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soul_traveller
24-05-2010, 01:37 AM
In case this has not been mentioned here before.
This is deeply disturbing and sick and I'm thinking - WTF!

I actually laughed at first as I thought it was a joke. I just didn't believe it!

Somebody wake me up! Somebody tell me it can't be true!

Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and with it, Child Pornography as well!
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/06/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/

the nine
24-05-2010, 01:55 AM
In case this has not been mentioned here before.
This is deeply disturbing.

I actually laughed at first as I thought it was a joke.
Somebody wake me up!

Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and with it, Child Pornography as well!
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/06/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/

this has to be a wind up..this is BEYOND belief..
this could not be MORE immoral if it tried to be.

spock
24-05-2010, 02:03 AM
that is just so fookin wrong. :mad:
dear me. what is wrong with people?





that site is full of viruses too.

bigscotsman
24-05-2010, 02:31 AM
im not shocked


the talmud condones it


and europe is run by jews who dont give a fuck for christian morality

runlikehell
24-05-2010, 02:37 AM
In case this has not been mentioned here before.
This is deeply disturbing.

I actually laughed at first as I thought it was a joke.
Somebody wake me up!

Germany and EU to Legalize Pedophilia and with it, Child Pornography as well!
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/06/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/



:eek: If this is true! then this is it folk's! :mad:

time we make a stand together!

I for one aint taking that shit! :mad:

lieorrists
24-05-2010, 02:39 AM
what a load of bollocks....heh

soul_traveller
24-05-2010, 03:13 AM
I bet this connects with Common Purpose - a bunch of strange, sad and deeply sick queers. :mad:

I didn't pick up any viruses but I've been picking up viruses on the BBC website.

hadabusa
24-05-2010, 04:14 AM
badly translated.

its left partys proposal, developed with GREEN party.

its not legalizing, but protection of defamation.

http://basedow1764.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/paedophilie-als-grundrecht/

german members can translate it, im just a socialist disinfo shill afterall.

:rolleyes:

torus
24-05-2010, 04:40 AM
I don't consider myself inherently violent. but destroying those who would seek to perpetrate this filth upon children wouldn't be violence; but swift and heartfelt justice!!

jay ray
24-05-2010, 04:54 AM
Wow.....this is fucked.

ironwood7
24-05-2010, 05:06 AM
I don't consider myself inherently violent. but destroying those who would seek to perpetrate this filth upon children wouldn't be violence; but swift and heartfelt justice!!

I live in California, my computer was just attacked when I tried to link to the original article. 5-23-2010 9:05 PM PST.

ozpixie
24-05-2010, 05:11 AM
Ironically, the Australian Government is using child porn as the basis for implementing their Chinese Style Internet Censorship. I don't think Conroy has a leg to stand on.

hitithard
24-05-2010, 06:27 AM
this has been posted before, will have a look for the post

but i think i remember the booklets were stopped, it was a while ago

hadabusa
24-05-2010, 06:34 AM
this has been posted before, will have a look for the post

but i think i remember the booklets were stopped, it was a while ago

one dutch proposal in 2006(smashed), but this bill is indeed new.

but it doesnt legalize pedophilia.

its a protection of defamation act, wich is still fucking horribly wrong, as it legitimizes www chilporn download/watching.

icarus
24-05-2010, 08:59 AM
this is the worst side of the nwo agenda, it's intrinsically part of it, abuse of children by elites, a very shadowy world. if any area of research into nwo can get you killed, it's this one

almost demonic in it's extent and cover up

it's why allegations against scottish elite goes nowhere, men like polanski and allen are tolerated and encouraged, and films like "an education" get rave reviews by critics

http://thevintageskeleton.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/serge_gainsbourg_d_c_s2_3_1991.jpg

freedom1st
24-05-2010, 09:16 AM
I feel sick!!

OMFG..we are literally living in hell!

