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dondaz
21-02-2007, 10:46 PM
Follow your intuition people. Finton Dunne Exposed.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/fintons-dunnesratgallery01.jpg

jimijams
21-02-2007, 11:02 PM
How exactly are you exposing him, are you suggesting that his name is Uban not Fintan and he is a freemason? Need more information please.

dondaz
21-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Many people have been getting red herrings from Finton for too long now.

Finton Dunne - U bin Dunne - You've been done - conned. Not too bright folks!

It's my sense of humour, okay!

jimijams
21-02-2007, 11:33 PM
Then maybe you should have posted it in the humour forum.;)

dondaz
22-02-2007, 05:38 AM
Hey jimijams, your Awakening and Plato threads are interesting subjects.

Is the 911 forum the only one where humour is banned or is it just my posts on Fakey Finton?

Your wry swipe at irony in Todays News section was an 'eye opener' too!

Look forward to more of your posts.:rolleyes:

jimijams
22-02-2007, 07:20 AM
Hey jimijams, your Awakening and Plato threads are interesting subjects.

Is the 911 forum the only one where humour is banned or is it just my posts on Fakey Finton?

Your wry swipe at irony in Todays News section was an 'eye opener' too!

Look forward to more of your posts.:rolleyes:
I was being slightly facetious dondaz so I wouldn't worry about it to much, thats the trouble when you try to crack a funny in forum about a serious topic(911) it tends to go over most peoples heads.

I'm pleased you liked my Plato and awakening posts, they didn't seem to get much attention but if only one person benefited from reading them then that makes posting them worthwhile.

Not to sure what my wry swipe at irony was, you'll have to clue me up on that one.

All the best Jimi

jimijams
22-02-2007, 08:16 AM
Follow your intuition people.
With regards to your initial post, all funnies aside you are correct on at least one point.

The broader message I am trying, probably unsuccessfully so far to make is don't follow anybody, learn to become your own David Icke, Alex Jones or even Fintan Dunne. Researchers can have an important message which can act as a sign post to the truth, but none ever have the whole truth, they are all still only acting according to their beliefs.

IMO the next step on the path is to move beyond these people and start creating yourself, otherwise you will end up eventually being caught in the rats nest, because thats how the system is designed, it relies on people being followers, whether so called awake or not, whenever you give your allegiance to somebody at the expense of somebody else you are also giving away your power.

"The slave is freed from his bondage only to find a stronger set of chains"

Rant over

fintandunne
22-02-2007, 05:34 PM
ROTFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

Follow your intuition people. Finton Dunne Exposed.

What a hard-hitting piece of closely-argued 9/11 political analysis!

It's hard to know where to begin to even try and answer the issues
you raise. Every one of my points in thousands of words I have written
in about fifty major articles on 9/11 --and you have answered each one
in such depth and with such command.

Don't know how you did it! Your command of the 9/11 issue is impressive!

I'll try and summarize the key points I think you are making, although
it's hard to pick out the best from such a wealth of argument:

But. I'll try. You seem to be saying:

1 ) I've got Paintshop 7.1
2 ) Bush and Cheney and Silverstein did 9/11, look no further.
3 ) I'll be 18 soon.
4 ) Finton Dunne Sukz. (Fintan, actually)
5 ) My mum thinks I'm asleep.
6 ) Bush and Cheney and Silverstein did 9/11, look no further.
7 ) Oh and Guiliani and Rice and Marvin Bush did it too, look no further.
8 ) Finton Dunne Sukz.
9 ) Errrr... Umm.....

OK. I know that's only a brief overview of the main points, but it at
least gives me a chance to try respond, if I can that is!

