam. Vincent was also a School Governor

Prominent Edinburgh Labour party activist and election candidate, Rab Knox - Convicted and jailed for 3 years in 2005 for a horrific sex attack on a woman passenger in his taxi cab.

.Labour Party Official (North West England Regional Officer, and parliamentary adviser to the Home Office Minister responsible for crime and policing, Hazel Blears), Peter Tuffley – Convicted and jailed for 15 months and placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years in 2006, for the sexual molestation of a 13-year old boy that he had previously `groomed` on the internet. Tuffley was described as a `rising star` within the Labour Party - which is nothing to be proud of either

.Labour Councillor (Hornchurch/Essex), Alan Prescott, who was also a senior magistrate – Convicted and jailed for 2 years in 2001, for molesting children at the East London care home where he was the superintendent. Prescott, described in court as a “pillar of his local community” admitted carrying out sex attacks on four teenage boys as they slept in their beds

.Labour Parliamentary candidate (Cheadle/Cheshire), Paul Diggert – Subject of a 2002 police investigation into the alleged procurement of underage girls for sexual purposes via internet chatrooms. According to the `Sunday Mirror` (3/11/02), Diggert had admitted to having four underage girls that he was `grooming` for sex. In 2004 Diggert was convicted of making and distributing indecent pictures of children

.Labour Councillor (Dagenham/London), Terry Power – Forced to resign in 1999 after being arrested and charged with sex attacks on teenage boys. Details of trial and conviction to follow.

.Labour Councillor (Westlands/Worcestershire), Keith Rogers – Convicted, fined, and placed on the sex offender’s register in 2003, after downloading over 2,000 hardcore child porn photos on his computer

.Labour councillor Ex-Paston councillor Gilbert Benn (48) A former city councillor was a five-year jail sentence for molesting an 11-year-old boy and threatening the youngster’s mother in a bid to cover his tracks.

A LEADING councillor and former deputy mayor who tried to groom a 13-year-old for sex in an internet chatroom has been jailed for eight months. Shamed Morris Lightfoot, 56, a married dad-of-two, made vile suggestions to the girl named 'Tina,' pestered her to visit him so he could "abuse" her and sent her naked pictures of himself as he begged to take her virginity.

A former city councillor was last night beginning a five-year jail sentence for molesting an 11-year-old boy and threatening the youngster's mother in a bid to cover his tracks.Ex-Paston councillor Gilbert Benn (48) was locked up at Peterborough Crown Court yesterday having earlier been found guilty of twice attempting to rape the young boy in the city.The two attacks, which took place on a single night in the summer of 2006, were the culmination of a series of sexual assaults endured by the same victim over a period of 18 months.

former soldier and election candidate for the fascist British National Party in the Midlands has been jailed for 15 months after sending obscene images involving children to others. Roderick Rowley (51), previously from Coventry, was also ...ordered to register as a sex offender for ten years after admitting at Birmingham Crown Court 14 charges of making indecent photos, four of distributing them and one charge of possessing an image for distribution

A Medway councillor has been expelled from his party after being caught kerb crawling.
Cllr Nick Brice, 64, pictured, has been thrown out of the Medway Conservative party after being caught trying to pick up a prostitute in Rochester

A PAEDOPHILE councillor admitted a string of child pornography charges - two-and-a-half years after being arrested.David Charles, 60, from Cranham, pleaded guilty to 16 counts of possessing vile images of youngsters, Snaresbrook Crown Court heard.Charles, a councillor in the St Andrew's ward in Hornchurch, quit the Conservative Party following his arrest at home by officers from the Havering child abuse investigation team in June 2006. Since then he has been an independent councillor

TORY chiefs are demanding that a newly-elected councillor quit after he was exposed as a violent paedophile with a 41-year history of crimes.Pervert Robert Richdale got the backing of the local party faithful in leader Michael Howard’s own constituency despite having 30 convictions involving 65 offences and FIVE jail sentences.

A senior politician has been charged with indecently assaulting a boy.Mark McCarthy, 36, a member of Worthing Borough Council, will appear at Reading Crown Court on February 12 accused of two counts of indecent assault on a child under 14.The charges are said to related to incidents between February 27 2002 and December 31 2002

A Canterbury city councillor has been remanded in custody on serious sex charges against children.Conservative Martin Fisher, 60, is accused of indecent assault, sexual touching and making and possessing indecent images of children.The charges relate to two victims under the age of 16 and another aged over 18.

A FORMER Labour Party councillor who was the chairman of a board of primary school governors has appeared in court charged with child pornography offences.Keith Potts is accused of having 24 indecent pictures of youngsters on his home computer."We can confirm the chair of governors has resigned"

A former mayor escaped jail today after being convicted of possessing and distributing child pornography.Stewart Brown, 60, admitted 21 offences of possessing indecent images of children and one of distributing pictures.At Leeds Crown Court today he was given a nine-month prison sentence which was suspended for two years.In 2006 he was mayor of Hebden Royd in West Yorkshire and was also a Labour councillor on Calderdale Council, the court heard.At a hearing in July, Brown, of Nutclough, Hebden Bridge, admitted all the charges, some of which were said to relate to images of girls as young as three.

.David Kirton, 55.A 55-YEAR-OLD former Conservative councillor, who became "infatuated" with a 13-year-old girl and sexually assaulted her was jailed for eight years.David Kirton, 55, formerly of Longbanks, Harlow, Essex, later of Stevenage, also admitted committing two other sexual offences on the girl during an eight-month period.Kirton, who won his seat in the Staple Tye ward at the local elections in May last year but has since been suspended, sent texts and spoke to her on MSN telling her among other things: "Babe - you're a gorgeous woman."

A FORMER Worcester UKIP candidate –- who has since converted to Islam – has been sentenced for possessing indecent photographs of children.Jason Phillips, who stood in the city’s 2007 elections for the Arboretum ward, had previously admitted downloading two indecent images of a child.

A FORMER Conservative councillor has admitted downloading more than 1,700 indecent images of children.Ian McKellar, of Sandy Lane, West Kirby, pleaded guilty to eight offences of making indecent images before May 11, 2006.Liverpool crown court heard the images involved 1,639 images in the lowest category and the other 83 were in the next three more serious categories

former Tory politician has been jailed for six and a half years for five sex offences involving three girls, including one charge of rape.Stephen Mullins, 52, formerly of Links Avenue, Hellesdon, was sentenced at Norwich Crown Court today .The former head chef in the kitchen of the Bull pub in Reepham Road, Hellesdon had earlier admitted two offences of indecent assault against one girl under 14, rape involving the same girl, sexual assault on another girl aged 14 and assault on another young girl.Mullins was a member of Norwich North Conservative Association for about two years and a Hellesdon parish councillor for about the same time.

Paul Kidd, of Grasscroft Road, Stalybridge, has been accused of rape, indecent assault and sexual assault.Kidd, 54, stood for election as a UK Independent Party candidate in Dukinfield and Stalybridge in 2007 and received 283 votes - 9.7 per cent

A FORMER Mayor of Hebden Royd has been arrested on suspicion of child porn offences.
Stewart Brown, 59, was a Labour candidate for the Elland ward in next month's council elections.But he has now been suspended from the Labour Party.

A LABOUR councillor has been arrested on suspicion of downloading indecent images, the Daily Post can reveal.Cllr Ben Williams, 34, who represents the city’s Clubmoor ward was arrested yesterday by officers from the Sefton Family Crime Unit

A SUFFOLK county councillor's career has been left in tatters after he pleaded guilty to a sex assault and a string of child pornography offences - despite previously maintaining his innocence.Ben Redsell, 28, of Melton, near Woodbridge, admitted sexual assaulting a 19-year-old woman, seven counts of making indecent pictures of children and three counts of possessing indecent pictures of children

A young Tory has been jailed for six months after he admitted downloading sickening child porn.Alister Cooling, 27, who writes for the Conservative Home website and campaigned for London Mayor Boris Johnson, owned films featuring girls as y...oung as five being abused.The pervert, who hoped to be an MP and featured on the BBC reality TV show Castaway, also downloaded a bestiality filmSome of the films hit the highest level of the abuse scale used by police to grade child porn

A former mayor escaped jail today after being convicted of possessing and distributing child pornography.Stewart Brown, 60, admitted 21 offences of possessing indecent images of children and one of distributing pictures.At Leeds Crown Court today he was given a nine-month prison sentence which was suspended for two years.In 2006 he was mayor of Hebden Royd in West Yorkshire and was also a Labour councillor on Calderdale Council, the court heard

Labour Party Official (North West England Regional Officer and parliamentary adviser to the Home Office Minister responsible for crime and policing, Hazel Blears) Peter Tuffley was convicted and jailed for 15 months and placed on the Sex Offenders’ Register for 10 years in 2006 for the sexual molestation of a 13 year-old boy that he had previously ‘groomed’ on the internet. Tuffley was described as a “rising star” within the Labour Party.

A PERVERT who downloaded thousands of child porn pictures knocked on doors as a Lib Dem council candidate. Karl Lindon, 26, was jailed for three years after police found 2,500 indecent images of children on his computer. He shared the images with a ring of 47 online paedophiles

Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker received a banning order for stalking women.

Tory Party Council Leader (Portsmouth, Hampshire) Freddie Emery Wallis (pictured left) was charged with sexual assaults on 2 teenage boys in 2001. He was later jailed.

Tory Party MP (Eastleigh) Stephen Milligan was found dead in his flat in February 1994. Milligan was discovered tied to a chair, naked except for stockings and suspenders, with a plastic bag over his head and an orange stuffed into his mouth. He was believed to have accidentally asphyxiated whilst pleasuring himself during some kind of grotesque solo bondage and self-strangulation sex act

Tory Party Mayor (North Tyneside) Chris Morgan was forced to resign in 2003 after being arrested twice in 2 weeks for indecent assault on a 15-year-old girl and for suspicion of downloading child pornography

Tory Councillor (Newport, Wales) Dean Jenkins was convicted and jailed for 14 months in 2005 for the possession and distribution of thousands of pornographic images of young boys. Jenkins, caught as part of the Operation Ore child porn investigation, was also place on the Sex Offenders’ Register for 10 years and disqualified from working with children. After the case, computer crime investigator Gary Probert said: “In 35 years of working with Gwent Police, these are among the most horrendous images we have come across”.

Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, whose job includes running the Tory GLA website, was arrested in 2004 for allegedly downloading child pornography.

Former Tory Party councillor (Bradford, Yorkshire) Jim Merrick received a 9-month jail sentence (suspended) and placed on the SexOffenders’ Register for 10 years in 2001 after being convicted of multiple sex attacks on little girls between the ages of 9 and 12. The 69-year-old Tory nonce had lured as many as 13 youngsters (although convicted on only 2 of them) into his home before giving them various treats and plying them with alcohol. The court heard that Merrick would then get the girls to shower in front of him so that he could ‘inspect’ them.

Tory Party Official (Secretary of Hackney and South Shoreditch Conservative Association) Stephen Mertens was convicted and jailed for 10 years for repeatedly raping a six-year-old

Tory Party Cabinet Minister Sir Ian Horobin MP was convicted and jailed for 4 years for indecency in 1952 after paying young boys for sex

Tory Party Councillor (Blandford, North Dorset) Mike Oram was convicted on child pornography charges in... 2004. Although he eventually resigned, the Conservative Party were (according to Oram himself) apparently reluctant to sack him and be forced to call a losable by-election for North Dorset District Council, where the Tories have a wafer-thin majority

Tory Councillor (Tendring, Essex) Michael Robinson was convicted on 7 counts of indecent assault against 4 different women in 1999

Tory Councillor (Felixstowe, Suffolk) David Smith accepted a police caution for downloading child pornography in 2004. Placed on the Sex Offenders’ Register for 5 years.

Tory Party MEP (Surrey) Tom Spencer was caught smuggling marijuana, cocaine, and homosexual pornography through customs following a trip to Amsterdam in 2003.

Former Tory Councillor (Doncaster, Yorkshire) Louise Burrows was convicted of assaulting 3 young children (2 boys and a girl) with a whip in 2002. Sentenced to a 6-month community rehabilitation order and ordered to pay compensation to her victims. After the case, Borrows applied to join Doncaster Labour Party

Tory Party Councillor (Dean, Scotland) Tom Ponton (who later defected to the Lib-Dems) was convicted in 2003 for selling alcohol to children

Tory Party minister (RAF) and former MP (Berwick-upon-Teed) Lord Lambton resigned in disgrace in 1973 after being convicted and fined on drugs offences. The Tory Lord had been photographed in bed, smoking cannabis with two prostitutes

Earl Jellicoe, who was the Lord Privy Seal and Tory Leader in the House of Lords, resigned after admitting to using prostitutes.

A WORTHING councillor has been charged with indecently assaulting a boy under the age of 14. Mark McCarthy, 36, of Offington Drive, has been charged with two counts of indecent assault on a boy aged under 14 between February 27, 2002, and December 31, 2002

(2008) A leading Tory councillor has been arrested on suspicion of possessing child pornography.Divorced father-of-three Ken Bartram, 63, a church organist, had his flat raided by Scotland Yard.It is believed a stash of more than 50 DVDs and a mobile phone containing various images were seized

Two married Conservative councillors have been suspended amid allegations they have been hosting group sex sessions at their Wolverhampton home. To their neighbours, David and Carol Bourne are pillars of the community. Both represent Wednesfield North and have been heralded as leading lights in the campaign to triumph in the next general election. Their future is uncertain after being suspended, amid allegations they have been inviting people to their Merry Hill home to take part in sex acts. Reports have claimed that the pair have been charging people up to £150 to take part in lewd activities behind the curtains of their immaculate end-of-terrace house in Telford Gardens

2008) A Tory councillor was last night behind bars after being charged with raping and sexually abusing a girl of 13. Married step-dad David Kirton, 55, was remanded in custody by magistrates after being arrested at the weekend following complaints from the alleged victim. Police confirmed: “A 55-year-old man has been remanded in custody prior to appearance at crown court. “He was charged with offences under the Sexual Offences Act, including rape and sexual assault.”

A FORMER Newton Abbot mayor has been arrested by police investigating an allegation he sexually assaulted a man. Town councillor Allan Vizor, 63, of Newcross Park, Kingsteignton, has been questioned by police after a complaint was made to officers. He was formally arrested under a section of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 after attending Torquay police station on the morning of Wednesday last week.

A SUFFOLK county councillor’s career has been left in tatters after he pleaded guilty to a sex assault and a string of child pornography offences – despite previously maintaining his innocence. Ben Redsell, 28, of Melton, near Woodbridge, admitted sexual assaulting a 19-year-old woman, seven counts of making indecent pictures of children and three counts of possessing indecent pictures of children.

A FORMER Conservative councillor has admitted downloading more than 1,700 indecent images of children. Ian McKellar, of Sandy Lane, West Kirby, pleaded guilty to eight offences of making indecent images before May 11, 2006. Liverpool crown court heard the images involved 1,639 images in the lowest category and the other 83 were in the next three more serious categories.

2008) A councillor has resigned after being arrested and cautioned by police for a “sexual offence”. Liberal Democrat Eric Griffiths, 64, has stood down less than a month after he was re-elected to Ceredigion council on 1 May. Dyfed-Powys Police said a 64-year-old man was arrested and cautioned for a sexual offence

Lib-Dem Councillor (Craven and Bentham, Yorkshire) John Pilkington was arrested in 2004 in connection with the Operation Ore investigation into Internet child pornography. Jailed for 21 months –an affront to the victims of this monster

Lib-D...em Council candidate (Tower Hamlets, London) Justin Sillman was convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys

Liberal Democract activist Archibald Wood was exposed as a member of a child abuse ring in which young victims were offered for sex on the Internet. He and others subjected two 12-year-olds to an afternoon of abuse which left the youngsters devastated

2006) A former Derby City Council leader has been given a nine-month prison sentence suspended for a year for indecently assaulting a seven-year-old boy. Maurice Burgess, 58, pleaded guilty at Nottingham Crown Court to assaulting the boy 23 years ago. The court heard the former Liberal Democrat councillor had a similar conviction dating back to 1971. He was leader of the council from 2003 until July 2005 and an Abbey ward councillor until May 2006

A former leader of Swansea Council has been banned from becoming a councillor for two-and-a-half years after indecent images were found on his computers. Lawrence Bailey, 52, was found to have breached codes of conduct by the Adjudication Panel for Wales. It also found he had broken rules by writing to a local newspaper using false names. At least 70,000 “graphic” images were found on one computer.

TWO paedophiles jailed for sex attacks on schoolgirls last week are named on the leaked list of British National Party members, we can reveal.
Perverts Ian Richard Hindle, 32, and Andrew Paul Wells, 49, plied two 14-year-olds with alcohol before subjecting them to sickening abuse.
Both men appear on a 12,000 strong BNP membership roll, alongside police officers, soldiers, doctors, prison officers—and even vicars

A former Huntington councillor has been jailed for over four years for a string of child sex offences.Dennis Wakeman was handed the sentence at Stafford Crown Court after admitting seven charges of indecent assault on a female and one charge of gross indecency with a child. The pensioner had originally denied the charges, but changed his plea

High society paedophile linked with high profile tory mps.Roger Took was sentenced this February 2008 to a minimum of four and a half years in prison as part of an indeterminate sentence for 17 other crimes relating to child abuse. They included molesting two of his step-granddaughters and the possession of 260 photographs, including 102 ‘Level 5s’, which mean they contain images of children being tortured or penetrated, including by animals. One photograph showed a penis entering the vagina of a baby. Many images showed small children shackled to chairs or bars, in obvious pain. The police recovered these images from Took’s laptop. There were, apparently, thousands more on his main computer but the hard drive had broken and police experts were unable to retrieve them. When police raided Took’s home, they found a locked case containing a large bundle of photographs of naked young Russian women, believed to be prostitutes, one having sex with Took, and clippings of children’s hair

A COUNCILLOR who specialises in child care is facing calls for his resignation after he gave a character reference to a paedophile.Coun Salim Mulla spoke up for a sex offender of the same name before he was jailed for three years for sexual assault and inciting a child under the age of 13 to engage in sexual activities.The 42-year-old defendant, of Ripon Street, Audley, Blackburn, led a secret life as a sexual predator, tricking girls as young as 12 into answering sordid questions over the telephone

A FORMER Independent councillor had almost 900 pornographic pictures of children on his laptop, a court has heard.Mabon Dane, 36, a former member of Haverhill Town Council, appeared at Ipswich Crown Court yesterday (Monday, 19 June) at the start of his trial for 16 charges of making indecent images of children and one of possessing indecent images of children

A TORY councillor and school governor has quit both posts in shame after admitting downloading internet child porn. David Smith, 39, denied ten specimen charges of making indecent photographs of children when arrested. But this week he admitted the offences and accepted a formal police caution just days before he was due to appear before magistrates.His name was given to cops after the FBI found his credit card was used to subscribe to a US child porn website

TOP Tory councillor has been urged to quit after appearing in court on child pornography related charges.Mike Oram, 61, of Hobgoblin, Iwerne Minster, admitted two offences when he appeared at Bournemouth Magistrates Court on April 7.Although he quit his cabinet post on North Dorset District Council the previous evening, he has not stepped down as a councillor.Oram, who has represented Blandford East since 1999, admitted one charge of making an indecent photograph of a child and another of inciting the distribution of pseudo-photographs of children under the age of 16.

A former district councillor downloaded more than 600 indecent images of children from websites with names such as "child rape" and "spanking schoolgirls", a court heard. Former South Oxfordshire district councillor for Watlington Tim Horton is accused of using a council laptop and telephone line to access child pornography via the Internet. At the first day of his trial yesterday at Oxford Crown Court, a jury was told how council chief executive David Buckle became suspicious after discovering Horton had run up a £500 telephone bill using the laptop. at least 619 pictures on Horton's laptop and home computer showing children having sex with adults or performing sexual acts.

The former chairman of a Lincolnshire parish council who downloaded and distributed child pornography has been jailed for three months. Christopher Duckworth, 64, of Bingham Court, Long Sutton, admitted five charges of distributing indecent images of children, at Lincoln Crown Court. He also admitted making an indecent image of a child and two charges of possessing indecent images of children

Labour Councillor (North Yorkshire) Raymond Coats - Court appearance for indecently assaulting a woman

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding - Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12

2008 A Canterbury city councillor has appeared in court charged with sex offences on children.

Martin Fisher, 60, was been remanded in custody after an appearance at Dover Magistrates Court on Saturday He was arrested on Thursday morning at... his home in Queens Road, Whitstable, and charged with indecent assault, sexual touching and making and possessing indecent images of children.

Cllr Fisher is the Conservative representative for the Tankerton ward.

jiffy
13-08-2010, 11:09 AM
How about the masses stop worrying about who lives next door and take time to see what their children are up to.

How about sitting down at a dinner table every night and "TALK"

How about throwing the god damn TV out the window, let alone allow one in their children's bedroom.

How about no letting your 12,13 year old daughter wear a Thong!

How about stop dressing your teenage daughter in bunny girl t-shirts

How about putting filters on your internet connection.

How about installing confidence, to allow your children to know that it "GOOD" to be an individual and embrace being "DIFFERENT"

How about we teach our children what is important in life...Love...Nature...Fellow humanity.

How about introducing the Arts to your children.

How about fuelling the passion that EVERYONE has for arts ....be it drawing, dance, music, poetry, sculpture, painting, to name but a few.

Be the change you wish for;)

shocker
13-08-2010, 11:19 AM
How about the masses stop worrying about who lives next door and take time to see what their children are up to.

How about sitting down at a dinner table every night and "TALK"

How about throwing the god damn TV out the window, let alone allow one in their children's bedroom.

How about no letting your 12,13 year old daughter wear a Thong!

How about stop dressing your teenage daughter in bunny girl t-shirts

How about putting filters on your internet connection.

How about installing confidence, to allow your children to know that it "GOOD" to be an individual and embrace being "DIFFERENT"

How about we teach our children what is important in life...Love...Nature...Fellow humanity.

How about introducing the Arts to your children.

How about fuelling the passion that EVERYONE has for arts ....be it drawing, dance, music, poetry, sculpture, painting, to name but a few.

Be the change you wish for;)

I love you for writing that :)

jiffy
13-08-2010, 11:22 AM
I love you for writing that :)

Hey I Love you for being you;)

torchlight
13-08-2010, 12:13 PM
This list just proves that the main parties are crawling with pedos and other sex offenders. They should be in jail, not running the country.

buttonnose
13-08-2010, 01:29 PM
How about the masses stop worrying about who lives next door and take time to see what their children are up to.

How about sitting down at a dinner table every night and "TALK"

How about throwing the god damn TV out the window, let alone allow one in their children's bedroom.

How about no letting your 12,13 year old daughter wear a Thong!

How about stop dressing your teenage daughter in bunny girl t-shirts

How about putting filters on your internet connection.