And still the people do nothing! Please someone tell me that if this went mainstream the people would actually stir a bit. If not I f*cking give up!!

icarus
24-05-2010, 09:32 AM
the majority would riot if this went mainstram, like they did in belgium during the dutroux case, but it's been hushed up since then

all we (they) see on the news is minor paedophiles getting caught and general implications of wider networks which are never exposed

quite why decent police officers around the world tolerate this and don't blow the whstle regardless of the consequences is beyond me, they can't all be freemasons

same for some mainstream newspapers, they aren't all run by vermin. whatever happened to "publish and be damned"

any editors out there with the list of elite names should just publish the fucking thing and let the cards "fall where they may", to quote one of those on the list

pi3141
24-05-2010, 11:38 AM
Its disgusting, I hardly believe it myself.

But here's a report from Telegraph about Harriet Harman advocating watering down of child pornography laws and lowering the age of consent.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/4949555/Harriet-Harman-under-attack-over-bid-to-water-down-child-pornography-law.html


The Leader of the House of Commons and Minister for Women and Equality, who also sits on a Cabinet committee on young people’s welfare, is being touted as a possible successor to Gordon Brown, .

But she faces fresh criticism from Opposition MPs and campaign groups after The Daily Telegraph obtained documents showing that she called on ministers to make sexually explicit photographs or films of children legal unless there was evidence that the subject had been harmed.

At the time she made the official submission, she was a senior figure in a civil liberties organisation that wanted the age of consent to be lowered to 14 and incest decriminalised. It also defended self-confessed paedophiles in the press and allowed them to attend its meetings.

Last night Tim Loughton, the Shadow Children’s Minister, said: “Clearly there is a serious conflict of interest with the committees she sits on, who might want urgently to clarify her position on the exploitation of children for the sexual gratification of adults.

“It’s a shame that Miss Harman’s zeal for positive discrimination and all things politically correct among adults does not extend to the exploitation of children. Any child who is used for the sexual gratification of adults counts as an abused child and needs protecting.”

Miss Harman, 58, was a newly qualified solicitor when she became legal officer for the National Council for Civil Liberties, now known as Liberty, in 1978. At the time its general secretary was Patricia Hewitt, who went on to become health secretary under Tony Blair.

Among the groups affiliated to NCCL were the Paedophile Information Exchange and Paedophile Action for Liberation, whose members argued openly for the abolition of the age of consent. NCCL complained to the press watchdog about their treatment by tabloid newspapers and said in one article: “We support any organisation that seeks to campaign for anything it wants within the law. They have that right.”

In NCCL’s official response to the Government’s plans to reform sex laws, dubbed a “Lolita’s Charter”, it suggested reducing the age of consent and argued that “childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage”. It claimed that children can suffer more from having to retell their experiences in court or the press.

Amid growing public concern about adults preying on children, the Protection of Children Bill was put before Parliament in order to tighten the laws on child pornography by banning indecent images of under-16s.

NCCL’s official response, signed by Miss Harman and submitted in April 1978, claimed that the new law could lead to “damaging and absurd prosecutions” and “increase censorship”.

She suggested that a pornographic photo or film of a child should not be considered indecent unless it could be shown that the subject had suffered, and that prosecutors would have to prove harm rather than defendants having to justify themselves.

Her submission states: “Although this harm may be of a somewhat speculative nature, where participation falls short of physical assault, it is none-the-less justifiable to restrain activities by photographer which involve placing children under the age of 14 (or, arguably, 16) in sexual situations.

“We suggest that the term 'indecent’ be qualified as follows: – A photograph or film shall not for this purpose be considered indecent (a) by reason only that the model is in a state of undress (whether complete or partial); (b) unless it is proved or is to be inferred from the photograph or film that the making of the photograph or film might reasonably be expected to have caused the model physical harm or pronounced psychological or emotional disorder.”

It adds: “Our amendment places the onus of proof on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed.”

Miss Harman left NCCL in 1982 when she was elected MP for Camberwell and Peckham, by which time several members of PIE had been jailed for conspiracy to corrupt public morals.

A spokesman for Miss Harman said: “She has always opposed child pornography and has never supported PIE and to suggest that she did is untrue and misleading.

“NCCL’s approach to the protection of children’s bill was to argue for clear definitions in the bill to make sure the law was precise so that it was about child protection and not about censorship.”

