Illuminati Symbolism in your home town [Archive]

jimijams

16-02-2007, 07:29 AM

This is a photo I took the other day of a sign near my home.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8451/allseeingeyeqe3.png (http://imageshack.us)

This is a brilliant example of Illuminati symbolism on so many different levels.
First of all is the obvious, Illuminated all seeing eye of Horus above the pyramid. Now just because you cant see the whole of the pyramid doesn't mean it's not there, it just needs to be suggested and the brain does the rest. The blue line at the bottom is the base and the two yellow lines that mark the parking space is the sides of the pyramid. the mans legs could be interpreted as a pyramid also, or maybe the capstone.

Next, if you notice behind the man there are two pillars one to each side of him supporting the message of the sign, these are Jachin and Boaz or the two pillars of Freemasonry, originally from Solomans temple. Another famous recent and rather dramatic representation of the two pillars was the twin towers. This is also the basis of the Hegelian dialect or more commonly known as problem/reaction/sollution. For more reading on this have a look here .. http://www.google.com/search?q=jachin+and+boaz&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Finally, If you look at the bottom right hand corner of the sign you'll see an inverted pentagram which is the symbol of the Victorian Police Force.

Any other comments or observations welcome.

oneofmany

16-02-2007, 07:41 AM

I see a five sided star in the wheel of the Right car, also the number 5 appears 3 times, 5 pyramids or rays of sun the victoria police star has 5 sides and the right wheel, also park spelled backwards is KRAP, a subliminal telling you to ignore it.

jimijams

16-02-2007, 07:47 AM

I see a five sided star in the wheel of the left car, also the number 5 appears 3 times, 5 pyramids or rays of sun the victoria police star has 5 sides and the right wheel, also park spelled backwards is KRAP, a subliminal telling you to ignore it.
He he, I like your thinking oneofmany. Good stuff!

jimijams

16-02-2007, 07:53 AM

oneofmany

16-02-2007, 07:59 AM

He he, I like your thinking oneofmany. Good stuff!
I've noticed symbols my whole life. When I started my apprenticeship, years ago, they give you a test where they give you 1 symbol and four alternates, and you have to choose the mirror image of the 1st symbol. we had 50 of these questions and then some basic maths to finish. When they marked mine, they stopped after the symbols because I was the first person in this guys 15 years of giving the test to ever have every one correct. I didn't even know that i was good at it until then.

jimijams

16-02-2007, 08:00 AM

Interesting note on the last pic posted of the Commonwealth games logo, this is of course the symbol of freemasonry.

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7951/imagesqt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/309/logocommonwealthgamesay3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

And also the State of Victoria's logo with the inverted pyramid and Victoria the place to be. This is classic freemason speak as in a must be and also the bee hive which is highly symbolic in Freemasonry.

oneofmany

16-02-2007, 08:00 AM

jimijams

16-02-2007, 08:18 AM

This ones a beauty, it's our own Bolte bridge named after an ex Victiorian Premier Henry Bolte. It's a great example of the two pillars or twin towers reflected nicley in the water(feminine) .
At nightime there is also two red lights on top of them which flash intermitently between the two which is highly significant.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9348/yarra1xy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolte_Bridge

jimijams

16-02-2007, 08:25 AM

I done that test at the Master Builders of NSW:D
Did they also teach you the handshake:D

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3688/howardsgrip904ha7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

oneofmany

16-02-2007, 08:33 AM

Did they also teach you the handshake:D

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3688/howardsgrip904ha7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

no, just the trade. but it would be a good party trick :D

jimijams

16-02-2007, 08:50 AM

If you notice the chap shaking Howards hand is with his left hand giving the sign of a fellow of the craft, Blue lodge (second degree)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/273/signkf2.gif (http://imageshack.us)

chocky pud

16-02-2007, 08:53 AM

Haha ....a man after my own heart. I collect illuminati logos - I have HUNDREDS of them.

jimijams

16-02-2007, 09:12 AM

This is Melbournes Citylink tollway which is very interesting, this is the Gateway to Melbourne from the airport. You have to drive under a huge phallis to enter the city which is letting you know in no uncertain terms who the true owners of Melbourne are.

This is a photo I took yesterday, unfortunately we're in drought at the moment so the reflecting pool is empty, but you get the picture.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5355/citylinkxs9.png (http://imageshack.us)

Heres another shot off the net.

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4505/citylinkkz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CityLink

jimijams

16-02-2007, 09:27 AM

This is Melbourne Central shopping centre. It's a glass spherical pyramid built around the old shot tower. I still haven't quite worked this one out totally myself, so am open to suggestions.:o

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2461/ca1mh2.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1517/c2bw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7955/ca3mj2.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Central_Shopping_Centre

pollock

16-02-2007, 09:29 AM

jimijams

16-02-2007, 09:51 AM

Heres the homepage of my town in Denmark, check out the logo. Its not a big town but they make sure they got it all covered dont they?
http://www.thisted.dk
(how do I post pics from my own computer btw, sorry im new to this)
Pollock first you save the pic you want by right clicking on it and selecting save image as.. Then go to http://imageshack.us/ select browse and choose the file from your computer where you saved it. Then select upload, once the file is uploaded highlight with your curser the link Hotlink for forums (1)cut it then paste the link in to your post. If you have trouble with photos that are to big or taking up too much room this is a very good program for resizing your photos to any size you like. http://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm

PM if you have any problems and I'll be happy to oblige.:)

oneofmany

16-02-2007, 10:02 AM

This is Melbourne Central shopping centre. It's a glass spherical pyramid built around the old shot tower. I still haven't quite worked this one out totally myself, so am open to suggestions.:o

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2461/ca1mh2.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1517/c2bw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7955/ca3mj2.png (http://imageshack.us)

possibly the "enlightened phallus" or the golden penis of Osiris Whatever it is, it definitely has some sexual energy going on there

jimijams

16-02-2007, 10:25 AM

Interesting story about the old Coops shot tower, back in the eighteen nineties it was used for making the lead shot for shot guns. They would drop the molten lead from the top of the tower and by the time it reached the bottom it was cooled and perfectly formed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_tower

oneofmany

16-02-2007, 10:47 AM

so it wasn't shooting blanks :D

jimijams

16-02-2007, 10:55 AM

so it wasn't shooting blanks :D
ROTFLMAO Too bad they were shooting the wrong way!:D

pollock

16-02-2007, 12:41 PM

Thanks!
hmmm...
Like this?
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2067/logonr6.gif (http://imageshack.us)

jimijams

16-02-2007, 12:54 PM

Thanks!
hmmm...
Like this?
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2067/logonr6.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Very good, thats not you in the avatar is it? :o

pollock

16-02-2007, 01:07 PM

Very good, thats not you in the avatar is it?
No!:)

tinmenace

16-02-2007, 02:31 PM

What a great idea to capture Illuminati symbols on camera! I've been doing it for a while, and the one that surprised me the most was during a recent trip to Sweden. We decided to visit a few Rune Stones (http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/6d/250px-R%C3%B6kstenen.jpg) nearby. We went to a place called Rök which means 'smoke' in Swedish. It is a TINY place, just a few houses and a church in the middle of absolutely nowhere and as far as I know the oldest Rune Stone in Sweden. So, I took a few photos around the churchyard, and as I was leaving, I looked up and saw this: http://www.globalfailure.com/images/allseeingeye-roksweden2.jpg

That night, I asked a few locals in a neighboring town, where we were staying, what this meant. Just to see if they knew. None of them did. Then I showed them the back of the $1 bill and it was incredible to see the shock register across their faces.

The city I live in, has a big pyramid on the tallest building (a bank of course). There's more, and I'm going to upload some soon.

tinmenace

16-02-2007, 02:33 PM

http://www.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles153.jpg

Do you see it?

jimijams

16-02-2007, 02:42 PM

http://www.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles153.jpg

Do you see it?
Do you mean the pyramid on the top of that building?

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9625/pyramidhj1.png (http://imageshack.us)

tinmenace

16-02-2007, 02:42 PM

Did you ever notice what was watching when the twin towers fell?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wtc-site.jpg

jimijams

16-02-2007, 02:48 PM

Did you ever notice what was watching when the twin towers fell?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wtc-site.jpg
The whole affair was full of of symbolism, Twin towers(Jachin & Boaz)and the Pentagon(pentagram).. The Illuminati have their signature all over it, it's a way of letting those who know, know.;)

tinmenace

17-02-2007, 01:33 PM

Right! I know that usually wherever you find an obelisk of sorts, you find a dome, but I have to say I was really shocked to find them side by side looking over the WTC site.

One of the things I enjoy doing also is finding pyramids via Google Earth. It's amazing how many there are. Have you seen the one in Memphis Tn? And of course the fact that Memphis was the original capital of Egypt has nothing to do with it, right?

Ha! So transparent! I think I'll post some of them soon.

tinmenace

17-02-2007, 06:42 PM

Ok, here are a few:

The most obvious, The Great Pyramids in Egypt (http://www.globalfailure.com/images/egypt.jpg)

Galveston Texas (http://www.globalfailure.com/images/galveston%20texas.jpg)

Long Beach State Campus (http://www.globalfailure.com/images/long%20beach%20state%20campus.jpg)

Louvre, Paris
(http://www.globalfailure.com/images/louvre.jpg)

Memphis Tennessee (http://www.globalfailure.com/images/memphis.jpg)

Las Vegas (http://www.globalfailure.com/images/vegas.jpg)

Las Vegas 2 (http://www.globalfailure.com/images/vegas2.jpg)

There are more, but I'm struggling to find the one in Kazakhstan, those in Russia and Southern France.

thoth

17-02-2007, 07:06 PM

Its hard to beat my hometown, the symbolism here is rather ridiculous.

tinmenace

17-02-2007, 07:49 PM

Which is where?

jimijams

18-02-2007, 12:50 AM

Which is where?
EVERWHERE apparantly.:confused:

tinmenace

18-02-2007, 01:18 AM

limelady

19-02-2007, 08:46 AM

limelady

19-02-2007, 01:08 PM

Here's something I found on Google Earth that looks like a pyramid.
These are the co-ordinates:

23 19 33 S
134-43 E

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7151/aussiepyramidal5.jpg

The first time I ever saw this the image looked clearer than this one, but you can still make it out by the way the sun is shining on one aread and not the other.

tinmenace

19-02-2007, 02:45 PM

Wow! Yeah! What is it? How interesting.

lottie

19-02-2007, 04:13 PM

Loving this thread- been noticing the changes in logo's a lot recently and after researching more and more about the sick twisted beings that are running our world (namely the illuminati) i was stunned when i parked up in the carpark at the local supermarket- next to a white council van- displaying this logo on the side- its got illuminati written all over it!! :mad:

http://www.iwbuywithconfidence.info/logoWording.aspx

Buy with confidence- my arse! Funny though- how no-one else bats an eyelid- symbolism is so discreet to those who have no idea about who really controls our world- although to me its blatant and its virtually rubbing my nose in it!!
Im going to go off and find more- im sure ive seen something related to the council regarding an 'owl' logo too!! Not surprising though when the Isle of Wight is full of Freemasons- they have their dirty little fingers in every pie imaginable! :(

tinmenace

19-02-2007, 05:06 PM

Loving it too, and has me playing with Google Earth a lot more than I usually do, which brings me to another mystery. I'm no expert, but isn't the North Pole a frozen ice-cap? Even in the summer it melts only slightly and begins to freeze up again toward the end of July. If this is true (I checked NOAA's webcam site with images from mid-summer http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/gallery_np.html) then why does Google Earth show the North Pole as blue ocean? http://www.globalfailure.com/images/northpole.jpg

Am I missing something? :confused:

tinmenace

19-02-2007, 05:58 PM

What is this at Denver Airport? Does this resemble a pyramid with the missing capstone?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/denver%20airport.jpg

lottie

19-02-2007, 06:55 PM

it certainly does- but what is it? and why is it at denver airport? :confused: google earth is great- but im sure they have 'covered up' certain parts that they dont want us to look at!!- the other week i found an island in the middle of nowhere with what looked like a factory/building with definate signs of activity- but the island was like tiny- hardly worth building on!! i dunno- maybe im just very suspicious now- but it didnt feel right- i'll see if i can find it again!!

tinmenace

19-02-2007, 07:12 PM

What do you make of my post about the North Pole?

seamus

19-02-2007, 08:03 PM

yes! The earth is hollow!