How about installing confidence, to allow your children to know that it "GOOD" to be an individual and embrace being "DIFFERENT"

How about we teach our children what is important in life...Love...Nature...Fellow humanity.

How about introducing the Arts to your children.

How about fuelling the passion that EVERYONE has for arts ....be it drawing, dance, music, poetry, sculpture, painting, to name but a few.

Be the change you wish for;)

This^

Seriously, the next time I see a parent walking around with a girl of 8, 9 11 whatever, who is wearing some of those "short shorts" with paw prints or cheeky words like "sassy" or "princess" splashed across the butt, I think I'm going to vomit in my lap.

There is no excuse for pedophilia...but then, there is also no defense for parents going with the flow when it comes to our cultural shift toward the overt and massive pre-pubescent "sexualization" of our youth. I see girls in the super markets all the time, with their normal looking, middle class parents...wearing street walkers clothing. YOUNG girls. I believe that the sexualizing girls as young as we do in this world is just as much a molestation as the more accute attacks suffered when a girl is molested by a pedo.

Furthermore, and to the point of the article, I would say....I hate the sex offender registry. I wish we'd do away with it completely. Two reasons:

1. If you are dangerous enough that I need to know where you live so I can "keep an eye out" for you and "keep you away from my kids" - then your sorry, defective ass needs to be in jail. Knowing where a perpetrator lives does jack shit to keep our kids safe. What, the only kids who are in danger of being molested by a pedophile are the kids who live on his block? Bullshit. These people get in their cars and drive...they can go wherever they want to look at, attack, or do whatever else to children.

2. The sad fact of the matter is, the sex offender system is severely broken when it comes to the types of people who have to register for life. If you urinate in a public place and are caught, it's called "indecent exposure" - and you have to register for life on the registry. As gross as it is to pee in public (ew, seriously) - I think it makes a mockery of the dead seriousness of the problem with pedophiles and other serious sex offenders to have drunk guys and bums who pee in public on the same list as child rapists and the like.

I would further that point, by telling you of a man I know:

When Peter was in college, he got good grades, visited his parents often and loved, like most college kids, to party and have fun with his friends. One night, toward the end of his freshman year, he and some friends met some girls they knew at a party and decided to all go back to the guys dorm together. The girls were girls they had partied with before and some of the guys had even been romantically involved with a couple of the girls. As the night went on and "drunken hook-ups" ensued...guess who Peter ended up jumping in the sack with? The ONE girl there who was not actually a college student. Let's say her name was Ann.

Ann was 15 and liked to come up to the college on the weekends sometimes and stay with her freshmen friends whom she knew from her home town. Her friends never told anyone she was only fifteen and so everyone assumed she was attending college there and that she was the same age. Peter had absolutely no idea Ann wasn't a college student, over the age 18 and no reason to ask. That night, Ann and Peter did all sorts of things...Ann was not shy and she and Peter had all kinds of sex, anal, etc...

Ann made the mistake of telling the group of girls about her wild night with Peter the next day and within a very few short days, word had circulated back in her small home town, her sister found and out and then her parents. Her father got details about the night that broke his heart..he was CERTAIN that his darling girl could not have actually wanted those things and that it was the booze and the influence of the older boy that made her consent to those "horrid" acts.

It didn't matter to the prosecutor that Peter had NO idea that Ann was not a college student, that he had seen her drinking and carrying on multiple times before with all of the other girls. That she wanted the sex just as much as he had, none of it mattered. It didn't even matter that Ann insisted over and over again that she initiated things with Peter, that he hadn't given her the alcohol she had consumed, none of it mattered. The "law" in this area was very clear, it was a sex offence because Peter was 19 and Ann was under 16.

Peter was charged (I'm paraphrasing) with lewd conduct, corruption of a minor and because the sex they had was pretty you know, rough and kinky type stuff, he was also charged with assaulting a minor under 16 and a few other things that sound really, really bad. He was kicked out of school and ordered to go, every year, to the town governent offices on his birthday and register as a sex offender.

This is a normal, small town, kid. Never been in trouble, always nice and polite, good citizenship awards in school, etc. Just a normal kid.

Well, now Peter is in his mid 30's...he has a wife (who is a crusader again the sex registry) and two daughters of his own. He is not allowed to go to any of his childrens soccar matches or school functions. His name and face is on the sex offender registry websites, so when some concerned parent in the town goes to see what "creepy crawlies" are lurking in the area, they go to the registry and see his face...and it doesn't explain what actually happened, when you skim it, all you really see is "aggrivated this and that" "sodomized that and this" "girl" and "under 16". It looks terrible. If you really, really read it, it states the year of the offenses and if you look at his DOB and do the math, you can see that he was 19 at the time, but even then, you figure...well, he must have attacked the girl or something if he's on the registry...even though that's not the case.

Peter's daughters can't even have friends stay the night without telling the parents that he is a "sex offender" and "here's why...." - this has had a severe impact on his ability to raise his kids the way he'd like to and an even bigger effect on his ability to do business (he is a carpenter) the way he'd like. He can't do work for someone in their home without disclosing his past. It's terrible.


People like Peter are far far far more prevalent than you would think on the US sex offender registry. Far too many young men who have sex with VERY willing girls who are a year or two below the cut off end up on the registry after "daddy's little girl" gets busted for having sex and the boy ends up nailed to the wall and labeled a "criminal threat" for the rest of his life.

Public urinaters, college boys who have sex with willing girls who are2-3 years younger than them, etc....should not be put on the same list with child rapists....and the only list that child rapists should be on, is a roster for cell block "whatever".

If you are an actual rapist, child molester, or any other kind of sexual predator, you should not get a second chance. It should not be hard not to rape children...if you rape children there is something wrong with you and you should not ever be free again.

Period.

oneup
13-08-2010, 02:50 PM
After 1816, use of the pillory was restricted in England to punishment for perjury or subornation.[2] The pillory was formally abolished as a form of punishment in England and Wales in 1837, but the stocks remained in use, albeit extremely infrequently, until 1872.[4]

:rolleyes:

Medieval practices.

copland
13-08-2010, 03:48 PM
Where's the site?

ms hope
13-08-2010, 08:47 PM
My sympathy lays with the children who have been brutally abused, raped tortured and murdered in some cases, not with the perpetrators many of whom are in a position of power over the lives of these children and have easy access.

How about some sympathy for them and their families :(

torchlight
13-08-2010, 09:12 PM
This^

Seriously, the next time I see a parent walking around with a girl of 8, 9 11 whatever, who is wearing some of those "short shorts" with paw prints or cheeky words like "sassy" or "princess" splashed across the butt, I think I'm going to vomit in my lap.

There is no excuse for pedophilia...but then, there is also no defense for parents going with the flow when it comes to our cultural shift toward the overt and massive pre-pubescent "sexualization" of our youth. I see girls in the super markets all the time, with their normal looking, middle class parents...wearing street walkers clothing. YOUNG girls. I believe that the sexualizing girls as young as we do in this world is just as much a molestation as the more accute attacks suffered when a girl is molested by a pedo.

Furthermore, and to the point of the article, I would say....I hate the sex offender registry. I wish we'd do away with it completely. Two reasons:

1. If you are dangerous enough that I need to know where you live so I can "keep an eye out" for you and "keep you away from my kids" - then your sorry, defective ass needs to be in jail. Knowing where a perpetrator lives does jack shit to keep our kids safe. What, the only kids who are in danger of being molested by a pedophile are the kids who live on his block? Bullshit. These people get in their cars and drive...they can go wherever they want to look at, attack, or do whatever else to children.

2. The sad fact of the matter is, the sex offender system is severely broken when it comes to the types of people who have to register for life. If you urinate in a public place and are caught, it's called "indecent exposure" - and you have to register for life on the registry. As gross as it is to pee in public (ew, seriously) - I think it makes a mockery of the dead seriousness of the problem with pedophiles and other serious sex offenders to have drunk guys and bums who pee in public on the same list as child rapists and the like.

I would further that point, by telling you of a man I know:

When Peter was in college, he got good grades, visited his parents often and loved, like most college kids, to party and have fun with his friends. One night, toward the end of his freshman year, he and some friends met some girls they knew at a party and decided to all go back to the guys dorm together. The girls were girls they had partied with before and some of the guys had even been romantically involved with a couple of the girls. As the night went on and "drunken hook-ups" ensued...guess who Peter ended up jumping in the sack with? The ONE girl there who was not actually a college student. Let's say her name was Ann.

Ann was 15 and liked to come up to the college on the weekends sometimes and stay with her freshmen friends whom she knew from her home town. Her friends never told anyone she was only fifteen and so everyone assumed she was attending college there and that she was the same age. Peter had absolutely no idea Ann wasn't a college student, over the age 18 and no reason to ask. That night, Ann and Peter did all sorts of things...Ann was not shy and she and Peter had all kinds of sex, anal, etc...

Ann made the mistake of telling the group of girls about her wild night with Peter the next day and within a very few short days, word had circulated back in her small home town, her sister found and out and then her parents. Her father got details about the night that broke his heart..he was CERTAIN that his darling girl could not have actually wanted those things and that it was the booze and the influence of the older boy that made her consent to those "horrid" acts.

It didn't matter to the prosecutor that Peter had NO idea that Ann was not a college student, that he had seen her drinking and carrying on multiple times before with all of the other girls. That she wanted the sex just as much as he had, none of it mattered. It didn't even matter that Ann insisted over and over again that she initiated things with Peter, that he hadn't given her the alcohol she had consumed, none of it mattered. The "law" in this area was very clear, it was a sex offence because Peter was 19 and Ann was under 16.

Peter was charged (I'm paraphrasing) with lewd conduct, corruption of a minor and because the sex they had was pretty you know, rough and kinky type stuff, he was also charged with assaulting a minor under 16 and a few other things that sound really, really bad. He was kicked out of school and ordered to go, every year, to the town governent offices on his birthday and register as a sex offender.

This is a normal, small town, kid. Never been in trouble, always nice and polite, good citizenship awards in school, etc. Just a normal kid.

Well, now Peter is in his mid 30's...he has a wife (who is a crusader again the sex registry) and two daughters of his own. He is not allowed to go to any of his childrens soccar matches or school functions. His name and face is on the sex offender registry websites, so when some concerned parent in the town goes to see what "creepy crawlies" are lurking in the area, they go to the registry and see his face...and it doesn't explain what actually happened, when you skim it, all you really see is "aggrivated this and that" "sodomized that and this" "girl" and "under 16". It looks terrible. If you really, really read it, it states the year of the offenses and if you look at his DOB and do the math, you can see that he was 19 at the time, but even then, you figure...well, he must have attacked the girl or something if he's on the registry...even though that's not the case.

Peter's daughters can't even have friends stay the night without telling the parents that he is a "sex offender" and "here's why...." - this has had a severe impact on his ability to raise his kids the way he'd like to and an even bigger effect on his ability to do business (he is a carpenter) the way he'd like. He can't do work for someone in their home without disclosing his past. It's terrible.


People like Peter are far far far more prevalent than you would think on the US sex offender registry. Far too many young men who have sex with VERY willing girls who are a year or two below the cut off end up on the registry after "daddy's little girl" gets busted for having sex and the boy ends up nailed to the wall and labeled a "criminal threat" for the rest of his life.

Public urinaters, college boys who have sex with willing girls who are2-3 years younger than them, etc....should not be put on the same list with child rapists....and the only list that child rapists should be on, is a roster for cell block "whatever".

If you are an actual rapist, child molester, or any other kind of sexual predator, you should not get a second chance. It should not be hard not to rape children...if you rape children there is something wrong with you and you should not ever be free again.

Period.

I think that cases like this can easily be prevented by the law using a little common sense. A 19 year old who has sex with a 15 year old is not a pedophile, a pedophile is defined as anyone over the age of 16 who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. A 15 year old is definitely not prepubescent, and many of them do look older than their actual age, when I was 15 I had no problem getting served with lager in pubs!

I think that the sex-offenders register should only used for people who are rapists or child molesters. NOT for people who broke the law unknowingly with a 15 year old who looks and acts much more mature, and is getting her own drinks from the bar. The worst your friend should have got is a caution or fine. The reality is, she should not really have been there in the first place. As for people going on the register for peeing in public, that's just ridiculous, might not be a nice thing to do, but it's hardly the same as raping or molesting somebody. People need some perspective here, and unfortunately the law does not reflect that.

You do have a point though that anyone dangerous enough that the public needs to be warned about them perhaps should not be out on the loose. Pedophilia at present cannot be cured, and a lot of them do end up molesting children, or at the least downloading child porn (and for that to exist, children are abused).

pienmashfilms
13-08-2010, 09:20 PM
Chris Wittwer is a champion for vulnerable children and concerned parents. Surprised to see so much naivety on this site!
When you're a survivor of abuse at the hands of leaders in authority you acquire the ability to see beyond their masks of respectability. Child sex offenders damage the structure of society, those who are high profile have the power and means to pervert the course of justice.

Let us pray that your children never have to experience the torture of being violated or raped by a 'friendly' local when you could have protected them by supporting a simple and effective register such as this. Our allegiance is with the children, not the perpetrators that ruin lives.

See the opening speech at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 in Trafalgar Square: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxsUrTWJ93c

buttonnose
13-08-2010, 09:35 PM
I think that cases like this can easily be prevented by the law using a little common sense. A 19 year old who has sex with a 15 year old is not a pedophile, a pedophile is defined as anyone over the age of 16 who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. A 15 year old is definitely not prepubescent, and many of them do look older than their actual age, when I was 15 I had no problem getting served with lager in pubs!

I think that the sex-offenders register should only used for people who are rapists or child molesters. NOT for people who broke the law unknowingly with a 15 year old who looks and acts much more mature, and is getting her own drinks from the bar. The worst your friend should have got is a caution or fine. The reality is, she should not really have been there in the first place. As for people going on the register for peeing in public, that's just ridiculous, might not be a nice thing to do, but it's hardly the same as raping or molesting somebody. People need some perspective here, and unfortunately the law does not reflect that.

You do have a point though that anyone dangerous enough that the public needs to be warned about them perhaps should not be out on the loose. Pedophilia at present cannot be cured, and a lot of them do end up molesting children, or at the least downloading child porn (and for that to exist, children are abused).

I think this is what we need to focus on. The fact is, just about every day either on the news or in a newspaper you can find a story about a repeat offender going back to jail for sex crime of some sort...there should be no such thing as a repeat offender.

I understand that there are "gray zones" in sex offense cases sometimes. If it's a case of "He said She dais - he says she said "yes", she says "I was too drunk to say consent" - or whatever else..then I get a judge giving a second chance. But straight up child molesting? Outright rape?

How do you let someone free who is capable of standing in a dark alleyway, waiting for a woman to happen along jogging or whatever, grabbing her and raping her? Or someone who rapes a child? We had someone around my way a number of years back who raped a 3 year old. Physically damaged the poor child so badly, that she required surgery and will never be able to have children. Spiritually and emotionally damaged the girl in ways we could never guess. The judge sentenced this man (who knew the girl) to 8 years in jail. The guy got out of jail after 5 years. That sucks. That's stupid. The people around here were outraged. Law Enforcement said "he'll have to register and you'll know where he lives" - yeah, I should know where he lives, EXACTLY where he lives...because he should be in freakin' prison.

The people we REALLY need on a registry, are the people who shouldn't be out of jail. If you could rape a 3 year old, or molest a 12 year old or whatever...even ambush and rape a grown woman...those are completely avoidable crimes and if you can commit them you should not be walking around in public.

Some people are very quick to say "well, but these people suffer an illness!" - and I'm almost completely sure that's true. But I find myself to be unbending when it comes to that issue. I don't feel so strongly about many many forms of crime...but violent sex crimes, particularly against children...it just makes me crazy.

buttonnose
13-08-2010, 09:39 PM
Chris Wittwer is a champion for vulnerable children and concerned parents. Surprised to see so much naivety on this site!
When you're a survivor of abuse at the hands of leaders in authority you acquire the ability to see beyond their masks of respectability. Child sex offenders damage the structure of society, those who are high profile have the power and means to pervert the course of justice.

Let us pray that your children never have to experience the torture of being violated or raped by a 'friendly' local when you could have protected them by supporting a simple and effective register such as this. Our allegiance is with the children, not the perpetrators that ruin lives.

See the opening speech at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 in Trafalgar Square: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxsUrTWJ93c

I understand that the registry is a better alternative while we still have court systems turning blind eyes and/or handing out laughable sentences for such awful crimes...I'm just saying, I hope that someday soooooon, we don't have a need for registries because people who are an actual dangers to society and children will be removed from society on a permanent basis.

I support what this man is trying to do, because I see the immediate need he is trying to fulfill...I just wish we didn't need the damn list.

ronisron
13-08-2010, 09:44 PM
I like the list, the info is good, but the vigilante aspect of it could spiral out of control, especially like in the previous post where it was a mistaken identity. That's a tragedy waiting to happen. Folks should use the info to make better choices concerning their own children.

ignoranto_bliss
14-08-2010, 03:49 AM
:eek: it is sick ....

I cant see how rape is possible without beating the victim ... or at the gun point , but then what kind of gun and so on ...

Its sick madness ... cause its hard to catch real pedo its easier to earn living cheking ages of teenage couples in the park so to speak .

hister67
14-08-2010, 04:25 AM
This list just proves that the main parties are crawling with pedos and other sex offenders. They should be in jail, not running the country.

You mean ruining the country:D

geezer661
14-08-2010, 11:32 AM
Just a question. Is the guy who sets up this site going to pay to hunt all these paedos down when they disappear? Or is it going to be the tax payer?

pienmashfilms
14-08-2010, 11:43 AM
Just a question. Is the guy who sets up this site going to pay to hunt all these paedos down when they disappear? Or is it going to be the tax payer?

That's the whole point, they already 'disappear' this is why a register such as this would be effective. Rather taxes go towards locating the perpetrators than paying for MPs inflated expenses and for holding the judicial system to account when the abusers are freed again and again.

damp
14-08-2010, 10:46 PM
This^

Seriously, the next time I see a parent walking around with a girl of 8, 9 11 whatever, who is wearing some of those "short shorts" with paw prints or cheeky words like "sassy" or "princess" splashed across the butt, I think I'm going to vomit in my lap.

There is no excuse for pedophilia...but then, there is also no defense for parents going with the flow when it comes to our cultural shift toward the overt and massive pre-pubescent "sexualization" of our youth. I see girls in the super markets all the time, with their normal looking, middle class parents...wearing street walkers clothing. YOUNG girls. I believe that the sexualizing girls as young as we do in this world is just as much a molestation as the more accute attacks suffered when a girl is molested by a pedo.

Furthermore, and to the point of the article, I would say....I hate the sex offender registry. I wish we'd do away with it completely. Two reasons:

1. If you are dangerous enough that I need to know where you live so I can "keep an eye out" for you and "keep you away from my kids" - then your sorry, defective ass needs to be in jail. Knowing where a perpetrator lives does jack shit to keep our kids safe. What, the only kids who are in danger of being molested by a pedophile are the kids who live on his block? Bullshit. These people get in their cars and drive...they can go wherever they want to look at, attack, or do whatever else to children.

2. The sad fact of the matter is, the sex offender system is severely broken when it comes to the types of people who have to register for life. If you urinate in a public place and are caught, it's called "indecent exposure" - and you have to register for life on the registry. As gross as it is to pee in public (ew, seriously) - I think it makes a mockery of the dead seriousness of the problem with pedophiles and other serious sex offenders to have drunk guys and bums who pee in public on the same list as child rapists and the like.

I would further that point, by telling you of a man I know:

When Peter was in college, he got good grades, visited his parents often and loved, like most college kids, to party and have fun with his friends. One night, toward the end of his freshman year, he and some friends met some girls they knew at a party and decided to all go back to the guys dorm together. The girls were girls they had partied with before and some of the guys had even been romantically involved with a couple of the girls. As the night went on and "drunken hook-ups" ensued...guess who Peter ended up jumping in the sack with? The ONE girl there who was not actually a college student. Let's say her name was Ann.

Ann was 15 and liked to come up to the college on the weekends sometimes and stay with her freshmen friends whom she knew from her home town. Her friends never told anyone she was only fifteen and so everyone assumed she was attending college there and that she was the same age. Peter had absolutely no idea Ann wasn't a college student, over the age 18 and no reason to ask. That night, Ann and Peter did all sorts of things...Ann was not shy and she and Peter had all kinds of sex, anal, etc...

Ann made the mistake of telling the group of girls about her wild night with Peter the next day and within a very few short days, word had circulated back in her small home town, her sister found and out and then her parents. Her father got details about the night that broke his heart..he was CERTAIN that his darling girl could not have actually wanted those things and that it was the booze and the influence of the older boy that made her consent to those "horrid" acts.

It didn't matter to the prosecutor that Peter had NO idea that Ann was not a college student, that he had seen her drinking and carrying on multiple times before with all of the other girls. That she wanted the sex just as much as he had, none of it mattered. It didn't even matter that Ann insisted over and over again that she initiated things with Peter, that he hadn't given her the alcohol she had consumed, none of it mattered. The "law" in this area was very clear, it was a sex offence because Peter was 19 and Ann was under 16.

Peter was charged (I'm paraphrasing) with lewd conduct, corruption of a minor and because the sex they had was pretty you know, rough and kinky type stuff, he was also charged with assaulting a minor under 16 and a few other things that sound really, really bad. He was kicked out of school and ordered to go, every year, to the town governent offices on his birthday and register as a sex offender.

This is a normal, small town, kid. Never been in trouble, always nice and polite, good citizenship awards in school, etc. Just a normal kid.

Well, now Peter is in his mid 30's...he has a wife (who is a crusader again the sex registry) and two daughters of his own. He is not allowed to go to any of his childrens soccar matches or school functions. His name and face is on the sex offender registry websites, so when some concerned parent in the town goes to see what "creepy crawlies" are lurking in the area, they go to the registry and see his face...and it doesn't explain what actually happened, when you skim it, all you really see is "aggrivated this and that" "sodomized that and this" "girl" and "under 16". It looks terrible. If you really, really read it, it states the year of the offenses and if you look at his DOB and do the math, you can see that he was 19 at the time, but even then, you figure...well, he must have attacked the girl or something if he's on the registry...even though that's not the case.

Peter's daughters can't even have friends stay the night without telling the parents that he is a "sex offender" and "here's why...." - this has had a severe impact on his ability to raise his kids the way he'd like to and an even bigger effect on his ability to do business (he is a carpenter) the way he'd like. He can't do work for someone in their home without disclosing his past. It's terrible.


People like Peter are far far far more prevalent than you would think on the US sex offender registry. Far too many young men who have sex with VERY willing girls who are a year or two below the cut off end up on the registry after "daddy's little girl" gets busted for having sex and the boy ends up nailed to the wall and labeled a "criminal threat" for the rest of his life.