The spokesman added: “PIE had been excluded from the NCCL before she became legal officer.”

However press cuttings from 1983 make it clear that it was still considered an “affiliate group”.

rainbowdrop
24-05-2010, 11:53 AM
Being a truth seeker I know I shouldn't be shocked at this.BUT I AM,when will this hell were living in ever end.xxx

cleopatraxxx
24-05-2010, 12:19 PM
Being a truth seeker I know I shouldn't be shocked at this.BUT I AM,when will this hell were living in ever end.xxx

i' d be the first to stand outside if any sort of planetary destruction was on it's way. i could care the least for living on this planet anymore.
i want out of here once and for all.
humanity has been corrupted from all sides.
the minority is too small to do any change.
i do not believe things will ever get better.
the quicker we nuke ourselves leaving this planet to renew itself without the parasitic "humanity" in it, the better for the planet and it's mineral and plant worlds.
sorry for beeing so sincere...

guzla
24-05-2010, 12:19 PM
“Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters."

“The child touches all parts of their father’s body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same.”

SICK

zephiloyd
24-05-2010, 12:25 PM
and now this:


Pupils aged 11 debate rape, pornography and prostitution

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1280783/Lessons-rape-porn-pupils-aged-11.html#ixzz0oqShCMfQ

freedom1st
24-05-2010, 12:27 PM
i' d be the first to stand outside if any sort of planetary destruction was on it's way. i could care the least for living on this planet anymore.
i want out of here once and for all.
humanity has been corrupted from all sides.
the minority is too small to do any change.
i do not believe things will ever get better.
the quicker we nuke ourselves leaving this planet to renew itself without the parasitic "humanity" in it, the better for the planet and it's mineral and plant worlds.
sorry for beeing so sincere...

I hear ya!

pipsicle
24-05-2010, 12:58 PM
This evil has to come to light so we can defeat it.

ozpixie
24-05-2010, 01:40 PM
i' d be the first to stand outside if any sort of planetary destruction was on it's way. i could care the least for living on this planet anymore.
i want out of here once and for all.
humanity has been corrupted from all sides.
the minority is too small to do any change.
i do not believe things will ever get better.
the quicker we nuke ourselves leaving this planet to renew itself without the parasitic "humanity" in it, the better for the planet and it's mineral and plant worlds.
sorry for beeing so sincere...

No need to apologise because I think most of us in here are totally disgusted beyond words at the wickedness that is going on. The PTB truly are barking mad and criminally insane. Nuking would hurt the animals and plant life and they don't deservet that kind of end. We have hurt them too much already. I feel hopeful, I can't say why but I do. :)

djhooker
24-05-2010, 01:54 PM
i'm gonna say this for the 1000th time, time for project mayhem.

freedom1st
24-05-2010, 02:28 PM
i'm gonna say this for the 1000th time, time for project mayhem.

I'll meet you outside.:D

passing
24-05-2010, 02:30 PM
This evil has to come to light so we can defeat it.

Fingers crossed for that.

clive w
24-05-2010, 03:16 PM
Infinite love is the only truth and everything else is illusion?
Infinite Sickness is the only truth and everything else is real, too...

This is fuckin hell.

If infinite consciousness are generating this illusion, then infinite consciousness is infinite sickness. This game is going too far. This experience is too sick.

Holy fuckin hell.

freedom1st
24-05-2010, 03:36 PM
Infinite love is the only truth and everything else is illusion?
Infinite Sickness is the only truth and everything else is real, too...

This is fuckin hell.

If infinite consciousness are generating this illusion, then infinite consciousness is infinite sickness. This game is going too far. This experience is too sick.

Holy fuckin hell.

Yep indeedy. There must be somewhere we can go to esape this madness.
Even if it means going to another place and just ignoring the info - I think I would now prefer to live in ignorance away from this parasitic society that infuses evil into people who are unaware. This place is a f*cking loony bin!

clive w
24-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Yeah... I walked today through a beautiful forest, layed myself on the ground, closed my eyes and got the frickin sun shined on my damn ass. Living could be so easy. Eating some wild fruits, have a walk, sleeping in a fuckin cave... away from this cancer-colony.