Admiral Robert Byrd said he flew past the pole and found a land full of mastodons and trees.

i am seeding a torrent of a long out-of-print book, "The Hollow Earth" by Dr. R. W. Bernard. Search demonoid for bernard and hollow, and you will find it. Highly recommended. If you watch the secrets of alchemy video series on google, keep this in mind.

s

tinmenace

19-02-2007, 08:27 PM

You just knew exactly where I was going with that didn't you??! :p

Yes, I've read it, and it was very good. I found an old worn out copy at my library, believe it or not!

There is a hollow-earth expedition this year http://www.phoenixsciencefoundation.org/apex.htm I hope it actually happens. Just as long as they forget about the compasses when they reach 0, and keep going straight. Because, as the book suggests, there is a ring that has a zero reading, and beyond that the compasses don't seem to work properly.

I look forward to the torrent. Let me know when you go live with it.

tinmenace

19-02-2007, 08:40 PM

I was looking around Israel, Jordan, etc on GoogleEarth, and I found this location which I named Israel, but am not sure if it's actually in Israel. http://www.globalfailure.com/images/israel.jpg

It measures about 1.80 miles long, and 1.20 miles wide and goes even onto mountainous terrain from what appears to be flat and sandy terrain.

What is this?

I was looking around that area, because I read Zecharia Sitchin's The Earth Chronicles Expeditions a couple of months ago, and found it FASCINATING! He has some awesome photos that he didn't publish for about 2 decades. Photos taken at different times but seem to depict the same weird cloud formation ontop the same mountain. The clouds look like saucers, and he tried to figure them out for many years and finally just published them anyway, since travel in that area is very difficult and he didn't want to risk never publishing them at all. Do you have the book, or would you like me to scan the photos for you so that you can see?

He had some interesting information about the platform where the Dome of the Rock stands and this could be why it's such a contended site.

Your thoughts?

lottie

20-02-2007, 03:13 PM

that is weird- i have no idea what it might be!! your post on the north pole was very interesting too, although i have to investigate further in order to come up with a sensible post!! lol!! what did you think of my illuminati symbol of our 'trading standards' logo?!! talk about rubbing our faces in it!! lol:eek:

lottie

20-02-2007, 03:20 PM

PS: the clouds you are refering to are called Lenticular clouds- (dont ask me why they are that way) here's a link!
http://pic1.funtigo.com/valuca/?g=25544746&cr=1 :D

tinmenace

20-02-2007, 03:48 PM

Wow! Yes those clouds are fantastic. Thanks for the incredible link. I take it you have that book then?

Yes, that Illuminati symbol....how utterly transparent! At least you recognize it for what it is. We have a very Egyptian looking building downtown, with all kinds of symbols on it. I have never actually stopped to take a closer look, but I think I will this weekend, and post some photos, and you can tell me what you think of them.

Right, the North Pole thing is interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it, I have a lot of questions that I need answered before I can accept it completely. But, I'll tell you that their misrepresentation of the NP on GoogleEarth nags at me. Why would they do that? If you get a chance, read that book that Seamus talked about. It's very interesting and might leave you with more questions than answers. :rolleyes:

lottie

20-02-2007, 04:01 PM

d'ya know- i had that same thought when i looked at the north pole on google earth- but up until now it didnt occur to me to question it!! i remember thinking to myself- why would they label the north pole in the wrong place- its in the water not on the ice? but as always they rely on that same ignorance i displayed all those weeks ago when i had an explore around- (thats when i found the 'island' thats so small its barely worth building on!) I dont know-nothing surprises me anymore- after researching the sick f**ks that are controlling this world and the levels they will stoop to-i dont think im 'paranoid' anymore- jus 'awake'!! lol
Ihavn't got the book you are refering to but we talked about Lenticular clouds on another forum and i recognised what you were describing so thought i'd post you the link- they are strange but very majestic also! i wonder if they have something to do with 'energy'???
I have bee thinking the same about our buildings around the town- i too am gonna take a camera and take some pics and post them here over the next few weeks- this masonic island is full of it!! :D

tinmenace

23-02-2007, 01:34 AM

this masonic island is full of it!! :D

Yes you keep saying so.... Is it really like obvious and in your face? Or are you just more aware than the others on the island? :D

masonic3

25-02-2007, 09:54 PM

Did they also teach you the handshake:D

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3688/howardsgrip904ha7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Best to say did they teach you the "Grip and Token"
All very intresting...:)

lottie

26-02-2007, 04:00 PM

ok,ok- i hear ya timenace!! *shuts repetetive mouth*!!!!! LOL
excuse me if i go on- but when you find out that after 26yrs the world is not as you'd been led to believe it is...it can be a little shocking and you want to talk about it!! *scuttles away into corner with head bowed* :D

masonic3

26-02-2007, 05:41 PM

tinmenace

26-02-2007, 09:42 PM

*scuttles away into corner with head bowed* :D

Nooo, don't scuttle away, I wasn't scolding you. I'm just interested. You tell me a story, and I'll tell you my latest from last week (and I might even get some photos to back it up with). :D

lottie

04-03-2007, 04:13 PM

oh the perils of smoking too much pot!! LOL, totally read that in the wrong context!! thought i was having my botty spanked!! lol

Yes its totally in my face- but i suppose it is everywhere not just here- its just i focus more here as it my 'home'! Ive been told from an early age that the iow is full of masons- and ive met some- but i never knew what it actually meant- my mum even tells me she went to dinner the other night at a 'masons' and their wives dinner party!!!:eek: I went crazy at her!! she said she isnt in to all that - but she wont listen to me about who/what they are and what it all stands for- she saw it as innocent and said- 'oh but they were all lovely people- we got on very well'!!*excuse me while i spontaneously combust*
I see the symbolism on tv, papers etc etc you name it!! when i first read david ickes books and he said how he see things very differently now to how he used to (before 91) and that when you understand it all you can read the signs in 'their' symbolism thats everywhere- i couldnt 'get it' but slowly and surely- i have and i do- and its like im screaming but no-one can hear me!! extremely frustrating!! :(

tinmenace

04-03-2007, 07:38 PM

Fantastic story! Thanks for sharing.

Here's mine:

I had to pick up a back issue of our newspaper the other day, so I drove down to their homeoffice, parked my car and started to walk toward the building. The first thing I noticed was that the entrance had a big glass pyramid over it. I smirked to myself, but thought that maybe it was just coincidence.

Then once I was under the pyramid, I looked down to the pattern on the ground and it was a pyramid from above. So, in other words a square divided into triangles with their points meeting in the middle. I just shook my head in amazement. So, I go inside and I'm directed to the counter that will sell me a back issue of the newspaper. One of the two women behind the counter was giving off such an evil vibe. I smiled at her but she just glared at me and said nothing. I paid her no attention and asked the other lady to help me find what I was looking for. It was quite interesting, and I intend to go back and take photos, and when I do, I'll share them.

lottie

05-03-2007, 06:46 PM

brilliant story, at least you can see the symbolism!! cant wait to see some pics- i havnt got round to doing any yet- but i will do for sure!! i was just searching another site when i saw the symbolism bit- his name is William Henry- he is a investigative mythologist, lecturer and author- he has a wonderful bit on the symbolism of the bush acceptance speech podium etc im not sure if i can post the link or not? due to copyright stuff?? just type in william henry into google though and go to ; 'Eye on Symbols' in the left hand column of his web page!! its very interesting!!! Enjoy! :D

seamus

05-03-2007, 07:03 PM

Fantastic story! Thanks for sharing.

One of the two women behind the counter was giving off such an evil vibe. I smiled at her but she just glared at me and said nothing. I paid her no attention and asked the other lady to help me find what I was looking for. It was quite interesting, and I intend to go back and take photos, and when I do, I'll share them.

Be sure to do the "yahweh" breathing technique as has been referenced here before.

here's a link to it: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/breathingtechniqueexposereptilians07aug04.shtml

have fun!

s

thoth

21-03-2007, 10:57 PM

http://www.new4y.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=867&start=0
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Indywarmem.jpg/180px-Indywarmem.jpg

http://images4.indianahistory.org/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/P0130&CISOPTR=228&DMSCALE=100.00000&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&REC=11&DMTHUMB=1&DMROTATE=0

pollock

22-03-2007, 10:51 PM

I had a freaky experience today, my son and I went to the playground in the town near where we live in denmark. I have been there many times and always liked it, theres a lot of wooden carved toys and in the whole it is very natural.
As Im standing around keeping an eye on my son playing, I glance up at a wooden fence and what do I see???
A whole bunch of illuminati symbols carved into it, theres the all seeing eye, a pyramid, a pentagram and a bunch more suspect symbols.
I tell you I got a chill running up my spine, I mean what carvings do you choose for a playground? Animals and cars and trains, no? Not pentagrams and serpentsymbols!
Ill bring a camera next time I go and post some pics, Id like your oppinion on weather its safe to take my son there or not?

Love
F

pollock

22-03-2007, 10:56 PM

Btw, there are no less than two lodges in this not very big town!
My friend and I used to make jokes about this town being situated on old cursed viking grounds, because of the weird vibes and the way people never seem to get anywhere in their lives until they moved away, But now I think there is an other reason for all that and its no joke at all!:D

tinmenace

22-03-2007, 11:47 PM

Oh Wow! Yeah, that's a bit creepy. I wouldn't be at all happy with that kind of negative energy at a playground. You should take a red marker with you, next time, and draw red colored hearts across the symbols and write "love rules". Neutralize them. It so pisses me off how they sneak that crap in on us!

Great story! Thanks for sharing.

By the way, we were in Copenhagen over Christmas and I loved the Christmas window decorations (in our hotel and restaurants and stores) that look like a gnarled tree branch (or a root) with colored balls hanging from it. I've never seen that anywhere else, and I really liked it. What is the significance of that?

crowd control

24-03-2007, 02:15 PM

"we could tell you it's all about craft, tradition and heritage, but we know you'll only notice one thing....the taste....Magners."

I heard this a couple of nights ago and thought to myself hmmm.... sounds a bit evil.

ho1ogram

24-03-2007, 02:42 PM

im not sure if i can post the link or not? due to copyright stuff?? just type in william henry into google though and go to ; 'Eye on Symbols' in the left hand column of his web page!! its very interesting!!! Enjoy! :D

You can post links, no worries there. The only time copyright may be infringed is if you post a quote without a source or link.
cheers,
ho1ogram :)

thoth

26-03-2007, 02:44 AM

Which is where?