Public urinaters, college boys who have sex with willing girls who are2-3 years younger than them, etc....should not be put on the same list with child rapists....and the only list that child rapists should be on, is a roster for cell block "whatever".

If you are an actual rapist, child molester, or any other kind of sexual predator, you should not get a second chance. It should not be hard not to rape children...if you rape children there is something wrong with you and you should not ever be free again.

Period.

good post. sounds pretty reasonable to me.

ms hope
15-08-2010, 12:16 AM
That's the whole point, they already 'disappear' this is why a register such as this would be effective. Rather taxes go towards locating the perpetrators than paying for MPs inflated expenses and for holding the judicial system to account when the abusers are freed again and again.

Absolutely correct. It would be better to stop paying the MP's and make the judges accountable for their action or non action in many cases, after all they are paid for from the public purse to be public servants and provide a public service, which unfortunately many are not.

copland
06-09-2010, 08:29 AM
Anyone got his domain yet?

Ten grand's a lot of money for a site (unless you're paying a decade in advance). I hope they haven't mugged him off!

I've stuck that list posted earlier on a little search script here (http://www.seancopland.com/articles/sex_offenders_register_free_online_search.html?id= icke). I removed the ones that weren't sex offenders and added a few that were. I want to stick all 6,000 on it.

killmicrosoft
06-09-2010, 08:48 AM
Web campaign is closed down

Thursday, July 02, 2009

AN internet campaign group which aimed to name and shame paedophiles in the Exeter area has been closed. Chris Wittwer set up the group Paedophiles in...

http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/Web-campaign-closed/article-1131283-detail/article.html

mark1963
06-09-2010, 06:50 PM
Anyone got his domain yet?

Ten grand's a lot of money for a site (unless you're paying a decade in advance). I hope they haven't mugged him off!

I've stuck that list posted earlier on a little search script here (http://www.seancopland.com/articles/sex_offenders_register_free_online_search.html?id= icke). I removed the ones that weren't sex offenders and added a few that were. I want to stick all 6,000 on it.

Thank you for this.

mark1963
06-09-2010, 06:51 PM
Web campaign is closed down

Thursday, July 02, 2009

AN internet campaign group which aimed to name and shame paedophiles in the Exeter area has been closed. Chris Wittwer set up the group Paedophiles in...

http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/Web-campaign-closed/article-1131283-detail/article.html

I don't think so. I believe it is still going ahead. He was at the rally in London a couple of weeks ago and said it would be up soon.

anyuser
07-09-2010, 03:28 AM
Web campaign is closed down

Thursday, July 02, 2009

AN internet campaign group which aimed to name and shame paedophiles in the Exeter area has been closed. Chris Wittwer set up the group Paedophiles in...

http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/Web-campaign-closed/article-1131283-detail/article.html

I have seen many sites in the past of the sort and they were closed down by the webhost receiving fake lawyer information from a "internet lawyer as cheap as $5" (example "we will send lawyer info on your behalf for $5 to any webhost you wish) and even though lots of the pages in question had the info on their front page for their host to read, I didn't see any of the host reading that info. They were just pushing the delete key. I documented alot of it on a thread on the di forums but when I went to look over it again, someone had deleted (mod) the whole thread. :mad: :( This made it impossible for me to re-create the pages using some recovery softwear that I was going to use (since I lost the sites/links on where they were at) (google cache works great sometimes if you want to re-create something)

copland
07-09-2010, 05:41 AM
Web campaign is closed down

He needs a new host (http://www.best-hosting.net/). I hope he got his ten grand back. Domain names are only twenty quid, they only take three days to set up, and dedicated servers (http://www.best-hosting.net/dedicated_servers.asp) aren't that much. Virtual accounts are even cheaper (http://www.best-hosting.net/unix_prices.asp)!

Has anyone got that full paedo list? I want to stick it on my site.

I have seen many sites in the past of the sort and they were closed down by the webhost receiving fake lawyer information

They're called DMCA notices, that's one of the reasons I recommend soviet hosting (http://www.best-hosting.net/).

dolores1
07-09-2010, 04:33 PM
bump

practicaltheorist
07-09-2010, 04:43 PM
How about the masses stop worrying about who lives next door and take time to see what their children are up to.

How about sitting down at a dinner table every night and "TALK"

How about throwing the god damn TV out the window, let alone allow one in their children's bedroom.

How about no letting your 12,13 year old daughter wear a Thong!

How about stop dressing your teenage daughter in bunny girl t-shirts

How about putting filters on your internet connection.

How about installing confidence, to allow your children to know that it "GOOD" to be an individual and embrace being "DIFFERENT"

How about we teach our children what is important in life...Love...Nature...Fellow humanity.

How about introducing the Arts to your children.

How about fuelling the passion that EVERYONE has for arts ....be it drawing, dance, music, poetry, sculpture, painting, to name but a few.

Be the change you wish for;)

+ 200 000 000. :)

This is the most sensible thing I`ve seen written in here in my time.

ms hope
07-09-2010, 07:47 PM
Shocking ITV News Interview with Bill Maloney

Shocking ITV News Interview with Bill Maloney - YouTube

jiffy
08-09-2010, 05:54 PM
+ 200 000 000. :)

This is the most sensible thing I`ve seen written in here in my time.

Thanks, I must of banged my head:D

ms hope
10-09-2010, 09:14 PM
Public Protection Reports ?


http://www.probation.homeoffice.gov.uk/output/Page30.asp

entrangermercenary
10-09-2010, 09:27 PM
Chris Wittwer is a champion for vulnerable children and concerned parents. Surprised to see so much naivety on this site! When you're a survivor of abuse at the hands of leaders in authority you acquire the ability to see beyond their masks of respectability. Child sex offenders damage the structure of society, those who are high profile have the power and means to pervert the course of justice.

Let us pray that your children never have to experience the torture of being violated or raped by a 'friendly' local when you could have protected them by supporting a simple and effective register such as this. Our allegiance is with the children, not the perpetrators that ruin lives.

See the opening speech at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 in Trafalgar Square: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxsUrTWJ93c

You my friend are spot fucking on.....


It has been commented before that there seem to be a fair few posters who defend the pedo scum !!!!! :mad: :mad:

Only 1 good thing for pedos and thats clearing minefields in afghan or walking in front of the armoured vehicles to set of IEDs...

How the fuck can any1 come on here and defend them ???!!! Dress it up anyway you like...but defend them they do :mad: :mad:

Children are vulnerable to these clever fuckers and even young adults....how the fuck do you think cults/prostitution rings work !!!!

ms hope
10-09-2010, 09:35 PM
Minty Challis speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010
Minty Challis speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 - YouTube

ms hope
10-09-2010, 10:00 PM
Child abuse rally 2010 speech by Chris Wittwer :)


It is an honour to be part of this great rally and to be amongst so many strong and inspirational people.

Each and every one of us has a personal story to tell, but the one thing that unites us all is ABUSE.

For many it may of take years, for others decades, to build the courage to speak out.

There may be times when we feel low, insecure and lost in a world of hurt and mental anguish.

There may be times when we are powerless to stop the injustice but there must never be a time when we give up and fail to protest.

In my opinion there is nothing more outrageous than the abuse, exploitation and harm of the most vulnerable members of our society.

And I firmly believe that our nations laws and resources need to reflect the seriousness of these terrible acts and crimes. Sentencing needs restructuring, laws need adjusting and more focus and support needed for the survivors.

Now is the time for change!

The best service to the child is the service closest to the child. Those who are victims of neglect, abuse, abandonment and molestation must not also be victims of beaurocracy. They deserve our devoted attention, not our divided attention.

Child abuse is a problem no one really talks about, more kids die of child abuse and neglect than of natural causes. This needs to be addressed.

Our children are our future and we must do all we can to give them the best possible start in life. Children need to be protected from the vile paedophiles and perverts that infest our society and are preying on our kids daily.

Every-time we turn on the television or open a newspaper we see another case of child molestation with the perpetrators receiving pitiful and lenient sentences, that are often suspended or ridiculously short, some even get probation or community service.

They all have social workers bending over backwards to help fulfil their own needs.

Yet the survivor of this abuse is left to suffer the continuing torment for the rest of their lives and as we all know, the abusers continue to re-offend.

I hope to change this by giving parents the information on these sick individuals. C.H.R.I.S children have rights in society was set up by me as a follow on to my paedophile name and shame groups on face book. ACPO had them removed.

But it did show me people were passionate and wanted the information and that the time had finally come when we as a society are ready to stand up and fight back.

Whilst we have Sarah’s Law it needs to be taken much further and the aim is for it to mirror Megan’s Law, where everyone can have access to the register via the Internet.

Awareness is the key to the prevention of abuse.

For all the children who have ever suffered or died at the hands of abuse this rally is for you.

We will be your voice. !

Children have rights in society

copland
10-09-2010, 11:17 PM
does anyone know the facebook url? i might be able to get the list from the internet archive (http://web.archive.org/).

elpressiedente
11-09-2010, 12:41 AM
this is absolutely pathetic....

this is a reaction of citizens in a society gone mad.

a civilisation that does not understand the concept of a souls destiny, its right to learn be being a victim or a prepetrator.

Who gave him the right to persecute people just because the age of consent is 18 or 21 when in some countries its 14.


this madness will only esculate and I tender the following illuminati story


http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mcsvaliinterviewpt1.shtml



excerpt

Here is how it is done (how it was done to me):
[1] When the child is 2 years old, place them in a metal cage with electrodes attached. Shock the child severely.
[2] Take the child out, and place a kitten in its hands. Tell the child to wring the kitten's neck. The child will cry and refuse.
[3] Put the child into the cage, and shock them until they are dazed and cannot scream any more.
[4] Take the child out, and tell them again to wring the kitten's neck. This time the child will shake all over, cry, but do it, afraid of the torture. The child will then go into the corner and vomit afterwards, while the adult praises them for "doing such a good job".

This is the first step. The animals get bigger over time, as the child gets older. They will be forced to kill an infant at some point, either a set up or VR, or in reality. They will be taught by age 9 to put together a gun, to aim, and fire on target and on command. They will then practice on realistic manikins. They will then practice on animals. They will then practice on "expendables" or in VR. They will be highly praised if they do well, and tortured if they don't comply.

The older the child or teen, the more advanced the training. By age 15, most children will also be forced to do hand to hand combat in front of spectators (high people who come to watch the "games" much as the ancient gladiators performed). These matches are rarely done to the death, usually until one child goes down. They use every type of weapon imaginable, and learn to fight for their lives. If a child loses a fight, they are heavily punished by their trainer, who loses "face". If they win, they are again praised for being "strong' and adept with weapons. By the time they are 21, they are well trained combat/killing machines with command codes to kill and they have been tested over and over to prove that they WILL obey on command. This is how children in the German Illuminati are brought up, I went through it myself.

elpressiedente
11-09-2010, 12:49 AM
Svali's courageous testimony explains why our children are no longer taught civic values, why they are being habituated to homosexuality and violence, and why our "culture" is descending into nihilism and sexual depravity.


is fucking with their minds more of an act of pedophillia with longer lasting consequences than fucking with their bodies?

this is a set up to mask their real destruction of civilisation..

even if the site exposing sex offenders is genuine its counter productive in failing to adress the real issues of fucking with underage humans in both mind, body and spirit.

elpressiedente
11-09-2010, 12:50 AM
who keeps the keeper and this site seeks to be a keeper.

willys girl
11-09-2010, 01:04 AM
For the poster who suggested spending time with the children I say correct.However regardless of a young girl dressing too old for her age no one has the right to abuse a child.At what point did the 1,2,3,4,5...............yr old bring it on themselves.Whats wrong with people no mercy should be shown to pedos because they show no mercy to the little children they abuse.This whole attitude of lets try to understand is a load of bullshit and this is why these sickos are still getting away with it.Why should these people not be named and shamed they are the scum of the earth.Why let them live in peace when thats the very thing they have stolen from their innocent victims.

copland
11-09-2010, 05:20 AM
Allowing predatory sex offenders to roam free within your community is about as sensible as allowing man eating tigers to roam free within it also, probably less so.

If the authorities can deal with dangerous animals by tranquilising them and transfering them somewhere away from people, if not destroying them outright, then why not sex offenders?

Of course dangerous animals have rights just as do sex offenders, but they don't have the same rights as the rest of us, and they certainly don't have the right to roam free and unhindered amongst innocent people...

They're too bloody dangerous!

practicaltheorist
11-09-2010, 08:57 AM
The sentiment is a good one but as long as one can not be 100% sure that a person is indeed a sex offender - even if proven guilty in a court of law - chances are that a lot of innocent people will have their lives destroyed because someone branded them as offenders.

I want the real offenders caught and dealt with as much as anyone, but if ONE innocent person is published in such a list, its one too many.

Is it right to try to protect someone from wrongdoing by doing wrong to someone else?

Thats my only concern about this.

helloperator
11-09-2010, 09:42 AM
I think most sex offenders have plenty of shame already

mark1963
11-09-2010, 10:29 AM
I think most sex offenders have plenty of shame already

Of course they do. That's why they keep re-offending and even escalate what they do, it's because they are ashamed.

jiffy
11-09-2010, 11:48 AM
For the poster who suggested spending time with the children I say correct.However regardless of a young girl dressing too old for her age no one has the right to abuse a child.At what point did the 1,2,3,4,5...............yr old bring it on themselves.Whats wrong with people no mercy should be shown to pedos because they show no mercy to the little children they abuse.This whole attitude of lets try to understand is a load of bullshit and this is why these sickos are still getting away with it.Why should these people not be named and shamed they are the scum of the earth.Why let them live in peace when thats the very thing they have stolen from their innocent victims.

Sadly you missed the whole point, by suggesting that parents should dress their children appropriately has nothing to do with the child deserving or directly encouraging anything.

It has to do with how society subconscious perceives child. Whilst this may not effect you, it does however effect others.

Why do you think the US and UK has the unhappiest children in the western world.
Teenage pregnancies.
Child drug abuse
Child Alcoholism
Child abuse
Child Murders

To name but a few.


As a family with both Italian and Spanish influence, I am always dumbstruck for a country (UK) that bangs on about child protection and Pedophilia, it has such a low level of respect for children.

This country treats both its young and old as second class citizens.

ms hope
14-09-2010, 05:26 PM
Paedophile church minister drove nine-year-old boy to brink of suicide


A PENTECOSTAL minister who carried out a string of sex attacks on a nine-year-old boy drove his victim to the brink of suicide, a court heard.
James Britton, a youth worker at the Assemblies Of God Pentecostal Church in Lincoln, was training for his role as a minister when he carried out the abuse more than 30 years ago.

Lincoln Crown Court heard how the victim's life was wrecked by the abuse carried out by Britton, but the offences remained a secret until the victim, now in his 40s, revealed what had happened to him during a counselling session.

Britton, who went on to serve the church as a minister at the Bishop Auckland-based Wear Valley Christian Centre for more than 25 years, was arrested by police at his home in County Durham and went on to confess not only to abusing the boy, but also revealed he carried out a sex offence against another young boy.

Britton, 72, of Tunstall Grove, Bishop Auckland, admitted seven charges of indecent assault and two charges of indecency against one boy and a further charge of indecency involving the second boy. The charges related to offences between January 1975 and June 1976.
Judge Sean Morris jailed Britton for four and a half years and placed him on the Sex Offenders' Register for the rest of his life.

He told Britton: "While you were in that position of trust as a supposedly religious man you performed sex acts on a child.
"You have wrecked a life. Your victim has had trouble throughout his life thanks to your evil.

"At a very early age he became troubled and depressed. He finds it hard to relate to other men. It has caused difficulties with his relationships. He has been under the care of a psychologist. That is all thanks to a man of the church. That's what makes it worse."

Lois Colley, prosecuting, said Britton committed the offences after befriending the boy and his family while working for the church in Lincoln.
The boy went to police in October last year and disclosed he had been regularly abused by Britton when he was about nine years old.
Miss Colley told the court the victim who made the original complaint to police had tried to take his own life.

"As a nine-year-old he made a suicide attempt by taking an overdose of medication to try to stop what was happening to him. The victim has been troubled throughout his life. He says the defendant has had a career, a wife and a family. All of those things have been taken away from the victim."

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Pentecostal-minister-drove-year-old-boy-brink-suicide/article-2638739-detail/article.html

ms hope
14-09-2010, 05:33 PM
The Beast File: Catholic Church Sex Scandals (HUNGRY BEAST)
The Beast File: Catholic Church Sex Scandals (HUNGRY BEAST) - YouTube

willys girl
14-09-2010, 06:17 PM
[QUOTE=jiffy;1059228800]Sadly you missed the whole point, by suggesting that parents should dress their children appropriately has nothing to do with the child deserving or directly encouraging anything.

Can you please show me where I made this statement.

willys girl
14-09-2010, 06:20 PM
Where this man found the courage to finally stand up to his abuser lord only knows but im glad he did.

shed7628
14-09-2010, 06:31 PM
are they mad or bad ?

Because they should be treated as one or the other

ms hope
14-09-2010, 09:48 PM
Clergyman teacher sexually assaulted children in his classroom, court told

A CLERGYMAN and former primary school teacher assaulted pupils when they were reading stories to the rest of the class, a court was told.
James Andrew Christopher Wilson, pictured, is accused of touching boys and girls while they were standing behind his desk reading out loud at Pennycross Primary School.

The 61-year-old, from Calstock, denies indecently assaulting 11 children under the age of 13. He is accused of 16 counts, which all relate to alleged incidents in the 1970s and early 1980s.
Wilson was ordained as a priest in 1983 and was a clergyman in a number of places around Devon and Cornwall before becoming Rector and Rural Dean of Calstock.

Speaking at the first day of Wilson's trial at Plymouth Crown Court yesterday, prosecution barrister Andrew Oldland said that one of the defendant's alleged victims contacted the police after watching a television programme featuring a story of sexual abuse on a young person by a clergyman.

"What stuck in her mind is what the defendant did to her whilst she was stood reading to the class," Mr Oldland told the court.
"He was sat in his chair, she was stood immediately to his left with the bottom half of his body concealed from the rest of the class by the desk.
"She felt the defendant's hand touch the inside of her leg and work its way up. At that age, she didn't know it was wrong."

After contacting police, the woman then sent a message via Facebook to other former pupils saying she had spoken with officers about something that happened at primary school.

"She didn't go in to detail about what happened," said Mr Oldland.
"She received a number of replies from other women who had been girls at the time in her class indicating that the defendant had done similar things to them."

After Wilson's arrest and subsequent reports in the Press, more people came forward.

Giving evidence to the jury of six women and six men, the alleged victim said every child in the class would, over time, go and stand next to Wilson behind the desk and read.

"We stood behind and looked out on the students," she said.
"I would stand beside him and he would reach his left arm around me and put his hand between my legs.

"I didn't know what to make of it. I was too young to understand."
She said she could not remember how many times the alleged assaults had taken place but she told the court they would happen every time she went up to read.

And she added that she did not tell anyone because she was not sure if the alleged incidents were right or wrong or if she would be believed.
In Wilson's defence, David Evans questioned the woman's witness statement in which she remembered him being a vicar at the time of the alleged assaults and seeing him wearing a dark suit and dog collar.
"The fact of the matter is Mr Wilson wasn't a vicar when you were at Pennycross School," said Mr Evans.

"He was not a clergyman, that's something you are transferring to him. The truth is he never wore a dog collar at school."
But the woman said she remembered him wearing the clothing.
"The defendant never touched you in any sexual way whatsoever, did he?" said Mr Evans.

"I can't believe you said that," replied the woman. "Eleven people have come forward. If I was lying, why would all these people come forward?"
The trial continues.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/TEACHER-ASSAULTED-KIDS-CLASS/article-2638655-detail/article.html

ms hope
14-09-2010, 10:02 PM
Churchgoer avoids prison over child porn downloads

A CHURCHGOER has avoided prison after downloading indecent images of children from the internet.

Police found thousands of photographs and videos on computers belonging to "committed Christian" Jonathan Perkin.
Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court heard that officers searched the 42-year-old's house in October 2007 and seized five computers, two of which were found to have illegal photographs on them.

Paul Spratt, prosecuting, said: "The first computer, which had a separate hard drive, contained 113,707 still images from level one to four and 186 moving images from level one to four.
A laptop, which also had a separate hard drive, contained 460 level one still images and 22 moving images."

Perkin admitted 12 charges of making indecent photographs of children and two charges of possessing indecent photographs of children.
The defendant pleaded guilty on the basis that the only images he intentionally downloaded were level one – the lowest of five levels of seriousness. :rolleyes:

The court heard that Perkin, of Newhouse Road, Abbey Hulton, had no previous convictions.

Paul Cliff, mitigating, said: "The offences are nearly three years old and there's no suggestion of any offending since."

Judge Robert Trevor-Jones handed Perkin a three-year community order and ordered him to complete a sex offenders programme. He was disqualified from working with children for life, put on the sex offenders register for five years, and pay £2,789 costs.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Churchgoer-avoids-prison-child-porn/article-2639018-detail/article.html

ms hope
14-09-2010, 11:30 PM
CHILD ABUSE LINKS TO LAW CHIEF, ISLINGTON, SUFFOLK...

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/09/child-abuse-links-to-law-chief.html

helloperator
14-09-2010, 11:48 PM
Of course they do. That's why they keep re-offending and even escalate what they do, it's because they are ashamed.

An internet page will stop them!

Or maybe it will at least help feed the rage of pontificating do gooders

ms hope
15-09-2010, 05:16 PM
Teacher jailed for under-age sex in Worcestershire

A teacher has been jailed for four years after being found guilty of having sex with a 15-year-old pupil.

David Robinson, 41, of Belmont Road, Malvern, Worcestershire, taught sex education and other subjects at a school in the county.
He denied six counts of sexual activity with a child. He was found guilty of five charges but cleared of the sixth, at an earlier hearing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-11285540

ms hope
15-09-2010, 09:25 PM
Children's home worker in Scotland struck off for stalking boy

A residential childcare worker who stalked a 16-year-old boy has become the first children's home worker to be struck off in Scotland.
Graham Preston, a former Perth and Kinross Council employee, was questioned by the police after following the boy down a road in Kirkcaldy, Fife, in October 2008.
But it was only when he was caught stalking the boy again in August 2009 that Preston was charged with "conducting himself in a disorderly manner" and "placing [the 16-year-old] in a state of fear and alarm".

http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2010/09/13/115310/childrens-home-worker-in-scotland-struck-off-for-stalking-boy.htm

ms hope
16-09-2010, 11:08 AM
C.H.R.I.S ( chidren have rights in society )

With the largest database in the world (9500) for UK paedophiles with photos,crimes and locations exposed.Missing children profiles.Exposing the truth about Paedophilia and abuse of children in the UK.Help and support for survivors of all abuse and those being abused right NOW !

