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tinmenace
06-10-2007, 05:38 AM
This is one sick asshole. :mad:
DETROIT -- A U.S. Justice Department official has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a minor.
An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police.
Prosecutors said Atchison flew from Pensacola, Fla., to Detroit on Sunday intending to have sex with the 5-year-old girl.
In deposition, detectives said Atchison suggested the mother tell her daughter that "you found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents."
The undercover detective expressed concern about physical injury to the 5-year-old girl as a result of the sexual activity. Detectives said Atchison responded, " I am always gentle and loving; not to worry, no damage ever, no rough stuff ever. I only like it soft and nice."
[Soft and nice? Sick bastard :rolleyes:]
The undercover detective asked how Atchison can be certain of no injury. He responded, "Just gotta go slow and very easy. I've done it plenty," according to detectives.
Source (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14132485/detail.html)
And then this...
Prosecutor jailed on child-sex charges hangs himself [Thank you Jesus! Oh wait... maybe not]
DETROIT — A federal prosecutor from Florida who was jailed after allegedly flying to Detroit to have sex with a child, committed suicide Friday.
He was arrested Sept. 16 after flying into Detroit Metropolitan Airport. He was carrying a Dora the Explorer doll, hoop earrings and petroleum jelly, prosecutors said.
"We are deeply saddened to learn of the death of John Roy Atchison,' lawyer James Thomas of Detroit said in a statement.
"Our heartfelt regrets go out to his wife and children, his parents and his brothers," Thomas said. "This is a man who has done a lot of good in his life. Unfortunately, he is going to be judged by his most recent charges and what we have read in the media, and not by the goodness, hard work or by the love of his family." :rolleyes: [And apparently by his own admission raped little girls, but we'll just skip right over that part, won't we asshole?]
The Orlando Sentinel reported last year that another Florida prosecutor, who worked in Rockwall County, killed himself after police said he was caught soliciting sex with a minor.
Source (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-10-05-prosecutor-suicide_N.htm)
Pensacola News Journal's article HERE (http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071005/NEWS01/71005021/1006)
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...........http://www.globalfailure.com/images/fuckheadatchison.jpg
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 05:57 AM
Another one...
Ladies and Gentlemen (and anyone in between), this is the reptilian brain at work and play...
Prosecutor Commits Suicide Over Sex Sting
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(AP) A prosecutor killed himself as police tried to serve him with an arrest warrant alleging he solicited sex with a minor, authorities said.
Louis "Bill" Conradt Jr., 56, a chief felony assistant district attorney for Rockwall County, died Sunday. Police had moved to arrest Conradt following a sting operation aimed at exposing child sex predators set up by a television news program.
Police in the town of Murphy said Conradt had solicited sex from a decoy posing online as a 13-year-old. Murphy police were attempting to serve an arrest warrant and a search warrant for Conradt's computer when he shot himself, Murphy Police spokesman Sgt. Snow Robertson said.
The Dallas Morning News reported in its Monday editions that the sting was a joint operation between PERVERTED JUSTICE (http://www.perverted-justice.com/), an Internet watchdog group, and NBC's news magazine "Dateline." The sting lured men seeking sex with children to a house in Murphy, about 20 miles northeast of Dallas.
Source (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/06/national/main2156580.shtml)
The hypocrisy just kills me.
They make their living taking away the lives of people (which we know are often innocent), and they take away the childhood lives of minors by pursuing them sexually.
What a twisted fuckhead.
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 06:12 AM
Perverted Justice (http://www.perverted-justice.com/) is a group of people that identify online sex predators of children, and have helped the police prosecute many many of this sickos. On their WEBSITE they have a gallery of wankers.
This guy (http://www.perverted-justice.com/wankers/?archive=22#wankerfiles) caught my attention. Um, sticking things up his bum and using claws on his boys (no doubt his wife's hair clasps)...all the while showing this on webcam to someone he thought was a 15 year old girl.
What a doofus! :rolleyes:
limelady
06-10-2007, 02:54 PM
And we are forced to live on the same planet as those filthy fuckers!
Slime of the same ilk as that John Roy Atchison and Louis "Bill" Conradt Jr should be thrown into a mob of angry mothers of young children. They'd be torn apart within minutes.....and quite frankly even THAT is too good for them. There are none more evil than those who brutalise innocent children.
garth
06-10-2007, 03:05 PM
fucktards.....mow em down
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tinmenace
06-10-2007, 03:08 PM
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/john_couey.jpg
John Couey abducted beautiful Jessica Lunsford, raped her and buried her alive.
It's not just creepy guys like John Couey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that are monsters. As you can see from the first two posts on this thread, that even those very successful within the matrix can be complete monsters. It's just that the higher you are in the matrix, the more protection you enjoy.
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ghwb.jpg
Take people like GHWB. He's an accused pedophile, and he's still running this government by proxy.
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Just recently the case of Senator Larry Craig, a Republican (aka fascist dickwads), who was busted for soliciting sex in the men's lavatory at an airport...that's not the whole story about him, however. In the 80's his name came up in an investigation concerning sexual relations with male pages. - More Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=110890&postcount=3)
1982 Larry Craig denial, 1982 #2 - YouTube
Your denial means nothing Mr. Craig. The truth has finally revealed itself and it is obvious that you are a liar. Denying your true nature doesn't make it truth. I just find it interesting that your masters' puppets are trying to find a way for you not to resign your job. :rolleyes: No surprise there.
Once again, it's not what we see on the outside, including matrix achievements, that truly defines a person, because as we can see...on the inside (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10882) they are monsters.
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 03:13 PM
And we are forced to live on the same planet as those filthy fuckers!
Slime of the same ilk as that John Roy Atchison and Louis "Bill" Conradt Jr should be thrown into a mob of angry mothers of young children. They'd be torn apart within minutes.....and quite frankly even THAT is too good for them. There are none more evil than those who brutalise innocent children.
I share your rage. These are the fuckers in control of the planet which we are forced to share (with them). That's the worst part. The fucks are in charge of the henhouse.
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 03:27 PM
LOL@ Garth!
Yes, this Atchison guy just totally got my blood boiling, along with the official statements by police that suggested that nobody should assume that there were other victims (I can't find the exact article now).
He ADMITTED to it...so of COURSE there are other victims, especially since he was the coach of two girls' sports teams. They need to dig a little bit, if not to solve this all together, but to offer help to all victims.
Thing is, that these guys rarely work alone, they're usually connected to other pedophiles with whom they share their fantasies. I've even read accounts of them allowing their buddies to have their way with their own children or their own sex slaves.
Unreal!
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 03:55 PM
Retired FBI Agent And The Boy Scouts [These people have a whole different set of rules for themselves, don't they?]
A former Madison Boy Scout troop leader was indicted on charges Friday that he engaged in sexual activity with one of his Scouts in the mid-1990s.
He was indicted on four counts of traveling interstate with a minor for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity. Hutton was originally indicted Wednesday, but the indictment was sealed pending his arrest Friday morning by FBI agents.
Source (http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16065199&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517514&rfi=6)
Still a diversion, however. The Big Kahunas go untouched. Read on...
Death of accuser may end sex case
NEW HAVEN — Federal prosecutors have moved to dismiss sex charges against a retired FBI agent in response to the death of his accuser.
The charges against the former agent date back more than a decade to when he was a Boy Scout leader.
Prosecutor John A. Danaher III moved to dismiss the indictment on Dec. 19, citing the accuser’s "sudden and unexpected death."
Source (http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17667984&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517514&rfi=6)
:eek: Yeah, Ok..... :rolleyes:
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 04:42 PM
Meet Mark Foley (aka Mark Phony).
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A former member of the US House of Representatives (from the 16th District of Florida) seems to like underage Congressional pages too. He and his buddy Larry Craig (amongst MANY others, I'm sure!). These guys just get sloppy, and they're ousted by their their own, so that nobody digs too deep and uncovers the MASSIVE child molestation culture that goes on in Washington DC (and elsewhere).
Rep. Foley Quits In Page Scandal
Explicit Online Notes Sent to Boy, 16
Six-term Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) resigned yesterday amid reports that he had sent sexually explicit Internet messages to at least one underage male former page.
Which included:
Maf54: do you really do it face down
Teen: ya
Maf54: kneeling
Teen: well i don't use my hand...i use the bed itself
Maf54: where do you unload it
Teen: towel
Maf54: really
Maf54: completely naked?
Teen: well ya
Maf54: very nice
Teen: lol
Maf54: cute butt bouncing in the air
and...
Maf54: I want to see you
Teen: Like I said not til feb…then we will go to dinner
Maf54: and then what happens
Teen: we eat...we drink...who knows...hang out...late into the night
Maf54: and
Teen: I dunno
Maf54: dunno what
Teen: hmmm I have the feeling that you are fishing here...
im not sure what I would be comfortable with...well see
and...
Maf54: ok..i better go vote..did you know you would have this effect on me
Teen: lol I guessed
Teen: ya go vote…I don't want to keep you from doing our job
Maf54: can I have a good kiss goodnight
Teen: :-*
Teen: <kiss>
and...
Maf54: we will be adjourned ny then
Teen: oh good
Maf54: by
Maf54: then we can have a few drinks
Maf54: lol
Teen: yes yes ;-)
Maf54: your not old enough to drink
Teen: shhh…
Maf54: ok
Teen: that's not what my ID says
Teen: lol
Maf54: ok
Teen: I probably shouldn't be telling you that huh
Maf54: we may need to drink at my house so we don't get busted
and...