Alright, let me just say, the following:

Alex Jones, Obachike and Peter Power
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=53227#53227

"The Controled Demolition of the 9/11 Truth Movement"
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=53439#53439

The CIA Fakes
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

Sophistication
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=53714#53714

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic4/2bushes.jpg

The Great Dictator.. ..Finally Unmasks
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9905#9905

Good Cop Bad Cop
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54051#54051

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic1/spider1.jpg

Exit Bush Enter the Dragon
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/InsideTrackNews051118c.mp3

Deal with it!
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54216#54216

Explicit Clarification
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54328#54328

Sandstorm is Over
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54380#54380

Is Fintan Dunne Jewish?
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260

Devil in the Detail
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54433#54433

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic3/ilduce.jpg

The Monkey In the Middle
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54985#54985

9/11 Without Tinfoil - The Coup
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=827

Wag The WTC II : The Blockbuster
http://breakfornews.com/wag/the_blockbuster.htm

http://breakfornews.com/audiopic/indyjones1.jpg

Alex Jones & the Temple of Doom
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

CIA Bitches Skip Town
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1401

The Bush/G8 New World Order
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=986

http://breakfornews.com/3i/images/coup-small.gif

Coup! The Anatomy of a PsyOp
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=827

Our Good Friends in the CIA - NOT !
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/our-good-friends-in-cia-not.html

Giving Conspiracy Theory a Bad Name
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/giving-conspiracy-theory-bad-name.html

Mickey Atta and the Big McWhoppers
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/mickey-atta-and-big-mcwhoppers.html

Alex Jones, Hopsicker & the 9/11 CIA Fakes
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/alex-jones-hopsicker-911-cia-fakes.html

True Lies of 9/11: Amanda & Atta
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/true-lies-of-911-amanda-atta.html

Disinfo: The Iran Invasion Drivel
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/disinfo-iran-invasion-drivel.html

Good Cops, Bad Cops and the Stolen Election
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/good-cops-bad-cops-and-stolen-elec tion.html

The CIA, The Left & Tabloid 9/11
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/cia-left-tabloid-911.html

Ellsberg, Sibel Edmonds & The Secret Team
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/ellsberg-sibel-edmonds-secret-team.html

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic3/g8rules.jpg

Dawn of The G8 New World Order
http://www.breakfornews.com/G8-World-Order.htm

Rise of The G8 New World Order
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/rise-of-g8-new-world-order.html

'Two Hardware Stores' as 9/11 Goes 'Nuts'
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/911-coverup-current-status.html

Ops in Disarray Over London Bombs Probe
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/ops-in-disarray-over-london-bombs.html

Cynthia's Big LIHOP Day Out
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/cynthias-big-lihop-day-out.html

Mainstream Ridicules Visor Terror Drill Hype
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/mainstream-ridicules-visor-terror. html

Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/alex-jones-is-wrong-on-london-terror.html

http://www.breakfornews.com/anewspic3/birds-of-a-feather.jpg

9/11 Rats Pt2: Scooter, Reggie & the Birds of a Feather
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=454&highlight=#454

9/11 : The Aliens Did It !
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/04/911-aliens-did-it.html

Gannon and the Inevitable Downfall of Rove
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/04/gannon-and-inevitable-downfall-of-rove.html

Seymour Hersh and the Mythical 'Strike on Iran'
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/04/seymour-hersh-and-mythical-strike-on.html

What Have John Kerry and Giuliana Sgrena Got in Common?
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/03/what-have-john-kerry-and-giuliana. html

Oh, and Not Forgetting.....

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic3/rats911.jpg

Uncovered: The Rats Nest of 9/11
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic2/911ratsGallery.gif
Some of the key players in the 9/11 coverup -but not them all.


I could say more, but I don't want to go on.

Want to give you a chance to respond in the same
impressive depth as your first post, after all.

dondaz
23-02-2007, 03:33 AM
Hi again jimijams. I often wonder about usernames? They can be interesting? :confused:

Does it go back to our childhood? Little Jimmy who loved the jams?

My sense of humour, okay!

The broader message I am trying, probably unsuccessfully so far to make is don't follow anybody, learn to become your own David Icke, Alex Jones or even Fintan Dunne.

I don't think you are being unsuccessfull here. This is a very important issue, which is why you have pointed it out.

I believe a part of our destiny is to take alternative points of view on board, make what we will of them and along with the rest of the infomation we hold in our minds we then create our own ideas on which to base our opinions. Which is what I think you are saying makes us individuals, unique?

Become our own person and ideas, rather than the collective mindset?

I agree entirely!