I think you know now.

marguerite

26-03-2007, 06:35 AM

When and where did these symbols begin?

oneofmany

26-03-2007, 08:19 AM

When and where did these symbols begin?

Egypt, right at the start of their civilisation

for more info look up Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, David Icke (research section) for a start. :)

loveforall

27-03-2007, 11:58 AM

anyone ever been to Century City/Canal Walk in Cape Town?

tinmenace

27-03-2007, 02:01 PM

anyone ever been to Century City/Canal Walk in Cape Town?

No. Is there something interesting there?

tinmenace

27-03-2007, 02:09 PM

Egypt, right at the start of their civilisation

for more info look up Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, David Icke (research section) for a start. :)

You can go back even further to the Sumerian and pre-Sumerian (Ubaid) eras

loveforall

28-03-2007, 02:38 AM

tinmenace

28-03-2007, 02:53 AM

not anything overt but when you look at the buildings that surround and the dome next to a lake, well let´s say it makes sense when you see it for yourself. also the inside decor, paintings just below the ceilings, it symbol is two is c´s, one facing right the other facing left joined together. invert them and you have an eye. if you are there it becomes a lot more obvious, i wish i pics but cant stand the place

Ok, I tried looking around on the net and there's really not anything with a high enough resolution to get the real picture. The thing that interests me specifically is the statue...

http://www.go2africa.com/south-africa/images/locations/loc_802.jpg

Do you see it? To the right of the photo. Any idea who that is?

pollock

28-03-2007, 08:18 AM

I am going in to town today, so I will take pics of the symbols in the playground, if Im lucky I will post them here later!

See ya
F

oneofmany

28-03-2007, 09:25 AM

You can go back even further to the Sumerian and pre-Sumerian (Ubaid) eras too true but for concrete proof, you can't beat Egypt

tinmenace

28-03-2007, 12:59 PM

Right, their recording of events is outstanding!

pollock

29-03-2007, 11:26 AM

Ok here we go, tell me if Im just being paranoid, I mean they could have been carved by some kid who just thought they where cool symbols or something (I add again: this town has a lot of masons activity for its size and has had so for a long time)

Heres an overveiw of the playground
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225318.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094150)

And here are some of the symbols I have been talking about:
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225527.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094157)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225569.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094156)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225635.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094158)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225597.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094155)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225584.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094154)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/870422549.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094153)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225488.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094151)

And this is standing right outside the playground:

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8704225684.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094159)

For some reason I didnt take proper pics of all the pentacles around but you see a couple of them in one of the pics, I can also post bigger res pictures if someone is interessted.
So let me know if you think I am just seeing boogiemen or if theres something to it?

Thanks
F

oneofmany

29-03-2007, 12:50 PM

That playground would scare the crap out of my son, let alone me, it's giving me a bad vibe just looking at it

tinmenace

29-03-2007, 01:55 PM

Ok here we go, tell me if Im just being paranoid, I mean they could have been carved by some kid who just thought they where cool symbols or something (I add again: this town has a lot of masons activity for its size and has had so for a long time)

Heres an overveiw of the playground

For some reason I didnt take proper pics of all the pentacles around but you see a couple of them in one of the pics, I can also post bigger res pictures if someone is interessted.
So let me know if you think I am just seeing boogiemen or if theres something to it?

Thanks
F

No way! OMG! Nah! This is totally not cool! These were not done by children, the symbolism is too consistent. Children don't draw these sorts of things. There might be one where a child has tried to copy the pyramid (or is that the Freemason square?), but the others are deliberate. You should contact the city department responsible for parks and ask them who designed it and built it and maybe from that information we could find out who these people are and what else they're involved in.

You might be doing the entire community a favor by exposing this! And it might turn out it was built by Freemasons! That's what it looks like to me. Is there a lodge nearby?

Thanks for the great photos!!! Your instinct is right on!

pollock

29-03-2007, 02:07 PM

Thank you, now I feel a little less like a fruitcake for running around taking pictures of the fence in the playground, Ill check into it and see if I can find out who did the carvings!
I was also going to take your advice and destroy them, I just didnt want to be arrested for vandalizing or something:D so Ill wait until a rainy day when there is less people around!
I am also going to make a mission of photographing the masons buildings in town I return with them, in the meantime here's an obelisk also situated in the same park as the playground (the only park in town really) it's in memory of a writer named JP Jacobsen!
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8707074062.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094426)

pollock

29-03-2007, 02:14 PM

Ok ill also post this one in big, you cant see them otherwise, !

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/8707143879.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5094508)

tinmenace

29-03-2007, 02:15 PM

Thank you, now I feel a little less like a fruitcake for running around taking pictures of the fence in the playground, Ill check into it and see if I can find out who did the carvings!
I was also going to take your advice and destroy them, I just didnt want to be arrested for vandalizing or something:D so Ill wait until a rainy day when there is less people around!
I am also going to make a mission of photographing the masons buildings in town I return with them, in the meantime here's an obelisk also situated in the same park as the playground (the only park in town really) it's in memory of a writer named JP Jacobsen!

Neutralize the symbols, right, and don't get caught! LOL. Let me know when you think you might do it and I'll send good vibes your way that day.

Interesting monument. What is that on the top? Kinda looks like a pine cone or acorn or something.

tinmenace

29-03-2007, 02:21 PM

That "R" shaped thing on the right is interesting, I will look it up in my symbolism dictionary and see the chevrons on the left? I've noticed that design, pretty consistently, in Sumerian art, especially as designs on clothes. I'll try find a few pics (scan some if I have to). Give me a few days.

Thanks for the great great info! See how sneaky they are? Sneak their rotten symbols in on us and our youth. Creeps!

pollock

29-03-2007, 05:48 PM

tinmenace

29-03-2007, 07:44 PM

Also there is thirteen lines in the bit on the right!

I had also posted the symbol for the town and kommune at the beginning of this post, but somehow it disappeared so I'll post it again.

http://www.thisted.dk/images/home/logo.gif

Im beginning to see why young people never have a chance in this town!

Wow!!! Unbelievable! I'm going to do a bit of research on this. I'm interested in the architecture specifically. Thanks for sharing!

pollock

29-03-2007, 09:04 PM

Let me know when you think you might do it and I'll send good vibes your way that day.

Thank you I will:)

F

lottie

29-03-2007, 09:10 PM

tinmenace

30-03-2007, 12:14 AM

omg- bout the playground symbols etc....thats way dodgy!! i agree- draw/paint big pink hearts over them!! just a quick note- i saw the bit you said about pine cone on top of column thingy- this is a significant symbol too- i think icke himself mentioned the 'pinecone' symbolism in a newsletter a few months ago after a trip to Rome!! (memory is bad- i'll try find some info for y'all!) still havn't had a chance to take photo's of my home town symbolism but i will- enjoying thread- hope to bring more to it- just 'work' sucks me back into the matrix and drains me- so i seem to spend all my free time trying to get back to being 'me' instead of 'professional me' - its hard and tiring!!( cant wait till we are free of the slavery!!) *yawns*

Aw, poor Lottie, big hugs!

Yes, the newsletter with references to the pine cone, is "The Glory that was Rome"

From the newsletter:

In Babylon, the pine tree, or Christmas tree, represented Nimrod. A log - the 'Yule Log' - was thrown on the fire to symbolise his death and, on what became our Christmas Day, his resurrection was symbolised as a tree with decorations and presents. In the Old Testament, we are told in Jeremiah 10: 3:

'For the customs of the people are vain; for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman 4; They deck it with silver and with gold, they fasten it with nails and with hammers that it move not.'

In the major courtyard of the 'Christian' Vatican we therefore have the biggest sculpture of a pine cone anywhere in the world.

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/07/january/keystoheaven.jpg

It is an ancient representation of Nimrod and behind it is the Vatican seal with the two cross keys, 'St Peter's Keys to Heaven' that are actually the keys to the pagan mysteries said to have been held by the god Janus (Nimrod) and the goddess Cybele (Semiramis).

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/07/january/trinity.jpg

Babylon gave its trinity to Egypt and so we have Osiris-Horus-Isis, the Egyptian father, virgin-born son and mother. Above is an Egyptian symbol of Osiris (Nimrod) in the form of a pine cone.

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/07/january/nimrod_greek.jpg

And here is the Greek version of Nimrod/Tammuz, known as Dionysus, carrying the pine cone staff ...

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/07/january/popes_pinecone.jpg

... just like the popes do still to this day.

tinmenace

30-03-2007, 12:16 AM

Actually, when I look at the bigger photo, it looks like an egg with some sort of band around it, or maybe in a cup of some sort. I wonder that that means? I'll see if I can find anything...

lumukanda

02-04-2007, 01:14 PM

ok, i'm going to start the little illuminati symbolism tour of my hometown, paarl, south africa, with this school. it's always fascinated me because of it's architecture, it looks babylonian, and all over the walls are egyptian type symbols.

http://www.paarlgim.co.za/global_images/photo_gallery/laerskool/toring.jpg

http://www.paarlgim.co.za/global_images/photo_gallery/laerskool/2.jpg

this is a school for kids from about 9-12 years old, a seriously negative building.

next on the tour is the afrikaans language monument, this penis like monument is right next door to the amphitheatre, the vagina in the setup is underneath the obelisk bit, it's one of those things (no idea what they're called), that lets the sun in and on a certain day of the year it shines on a certain spot, in this case, the middle of a fountain.

http://www.taalmuseum.co.za/images/monument_foto_e.jpg

thats all for now, i'll be taking my camera out on the town sometime this week and more will follow.

tinmenace

02-04-2007, 01:41 PM

Wow! That building is so not good. You're right, it feels dark. Thanks for the photos and info!

lumukanda

02-04-2007, 01:59 PM

the guy who designed the place was the local dominee (priest) of the Dutch reformed church, he was according to my contact at the local musuem, a very dark man, he also designed the biggest church in town.
both building have a peculiar sign above the doors (too high up for me to get a decent shot), it's a sun with what i think is latin writing, but in a very elaborate script. the school has taken that as it's logo, or a variation therof anyway.

http://www.paarlgim.co.za/global_images/layout/laerskool/logo_small.gif

tinmenace

02-04-2007, 02:10 PM

Well, I've never trusted clergy, especially not powerful ones. Yes, that sun rising with the two crosses...not cool at all!

It's a shame 'cos Paarl is so gorgeous. My doctor here is from Paarl. Her parents still live there...Laubscher.

lumukanda

02-04-2007, 02:18 PM

small small world, hey? paarl is really beautiful, but there is an undercurrent in this place that is almost sinister, drug usgage is though the roof, violent crime is on the rise, but the nice thing is where i live, within 10 minutes of leaving my house on foot, i'm in the mountains, and there you can spend the entire day just walking, swimmming.

tinmenace

02-04-2007, 02:47 PM

How wonderful for you! I miss the countryside in South Africa. I always spent a lot of time hiking. I lived for 18 months in the bush (KNP) before leaving. That was the ultimate. I miss it.

lumukanda

02-04-2007, 03:08 PM

by KNP i assume you mean Kwa-Zulu Natal? beautiful country out that side of the world, spent three months there last year, absolute magic.

tinmenace

02-04-2007, 03:37 PM

Oops, sorry, I meant Kruger National Park on the Hazyview side.