Teen: im not 18 till feb 23
Maf54: i know.
Maf54: nothing will happen
Maf54: just dreaming
Maf54: don't worry
Teen: ya im still 17 till feb 23
Maf54: see you feb 24th
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_Scandal)
The resignation rocked the Capitol, and especially Foley's GOP colleagues... :rolleyes:
House Majority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Washington Post last night that he had learned this spring of inappropriate "contact" between Foley and a 16-year-old page. Boehner said he then told House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). Boehner later contacted The Post and said he could not remember whether he talked to Hastert. :rolleyes:
It was not immediately clear what actions Hastert took. His spokesman had said earlier that the speaker did not know of the sexually charged online exchanges between Foley and the boy. :rolleyes:
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) took the House floor last night to demand an investigation into the Foley matter. But Boehner headed her off :rolleyes:, calling on the House to refer the matter to the ethics committee, which the House promptly voted unanimously to do. [Boehner - Is that pronounced "Boner" or "Bonehead"?]
Foley chaired the House caucus on missing and exploited children and was credited with writing the sexual-predator provisions of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006, which Bush signed in July. A photo on the White House Web site shows Foley among those attending the signing ceremony. [Oh, the fucking hypocrisy of it all]
In 2003, Foley faced questions about his sexual orientation as he prepared to run for Sen. Bob Graham's post. At a news conference in May of that year, he said he would not comment on rumors that he was gay. He later decided not to seek the Senate seat to care for his parents. :rolleyes:
Source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/29/AR2006092901574.html)
Legislation regarding pornography and sexual offenses
In the House, Foley was one of the foremost opponents of child pornography. :rolleyes: Foley had served as chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. He introduced a bill, coined the "Child Modeling Exploitation prevention Act of 2002" to outlaw web sites featuring sexually suggestive images of preteen children, saying that “these websites are nothing more than a fix for pedophiles.” As it was written, the bill would have prohibited commercial photography of children, and it failed due to the unmanageable burden it would have presented to the legitimate entertainment industry. In June 2003 he wrote letters to the governor and attorney general of Florida, asking them to review the legality of a program for teenagers of a Lake Como nudist resort in Land o’ Lakes, Florida.
Foley’s legislation to change federal sex offender laws was supported by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, America’s Most Wanted host John Walsh, and a number of victims’ rights groups. President Bush signed it into law as part of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006.
Foley also succeeded in getting a law passed that allows volunteer youth-serving organizations like the Boy Scouts of America and Boys and Girls Clubs to have access to FBI fingerprint background checks.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley#Senate_campaigns)
Dickwad and his Dickwad buddy...
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/foley_and_bush.jpg
"Yeah, and I was like EEEK that tickles!...."
soglad
06-10-2007, 04:47 PM
Can't you people not see that these rapists are equally as hurt as the victims? What happened to infinite love?
I know I'm going against the grain here, but getting more angry and rolling more heads won't solve anything....these people are just the by-produst of a seriously sick society....don't blame it fully on them....
Although.....seriously.....sick fuckers all the same.
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 05:13 PM
Can't you people not see that these rapists are equally as hurt as the victims? What happened to infinite love?
I know I'm going against the grain here, but getting more angry and rolling more heads won't solve anything....these people are just the by-produst of a seriously sick society....don't blame it fully on them....
Although.....seriously.....sick fuckers all the same.
Not all victims perpetuate this abusive behavior. We are all responsible for our actions. Freedom with responsibility, remember?
neutron flux
06-10-2007, 05:25 PM
Can't you people not see that these rapists are equally as hurt as the victims? What happened to infinite love?
I know I'm going against the grain here, but getting more angry and rolling more heads won't solve anything....these people are just the by-produst of a seriously sick society....don't blame it fully on them....
The rapists are psychopaths soglad. No remorse. No conscience. No empathy. No emotion. No guilt. No soul?
They walk among us and are usually the pillar of society:
Word of Atchison's death spread quickly through where Atchison lived as a pillar of the community for more than two decades.
Even the notorious BTK(Bound,Torture,Kill) killer was the pillar of the community and did a lot of work for the local church.
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 05:29 PM
The rapists are psychopaths soglad. No remorse. No conscience. No empathy. No emotion. No guilt. No soul?
They walk among us and are usually the pillar of society:
Even the notorious BTK(Bound,Torture,Kill) killer was the pillar of the community and did a lot of work for the local church.
No soul. This is something I've been wanting to discuss for quite some time. Do you think that there are people amongst us that are simply just empty shells, operating only on a matrix program. No soul, in other words, just a program. Or, do you think that the reptilian brain is so dominant that it has completely oppressed and suppressed any human within?
soglad
06-10-2007, 05:47 PM
I hate to think like that. I hate to say that I have a soul and that someone else doesn't, and that they're a robot....it's very egotistical, and damn mean....I think everyone has the infinite potential to change....some find it harder than others.
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 05:55 PM
I hate to think like that. I hate to say that I have a soul and that someone else doesn't, and that they're a robot....it's very egotistical, and damn mean....I think everyone has the infinite potential to change....some find it harder than others.
I know, it's so difficult for me to process this. I've been chewing on it for months, and I've asked a few members (via pm) what their take on it was. I can't really accept that there are empty shells amongst us. I'm not saying it's impossible, but the thought feels very strange to me.
But, I look at some people who just fit into the box, and do the "acceptable society" thing and they always seem like drones to me. But, soulless? Dunno :confused:
I guess we have to define soulless first. Is this someone completely devoid of a soul and spirit, as we understand it? A computer program within a body?
Stepfords?
soglad
06-10-2007, 06:00 PM
People who willingly make themselves insignificant, are "soulless". They lack any will to better themselves.
neutron flux
06-10-2007, 06:06 PM
No soul. This is something I've been wanting to discuss for quite some time. Do you think that there are people amongst us that are simply just empty shells, operating only on a matrix program. No soul, in other words, just a program. Or, do you think that the reptilian brain is so dominant that it has completely oppressed and suppressed any human within?
It seems that they don't have a soul. I mean the levels of depravity they go to just to get their kicks, just makes you feel sick. Anyone (IMO) with just a spark of a soul just couldn't do what they do.
I think you're right that they are just empty shells running programs. I don't know if you subscribe to the hypothesis of the lizzies being 4d, but it seems that the psychos are used as playing pieces in the matrix and are easily influenced by them, because they don't have the components of empathy and conscience that normal humans have to kick in.
I think the fallacy that is banded around our society is that there is good in everyone, but this doesn't seem to be the case. People think psychos can get help and be cured - they can't.
What do you think, no soul?
neutron flux
06-10-2007, 06:13 PM
I hate to think like that. I hate to say that I have a soul and that someone else doesn't, and that they're a robot....it's very egotistical, and damn mean...
I don't think it's egotistical or mean to suggest that some people don't have a soul. If someone can lie, cheat, steal, torture, murder, rape children and have absolutely no remorse or conscience about that I don't think it's unreasonable to consider that they don't have a soul. IMO
soglad
06-10-2007, 06:14 PM
I'm always hopeful a person can change, is all I'm saying..
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 06:15 PM
It seems that they don't have a soul. I mean the levels of depravity they go to just to get their kicks, just makes you feel sick. Anyone (IMO) with just a spark of a soul just couldn't do what they do.
I think you're right that they are just empty shells running programs. I don't know if you subscribe to the hypothesis of the lizzies being 4d, but it seems that the psychos are used as playing pieces in the matrix and are easily influenced by them, because they don't have the components of empathy and conscience that normal humans have to kick in.
I think the fallacy that is banded around our society is that there is good in everyone, but this doesn't seem to be the case. People think psychos can get help and be cured - they can't.
What do you think, no soul?
Yes, I totally believe in 4th dimension control and reptilian agenda. Gotta run for now, will come back to this discussion. Thanks for the input.
neutron flux
06-10-2007, 06:34 PM
I'm always hopeful a person can change, is all I'm saying.. .
I know what you mean, I used to think the same thing until I read up on psychopathy and discovered from studies that any rehabilitation actually made them worse - they just became more effective psychopaths! :eek:
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 10:40 PM
ACLU exec busted for child porn in court today
Former Virginia chapter president accused of downloading graphic assault videos
A former American Civil Liberties Union executive,Charles Rust-Tierney, 51, who once argued that Internet filters in libraries that limited children's access to pornography would interfere with their ability to learn and communicate, is facing a federal court hearing today on charges he possessed child pornography.
The explicitness of the offending videos is evidenced by the reports that in one of the scenes a prepubescent girl is "seen and heard crying" and another is described as "bound by rope."
Source (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54471)
The American Civil Liberties Union...LIBERTY? Really? :rolleyes:
The girl bound and crying wasn't experiencing much liberty, was she now?
We have monsters in power, y'all. These are the people that are in the position to make laws, and to enforce them.
No photo available but I found this lookalike:
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tinmenace
06-10-2007, 10:53 PM
Of course it doesn't help that there are apologist judges that are lenient on these monsters. Some even get their very own TV shows! Take Judge Maria Lopez (aka Stoopid Beeotch)...