Not to sure what my wry swipe at irony was, you'll have to clue me up on that one.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1095&page=2

thats the trouble when you try to crack a funny in forum about a serious topic(911) it tends to go over most peoples heads

I know what you mean. Look at what Mr Dunne said about me (burn the witches) you'd think he would take this matter seriously. Especially since the photographic evidence I produce above is well beyond suspicsion, to say the least, if we go by Fintons' standard of evidence.:D

Best

Fintan, I will post my reply to your post here tomorrow. You have my word.

jimijams
23-02-2007, 03:50 AM
Hi again jimijams. I often wonder about usernames? They can be interesting? :confused:

Does it go back to our childhood? Little Jimmy who loved the jams?

My sense of humour, okay!
jimijams is a nickname some friends call me because it is similar to my real name Jamie, here in Aus it is also slang for pyjamas. Feel free to call me Jamie if wish.

I don't think you are being unsuccessfull here. This is a very important issue, which is why you have pointed it out.

I believe a part of our destiny is to take alternative points of view on board, make what we will of them and along with the rest of the infomation we hold in our minds we then create our own ideas on which to base our opinions. Which is what I think you are saying makes us individuals, unique?

Become our own person and ideas, rather than the collective mindset?

I agree entirely!
Glad to see wer'e on the same page there.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...?t=1095&page=2
Oh that..:D

garth
23-02-2007, 08:31 AM
Till now I've been a fence-sitter on all this CIA fake stuff, but what strikes me as a bit suss is the time and trouble some people go to on various forums in order to defend their ego. Meanwhile (love him or loathe him) poor ol AJ (whose quite literally shouted himself hoarse) and most of the other named "CIA Fakes" are still hard at work getting on with the business of bringing down the 9/11 cover-up.

Its sure got me wondering anyway. :rolleyes:

edelweiss pirate
25-02-2007, 03:16 PM
Yah.... Break for News is a clever new product (from the makers of ATS)

"conspiracy lite".. It's only a step up from Newsweek... Tells you nothing you didn't already know and gives you some major aspartame toxic brainwashing thrown in.. and some highly dodgy and completely flabby, studio trickery to make AJ look unstable... DUDES!! The Guy's pissed off.. You want Alex to take up golf and start kissing babies or something to make you think he's 'not crazy'... The guy acts mad because he's for real, he's not a politician and doesn't have a particular 'public image' to maintain.. He's fighting the hordes of darkness that really do exist and is he supposed to be careful with his diction just in case he upsets someone? Man, he's out to shock. HE has to wake the comatose American public out of their nightmare... I guess we just ain't used to sincerity these days eh?

As for that Fake for News webshite

Do they mention the masons? SRA?

Doubt it.

It's just mad. So some folks would throw over Jones Icke Rense and everyone else because Fakey Fintan says so... That's so mad it's not funny.

Dondaz, you're turtley right though... I guess some people will take a 'different path'..... Still, it kinda sucks when all that's required is a bit of intuition or insight to see the setup for what it is....

come on now....

dondaz
02-03-2007, 08:32 PM
He he he!


It was entertainment night at MI5 Headquarters and the Amazing Fintan Dunne was topping the bill. Secret Agents the world over came to see the famed Psyop Master do his stuff.

As Fintan went to the front of the meeting room, he announced: "Unlike most hypnotists who invite two or three people up here to be put into a trance, with myself being trained in the dark arts of psyop-hypnosis, I intend to hypnotize each and every single member of the audience all at the same time."

The excitement was almost electric as Fintan withdrew an old pocket watch from his coat. "I want you each to keep your eye on this antique watch. It's a very special watch. It's been in my family for six hundred and sixty six years."

He began to swing the watch gently back and forth while quietly chanting: "Watch the watch, watch the watch, watch the watch..."

The Crowd became mesmerized as the watch swayed back and forth, light gleaming off its polished surface. Hundreds of pairs of eyes followed the swaying watch, until, suddenly, it slipped from Fintans' fingers and fell to the floor, breaking into a 1000 pieces.

"SHIT!" said Fintan...

...It took nearly three days to clean the mess up.



http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/911---heros-gallery.jpg

Hey edelweis, can I use this as the official quote on Fintan Dunne?

Tells you nothing you didn't already know and gives you some major aspartame toxic brainwashing thrown in..

This is good mate.

