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eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 10:58 AM
http://www.svf.uib.no/sfu/oestigaard/Bilder%20Gallery/ShashanKali.jpg
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 10:59 AM
Shashan Kali is the cemetery or cremation Kali, and this is another fearful manifestation of Kali. She lives only on cemeteries, and she has numerous followers who include ghosts and malignant spirits. Shashan Kali in general is one of the most almighty forms of Kali. There are two ways of making the Shashan Kali statue depending upon whether the devotees will follow the Tantric or the Vaishnava path of worship. The Tantric Shashan Kali rituals worship the violent and ferocious Kali whereas the Vaishnava Shashan Kali rituals worship the peaceful Kali. The Tantric Shashan Kali is another form of Kali called Chandalini, who is an uttermost dangerous and destructive form of Kali.
serpentoffire
24-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Kali is only another name for evil spirits. Multiple spirits can reside in one single body.
http://volker-doormann.org/kali08.jpg
These spirits are the residual souls of Nephilims
Nephilim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In the book of apocalypse there is a similar archetype with multiple heads:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1843/hydranw4.jpg
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 11:57 AM
http://deoxy.org/gaia/eyefood/kali2.jpg
Instructions for the Kali Yuga
from Hakim Bey
Those who ignore her or see her outside themselves risk destruction. Those who worship her as ishta-devata, or divine self, taste her Age of Iron as if it were gold, knowing the alchemy of her presence.
http://deoxy.org/gaia/eyefood/bok.jpghttp://deoxy.org/gaia/kaliyuga.htm
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 12:25 PM
The name Kali derives from the Sanskrit root word Kal meaning time. Nothing escapes from time. Her Tibetan Buddhism counterpart is named Kala, a male figure. Of the Hindu goddesses, Goddess Kali Ma is the most misunderstood. The Encyclopedia Britannica is very mistaken in this quote, "Major Hindu goddess whose iconography, cult, and mythology commonly associate her with death, sexuality, violence, and, paradoxically in some of her later historical appearances, motherly love."
Goddess Kali Ma - Liberator of Souls - Destroyer of Negativity
http://www.goddess.ws/images/kali-1.jpg The Goddess Kali Ma is the supreme feminine manifestation of compassion as she frees us from the prison of our own ego.
Discover the many other forms of the Goddess here. (http://www.goddess.ws/)
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 12:26 PM
http://www.goddess.ws/images/Green-Tara.jpg http://www.goddess.ws/images/Kwan-Yin.jpg http://www.goddess.ws/images/Isis.jpg http://www.goddess.ws/images/Mother-Mary.jpg http://www.goddess.ws/images/Lakshmi.jpg Green Tara Kwan Yin Isis Mother Mary Lakshmi Explore the many forms of the Infinite Goddess
::: GODDESS LIST (http://www.goddess.ws/#goddesslist) :::
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 12:33 PM
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Child Of Fire ("Isis, Astarte, Diana, Hekate, Demeter, Kali, Innana!")
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 12:51 PM
The swastika is an ancient symbol of many cultures and is noted particularly as important in Iran / Aryan. A 555 Hitler number / Washington Monument three-legged swastika political party runs Iraq and hanged Saddam. The Swastika in India is symbolic of Kali , the Hindu goddess of Death. more (http://www.dalsabzi.com/Wisdom_Scrip/swastika.htm) .
The Thugge cult, from which we get the word THUG used ritual murder in India to propitiate Kali, their death goddess. See depiction: more (http://www.kalimandir.org/libraryhome.asp?page=articles&item=13_sw_chid.xml).
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 01:08 PM
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serpentoffire
24-09-2007, 01:49 PM
http://deoxy.org/gaia/eyefood/bok.jpg
This picture represent exactly what I said about Nephilims.
Kali is son of a demon and a woman.
eternal_spirit
24-09-2007, 01:58 PM
This picture represent exactly what I said about Nephilims.
Kali is son of a demon and a woman.