But I want to chance this shit, too... I want to bring this shit to an end.
But how!?

xeon
24-05-2010, 03:59 PM
This should be a sticky

informationtransit
24-05-2010, 04:19 PM
From what i can gather, the booklet was banned.

This is a google translation of a German article featured in "Spiegel Online" on 30th July 2007.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,497527,00.html&ei=NpX6S-aIIZ_80wT01JXqBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,druck-497527,00.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG


And this is the original one in German.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,druck-497527,00.html

refusetoconsent
24-05-2010, 04:26 PM
i'm gonna say this for the 1000th time, time for project mayhem.


+1000

carrot
24-05-2010, 05:17 PM
The Booklet was banned in 2007

Welcome to DI "Today's News" Forum

clive w
24-05-2010, 05:18 PM
From what i can gather, the booklet was banned.

This is a google translation of a German article featured in "Spiegel Online" on 30th July 2007.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,497527,00.html&ei=NpX6S-aIIZ_80wT01JXqBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,druck-497527,00.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG


And this is the original one in German.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,druck-497527,00.html

I´m from Germany. I´ve read the article... and yes, it´s banned.
But the flyer are still at all the kindergarten n stuff...
And the pdf file is still circulating in the web, I think.

clive w
24-05-2010, 05:22 PM
The Booklet was banned in 2007

Welcome to DI "Today's News" Forum

It´s very, very interesting and important anyway...
So keep cool, dude.

hadabusa
24-05-2010, 05:39 PM
The Booklet was banned in 2007

Welcome to DI "Today's News" Forum

what i previously stated.

it went ignored by everybody.


sometimes it seems like popular opinion beats reason here.

the best is, "must be sticky".
yeah, so every1 can see stuff isnt researched here.




however, there seems to be a legislature for anti pedo defamation, whoever proposed this needs a lobotomy.


the flyers certainly arent in kindergardens, bc,uhm, itd be illegal .

btw,who banned it?govt.respect4that.

liami
24-05-2010, 07:05 PM
i' d be the first to stand outside if any sort of planetary destruction was on it's way. i could care the least for living on this planet anymore.
i want out of here once and for all.
humanity has been corrupted from all sides.
the minority is too small to do any change.
i do not believe things will ever get better.
the quicker we nuke ourselves leaving this planet to renew itself without the parasitic "humanity" in it, the better for the planet and it's mineral and plant worlds.
sorry for beeing so sincere...

My back is to the sun because the light is too intense
I can see what everybody in the world is up against
But i stay here, maybe to lead the hand of fate
But i don't know how much longer iiiiiiiiii can wait!


Bob Dylan ! He knows ya know.:)

leoo
24-05-2010, 07:29 PM
I, for one, welcome our pedophile overlords.

soul_traveller
24-05-2010, 07:56 PM
Even if the material was banned and the website is not correct,
It still shows the kind of psychos whom are in positions of influence.
Time to wake up.

I get some very strange comments on this forum else where in the past whom think that abuse of a 12 year old girl for example is not pedophila they call it something else and that pedophile is only associated with toddlers etc not older children.

Hello???? I don't give a shit, child abuse is child abuse, end of bloody story!!!! :mad:

Some people here need some serious help! Its a classic of someone coming from a total lack of empathy, and most likely they have issues coming to the surface. :(

snapdragon
24-05-2010, 08:15 PM
I get some very strange comments on this forum else where in the past whom think that abuse of a 12 year old girl for example is not pedophila they call it something else and that pedophile is only associated with toddlers etc not older children.

Hello???? I don't give a shit, child abuse is child abuse, end of bloody story!!!! :mad:
:(

I think the issue here is MSM lumping all sorts of things together. Letching at a sexually attractive teenager is not abuse. It is not abusive, it is merely somewhat inappropriate in these modern times. Then there is the other end of the scale which I can't find words for.

soul_traveller
24-05-2010, 11:44 PM
What the hell are you talking about?
Are you saying that raping a teenager is not abuse???