During my time there, I stayed at the Karos Lodge at the Kruger Gate (my company paid, but hotel living is just not cool, even though the lodge was very nice, and I decided to find another place to stay). I stayed in the Cybele Forest (rented a space from an Avo farmer, and it was stunningly beautiful), and later I rented a rondavel between Hazyview and Graskop.

If ever I go back to South Africa to live, I will stay in the Eastern Transvaal. Just something about that place that makes me so happy and at peace.

But, yes I love Kwa-Zulu also!

lumukanda

02-04-2007, 03:46 PM

i know the feeling, i spent 6 months last year in hotels, not cool at all, also spent a day in the kruger, was quite cool too, they needed us in an out of there fast, so they chartered a plane to get us to the airport, and a helicopter to get us to the location, so that was a first for me, the kruger by helicopter.
while you were up there did you go anywhere near timbabvati? amazing place, such energy!

midwich cuckoo

07-04-2007, 06:48 PM

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/03/250px-FyrishfromEvanton.JPG
The Fyrish Monument as seen from Evanton, 15 minutes from my house.

http://forum.everyonedoesit.co.uk/gallery/data/513/9739-fyrish1.jpg

The Fyrish Monument is a monument built in 1782 on Fyrish Hill (Cnoc Fyrish), in Fyrish near Evanton, Easter Ross, Scotland, on the orders of Sir Hector Munro, a native lord of the area who had served in India as a general. As the local population were being cleared off their land to make way for sheep, employment was a problem and so it was built to give the locals some work (yeah right!). It represents the Gate of Negapatam, a port in Madras, India, which General Munro took for the British in 1781. It is visible from almost anywhere in the parishes of Kiltearn and Alness.

http://forum.everyonedoesit.co.uk/gallery/data/528/mason_munro.jpg
Sir Hector is wearing the regalia of a Freemason and was possibly an office bearer in a local Masonic Lodge.

Incidently, A Munro is a Scottish mountain with a height over 3000 feet (914.4 metres). They are named after Sir Hugh Munro, who produced the first attempt at an exhaustive catalogue of such hills, known as Munro's Tables, in 1891.

(http://www.ambaile.org.uk/en/item/item_photograph.jsp?item_id=1027)

tinmenace

07-04-2007, 09:20 PM

Ooh! I love this!

ho1ogram

09-04-2007, 08:33 AM

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9526/warmemkb9.jpg
Melbourne War Memorial. Souls lining up to give themselves to the Anzac spirit... sacraficial cannon fodder.

This picture illustrates the true meaning of war and who the soldiers and families are serving.

lottie

16-04-2007, 03:18 PM

ok giys... i got a great pic of an obelisk which a friend and i stumbled upon where i live- i knew there was a monument up there but i had no idea it was an obelisk....havnt been up there since i 'woke up'!!1 lol!! i was wondering ....ive tried to host it on image shack etc but it wont work...anychance i could email the pics to one of you who could post them for me?!! i know its a bit cheeky but i really want to share them withyou all but im crap with computers etc!!! :)

limelady

16-04-2007, 04:16 PM

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7518/culverobdw5.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5514/culverobeliskhn1.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9397/inscriptiononobeliskea1.jpg

lottie

17-04-2007, 04:53 PM

Thanks Limelady for posting these,
this is an obelisk on Culver Point on the island, Lookfar came over for the day and we went to check it out, i hadnt noticed it was an obelisk before so it was a shock to see it from an 'awakened' perspective! Lookfar also pointed out that it consists of 33 levels including the capstone!! :eek:
i didnt photograph the inscription on the other side but maybe lookfar will- it was dedicated to the Earl of ....(cant remember) and it was for his services to the 'advancement of maritime technology..' but anyway- shocked as i am...its further proof that the symbology is everywhere!!
In the same area there is a 'diused' military type underground thingy which ive got to look further into but we noticed at least 15 arials poking out of the top of it (its buried underground but the grass has grown ver the top) but its all chained up so you cant go near it- i'd say if it was 'disused' then why stop the public going and having a look at it or at least the courtyard...and why all the very new looking arials and dishes all over the top...? anyway i shall investingate further for y'all....!! :D

masonic3

17-04-2007, 05:46 PM

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7518/culverobdw5.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5514/culverobeliskhn1.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9397/inscriptiononobeliskea1.jpg

This is clearly not Illuminati, but a Jungian archetypal phallic symbol, and you're obsession with it is suggestibe of some unconscious trauma.

lumukanda

17-04-2007, 06:19 PM

and the jung wasn't doing the illuminati's bidding? nice try bud.

masonic3

17-04-2007, 08:29 PM

and the jung wasn't doing the illuminati's bidding? nice try bud.

Look, my girlfriend has been studying psychology for over 6 years now, and knows more about Jung than some of his own students, no doubt. She has been revising steadily for her MSc for over 2 months now, which involves revision of over 8 hours a day and untold stress, and I am sure that even you will conceed that she knows more about Jung than you could possibly know. She tells me that there is *no* connection between Jung and the Illuminati, and that in fact the man was not interested in organised societies.

I think you need to get your facts staight. Also, your statement didn't make the slightest bit of sense. Jung doing the Illuminati's bidding....for what exactly? I didn't say that Jung designed the statues, only that his psychological theory was interested in archetypes, as those structures seemed reminiscent of. You are so paranoid.

Doh!

lottie

17-04-2007, 08:33 PM

masonic3

17-04-2007, 08:40 PM

and you are a pyschologist now are you m3?? and where did obsessed come from?? im just merely stating some symbology ...why so defensive? maybe its nothing, maybe it isnt, but i didnt put it up to recieve personal attacks about it, just sharing my findings wrong or right...

No my girlfriend is studying...........:confused: Didn't you read?

I'm sorry, it's just all this blatant paranoia without any sense or reasoning drives me nuts. I just think you would see secrets and paranoia in anything. Besides, as you may have told from my tone, it was very lighthearted, as I'm sure even Freud was about his theory.

Good day.

lottie

17-04-2007, 08:44 PM

sorry i wrote that before you posted yours so i appreciate where you are coming from, but even still whether im paranoid about everything is my business not yours, you worry about you...i'll worry about me! thanks! :D

lookfar

17-04-2007, 09:19 PM

Nice pics there Lotts & it was a great day:) :D Here are a few more, plus the one with the inscription... (hope I can remember how to get them up!)

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/907/11042007176sz0.jpg

tinmenace

18-04-2007, 12:59 AM

Hehe, it's alright, under this mop of red hair of mine is a platinum blonde in hiding! She shows herself allll too often!

Upload the picture onto the web, then post the URL. ;)

lookfar

18-04-2007, 02:03 AM

Ok here goes again, hopefully work this time, got some expert help:)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2973/11042007173lm2.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5421/11042007170dh9.jpg

oneofmany

18-04-2007, 08:17 AM

and the jung wasn't doing the illuminati's bidding? nice try bud.

I hate to say this, but what I have read of Carl Gustav Jung, I would have to agree with M3's assessment on this. The man was totally enlightened to the workings of the soul, and although was a secret society member, the works of his show that he wasn't a slave to their beliefs at all, but in fact trying to wake us all up to the possibilities we all have within us.

jimijams

18-04-2007, 01:57 PM

I took this photo from the balcony of my hotel this weekend at Tweed Heads on the NSW/QLD border. This monument sits right on the border and looks freemasonic to me.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9573/dscn3542te1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

masonic3

18-04-2007, 02:12 PM

limelady

18-04-2007, 02:38 PM

I hate to say this, but what I have read of Carl Gustav Jung, I would have to agree with M3's assessment on this. The man was totally enlightened to the workings of the soul, and although was a secret society member, the works of his show that he wasn't a slave to their beliefs at all, but in fact trying to wake us all up to the possibilities we all have within us.

Yeah, well I've read Jung, and I'm NOT convinced the man was on target with a lot of stuff.....especially his archetypes etc. But say for a moment both Freudian and Jungian psychology have a basis in reality, and we are all phallus mad at our core, where did this 'programming' stem from to begin with? If its part of our ancient heritage.... how/who implanted this phallus infactuation/idolation/worship (or should that be whoreship?)...and "why" into our generational psyche's to begin with? And why is this phallis worship being constantly reinforced in Illuminati architecture and monuments? What power does it hold over humanity?

tinmenace

18-04-2007, 03:05 PM

Excellent questions, Lime.

oneofmany

18-04-2007, 03:24 PM

Yeah, well I've read Jung, and I'm NOT convinced the man was on target with a lot of stuff.....especially his archetypes etc. But say for a moment both Freudian and Jungian psychology have a basis in reality, and we are all phallus mad at our core, where did this 'programming' stem from to begin with? If its part of our ancient heritage.... how/who implanted this phallus infactuation/idolation/worship (or should that be whoreship?)...and "why" into our generational psyche's to begin with? And why is this phallis worship being constantly reinforced in Illuminati architecture and monuments? What power does it hold over humanity?

Your answer is more Freudian than Jungian in nature from what I have comprehended of their work, Carl Jung had more to do with the inner workings of the soul, than the Freudian concept of all males wanting to sleep with their mothers and so forth. Jung was more interested in funnily enough what Freud called the id. Which we know today as the ego, but I believe because if his teachings by secret societies, Jung had a greater understanding of what was really going on, mainly to do with the teachings he probably picked up about the temple of man in Luxor by his secret society brethren. I have only read a few books by Jung, and don't claim to fully understand his teachings, but from what I do, Freud, and Jung are like chalk and cheese. I have read little on Freud, so I don't feel fully qualified to answer your question fully. Sorry Limelady

lumukanda

18-04-2007, 03:26 PM

Yeah, well I've read Jung, and I'm NOT convinced the man was on target with a lot of stuff.....especially his archetypes etc. But say for a moment both Freudian and Jungian psychology have a basis in reality, and we are all phallus mad at our core, where did this 'programming' stem from to begin with? If its part of our ancient heritage.... how/who implanted this phallus infactuation/idolation/worship (or should that be whoreship?)...and "why" into our generational psyche's to begin with? And why is this phallis worship being constantly reinforced in Illuminati architecture and monuments? What power does it hold over humanity?

this is kind of the point i was trying to make, next time i'll use more words, there is this overpowering programming we all have for these 'sexual' symbols, which are used so much by the illuminati, perhaps it's just a completely base thing, referring to our natural urge to reproduce, but i don't think so. these symbols have a power, whether it's natural or learned i suppose would be the question, probably a bit of both, but jung's teachings go a long way to re-enforcing these symbols in our lives.

tinmenace

18-04-2007, 03:33 PM

Agreed!

tommi

25-04-2007, 09:50 PM

I've not seen a great deal where I am at the minute, in southern Spain, but there is an obelisk on top of a hill nearby, completely on its own! I'll get a pic of it. There is literally nothing nearby for ages..

aznality

27-04-2007, 12:51 PM

You really grabbed my attention with all those pics of Melb, because that's where I happen to reside also. I pass through Melb Central everyday. I realised somebody's suggestion of the Tower representing a penis, going through the cone pyramid, is a highly possible representation of sexual energy. Very interesting.

mjjh

30-04-2007, 11:10 PM

Hi all, i work in london and recently bought the 3 disc DVD freedom or.. and after watching the first DVD put a rubbish sack in my wheelie bin to be confronted by one of the images that David had taked about (the bound bundle of sticks with axe head) of my local authorities crest,the symbol of fasicm!
Since then i've started to look of other images and i work in the City of London and have been stunded by the hundreds of symbols,and i mean hundreds.I have started to walk from the station to the office (which takes 40mins) instead of the tube and now walk with my head looking up and around and not down (like the rest of London).I will have to take my camera and post some examples on here.St Pauls,Bank(says it all) Oxford St,Regent St,Baker St Station,its amazed me and got me active! I change my route as much as i can,one that makes me chuckle is the images on the Trade Union Offices,so obvious now,
Has anyone any info on or heard of the Wellcome Building in Euston London its stunning....pics and more to follow

tinmenace

01-05-2007, 12:50 AM

Right, that bundle of sticks is called a Fasces.