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Consider the recent case of Judge Maria Lopez involving Charles "Ebony" Horton. Horton pleaded guilty to the attempted rape of an 11-year-old boy. Not only did Lopez minimize the serious nature of this crime, she also granted the criminal parole. Lopez sent Horton back to his home in Boston's public housing community, an environment with a large number of children. :eek:
Source (http://wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21607)
Lopez's career as a judge in Massachusetts ended after she sparked public outrage for ordering a sentence of mere probation for a transvestite man who raped an 11-year-old boy. She also scolded the prosecutor in the courtroom when the prosecutor raised concerns over the lenient sentence. The combination of sentence and public outburst led to popular criticism and an official investigation of her behavior on the bench. In 2003, a hearing officer ruled that Lopez had lied under oath, showed bias against prosecutors and abused her office, and ordered a six-month suspension and a public apology.
Lopez resigned, and later made a deal with the state Commission on Judicial Conduct: She would apologize for berating a court officer without admitting she had violated the judicial code.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Maria_Lopez#Controversy)
Stoopid Beeotch's website (http://www.judgemarialopez.com/index.php)
Remarkable, isn't it? How do these monster-apologists get away with this shit?
neutron flux
06-10-2007, 11:01 PM
Twisted minds!
Here's an article from the UK on a paedo ring that was busted:
Monica McCanch presented a well-dressed face of confident respectability to the world. She worked for Pfizer, the pharmaceutical company, in Kent before taking redundancy last year for a new life in Jamaica, where she planned to invest in eco-tourism.
She told friends that she was making a fresh start after the break-up of her 29-year marriage to Norman McCanch, a well-regarded naturalist. But she was also trying to leave behind the disturbing secret of her involvement in a paedophile ring that subjected a number of children to repeated abuse and posted videos of their torment on the internet.
Yesterday the past caught up with McCanch, 55, when she pleaded guilty to four offences of sexual activity with a child and one of engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child. She stood, head bowed, at Maidstone Crown Court, as Judge Jeremy Carey told her that her crimes were grave and jailed her for six years.
Gone were the smart clothes, hair dye and make-up. McCanch was silver-grey and, with her gold-rimmed glasses, seemed almost grandmotherly in appearance. McCanch had returned voluntarily to Britain to admit her part in the offences. A professed Christian, her Bible has been her constant companion during ten months in custody on remand. When she was arrested at Heathrow last November, five suicide letters were found in her luggage. In a letter to the court she wrote: “I will carry this to my grave.”
Six years! She ruined those kids lives!
Also in the dock were Archibald Wood, her former lover, and Steven Horton, the man who had provided two children, aged 12 and 13, for the trio to subject to what police say was “horrific abuse” over a six-hour period one afternoon in June 2005.
Wood, 60, is an Oxford law graduate who spent 19 years in the Army, serving in the Falklands and Northern Ireland, before working for the Ministry of Defence in Whitehall.
He had had a long sexual relationship with McCanch, unknown to her husband, which involved group-sex parties and pornography.
At the time of his arrest last year, he was chairman of the board of governors at Tavistock Community College in Devon — a post that required him to have child protection training — and a governor of a primary school. He admitted nine offences, including arranging child sex abuse and distributing indecent images of children, and asked for seventeen others to be taken into consideration. He was jailed for six years.
Horton, 44, from Sittingbourne, Kent, is a father who worked as a warehouse supervisor and was a regular on his local golf course and an enthusiastic five-a-side footballer. He admitted 28 offences ranging from child rape, sexual assault and arranging the commission of child sex offences to distributing indecent images. The judge imposed an indeterminate sentence on him and said he would serve 5½years before being considered for parole.
Afterwards Detective Superintendent David Shipley, of the Kent Police public protection crime unit, said: “The public perception of the paedophile is the dirty old man in a mac with big round glasses and living at home with his mother. These offenders were seemingly respectable, professional people. You wouldn’t look at them twice if you walked past them in the street.”
Horton was the starting point for Operation Starlight, which is still unearthing new offenders and is seeing its reach spread around the world. Six children living in Britain have been rescued from abusive situations, but images of their ordeals have been distributed through paedophile chat rooms and newsgroups, prompting criminal investigations as far afield as Slovenia and Venezuela.
The Kent police investigation followed an electronic evidence trail from Horton’s computer to that of Vincent Jordan, from Worsley, Manchester. Jordan, 47, lived an outwardly respectable life as a father of two small daughters with a job as an IT consultant. But late at night, when his wife and children were asleep, Jordan logged on to a chatroom called Taboo Incest and became the puppetmaster of a network of paedophiles who abused children in accordance with his detailed instructions.
Online, he posed as a woman who was prepared to offer her own children for sex if his chat-room contacts could prove through deeds and pictures that they were genuine abusers. To please Jordan — who will be sentenced next month after admitting 20 offences — paedophiles across Britain sent pictures and videos of their sadistic assaults which he compiled in a private library.
Horton became one of the puppets, regularly arranging the sexual abuse of three children at Jordan’s behest. His activity was eventually discovered when his partner stumbled upon e-mails between him and Jordan arranging a liaison to abuse children and the investigation began.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2448998.ece?EMC-Bltn
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 11:06 PM
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/nathaniel_barjonah.jpg
Nathaniel Benjamin Levi Bar-Jonah (born David P. Brown on February 15, 1957, in Worcester, Massachusetts) is a convicted felon currently serving a 130-year prison sentence without the possibility of parole in Montana after being convicted of kidnapping, aggravated assault, and sexual assault of multiple children. Though he was never convicted of the charges, he was also suspected of murder and cannibalism.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Bar-Jonah)
Sickening, and equally as sickening were the judges' actions:
I'm talking about people such as Suffolk Superior Court Judge Walter Steele, who once had the power to keep a dangerous pedophile of the worst imaginable kind, behind bars. In 1991, Nathaniel Bar-Jonah, now a suspected serial killer and cannibal living in Montana, stood before him asking for release. He was then doing time for five felony charges of kidnapping, impersonating a police officer and attempted murder.
Bar-Jonah has most recently been charged with the murder of a 10-year-old boy and numerous other assaults on children. The skeletal remains of at least one child were found scattered around outside his Montana home.
Bar-Jonah, who was called David Brown until the early 1990s, served more than a decade in Massachusetts prisons and treatment centers. He was there for the kidnapping and attempted murder of two boys in Massachusetts in the late 1970s.
At the 1991 hearing before Judge Steele, two psychiatrists said he was still a danger to society, two said he was not. Steele, who must be a gambling man, sided with the two who thought Bar-Jonah would not victimize again. They cited such cockamamie reasons as Bar-Jonah's improved self-esteem, thanks to a job in the canteen at the Bridgewater, Mass., treatment center where he was held, and courses in journalism and religion.
What the two psychiatrists who argued against his release told Judge Steele was that Bar-Jonah had sexual fantasies about human dissection and cannibalism. Gosh, Judge Steele, don't you know that when someone tells you who they are you should listen to them? More to the point, when the safety of little kids is at stake, why would you take such a stupid gamble?
If you can believe it, this story gets worse. Just a few months after he was paroled in 1991, Bar-Jonah was arrested again -- this time he was charged with attacking a 7-year-old boy in Oxford, Mass. Back to jail, right? Wrong, because of a plea-bargain arrangement with Judge Sarkus Teshonian of Dudley District Court, Bar-Jonah was simply allowed to go to Montana to live with his mother. Did anyone bother to tell Montana authorities he was coming? Nah, why bother? The family of the little boy who Bar-Jonah attacked in Oxford rejected this plea-bargain arrangement numerous times when it was offered. Finally, they have said, it was forced on them.
At the time, Bar-Jonah's mother promised he would never hurt anybody again. Newsflash: Isn't this the same lady who raised this wacko to begin with? If she were able to control his behavior, why didn't she do it when he was younger? More to the point, Bar-Jonah is a grown man and he is the one who should be held responsible for his behavior, not his Mommy.
Source (http://wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21607)
tinmenace
06-10-2007, 11:11 PM
Twisted minds!
Six years! She ruined those kids lives!
WTF? And they want to send Lisa Nowak (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495) to prison for life for pepper-spraying another woman...how does any of this make any sense??
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 03:31 AM
Remember this dickwad from page 1 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11173) of this thread?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/contradt.jpg
I didn't know this, but Perverted Justice helped expose this monster....
Breaking News: Conradt had child porn
The story of Louis Conradt Jr. and why he killed himself just became far more clear. The media has certainly spun enough "theories" as to why Conradt shot himself. Some in the media blamed us, some in the media blamed Dateline NBC, some in the media blamed the police who conducted the search warrant in Texas. Of course, none in the media actually did much of an investigation. Had they done so, they would have discovered something that renders all the idiotic conjecture we've had to deal with moot...
Louis Conradt had a large child pornography collection.
Louis Conradt didn't shoot himself because he solicited an underage male decoy, he shot himself because he knew his secret life of pedophilia and child pornography was about to catch up with him. While none in the media seemed to care to dig for it, NBC news has uncovered the forensics report of the material found on Conradt's computer after his suicide. The result? Child pornography.
At the end of the day, Louis Conradt knew his secret life was about to be exposed. This prosecutor knew he was looking at more than a conviction for solicitation, he was looking at hardcore jail time due to his collection of child pornography. He knew the law, he knew the consequences. He didn't have time to delete his hard drives and the evidence because the police moved quickly and properly to secure his residence and the evidence.
We will have full coverage of this important breaking news over the next few days, as we analyze the failure of various media sources in actually uncovering the truth about Louis Conradt. Literally, reporters focused on writing "great crime fiction" rather than reporting the actual story. Check back for more information in the coming days.