Fintan Dunne Is An Inside Job!

edelweiss pirate
03-03-2007, 07:31 PM
Sure Dondaz... 'ave it...

I don't know what it is about that guy that makes so many people accept what is clearly total bollocks...

It must be that brain coma inducing brogue of his... It reminds me of a Sunday hangover...

..."Hey listen to me.... you are feeling sleepy, very very sleepy, just relax now... every other conspiracy researcher in the world is a fake.... yes, you heard it here first on fake, I mean, break, for news. Yes, all fakes everyone... except me...... when I click my finger you will wake up and spam all forums with this disinfo SNAP! Run along now my disinfo children, there can be only one and it's ME ME ME... brrrruuaahaaahahaha!"..

Master hypnotist indeed. You seen how many hits that goon has got?

seamus
04-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Oh hey E.P...

I take back what I said about Alex Jones, for the record. I guess I'm just not into that style of emotion-stirring, since I don't need to get stirred, the facts alone are enough for me. I recognize however that many who are in the doldrums do actually need to see a man screaming and pounding his fist on a desk in order to "get it" that something is actually happening that deserves their attention.

So you can take me off the "fakey finton" fanlist :D

s

by the way, I like your new Av...

jimijams
05-03-2007, 12:54 AM
Oh hey E.P...

I take back what I said about Alex Jones, for the record. I guess I'm just not into that style of emotion-stirring, since I don't need to get stirred, the facts alone are enough for me. I recognize however that many who are in the doldrums do actually need to see a man screaming and pounding his fist on a desk in order to "get it" that something is actually happening that deserves their attention.

So you can take me off the "fakey finton" fanlist :D

s

by the way, I like your new Av...
Good for you seamus, edelweiss pirate put forth such a convincing argument against Fintan Dunne and made such a strong case in defence of Jones how could you not change your mind(sarcasm included).:rolleyes:

jimijams
05-03-2007, 03:39 AM
Bill Cooper had his doubts about Alex Jones and his message of fear seven years ago. Fintan Dunne was not the first to talk about this, so to discredit him because he has an Irish accent is just plain ridiculous and beside the point.
For those of you here that still do your own thinking you can download Bill Coopers expose of Alex Jones and the Y2k hoax here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TJV5RB0X

Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S5NNUB8Q

seamus
05-03-2007, 06:16 AM
thanks for the uploads ;) *slurrrrp*

s

ryans53
07-03-2007, 06:41 AM
While I'm skeptical of Fintan's 'Fake-List', I can't help but wonder what legitimacy there is to it. I'm curious about the rationale Fintan employed to arrive at the conclusion that all of these websites are somehow tied to CIA Fakery. I admit that I haven't studied his site too thoroughly nor have I visited it regularly over the years, but the link he dedicates to the Fake list doesn't provide the methodology he used to identify these sites as Fakes. I'm not prepared to assume he has no reason for it until I look into it further so I'd like to know if anyone has insight into this. If this is really Fintan commenting under his name here, I'd love to hear his answer.

I certainly believe there are disinformation agents about, but as far as my ability to distinguish between disinformation (intentionally misleading) and misinformation (honestly mistaken) agents goes, I don't think I can reliably identify the difference.

dondaz
17-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Bump! I forgot about this thread:D

mynameis
17-06-2008, 01:33 PM
ROTFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol:



What a hard-hitting piece of closely-argued 9/11 political analysis!

It's hard to know where to begin to even try and answer the issues
you raise. Every one of my points in thousands of words I have written
in about fifty major articles on 9/11 --and you have answered each one
in such depth and with such command.

Don't know how you did it! Your command of the 9/11 issue is impressive!

I'll try and summarize the key points I think you are making, although
it's hard to pick out the best from such a wealth of argument:

But. I'll try. You seem to be saying:

1 ) I've got Paintshop 7.1
2 ) Bush and Cheney and Silverstein did 9/11, look no further.
3 ) I'll be 18 soon.
4 ) Finton Dunne Sukz. (Fintan, actually)
5 ) My mum thinks I'm asleep.
6 ) Bush and Cheney and Silverstein did 9/11, look no further.
7 ) Oh and Guiliani and Rice and Marvin Bush did it too, look no further.
8 ) Finton Dunne Sukz.
9 ) Errrr... Umm.....