301 Moved Permanently

ms hope
16-09-2010, 09:57 PM
Sentence delay for deputy head who watched rape of girl, 3 :mad:

The sentencing of a deputy headteacher who encouraged another man to rape a three-year-old girl and then watched was adjourned today.
Patrick Lennon, 59, was due to be sentenced at Liverpool Crown Court but the hearing was adjourned because of the late receipt of a psychiatric report and a probation officer's illness.

Lennon, who taught at the all-girls Greenbank High School in Southport, Merseyside, will be sentenced with his two co-accused on October 4.
Lennon encouraged John Hawley, 38, to sexually abuse the child while he and a third paedophile, Phillip Skitt, 54, of Orrell Road, Wigan, watched via a webcam.

Lennon was suspended from his post last September, having worked at the school since the 1970s.

He pleaded guilty at Liverpool Crown Court in July to a string of sexual offences including two counts of encouraging or assisting Hawley, of Boundary Street, Bolton, to commit the attack on the girl.
Hawley admitted three counts of raping the child during two years.
Lennon, of Warwick Avenue, Crosby, encouraged Hawley to attack the girl on November 16 2008.

He admitted two counts of encouraging the abuse, six counts of possessing extreme pornography, and 15 counts of making indecent images of children.
When police arrested the disgraced teacher, a trawl of his computer led them to Skitt and Hawley.

Skitt and Hawley have known each other for several years, Greater Manchester Police detectives said.
They mostly communicated online but also met in person.
Skitt admitted two charges of encouraging the abuse, voyeurism and making indecent images of children.

The trio will be sentenced at Liverpool Crown Court.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sentence-delay-for-deputy-head-who-watched-rape-of-girl-3-2081063.html

carlperkins
17-09-2010, 09:33 PM
C.H.R.I.S ( chidren have rights in society )

With the largest database in the world (9500) for UK paedophiles with photos,crimes and locations exposed.Missing children profiles.Exposing the truth about Paedophilia and abuse of children in the UK.Help and support for survivors of all abuse and those being abused right NOW !

http://www.vimeo.com/14957051

So we share that video and then have access to the website after 10 days? Have you seen the website yet? I've shared the video on facebook.

ms hope
23-09-2010, 12:20 AM
BRENTWOOD: Salvation Army carer Glenn Brown jailed for abusing boys aged 7


A SALVATION Army carer has been jailed for six years after an anonymous tip-off revealed he had been sexually abusing boys as young as seven.
Glenn Brown, 48, of Grangewood Close, Brentwood, subjected the young and vulnerable to grave sexual acts over a 14-year-period.

More than 6,000 indecent images of children – some involving boys in sexual activity – and 500 sadistic photos showing children tied up and clad in hoods were also found on his computer.

Sentencing the paedophile at Basildon Crown Court on Friday (September 17), Judge Ian Graham said: "You have shown a predatory instinct towards young boys and the vulnerable and you were prepared to indulge in it to satisfy your own gratification.
"It is clear these offences can only be dealt with by way of a substantial period in custody."

Brown's history of sexual abuse was revealed following an anonymous tip-off, which came after police started to investigate the predator for downloading indecent images.

Brown's depraved habits were uncovered by a computer repair specialist who had been fixing his computer. Investigating officers found almost 6,000 indecent images of children downloaded from a Russian internet site.
Police then received an unsigned letter at the end of 2009 urging them to look into details of alleged sexual abuse against three boys.
The abuse had taken place over a 14-year period in Brentwood, starting when Brown was 20, and ultimately involved obscene sexual acts including cases of sexual assault.

During the subsequent search of his home police also unearthed video footage filmed by Brown showing him kissing and touching a man with learning disabilities who had been tied to a bed.
In one scene the man, who was described as having a mental age of between six and seven, had been tricked into re-enacting a scene from the musical Joseph which Brown, working voluntarily as a community carer, had taken him to see.

Brown pleaded guilty to 13 counts of gross indecency with boys aged under 14 and three counts of indecent assault on a man aged over 16 at the same court on August 5. He further admitted numerous charges of making and possessing indecent images of children.

Det Con Dave Acres from the Child Abuse Investigation Unit said: "The sentence of Brown sends out a clear message to those who abuse the most vulnerable in our community.

"I wonder if Brown ever stopped to think what damage it does to those children, how their lives are probably scarred for ever, so people like him can seek gratification.

"I have no doubt he would have carried on offending had he not been found out and I hope that his victims can find some comfort from the sentencing today."

District Crown Prosecutor for the CPS, Michelle Brown said: "This man has over a sustained period of time assaulted young boys for his own sexual gratification.

"He took advantage of those that he was supposed to help and support purely to seek opportunities for his deviant sexual behaviour.
"We want to thank all of the victims for coming forward and assisting the prosecution.

"At least they haven't had to relive their terrible ordeal through the course of a trial.

"We can only hope they can find some closure following his sentence today and feel safer in the knowledge that he has been punished for his crimes against them."

On top of his prison sentence, the pervert has been placed on the Sex Offenders Register indefinitely as well as being made subject of an indefinite Sexual Offences Prevention Order (SOPO)
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http://www.thisistotalessex.co.uk/news/carer-jailed-abusing-boys-aged-7/article-2668246-detail/article.html

void
23-09-2010, 12:25 AM
BRENTWOOD: Salvation Army carer Glenn Brown jailed for abusing boys aged 7

Crikey, I'll never be able to look at one of them with the shaking donation container, the same way again :eek:

ms hope
23-09-2010, 12:27 AM
Chris Wittwer speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010
Chris Wittwer speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 - YouTube

nofuture
23-09-2010, 11:43 AM
Two paedophiles murder the victim they abused as a boy before killing themselves

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314482/Two-paedophiles-murder-victim-abused-boy-killing-themselves.html#ixzz10LdxL1Sm

strongbow
23-09-2010, 12:10 PM
May be we should just leave it up to this little lot, after all they are corporate parents who work in the 'best interests of the child' and have done a wonderful job of keeping everything hidden :rolleyes:

A BIG thank you to Chris Wittwer - As promised - perverts paedophiles and sex offenders in the establishment !

Just some of the hundreds he has on his website.

Coming soon. lists of judges , lists of teachers and lists of police !

Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell - Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn etc.

Excellent!

We want more of this and a hell of a lot less of the oh-so-PC "vigilante brain dead bunch" and "thick people" demonisation from from the jiffy amd rhydra set.

There is, of course, another site that deals with the type of criminal our PC chums wouldn't want us knowing about.

Until they do something to us, that is.

I know the immigrant is supposed to be pitied and all that but I never signed up for mass immigration, never mind the mass criminality that came with it.

Check out the Rogues' Gallery at the I AM AN ENGLISHMAN web site for evidence of such criminality.

eternal_spirit
23-09-2010, 12:27 PM
Excellent!

We want more of this and a hell of a lot less of the oh-so-PC "vigilante brain dead bunch" and "thick people" demonisation from from the jiffy amd rhydra set.

There is, of course, another site that deals with the type of criminal our PC chums wouldn't want us knowing about.

Until they do something to us, that is.

I know the immigrant is supposed to be pitied and all that but I never signed up for mass immigration, never mind the mass criminality that came with it.

Check out the Rogues' Gallery at the I AM AN ENGLISHMAN web site for evidence of such criminality.
Thing is MShope only seems to post about English pervs (that's the only thing he/she posts here loads of threads) If I posted about other pervs I'd be hounded, can you see the double standards and hypocrisy at play here?

BTW yes I have seen the rogues gallery, very disturbing stuff. Maybe start a thread about it?
Then you'll see why I made the statement about double standards.

I started a number of threads and found out.
There has to be balance right? Not just storys about English "white" pervs, otherwise wouldn't that be racist? To only post about one group....

Am I right or am I right?

ms hope
23-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Public Protection – figures for each area

http://www.probation.homeoffice.gov.uk/output/Page30.asp

ms hope
23-09-2010, 03:10 PM
Woman teacher charged after 'having sex with two pupils'

A female teacher at an all-boys school has been charged with sex offences against two pupils.

Hina Patel, 37, was working as a supply teacher when over a period of several weeks she allegedly engaged two boys, both 16, in sexual acts while at the school.

Patel was employed as a cover supervisor, filling short-term absences of teachers at Birkdale High School, Merseyside, which has 930 pupils aged 11 to 16.

Miss Patel was listed on the school website as being the wellbeing officer for the most junior pupils. She also led pupils in helping to prepare a school magazine.

She was immediately suspended from her position after the allegations emerged earlier this year.
Yesterday she was charged with sexual misconduct against two pupils at the school. Birkdale High, a former secondary modern, has a reputation for academic and sporting excellence.

The school motto is Nihil Nisi Bonum – Only the Best Will Do – and it counts Everton and England Under-21 midfielder Jack Rodwell as a former pupil.
Last night parents spoke of their shock at the alleged offences against the two boys

One mother said: ‘I am absolutely speechless. With physical sports of all kinds there are all sorts of things a parent can worry about but this is one of the last things you’d expect.
‘Lots of parents are horrified as it is the last thing you would expect from a good school like this one.’

A father said: ‘There are many, many parents who are rightly angry over this. Although the school has acted promptly, there had been some concerns among pupils for some time.’

The boys, who cannot be named for legal reasons, are said to have been withdrawn from the school.

Although the pupils are thought to be above the age of consent, it is a criminal offence for a person ‘to engage in any sexual activity with a person aged under 18 with whom they have a relationship of trust, irrespective of the age of consent, even if the basis for their relationship is consensual’.
Patel is to appear in court next month on two counts of abusing her position of trust by engaging in sexual activity with a child.

Headmaster Gary Loveridge said the school was fully co-operating with police in their investigations.

He added: ‘We can’t say anything because there is no hard and fast information available.

‘If we make any presumptions, it would be liable to wreck any police case.’
A spokesman for Sefton Council added: ‘A member of staff was suspended as soon as these allegations arose and her fixed-term contract has now come to an end.’

A spokesman for Merseyside Police said: ‘We can confirm that Hina Patel has been charged with two counts of abusing her position of trust (as a school employee) by sexual activity with a child.’
Patel, who lives in a £200,000 three-bedroomed semi-detached house in Hightown, Merseyside, refused to comment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314316/Teacher-Hina-Patel-charged-having-sex-pupils.html

mattzadak
23-09-2010, 03:30 PM
[QUOTE=ms hope;1059143098
New site to shame sex offenders


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google?

ie

they always have those logo specials why not a ribbon for sex abuse victims and that

carlperkins
23-09-2010, 07:11 PM
Excellent!

We want more of this and a hell of a lot less of the oh-so-PC "vigilante brain dead bunch" and "thick people" demonisation from from the jiffy amd rhydra set.

There is, of course, another site that deals with the type of criminal our PC chums wouldn't want us knowing about.

Until they do something to us, that is.

I know the immigrant is supposed to be pitied and all that but I never signed up for mass immigration, never mind the mass criminality that came with it.

Check out the Rogues' Gallery at the I AM AN ENGLISHMAN web site for evidence of such criminality.

I looked at that site:

The tiniest fraction of those first and second-generation immigrants, who have killed, raped and otherwise violated British men, women and children in Britain, is represented below.

I'm absolutely certain that the way forward for everybody, including Englishmen, would be to see a bit more in energy systems than a skin colour or dat of arrival. England is on the same planet as everyone else, isn't it? Wasn't Peter Sutcliffe "English", or Thomas Hamilton? When an Englishman commits murder, is it not a crime because he is "English"? So many "English" people are blatantly racist, sometimes I forget, sorry, I suppose I have to love them for it the lovely little English fascists.

ms hope
23-09-2010, 09:28 PM
Please remember this thread is about the abuse of little children, not race.

eternal_spirit
23-09-2010, 09:54 PM
Please remember this thread is about the abuse of little children, not race.
So why not do some threads/posts about other races (apart from whites) you've done loads of threads about only white pervs, and not one person has accused you of being racist.

Maybe you're trying to make out whites are more perverted than other races? I've seen a fair few people try and claim such nonsense.

Point is I made a small number of threads about Muslim and Muslim immigrant perverts and got attacked viscioulsy by alot of members and called racist.

Yet not one person has said a bad word to you about your biased reporting of one race *whites)

eternal_spirit
23-09-2010, 09:55 PM
I looked at that site:



I'm absolutely certain that the way forward for everybody, including Englishmen, would be to see a bit more in energy systems than a skin colour or dat of arrival. England is on the same planet as everyone else, isn't it? Wasn't Peter Sutcliffe "English", or Thomas Hamilton? When an Englishman commits murder, is it not a crime because he is "English"? So many "English" people are blatantly racist, sometimes I forget, sorry, I suppose I have to love them for it the lovely little English fascists.
Racist scum.

armoured_amazon
23-09-2010, 09:58 PM
How about the masses stop worrying about who lives next door and take time to see what their children are up to.

How about sitting down at a dinner table every night and "TALK"

How about throwing the god damn TV out the window, let alone allow one in their children's bedroom.

How about no letting your 12,13 year old daughter wear a Thong!

How about stop dressing your teenage daughter in bunny girl t-shirts

How about putting filters on your internet connection.

How about installing confidence, to allow your children to know that it "GOOD" to be an individual and embrace being "DIFFERENT"

How about we teach our children what is important in life...Love...Nature...Fellow humanity.

How about introducing the Arts to your children.

How about fuelling the passion that EVERYONE has for arts ....be it drawing, dance, music, poetry, sculpture, painting, to name but a few.

Be the change you wish for;)

Word up!

strongbow
24-09-2010, 09:41 AM
There has to be balance right? Not just storys about English "white" pervs, otherwise wouldn't that be racist? To only post about one group....

Am I right or am I right?

You are right, ES.

During the course of the last 50 politically correct years the "balance" wasn't there. It still isn't.

Although the mainstream media have, of late, been catching up as regards Muslim misbehaviour, and a fair amount of black criminality has been written up, one only has to compare the coverage of the Stephen Lawrence saga with that of the "rogues" on the the first page of "The Gallery", to see how traitorously skewed the propaganda messages, in parliament and the media, have been over the years.

The last time I looked, Stephen's name had been mentioned in parliament on more than 1,000 occasions. I should think it's a fair bet to say that the thousands of Black, Brown and eastern European murderers, rapists, drug barons, pimps and thieves in Rogues Gallery have been mentioned less than half that number of times in the same place.

When parliament and the media are happy to broadcast statistics that damn the PC Crowd's happy-clappy melting pot agenda as monumentally as the Interracial Homicide figures at the SECRETS blog do, then there will will no longer be a need for sites like I AM AN ENGLISHMAN.

Such sites were created, one supposes, to redress, fractionally, the anti-Brit propaganda bias demonstrated so blatantly in recent times by our treacherous media and political elite.

SECRETS: http://ironwand.blogspot.com/

Interracial Homicide Statistics: http://airstrip4.blogspot.com/2010/03/interracial-homicide-statistics.html

As regards the PC Crowd's constant repetition of the "racist" mantra, it may interest some to know that the first known use of this word appears in the 1930 tract "The History of the Russian Revolution". This was penned by none other than the mass-murdering Russian revolutionary, Leon Trotsky. (Lev Bronstein)

http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1930/hrr/ch01.htm

Trotsky was, of course, Jewish.

As were so many who imposed that dreadful event, and its ghastly seventy year aftermath, upon the masses.

Trotsky's use of the Russian word, "расистов", (Latin = "racistov") was translated by US author, Max Eastman, as “racists” in 1932.

The term "racialism", which was not pejorative, was coined in 1907.

When the Russian Revolution's brute Marxist message failed to gain ground elsewhere in the world, Cultural Marxism (political correctness) was born.

The Frankfurt School was established in 1923 to propagate this anti-human ideology.
The most influential of these Cultural Marxists were, surprise, surprise, almost all Jewish.

Check it out here:

http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?iCategoryId=1127&iParentId=1097



Wasn't Peter Sutcliffe "English", or Thomas Hamilton? When an Englishman commits murder, is it not a crime because he is "English"? So many "English" people are blatantly racist, sometimes I forget, sorry, I suppose I have to love them for it the lovely little English fascists.

Ah.

How soon do the PC Crowd reach for the big box of indigenous insult when a Brit sticks up for his own.

Thomas Hamilton, and his elite fellows, are given a bit of a going over at the I AM AN ENGLISHMAN site, here:

http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?page=3&iCategoryId=189&iParentId=182

The general point I made earlier in this post applies to Sutcliffe and Hamilton.

The mainstream media and the politicians, rightly, went to town on such grotesques. Thus, there was never a need for an expose of their criminal behaviours at a site like IAAE. The Dunblane matter appears at the site because of the murky details that the politicians have been at pains to keep from the public.

Where "murky detail" suits the PC Crowd, it gets published. Too often, when it doesn't suit, it doesn't get published. IAAE and similar sites attempt to redress the "balance" a little. Which those who routinely make use of the "racist", "Fascist", deeply Trotskyist "hate-speech" b*llocks, don't much like.

I wonder, as regards the "white" degenerate, CP, would you string up the Hamiltons and the Sutcliffes? I know the UAF type is bit squeamish about such things. It's OK to get all foam-flecked, spittal drenched and slaughterous when confronting the odd BNP type en masse, but when it comes to the not-necessarily-racist mass murderer, well, don't we have to pity and understand such folk?

According to accepted PC wisdom?

I'd be rid of the Sutcliffes and Hamiltons, CP. I'd string the f***ers up. Along with a goodly proportion of the monsters in Rogues Gallery.

Trotsky, Marx (also Jewish) and the Cultural Marxists would be proud of you, CP.

I don't think they'd have much time for me.

nofuture
24-09-2010, 02:01 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-11403984

A postman from Cornwall who used social-networking websites to abuse hundreds of children has been jailed for eight-and-a-half years.

Michael Williams admitted 27 charges at Truro Crown Court in May. They included inciting sexual activity, grooming and distributing indecent images.

The jury heard Williams, 29, of Tresooth Lane, Penryn, had approached children on Facebook and Bebo.

After grooming them he asked some to perform sexual acts over the internet.

The court heard he abused children between 2004 and 2009.

Devon and Cornwall Police have identified about 500 victims he groomed or abused, but believe there could be up to 1,000 youngsters in total because hundreds were too scared to come forward.

After creating at least eight fake online profiles, Williams targeted youngsters he met on his post round, on school runs as a taxi driver, and in his role as secretary of a football club.

He also pleaded guilty to voyeurism and possessing indecent images.


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49231000/jpg/_49231778_49231777.jpg


Apologies for drawing your attention to this story. I know some people are only interested in paedo stories when it's non whites involved. :D:o:p

eternal_spirit
24-09-2010, 02:38 PM
Apologies for drawing your attention to this story. I know some people are only interested in paedo stories when it's non whites involved. :D:o:p

It's hypocrisy and double standards (post about white perverts that's kosher and not racist - post about none whites that's racist)
Simple concept and can be seen on this site often, you know it's true.

During a crackdown on the mosque, police were astonished to discover pornography on computer hard drives. But what was not reported then was that the haul included images of children being sexually abused that were encoded with messages as a clandestine method of communication. Ed Sayed was sentenced to eight years in absentia in 2004 for terrorism-related offences.
Stefano Dambruoso, Italy's anti-terror magistrate, said: “In our experience in investigating Islamic cells linked to al-Qaeda, they use pornographic images simply to camouflage the content of their messages. They use the images — of men, women and children — as an instrument to hide messages of quite a different content.
“I would exclude the idea that they have paedophile tendencies. The most you can attribute to them is a relationship between men and women different from that of us Westerners, in which — as in many parts of the Arab world — wives are often very young girls of 11, 12 or 13 who because of family negotiations are given in marriage to men much older than them. But that is not paedophilia, it is a question of Arab culture.”
The Times has also found a case in Spain where an Islamic terror suspect is accused of downloading child pornography, a case in Yorkshire where child protection officers stumbled on a nail-bomb terror plotter, and a case in Salford where officers discovered a chemistry student visiting explosives websites and also downloading child abuse images. The Spanish case, still before the courts, resulted from raids by the Guardia Civil directed at breaking up a terrorist cell in October 2007. Thousands of hardcore pornographic images of young children were found on home computers.
Abdelkader Ayachine, an Algerian in his forties working in Burgos, is in custody awaiting trial for terrorism. He is accused of incitement to jihad via the internet by recruiting volunteers to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, and of sending money to prisoners belonging to an Islamic terrorist movement. But he had a dual use for the internet, if another charge is proven. Prosecutors say “he regularly downloads and transfers” from the internet to the computer installed in his home “numerous video and photographic files of child pornography, in which the main characters are minors having sex among themselves or with adults”.
In police raids on him and five other suspects, investigators discovered bomb manuals and text, audio and video in which he and the other suspects were said to praise jihad. He is linked to the Islamist terrorist group that killed 45 people in a suicide bomb attack in Casablanca in 2003.
One area that British anti-terror investigators are now keen to look at is the startling similarity in the way that jihadis and paedophiles target vulnerable young people, first befriending them and then slowly introducing them to warped behaviour that comes to be seen as normal. “What we were starting to see was a similarity in grooming that goes on in paedophilia and grooming that goes on in extremism,” said the anti-terror source.
The source explained that both types of criminal also share a need for great secrecy and indeed it is the paedophiles' status as outcasts as well as their expertise in encryption techniques that may have first attracted the terrorists. Hardline Muslim recruits are often given passwords and keycodes to terrorism sites via internet chatrooms, although sometimes they come from sympathisers in local mosques. But recently British police have managed to crack some of the codes that prohibit outsiders from accessing the more hardcore jihadi sites. Using child porn sites might be one way round this.
Some paedophiles have become adept at encrypting information and burying it so deeply in the internet that no outsider can easily find it. Paedophiles then meet in cyberspace and swap notes on how to reach the images. None is likely to rush to police saying they suspect that they have spotted a terrorist loitering on their child porn website.
Another area investigators will want to explore is the similarity between the personalities of paedophiles and terrorists. “If they are going out, a lot of time is spent by going to the mosque or going off to internet cafés,” the source said.
Shahien Taj, the director of the Henna Foundation, which deals with domestic violence against women and children, said that both terrorists and paedophiles were obsessed with control and domination. She attacked the hypocrisy of terrorists who claim to espouse religious motives on one hand while degrading children on the other.
Not every terrorist downloading child pornography is a Muslim, though. The British Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre was investigating the case of paedophile Philip Thompson, known as the Librarian because he lent out his 241,000 images of child abuse. They sent an intelligence file to police about a suspected associate, Martyn Gilleard, 31, a forklift truck driver and Hitler enthusiast from Goole on Humberside.
When officers turned up looking for child abuse images, they found 39,000 of them. But they also stumbled across Gilleard's stash of machetes, swords, bullets, gunpowder and nail bombs. He wanted to start a race war.
There is another case involving a white man that may be telling. Edward Mattison, a 21-year-old chemistry student from Salford, was jailed in 2006 after he admitted explosives offences. He created homemade bombs using chemicals including a deadly substance known as “Mother of Satan”, used in the London bombings and by Palestinian suicide bombers. He admitted offences relating to seven images of child pornography, though his lawyer said this happened just once through curiosity. He was never accused of terrorism.
Through glimpses of these characters, a pattern can be seen: the same kind of obsessive, sometimes paranoid, individual who becomes skilled in locating the rotten fruit of the internet, from bombmaking instructions to child pornography.
Just as the paedophiles have been getting cleverer at hiding their abuse images, the authorities have been raising their technological game. But it is feared that clues to terror plots may have escaped police attention because of a lack of communication between Scotland Yard's child protection and anti-terrorism specialists.
“It's worth researching this [link between terrorism and child pornography] further because we will get an operational strategy with the paedophile unit when they are infiltrating a paedophile site,” the source said.
“If we are now seeing that they are using these kind of sites as a smokescreen, as a safe haven, they will never think we are cops.”