Meanwhile, We invite you to meet Louis Conradt Jr (http://www.perverted-justice.com/?archive=Inxs00) and discover the disturbing solicitation he attempted on what he thought was an underage child. We're sure that you will agree that this man was clearly out of control.
Perverted Justice file on Conradt (http://www.perverted-justice.com/?archive=Inxs00)
Dateline NBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20626117/)
garth
07-10-2007, 01:13 PM
No soul. This is something I've been wanting to discuss for quite some time. Do you think that there are people amongst us that are simply just empty shells, operating only on a matrix program. No soul, in other words, just a program. Or, do you think that the reptilian brain is so dominant that it has completely oppressed and suppressed any human within?
I think that a lot of these filthy fucktards have a "passenger" attached to them, a lower dimensional entity that attaches to them and promotes/amplifies there shadow self, blowing the balance right of the scales.
There has been some research into this particularly with schizophrenia and other mental disorders which have suggested that "possession" is very prevalent.
Of course in this scenario the impetus to perform these sick acts still has to be present in the person's shadow self, but without the "good" side to balance things out, the dark takes a hold and encourages these sickley acts.
This is not an excuse to let these sick fucks off the hook, not at all, but may help a normal loving individual rationalize seemingly un-human behavior that is totally foreign to our reality.
lydia78
07-10-2007, 03:54 PM
This is one sick asshole. :mad:
And then this...
Pensacola News Journal's article HERE (http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071005/NEWS01/71005021/1006)
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/loserr.gif
...........http://www.globalfailure.com/images/fuckheadatchison.jpg
OMG TIN!!
Excellent source of information btw...but sick fucking bastards
reminded me of this
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07073008.html
found on one of the one of the other theads...
paedophiles are in seats of power
and it has to STOP!
They have disengaged with the human race the moment they
partake in these atrocities...
victims may well repeat the cycles of abuse but the majority don't
It is all matter of responsibilty
I don't know many people who haven't been through serious hell in their lives
but would NEVER repeat the cycle EVER!!! There is no excuse for the paedophile mind set, none what so ever.
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 04:00 PM
I think that a lot of these filthy fucktards have a "passenger" attached to them, a lower dimensional entity that attaches to them and promotes/amplifies there shadow self, blowing the balance right of the scales.
There has been some research into this particularly with schizophrenia and other mental disorders which have suggested that "possession" is very prevalent.
Of course in this scenario the impetus to perform these sick acts still has to be present in the person's shadow self, but without the "good" side to balance things out, the dark takes a hold and encourages these sickley acts.
This is not an excuse to let these sick fucks off the hook, not at all, but may help a normal loving individual rationalize seemingly un-human behavior that is totally foreign to our reality.
Right. Lapis posted a very interesting story about an experience she had with a neighbor that was possessed. This demon tormented her, via her neighbor, for four years!
Anyway, thanks for your input, Garth. This does make more sense to me than mere soulless shells, although I would like to chew some more on the soulless matrix programs, just to make sure I don't like the taste :D
I'd like to quote Lapis's story:
Long ugly story short, my Mom owned and lived in that house since 1972. I moved in with her in 1991. We were forced to sell it (the morgage was long paid off, no rent ect) in June 2004. From 1995 through 2004 I completely wallpapered and painted the inside of the house and many other things, painted the outside of the house, dug up all the old landscape, spent every dollar I had on new trees, plants, fountain grasses (red fountain just like what you have Phoenix), bamboo, attached reed fencing to the chain link fence for more privacy, built lattace panels and bought a large fountain and on and on. It became a magical quater of an acre that people couldn't believe when they entered it. The energy was very high and the land itself was a portal or gridpoint so strange things and animals would come and go there often anyway. It was our job evidently to anchor that particular portal or grid....which we did.
Then in 2000 the house next door to us rented to these 2 half brothers with 2 pit bull dogs, dirt bikes (motor cycles), guns, lots and lots of trashy junky crap, trucks that didn't run, drugs, constant beer drinking and other things I won't mention publically. Dark sex stuff.... The one guy was possessed and it was that entity functioning through the one guy that was really manipulating all of them including the dogs and their many alcoholic friends. I'm leaving the worst most negative stuff out btw! Anyway, they move in and I'm already in a world of hurt from my own ascension process that started in 1998. But now, it's Show Time in the worst of ways!
The one brother started drinking when he woke up in the morning, did speed when he could get it, and.......played his drums while tweaking on meth. For 4 YEARS. The dogs got chained up as close to our house as they could get them and they barked for around 15 hours a day. When the young pit bull wasn't barking, the one guy was drumming for 4-7 hours a day. They shot guns at us from about 20 feet away.....the cops did nothing year after year after year. All this with my senses totally maxed out and in the red zone anyway! I lived with earplugs in the house. When I called the police about the many problems with these guys, I was the one who they blamed and threatened because I wasn't a threat to the cops like the insane gun toting guys next door where. It was a no-win situation for those 4 years and I was under psychic attack and didn't even know it because I was so open anyway due to the severe ascension symptoms. You think it can't get any worse and it does, and it does again and again and I honestly almost didn't physically and emotionally survive. My Mom worried I'm have a break down because of the constant negativity and psychic and physical attacks from the guys and their unseen demonic entity.
Then one day I realized I was having foreign thoughts, thoughts that were very monotone and I knew I was in deep deep shit. I realized it was the demon inserting certain thoughts and suggestions because I'm very conscious of how I think and feel. I did a protection ritual that night after 3.5 years of getting beaten half to death, and within hours the entity revealed itself to me. I'd won, I'd passed the Initation, I'd survived barely, I'd done all the things I was supposed to do like call the police whom I hate and disrespect because they're no different than the neighbors for the most part! I'd faced all my personal fears repeatedly because of these neighbors and their invisible demonic female entity. I'd survived and it was time for us to move. That level of my personal Initiation was finished, we'd anchored the portal on and around Mom's property, faced my own fears repeatedly, and now we needed to release it all and sell the place. We sold it easily and moved into where we are now.
Some times these crazy, insane, unfair, brutal things and people that get put into our lives for a few minutes or years NOW are about us resolving polarity both in us and around us in the other people. In my case I needed a little shit demon attached to a pathetic guy to really take things to the limit because I never want to forget what polarity feels and looks like! Its about Light and Dark (polarity) beating the holy shit out of each other until we learn to vibrate ascend beyond it. When we've done or learned whatever it was that we were supposed to, its often time to move to a new place for the next phase etc etc.
Sorry for the long post but I now understand why I've not had the time to email you. All this had to happen first so I could finally share my Dark Night of the Soul and have it make sense to different people. It's a "process" and some of us have to go far deeper than others with it as I did. You won't and it's wonderful that you're energies alone turned that guy around and got him out of "your higher energetic space".
[And the follow up post....]
Another thing happened at about the 3 year mark with that possessed neighbor's little unseen puppet master demon. At that time I had a dear girlfriend who I shared most everything with. She knew about our ongoing problems with the neighbors/barking dog/7 hour drumming meth sessions/the many contacts with the police and most all of it. What I DIDN'T tell her about was that the demon had finally psychically revealed itself to me deliberately and what it looked like. I felt she didn't need to carry that image around in her head, so I didn't tell her and wouldn't have.
Then one day she called me to tell me about this weird dream she'd had a couple nights earlier. She told me her dream, and got to the part where she described this woman in the dream suddenly shapeshifting into a female demon looking thing, and she described it exactly as what I knew the possessed neighbor's demon looked it! I about lost it when I heard this. Without her knowing that this demon even existed and was the unseen cause of all the hell and misery I and my Mom had been living with for 3 years, she described it with every detail correct. I started crying because her dream was really a message from that entity to me, letting me know that it wasn't over yet! This is common with negative entities, if they run out of emotional energetic juice from one person or are cut off psychically, they'll make contact with that person's loved ones to keep the battle going.
I was forced to tell her the truth about the existence of the female demon and the whole story but I also was forced to break off our friendship for about 2 years ONLY to try and safeguard her from what I was going through. She and I had a strong psychic connection and this entity would have continued messing with her, so I ended our friendship. It was a good thing because she got pregnant only a few months later for the first time! But after we'd sold the house and moved, the battle was over on all levels. I waited another year and then this girlfriend and I reconnected, with her new baby, and I spilled my guts about it all. She said she didn't have any other dreams after that first one with the demon so thank god it all worked out just fine.
For me back then Phoenix, it was very helpful to spend 4 - 6 hours every few days outside in the sunlight getting muddy and dirty planting plants and moving boulders around! I think it helped me stay grounded and alive during everything I was going through. Afterwards I've go in the house and crawl into bed with severe "ascension flu" symptoms and shiver and ache like mad for hours. Life....isn't 3D polarity reality one hell of a place to experience the absolute best and worst of things? It's wonderful watching this polarity being resolved by us, in us, through us.
Credit (http://************************.org/viewtopic.php?t=47&start=60)
This this from Archangel (WOGHD) in the same forum, different thread:
It's just so wierd. I'm a computer programmer, and if I were to try to program a "matrix" there would be various "archeotypes" that I would cut and paste all around to fill it out. And it's so strange. I was at a public laundro-mat and noticed one. I'd seen her before somewhere on the other coast 2000 miles away. I realized I was looking at another "copy". A single-mom ex-hippie. I knew it just by looking at her...and I'm starting to get so ON TO THIS, that I can spot it more often. So as an experiment, I went to her and asked for change for a dollar. "Huh? Wha?" was her reaction. "Do you have some quarters?" I asked. "Huh? What do you want? Why are you talking to me?" was her response! The kids acted like nothing was going on, inspite of the fact that the mother was clearly in distress, they just kept playing not skipping a beat! "I was just wondering if you had change for a dollar" I continued. "No, I don't know what you are talking about."...so I left.