They're on either side of the American flag in our House of Representatives.

http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo/fasces_US_congress.jpg

I sure look forward to seeing your photos.

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 05:49 PM

Here some taken photos in my city, Bordeaux (France). A monument keeps my attention. This column was constructed to the memory of fighters for the revolution. The symbolic one is very loaded, the statue at the top of the particularly explicit column.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4919/girondinsnt5.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=girondinsnt5.jpg)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7017/horses2nu8.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=horses2nu8.jpg)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5803/horsesvg3.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=horsesvg3.jpg)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2143/contrere4.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=contrere4.jpg)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1808/detail2bx9.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detail2bx9.jpg)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5347/dianecb8.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dianecb8.jpg)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2945/coqqz9.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coqqz9.jpg)

A little more far, in front of the former offices of the commerce chamber, a sculpture particularly kept my attention...
Interesting, no ? :D

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8586/frisejb6.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frisejb6.jpg)

a detail :

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2402/detail1qt1.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detail1qt1.jpg)

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 05:57 PM

Excellent!

What do you know about the statue on top of this column?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5347/dianecb8.jpg

She appears quite frequently, but I just don't know where to find more info about her. I have posted images of this character in several posts on the forum. She appears in many cities on top many columns, but I don't know anything about her. What is in her hands?

Here she is again, this time at the University of Texas. I have a thread about the symbolism there.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/00ANmv-20829084.jpg

Click here if you want to read it (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2148)

limelady

06-05-2007, 06:11 PM

I'm pretty sure its Isis who is usually depicted with wings.

One of the things she hold in the pic could be what's known as a sistrum
http://www.burningmanopera.org/2004/Isis_sistrum.jpg

http://www.nic.funet.fi/~magi/kuvia/eclipse1999/budapest/park-02.jpeg

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 06:21 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7051/6monumentgirondins02my8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I found this : At the top of approach of 43m, a genius of Freedom. In the foot da the column, two groups of bronzy horses representing the Triumph of the Republic and that of Concorde.
Here's a general view. But we can see that the "black godess" is breakin the chains of freedom !!! Double langage :D
I think this statue is the symbol of Isis, Mithra, Diane, Perséphone, Hécate and so other many names given in the centuries as D. Icke says in the child of the matrix.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3281/girondinsitp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 06:26 PM

Horses eh? Yeah this one has horses too. It looks to me that she has a torch of some sort in one hand and in her left hand is a plant that I'm very curious about. What kind of plant is that?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/UT-Tower-in-Orange.jpg

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 06:43 PM

Amazing coincidence :eek:
Where is that monument ? Do you know more about it ?
That does not constitute a proof but, for me, it is a sign moreover which tends to reveal a certain continuity and especially a supranationality in this kinds of monument.

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 06:47 PM

That monument stands at the University of Texas. Click here to read the Forum thread. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2148)

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 06:59 PM

That monument stands at the University of Texas. Click here to read the Forum thread. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2148)

Thanks. Sorry, I didn't see the link in your previous post ;)

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 07:30 PM

Not a lot on the statue there, but it gives you some food for thought. Other than the obvious connections, like Limelady points out, with Isis, the closest I've come to identifying that deity, is the goddess of Victory, Nike. Strangely she often is carrying different things in her hands, which makes me wonder that the symbolism behind that is. And of course, Victory makes sense because she's almost always erected as a symbolism of victory in war. I've often just assumed that because she's carrying something different every time, that it wasn't the same goddess...but now I think I'm starting to realize that the second layer of symbolism lies in what's in her hands! Your thoughts?

http://www.antipodean.org/photos/berlin/berlin09.jpg
Berlin

http://kassevans.com/images/Victory-1_550pix.jpg
Rome?

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 07:41 PM

The thing which I keep is that it is the same persons (or secret societies) with this will to perpetuate these symbols. There is definitely an unique will behind all that.
In my view:D

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 07:57 PM

On a different thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495&page=4), I was talking briefly about the goddess Athena, as relating to Rice University whose mascot is the Athenian Owl. If you remember there was a shooting at the Johnsons Space Center a few weeks ago, and the land it's built on was donated by Rice.

Anyway, I was posting about Athena, and she didn't have her usual OWL in her hand. I didn't know who or what was in her hand, and now I've just discovered that it's Nike, the goddess of Victory.

It's all so intertwined...one spell on top of another.

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 08:35 PM

Wow, you seems to have done great researches !
Genius of Freedom / Goddess of Victory...
The symbol was sold under so much of names, of aspects, a little like the history of Jesus common to several past myths.
:confused: What do you think about it?

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 09:08 PM

Well, I believe that the 'mythical' immortal gods were not mythical at all. I think they really existed and continue to exist to this day (some historical stories tell us that certain people had one parent that was an immortal god, like Hercules for example...how do we logically accept this if one parent was mythological?).

I think that the gods changed their names through the ages, and still do this today. For example Sumerian Inanna was known as Ishtar in Babylon, Astarte in Syro-Palestinian, Turan in Etruscan, Venus in Rome, Isis in Egypt and Aphrodite in Greece. All the same person, often hundreds or thousands of years apart. They change their names as they go, and this is just as a technique of confusion for the sake of keeping their immortality secret. This name changing is called a REGNAL NAMING, and royals most commonly do it when their status changes - like ascending the throne, or marrying, for example.

Popes also change their names when they ascend their throne in the Vatican. Joseph Alois Ratzinger became Pope Benedict XVI, for example.

So, this is why the royals interbreed so incessantly. They need to keep their own strain of DNA as pure as possible because the genetic coding that allows them immortality is embedded in their particular DNA.

I also am certain (and am currently researching a way to prove it) that they use magick on us to force their version of reality on us. Magick and Quantum physics is one and the same thing. All this is a magickal illusion of their making and they use their symbols and gods to keep the spell in place.

The spell I'm talking about is Dogma. This, to me, explains how even when faced with irrefutable evidence that contradicts the official version of events, many people are still unable to break free from the dogma that chains their minds. Thoughts perpetuate reality, and this is how the masses are perpetuating this awful illusion that we call 'reality'. It's tricky, they're bewitched, but also keep the spell in place with their thoughts. It's one spell built on another. In the movie the Matrix, the Oracle says something similar to this to Neo. Something like "one program dependent on another...". This is exactly what's going on. If the loadbearing spell can be identified and neutralized, the entire house of cards is going to come crashing down.

[/ramble] :)

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 09:40 PM

Thank you for your answer. I share this point of view but I did not understand loadbearing expression ? As for the fall of the pyramid, it will just be necessary not to be underneath :D

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 09:44 PM

Thank you for your answer. I share this point of view but I did not understand loadbearing expression ? As for the fall of the pyramid, it will just be necessary not to be underneath :D

Load bearing - It's the pillar or wall that holds up everything that is built above it. Every house has load bearing walls, and if you break this wall down, your house will fall down. :)

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 09:58 PM

Ok thanks ;)
But how can we identify an invisible threat ? :confused:

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 10:22 PM

I don't think it's completely invisible. Look at all the symbolism around us, especially the enormous obelisks, sometimes disguised as office buildings...

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9625/pyramidhj1.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Washington_Monument_Dusk_Jan_2006.jpg/451px-Washington_Monument_Dusk_Jan_2006.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Canary.wharf.and.dome.london.arp.jpg/800px-Canary.wharf.and.dome.london.arp.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wm.jpg

There's an entire Obelisk thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1971), if you want to see more.

Using only the obelisks as an example, these enormous symbols harness the kind of energy that we are able to harness naturally. They override our will with the massive harnessing of these energies, almost hogging it all for themselves. These symbols are used to keep the spells in place...these and many others...I don't believe that this is an impossible task to overcome. I'm not talking about the destruction of the obelisks, I'm more talking about finding a way to redirect the energy.

pierre_jean

06-05-2007, 10:31 PM

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 10:49 PM

:confused:
You really mean that this structure and others (pyramids, stonehenge, cathedrals, etc...) are some kind of "trap" of energy ? But how does it works ? How did they capture this energy ? It's something crazy :eek:

It's all about LIGHT and the manipulation thereof. I think that obelisks are styled after a natural phenomenon called SUN PILLARS

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/sp2.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/sp.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/2-00-sun-pillar.jpg

Now consider this:

...Eliphas Levi says that he identified three fundamental principles of magick, and they were:

* That the material universe is only a small part of total reality, which includes many other planes and modes of consciousness. Full knowledge and full power in the universe are only attainable through awareness of these other aspects of reality. One of the most important of these levels or aspects of reality is the "astral light", a cosmic fluid which may be molded by will into physical forms. (light manipulation as discussing quantum mechanics)

* That human willpower is a real force, capable of achieving absolutely anything, from the mundane to the miraculous.
(consciousness)

* That the human being is a microcosm, a miniature of the macrocosmic universe, and the two are fundamentally linked. Causes set in motion on one level may equally have effects on another. (hologram)

Initial Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliphas_Levi#Theory_of_magic)

It's ALL about light, and hence the MASSIVE sun worship also.

pierre_jean

07-05-2007, 02:20 AM

Thanks my friend for such an answer. I've never heard about these sun pillars. It's wonderful !
So esoterism, like the French occult author says, is surrounding everything in this universe ? Astral light, Qi, Ether, Force, Universal Mind etc... all synonymous words ? I understand now more my experience, that happens one year ago. I really feel (like my signature means) a kind of "plenitude" I don't know how to translate :p
It was indescriptible. I really feel a force spreading through me, but all was unknown for me, I didn't even know what was a chakra at this time !! :D
But since one year, my research answered my questions. Speaking with open minded people helps a lot. Thanks !!!
The search continues...

tinmenace

07-05-2007, 02:38 AM

You're so welcome! I'm glad it rings true for you. It sure makes sense to me.

One more thing. The most powerful energy comes from the light within ourselves.

They have to harness light with their obelisks. We are born with the power to use our inner light to make changes. ;)

pierre_jean

07-05-2007, 02:52 AM

My current conclusions, although my research recent (but intense) brought me until this discussion. Now, as you said, it is necessary to be occupied of its interior light like George Harrison composed a few years ago already...
In any case, I really do not know if I want to devote me in the occult sciences and I don't know how to have more power :D

tinmenace

07-05-2007, 02:56 AM

Right. You'll find what's right for you. It's a personal experience...:)

pierre_jean

16-05-2007, 11:17 PM

Continuation of the visit of Bordeaux. This is the town hall.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3260/11mairieyw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The town hall present on its frontage two snakes which seem to emerge from the clock. Strange...