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4958674.ece

the_gent
24-09-2010, 02:56 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-11403984

A postman from Cornwall who used social-networking websites to abuse hundreds of children has been jailed for eight-and-a-half years.

Michael Williams admitted 27 charges at Truro Crown Court in May. They included inciting sexual activity, grooming and distributing indecent images.

The jury heard Williams, 29, of Tresooth Lane, Penryn, had approached children on Facebook and Bebo.

After grooming them he asked some to perform sexual acts over the internet.

The court heard he abused children between 2004 and 2009.

Devon and Cornwall Police have identified about 500 victims he groomed or abused, but believe there could be up to 1,000 youngsters in total because hundreds were too scared to come forward.

After creating at least eight fake online profiles, Williams targeted youngsters he met on his post round, on school runs as a taxi driver, and in his role as secretary of a football club.

He also pleaded guilty to voyeurism and possessing indecent images.


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49231000/jpg/_49231778_49231777.jpg


Apologies for drawing your attention to this story. I know some people are only interested in paedo stories when it's non whites involved. :D:o:p

Really freaky, but I remember reading a story around ten years ago about a postman who was caught having sex with a goat in a field. He was doing it next to a trainline, and a train full of commuters saw him as they went past on their way to work. I'm 99% sure it's the same guy in that picture! :eek:

Also, Eternal Spirit... is your hatred against muslims that strong that you need to come on here and moan at people for not posting stories about muslim sex offenders? Reign it in please, it's getting embarrassing. :(

strongbow
24-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Apologies for drawing your attention to this story. I know some people are only interested in paedo stories when it's non whites involved. :D:o:p

No apology necessary, nofuture.

Guys like this deserve all the condemnatory publicity the behaviours warrant.

However, you do rather prove my point. This story was covered by the BBC. Doubtless, Williams will soon rightly feature in the rest of the mainstream media. Whereas, for example, the same mainstream media has not touched the 6 September Lancashire Evening Post report, here: http://www.lep.co.uk/news/80_child_sex_cases_in_just_three_months_1_1498631

Here we are told:

A staggering 80 CASES OF SUSPECTED CHILD SEXUAL EXPLOITATION HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO PRESTON DETECTIVES IN JUST THREE MONTHS. A specialist team, which was set up to deal with grooming and child sexual exploitation, has seen a significant rise in the number of referrals since it was formed 18 months ago.

Last week, MOHAMMED MOOSA, 24, of Holmrook Road, Deepdale, Preston, was given a three-year jail sentence after pleading guilty to abduction and sexual activity with a 13-year-old girl. MOOSA was snared after the Deter Team, made up of a team of experts including police, social workers and charities, was put on the case of two young girls who had been reported missing from home.

The team traced MOOSA and a second man, FAISAL GHANI, who admitted abduction, to a hotel in Blackpool where THE GIRLS WERE FOUND TO HAVE HAD DRANK LARGE AMOUNTS OF ALCOHOL AND HAD TAKEN DRUGS.

The case preceded a further 79 REFERRALS which were taken to the Deter Team between the start of April and the end of June.

A detective said the crime was “likely to be under-reported".

A support worker said the crimes were "the tip of the iceberg".

Apologies for drawing your attention to this story. I know some people are only interested in paedo stories when it's Whites involved.

:D:o:p

eternal_spirit
24-09-2010, 03:19 PM
You are right, ES.

During the course of the last 50 politically correct years the "balance" wasn't there. It still isn't.

Although the mainstream media have, of late, been catching up as regards Muslim misbehaviour, and a fair amount of black criminality has been written up, one only has to compare the coverage of the Stephen Lawrence saga with that of the "rogues" on the the first page of "The Gallery", to see how traitorously skewed the propaganda messages, in parliament and the media, have been over the years.

The last time I looked, Stephen's name had been mentioned in parliament on more than 1,000 occasions. I should think it's a fair bet to say that the thousands of Black, Brown and eastern European murderers, rapists, drug barons, pimps and thieves in Rogues Gallery have been mentioned less than half that number of times in the same place.

When parliament and the media are happy to broadcast statistics that damn the PC Crowd's happy-clappy melting pot agenda as monumentally as the Interracial Homicide figures at the SECRETS blog do, then there will will no longer be a need for sites like I AM AN ENGLISHMAN.

Such sites were created, one supposes, to redress, fractionally, the anti-Brit propaganda bias demonstrated so blatantly in recent times by our treacherous media and political elite.

SECRETS: http://ironwand.blogspot.com/

Interracial Homicide Statistics: http://airstrip4.blogspot.com/2010/03/interracial-homicide-statistics.html

As regards the PC Crowd's constant repetition of the "racist" mantra, it may interest some to know that the first known use of this word appears in the 1930 tract "The History of the Russian Revolution". This was penned by none other than the mass-murdering Russian revolutionary, Leon Trotsky. (Lev Bronstein)

http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1930/hrr/ch01.htm

Trotsky was, of course, Jewish.

As were so many who imposed that dreadful event, and its ghastly seventy year aftermath, upon the masses.

Trotsky's use of the Russian word, "расистов", (Latin = "racistov") was translated by US author, Max Eastman, as “racists” in 1932.

The term "racialism", which was not pejorative, was coined in 1907.

When the Russian Revolution's brute Marxist message failed to gain ground elsewhere in the world, Cultural Marxism (political correctness) was born.

The Frankfurt School was established in 1923 to propagate this anti-human ideology.
The most influential of these Cultural Marxists were, surprise, surprise, almost all Jewish.

Check it out here:

http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?iCategoryId=1127&iParentId=1097



Ah.

How soon do the PC Crowd reach for the big box of indigenous insult when a Brit sticks up for his own.

Thomas Hamilton, and his elite fellows, are given a bit of a going over at the I AM AN ENGLISHMAN site, here:

http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?page=3&iCategoryId=189&iParentId=182

The general point I made earlier in this post applies to Sutcliffe and Hamilton.

The mainstream media and the politicians, rightly, went to town on such grotesques. Thus, there was never a need for an expose of their criminal behaviours at a site like IAAE. The Dunblane matter appears at the site because of the murky details that the politicians have been at pains to keep from the public.

Where "murky detail" suits the PC Crowd, it gets published. Too often, when it doesn't suit, it doesn't get published. IAAE and similar sites attempt to redress the "balance" a little. Which those who routinely make use of the "racist", "Fascist", deeply Trotskyist "hate-speech" b*llocks, don't much like.

I wonder, as regards the "white" degenerate, CP, would you string up the Hamiltons and the Sutcliffes? I know the UAF type is bit squeamish about such things. It's OK to get all foam-flecked, spittal drenched and slaughterous when confronting the odd BNP type en masse, but when it comes to the not-necessarily-racist mass murderer, well, don't we have to pity and understand such folk?

According to accepted PC wisdom?

I'd be rid of the Sutcliffes and Hamiltons, CP. I'd string the f***ers up. Along with a goodly proportion of the monsters in Rogues Gallery.

Trotsky, Marx (also Jewish) and the Cultural Marxists would be proud of you, CP.

I don't think they'd have much time for me.
I'm reading through the links now, thanks.


Also, Eternal Spirit... is your hatred against muslims that strong that you need to come on here and moan at people for not posting stories about muslim sex offenders? Reign it in please, it's getting embarrassing. :(
My last post was about Muslims and none Muslims.


It's hypocrisy and double standards (post about white perverts that's kosher and not racist - post about none whites that's racist)
Simple concept.


Why should I like Islam with their pedo prophet and child brides, genital mutilations, and temporary bride contracts (which is used as semantics but is really prostitution)

Their views on beardless boys as legal pedophilia, yet death can be the punishment for two adult male homo sexuals.

nofuture
25-09-2010, 12:51 AM
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/kra/img/060721kralis.jpg

Another major problem / industry that needs more exposure.

strongbow
25-09-2010, 09:51 AM
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/kra/img/060721kralis.jpg

Another major problem / industry that needs more exposure.

I guess it would be up to the ordinary Thai to decide whether it was a problem.

Perhaps some would be happier with the money the sex tourist brings in than his enforced absence but, as for exposing the seedy old geezers who indulge in such behaviours back here, why not?

Of course, you'd have to "expose" the seedy old ladies who holiday in the West Indies at the same time.

Just to be fair.

eternal_spirit
25-09-2010, 09:58 AM
If they didn't prostitute their own children to foreigners (often legally - laws made by their own people) or practices considered above the law by their own people/race, then there would be no sex tourism.
The age of concent is also relevant, it may well be lower in these countries.

If they are prostituting their own children to their fellow countrymen, then why make an issue if some whiteys go there and do the same?
Oh I see it's a racist thang of course silly me.:rolleyes:
Sicko Muslims force pimp white English school girls in England. (illegal).

nofuture
25-09-2010, 10:02 AM
Google 'paedophile' click Images.

Whitey all the way :D

eternal_spirit
25-09-2010, 10:04 AM
Google 'paedophile' click Images.

Whitey all the way :D
The age of consent is relevant.
girls aged 10 and 11 are married in some Muslim countries and elsewhere, yet that's not considered paedophilia, comprehendo.:)

Also consider the fact that age of consent was only introduced fairly recently in some countries -previously there was no legal age. Why was it introduced? Due to "white western" humanitarian pressure groups on foreign Govs. Same as FGM with help from some native women who are against such practices.

nofuture
25-09-2010, 10:08 AM
Holland:

Consensual sexual relations between adolescents who are close in age are not punished: sexual acts between persons who have reached the age of 12 years are widely tolerated by the courts and the Dutch Public Prosecution Service if the difference in age between the two partners isn't too great.

Get to it Geert. :o

eternal_spirit
25-09-2010, 10:14 AM
Grooming Ignored In Britain- “Loverboys” Ignored In Holland_Both Damaging Young Girls!!

June 18, 2009 · Leave a Comment (http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/grooming-ignored-in-britain-loverboys-ignored-in-holland_both-damaging-young-girls/#comments)

Wednesday, 17 June 2009
Victims of ‘Loverboys’ Ignored in Holland (http://thelambethwalk.blogspot.com/2009/06/victims-of-loverboys-ignored-in-holland.html)


The word ‘Loverboy’ sounds rather amusing to the English ear, but in the Netherlands it is used to describe a phenomenon which is far from amusing; in fact it is about as sinister as it gets. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kIjrfODffSA/SjjgkZuL5LI/AAAAAAAABCo/e-qhFqtxXio/s320/Loverboy.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kIjrfODffSA/SjjgkZuL5LI/AAAAAAAABCo/e-qhFqtxXio/s1600-h/Loverboy.jpg)
‘Loverboy’ is the term appropriated by the Dutch language to refer to a pimp. Not just any old pimp; the Loverboy is a younger man, often Moroccan or Turkish, who locates a suitable younger female, often ethnic Dutch.
Preferably the girl will have low self esteem and come from a certain type of background; broken home, alcoholic parents, bullied at school, no friends. Sometimes she will be a middle class runaway or a girl ‘bored’ of her parents and her life.
The Loverboy befriends her with flattery and extravagant gifts. He tells her he is her boyfriend, he loves her and he is the only one that really does. Gradually, he takes over her whole life, isolating her from any friends or family she has remaining, persuading her that school is a pointless waste of time.
When she has no facets of her old life and personality left, when she is uniquely vulnerable and she is completely reliant on him, fully under his control, it will become apparent that he wants to be ‘paid back’ for all the things he has done for her.
She must pay him back by selling herself into prostitution and passing the profits on to him. He will use charm or blackmail to get his way at first, but later threats and violence. At this point, the relationship has changed – the Loverboy is no longer wearing his caring boyfriend mask. This girl is simply a piece of his property, and it is likely he owns many others.
She has nowhere else to turn – he may have gotten her addicted to drugs and convinced her that no one from her family or her old life would want to know her now even if she found her way back.
If she objects to this treatment, she will be met with extreme violence, which can include disfigurement and punishment gang-rapes.

Apparently, there are such girls working as prostitutes in all major Dutch and Belgian cities. Some have been found as far away as Paris.
One of the most disturbing aspects is that some of these girls are only 12 or 13.
The Dutch Socialist Party (ROOD) has called for (http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/victims-%E2%80%9Cloverboys%E2%80%9D-not-taken-seriously-dutch-police) these crimes to be taken far more seriously than they currently are. The party’s youth wing conducted a series of interviews with twenty one girls who were between 12 and 24 when their ‘boyfriends’ forced them into prostitution.
It found that many had tried to seek help from the police but had been turned away:
ROOD mainly asked questions about victims’ experiences with reporting the crime and victims’ trust in the police. The stories are upsetting and the way the police deals with victims can also be horrible, says ROOD. Victims who have the courage to report the crime are often not taken seriously and are sent away. “I reported my case six times at different police stations. I was sent away every time,” says one of the girls who was interviewed.
The suggestions also include special training for police officers so they are more receptive to the girls’ complaints.
Shockingly, one of the only mainstream interpretations of this terrible, seedy business is the Dutch TV film ‘Loverboy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349752/)‘, made in 2003.
From what I can gather, this film is a propaganda whitewash, in which the Moroccan pimp (Dragan Bakema (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0048182/)) falls in love with the Dutch girl (Monique van der Werff (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1191613/)) he is manipulating and selling, and tries to protect her from the worst aspects of the business. The extreme and often brutal violence these men use on the women they ‘own’ is totally ignored, as is the roots of this problem.

The comments on the IMDB entry suggest that this is a fairly common phenomenon in the Netherlands – but one woman, claiming to be a social worker, says she uses this fairytale nonsense to warn her younger charges about Loverboys.
Some take a more practical approach:

In May 2009, Dutch writer and victim of a loverboy Maria Mosterd claimed 74,000 euros in compensation from the Thorbecke school, her former high school in Zwolle, in the north west of the Netherlands. Ms Mosterd says that the school failed to provide a safe learning environment and ignored her frequent absences.

In 2008 Maria Mosterd, who detests the euphemistic word ‘loverboy’, wrote the book ‘Real men don’t eat cheese’ in which she describes how at the age of twelve she was captured by a loverboy and the subsequent struggle to cut herself loose from him. In April 2009 she wrote ‘Bindi’ a follow up to her debut which describes how she is coping after four years of being captive to a loverboy.
The fact of the matter is, this is largely a Muslim phenomenon. Not pimping in general – but the very specific kind where Muslim men prey almost exclusively on women who are not Muslim. A bit like the old harem system, but this time for the commoners. Wherever you find large concentrations (http://dharmaveer.blogspot.com/2009/03/love-jihad-in-kerala.html) of Muslim men and infidel women, cases like this begin to crop up with alarming frequency.
The guide to spotting a Loverboy strangely leaves that factor out:
The municipal health service in the Gooi and Vechtstreek specifies what could be signs that a girl is a victim. Among those listed are; frequently running away, low self esteem, behaving like an adult in a sexual manner, absence from school and getting expensive presents. The website also helps girls to recognise loverboys. It lists questions that ask whether he has expensive things, deals in drugs or weapons or talks negatively about the victims close friends.

We have our own version (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece) of this in Britain, which mainly occurs in the North of England. The pimps are largely Pakistani, and they prey mostly on white girls; there have been cases of Sikh and Hindu victims, however.

As in the Netherlands, our mainstream media wishes to largely ignore such things until such a point as they simply cannot be ignored any more. A Channel Four documentary on the subject was pulled on the premise that it might ‘fuel racial tensions’ – obviously selling our young women into sexual slavery does not, but pointing it out just might.
The mother of one such young victim said the following when talking of lack of police interest in the case:
“I was told by one police officer that he did not ‘want to start a race riot’ by arresting Pakistani men for sexual offences.”
The Times reports (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece):
Blackburn, in common with many northern towns, is experiencing a huge upsurge in pimping, and it is an unpalatable truth for the authorities – and indeed the police – that many of the newest wave of pimps come from within the Asian community. Research, conducted in 2005 and involving 106 families seeking help from the Leeds-based campaigning organisation Coalition for the Removal of Pimping (Crop), found that in Yorkshire alone more than 30 girls were sexually exploited, with some being forced into prostitution, by what Crop says are predominantly Asian networks. As many as 200 families have gone to the organisation for advice.
As well as the manipulation and exploitation, there are other sinister aspects. Many of the pimps posing as boyfriends tried to erode the girls’ English identities:
“All of a sudden Sally was only interested in hanging out with Pakistani boys,” says Jean. “She started saying I was racist, and that is why I objected to her hanging out with them.”
Jean was soon to find out just how indoctrinated her daughter had become when she discovered Sally’s photographs and profile were posted on a website. She was posing with the flag of Pakistan. There were 97 names of Asian men posted on it who had made contact with her. She was asking for Asian men to “date”. She said she hated white people. There were other girls’ photographs on the site, one of whom Sally had recruited, as were other girls who were being pimped. Jean’s boyfriend went online, pretending to be a girl. One of the men asked: “Are you better than Sally?”
Preying on her shyness and vulnerability, the pimps told Sally she was beautiful and would be treated like a princess if she showed them loyalty. They also convinced her that her family did not care about her, saying her parents would think she was a “slag” for having Pakistani boyfriends.
The pimps are adept at trading on teenage rebellion and use similar methods, according to Crop, of convincing the girls all white people are racist. This is part of the controlling process, to instil guilt in the girls. “Like most teenagers, I was going through a phase of arguing with my mum,” says Gemma. “Amir told me they didn’t understand me and were racist and ignorant. I believed him.”
Gemma was given an Asian name by Amir, and told she had to read the Koran, a story support workers tell me is not uncommon. “They erode the girls’ identities,” says Kosaraju, “to make them more compliant and needy.”
I don’t know if that particular situation is the same in the Netherlands; but it seems a large part of this is due to white girls growing up listless, unaware of their own history, their own culture, the achievements of their own nation, desperate to fit in with what is seen as new and ‘cool’.
The fact is it is not just poor girls or girls who don’t fit in who are susceptible to these dangers; I think any honest education programme must make very clear that all non-Muslim women should watch out for all advances from Muslim men.
But perhaps that is good advice generally.

MORE JOYS OF DIVERSITY GIVEN TO US BY CORRUPT POLITICIANS FROM THE USA-FRANCE-GERMANY – HOLLAND AND UK..
http://thelambethwalk.blogspot.com/ WHAT WAS THAT BLAIR KEPT TELLING US?

http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009...g-young-girls/ (http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/grooming-ignored-in-britain-loverboys-ignored-in-holland_both-damaging-young-girls/)

ms hope
28-09-2010, 05:23 PM
Jail term for paedophile doctor

A doctor who tried to lure two young girls into his car because he wanted to have sex with them has been jailed for at least four years.

Leslie Mitchell, 57, approached the girls - aged 10 and 11 - as they were returning home from school.

The casualty doctor, from Falkirk, was also placed under a lifelong restriction order.

At the High Court in Edinburgh, judge Lord Hardie said this meant he may never be released from prison.

Any future decision to release Mitchell would depend on the authorities, who will assess the risk he poses "as time goes by", said the judge.
Lord Hardie ordered that the former Stirling Royal Infirmary emergency medicine specialist should serve a minimum period of four years in jail before he becomes eligible to seek release.

First offender Mitchell had earlier admitted committing a breach of the peace by engaging the children in conversation, seeking their consent to handle their legs and attempting to entice them into a car on 13 January in Carronshore.

He pled guilty to the offence at Falkirk Sheriff Court but was sent to the High Court because of its greater powers of sentence.

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It was not so much what actually happened in this case, but what might have happened”

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Lord Hardie said: "The terms of the charge really don't do justice to what was actually happening in this case.
"It became clear that your clear intention was to ingratiate yourself with these two little girls, ultimately to take them away and have sexual intercourse with them."

The judge said Mitchell had sought out the children after previously coming across them near the school they attended when they were looking for money they had lost.

Previous offences

"About three months after that, you went out looking for them deliberately and you found them. It was not so much what actually happened in this case, but what might have happened," he said.
Mitchell has been suspended from work as a doctor by the General Medical Council and faces disciplinary proceedings.

Lord Hardie told him: "It is clear your professional career, on any view, is over."

The court heard at an earlier hearing Mitchell had admitted to a social worker that he had a long term sexual interest in young girls and revealed previous offending against victims of a similar age in England.
He also disclosed he accessed images of child sexual abuse on the internet and used chatrooms to contact youngsters with a view to grooming them.
Mitchell's solicitor advocate Bill McVicar said: "He has acknowledged a need for help with what he readily perceives as a problem."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-11419833

carlperkins
28-09-2010, 07:32 PM
Ms Hope, do you have any idea when the website will open? It still seems to be under construction:

http://chris-uk.org/index2.html

houseowner
05-10-2010, 08:15 AM
http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/artikel/5044/pedo-justitie-stort-compleet-in.html
magistrate in court for childporn.

Same happened years ago in Trallee Ireland.

http://www.klokkenluideronline.nl/artikel/755/affaire-joris-demmink-het-feitenoverzicht.html
Head of the ministry of justice in court on 4 cases of childrape

youtube iamnotanumbernr1
children from Ireland ordered and delivered on a plate to pedo's by the state of the netherlands

http://childslaves.blogspot.com
European children taken from their parents made to work 18 hours a day or no food... in Europe! (no pay, no school and from the age of 6)

copland
05-10-2010, 09:24 PM
Ms Hope, do you have any idea when the website will open? It still seems to be under construction:

http://chris-uk.org/index2.html

Doesn't look like ten grands worth of site to me!
:rolleyes:

Has anyone got the list? Or his old facebook address from their browser history?

copland
05-10-2010, 09:39 PM
£200 ($300) a year dedicated (http://mediatemple.net/webhosting/ve/pricing.php) with his host.

Did he pay fifty years in advance or something?