Don't know what I'm talking about? Nobody ever asked her for change for a dollar before? She spoke perfect English. She was caucasian, brown hair, mid-20s, with a handsewn shirt/blouse and a flower headband. Anyone seen her? It was almost as if I'd disrupted a computer program with a request it didn't understand. The two kids reacted as if I was invisible, which I also found wierd. I have two kids, they are human, and I can tell you that they react instantly to any stress they detect in me or their mother.
Zombies scare me, these "copies" scare me.
The world is definitely not what it seems.
:eek::eek:
See, now, this is the kind of real life experiences that make me want to dig deeper. :confused:
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 04:19 PM
OMG TIN!!
Excellent source of information btw...but sick fucking bastards
reminded me of this
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07073008.html
found on one of the one of the other theads...
paedophiles are in seats of power
and it has to STOP!
They have disengaged with the human race the moment they
partake in these atrocities...
victims may well repeat the cycles of abuse but the majority don't
It is all matter of responsibilty
I don't know many people who haven't been through serious hell in their lives
but would NEVER repeat the cycle EVER!!! There is no excuse for the paedophile mind set, none what so ever.
I agree. There's no excuse. Both Post 1 and 2 pedophiles KNEW what they were doing was wrong, and committed suicide. THEY KNEW! So, if they knew that what they were doing was wrong, and they went against what their higher self that was telling them - that it was wrong, then I seriously feel no mercy for them. This is the inappropriate male energy that has been destroying this planet and its inhabitants for thousands of years.
Like Karen Bishop says in her latest energy alert (http://www.whatsuponplanetearth.com/latest.htm):
Masculine energy can be embodied by women, and feminine energy by men, so it is not all about a duality of the sexes here.
And how are these energies colliding for us? For many women, they absolutely can no longer tolerate, be supportive of, or in any way be submissive to men who are embodying the old masculine. This can be the same for men as well, but because of our old and now outdated socialization methods of masculine and feminine roles being embodied by specific sexes, women still tend to carry more of the feminine energy. But again, men carrying any of the feminine will be tortured and intolerant of any lower vibrating masculine energies as well, no matter where and with whom they are manifesting.
...Now that we have reached yet another plateau on the ascension ladder, the lower vibrating energies can again almost make us ill, and we can become incensed, angry, frustrated, or just plain exhausted from them. We may wonder just how long they will ever exist, and feel like we have been waiting forever for the new world to arrive on this planet.
But, at long last, the female energy is going to balance things out and the world is going to be a better place one day, because I believe that people will not be possessed with these kinds of urges, and if they are it will not be tolerated at all, like it is now. It wouldn't matter if it was the King himself...it will no longer be tolerated. But, I still believe that these lower energies are leaving our realm, and I believe that the lower vibrational energies are responsible for this. So, if they're gone, problem gone also.
strider
07-10-2007, 04:37 PM
Good thread tin, as much as I couldn't read all of it..
Well, not a good thread but you know what I mean..
Sick fucking cunts (pardon my french) and I would like to think that I am a pretty laid back bloke, but if I ever met one of these low life scum sucking freaks, I'm not sure what I would do..
In fact, I best not think about it too much.. I'm off for a short walk to let my blood cool down..
lydia78
07-10-2007, 04:42 PM
I agree. There's no excuse. Both Post 1 and 2 pedophiles KNEW what they were doing was wrong, and committed suicide. THEY KNEW! So, if they knew that what they were doing was wrong, and they went against what their higher self that was telling them that it was wrong, then I seriously feel no mercy for them. This is the inappropriate male energy that has been destroying this planet and its inhabitants for thousands of years.
Like Karen Bishop says in her latest energy alert (http://www.whatsuponplanetearth.com/latest.htm):
But, at long last, the female energy is going to balance things out and the world is going to be a better place one day, because I believe that people will not be possessed with these kinds of urges, and if they are it will not be tolerated at all, like it is now. It wouldn't matter if it was the King himself...it will no longer be tolerated. But, I still believe that these lower energies are leaving our realm, and I believe that the lower vibrational energies are responsible for this. So, if they're gone, problem gone also
Great post!
Karen Bishop sounds an amazing woman...i must read up on her!!
you're right, the rebalance of masc/fem energy is happening,
always wondered if that's what they meant by the 'tilting of the axis'..
have you seen this site? Has a lot of good info etc on these bastards
http://members.aol.com/smartnews/sample-issue-52.htm
and this
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2003/03/04/15796131.php
I will rue the day they are out of our reality
damn cowards that they are!!:mad:
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 05:28 PM
Great post!
Karen Bishop sounds an amazing woman...i must read up on her!!
you're right, the rebalance of masc/fem energy is happening,
always wondered if that's what they meant by the 'tilting of the axis'..
have you seen this site? Has a lot of good info etc on these bastards
http://members.aol.com/smartnews/sample-issue-52.htm
and this
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2003/03/04/15796131.php
I will rue the day they are out of our reality
damn cowards that they are!!:mad:
Thanks for those links, Lydia. :)
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 05:32 PM
Good thread tin, as much as I couldn't read all of it..
Well, not a good thread but you know what I mean..
Sick fucking cunts (pardon my french) and I would like to think that I am a pretty laid back bloke, but if I ever met one of these low life scum sucking freaks, I'm not sure what I would do..
In fact, I best not think about it too much.. I'm off for a short walk to let my blood cool down..
Yeah, it gets my blood boiling too. Shake it off, bud. ;) Don't let it drag you down.
adimon
07-10-2007, 06:30 PM
He ADMITTED to it...so of COURSE there are other victims, especially since he was the coach of two girls' sports teams.
It seems to me there is an underlying hypocrisy here. You say this man ADMITTED the acts he was accused of, but you only have that information as hearsay of the police, via the press.
However, when you choose to refute the official story on another matter, you tend to point at the police and media as unreliable sources - often going so far as to say that they are controlled by TPTB.
What makes you more certain of this man's guilt, just because of the nature of his crime?
Don't get me wrong, I loathe paedophiles, and once convicted, I think they should be thrown in a 6'x6' cell and left to rot with only bread and water and an eternity of remorse (some can't even manage this).
However, I believe in innocent until proven guilty.
I think you should have a little think about your epistemology and methodology in examining evidence which you present on this forum.
I'm in favour of stricter sentencing, but only after judgement.
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 07:06 PM
It seems to me there is an underlying hypocrisy here. You say this man ADMITTED the acts he was accused of, but you only have that information as hearsay of the police, via the press.
However, when you choose to refute the official story on another matter, you tend to point at the police and media as unreliable sources - often going so far as to say that they are controlled by TPTB.
What makes you more certain of this man's guilt, just because of the nature of his crime?
Don't get me wrong, I loathe paedophiles, and once convicted, I think they should be thrown in a 6'x6' cell and left to rot with only bread and water and an eternity of remorse (some can't even manage this).
However, I believe in innocent until proven guilty.
I think you should have a little think about your epistemology and methodology in examining evidence which you present on this forum.
I'm in favour of stricter sentencing, but only after judgement.
I'm not posting anything that isn't already available on the internet and/or other sources. If it turns out that this information was wrong, I'll gladly apologize and ask that it be removed.
Until then, I won't justify myself to you or anyone else for having posted it here.
If you have a box, climb into it yourself, because it sure is not my size. I'm not going to adhere to any parameters or restrictions you wish to draw for me. :)
strider
07-10-2007, 08:08 PM
Yeah, it gets my blood boiling too. Shake it off, bud. ;) Don't let it drag you down.
I did.. I went for a little walk in the country side..
It's hard not to let it get to you sometimes tin, the poor children who are going through the most hideous experiences imaginable, just so these warped freaks can have their own little bit of pleasure, for want of a much better expression..
I had a tricky childhood to say the least, but boy, does it put it into perspective when you read shit like this. Poor fucking kids.
I've read a lot on mind control and sexual abuse, but I find it difficult to read, though I make myself. But threads like this bring it up on a more local level kind of thing and keeps making you (me) realise on the vast level it exists..
I some times wish I was like some of the posters on this forum when it comes to stuff like this, you know who I'm on about, the ones that think if you don't focus on it, it will some how go away..
Jesus, my heart fucking breaks and i have tears in my eyes writing this..
I try my best not to hate anyone or anything, but I am very close right at this moment in time..:(
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 08:22 PM
I did.. I went for a little walk in the country side..
It's hard not to let it get to you sometimes tin, the poor children who are going through the most hideous experiences imaginable, just so these warped freaks can have their own little bit of pleasure, for want of a much better expression..
I had a tricky childhood to say the least, but boy, does it put it into perspective when you read shit like this. Poor fucking kids.
I've read a lot on mind control and sexual abuse, but I find it difficult to read, though I make myself. But threads like this bring it up on a more local level kind of thing and keeps making you (me) realise on the vast level it exists..
I some times wish I was like some of the posters on this forum when it comes to stuff like this, you know who I'm on about, the ones that think if you don't focus on it, it will some how go away..
Jesus, my heart fucking breaks and i have tears in my eyes writing this..
I try my best not to hate anyone or anything, but I am very close right at this moment in time..:(
I'm sorry it has affected you so deeply. It shows that you have a soul.