I think the issue here is MSM lumping all sorts of things together. Letching at a sexually attractive teenager is not abuse. It is not abusive, it is merely somewhat inappropriate in these modern times. Then there is the other end of the scale which I can't find words for.

iwant_tobreak_free
25-05-2010, 12:51 AM
I think the issue here is MSM lumping all sorts of things together. Letching at a sexually attractive teenager is not abuse. It is not abusive, it is merely somewhat inappropriate in these modern times. Then there is the other end of the scale which I can't find words for.

yeah snapdragon, there are some fit teen girlz.

however touching a 3 year old is just weird,

elcribbo
25-05-2010, 02:21 AM
You people are so gullible it's unbelievable.

hadabusa
25-05-2010, 02:24 AM
You people are so gullible it's unbelievable.

be a bit more precise plz.

joel1212
25-05-2010, 03:38 AM
i dont believe this site

1977
25-05-2010, 03:49 AM
From what i can gather, the booklet was banned.

This is a google translation of a German article featured in "Spiegel Online" on 30th July 2007.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,497527,00.html&ei=NpX6S-aIIZ_80wT01JXqBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,druck-497527,00.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG


And this is the original one in German.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,druck-497527,00.html
Exactly. This article is pure sensationalism.

It's like terrorism; just cry "child pornography" and suddenly everyone clamors for more government surveillance.

hobo
25-05-2010, 05:33 AM
This is beyond sick. I´m lost for words..:eek:

snapdragon
25-05-2010, 07:16 AM
What the hell are you talking about?
Are you saying that raping a teenager is not abuse???

WHAT!? Is English your third language?

ritchs
25-05-2010, 08:06 AM
I think something is not quite right with this news being accurate. The fact that it is published on the web does not make it fact.

The original websites that published this info sound like it is some sort of PsychOp.

I never heard of these websites before, this needs some looking into before I get riled along with everyone else

I mean think about just how outrageous it is.
Like the Jerry springer show masquerading as real life

clive w
25-05-2010, 08:16 AM
These stuff is real.. I visited some german sites... and this material really were released.

@ soul_traveller: Some really weird people over here... give a shit. :)

spock
25-05-2010, 08:51 AM
we sure are in deep deep trouble if we don't stand up against this.

oneup
25-05-2010, 08:54 AM
The link posted by the OP is not an official source - I don't believe it until someone shows me one.

ozpixie
25-05-2010, 10:26 AM
I think something is not quite right with this news being accurate. The fact that it is published on the web does not make it fact.

The original websites that published this info sound like it is some sort of PsychOp.

I never heard of these websites before, this needs some looking into before I get riled along with everyone else

I mean think about just how outrageous it is.
Like the Jerry springer show masquerading as real life

I agree that there is a lot of crap and nonsense on the Web but I have seen the German Government pamphlet and a German newspaper story about this as well. I have also seen a newspaper article from one of the British newspapers announcing that the DHS had a program within their sex education curriculum to support an orgasm a day for schoolchildren. You wouldnt have to try very hard to do a search to find them. I feel quite sure that if there was no substance to the stories that the Governments would have taken action or at least made some kind of statement of rebuttal given the sensitivity of the topics at hand.

rainbowdrop
25-05-2010, 11:52 AM
I'm still shocked over this subject,I looked into it last night & found you can still download the booklet on how to abuse your child.The frightening thing is,how long before they try to get parents to follow the guidelines in the booklet again. I hope if they do try to get parents to follow this booklet in future, it may be the one thing that tips us over the edge,enough is enough.xxx

spock
25-05-2010, 12:21 PM
The link posted by the OP is not an official source - I don't believe it until someone shows me one.good call.
i still get fired up about stuff.
without checking it first. :mad:
it's hard not to when the subject matter is so awfull.

clive w
25-05-2010, 03:05 PM
IT`s FUCKIN REAL, ALLRIGHT?

hadabusa
25-05-2010, 03:40 PM
IT`s FUCKIN REAL, ALLRIGHT?

and "fuckin" outlawed, its too.