How long does he think his jail sentence is going to be (for crimes he's already been cleared of), and does he think his hosts going to be around long enough to keep him up for that long?

ms hope
05-10-2010, 10:04 PM
I am sure this little lot will feature somewhere amongst the named & shamed :mad:

How many more elected members, or MP's and others in position of power over children's lives etc will come out of the woodwork I wonder ?:eek:

Paedophilia - ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE

http://eotp.org/tag/paedophilia/

ms hope
22-10-2010, 08:11 PM
Former PE teacher jailed for Scarborough child abuse

A former PE teacher who abused young girls in North Yorkshire more than 30 years ago has been jailed.

Keith Fletcher abused four girls under the age of 16 between 1975 and 1984 when he was a "highly regarded" teacher and coach, York Crown Court heard.
He pleaded guilty to offences of gross indecency, indecent assault and attempting to commit a serious sexual offence.

Fletcher, 57, from Scarborough, was jailed for two years and nine months.
He was also ordered to sign the sex offenders' register and was placed on a Sexual Offences Prevention Order which severely restricts his contact with young women.
The prosecution said Fletcher was flattered by the attention he received from the teenage girls as a newly-qualified teacher who was "young and handsome".

The court was told he would take the girls back to his flat and abuse them for his own sexual gratification.
Three of the girls were pupils at the Scarborough secondary school where he was employed, although he never taught any of them.
He was sacked when the allegations came to light.

Women 'traumatised'

Judge Christopher Batty said it was a "sad day" to see Fletcher in the dock, as he was a "highly regarded member of the community, very impressive sports coach and someone in the community loved very dearly".
He told him: "You did not give a jot about these girls, who were young, naive, they were simply impressionable.

"As a teacher, even a 22-year-old, you had responsibilities for the welfare of your pupils and the welfare of children generally.
"You had your own desires and they came first. You abused your position of trust and you offended time and time again."
The court was told the abuse had left the women feeling "significantly traumatised", they had suffered from emotional and mental problems and one of them self-harmed.

In mitigation, Simon Reevell said: "He did not stop and appreciate he was older, he was an adult.
"He behaved with them as if they were his age. It was an inability to realise this. It was entirely inappropriate because of their age."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-11607485

ms hope
25-10-2010, 12:54 AM
East Sussex sex abuse fear vicars allowed to work

Two vicars were allowed to work at churches in East Sussex following serious sex abuse allegations, a BBC South East investigation has revealed.
Roy Cotton, who died in 2006, worked as a parish priest in Brede near Rye in the 1990s despite being convicted of a sexual offence against a boy in 1954.
Collin Pritchard served as the vicar of St Barnabas, Bexhill, until 2007 after being arrested over sex abuse claims.

The Diocese of Chichester has appointed a judge to carry out an investigation.:rolleyes:

In 2008 Pritchard pleaded guilty to sexually abusing two boys in the 1970s and 1980s and was jailed for five years.
The offences took place while he was parish priest at St Andrew's Church in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire.

The court heard that Cotton had been involved in the offences but died in 2006, two weeks before Pritchard was arrested.
Pritchard and Cotton first came to the attention of Sussex Police in 1997 after two abuse victims came forward.
The victims said they were sexually abused by the pair during foreign holidays and camping trips.

Insufficient evidence

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) decided there was not enough evidence against them but kept its files open.

The Diocese of Chichester has confirmed the pair were given permission to officiate by different bishops despite their arrests and Cotton's previous conviction, which lay on his church career file.

Cotton continued to serve as a parish priest until 1999 and Pritchard worked at St Barnabas between 2001 and 2007, both apparently without supervision.
In 2006 Northampton Police started a fresh investigation after another victim told police they had been abused.

Pritchard was suspended in September 2007 when a new safeguarding officer at the diocese realised he was a risk to children.

Pete Saunders, of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood (NAPAC), said: "I think they are more than safeguarding errors, there seems to have been an almost malicious and deliberate attempt to bypass the safeguarding measures that exist."

Referring to Cotton, child protection expert Chris Mills said: "People with serious convictions should never be allowed to work with children in any unsupervised capacity.

"At the time in 1997 it is clear that this person needs to have been suspended pending the outcome of an investigation but also pending the outcome of the employer's own investigation into whether this person was suitable to continue working with children."

Following Pritchard's conviction in 2008 the current Bishop of Chichester commissioned an independent investigation into the cases of the two men.
Despite requests by BBC South East Today the Diocese of Chichester has refused to release the document.

The churches' safeguarding expert told BBC South East a second investigation had been started because of "issues" with the findings of the first report.

Archdeacon of Hastings and Lewes, the Venerable Philip Jones said: "The Diocese of Chichester gives the protection of children the highest priority and takes seriously all concerns raised. :rolleyes:

"As we have indicated to the BBC, a review is being undertaken into safeguarding practice in the diocese and in regard to questions raised by this BBC report.

"We do not wish to pre-empt the outcome of that review and are unable to comment until it is completed."

The discovery also comes after it was revealed that East Sussex vicar Ronald Glazebrook, who is believed to have abused a former altar boy, was allowed to serve at a church despite being convicted of possessing a gun.
The Church of England said it would begin an investigation into the matter, following the revelations in September about Mr Glazebrook who died in 2001 after he was attacked at his home in East Sussex.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-11599687

elpressiedente
25-10-2010, 02:43 AM
this idea of shaming an alledged sex offender is soooo fucked up....

you have any idea the number of men who are accused of sex offences by women who dont want their children to be visited by their father???

once you create an open gate .... you really have no idea what is going to go through it....

its amazing the number of 20 and 30 year old allegations and claims being made today...

thats because theres a victims compensation fund...

scream abuse at a priest 20 years later and wow, you get paid.... may arse was touched... how much is it worth today?

cant have a statute of limitations because females can suffer mental anguish for decades before cashing in..... worth more money that way... make claims they cant have an orgasm because of it and the $$'s goes up.

there has to be a better way to expose these claims other than claiming to be a victim...

a real man would go to church every sunday and preach the truth on the lawn.... or shut the fuck up

mycharona
25-10-2010, 02:53 AM
Keep in mind the perpetrators were most likely victims themselves. In such cases, shaming is pointless; you must get to the root cause of their behavior; trauma and the normalization of abuse.

copland
26-10-2010, 05:09 AM
I've added a report a sex offender (http://www.seancopland.com/report_a_sex_offender.html?id=icke) feature to my script. Well over two months is a long time to wait for Chris's site. Feel free to add any monsters you come across!

its amazing the number of 20 and 30 year old allegations and claims being made today...

thats because theres a victims compensation fund...


They're best off slipping up in a supermarket or tripping on a pavement, and suing the shop/council. Victims of crime always get less compensation than accident claims for similar injuries.

Also, in order to claim criminal injuries, you have to file the claim within two or three years of the crime.

Keep in mind the perpetrators were most likely victims themselves.

Doesn't change the fact that they're a threat to innocent members of the public, in which case they should be locked up.

Most dangerous dogs are victims of animal abuse. It doesn't stop them getting put down!

hadaka_jimmy
26-10-2010, 07:54 AM
maiming people because their a pediatrician

Urban myth.

ms hope
27-10-2010, 03:34 AM
World's Creepiest Fairytale Tells Story of Child Sexual Exploitation


http://humantrafficking.change.org/blog/view/worlds_creepiest_fairytale_tells_story_of_child_se xual_exploitation

mycharona
27-10-2010, 03:49 AM
Is every catholic priest on the planet on the list?

ms hope
03-11-2010, 05:29 PM
Vicar guilty of kid porn charges


A MARRIED vicar has been ordered to register as a sex offender today after he was convicted of repeatedly viewing sick child porn online.
Pervert Rev Dominic Stone was found guilty of 16 charges of making indecent photographs of children.

Jurors at Stafford Crown Court took around three-and-a-half hours to unanimously convict the 47-year-old dad, whose computer was found to contain around 600 illegal pictures of children.

Stone will be sentenced in December and was granted unconditional bail.
The clergyman from Staffordshire was suspended in January 2009 from his post as team vicar for the Church of England parishes of Marchington, Marchington Woodlands, Kingstone and Leigh.

He told the court someone else may have used his computer to access the vile images on January 7 and 8, 2009, while he was not at the vicarage.
But prosecutor Michelle Heeley said Stone, whose wife was at work, was the only person with access to the computer and evidence showed he used it for "legitimate purposes" at around the time the images of children were downloaded.

Ms Heeley told jurors: "Whoever was looking at these [images] didn't just accidentally stumble across them they saw the image and they looked at it again.

"There was nobody else at the vicarage at that time that could have physically accessed that computer."
In police interviews, the court heard, the vicar suggested someone else may have had a key for the vicarage or that the computer may have been infected by a virus.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3210417/Vicar-guilty-of-kid-porn-charges.html

jiffy
03-11-2010, 08:51 PM
Urban myth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1353904/Paediatrician-attack-People-dont-want-no-paedophiles-here.html

No just some of the Indigenous "white" English folk that make this country so great....now if only we could get rid of all those "darkies" (sarcasm)

ms hope
04-11-2010, 08:25 PM
'I've been attacked over my paedophile crusade'

A MAN who has launched a crusade to name and shame paedophiles on the internet has received death threats and been attacked several times in the city.

Chris Wittwer told the Echo he has been attacked three times in Exeter by people he has put on the site and says he has received threats to his life.
He said he was constantly concerned for his safety after launching his internet campaign.

"Three people have attacked me in the last few months directly as a result of names I have put on there," he said. "They are on the sex offenders register and live in Exeter."

Mr Wittwer says he includes people who have been charged on the list but not yet convicted for an offence.

But he said that he did not want to wrongly put anyone on the list.
Mr Wittwer has set up a database of around 6,000 convicted sex offenders and paedophiles.

He said he compiles the list, which includes photographs and where the offenders live, from press releases, court records and the sex offenders register.

Mr Wittwer, who lives in the Exeter area and used to run the Royal Oak pub in Exminster, said he has ways of accessing the sex offenders register and court records which are not available to members of the public.
He would not reveal how but said he had secret sources — and has another 8,000 names to go on the site.

"I get lots of names and find out which court they were at," he said.
He set-up the page two-and-a-half years ago and has 6,000 people on it from all over the country.

He spends three or four hours a day doing it and is currently setting up a dedicated website.

Mr Wittwer, 34, claimed the government does not do enough to inform people about sex offenders living in the community.
"I don't condone any violence," he said. "I am not a vigilante.

"People can see who is in their area and keep their children away from them. There is more justice served by what I am doing than any court or jail can ever do.

"What I am doing is a serious deterrent for people who have done it, are thinking of doing it or re-offending.

http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/ve-attacked-paedophile-crusade/article-2110061-detail/article.html

ms hope
05-11-2010, 02:30 AM
Teacher jailed for child abuse facing a £100,000 claim

A child sex predator who was jailed for seven years could now be faced with having to find a massive compensation payout.
James Braid, a former teacher at Bay House School, Gosport, was sent to prison after being found guilty of repeatedly abusing his underage pupils over 24 years.

Now one of his victims has launched a court case which could see him lose his home and possessions as well as his liberty.

The victim, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has lodged a claim in the High Court in London for up to £100,000 for the trauma Braid caused.

Alan Collins, solicitor at law firm Verisona, based at 1000 Lakeside, North Harbour, is pursuing the case against Braid.

Mr Collins said: 'The claim is being brought because the victim wants justice.

'His adult life, teenage years and childhood have been adversely affected.

'He's suffered, and the only remedy available is compensation.

'He's suffered a great wrong - and that needs to be put right.'

Documents lodged with the court reveal the victim, now in his 40s, has suffered from psychiatric difficulties, low confidence and an alcohol problem as a result of Braid's assaults.

It says the abuse was more extensive than the 'limited matters' which were dealt with at Braid's trial, and he still needs treatment.

The documents claim the victim's earning power was harmed because the abuse disrupted his education.

And chillingly, they also state Braid emotionally blackmailed his victim into silence by threatening to commit suicide if it was revealed.

Braid, 58 at the time he was jailed in February this year, was sentenced to seven years in prison at Portsmouth Crown Court.

At the time, Judge Ian Pearson branded the Gosport man a 'deceitful, predatory paedophile'.

He was convicted of abusing four pupils, but at the time of the trial other victims came forward to police.

The former Bay House pupil taking the compensation case is among those who came forward at the time of the trial.

As well as sending Braid to jail, the judge also ordered him to pay £31,300 in legal costs.

But this latest court case could put that figure in the shade.

Mr Collins said: 'If it is resolved in the claimant's favour, then he will have to find the money.

'It's possible Braid would say he didn't cause any damage. I suspect he won't be foolish enough to try that.

'I'd have thought our chances are very good in the circumstances.'

He added that many such victims do not come forward to claim compensation, simply because they do not know they can.

No date has yet been set for the case to be heard.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Teacher-jailed-for-child-abuse.6612760.jp

ms hope
05-11-2010, 04:47 PM
Paedophile jailed after 25 years of child sex abuse

A paedophile who abused a young boy while his alcoholic mother drank in a pub has been jailed for eight years.

Graham Glennie, 51, also built up a massive collection of thousands of pornographic images of children, Peterborough Crown Court was told.
He was persuaded to hand himself in to the police by his landlady after the “disgusting” pictures of children were found by a friend who was repairing Glennie’s laptop computer.

Glennie, of no fixed address, but who was staying in St Ives, admitted 16 offences of making indecent images of children and a further nine offences involving indecency.

Judge Neil McKittrick told Glennie: “The offences represent offending behaviour against children going back 25 years.

“I have decided that you do represent a significant risk of serious harm to the public.” Judge McKittrick banned Glennie from working with children indefinitely and also put him on the sex offenders’ register indefinitely.
A sexual offences prevention order, which restricts Glennie’s future access to children and computer equipment, was made, along with an order to confiscate and destroy his computers.

Sally Hobson, prosecuting, said Glennie had returned to St Ives after living in Turkey for three years and had been staying with a friend.
He asked the friend if she knew of anyone who could repair his computer and the images of child pornography were found by the repairer, who called in Glennie’s landlady.

Miss Hobson said: “She was so disgusted by what she had seen she could not look at anything else and decided to confront the defendant.”
She said that in 1998 Glennie had befriended a woman at a pub in St Ives and invited her son, who was aged about 8, back to his flat in the town while she drank. He indecently assaulted the boy over a period of about four months.

Miss Hobson said that Glennie had indecently assaulted two girls and while he was in Turkey had also indecently assaulted boys and had taken pictures of them.

More than 60,000 pornographic images were found on Glennie’s computer, nearly 6,000 of which were child pornography.
Claire Matthews, defending, said Glennie was a man of previous good character.

“He made full and candid admissions from the outset. It was something of a relief to find himself in court,” she said.

Miss Matthews said Glennie had served in the RAF for 13 years and had profound hearing loss as a result of working with aircraft. He had also suffered a severe stroke, which had left him partially paralysed.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Paedophile-jailed-after-25-years-of-child-sex-abuse.htm

pennydrop
05-11-2010, 04:55 PM
I've searched for 'govteen' on this site and got no search results. I was looking for 'aloe vera being banned' articles on a Google search engine and came across Govteen.com ...

Does anyone know about this site? I feel quite sick at the information being freely given on this open forum by teenagers.

Have I become paranoid?

ms hope
06-11-2010, 05:25 PM
Crown Office steps in to stop paedophile walking free

Sheriff in spat with fiscal over child porn

The Crown Office was forced to step in last night to prevent a paedophile walking free after a newly-appointed district procurator fiscal refused to allow a sheriff to see evidence of child pornography.

Andrew Richardson, who only took up his role for Aberdeen and Stonehaven late last month, refused to let Sheriff Annella Cowan see the pictures because he said he would be committing an offence if he did so.
Steven Murray, 31, was due to be sentenced at Aberdeen Sheriff Court yesterday after admitting being in possession of indecent pictures of children last month.

Forensic officers found 29 indecent pictures on his computer and a four-hour video clip of children aged 8-14 being abused.
The police were called in to investigate after Murray’s “concerned” girlfriend discovered language of a sexual nature on his phone.

Murray admitted being in possession of the images at his Dyce home between July 1 and September 9, 2008, when he appeared in court in October. Sheriff Cowan asked to see a hard copy of the indecent images – as often happens in such cases – to help her decide on an appropriate sentence.

Mr Richardson offered to let her view the files on a laptop, but the sheriff insisted on seeing a hard copy.
But the fiscal refused her request – in case he committed a crime. Mr Richardson told Sheriff Cowan: “I can’t comply with that because that would create an offence.”

Sitting nervously in the dock, Murray looked on as a legal row broke out between the senior lawyer and the sheriff.

Mr Richardson, formerly the district procurator fiscal in Dumfries and Kirkcudbright, was sworn in to his new role as the lead area prosecutor late last month.

Announcing the appointment, Lord Advocate Elish Angiolini QC :rolleyes: said Mr Richardson had “helped develop” the Crown Office approach to prosecuting cases involving the possession and distribution of child abuse images.
But yesterday Sheriff Cowan implied that his stance could create problems within the court. She told him: “Your predecessor managed to comply with that request.

“If you take that line then never will a police officer be able to be handed drugs in this court. Not only that, if he passed it to me then he does it with intent to supply.”

She adjourned the case until the afternoon but was later informed by the new fiscal he had not changed his mind.
Sheriff Cowan referred Mr Richardson to the appeal court case of David Graham who admitted being in possession of child pornography at the High Court in Glasgow in August last year.

The ruling states sheriffs and judges would be given a better understanding of the nature of the case if they viewed a selection of the images involved. It further states that it is at the “discretion” of every judge whether to view samples of the evidence.

Sheriff Cowan adjour-ned the case for a week for the fiscal to reconsider his position and told him she still wanted to see hard copies of a sample of the images. And she warned: “I give warning now. I may preside no sentence. I may desert this indictment.”

Last night a spokes-woman for the Crown said Mr Richardson has now been instructed to provide Sheriff Cowan with a hard copy of the pictures. She said: “Crown counsel have considered the issue and have instructed the procurator fiscal to provide the material to the sheriff at the diet of deferred sentence in the format requested by the sheriff.”
Labour’s justice spokes-man and north-east MSP Richard Baker said: “It seems to me that this is a ludicrous and deeply-concerning situation, and we need to ask the Crown Office why this has taken place. It seems perfectly reasonable for the sheriff to see the images before sentencing.
“People will be appalled if the man, who has admitted the offence, is not appropriately punished.”

Tory justice committee convener Bill Aitken added: “Certainly the sheriff, if she is meant to be able to dispose of this matter, needs to see the evidence. This must have occurred before and I know that sheriffs in child porn cases have in the past been able to see pictures in order to decide the gravity of the matter.”

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1996348/?UserKey#ixzz14PwaelXR

ms hope
06-11-2010, 08:25 PM
Exeter paedophile quits store job

A CONVICTED paedophile has resigned from his job in a convenience store near an Exeter primary school after his identity was revealed on a website devoted to naming and shaming sex offenders.

Daniel Luckman, 27, was discovered working under an assumed name at the One Stop shop in Glasshouse Lane, Countess Wear, which is in the same road as Countess Wear Community School and Children’s Centre.
It is understood that Tesco, which owns the One Stop chain, had no idea he had been jailed for 15 months after he admitted running a website devoted to child pornography.

Last year Luckman, who was placed on the Sex Offenders’ Register after admitting five offences in 2003, was fired by bosses at the Tesco Metro store in Paignton after concealing his criminal past and failing to declare his convictions.

He apparently lied about his past once more to get the latest job.
A spokesman for Tesco confirmed that Luckman had been working at the Countess Wear shop, adding: “He’s resigned from the business. We took this very seriously and looked into it urgently.”

The spokesman would not confirm how long Luckman had worked at the store but it is thought to be around a fortnight.
Luckman was identified as the shopworker by members of a website group which aims to identify paedophiles living in Exeter.

If was set up by the former chef of the Royal Oak in Exminster, Chris Wittwer, who claims to have government information on sexual offenders in the city.

“I have only been at this for 36 hours and already we have found one of them,” he said.

“I posted pictures of him on the website and someone came forward and told me he was working at this shop, but under a different name.
“This was confirmed by several other people.
“I believe people need to know if they have paedophiles living on their doorstep.”

Despite Devon & Cornwall Constabulary asking Mr Wittwer to shut down the website he said he would continue with his campaign.
Detective Sergeant Heather Bell, of the Exeter child protection team, said: “Police are aware of an incident and are investigating what’s going on and being alleged.

“We work jointly with other partners to monitor and manage any risk posed by anyone who has committed violent sexual offences.
“We would not want any members of the public to get involved in any vigilante operation or take matters into their own hands.

“If anyone does have concerns about the safety of a child they should get in touch with the police.”

When police raided Luckman’s home before his 2003 conviction they discovered more than 3,000 indecent images, many ranked as the most serious type.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Exeter-paedophile-quits-store-job/article-1113187-detail/article.html

armoured_amazon
06-11-2010, 08:27 PM
This is what happens when you get thick people whipped up into the latest media led frenzy.

+1

ms hope
06-11-2010, 10:49 PM
Roger Took, a well respected man

Roger Took, a well respected man - YouTube

ms hope
07-11-2010, 09:48 PM
Roger Took, a well respected man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7mxq13BiCQ

Married to an upper-class paedophile: How members of the Establishment refused to accept my husband's depravity

The five-year-old girl cowers naked and crying in a corner. She is so frightened that she wets herself.

One of the men in the room hits her repeatedly. The others laugh.
Another man picks her up and throws her face down on the bed. Then the men rape her. She dies soon afterwards of her injuries.
I apologise for being so brutally explicit, but this is the scenario that the respected art historian and curator Roger Took boasted repeatedly about in internet 'chat rooms' to fellow paedophiles.
In the chat rooms, Took relates how a Dutch man bought the child in Cambodia, kept her for a week and how Took was part of the group who enjoyed raping her one night.

After Took was arrested last April, the police interviewed him in connection with the child's murder, but Took insisted it was mere fantasy and the police passed the case on to Interpol.
Fantasy it may be, but the fact that so many like-minded men laughed and fantasised over a helpless child's torture, terror and death is chilling and profoundly disturbing.

Took was a leading member of Britain's art Establishment and as I shall show later, what is perhaps most shocking of all is the way many of his distinguished colleagues appeared to excuse his behaviour, even bringing pressure on his wife, Pat, to hush the whole episode up.
Indeed, this is one of the reasons she has now decided to go public.
Roger Took was sentenced this February to a minimum of four-and-a-half years in prison as part of an indeterminate sentence for 17 other crimes relating to child abuse.

They included molesting two of his step-granddaughters and the possession of 260 photographs, including 102 'Level 5s', which mean they contain images of children being tortured or raped.
One photograph showed a baby being violated. Many images showed small children shackled to chairs or bars, in obvious pain.