But again, men carrying any of the feminine will be tortured and intolerant of any lower vibrating masculine energies as well, no matter where and with whom they are manifesting.
Karen Bishop (http://www.whatsuponplanetearth.com/latest.htm)
Hugs
Tin :o
strider
07-10-2007, 08:36 PM
I'm sorry it has affected you so deeply. It shows that you have a soul.
Hugs
Tin :o
Not at all tin.. I know it exists, but I guess I just push it to the back of my psyche most of the time..
I'm very much versed up on the whole conspiracy thing, trust me I've been reading about it for years, and done my own research to the point of losing jobs..
But this is just awful. Not your post as it is very good, just the whole thing.
I watched 'human trafficking' the other week and it hits home big time just exactly how it goes on in a sense, but on a much bigger scale. Heart breaking film..
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 08:51 PM
Not at all tin.. I know it exists, but I guess I just push it to the back of my psyche most of the time..
I'm very much versed up on the whole conspiracy thing, trust me I've been reading about it for years, and done my own research to the point of losing jobs..
But this is just awful. Not your post as it is very good, just the whole thing.
I watched 'human trafficking' the other week and it hits home big time just exactly how it goes on in a sense, but on a much bigger scale. Heart breaking film..
Yeah, I struggle to watch suffering of any sort. It's just too intense for me, and it leaves me completely depleted of energy. The pain in my heart is just too much to handle.
For this thread, I've deliberately extracted myself from the victim angle because otherwise I would not have been able to write about it. I will continue to post on this thread about all the people in positions of power, in the matrix, that violate humans, and especially children. These dark energies need a nice big push to help them on their way out of this new space we are creating for ourselves and for everyone else.
The dark energies that remain hidden will be the last to leave, unless we hurry them along by exposing their hiding places.
:)
strider
07-10-2007, 09:04 PM
Yeah, I struggle to watch suffering of any sort. It's just too intense for me, and it leaves me completely depleted of energy. The pain in my heart is just too much to handle.
For this thread, I've deliberately extracted myself from the victim angle because otherwise I would not have been able to write about it. I will continue to post on this thread about all the people in positions of power, in the matrix, that violate humans, and especially children. These dark energies need a nice big push to help them on their way out of this new space we are creating for ourselves and for everyone else.
The dark energies that remain hidden will be the last to leave, unless we hurry them along by exposing their hiding places.
:)
Absolutely..
Nice post tin, and nice thread... I'll keep peeking back..
Take care ;)
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 09:51 PM
Absolutely..
Nice post tin, and nice thread... I'll keep peeking back..
Take care ;)
...And add to this the embodiment within us of a new and higher vibration which deems anything that vibrates lower simply horrible, intolerable, frustrating, and deeply sad, and the ascension process can seem like a very unpleasant experience indeed!
Karen Bishop (http://www.whatsuponplanetearth.com/latest.htm)
Your reaction is normal...it'll pass.
strider
07-10-2007, 10:09 PM
Your reaction is normal...it'll pass.
b
Not trying to be patronizing in any way possible tin, as I'm appreciating your thread, but I have known about this stuff for a very long time. I'm practically immune to most of the stuff we discuss on here.
You aint talking to a newbie here, but I still have trouble reading it, the child abuse and so forth, it is fucking horrendous, and I'll never be in-sensitive to this, well god I hope not..
anyway, keep up the good work, and sod it, I am gonna be here more, and hopefully will be able to add something to it..
Peace and love to you and your family tinmenace...
tinmenace
07-10-2007, 10:13 PM
b
Not trying to be patronizing in any way possible tin, as I'm appreciating your thread, but I have known about this stuff for a very long time. I'm practically immune to most of the stuff we discuss on here.
You aint talking to a newbie here, but I still have trouble reading it, the child abuse and so forth, it is fucking horrendous, and I'll never be in-sensitive to this, well god I hope not..
anyway, keep up the good work, and sod it, I am gonna be here more, and hopefully will be able to add something to it..
Peace and love to you and your family tinmenace...
Thank you, backatcha!
garth
08-10-2007, 12:37 AM
Right. Lapis posted a very interesting story about an experience she had with a neighbor that was possessed. This demon tormented her, via her neighbor, for four years!
Anyway, thanks for your input, Garth. This does make more sense to me than mere soulless shells, although I would like to chew some more on the soulless matrix programs, just to make sure I don't like the taste :D
See, now, this is the kind of real life experiences that make me want to dig deeper. :confused:
Thanks Tin, was interesting to read Lapis's story, one that has similarities to experiences I have had with these "passenger" entities.
I don't think that this "possession" explains all the actions of the sick fuckers out there, but may be applicable to some.
I to have pondered the soul less being scenario, but I can't make it fit, even animals & plants have a Life force, a connection to source, and although these fucktards are lesser beings than most animals, they must have something to animate their corpse??
Have read Stu Wildes stuff on shadow self??
http://www.newsforthesoul.com/stuartwilde.htm
scroll down the page for the "the Shadow"
tinmenace
08-10-2007, 12:43 AM
Thanks Tin, was interesting to read Lapis's story, one that has similarities to experiences I have had with these "passenger" entities.
I don't think that this "possession" explains all the actions of the sick fuckers out there, but may be applicable to some.
I to have pondered the soul less being scenario, but I can't make it fit, even animals & plants have a Life force, a connection to source, and although these fucktards are lesser beings than most animals, they must have something to animate their corpse??
Have read Stu Wildes stuff on shadow self??
http://www.newsforthesoul.com/stuartwilde.htm
scroll down the page for the "the Shadow"
Yes, that's the problem. I can't make it fit. It feels weird to imagine that there are people among us that are nothing more than computer programs.
Thank you for that link. I'll take a look.
tinmenace
08-10-2007, 03:18 AM
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/larrycraig2.jpg
Just recently the case of Senator Larry Craig, a Republican (aka fascist dickwads), who was busted for soliciting sex in the men's lavatory at an airport...that's not the whole story about him, however. In the 80's his name came up in an investigation concerning sexual relations with male pages. - More Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=110890&postcount=3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXaaFbo6Oo
Your denial means nothing Mr. Craig. The truth has finally revealed itself and it is obvious that you are a liar. Denying your true nature doesn't make it truth. I just find it interesting that your masters' puppets are trying to find a way for you not to resign your job. :rolleyes: No surprise there.
Once again, it's not what we see on the outside, including matrix achievements, that truly defines a person, because as we can see...on the inside (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10882) they are monsters.
Now this from today's news:
Sen. Larry Craig chosen for Idaho Hall of Fame
BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- Sen. Larry Craig has been chosen for induction into the Idaho Hall of Fame, despite his well-publicized arrest and guilty plea in an airport sex sting, officials said.
The nonprofit Idaho Hall of Fame Association picked Craig in March, months before he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct after a Minneapolis airport police officer accused him of soliciting sex in the men's restroom, the organization's board chairman said.
"Larry Craig has made a great contribution to Idaho over the period of 20-some years. At the time it was considered, this other matter had not come up," Harry Magnuson told The Spokesman-Review newspaper Saturday.
But some Republicans said the honor is inappropriate now. Kootenai County Republican precinct committeeman Phil
Thompson said Idaho Hall of Fame officials should consider at least postponing the induction.
Source (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/07/craig.hof.ap/index.html)
Give me a fucking break! :rolleyes:
aitch
08-10-2007, 03:40 AM
Sick Shit :mad:
What is even sicker though is that its ordinary people who allow funked up things like this to happen and go unpunished ..... :(
We need to organise ourselves in to secret underground vigilante death squads ..... who kidnap and murder sick bastards like these and send their severed heads to Newspapers and TV Stations who will get the message out to all these muthafunkers that if they try any sick shit they will pay the price ..... a long and agonizing death would be the ultimate deterrent ......
PS - Did any of you guess that Seven is my favourite movie ?? ;)
tinmenace
08-10-2007, 03:45 AM
Sick Shit :mad:
What is even sicker though is that its ordinary people who allow funked up things like this to happen and go unpunished ..... :(
We need to organise ourselves in to secret underground vigilante death squads ..... who kidnap and murder sick bastards like these and send their severed heads to Newspapers and TV Stations who will get the message out to all these muthafunkers that if they try any sick shit they will pay the price ..... a long and agonizing death would be the ultimate deterrent ......
PS - Did any of you guess that Seven is my favourite movie ?? ;)
Yeah, it kinda makes you feel like doing that, right?
adimon
08-10-2007, 07:16 AM
I'm not posting anything that isn't already available on the internet and/or other sources. If it turns out that this information was wrong, I'll gladly apologize and ask that it be removed.
Until then, I won't justify myself to you or anyone else for having posted it here.
If you have a box, climb into it yourself, because it sure is not my size. I'm not going to adhere to any parameters or restrictions you wish to draw for me. :)
It's not the media-published information I was referring to. It was the fact that you have made your own judgement, and then extrapolated on it to the point of character assassination of a man, when the source was a policeman's hearsay and a newspaper report, not a court decision.
I'm not asking for justification, just having my say too.
As for boxes, it's a valid point you make, but you've made it in order to skirt the issue of your reliance on the same type of sources you're usually keen to bash.
If I was that policeman, and I came onto the forum, and made my comments about a paedophile, except he had a different name, and maybe was someone dear to the people of this forum (think about it), you'd have a very different reaction, I'd expect.