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9386/toitmairieuj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another interesting thing: the blazon.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3037/bxdm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It should be noted that, because of the curve of the river, the town of Bordeaux was named the port of the moon (le port de la lune).
Symbol of the moon which one finds on the logo of the city. 3 crescents.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9696/logomairieqz0.png (http://imageshack.us)

This symbol is also called Chiffre of Diane of Poitiers.
There exists in Upper Normandy with Anet a strange castle, which was built there by Madam de Valentinois in other words Diane of Poitiers.
This castle is stuffed strange symbols, in particular triple the moon as this one which is found in the paintings, carved in wood or the stone, here an example:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4831/18187070506040335nz8.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18187070506040335nz8.jpg)

Finally the vault of the castle built by Philibert of the Elm, according to a cosmological shéma corresponding to the Emerald Table, comprises one of the most strange crosses of France, flanked of the 4 moons with in its center a star:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4512/18187070506033931pu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This castle seems entire to be dedicated to astronomy, with the magic practices, and of the odd objects resemble instruments to locate itself in the sky!

But this symbol of 3 moon can be compared to a triquetra. It is an ancient Celtic Triple-Goddess symbol made popular lately by the TV show "CHARMED".

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3418/charmtg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The word "triquetra" is composed of several elements and comes from Latin: "try", "ket", and "ruffle", the whole meaning "3 corners literally". Triquetra, or "Celtic node" or "node of the trinity" comprises various symbolisms, however all rejoined with figure 3. Among these various interpretations, that which spring generally is that which was adopted by the Celtic Christian Church: The Trinity, represented by the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. In this precise case, will triquetra it is sometimes represented by three interlaced fish. Other interpretations confer the concept of time rather to him, namely last, present and future...

To be continued... :rolleyes:

tinmenace

17-05-2007, 12:30 AM

Fantastic! Keep it coming!

pierre_jean

19-05-2007, 01:08 AM

A little more about Bordeaux...

The Saint-Andrew cathedral of Bordeaux. Gothic style. It was devoted in 1096. It was rebuilt of XIIe in XVIe centuries. It is the most imposing church of Bordeaux.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9513/bordeauxcathexter160305nc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A superb rosette (rosace) on the frontage

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4715/800pxbordeauxcathedralexq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Inside the cathedral

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6669/bordeaux42cathedrale13xq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It is flanked of a tower of XVe century in the east of the bedside: the bell-tower or Tower "Pey Berland", built on order of the archbishop of the same name.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7469/400pxbordeauxtourpeybercz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

"Notre Dame of Aquitaine" rules 6 meters height and weighing more than one ton the city overhangs since the top of tower.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8369/bordeaux5cathedrale2rv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

pierre_jean

19-05-2007, 01:15 AM

Here is the "Grand Théâtre" !!

The Large Theatre of Bordeaux, ordered by the marshal of Richelieu, governor of Guyenne, and built by the architect Victor Louis, was inaugurated on April 7, 1780 with the representation of Athalie of Jean Racine. Classified historic building, reminiscence of Antiquity by its peristyle, the work of 88 meters out of 47 of neo-classic style, falls under the opulent town planning of Bordeaux inherited the century of the Lights. It shelters a room of spectacle of a thousand of places, perfect example of theatre to Italian.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5044/grandtheatrerl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A detail :D

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9824/bordeaux3theatre1ml8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The interior staircase is remarkable

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1405/grandtheatrevnk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Looks like a masonic lodge style ? :confused:

tinmenace

19-05-2007, 01:33 AM

Wow, simply incredible!

pierre_jean

19-05-2007, 01:34 AM

Aquitaine and UK has a particular history...
France in 1330

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/189/france1330xv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

██ Territoires anglais en 1330

██ Royaume de France

██ possessions des Plantagenets en 1180

Here's the blazon of Aquitaine

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2272/blasonaquitainela3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And one of the blazon of England

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8889/blasonangleterrejk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The Aliénor queen of Aquitaine, girl of the duke Guillaume X, was with the Middle Ages among the most influential characters of all Europe. She married in 1152 the duke of Normandy and comte d' Anjou, who became in 1154 the king of England Henri II Plantagenêt.

The French victory with the battle of Castillon marked the reconquest of Bordeaux in 1453. Louis XI gives the duchy in prerogative to his brother Charles de Valois in 1469. He returns definitively to the French crown to died of this one in 1472.

Here for a little summarized history :D

geible

12-06-2007, 04:31 PM

Hi,guys, I'm from China. I just read some opinions of David Icke, which has answered lots of questions in my mind all along.
I bring some pictures, those show a very ancient symbol named "Hua Biao" built in big squares.

http://h1.ripway.com/geible/huabiaosquare.jpg

The "Hua Biao" lies in the center of the square which is built by sea side.

http://h1.ripway.com/geible/huabiaosquare-.jpg

This is the "Hua Biao" in the square of the above pic.

http://h1.ripway.com/geible/huabiao-2.jpg

This shows the top of the "Hua Biao" built in the front of the Tian An Men Square of Beijing.

http://h1.ripway.com/geible/tiananmensquare.jpg

This one is named "Qi Lin", which is always set double like two guards in front of the doors of some huge authorities in China.

geible

14-06-2007, 02:34 PM

Hi,guys, I'm from China. I just read some opinions of David Icke, which has answered lots of questions in my mind all along.
I bring some pictures, those show a very ancient symbol named "Hua Biao" built in big squares.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/huabiaosquare.jpg.jpg

The "Hua Biao" lies in the center of the square which is built by sea side.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/uabiaosquare-.jpg

This is the "Hua Biao" in the square of the above pic.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/huabiao-2.jpg

This shows the top of the "Hua Biao" built in the front of the Tian An Men Square of Beijing.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/tiananmensquare.jpg

This one is named "Qi Lin", which is always set double like two guards in front of the doors of some huge authorities in China.[/

tinmenace

14-06-2007, 03:45 PM

Welcome to the forum :)

Excellent post. Keep it coming!

limelady

14-06-2007, 04:36 PM

Hi geible .. Some very interesting symbolism there. I enjoyed your post, thankyou.

And welcome to the forum :D

Also pierre_jean.....an incredible post from you too!
This is a great thread.

geible

16-06-2007, 10:15 AM

I'm glad that you enjoy my post. Actually I'm not good at Chinese history,but the internet is giving me a lot of help. I have a lot more to bring you which would amaze you much more than the last one that I posted.

http://h1.ripway.com/anguskn/DI/2langshen.jpg
http://h1.ripway.com/anguskn/DI/2langshen-1.jpg

This man is called "Er Lang Shen",who has a third eye on his forehead and between the two eyes, which is as same as an humanoid reptilian, which was ever described by Credo Mutwa who was visited by David Icke in 1998.

This man is a brave general in ancient China, and his name in English can be translated into " 2nd-man (or His father's second son) God ". There are a lot of stories about him. Some said he was an ancient minister's son, whose name is "Li Bing". He ever fought with a special dragon named "Jiao" and successfully killed it. And he also helped his father to work on and finish a great water-control for people. People built temples for him after he died and worship him as a God. He and some other men who have the third eyes are also seen in some of the ancient Chinese fairy tales, which almost every Chinese kid knows, at least some of them!

By the way, do you notice something being adorned more like an "horn" thing on his hat?

pierre_jean

18-06-2007, 10:38 PM

Hello Geible, hello all,
Nice pics from China. you succeeded in avoiding the censure which prevails on the Chinese Internet (according to what medias says to us here) ?

By looking at the news, I saw that to Nice (PACA region), the Massena place came to be inaugurated. Returned for the pedestrians, this place is now covered with a superb black and white checkerwork. Moreover, by looking at the comment on the inauguration, I read : Which pleasure of finding a public space worthy of this name in the city. The general effect is successful. I like much the carpet checkerwork which emphasizes the red neo-classic frontages of the Place. The candelabra of style "Beautiful Time" date from the installation of the Place in 1955 and were restored. They emplifient the prospect towards the Fountain for the Sun (1955) also restored for the occasion and replaced on its site of origin. Drawn by Alfred Janniot, the sculptures representent the gods of the olympe.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7901/070616134019ahd0ygfp0jaar1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8641/dsc04853dq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Is it me or is it another hidden symbolism work ?

celtic isis

18-06-2007, 10:43 PM

Hi,guys, I'm from China. I just read some opinions of David Icke, which has answered lots of questions in my mind all along.
I bring some pictures, those show a very ancient symbol named "Hua Biao" built in big squares.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/huabiaosquare.jpg.jpg

The "Hua Biao" lies in the center of the square which is built by sea side.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/uabiaosquare-.jpg

This is the "Hua Biao" in the square of the above pic.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/huabiao-2.jpg

This shows the top of the "Hua Biao" built in the front of the Tian An Men Square of Beijing.

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/tiananmensquare.jpg

This one is named "Qi Lin", which is always set double like two guards in front of the doors of some huge authorities in China.[/

kool and welcome geible :D that star is incredible:eek:

celtic isis

18-06-2007, 10:46 PM

Here are some more logos from around Melbourne, they pretty much speak for themselves.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1532/roadstorecovery1mediumiu5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9793/logonb5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4434/logocommonwealthgamesyu3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

hey jimjams, great idea...this symbolism is everywhere round here too (in france)...mostly pyramids with suns behind them, illuminating them of course... that first sign above with the workman, looks like the DELL symbol.

I know, once you become symbol literate it's incredible how obvious things become eh! They don't hide anything it's right in front of our noses. Indeed if you want to hide something put it in plain view lol :D

kool later :)

geible

19-06-2007, 06:50 AM

Hello Geible, hello all,
Nice pics from China. you succeeded in avoiding the censure which prevails on the Chinese Internet (according to what medias says to us here) ?

..............

Is it me or is it another hidden symbolism work ?

Hi,pierre_jean, I don't quite understand about "the censure which prevails on the Chinese Internet". Do you mean the "Conspiracy" or "David Icke's works" or "The illuminati" or "Reptilian", stuff like that is always not welcome or being blamed on the Chinese Internet?
My answer is "No", As far as I know, I did some resarch and still could not find out even one Chinese website which people started to discuss David Icke's ideas or works. I mean David Icke is probably unknown to Chinese people inside China. I don't know how the US media tells you about what is going on in China.

freespark

19-06-2007, 03:44 PM

pierre_jean

19-06-2007, 10:30 PM

Hi,pierre_jean, I don't quite understand about "the censure which prevails on the Chinese Internet". Do you mean the "Conspiracy" or "David Icke's works" or "The illuminati" or "Reptilian", stuff like that is always not welcome or being blamed on the Chinese Internet?
My answer is "No", As far as I know, I did some resarch and still could not find out even one Chinese website which people started to discuss David Icke's ideas or works. I mean David Icke is probably unknown to Chinese people inside China. I don't know how the US media tells you about what is going on in China.

Hello Geible,
It's just that medias in France (and surely in Europe and US) are telling us that there is a censorship over chinese internet.
For example in wikipedia :
Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China is conducted under a wide variety of laws and administrative regulations. In accordance with these laws, more than sixty Internet regulations have been made by the People's Republic of China (PRC) government, and censorship systems are vigorously implemented by provincial branches of state-owned ISPs, business companies, and organizations.[1][2] The special administrative regions of Hong Kong and Macau have their own legal systems, so censorship does not apply there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_mainland_China

More generally in France, the image of the Chinese policy is rather very negative: dictatorship. In any case a visible dictatorship ;)
How you see them things of your country ?