The police recovered these images from Took's laptop.
There were, apparently, thousands more on his main computer, but the hard drive had broken and police experts were unable to retrieve them.
When police raided Took's home, they found a locked case containing a large bundle of photographs of naked young Russian women, believed to be prostitutes, one having sex with Took, and clippings of children's hair.
Also on Took's laptop were 742 chatroom logs of a sexual nature relating to children, adding up to more than 1,500 pages.

Took posed as 'Dad of 2 Superkids' in the chat rooms and, pretending they were his daughters, posted photographs of his step-granddaughters, Grace aged nine and Gillian aged 11, inviting others in the chat room to fantasise over the images.

Judge Blacksell, presiding over the sentencing hearing, referred to the chat logs as 'unrestrained filth and depravity of the worst type'.
Depravity exists and we are all aware that there are dangerous paedophiles at large.

However, what is remarkable about Took's case is that his respectability and status blinded some who knew him to the true horror of his crimes and, to an extent, protected him from the public outrage that normally follows the exposure of such appalling acts against children.
Took's sentencing was followed by one UK internet news report and a single paragraph in a side column of the Saturday Times.
Compare that with the enormous publicity and accompanying outcry following the return to Britain of the convicted paedophile Gary Glitter.
Glitter was very publicly slated, whereas Took's high profile as an art historian of note means that some are still unwilling or unable to believe the full extent of how dangerous he is.

After his conviction, one of his woman friends e-mailed Took's wife, Pat, saying: 'I choose God's way and I know He would forgive Roger.
'We have no right to judge and to destroy a person's life when he wants to live a different life.'

The woman clearly could not, or chose not to, grasp the destruction Took himself had wrought.
Pat has not seen her husband since he was arrested. The first she knew of his gruesome activities was when two policemen arrived at her home to inform her of his arrest.
At first she was in shocked denial, but once the evidence was shown to her, she accepted that she had been the victim of betrayal on an almost unbearable scale over 25 years.
I first met Pat five months ago. She is a gentle, intelligent, sensitive woman of 69.

She has money, taste and a considerable reputation as a painter.
She decided to tell me her story to make people aware of the harm Took has done to her family and what he is capable of doing to other children, should he be released from jail.
When Pat met Took 25 years ago, she was divorced from her first husband, by whom she had a son and two teenage daughters.
Took, her junior by seven years, charmed Pat and paid flattering attention to her daughters, particularly Jennifer who was 13 at the time.
Now Pat says wearily, but without a trace of self-pity: 'He married me for my money. And for my children.'

It was Pat's money that enabled Took to lead his double life, giving him a substantial Chelsea home as a base and all the attendant means and prosperous gloss to hide behind.
Pat's family noticed that Took liked teenage girls. They treated it as a bit of a joke, which they feel sick about in hindsight, but none of them ever imagined his passion was for small children.

Pat and the police now fear that as well as the two step-granddaughters he was found guilty of abusing, Took molested another granddaughter, Cathy, a mentally and physically disabled three-year-old whose legs previously had to be pinned back and apart in a brace, meaning she was unable to walk, let alone run away.

He certainly bragged about it in several chat rooms.
Though police interviewed Cathy, her mental disability made it impossible for her to deliver the reliable evidence they needed to press charges.
In her witness statement to the court, Cathy's mother, Jennifer, wrote of her daughter's third birthday party and how attentive Took had appeared to be, running errands and helping with the cake, while, in all probability, he had access to Cathy for long enough to rape or molest her.
'I will have to live with the uncertainty surrounding this for the rest of my life,' wrote Jennifer.

'The last year has been hell. My trust and view of the world has changed for ever - I can no longer leave my children in the care of other people without feeling suspicious of them.
'What remaining innocence I had is lost. I feel that under the surface of the world there is evil.'
Indeed, the long-term impact of Took's abuse cannot begin to be calculated.
I visited Detective Sergeant Kevin Hudson and Detective Constable Steve Dobson, the Child Protection Officers in charge of the case, at their Kensington headquarters.

I wanted to see the transcripts of Took's chat logs.
The five boxes of them, labelled RF Took, sat on the table between us like malicious toads in the child-friendly 'Family Room' that was furnished with cosy sofas in cheery hues and cuddly toys.
I only read a fraction of the material, but it was enough. I cried.
The police were sympathetic, offering tea and tissues - the transcripts had upset them too.

Both officers told me that their attitudes towards their home lives had been temporarily poisoned by having to wade through the Took pages.
Again and again, Took and like-minded men salivated and fantasised about raping, punishing, hurting and ultimately killing little girls.
DS Hudson said this was not a job anyone with a small child found bearable.
Their job is made harder by the fact that 'fantasy', however gruesome and violent, is not illegal and there is nothing anyone can do to close down the chat rooms.

They will be investigating 130 other paedophiles identified via internet links with Took. :mad:

Took recounted certain incidents, including the gang rape and murder of the Cambodian child and the abuse of disabled three-year-old Cathy, with such frequency and consistency that the police treated them as potential facts.
But they were unable to prove they were not fantasies and, despite their violence, Took received a sentence fairly in line with other paedophiles' sentences.

'No sentence ever reflects the life of trauma, hurt and anguish suffered by the victims,' says Hudson.
He and Dobson believe that Took is mainly without remorse, does not take full responsibility for his actions and so remains a grave danger to the public.
They should know - they interviewed him for a period of 14 hours over four months.
Roger Took was educated at Haileybury College, Sandhurst and the Courtauld Institute. He later became Director of the Barbican Art Gallery and then the founder of Artangel, now a hugely successful institution within the field of contemporary art.

His book about Russian Lapland, Running With Reindeer, was shortlisted for the Thomas Cook Travel Book Award and more recently he was achieving acclaim as an expert in the medieval Russian fur trade.
No one, including his wife, imagined Took was leading a double life, complete with different passport and false ID as Paul Schischka - creepily, his mother's maiden name was Paula Schischka.
Russia, with its lack of infrastructure for dealing with paedophiles, was the perfect country for Took to abuse children in.

One chat log related how he plied a prostitute with alcohol until she passed out so he could turn his attention to her nine-year-old daughter.
Describing with relish how terrified the little girl was as he began to twist her arm prior to raping her, I noticed the people with whom Took was 'chatting' using the acronym 'LOL'. DS Hudson told me that it meant 'laugh out loud'.
Then, in February last year, Took made his mistake. He joined Pat, her daughters Anne and Jennifer, and Pat's granddaughters on holiday in the Dominican Republic.

On the way to the airport after the holiday, Anne found $100 in her nine-year-old daughter Grace's luggage. Grace told her mother that Took, her step-grandfather, had paid her to pose for photographs.
Eventually she confessed that Took had been sexually abusing her for as long as she could remember. Anne called the police and Took was finally arrested at Luton airport last April.
Between February and April, Anne was told by the police not to say anything to Pat.

The police wanted to ensure they caught Took with incriminating evidence and it was essential not to alert him beforehand.
During that time Pat was distraught, imagining from her daughter's strange attitude on the telephone that she was having marital problems. Both Jennifer and Anne insisted I stress that this was, for them, the worst six weeks of their lives.

Judge Blacksell deemed Took to be enough of a danger to the public to give him an indeterminate sentence but, because the case was hardly reported, it was up to Pat to tell many of Took's acquaintances and friends about what had happened.
Mischa Naimark, a former colleague in Russia, who was collaborating on Took's next expedition, told Pat she should not go round publicising his arrest.

Instead she should be a 'good, tactful wife' and suggested she was 'jealous' of her 'younger rivals'.

It was as if Naimark was ticking her off for exaggerating while Took's impeccable social credentials and high-flying academic career served to cushion him from condemnation.
Ute Chatterjee, a woman who had been helping Took with research, was the membership and meeting secretary of the Great Britain-Russia Society.
When Took failed to arrive in Russia as planned to begin his expedition, she took it upon herself to lie on his behalf, phoning the other people involved to tell them he'd had an accident.

Later, she began asking Pat's friends in England and Ireland if they would receive letters or calls from Took.

Pat wrote to the president of the Society in an attempt to stop her. Like others, Chatterjee found Took's charm and academic reputation so plausible that she was happy to continue helping him.
Took is now appealing. Despite his indeterminate sentence, he will be eligible for parole in just three-and-a-half years, having already served nearly a year on remand.

DS Hudson is in no doubt that Took's addiction to small girls is 'progressive' and very dangerous.

Witness the way Took casually dismissed the harm he did to Grace, saying: 'Everything was all right there, there is no damage done.'
Despite this, Took still seems to have persuaded his supporters of his contrition and enthusiasm for treatment and rehabilitation.
Judge Blacksell was clearly appalled by Took's crimes, but he took 'into account' the 'large bundle of testimonials' that, according to Took's barrister, painted him as a 'gentle, kind, caring man who has enriched the lives of many over many years'.

In all there were 23 letters of support for Took and three character witnesses, on behalf of five people, who spoke at the hearing, including his older half-brother, John Michael Took, the Reverend Adrian Gabb-Jones and Matteos Los, a schoolfriend from a Greek shipping family.
Even when sentencing him, Judge Blacksell at times shied away from the evil of Took's mind by saying: 'I have no doubt at all that men such as yourself are ill, you suffer from an illness.'
He even suggested Took could 'exact some pity' from the person sentencing him.

DS Hudson was disappointed that the harrowing witness statements from Pat and her daughters did not appear to play a greater role in the sentencing process.

The impact of Pat and her family's own suffering seemed to have been neutralised by the impressive array of respectable friends and family members who wrote supportive letters or turned up to speak or wrote in Took's defence.

Pat's own witness statement was short, but all the more powerful for being so. She wrote: 'My sanity has been sorely tested. I live from day to day. His very clever, devious and artful betrayal of me, my family and friends for so many years is hard to come to terms with.
'The dreadful damage he has done to my darling granddaughters is heinous in the extreme.'
Ultimately it was precisely Took's respectability that enabled him to pursue his lusts for so long.

As Judge Blacksell said: 'You were not just anybody, Mr Took, you were the trusted adult, you preyed on them because it was your standing that allowed you to have access to them in the next-door room to where the parent was.'
Child abuse, like domestic abuse, happens behind the most expensive, salubrious of doors and we need to face up to this.

Took lived in a beautiful, spacious home in Chelsea, surrounded by paintings and books, and was able to blind those around him with the sheer weight of his glamour and assured social status.
Many paedophiles can. It is as if a man of intelligence and achievement cannot take the intellectual leap into such darkness. But he clearly can - and has.

It has been said often before, but it is time we stopped dismissing child abuse as something that happens on rough council estates.
If we are to learn anything from Took's case, it is surely that paedophiles are just as likely to be members of the Establishment in university lecture halls, art galleries, boardrooms, on private jets and at smart dinner parties.
The dictionary defines the Establishment as 'a group of people who hold power in a society and dominate its institutions'. As an Establishment member, Took abused that power appallingly.

If we continue to be too intimidated by the Establishment's imposing edifice to question what is beyond it, is it surprising if paedophiles thrive, unchecked and often unnoticed, in our midst?

• This article was written with the cooperation of Pat's family, but to protect the identity of individual family members, their names, though not Pat's, have been changed. Charlotte Metcalf, 2008.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1054110/How-members-Establishment-refused-accept-paedophile-husbands-depravity.html

ms hope
10-11-2010, 12:46 AM
The site is now up and running :)


http://www.chris-uk.org/

ms hope
10-11-2010, 06:51 PM
Chris - his story

Touched - YouTube

ms hope
13-11-2010, 03:22 AM
WORSE THAN COLDITZ
WORSE THAN COLDITZ - YouTube

ms hope
16-11-2010, 06:24 PM
Richard Gardner on Paedophilia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJH66C2j4A

ms hope
20-11-2010, 06:35 PM
What does your MP do for you? :rolleyes:

Going to your MP is something that people rarely do except when in some sort of trouble or are needing a voice for their campaign, so when Greg Mulholland MP for Leeds North West office was recently approached by this site we had a meeting in terms of a face to face interview in his office with his office manager, promising to get back within a week, well that was back in September.

We approached him in the mind of bringing to his attention some extremely unpleasant child stealing that is going on in Leeds by Social Services, whilst at the same time they are protecting peodophiles.

While speaking about this to his manager, she displayed some extremely uncomfortable body language, actually apologising at one point for her actions, which was very strange, given the topic in discussion.
Unfortunately we have been looking over at the Children Have Rights In Society website that names and shames the peodophiles in various areas, we found an article relating to the Leeds Constituency which Greg Mulholland MP is supposed to represent. In the article as the peodophile was being sentenced it does mention that letters were written on his behalf for the Court by Greg Mulholland MP - which is not only disturbing but highlights that this man is extremely dangerous and should not be in office, as either he is supporting peodophiles and their COMMON PURPOSE or he is simply incompetent.

We would like to hear from either Greg Mulholland or a representative of his with regard to this, as we would like to stand corrected on this issue.
Clearly these issues are in the public interest and people should be aware of the facts.

The article we refer to can be found here http://www.chris-uk.org/gulam-bobat/19352

http://socialservicehell.org/index.php/news/199-what-does-your-mp-do-for-you

ms hope
06-12-2010, 02:41 PM
Please don't release beast teacher, victims' families plead


A PAEDOPHILE teacher who abused boys for more than two decades could be out of jail within weeks.
Former scoutmaster and senior teacher Paul Firth has served just half his eight-year sentence.

But he has already applied for early release, and the parole board are set to hear his case early next year.

Firth was caged in 2006 after admitting a catalogue of sex crimes against children, committed between 1974 and 1986.
And the father of one of his victims said: "It beggars belief that anyone could even consider letting this beast out to roam free.
"Four years behind bars doesn't in any way compensate for countless victims over 22 years."

It took years to finally bring Firth to justice after he jumped bail and hid in Morocco, which has no extradition treaty with the UK. He was only caught after Daily Record investigators learned that he had sailed his yacht to Spain for repairs.

He was arrested and sent back to Scotland, where he appeared in court with a black eye and a bandaged face after a jail beating from cons sickened by his crimes.
One of the cops involved in the hunt for Firth said last night: "We didn't chase this man across Europe and bring him before the court to see him walk free after four years."

Child sex abuse campaign group Family Matters said Firth should not be freed unless it can be proved he is no longer a danger to kids.
"A spokesman said: "This individual is a prolific abuser who abused everyone's trust, not just his victims.

"To serve only four years of an eight-year sentence - which was not much in the first place - would be pathetic.
"We can only hope the parole board will take such views into account."
One of Firth's victims, who was 10 when he was abused, killed himself at the age of 26 after finally revealing how the pervert stole his childhood.
His furious mother said: "If I had a gun, I would shoot Firth myself for what he's done to us."

The grieving mother told how her family first met Firth through their church and trusted him completely.
She added: "He used to come to our house after taking our son on scout camps and we welcomed him in and gave him cups of tea.
"I now know all Firth was doing was making sure our son hadn't told us about what he had done to him."

It took years, and other victims to come forward, before Firth finally paid for his crimes.

. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2010/12/06/please-don-t-release-paedophile-teacher-victims-plead-86908-22764896/

ms hope
09-12-2010, 01:47 PM
'Loner' teacher, 29, jailed for having lesbian affair with 15-year-old pupil she contacted via internet chatroom

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336822/Louise-Yeoman-jailed-lesbian-affair-student-15-contacted-chatroom.html

wispa
09-12-2010, 05:32 PM
Great eh!

First sex offenders.. and then the rest of us.

Talk about conditioning.

I am not condoning sex offences, I am just pointing out what all of these is being used for.

ms hope
10-12-2010, 05:32 PM
The Sheer Scale of Child Sexual Abuse in Britain

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‘That course in Birmingham, in turn, is believed to have been lectured by Peter Righton, a notorious paedophile who attempted to legitimise his obsession in a series of academic studies. Righton, for his part, belonged to the Paedophile Information Exchange:rolleyes:, along with Jack Bennett who joined in the abuse at Greystone. Righton had earlier worked in the same childrens’ home in Maidstone, Kent as Peter Howarth, who went on to become a legendary abuser in the homes of North Wales where he shared his indulgence with Steve Norris, formerly of Greystone.’

http://www.nickdavies.net/1998/04/01/the-sheer-scale-of-child-sexual-abuse-in-britain/

THE PAEDOPHILE INFORMATION EXCHANGE
THE PAEDOPHILE INFORMATION EXCHANGE - YouTube

ms hope
04-01-2011, 09:19 PM
Scouting ~ More abuse than the church !

With the Vatican in the grips of a paedophilia scandal,as yet more clergymen are being exposed, I am now turning the spotlight on scouting, which is accused of keeping quiet about decades of alleged sexual aggression by its leaders against young boys. As you will see, it involves cover-ups, corruption,massive paedophile networks and leaves a unbearable amount of abuse in its wake.

Quite possibly this is bigger than the thousands of cases of child abuse / child sexual abuse that has hit the church worldwide. Estimated figures of abused children worldwide from scout groups is above half a million. With many children never coming forward and massive paedophile rings being formed.

This blog is about the thousands of children that have been systematically abused by scout leaders. Whilst I continue to profile convicted paedophiles on the website, I further look at instintutionalized paedophilia and target the areas which stand out with astonishing statistics. Scout groups plays a massive part within the child abuse network worldwide. As parents we need to trust those in a position who care and educate our children. Yet this seems to be the main factor for children suffering at the hands of abuse ~

“Trust”

Scouting sex abuse cases are situations where youth involved in Scouting programs have been sexually abused by someone who is also involved in the scouting program (an adult scout leader, or more rarely, a fellow scout).
Paedophiles often become Boy Scout leaders because they can have access to kids. But for most of them, it’s about (abusing) kids before puberty, and the gender of the child is less important. Research has shown that the group least likely to engage with sex with boys are open and out gay men.

In many institutions, especially those with rigid, clear lines of authority, there is a temptation to obsess over public image and perceived short term damage from scandal and litigation rather than focusing on real long-term solutions, and the most glaring example of that is the Catholic Church cover up of child sexual abuse.

Another cover-up ~ The Boy Scouts of America calls them the “perversion files.”

The stories locked inside a neat row of metal file cabinets at BSA headquarters in Irving would sicken the most callous reader. Many of them document the activities of a paedophile banned from Scouting for molesting boys in tents, on hikes or while helping them earn merit badges.
The BSA, the nation’s premier youth organization, its wholesome image honed by iconic Norman Rockwell paintings throughout the 20th century, has meticulously kept the files since the 1920s.

They number in the thousands, but no one knows much about them because Scout executives and their lawyers insist they remain confidential.
Now, a growing chorus of critics is calling on the Scouts to open their sexual secrets to public scrutiny. They argue that the files contain a treasure trove of misdeeds that academic researchers and law enforcement might use to learn more about man-on-boy paedophilia.

“These files represent the largest reservoir of information ever gathered on the sexual abuse of boys in the United States, bar none,” said Paul Mones, an Oregon lawyer who represents former Scouts who suffered sexual abuse at the hands of adult Scoutmasters. Scout groups in the USA are strongly linked to the mormon church.

Scouting related activities where sexual abuse had occurred
Records showed that abuse incidents were most likely to occur during campouts or while boys are sleeping over at the abuser’s home. Some of the traditions, situations and ploys that abusers had turned into conduits for sex are:

Campouts: “A skilled paedophile who can get children into a situation where they must change clothing or stay with him overnight will almost always succeed in seducing them” ~ Sexually related games , Misuse of authority and loyalty , Initiation rites ,Trips alone , Sleepovers , ‘Awards’
To prevent abuse, all of the above activities are banned or restricted by the BSA’s Youth Protection program

Response by the BSA

Scouting was among the first national youth organizations to address the issue of sexual abuse of its members and in the 1980s developed its Youth Protection program. The goal of the YPP is to educate youth, leaders and parents about the problem as a whole, and to introduce barriers to pedophiles using the Scout program to reach victims. Despite these efforts, sex abuse cases still occur within the Boy Scouts.

UK Scout leaders ~ Hall of shame ~ Full stories and photos can be found on the offenders page.

Here are a few examples of some of the offenders ~

2002 ~ A boys’ club leader and former scouter has been jailed for a year for taking photographs of naked children. David Ferron, from Greater Manchester, avoided a longer sentence, because he was arrested just a day before the introduction of higher maximum sentences for his crimes.

Dec 2010 ~ A Scout troop leader was facing jail after admitting possessing sadistic sex images that showed youngsters bound and gagged. Ryan Jameson had 25 level five images – depicting the very worst forms of child abuse.

2003 ~ A cub scout leader has been jailed for eight months after admitting he downloaded and distributed child pornography on the internet. Kevin Groves, of Tong Lane, Leeds, was found to have 39 indecent images of young children on his home computer and laptop.

2003 ~ A boarding school housemaster has been jailed for seven years at Cardiff Crown Court after admitting abusing boys in his care. Graham Carter, 53, admitted a string of indecent assaults against five young boys at the school. The former scout leader groped the boys as he put them to bed at night.

2006 ~ A former Aberdeen Scout leader and assistant head teacher who sexually abused boys has been jailed for eight years. Paul Firth, 54, admitted 13 charges of indecency involving boys as young as eight between 1974 to 1996.

2004 ~ A nursery nurse has been convicted of having internet pictures of naked boys between the ages of eight and 10. Scout leader Richard Carroll, 32, from Aberdeen pleaded guilty to having 41 indecent photographs of children.

2005 ~ A Lincolnshire scoutmaster has been jailed for six months after molesting two girls at a camp in the county.Lincoln Crown Court heard Douglas Merrett, 36, from Willoughton near Gainsborough, was drunk when he went into the children’s tent.He tried to kiss the girls aged 12 and 13 and touch one of them.

2010 ~ A SCOUT leader who sexually abused an 11-year-old girl on a summer outing has been jailed for two years. Andrew Deaves, of Belmont Road, South Norwood, indecently assaulted the youngster repeatedly between June and August 2002.

2007 ~ A “dangerously disturbed” man who is “sexually obsessed with children” has been locked up for abusing a 7-year-old boy. Michael Lee, 40, of Parsons Lane, Ely, was jailed for six years after pleading guilty to two counts of sexually assaulting the child by indecently touching him.Lee’s offences came to light after the boy was accused of performing similar sexual acts on another boy during a Cub Scouts camping trip in December last year.

2006 ~ A scout leader who set up a fake camp to lure boys to his home and abuse them has been jailed for nine monthsAlan Grant, 42, a former assistant commissioner, made parental consent forms for the bogus event.He earlier admitted sexually abusing two 15-year-old boys on 18 or 19 March at his home in Perthshire.