My aim is not to upset or to provoke, but to promote what I see as a healthier methodology. There's no box involved.
tinmenace
08-10-2007, 12:16 PM
It's not the media-published information I was referring to. It was the fact that you have made your own judgement, and then extrapolated on it to the point of character assassination of a man, when the source was a policeman's hearsay and a newspaper report, not a court decision.
I'm not asking for justification, just having my say too.
As for boxes, it's a valid point you make, but you've made it in order to skirt the issue of your reliance on the same type of sources you're usually keen to bash.
If I was that policeman, and I came onto the forum, and made my comments about a paedophile, except he had a different name, and maybe was someone dear to the people of this forum (think about it), you'd have a very different reaction, I'd expect.
My aim is not to upset or to provoke, but to promote what I see as a healthier methodology. There's no box involved.
Hmm, wonder what he was doing in Detroit with a doll, little girl earings and a jar of Vaseline? So far from home? Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?
adimon
08-10-2007, 06:30 PM
Hmm, wonder what he was doing in Detroit with a doll, little girl earings and a jar of Vaseline? So far from home? Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Yeah, well what I'm wondering is why you're so sure that he was a paedophile.
He wasn't convicted, and you only have the cops hearsay - something you normally distrust because of you being a Truthist/Researcher, and the cops being the establishment, no?
tinmenace
09-10-2007, 01:23 AM
Yeah, well what I'm wondering is why you're so sure that he was a paedophile.
He wasn't convicted, and you only have the cops hearsay - something you normally distrust because of you being a Truthist/Researcher, and the cops being the establishment, no?
Yeah, look dude, you have YOUR way of processing information, which works for YOU and for whomever you force it on, but it doesn't work for me, mmmmKay?
I have my own way of processing information, and like I said I don't owe you any explanations or justifications. If you don't like it, start your own thread about how you don't like the way I process info. Oki Doki?
;)
PS, I don't see you defending any other information press-released. Makes me wonder why you feel it necessary to defend a baby-rapist....:rolleyes:
adimon
09-10-2007, 08:05 AM
Yeah, look dude, you have YOUR way of processing information, which works for YOU and for whomever you force it on, but it doesn't work for me, mmmmKay?
I have my own way of processing information, and like I said I don't owe you any explanations or justifications. If you don't like it, start your own thread about how you don't like the way I process info. Oki Doki?
;)
PS, I don't see you defending any other information press-released. Makes me wonder why you feel it necessary to defend a baby-rapist....:rolleyes:
There's absolutely no need to make such personal insinuations about me. I'm challenging your logic, not attacking your character.
I've made it clear that I'm CHALLENGING the standpoint you take on the prosecutor's guilt. I'm not DEFENDING anybody, I'm not part of the judicial system.
I have and will defend press information when I'm relatively sure of its accuracy.
tinmenace
09-10-2007, 11:31 AM
There's absolutely no need to make such personal insinuations about me. I'm challenging your logic, not attacking your character.
I've made it clear that I'm CHALLENGING the standpoint you take on the prosecutor's guilt. I'm not DEFENDING anybody, I'm not part of the judicial system.
I have and will defend press information when I'm relatively sure of its accuracy.
That's the problem. You're challenging me, and I'm not interested in engaging in a challenge with you. If you have a problem with my logic, then that's YOUR problem. I don't have a problem with my logic. Please don't make your problem my problem.
:rolleyes:
adimon
10-10-2007, 12:44 PM
That's the problem. You're challenging me, and I'm not interested in engaging in a challenge with you. If you have a problem with my logic, then that's YOUR problem. I don't have a problem with my logic. Please don't make your problem my problem.
I don't have a problem. How refreshingly self-righteous of you.
Engaging in a challenge? Its debate...forum...free speech.
You have your opinion...I have mine...seems you don't like that setup.
:cool:
lottie
10-10-2007, 12:46 PM
Hey guys, you're both entitled to your opinions, this is a great thread, you arnt going to agree so dont let this thread end up in the rant room eh? agree to disagree!! :)
tinmenace
10-10-2007, 12:47 PM
I don't have a problem. How refreshingly self-righteous of you.
Engaging in a challenge? Its debate...forum...free speech.
You have your opinion...I have mine...seems you don't like that setup.
:cool:
In order to have a debate, you have to have two willing participants.
I'm not willing or interested. I've stated my viewpoint. You don't like it. Oh well. End of discussion.
Which part don't you understand?
tinmenace
10-10-2007, 01:43 PM
Hey guys, you're both entitled to your opinions, this is a great thread, you arnt going to agree so dont let this thread end up in the rant room eh? agree to disagree!! :)
Sorry Lottie, I didn't see your response before I posted mine.
You're right, agree to disagree.
Thanks
Tin
adimon
11-10-2007, 02:33 PM
In order to have a debate, you have to have two willing participants.
I'm not willing or interested. I've stated my viewpoint. You don't like it. Oh well. End of discussion.
Which part don't you understand?
forum n : means of open DISCUSSION
What part don't you understand? :P
If you're not open to discussion, then what kind of forum do you want this to be?
One where people start threads, and if you have a different view or even a different angle of the same view you have to start your own new thread?
Are you reserving the right for tinmenace to pop up on others' threads, make your point and disappear, and then act with outright hostility when others exercise their own respective freedoms?
I'll agree to disagree with you on the degree of certainty of the guilt of the Federal prosecutor as suggested, but whatever problem you think I have by wanting to engage in discussion, is non-existent. So don't mouth off at me when I make no personal remarks about you. Which, btw, is because I don't know you, and respect everyone on this forum, with the exception of the small handful of racist idiots who vent their garbage and make no historiographical effort whatsoever.
I'll leave it at that.
Regards :)
tinmenace
11-10-2007, 11:00 PM
forum n : means of open DISCUSSION
What part don't you understand? :P
Open discussion. Open ended, and not by your rules or interpretation.
If you're not open to discussion, then what kind of forum do you want this to be?
What a stupid question. I have no control over what this forum will be, so why would I even ponder an answer to such a question.
One where people start threads, and if you have a different view or even a different angle of the same view you have to start your own new thread?
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I just don't want your opinion forced down my throat. I thought I'd already made that painfully clear?
Are you reserving the right for tinmenace to pop up on others' threads, make your point and disappear, and then act with outright hostility when others exercise their own respective freedoms?
Nah, I couldn't care less what you want to say on my thread, I just don't want you forcing me to see it your way. I thought that after the second clear resistance, you would have caught on that I'm not inclined to adopt your way of thinking. To each their own. Say what you want. I'll say what I want, and that's that. I don't see it your way, you don't see it mine. Ok, continue on. Is that kind of thinking beyond your understanding? Or, do you believe everyone should process information the same way?
I'll agree to disagree with you on the degree of certainty of the guilt of the Federal prosecutor as suggested, but whatever problem you think I have by wanting to engage in discussion, is non-existent.
You're quite the stubborn one, or you're not paying attention. A "discussion" requires two more more willing participants. I am not one of these participants. I thought I'd made that clear. So anything beyond that is an attempt, by you, to force me into a dialogue, which I'm not interested in engaging in. Yes, it's non-existent. I don't actually HAVE to engage in a discussion with you. No matter how much that bothers you. I don't have to do anything you want me to do.
So don't mouth off at me when I make no personal remarks about you.
Stop trying to control me and force me to do what YOU want me to do and maybe I'll stop mouthing off at you.
Which, btw, is because I don't know you, and respect everyone on this forum, with the exception of the small handful of racist idiots who vent their garbage and make no historiographical effort whatsoever.
OK, whatever, I don't really care about what you think of whomever. None of my business... :rolleyes:
I'll leave it at that.
Alright.
Regards :)
.
tinmenace
12-10-2007, 12:11 PM
This is being discussed on at least two (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11441&page=8) other threads (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10748), but I feel it important to add it to this thread also, because this is fucking outrageous!
German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed
"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."
Canadian author and public speaker Michael O'Brien who has written and spoken extensively about the crisis of culture in the West spoke to LifeSiteNews.com about the shocking and extremely disturbing phenomenon. It is, he said, "State-encouraged incest, which in most civilized societies is a crime
"The imposed social revolution that has swept the western world is moving to a new stage as it works out the logical consequences of its view of man's value," said O'Brien. "It is merely obeying its strictly materialist philosophy of man. If man is no more than a creature created for pleasure or power. If he is no more than a cell in the social organism, then no moral standards, no psychological truths, no spiritual truths can refute the 'will to power' and the 'will to pleasure'."
"The wiser and deeper position of most civilizations recognized that children need a period of innocence," commented O'Brien. "Now the state, the German state, is encouraging destruction of this state of innocence," he added. "This is consistent with the materialist philosophy that sees all moral norms and all truths about human nature as repressive. Pleasure and their distorted concept of freedom are their only guiding principles."
Full Article (http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07073008.html)
Outrageous! What are they trying to do? Create a nation of mind-controlled slaves? WTF is this shit? :mad:
lapis
13-10-2007, 01:40 AM
Holy crap I just discovered this thread. Yeah the Dark...in all its many forms.
Opposite Aquarius is Leo and one of the things Leo has to do with is children. Our "inner child", our physical offspring, our creative children or ideas that come from our hearts and minds and not just our loins. Creativity in it's highest forms.
Squaring or at cross points - X - to Aquarius/Leo is Scorpio/Taurus which are the 4 "Fixed" signs. Anyhoo my point is that "Virgins and Fishes" (Virgo/Pisces) ain't the deal anymore so we're seeing the Dark adapt, like it always does because it knows, and USE the new Aquarius/Leo energies now present. Just as (the Ages of) Aquarius/Leo exist in the highest Light, the Ages of Taurus/Scorpio exist at the mid-point of the darkest periods or lack of higher 'Light'. This is all connected and being played out now by some like an ancient Scorpio dark sexual ritual.