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One of the highest goals/achievements
for certain kinds of Tantric/Tantra practitioners
is to have sex with spirits even with Goddesses/God Angel/demon......... to bring advanced souls into physical bodies.
serpentoffire
24-09-2007, 02:30 PM
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One of the highest goals/achievements
for certain kinds of Tantric/Tantra practitioners
is to have sex with spirits even with Goddesses/God Angel/demon......... to bring advanced souls into physical bodies.
This is called: POSSESSION
http://www.ilgrandecinema.it/critichebrevi/teoer02.jpg
kasalt
24-09-2007, 02:57 PM
Of the Hindu goddesses, Goddess Kali Ma is the most misunderstood. The Encyclopedia Britannica is very mistaken in this quote, "Major Hindu goddess whose iconography, cult, and mythology commonly associate her with death, sexuality, violence, and, paradoxically in some of her later historical appearances, motherly love."
It is partially accurate to say the Goddess Kali Ma is a goddess of death. However, She brings the death of the ego as the delusional self-centered view of reality. Nowhere in the sriptures is She seen killing anything but demons nor is She associated exclusively with the process of human dying like Yama the Hindu god of death. Both Goddess Kali Ma and Shiva are said to inhabit cremation grounds and devotees often go to these places to meditate. The purpose is not to glorify death but to overcome the I-am-the-body idea. The cremation grounds reinforce the idea that the body is a temporary. Kali and Shiva are said to dwell in these places because it is our attachment to the body that gives rise to the ego. Kali and Shiva give liberation by dissolving the illusion of the ego. Thus we are the ever-existing I AM and not the impermanent body. This is emphasized by the scene in the cremation grounds.
Out of all the Devi forms, Kali is the most compassionate because She provides moksha or liberation to Her children. She is the counterpart of Shiva. They are the destroyers of unreality. When the ego sees Mother Kali it trembles with fear because the ego sees in Her its own eventual demise. An individual who is attached to his/her ego will not be able to receive the vision of Mother Kali and She will appear in a fear invoking or "wrathful" form. A mature soul who engages in spiritual practice to remove the illusion of the ego sees Mother Kali as very sweet, affectionate, and overflowing with incomprehensible love for Her children.
Ma Kali wears a garland made of 52 skulls and a skirt made of dismembered arms because the ego comes out of identification with the body. In fact, we are beings of spirit and not flesh. So liberation can only prevail when our attachment to the body comes to an end. Therefore, the skirt and garland are trophies worn by Her to represent the liberation of Her children from attachment to the finite body. In two of Her hands, She holds a sword and a freshly severed head that is dripping blood. This represents a great battle in which she defeated the demon Raktabija. Her black (or sometimes dark blue) skin represents the womb of the unmanifest from which all of creation is born and into which all of creation will eventually return. Goddess Kali Ma is depicted as standing on a white skinned Shiva who is lying beneath Her. His white skin is in contrast to Her black or sometimes dark blue skin. He is showing a blissful detached look on His face. Shiva is pure formless awareness sat-chit-ananda (being-consciousness-bliss) while She represents "form" eternally sustained by the underpinning of pure awareness.
Through ignorance of the story behind Goddess Kali Ma it is easy to misinterpret Her symbolism. In the same way one could say that Christianity is a religion of destruction, death, and cannibalism in which the followers drink the eat the flesh of Jesus and drink his blood. Of course, we know this is not the correct way to understand the communion sacrament.
Associating sexuality to Mother Kali is not founded in the traditional understanding of Her. In the Hindu stories, there is nothing that associates Her with sexuality. It is just the opposite. Kali is one of the few Goddesses who is celibate and practicing renunciation!