OK. I know that's only a brief overview of the main points, but it at
least gives me a chance to try respond, if I can that is!

Alright, let me just say, the following:

Alex Jones, Obachike and Peter Power
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=53227#53227

"The Controled Demolition of the 9/11 Truth Movement"
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=53439#53439

The CIA Fakes
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

Sophistication
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=53714#53714

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic4/2bushes.jpg

The Great Dictator.. ..Finally Unmasks
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9905#9905

Good Cop Bad Cop
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54051#54051

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic1/spider1.jpg

Exit Bush Enter the Dragon
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/InsideTrackNews051118c.mp3

Deal with it!
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54216#54216

Explicit Clarification
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54328#54328

Sandstorm is Over
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54380#54380

Is Fintan Dunne Jewish?
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260

Devil in the Detail
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54433#54433

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic3/ilduce.jpg

The Monkey In the Middle
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=54985#54985

9/11 Without Tinfoil - The Coup
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=827

Wag The WTC II : The Blockbuster
http://breakfornews.com/wag/the_blockbuster.htm

http://breakfornews.com/audiopic/indyjones1.jpg

Alex Jones & the Temple of Doom
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1841

CIA Bitches Skip Town
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1401

The Bush/G8 New World Order
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=986

http://breakfornews.com/3i/images/coup-small.gif

Coup! The Anatomy of a PsyOp
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=827

Our Good Friends in the CIA - NOT !
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/our-good-friends-in-cia-not.html

Giving Conspiracy Theory a Bad Name
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/giving-conspiracy-theory-bad-name.html

Mickey Atta and the Big McWhoppers
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/mickey-atta-and-big-mcwhoppers.html

Alex Jones, Hopsicker & the 9/11 CIA Fakes
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/alex-jones-hopsicker-911-cia-fakes.html

True Lies of 9/11: Amanda & Atta
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/true-lies-of-911-amanda-atta.html

Disinfo: The Iran Invasion Drivel
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/disinfo-iran-invasion-drivel.html

Good Cops, Bad Cops and the Stolen Election
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/good-cops-bad-cops-and-stolen-elec tion.html

The CIA, The Left & Tabloid 9/11
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/cia-left-tabloid-911.html

Ellsberg, Sibel Edmonds & The Secret Team
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/ellsberg-sibel-edmonds-secret-team.html

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic3/g8rules.jpg

Dawn of The G8 New World Order
http://www.breakfornews.com/G8-World-Order.htm

Rise of The G8 New World Order
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/rise-of-g8-new-world-order.html

'Two Hardware Stores' as 9/11 Goes 'Nuts'
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/911-coverup-current-status.html

Ops in Disarray Over London Bombs Probe
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/ops-in-disarray-over-london-bombs.html

Cynthia's Big LIHOP Day Out
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/cynthias-big-lihop-day-out.html

Mainstream Ridicules Visor Terror Drill Hype
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/mainstream-ridicules-visor-terror. html

Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/alex-jones-is-wrong-on-london-terror.html

http://www.breakfornews.com/anewspic3/birds-of-a-feather.jpg

9/11 Rats Pt2: Scooter, Reggie & the Birds of a Feather
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=454&highlight=#454

9/11 : The Aliens Did It !
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/04/911-aliens-did-it.html

Gannon and the Inevitable Downfall of Rove
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/04/gannon-and-inevitable-downfall-of-rove.html

Seymour Hersh and the Mythical 'Strike on Iran'
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/04/seymour-hersh-and-mythical-strike-on.html

What Have John Kerry and Giuliana Sgrena Got in Common?
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/03/what-have-john-kerry-and-giuliana. html

Oh, and Not Forgetting.....

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic3/rats911.jpg

Uncovered: The Rats Nest of 9/11
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26

http://breakfornews.com/anewspic2/911ratsGallery.gif
Some of the key players in the 9/11 coverup -but not them all.


I could say more, but I don't want to go on.

Want to give you a chance to respond in the same
impressive depth as your first post, after all.

If you only have one source site, your own with very little information to back up your claims, you may want to rethink this thread. Such scant information is not credible. So what do you have that is remotely credible.