2007 ~ A scout master who sexually abused youngsters in his troop during the 1980s has been jailed for four years.David Bridges the married 54-year-old, of London Road, Aston Clinton in Buckinghamshire, was convicted by a jury of seven assaults on five of the boys.Bridges committed the attacks inside a scout hut in Sarratt, near Watford, Herts from 1982-87

2009 ~ A judge has told a former Scout group chairman and children’s charity worker who sexually abused three youngsters that he was a “danger to boys”.Father-of-two Alan Wilson, 65, from Inverness, was jailed for four years.Wilson, a former managing director of a construction and demolition firm, had previously admitted a charge of lewd, indecent and libidinous practices and two charges of sexual assault against one boy, then aged between 12 and 16, between December 1989 and August 1993.

2010 ~ Shropshire scout leader has been banned from working with children for the rest of his life after more than 15,000 indecent images of children were found at his home.David Stokes, of Egerton Road, Whitchurch, appeared at Shrewsbury Crown yesterday after admitting 12 counts of making indecent photos of a child and four counts of possessing indecent images of a child.

2009 ~ A former scout leader who “groomed” a teenage boy for sex while taking him away for kayaking trips has been jailed for four years at Norwich Crown Court.Julien Pike, 37, of Northcote Road, Norwich, began the abuse when the boy was 13 and it lasted for almost three years. Pike admitted five counts of sexual activity with a child.

1998 ~ A former scoutmaster and youth worker, David Stanley, from Telford in Shropshire, has been jailed for 18 years for a series of sexual attacks on young boys in his care.Stanley, now a self-employed computer consultant, was described by Judge Michael Mott as a predatory and aggressive paedophile who preyed on vulnerable young boys.

2004 ~ A former scout leader who molested young boys on a Highland estate escaped a jail term after a judge heard he was needed to care for his elderly aunt.Michael Todd was sentenced to 250 hours of community service at the High Court in Edinburgh after being found guilty of three charges dating back 23 years.

2005 ~ A scout leader convicted of sexually abusing three boys who were members of his troop has been jailed for 12 years.Antony Crouch, 31, of Amory Road, Tiverton, Devon, was convicted of 20 sexual offences.

2008 ~ A former scout leader has been jailed for life for sexually abusing a boy for six years.Cardiff Crown Court heard Stephen Davies, from Newport, used his role in the scouts to befriend the youngster.Davies, 48, admitted 10 charges of sexual abuse dating back to 1990, when his victim was 11. He was ordered to serve a minimum of nine years after the court heard he is currently serving an indefinite sentence for raping a 13-year-old boy.

1999 ~ A WIRRAL scout leader who indecently assaulted a boy and showed hard-core pornographic videos to others has been jailed for two years.Sentencing John Fogg on Friday, Judge David Maddison said his victims had been vulnerable, impressionable youngsters and his behaviour involved a serious breach of trust.

2002 ~ Paedophile Peter Francis, a former Cub Scout leader, was today beginning a double life sentence for abusing boys and girls for more than a decade.Francis admitted 15 charges of indecent assault involving boys and girls, two serious sex offences against boys, two further indecency allegations and two charges of having indecent images of youngsters.

2008 ~ A PERVERT who fantasised about raping and murdering children and talked about his desires over the internet worked with children for more than 30 years.Phillip John George Webb held positions of trust over children in schools, as a Cub Scout leader and as an activity co-ordinator in a remand centre.When police raided his shop, they found 36,265 indecent images of children. Some were of babies.Nearly 1,000 were of the most serious level, featuring sadism or sexual activity with animals.More than 11,000 featured sexual activity between children and adults.

2004 ~ A SCOUTMASTER who downloaded disgusting and depraved child pornography has been jailed for a year.Kelvin Marshall, 34, accessed degrading images of children involved in sexual activities, including sadism and bestiality

2005 ~ A former scoutmaster who kept photographs and videos showing the sexual torture of children was caught when police found a home-movie made for him by a North-East paedophile.David Daines, 44, was caught with a camcorder tape of a nine-year-old boy who had been groomed for sex by fellow scoutmaster Paul Woodruff.

2008 ~ Richard McGuire was jailed indefinitely after a judge branded him a dangerous pervert and a scheming predator.The 44-year-old, a former Scoutmaster, was imprisoned in 1992 for carrying out sexual assaults on boys.

2004 ~ A HIGH-ranking Scout leader has admitted possessing 14,000 indecent images of young children.Melvin Penn, 59, a self-employed computer technician, was arrested at Manchester Airport on August 6 as he returned from an overseas break, with a laptop computer containing more than 8,000 of the images.Penn, who is the top Scout leader in Stockport, was caught after an anonymous tip-off to Crimestoppers.

2007 ~ A SCOUT leader has been jailed for 10 months and banned from working with children for life after creating a home-made photo album filled with pornographic pictures of young boys.Paul Sheeran, 57, a Scout leader since 1971, was arrested as part of a national operation targeting suspected sex offenders.Sheeran from Stretford, was jailed after pleading guilty to 29 counts of making indecent images of children and one count of possessing 1,600 indecent images of children.

2005 ~ A scout master who built up a library of child pornography has been jailed for two years.David Davenport, 55, from the Stockport area, was arrested after police found nearly 3,000 images of children on various computers in his home.

2005 ~ A SCOUT master was sentenced to five years in jail after admitting to a string of sex attacks.Paul Billington, 60, of Northwich, Cheshire, was described by a judge as “every parent’s worst nightmare”.Manchester’s Minshull Street Crown Court heard how he filmed boys as they showered in a scout hut.Billington admitted indecent assault and sexual activity with a child and was jailed for five years

2007 ~ A GIRL who was repeatedly raped by a former Scouting vol-unteer said the man had ruined her life.Michael Drinkwater, 36, is beginning an indefinite jail sentence after he admitted first attacking his victim when she was just 13 years old.He raped her 14 times over two years and also indecently assaulted her 13-year-old friend at Bowley Scout camp in Great Harwood.

2001 ~ A SOCIAL worker from Coventry who confessed to hoarding thousands of obscene images of young children was today jailed for 18 months.Former scout master David Linforth aged 55, had photos and pseudo photos of children, some engaged in depraved sexual acts, coventry Crown Court was told. Linforth, of Hothorpe Close, Ernesford Grange, admitted two offences of possession of pseudo photos of children and two offences of making indecent photographs of children.

2002 ~ A PAEDOPHILE scout leader who preyed on young boys in Redbridge during a 13-year campaign of abuse has been jailed for two years.Four former scouts accused Tungatt of nine separate sex attacks between January 1988 and July 2001, when he worked as a rock climbing instructor in charge of scouts from the Havering, Redbridge and Waltham Forest areas.

2002 ~ One of the police officers who investigated paedophile scout leader Mark Bailey has described how one of the assaults he was convicted of took place while Bailey was on duty as a policeman in Mill Hill.Father-of-three Bailey, 41, was jailed for ten years at St Alban’s Crown Court on February 15, after a jury found him guilty of two counts of buggery and three of indecent assault on boys he met at the 16th Hendon scout troop, which meets off Sanders Lane, Mill Hill.

2006 ~ Roy Alan Chapman, who worked in the 16th Royal Eltham Scout Group, was cautioned by police in November 2004 for possessing indecent images of children.

2005 ~ A SCOUT leader who exposed a teenager to child porn while trading photos of uniformed Cubs with a club of internet perverts has been jailed.Paedophile Steven Castle, 41, of Empire Road, Perivale, lured a Cub Scout into his bedroom for ‘computer lessons’ when he was just nine and then started bombarding the boy with images of child abuse.He also sent out pictures of Cubs aged between eight and ten, complete with their Scout uniforms, in return for lurid photos of children in sex acts.

2004 ~ A Scoutmaster was jailed after detectives discovered he owned more than 12,000 images of child porn.Stephen Dudley, aged 40, of Montrose Close, Welling, pleaded guilty at Middlesex Guildhall Crown Court to 19 charges of making indecent photos of children, one charge of possessing indecent photos and another charge of distribution.

2005 ~ A FORMER scoutmaster who kept more than 9,000 photographs and videos featuring the sexual torture of children ‘for entertainment’ was jailed for 15 months on Monday.David Daines, 44, was caught with a camcorder tape depicting a nine-year-old boy who had been groomed by a fellow scoutmaster for sex.

1998 ~ A paedophile who preyed on boys through a breakaway Scouting organisation has been sentenced to four years and is considered likely to die in prisonScout leader Dennis Ward, 66, who is seriously ill with a life expectancy of 24 months, was sentenced for his part in the “systematic abuse” of a vulnerable 13-year-old boy.Ward was a member of a paedophile ring that is thought to have abused up to 300 boys – some as young as eight – for more than 30 years.

2004 ~ A convicted paedophile, from Bedfont, who has served as a scoutmaster, Sunday school teacher and church warden, has been jailed for two years, banned from working with children, for life, and ordered to remain on the Sex Offenders’ Register indefinitely.Jailed last year for two offences of indecent assault, and one of gross indecency with children, aged ten and under, Paul Marshall, 49, then living in Dennison Road, Feltham, was, unknown to police at the time, filming and photographing his abuse of the same children, and keeping the images on his computer.

2001 ~ Paedophile scout leader who “habitually” raped a young boy in his care and abused a second has been jailed for 10 years.Kevin Pilling was convicted last month of six counts of rape and one of indecent assault on a scout over a period of four years.The 50 year-old assistant district commissioner for the movement in Lancaster was also convicted of indecently assaulting a second boy after paying for him to come to a scout camp.

2010 ~ Child rapist David King told police: “This is not what I need tonight” when they came to arrest him for a series of depraved attacks on a young girl.The 47-year-old, a scout leader in Reading, was jailed for 10 years at Reading Crown Court after he previously admitted nine counts of rape on a girl under the age of 13.

2001 ~ A man has been jailed for three years for sexually abusing an 11-year-old boy while a member of an alternative Scouting movement.Anthony Seymour, 55, of Brighton, appeared at Portsmouth Crown Court for sentencing after being convicted of indecently assaulting the boy in January.Seymour was also found guilty of indecently assaulting another boy who was under 16.

2005 ~ A FORMER scout leader was jailed yesterday for downloading more than 1,000 child porn images on to his home computer.Alan Cattell, 41, was caught after his credit card details were traced to paedophile websites.

2002 ~ A scout leader and company executive from north Wales found with more than 34,000 pornographic images of children on his computer has been jailed for 10 months.Police raided Mark Preston’s home in Buckley, Flintshire as part of the worldwide probe into child abuse images on the internet

1998 ~ A senior scouting official was warned yesterday he could go to jail after he admitted visiting a child pornographic web site on the Internet.Leicestershire scouts’ deputy district commissioner Christopher Phillips (51) of Henley Road, Leicester, pleaded guilty at Nottingham magistrates’ court to making indecent pseudo-photographs of a child.

2008 ~ A SCOUT leader who fled to New York to escape justice was yesterday jailed indefinitely by Swansea Crown Court for sex offences.Paedophile Stuart Harris, 28, escaped from Britain after being arrested for sexually assaulting young boys.

2001 ~ A former scoutmaster was jailed for six years for a string of sexual offences on boys at a care home which he treated as a “paedophile’s paradise”.William Rogers, 51, of Corporation Road, Weymouth, was convicted of 16 counts of indecent assault, one count of inciting boys to indecently assault other boys, and one count of assault occasioning actual bodily harm

2008 ~ Redruth man Rodney Anderson, who sexually abused young boys
while masquerading as a scout master, was jailed for a total of ten years at Truro Crown Court today.As Anderson left the dock to be escorted down to the cells, a man in the public gallery shouted: “Rot in hell you bastard”.

2010 ~ TWISTED Cub Scout leader David Hopkins, who was jailed for a 30-year-reign of sex abuse against young boys, has been released from prison.Hopkins, 72, served just six and a half years of his ten-year stretch.It is understood he is in halfway-house accommodation near Maidstone

2007 ~ A SCOUT leader who stashed dozens of indecent images of children under his bed has been spared a prison sentence.Alex Searle, 27, was dismissed from the 7th Petts Wood Scout Group when 44 computer print-outs of children in various states of undress were discovered at his home.

2008 ~ THE mother of one of the boys assaulted by Timothy Edmeades has spoken of her anger at the Scout movement who refused to investigate allegations against the now convicted paedophile.

2004 ~ A Devon scout leader had hundreds of pornographic pictures of teenage boys on his home computer, a court heard.Norman Kelway admitted distributing an indecent picture of a boy, making an indecent photo of a child, and possessing indecent photos of children.Kelway, of Erlstoke Close, Plymouth, was put on probation under a three-year community rehabilitation order.

2008 ~ A FORMER teacher and Scout leader who sexually abused three young girls has been jailed for four years and banned from ever working with children again.Exeter Crown Court heard Ian Gibson, 49, repeatedly sexually assaulted one of his victims, who was disabled, over a five-year period and also abused two other girls.

2007 ~ A former Plymouth primary school teacher and Scout leader has been jailed for three years for taking indecent pictures of young boys and spying on them when they were naked.

2010 ~ A ‘PREDATORY’ former Plymouth Scoutmaster has been jailed after admitting possessing and distributing child pornography – and refusing to tell police his secret paedophile computer passwords.John McMurdo, 36, pleaded guilty to all 14 counts put to him at a previous hearing last month at Plymouth Crown Court. The charges were:Eleven counts of making indecent images of children, at levels one to four. Level one is the least serious category of pornographic image and level five the most serious.

Part 2 coming soon ~ Paedophile rings and the mormon / freemason links

http://www.chris-uk.org/scouting-more-abuse-than-the-church

copland
19-02-2011, 11:40 AM
I'm a bigot... Apparently!

So says one of the countless convicted paedophiles currently crawling this thread:-
http://forum.unlock.org.uk/default.aspx?m=2528&f=7&p=1

I would post a response on my site, but here's quicker, so here goes...

When I saw Christopher's post I thought he recently got busted for calling someone a "paki" but when I realised he was refering to an altogether more disgusting "p" word, and more importantly himself, I can assure him my blood ran colder than his.

As far as the pissing, mooning, and streaking is concerned, I went to great lengths to remove a lot of the politicians who were busted for general sex, drugs, porn and orgies from my list. It was tempting to leave them in there, purely for the joy of sticking the boot in, but I feel they detract from what we rightfully view as sex offendors and only serve to remove the stigma that genuine sex offendors truly deserve.

Thanks once again to Ms Hope for providing a lot of useful information (all based on confirmed media reports).

Hope your hubby's getting better.

seeking_truth_lpool
19-02-2011, 02:18 PM
How about the masses stop worrying about who lives next door and take time to see what their children are up to.

How about sitting down at a dinner table every night and "TALK"

How about throwing the god damn TV out the window, let alone allow one in their children's bedroom.

How about no letting your 12,13 year old daughter wear a Thong!

How about stop dressing your teenage daughter in bunny girl t-shirts

How about putting filters on your internet connection.

How about installing confidence, to allow your children to know that it "GOOD" to be an individual and embrace being "DIFFERENT"

How about we teach our children what is important in life...Love...Nature...Fellow humanity.

How about introducing the Arts to your children.

How about fuelling the passion that EVERYONE has for arts ....be it drawing, dance, music, poetry, sculpture, painting, to name but a few.

Be the change you wish for;)

This should be printed and framed... Excellent Post ;)

rreeve
19-02-2011, 02:45 PM
Obviously this guy is a hero for setting up this website. I've always been of the strong belief that governements sould NEVER keep any secrets and especially where pedofiles are concerned, parents should have a right to know who lives near them.

Just one thing I noticed in the list of judges, MP's and officials:
- Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer - Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.

I'm not going to condemn a man for this, unless of course its CHILD porn. If its just regular porn then he doesn't deserve to be on that list.

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Just to highlight on my point about governments keeping secrets - consider this for a while and you will see that ALL problems stem from the fact that we allow governments to keep secrets. It this rule by secracy was ebolished we wouldn't have nowhere near as much problems as we have today. I believe this is the very core issue that needs to be addressed, its the one thing that will change EVERYTHING.

People have been brainwashed into thinking that secracy is needed for national security and its for our own protection but its this very act of secracy thats caused much of the problems and allowed every government to get away with appalling crimes.

ms hope
06-07-2011, 01:45 AM
Former judge admits child porn charges :mad:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/jun/17/childprotection.society

A former circuit judge has been warned that he faces jail after pleading guilty to downloading pornographic pictures of boys.
David Selwood, a 69-year-old father of four from Winchester, appeared at Bow Street magistrates court in London yesterday and admitted 13 counts of making and possessing indecent images of children.

He claimed he had downloaded 75 pictures on to his personal computer out of "curiosity" and had no sexual interest in children. :rolleyes:

Mr Selwood resigned on health grounds on June 2, two months after he was arrested. In the course of his eight years as resident judge at Portsmouth crown court, he dealt with many cases of child abuse and pornography, including those resulting from Operation Ore, the recent police crackdown on online child pornography.

The court heard Mr Selwood told police he had been curious to see how easy it would be for someone like him, who knew little about computers, to find child pornography. But he admitted his actions could not reasonably be justified as research.

Amanda Sawetz, prosecuting, said Mr Selwood made a written statement to police which read: "I can see objectively not only how foolish this may appear but also that there may be things going on in the subconscious mind I may be forced to look at. I don't understand psychology and so I'm not in a position to comment further."
Miss Sawetz said: "It is not possible to overlook the fact that Mr Selwood was a judge who has dealt with child abuse cases and cases involving Operation Ore." :eek:

However, his solicitor, Richard Hallam, played down the indecency of the pictures, which showed boys aged between eight and 14. "The nature of the images are at the lowest level," he said. "When I saw them in the police station I was not shocked by them, I felt they were fairly innocuous."
He said Mr Selwood had been "publicly humiliated" by his arrest. "He is a man who has served his community and country throughout his life. It is the source of enormous stress and he has been most concerned about the effect on his family and others connected to him.

"His judicial career has ended in what can be called unhappy circumstances. He regrets the embarrassment that this case has caused to his judicial colleagues, the Department of Constitutional Affairs and the staff at Portsmouth crown court."

Anthony Donne QC, a fellow judge and close friend of Mr Selwood, told the court: "The publicity, the fall from grace, and all that has happened in a very short space of time have had an enormous effect on a man who, in my view, has had a very fine and distinguished career." He described his friend as "a very high quality judge" and added: "The fall from that very high position to this morning has been absolutely devastating."

On April 2, three weeks before his own arrest, Mr Selwood presided over the trial of Christopher Bagley, a world authority on child abuse at Southampton University, on child pornography charges. The judge accepted his claim he had downloaded the material for research purposes, but told him he had been "naive" for failing to take legal advice or talking to colleagues.
Yesterday, the district judge, Timothy Workman, ordered Mr Selwood to sign on to the sex offenders' register within three days and adjourned the case for pre-sentence reports.

He told Mr Selwood: "I have no intention of committing this case to crown court, but in all other respects I am keeping all options open."
The former judge was released on unconditional bail and will be sentenced on July 13.

ms hope
21-07-2011, 11:00 PM
Kent Police - no mention of being a former Tory Councillor :rolleyes:

Man jailed for 15 months after admitting sex offences

Martin Fisher, 61, from Whitstable admitted a number of child sex offences

Martin Fisher, of Queens Road, Whitstable, had earlier pleaded guilty to five counts of sexual assault, three of which were against a girl under 13. He had also admitted 11 counts of possessing and making indecent images of children. Three additional offences of indecent assault on a child under 14 will remain on file.

http://www.kent.police.uk/Your%20Area/east_kent/news/210711_martin_fisher.html



Former Tory councillor paedophile that 'compared images to works of art' jailed

A paedophile who compared his catalogue of indecent images and explicit stories about children to works of art was jailed for 15 months today.

Former councillor Martin Fisher, 61, told police after he was arrested: "Some people like Picasso. I like pictures of children with no clothes on."
Indecent images of children and paedophilic stories downloaded from the internet were found on his home and business computers.
Fisher, who sat as a Conservative councillor on Canterbury City Council, pleaded guilty to five counts of sexual assault, three of which were on a girl aged under 13.

He also admitted 11 counts of possessing and making indecent images of children, and he was jailed at Canterbury Crown Court, Kent Police said.
Detectives investigated insurance underwriter Fisher, of Queen's Road, Whitstable, Kent, after one of his victims reported the offences to the authorities.

During the 15-month investigation by Kent social services and police, officials found he initially refused to acknowledge his hoard was indecent.
Detective Constable Richard Allen, the investigating officer, said following sentencing: "When Fisher was arrested and interviewed, he admitted accessing and printing the images and stories but he said he didn't accept they were indecent.
"He felt they were artistic.

"In fact, he said during the course of one interview, 'Some people like Picasso. I like pictures of children with no clothes on'."

Fisher denied responsibility for the sexual assaults throughout his police interviews but changed his plea to guilty during a hearing on June 20.
Detective Chief Inspector Paul Fotheringham, head of CID at East Kent, said: "Throughout the investigation, Fisher refused to accept that he was sexually interested in children, despite using search engines on his computers to look for sites specifically involving sex with children.

"He maintained that indecent pictures and explicit paedophilic stories were 'art'.:mad:

"He has also since claimed that he pleaded guilty to save his victims the trauma of going to court and that he was also a victim in the case.
"We wholeheartedly dispute that.
"Hopefully, following today's sentence, he now understands that this behaviour is not acceptable and the only victims in this case are the people he sexually assaulted."

In addition to his 15-month jail term, Fisher will spend 10 years on the sex offenders' register.

He has also been banned from working with children for 10 years, a police spokeswoman said.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/21/former-tory-councillor-paedophile-that-compared-images-works-of-art-jailed-115875-23286823/

nofuture
11-10-2011, 11:38 PM
Can't believe this creature avoided prison. :mad:


Man sentenced for molesting women on buses

A businessman from Cumbria who molested young women on buses twice a month for 15 years has been sentenced.

David Moore, 59, assaulted his victims on buses between Manchester and Didsbury.

Moore, of Grange-over-Sands, who runs a glass company, admitted seven charges of sexual assault at Liverpool Crown Court.

Judge Clement Goldstone said he was a "dirty old man" and gave him a three-year community order.

The hearing heard how Moore, who was travelling to casinos, would grope his victims and then get off the bus when they realised what he had done.

His victims were often students or women in their 20s, the hearing heard.

Judge Goldstone said Moore had "made a thorough nuisance of himself" but had responded to psychiatric treatment to "exorcise the demons".

'Suspended sentence'

Moore, of Lyndene Drive, was also ordered to take part in a sex offenders treatment programme and banned from travelling on public transport without an accompanying adult for three years.

He was ordered to pay £375 prosecution costs and £250 in compensation to two of his victims.

Judge Goldstone said: "This is to all intents and purposes a suspended sentence.

"If you breach the terms of this order or reoffend in the next three years you will be brought back before this court and will go to prison."

Alison Mafham, defending, said her client had fully co-operated with the psychiatric help offered to him so far.

The hearing heard how he was caught after a number of women came forward after a police appeal.

Moore also asked for 12 other offences to be taken into consideration.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15266441