The idea that She is the goddess of death, sex and violence is simply not true. When we study the life of the great saint Ramakrishna or the great poet saint Ramprasad (both famous Kali worshippers), or listen to traditional Hindu devotional songs to Goddess Kali Ma, there is no suggestion of this death-sex-violence idea. This can also be substantiated by going to any of the Hindu websites such as www.hindunet.com and reading about Her. Anyone sincerely interested in Mother Kali should read the book Kali: The Black Goddess of Dakshineswar, by Elizabeth Harding. In addition, there is a beautiful traditional Kali temple in Laguna Beach, California which may be visited on-line at www.kalimandir.org. Goddess Kali Ma is the goddess of liberation or enlightenment.
http://www.goddess-kali-ma.com/
kasalt
24-09-2007, 03:10 PM
I may as well post this here as well. Here are a few quotes from Swami Prabhupada's Srimad Bhagavatam to help you come to a correct understanding of what the goddess Kali is really all about:
"There is a popular picture of goddess Kali in which she wears a garland composed of the heads of the asuras [i.e., "demons"] and holds in her left hand a captured head and in her right hand a great khadga, or chopper, for killing asuras...Asuras try to pacify the goddess Kali, or Durga, by worshiping her in material opulence, but when the asuras become too intolerable, goddess Kali does not discriminate in killing them wholesale. Asuras do not know the secret of the energy of Lord Siva, and they prefer to worship goddess Kali or Durga or Lord Siva for material benefit. Due to their demoniac character, they are reluctant to surrender to Lord Krsna, as indicated by Bhagavad-gita (7.15)." - Srimad-Bhagavatam 4:24:18, http://harekrsna.com/sun/features/08-07/features758.htm
"The tamasic sastras give instructions for the sacrifice of an animal like a goat or buffalo before the goddess Kali, but there is no mention of killing a man...Even at this time there are many sacrifices being conducted without reference to the Vedic scriptures. For instance, in Calcutta recently a slaughterhouse was being advertised as a temple of the goddess Kali. Meat-eaters foolishly purchase meat from such shops, thinking it different from ordinary meat and taking it to be the prasada of goddess Kali. The sacrifice of a goat or a similar animal before the goddess Kali is mentioned in sastras just to keep people from eating slaughterhouse meat and becoming responsible for the killing of animals. The conditioned soul has a natural tendency toward..meat-eating; consequently the sastras grant them some concessions. Actually the sastras aim at putting an end to these abominable activities, but they impart some regulative principles so that gradually meat-eaters...will be rectified." - Srimad Bhagavatam 5.9.15, http://vedabase.net/sb/5/9/15/en
"According to the Vedic injunctions, only an aggressor can be killed...killing is not sanctioned in the sastras for other purposes. The killing of animals in sacrifice to the demigods, who are expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is sanctioned for those who eat meat. This is a kind of restriction for meat-eating. In other words, the slaughter of animals is also restricted by certain rules and regulations in the Vedas... Only thieves and rogues in the modes of passion and ignorance and maddened by material opulence offer a man in sacrifice before the goddess Kali. This is not sanctioned by the Vedic instructions. Presently there are many hundreds and thousands of slaughterhouses throughout the world that are maintained by a puffed-up population mad for material opulence. Such activities are never supported by the Bhāgavata school." - Srimad Bhagavatam 5.9.17, http://vedabase.net/sb/5/9/17/en
spacegurl
24-09-2007, 03:30 PM
Excellent thread, but I have a question. More like an observation. Maybe you might not agree. It seems that the Indo-European versions of Kali is Hel and Hecate. This was pointed out in "Northern Goddess" by Monica Sjoo (now deceased) and other online articles. Kali is linked to Hel and Hecate because the migration of these related peoples travelled across the world in neolithic times, going from India to Europe and they took their gods and wisdom with them. The message is the same.
eternal_spirit
27-09-2007, 12:36 AM
Excellent thread, but I have a question. More like an observation. Maybe you might not agree. It seems that the Indo-European versions of Kali is Hel and Hecate. This was pointed out in "Northern Goddess" by Monica Sjoo (now deceased) and other online articles. Kali is linked to Hel and Hecate because the migration of these related peoples travelled across the world in neolithic times, going from India to Europe and they took their gods and wisdom with them. The message is the same.
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Yes could be same Goddess/demon different names.... negative female energy. Isn't isis and hecate two different aspects of moon energy good bad?