PJ

geible

19-06-2007, 11:02 PM

Hello Geible,
It's just that medias in France (and surely in Europe and US) are telling us that there is a censorship over chinese internet.
For example in wikipedia :
Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China is conducted under a wide variety of laws and administrative regulations. In accordance with these laws, more than sixty Internet regulations have been made by the People's Republic of China (PRC) government, and censorship systems are vigorously implemented by provincial branches of state-owned ISPs, business companies, and organizations.[1][2] The special administrative regions of Hong Kong and Macau have their own legal systems, so censorship does not apply there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_mainland_China

More generally in France, the image of the Chinese policy is rather very negative: dictatorship. In any case a visible dictatorship ;)
How you see them things of your country ?

PJ

now, I see what you mean. Yes, as far as I know the goverment started to block some "sensitive" websites since the year 2000. In 2001, I was lucky to find some other ways to know those information without being noticed in China. Most of these ways were helped by the oringinal P2P technology to share information without being watched on the internet. BT and eMule etc. are all base on that.

Maybe SO FAR, it's the most successful country that is colonized by the "Reptilian" on the earth. The Doomsday is coming! But I don't fear that........

geible

20-06-2007, 01:55 AM

Wow this image is awesome. Would you be able to give a bit more information? And welcome!

I'll look it up...anyways! :)

I just did some research about this square on the internet. Actually I've been there twice. This square is built in a big sea side park named "Xing Hai Park" (the Star Sea Park) in Dalian of Liaoning province. This park was built by a Japanese Railway Company in 1909, and the original name is "Xing Ge Pu Park" (I don't know how to explain the first three words in Chinese way, so that I think it should come from a foreign language pronunciation). In 1945, it says there was a big stone showed up above sea in the park which was considered coming from the sky, so the big stone was then named "Xing Shi" (the Star Stone). The park's name is changed as "Xing Hai Park" since 1945.

This square named "Xing Hai Square" was built in the park in 1997, and it's the year when Hong Kong was given back to China, and some said it was built for that.

But I still could not believe the cloud stone has something to do with the big pentacle star symbol. Why is it not a hexagonal star? So many same questions on Chinese national flag and other countries.
http://image2.sina.com.cn/tn/k/2005-03-27/U268P138T3D31123F56DT20050327215137.jpg
Why not using this one?

geible

25-06-2007, 04:53 AM

http://h1.ripway.com/gable/word/Mao.jpg
The "Mao" from Chinese simplified character to hieroglyphic.
http://h1.ripway.com/gable/word/Empire.jpg
The "Di" from Chinese simplified character to hieroglyphic.

This is an amazing discovery on the Chinese hieroglyphic, which probably can prove the reptilian's real existence. Please take a look at the two uploaded pictures, those I found in a Chinese dictionary (published in 1716),which has already not been used in any offical field since Chairman Mao "destroied" the traditional Chinese character into simplified character, or even earlier than in 20th centry. These pictures show two words, one stands for Mao (the last name of Chairman Mao Ze Dong), which is originally come from one of the fisrt ancient china king's (empire Huang) 25 sons' last name. Just compare the hieroglyphic character with the simplified character and you will get an answer, this is the royal bloodline symbol.
The second word Stands for "Di"(means the empire), do you see the "tail"?
Take a look.

Pic: http://www.box.net/shared/ncgiukgmi9
Online dictionary: http://www.kangxizidian.com/org/index.php (Page 591 and 330)

limelady

03-07-2007, 04:25 AM

A new poster on the forum has started a thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5565) in general about what can be seen on google Earth. He/she has started a website (http://www.dubfinger.0catch.com/google/index.htm) with images.

I thought this one image from BAGHDAD (Before the Invasion) was very interesting because it shows an eye symbol with they dash out the side like has been shown about the little girl Madaline who was abducted.

http://www.dubfinger.0catch.com/google/b8.gif

Its a great website....go take a peep!!

lake

26-07-2007, 01:53 PM

This parliament room in Finland, Helsinki looks like all seeing eye:
http://www.kiinteistolehti.fi/images/previews/ekun1.jpg

Upper view here.. sorry couldn't link the image..
http://web.eduskunta.fi/dman/Document.phx?documentId=tv22806105625019&cmd=download

tinmenace

26-07-2007, 01:59 PM

This parliament room in Finland, Helsinki looks like all seeing eye:
http://web.eduskunta.fi/dman/Document.phx?documentId=tv22806105625019&cmd=download

Welcome to the forum :)

Yes, it sure does! :eek:

klinker

27-07-2007, 05:12 PM

Been meaning to take a pic and post this up. This gecko lizard type thing was put up by the local authority in my town centre. Written on it is 'What's the plan?' Given the whole rep questions et cetera it could be quite apt.

Not only that the studio logo below is interesting from an all seeing eye perspective and of course just to the left of these is a CCTV camera. All three object form a triangle which is almost upside down.

Is this all blatant or is it just me?

tinmenace

28-07-2007, 01:14 AM

Artemis Studios? AKA Diana, goddess of the chase.

That corner is loomie central. Say Jeff, see any scaly ladies on that corner?

klinker

31-07-2007, 12:00 PM

Artemis Studios? AKA Diana, goddess of the chase.

That corner is loomie central. Say Jeff, see any scaly ladies on that corner?

I'll have a closer look next time I'm there. ;)

tinmenace

31-07-2007, 02:59 PM

qasrose

05-08-2007, 12:54 AM

I know you find this shop everywere.. it's called BOOT'S

if you take the logo and turn it upside down, you find the numbers
2008

Coinsidence or wot?? this a sign saying somthing will happen on that year???..

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/SSA50169.jpg

ugizz

05-08-2007, 10:46 AM

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7973/latvijasgerbonisdf4.gif (http://imageshack.us)
National Emblem of the Republic of Latvia

I have this on every page in my passport...

adzboarder

09-08-2007, 01:36 AM

Gasrose you must draw crazy 2s !!

I don't see the boots one at all. :confused:

Turn it back the other way and I see that the "B" could be a number 13...

adzboarder

09-08-2007, 01:37 AM

There are a lot of 13's kicking around if you look carefully.

aletheia

12-08-2007, 12:06 AM

This is the very phallic-looking Second World War memorial outside the American embassy in Valetta, Malta. Malta being home to the Knights of Malta secret society. Valetta is not my home town though.

http://www.chrisf.com.au/images/WarMemorial.jpg

tinmenace

12-08-2007, 12:08 AM

Very phallic looking indeed!:eek:

aletheia

12-08-2007, 12:16 AM

I know. Where do these people get off?

tinmenace

12-08-2007, 12:18 AM

I know. Where do these people get off?

With a phallus like that, I hope nowhere near me :D

But more seriously, their time is up sweetie. Winds of change are a blowing and massive changes are coming. Just watch :)

aletheia

12-08-2007, 12:50 AM

The Jubilee Sculpture personally unveiled by Queen Elizabeth, in Winchester, Hampshire. It is dedicated to her Jubilee and is located just outside the city's Law Courts.

http://www.hampshirecam.co.uk/dec/wtr_sculpture2.jpg

Note that the 'eye' shape appears in the centre of the triangle formed by the three obelisk-shaped stones. Similar to the Masonic "all-seeing eye".

Compare also with the Eye of Horus.

http://www.civilization.ca/civil/egypt/images/scie01b.jpg

tinmenace

12-08-2007, 12:56 AM

The stone on the left looks like the top of the Poop....er I mean Pope's headdress.

aletheia

12-08-2007, 12:59 AM

Yes, apparently that stone was a nod to the "religious heritage" of the city. Namely, its bishops, cathedral etc.

revolution 9

12-08-2007, 02:02 AM

Is my local mall actually a temple? (http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/mall/mall.html)

Not sure, but it's interesting to speculate.

nickatnoon61

12-08-2007, 03:12 AM

tinmenace

12-08-2007, 04:07 AM

that is the fish symbol,Tinny.

I know Nicky :D I just like saying "poop". :eek:

nickatnoon61

12-08-2007, 04:16 AM

I know Nicky :D I just like saying "poop". :eek:

WELL...I NEVER......:eek:

flapjack

12-08-2007, 02:03 PM

http://www.rampantscotland.com/visit/graphics/kelburn23a.jpg

hello cheeky :D

qasrose

12-08-2007, 07:26 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/shreikster/Shiverpool%20June%202007/100_0649.jpg

situated in Liverpool, Rodney Street

They call it the McKenzies Grave.......

revolution 9

16-08-2007, 05:28 AM

Is my local mall actually a temple? (http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/mall/mall.html)

Not sure, but it's interesting to speculate.

Any comments on this? Serious article with lots of photos, I'd appreciate feedback if anyone has read it.

montag

16-08-2007, 10:23 AM

Giving Melbourne the eye
August 16, 2007

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1879/hub1608narrowweb300x391sn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The hub about to be installed.

Melbourne's search for a landmark to call its own might soon be over. This week a crane will install the centre hub and spindle of a 120-metre-high observation wheel at Docklands.

The Southern Star Observation wheel, which is due to open for business in November next year, will take its place among other sights that identify our city: the W-class tram, the Arts Centre tower and the MCG. What will set the wheel apart is that, like the London Eye that it recalls, it is designed for tourists. It will stand in the new Waterfront City leisure and shopping precinct for the purpose of entertaining visitors.

Greg Boyd, the chief executive of developers ING real estate, anticipates 1.5 million visitors taking a spin in the wheel in the first year, with the numbers tapering a little once locals have satisfied their acuriosity. On a clear day, viewers should be able to see as far as Geelong to the west and the Dandenongs to the east, he says. The top of the wheel will stand about as a high as the "goal posts" on the Bolte Bridge.

The cost of the tickets have yet to be announced, but the promoters say the price will be comparable to other tourist attractions such as the Melbourne Aquarium (where adult tickets are $25). Boyd says the wheel will offer a "more dynamic" viewing experience than the platform on the Rialto tower, and will have the advantage of being outside the city, which means the central business district will be part of the view.

The 21 air-conditioned cabins, with floor-to-ceiling glass walls, will each hold up to 20 people. Their size - 5.7 metres by 3.7 metres - will allow the people inside to walk around; that is unless vertigo keeps them glued to their seats.

There are three main contractors involved in the construction of the Wheel including:
Hansen Yunken: head contractor (overseeing all project elements)
Alfasi: fabrication and erection of steel work
Sanoyas Hishino Meisho Corporation: responsible for design, supply of components (namely cabins, hub and drive mechanism) and supervision of wheel structure. Most of steelwork is being fabricated in Australia (Melbourne and Tasmania).
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/giving-melbourne-the-eye/2007/08/16/1186857667937.html

qasrose

22-08-2007, 12:31 AM

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/DSC00205.jpg

this was actualy in my work McDonalds lol, notice the 3 wavey lines..

informationx

22-08-2007, 02:09 PM

Hi folks,

Check out this amazing grave stone symbol I found. Ive taken a few pics and a video of it on my webspace, so you can give your opinion as to what its meaning is.

I have rough ideas of what it could be, but nothing really specific and well founded.

Cheers!

http://information-x.110mb.com/GRAVE/grave-symbol.html

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i271/masher_2006/PARA/MINI-ME.jpg

stclair

25-08-2007, 01:28 PM

Hi - new to this forum but I have been "awake" now for about 5 years having know ALL my life that something wasnt right - something "didn't fit".

Just looking at the picture of the crop circle type formations next to the "Eye" building in Bhagdad reminded me of this ....