And then there's the aspect that a lot of really horrible stuff is happening globally to effect a change in us! Nothing will get some folks woke up faster than children (and/or animals) getting fucked over.....literally. On the one side we've got these dark sick fucks that USE children for what appears to us as twisted sexual perversions. But what's really going on IMO is that these sick fucks are also being USED by unseen (sick fuck) entities for lots of reasons. Some unknowingly and others not. Others know and are happy to be paying homage to their unseen Lords n' Masters in other realms, sending that energy to them.
Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not remotely suggesting that the adult humans involved are "victims" of these entities. Hell no! One has to do very specific things, feel things, think things prior that puts them in energetic alignment with similar frequencies and the Beings that exist in and off of that lower level of dark energies. Like attracts and resonates with like remember.
At this late date I don't much care about the occult who why's and where's to all this dark sexual negativity. I only care that us, the masses in the middle that the Horror Show is now for, are waking up which is the whole damned point! If some souls have chosen to go through these types of horrific experiences (being a child who gets raped, murdered, sold as sex slaves etc etc) to help make all of us sickened enough to change, then I'm not going to let those magnificent souls down. No, I see what they're doing for humanity (Leo is often very high drama) and it's working......we are aware and we will not allow "Lower" anything to continue on for much longer.
The tricky part is to not get trapped in the lower negative drama that's designed (from a vastly higher level) to pressure you right up and out of it all. ;) Great thread as usual Tinmenace.
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 02:32 AM
Thanks Lapis :)
adimon
13-10-2007, 02:54 AM
Has anyone read a copy of the pamphlet to confirm the story?
This is an even more shocking story than the first two.
lydia78
13-10-2007, 10:41 AM
Has anyone read a copy of the pamphlet to confirm the story?
This is an even more shocking story than the first two.
Are you refering to the german gov adimon?
If so, look on the site and there is a complaints contact address
for canadian & US Germany embassy, the chancellor and the president
of the federal republic of germany too.
time we collectively wrote in and said something about it!!
It's outragious and disgusting beyond belief!:mad:
tinmenace
16-07-2008, 04:45 PM
In the ongoing propaganda against countries in the Middle East, the media posted this story:
Girl, 10, says husband raped, abused her
Editor's note: CNN does not usually identify children of alleged abuse, but in this case the girl and her family gave CNN permission to tell her story and use her name.
SANAA, Yemen (CNN) -- Nujood Ali is 10 years old, but she already has been married and divorced. It was an arranged marriage in which she said a husband three times her age routinely beat and raped her.
"When I got married, I was afraid. I didn't want to leave home. I wanted to stay with my brothers and sisters and my mom and dad," she said, speaking to CNN with the permission of her parents.
"I didn't want to sleep with him, but he forced me to. He hit me, insulted me."
As she plays marbles with her brothers and sister, Nujood is a portrait of innocence, with a shy smile and a playful nature.
But what happened evokes anger and shame. Asked if what she went through was torture, she nods quietly.
Nujood's parents married her off in February to a man in his 30s whom she describes as old and ugly.
Her parents said they thought they were putting her in the care of her husband's family, but Nujood said he would often beat her into submission.
Nujood then turned to her family for mercy.
"When I heard, my heart burned for her; he wasn't supposed to sleep with her," said Nujood's mother, who asked not to be identified.
But, initially, she also told her daughter she could not help her -- that she belonged to her husband now.
Nujood's father, Ali Mohammed Ahdal, said he is angry about what happened to his daughter. "He was a criminal, a criminal. He did hateful things to her," he said. "He didn't keep his promise to me that he wouldn't go near her until she was 20."
When contacted by CNN, the girl's former husband declined to comment.
Nujood's parents, like so many others in Yemen, struck a social bargain when they decided to have their daughter wed. More than half of all Yemeni girls are married off before the age of 18, according to Oxfam International, a nonprofit group that fights global poverty and injustice.
Many times girls are forced to marry older men, including some who already have at least one wife, Oxfam said. According to tribal customs, the girls are no longer viewed as a financial or moral burden to their parents.
"There is always a fear that the girl will do something to dishonor the family: She will run away with a guy, she will have relations with a boy. So this is always the phobia that the families have," said Suha Bashren of Oxfam International.
Bashren calls the tradition of child brides in Yemen a national crisis. She works with young girls to protect them from early marriage, abuse and one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the world.
The Yemeni government is holding legal and religious workshops to try to deal with the issue of early marriage. But experts say marrying off a young daughter is generally still seen as the right thing to do.
"A lot of people in the public don't think that this is wrong or that what happened to her was abuse," Bashren said.
In Yemen, there is nothing new or extraordinary about Nujood's story because children have been married off for generations. The country's legal minimum age for marriage was 15 till a decade ago, when the law was changed to allow for children even younger to be wed.
But what is most unusual is that this young girl took such an intensely private dispute and went public with it.
Nujood said she made up her mind to escape from her husband, describing how on a visit to her parents' home she broke free and traveled to the central courthouse across town and demanded to speak to a judge.
"He asked me, 'What do you want?' And I said, 'I want a divorce.' And he said, 'You're married?' And I said, 'Yes,'" she recalled.
What unfolded in those few days in April gripped the country on the southern tip of the Arabian Peninsula.
Nujood got her divorce, but based on the principles of Islamic Sharia law, her husband was compensated, not prosecuted. Nujood was ordered to pay him more than $200. The human rights lawyer who represented her donated the money.
But for this determined spirit, it was still a sweet victory.
"I did this so that people would listen and think about not marrying their daughters off as young as I was," she said with a shy smile.
Now back at the family home, she said she won't go outside to play -- that all the attention bothers her. Some still condemn the young girl for speaking out, believing that she shouldn't have challenged convention.
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Human rights advocates said it will take more than a generation if this practice is to change in Yemen for other children.
"These girls are living in a misery that no one is talking about," Oxfam's Bashren said.
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/07/15/yemen.childbride/index.html)
Shocking to say the least, and NOT ok at any level. But, bottom line is that it's propaganda.
My problem with this whole thing is that the media doesn't address the accusations of the victims that talk about George HW Bush being a "KNOWN PEDOPHILE". Why not dig into that a little bit, CNN/FOX/et al?
amethyst
16-07-2008, 06:31 PM
This is being discussed on at least two (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11441&page=8) other threads (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10748), but I feel it important to add it to this thread also, because this is fucking outrageous!
Outrageous! What are they trying to do? Create a nation of mind-controlled slaves? WTF is this shit? :mad:
Quoteing the article: "this is the only way the girls can develope a sense of "pride" in their sex"
What??? By letting daddy fondle them?????? :eek::mad:
I agree tinmenace! It is outrageous! It's perverted and twisted logic....if you can call it "logic". :mad:
Tptb wants the world to adopt their line of thinking. It's known as calling good "evil and evil as "good".
Shocking to say the least, and NOT ok at any level. But, bottom line is that it's propaganda.
My problem with this whole thing is that the media doesn't address the accusations of the victims that talk about George HW Bush being a "KNOWN PEDOPHILE". Why not dig into that a little bit, CNN/FOX/et al?
I agree. Total hypocrisy. Total propaganda.
tinmenace
16-07-2008, 07:38 PM
I found this info. Anyone familiar with this info?
http://spiritual-nature.com/images/pedosymbols1.jpg
http://spiritual-nature.com/images/pedosymbols2.jpg
http://spiritual-nature.com/images/pedosymbols3.jpg
http://spiritual-nature.com/images/pedosymbols4.jpg
http://spiritual-nature.com/images/pedosymbols5.jpg
LINK (http://www.scribd.com/doc/2230361/FBI-Symbols-of-the-Pedophile?query2=symbols%20for%20pedophiles)
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americana
17-07-2008, 08:23 PM
A spiral form and a heart within a heart are two prominent symbols in the new movie, HANCOCK.
In this movie, Hancock and his sister/ wife Mary's past is completely shrouded.
In his jail cell, he draws all over the walls. The images include spirals, a pyramid, and a large and small stick figure holding hands with the rays of the sun above them.
The heart within the heart is a symbol invented by Ray, who is a PR executive. He wants to get a company or companies to donate free drugs (TB drug is an example) and then get this LOGO on their products, showing that they have a heart.
I don't know what to make of this movie. It is NOT about child abuse, yet the symbols crop up, and it is very suggestive about the "past" of the characters.
tinmenace
17-07-2008, 08:43 PM
A spiral form and a heart within a heart are two prominent symbols in the new movie, HANCOCK.
In this movie, Hancock and his sister/ wife Mary's past is completely shrouded.
In his jail cell, he draws all over the walls. The images include spirals, a pyramid, and a large and small stick figure holding hands with the rays of the sun above them.
The heart within the heart is a symbol invented by Ray, who is a PR executive. He wants to get a company or companies to donate free drugs (TB drug is an example) and then get this LOGO on their products, showing that they have a heart.
I don't know what to make of this movie. It is NOT about child abuse, yet the symbols crop up, and it is very suggestive about the "past" of the characters.
Oh wow!!! Geez, thanks for the input, I'll definitely be watching it.
tinmenace
17-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Couldn't they have chosen a better name than HanCOCK?
Official site (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/hancock/)