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kabbalahbeginner.com/images/kabbalah-tree-of-life.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.kabbalahbeginner.com/kabbalah-tree-of-life.php&h=589&w=323&sz=23&hl=en&start=26&um=1&tbnid=hyHxeEzaysrzSM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkabbalistic%2Bsymbols%26start%3D21%26 ndsp%3D21%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D 1B3GGGL_enGB209GB209%26sa%3DN

Is it me or does that symbol on the ground look like a Kabbalistic Tree of Life ...

Also look up the word "CABAL" in a dictionary!! Heres the link to it in the online oxford dictionary!!

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/cabal?view=uk

So if its in the OXFORD dictionary - why the hell isnt it in the Google Dictionary or do "they" think that the "Sheeple" are too blinkered to look up th oxford dictionary.

As many of us know "they" are a Luciferian (occultists) - the word Occult comes form the latin "occulere" meaning concealed!

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/occult?view=uk

Great Forum.
CURLYBLUE (UK)

"Everything is hidden in plain view" - Anon

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmind Burke.

nickatnoon61

25-08-2007, 09:00 PM

qasrose

25-08-2007, 10:05 PM

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/Camera%20Backup/100SSCAM/SSA50030.jpg

fresco

04-09-2007, 04:07 PM

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/blackburnwithdarwen/images/bblogo.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b8/Arms-blackburn.jpg/200px-Arms-blackburn.jpg

fresco

04-09-2007, 04:17 PM

Pyramid and all seeing eye above the main entrance

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Blackburn_arena1.jpg/800px-Blackburn_arena1.jpg

fresco

04-09-2007, 04:28 PM

http://i16.tinypic.com/4kwk3yu.jpg

fresco

04-09-2007, 05:26 PM

I live in this area, my house is in the far left of this picture.

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/blackburn/aerial/blk01.jpg

I came cross this aerial picture yestarday and it creeped me out, is that an owl?

Take a closer look here :
http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/blackburn/blk01.htm

and Compare it with the Washington D.C Owl
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/dc_occult.png

fresco

07-09-2007, 07:59 PM

steevo

12-09-2007, 06:09 PM

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd50/symbol333/SNV30002.jpg

I took this photo a few days ago in York, England. It's the Norwich Union building. Notice the pyramids!!!:eek:

steevo

12-09-2007, 06:10 PM

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd50/symbol333/SNV30012.jpg

I took this photo a few days ago in York, England.

steevo

12-09-2007, 06:11 PM

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd50/symbol333/SNV30010.jpg

I took this photo a few days ago in York, England.

steevo

12-09-2007, 06:12 PM

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd50/symbol333/SNV30011.jpg

I took this photo a few days ago in York, England.

mariag

18-09-2007, 10:12 AM

this is from a school in my hometown Örebro ; Sweden

http://www.oru.se/oru/upload/Institutioner/Teknik/Dokument/K%F6nsbalans/Bilder/ruLogo.gif
Interesting

deus_sumus

19-09-2007, 02:33 PM

This picture was taken at the Vicar Lane shopping centre in Chesterfield.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2333/img4099vb3.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:35 PM

http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/?action=view&current=Clip14.flv

Sorry for low quality, sampled with my cellular phone.

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:37 PM

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/Immagine25.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:39 PM

http://www.resistere.it/foto/stato/montecitorio.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:41 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Quirinale_-_Fontana_dei_Dioscuri.JPG/250px-Quirinale_-_Fontana_dei_Dioscuri.JPG

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:43 PM

http://www.maxpezzalinetwork.com/photoblog/images/2005_01_08_Day232-Navona.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:45 PM

http://z.about.com/d/goitaly/1/0/3/0/-/-/rome_popolo_1.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:48 PM

http://www.ratzingerbenedettoxvi.com/basilicasp.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:49 PM

http://www.romanconcrete.com/graphics/pantheon.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:50 PM

http://www.radiomarconi.com/marconi/obelisco/piazzale_guglielmo_marconi.jpg

serpentoffire

19-09-2007, 06:52 PM

http://www.romaviva.com/Piramide/piramide-cestia.jpg

serpentoffire

20-09-2007, 10:13 AM

http://www.generativedesign.com/tesi/133/campidoglio-altointro.jpg

serpentoffire

20-09-2007, 10:23 AM

This is the headquarter of Grand Orient d' Italy in Rome, near Gianicolo hill.

http://www.tesoridiroma.net/galleria/repubblica_romana/foto/vascello04.jpg

mariag

22-09-2007, 04:14 PM

http://www.jarnling.se/Vykort%20H%C3%A4lsning%20fr%C3%A5n%20%C3%96rebro%2 05-bildskort,%20Gustaf%20E%20Nilsson,%20postst%C3%A4m pel%201958.jpg
THE FENIX BIRD ON POSTCARDS FROM ÖREBRO

qasrose

22-09-2007, 05:26 PM

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/SSA50009.jpg

amadeus

30-09-2007, 10:02 PM

In case you didn't have a chance to read this:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10597

lennart

01-10-2007, 12:40 AM

tinmenace

01-10-2007, 02:32 AM

My Dutch is poor. What will it's purpose be? Apartments? Offices? Art?

Have you seen the Turning Torso in Malmö, Sweden?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/clouds/turningtorso.jpg
Credit - http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/turningtorso.htm

jimijams

01-10-2007, 02:39 AM

Thanks to everyone who continue to contribute to this thread, keep 'em coming..

jimi

montag

01-10-2007, 02:54 AM

Hello everybody! I,m new here!

They want to build this in the center of The Netherlands. It,s 262mtr high! What do you guys think?

http://www.leefbaarutrecht.nl/wp-content/bellevanzuylen.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3853/bvz2eu.png

http://www.bellevanzuylen.info/
http://www.bellevanzuylen.info/belle-van-zuylen-stand-van-zaken.php
G'day lennart, this reminds me of Jacobs ladder or a stairway to heaven..

"Jacob left Beersheba and set out for Haran. When he reached a certain place, he stopped for the night because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones there, he put it under his head and lay down to sleep. He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. There above it stood The Lord, and He said, "I Am The Lord, The God of your father Abraham and The God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying. Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring. I Am with you and will watch over you wherever you go, and I will bring you back to this land." (Genesis 28:10-15)

Welcome to the forum..:)

Montag

lennart

01-10-2007, 09:38 PM

Thank you all!

If you go here: http://www.bellevanzuylen.info/belle-van-zuylen-functie-overzicht.php
Then the red part, the bottom and the top wil contain 240 appartments
The purple part in the middle will be 40.000 m2 office space
The green and blue parts are for dinningrooms and publick spaces
The grey parts are for technical things and under the structure there is a car parking space.

They want to start with building somewhere in 2009 if everything goes according to the plan. However there are many people already saying that they don,t want this thing to be build!

And yesterday there was also an article in the paper that some minister was against it. However that could be part of the game/manipulation to make sure that the people who are really against it will think someone, high up, is already fighting against it.

Ohw and the name of the building is Belle van Zuylen. Belle van zuylen was a writter and componist born 1740 and died 1805. She is also knows as Isabelle de Charrière
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabelle_de_Charri%C3%A8re

So, anymore views on what this is someone?

tinmenace

01-10-2007, 11:52 PM

Interesting! She was quite a remarkable woman!

I have no idea what that building is supposed to represent. I'm not sure if it's beautiful or ugly. It is interesting looking though...

lennart

03-10-2007, 01:14 AM

Hello everybody! I,m new here!

They want to build this in the center of The Netherlands. It,s 262mtr high! What do you guys think?

http://www.leefbaarutrecht.nl/wp-content/bellevanzuylen.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3853/bvz2eu.png

http://www.bellevanzuylen.info/
http://www.bellevanzuylen.info/belle-van-zuylen-stand-van-zaken.php

I don,t know what to think of it....it looks cool but if it,s just some illuminati symbol..then well...then i don,t like it :-))

Belle van Zuylen aka Isabelle de Charrière

Isabelle de Charrière, (20 October 1740 - 27 December 1805) known as Belle van Zuylen in the Netherlands and Madame de Charrière elsewhere, is a Dutch-born writer of the Enlightenment who lived the latter half of her life in Switzerland. She is now best known for her letters although she also wrote novels, pamphlets and plays. She took a keen interest in the society and politics and her work around the time of the French Revolution is regarded as being of particular interest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabelle_de_Charri%C3%A8re

tinmenace

03-10-2007, 01:19 AM

I don,t know what to think of it....it looks cool but if it,s just some illuminati symbol..then well...then i don,t like it :-))

Belle van Zuylen aka Isabelle de Charrière

Isabelle de Charrière, (20 October 1740 - 27 December 1805) known as Belle van Zuylen in the Netherlands and Madame de Charrière elsewhere, is a Dutch-born writer of the Enlightenment who lived the latter half of her life in Switzerland. She is now best known for her letters although she also wrote novels, pamphlets and plays. She took a keen interest in the society and politics and her work around the time of the French Revolution is regarded as being of particular interest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabelle_de_Charri%C3%A8re

What I found interesting about her was that she learned to speak French while away from home, traveling. Then, when she returned to the Netherlands a year later, she had to relearn Dutch, and that French remained her preferred language.

I find that soooo interesting.

lennart

03-10-2007, 02:24 AM

That,s strange indeed! What do you think?

tinmenace

03-10-2007, 02:28 AM

That,s strange indeed! What do you think?

Resonance.

French was meant for her. :)

stormahawk

03-10-2007, 02:18 PM

http://www.ourfamilyadventure.com/road_trip/washington_dc_monument_1-thumb.jpg
http://www.light-of-truth.com/images/enter.jpg

National treasure and washington mountment
Illuminari control?

tinmenace

03-10-2007, 02:23 PM

I've never noticed it before, but that body of water looks like a trapezoid from that angle.

stormahawk

03-10-2007, 09:55 PM

Has anyone seen the movie "National Treasure"? That movie is FULL of Illuminati symbolism.

fresco

04-10-2007, 12:20 PM

us.capitol?

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/us.capitol/one.jpg

Does anyone know anything about this?

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/

tinmenace

04-10-2007, 12:37 PM

Do you know the name of the exhibit that it comes from?

fresco

04-10-2007, 12:42 PM

Do you know the name of the exhibit that it comes from?

It's from The United States Capitol Exhibit.

I've just found this page on that site.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/us.capitol/s1.html

First American Symbol Was Pre-Revolutionary in Origin Benjamin Franklin "Join or Die" Pennsylvania Gazette (Philadelphia), May 9, 1754 Newspaper Serial and Government Publications Division Library of Congress (1)

fresco

04-10-2007, 12:44 PM

fresco

04-10-2007, 12:48 PM

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/us.capitol/eleven.jpg

After Eugene du Simitiere [Design for the Great Seal of the United States,] 1776 Pencil on paper Thomas Jefferson Papers, Manuscript Division Library of Congress (11)

tinmenace

04-10-2007, 12:52 PM

Here's another interesting one :

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/us.capitol/two.jpg

Paul Revere "Unite or Die" Massachusetts Spy (Boston), July 7, 1774 Newspaper Serial and Government Publications Division Library of Congress (2)

Hmm, interesting. Paul Revere was a Freemason.

Benjamin Franklin was responsible for suggesting the country's first emblem -- a native rattlesnake...

Source (http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/us.capitol/s1.html)

Benjamin Franklin was a Freemason too.

Famous Freemasons (http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm)